These Guys Made FFXIV Even Harder
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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To go through those fights again as if they were current content. The dream. Square, give all old raids and trials the unreal treatment and put them on a weekly rotation!
I want blind Day 1 Puppets Bunker again ...
You monster!
Count me in.
big want
@@Nazuikogod... i'd love to do that again.... it was my first day 1 alliance raid, and it was fun and brutal...
I came out with like 5-10% of my gear durability left. Which is the reason i leveled my crafters so i can repair whenever...
It was honestly a 10/10 experience with everyone being blind
Look mom I'm on TV!
Min ilvl may not be perfect, but it is a pretty good approximation for anyone looking to experience the fights the way they were, at least mechanically.
At the time of recording my group and I found the fights to be just the right amount of challenging, albeit a bit frustrating at times... That said, Downscaling has intrigued me for some time now, and I've been trying to get the rest onboard :p
Thank you for the showcase
Are you guys joining the world first run? If so, I’m rooting for you guys!!
Rinon has afaik participated in each of the ultimate world firsts, and i think was either on one who one, or was very close at least.
My static ran through all of Eden with this sheet these past few weeks for FRU prep. Outside of E12S (which felt a tiny bit overtuned in terms of damage intake, as noted on the sheet), these fights really do feel incredibly similar to how they did in early weeks of those tiers in Shadowbringers. It's the definitive way to experience old fights and I really wish SE could / would implement something like this natively.
6:10 I do agree to some extent but they literally did the exact same thing in Honey B Lovely this raid tier with the first line/get in > spread/stack where it was random which pattern pair it'd be and which went first lol
That actually sounds like fun it’s crazy the hoops we have to go through to get some challenge out of the game. SE needs a diff formula
Been doing this a lot recently in preparation for FRU and its pretty gold. Nice to have lvl 100 kit too.
ran all the core fights with the static over the past month using this sheet. It's been a blast.
Yeah we used that spreadsheet for eden savage too! I actually started in shb so I never had the chance to try em, but holy fuck having your 100 toolkit getting your teeth kicked in by shiva is mad fun. I'm just cranky that as a tank?? e8s specifically - I use my stun. I ACTUALLY USE MY STUN. I USE A ROLE ABILITY BESIDES REP AND RAMPART. I should not be as excited about that as I was but BRUH IT WAS COOL! Cuz how often do I get to kick something in the face and stun it??? And that's only a TINY portion of the fight as a whole but it still made me go WOAH cuz 99% of role abilities just aren't used in raids which is INSANE to me. Anywayyyyy LMAO.
We did a different lights rampant cuz we immediately got hit with IM NOT DOING FUCKING ILYA STRAT from the one guy who did it while current LMAO. It was just N/S rotated clockwise after first proteans to E/W, so to start, orb players would have theirs BEHIND them and would bait first protean, then nyoom through middle and play chicken with balls to the face and pop orbs. Second towers bait second proteans and soak ect.
I always remember, for E2S, it was Clocks, or Bacon.
Big fan of this sheet. I love all the different Awk emotes. I do hope that one day the dev team will implement a feature that allows us to do things like this natively, rather than having to math everything out with gear.
Every tier I try to convince my static to do this. And every tier I fail. Surely, it'll work after the next tier
Same lmao (i just want an excuse to do titan)
Make a new static
They surely made the game harder
they do be making the game harder
Thanks for sharing! It's not content I enjoy from your channel, but I'm super looking forward to your summary of FRU!!! Your DSR one was spectacular.
Big fan of KT, Theo and Noober
actual answer to who madeen is if you care, it's one of the summons from ffix
Oooh so dat why i nvr heard of it XP
I really want to give this a go some time. I've done all of Omega savage synced and MINE, and while it was still a lot of fun- and definitely still challenging in terms of mitigation and healing- the DPS checks were a complete joke.
I do love trying to make the content hit as hard right in your gut as it was on content. I have a soft spot especially for your first example (E2S) as Eden's Gate was my first raid tier.
But aren't we exchanging "the experience" for the inaccuracies of stat syncing down with the comfort of the level 100 kit? You'd have access to mits (like Expedience) and other skills that would tune it in favor of the player, just like padding that extra substats that syncing down, no? Same with the level difference having the boss miss some of its autos on the tanks from time to time.
Not trying to invalidate the fun at all. Just wanted to point out the necessary nuance as both an enjoyer of the min ilvl checkbox and "unsync but use appropriate gear" method that we are exchanging certain aspects and inaccuracies for a smoother experience but inevitably fall short of the holy grail of the on content experience that is inherently unachiveable.
I'm not sure if it's just me misunderstanding the point made in the intro, but I don't understand criticizing the checkbox in game option being innacurate to the experience and going in with a level 100 kit that gives you more "power" on jobs that existed at the time with new skills.
TL;DR from the discussion and reply thread below:
"There's fun to be had here. And I don't think it's intentional... But there's some nuance here that need to be made clear here instead of just saying 'it's a more accurate experience' when there's small things at level 100 that fundamentally change the entire experience than just tuning your stats lower by stripping item slots to nothing to compensate."
Those extra mits and skills are taken into account for the recommended gear I believe. The only real difference are the autos really but tbh, in most fights, those arent that big a deal anyway.
Also you gotta remember that skills were similarly removed from what there was at release. And miniumum item level setting does not take into account potency inflation as well as capped substats, both of which result in higher damage than on release. Especially for older tiers, the DPS checks are just absolute jokes. Having done both, this method is far more representative *and* gives you access to a complete kit.
@@florac1995Then wouldn't ticking the box of using the spreadsheet AND ticking min ilvl give you the synced kit even with the adjusted buffed potencies? Why does the "complete kit" have to come into it?
What I mean is if we're trying to criticize the authenticity of minimum item level as a mode, why must we add the caveat of being able to use a complete kit of 100 just because we prefer how the classes work at maximum level?
Only wanted to point out that it feels a little silly to me. It would have felt better on the intro of "man check out this way of doing a fight like an unreal" instead of "man min ilvl is so inaccurate" while also introducing further inaccuracy.
It is a fact that the holy grail of how it was on release is unattainable from the simple fact that jobs got adjusted and job mechanics as well (like being able to use Confetior at the start of your req phase for PLD... Heck it's just completely different now with it having a burst phase instead of dot management and sustained damage)... But saying in the intro with the vibe of "we're trying to get close to that" while introducing job changes of... Reprisal being 15 seconds... Mits for phys ranged being 90s instead of 120s... Healers having extra mits... That can't be taken into account for just from reducing your item level. Those are game changing skills that have utility far beyond the content was designed for and is arguably a bigger gain than making yourself weaker for the DPS check could ever hope to do.
Another thing to point out: Not to mention LB doesn't get passively generated from the level difference.
There's fun to be had here. And I don't think it's intentional... But there's some nuance here that need to be made clear here instead of just saying 'it's a more accurate experience' when there's small things at level 100 that fundamentally change the entire experience than just tuning your stats lower by stripping item slots to nothing to compensate.
That said, I AM enjoying your perspective on this as a fellow old content enjoyer.
Yeah, I usually tell my FC to just take off pants and gloves or something.
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That spreadsheet is really fun but it doesn’t account for stats that actually hurt certain jobs. Such as some of the gear being skill speed. But my FRU group has been doing the eden raids and it’s been pretty fun.
in prog people used crafted gear which stats are all over the place too
Your ability to deal with scuffed gcd tiering is a good thing to test. Someone who complains about that probably isn't primarily prog oriented
@@AoyagiMeiidk monk nowadays with cbu3 sks choices make it painful to play.
"Harder" implies the game is... you know what, forget it lol.
I wish this wasnt just a streamer/content creator thing
...It isn't.
this isn't exclusive to content creators, my group has been playing together for 18 months now, started from turn 1 Coil and currently progging Hello, World 2 in o12s, all fights done on MINE. After clearing o12s one guy with part ways with us since he intends to play on Free Trial forever, so we plan to find a replacement for him and then continue with Eden savage MINE.
A good number of statics aiming to do FRU are doing this.
@@toilachon Lol my static did the same as you guys and was super fun we did,coils,alex,omega then we did UWU then eden we are on E12 currently ,good luck to you guys when you get to Shiva ,these guys made it look easy but its very unforgiving.