1 bed of chaos 2 bed of chaos 3 bed of chaos 4 bed of chaos 5 bed of chaos 6 bed of chaos 7 bed of chaos 8 bed of chaos 9 bed of chaos 10 the two dogs that are with capra demon
I do hate the ancient dragon aswell but I love its design because it reminds me of all the good dragons and it also gave me a fright when my friend attacked the dragon because he thought it would give him the giant soul without knowing it was a boss walst my least favorite is prowling magus who is shit in every way especially since I killed it without being bothered to look at the bottom of the screen and figured out in demodcracys vid that it was a boss
You want it know what sucks? Yesterday i was speedrunning/no death the dlc, and one hit away from killing the player church spear, then he quit, which summoned HALFLIGHT, AT ALMOST FULL HP. He killed me and I screamed SO LOUD. So yes, if the spear quits, they should just give you the win at that point
It doesn't even suck. It's a fair dodge practice in the early game, and it's esthetically beautiful. Also, he whines about Bed Of Chaos but he does it without a bow... no wonder. That's like if a magic caster complained about a boss resistant to magic, adapt! I also thought that spear of the church was ok. DS2 has LITERALLY a dozen of worse bosses. I also think that the firesage demon is the less worst of the 4 Izalith bosses. Apart from being a reskin, he's not that bad. Anyway, I disagree 100% with his list
TheAskald I’m very new to Ds so I may not be the best person to talk to about this, but my first reaction after I beat moonlight butterfly was “well that sucked”. Like I said I’m still really new to Ds1 but so far it’s been my least favorite boss.
If Ancient Wyvern didn't have a health bar on screen/fog door I think people would just consider it a cool segment of the game rather than a bad boss. Because it IS cool, just not when you analyze it as a boss fight. I would put gank squad and old iron king on this list. Dreadful fights.
Yes Very I’ve only died to OIK once in my 8+ runs of Souls 2, and it was my very first attempt on my very first playthrough. Only reason I died was cuz I had zero idea about the lava hole in the back. Fuck that boss. It’s easily in my top 5 worst in the series. What makes it worse is that he looks so cool, but sucks so much ass. Whatta tease Still better than the Royal Shat Authority , Bed of Bullshit and Capra Semen
Ed Eranged When I played dark souls remastered for the first time there was a barrel with a message next to it that said "here" I rolled into it having no idea what was gonna pop out...this fucking turtle ran out and I was like "yea that's important" so I spent like 3 min running around trying to hit it.
No, Bed of Chaos is the worst. I was doing a randomizer run and had to decide "do I want to do Catacombs -without a light-, or Bed of Chaos?" I chose Catacombs.
One of the few bad things about the Arkham series: those bad boss fights that's just waves of assholes to beat while the actual boss throws bullshit at you.
i think most of those games are fine because the gameplay is shrouded in being outnumbered but being able to takedown tons of enemies, souls games, in my view, are at their peak in 1 on 1 combat that acts more like a timing dance than a fight
That's right, looking at you, Arkham Asylum. Slink away, you coward. Ya know you can't take me on alone. Seriously, even fighting two titans at once is not enough to make it thrilling, and it's especially not viable for Joker to turn into a demonic beefcake only for him to let his minions still do the fighting for him.
Have you ever played games with fixed camera? XD That's even worse, but good point! :D I personly hate in the whole serie that, almost all of the enemies hit through the wall, meanwhile your weapon stucks into nothing a lot of time :/
The bed of chaos in dark souls remastered isnt the worst boss in the souls series Bed of chaos in dark souls 1 is the worst boss in the souls series because it looks slightly worse..?
It could be worse. Not saying Bed of Chaos is a good boss, but at least it takes no real time or effort to beat it. It's the most laughably easy boss in all of Dark Souls 1. And that's sad, because Pinwheel is among those bosses.
just bored back when you bought the original dark souls, it probably cost a similar price. what, you bought the remaster eventhough you already own the original dark souls and (almost) nothing of significance changed? thats on you, bud.
Family: Is he going to be alright? What’s wrong with him? Doctor: He thinks the Bed of Chaos is a good boss. Family: *Gasp* Doctor: I’m sorry, but he’s too far gone. We’re going to have to put him down before his mind goes any further. Family: *Starts crying* We understand.
gurrl Ya, except it’s not fun at all to figure it out because A, the boss and the arena suck donkey dong, and B, the run from the bonfire back to BoC is fuckin BOOOOOORING, no matter which one you start from. No, it’s not a good boss. I’m jealous that you think it is, but it’s not.
The Bed of Chaos is so awful. I refuse to fight it without doing the quit and reload exploit. Also noticed that there are no Bloodborne bosses on your list. God damn that game is so incredible.
I wish we had been able to fight the Witch of Izilith in the flesh instead of the stupid bed of chaos. It could have just been a cool background design for a real boss fight against said lordess we were expecting to fight.
I just played the Ringed City for the first time a week ago, and I thought, Hey I am a Sunlight Warrior, lets put my Sign down to help people like Solaire taught me, so I put my Sign down in the Church, only when I was summoned expecting Jolly Co-Operation, I was the Boss, and I was against Three people. So I died before my confusiton wore off.
Tyler Ojala me too because I didn’t have internet on my PlayStation 3, which means I never got a single patch for the game... so that means there was no insta killing him by running at the fog wall, that and I was 11 and really bad lmao
Maximus speak for yourself. Motherfucking Manus and Artorias combined didn't take me as much time or tries as the tree. I have the worst luck with rng ever. It took me like 25 tries for that bullshit boss in ds3 in o and s boss room (I can't remember his name. Edit: just remembered his name. Aldrich) while 'harder' bosses like pontiff sulhyvayn took me three tries and as ashamed and proud as I am to say, I killed ancient wyvern with a sword (the hollowslayer greatsword +2 and a regular Knight shield) without the one hit kill. Took me about 8 tries
I had MUCH more problems with Manus and Atorias (probaply because my old PC and Framerate was so bad that i had in Blightown at max 5 FPS) I have beatten the tree with a maximum of 5 tries , but i suck on the Gargoiles from Darksouls one I tried to beat him at least 3 times with Solaire and didnt beat them (To my excuse it was my first DS and still on the old Pc) I died so often that i didnt even had anymore humanity. Then i challenged the Buterfluy and oh boy... after that i had beaten the gargoiles in my first try (after moonlight butterfly). And I dont would be ashamed about the wyvern cause if I didnt knew about the fight i would have done the same... probaply. And I deaply respect youre patience that you have killed him with your build, I have tried to beat him like that too and than I said after minimal damage output "Fuck it im doin it the easy way. (I had The Greatsword +10 and Grass Crest Shield +10)
Same, it's not an amazing fight, everybody agrees, but the mechanics aren't bad, the atmosphere is quite good, the challenge ok, the idea of,a pvp fight is poorly used but it doesn't deserve to be hated like that.
Different strokes, I personally hated it. To be fair; I don't like pvp, but even if I did, I'd just play pvp. This just seems lazy. And I completely agree that Midir should've been required and this should've be optional. That said, I don't think that's the actual reason, after all he likes the Old Monk fight.
i hate how he didn't mention when a meta hp caster invades as the spear of the church. I usually run around with the church covenant on my int caster, and absolutely FUCK whoever i get due to the increased poise you get as a boss, 1 shot an estus chugger with soul stream, the truest spear of the church imo.
Lol it's not a boss anymore than the dragon on the high wall of lothric in ds3 is is a boss. You literally dash past is to get a real boss. I don't care if from Software considers it a boss. I refuse.
*theDeModcracy:* #6 Dragon God - "The idea of incorporating a stealth fight in a Souls game... makes absolutely no sense in a game that is centered around face to face combat" *From Software in 2019:* Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
Ken Riven You were actually correct though. You can make 2 deathblows against True Corrupted Monk by hiding on the tree branches. Only found that out after beating her again after writing my comment. *Congratulations!*
The lore of bed of chaos makes it even worse, "hey you remember those awesome guys who got the original souls in the opening screen? Well one of them turned into a little bug.."
Yeah it's weird. Though in their own ways all the lord soul bosses suck ass. Nito is so damn easy to cheese, Bed of Chaos is well Bad of Chaos, 4 kings is pretty lazy and just a dps race and Seith is just smash crystal then hug the booty and never get hit. Nito is maybe the best of the four.
The witch is the worm you hit to finish the boss, not the tree. Bed of Chaos' lore is one of the more complex and open in the series. It kind of defines everything related to chaos and demons. Go back to Ivory Crown DLC in DS2 SotFS and think again :)
@@edwardgordon7839 No it didn't, DSFix was just that - a fan-made patch. It only made the game "bearable" on PC. Although I agree that the price of the Remaster is way too high for something that is essentially a patch too.
I don't know why so many people had such problems with blighttown - its an annoying area for sure but I just took it slow and don't remember being stuck there for an excessive amount of time, certainly not anywhere near as long as the Arno Londor archers
A friend and I went through the Archwyvern fight by taking our time with the enemies. Suddenly the boss died on its own by falling off of the arena to get to us.
I feel like this was the discussion at the office for the ancient dragon. "Hey boss, i have a great idea for a boss" "Whats that john?" "Well, do you remember the moonlight butterfly?" "Yeah" "And how it kind of just have the finger to melee builds" "Yeah" "Well lets do it again but have the boss have higher durability than a tiger tank and have it do so much fire damage that you'd have to have the fire resistance of yhorm to survive." "Yeah lets do tha... who the hell is yhorm?" "I dunno"
Ancient dragon is almost as bad as that horrendous final fantasy 12 super boss dragon with about a billion hitpoints - I don't think it took anyone 5+ hours to beat though
I actually find Halflights PvE version somewhat enjoyable and I think it shouldn’t be beat down so much for the main reason that unless you’re speedrunning, waiting for Argo to finish speaking isn’t a problem, also Halflights fight had an interesting unique feature added in regards to the Spears of the Church covenant where for 500x your SL in souls you can do the fight again, thus presenting an easier and more interesting way for offline people (in my opinion) to farm the covenant rewards
Walamonga 1313 I find grave tender one of the hardest just because of how he can turtle against the sellswords which I use for speed runs and normal games
I personally use a faith build, so being the spear of the church is both advantageous and entertaining for a good pvp fight. More fun with host having summons with him/her.
No Prowling Magus and Congregation? All bosses from list had at least minimum efford put in creating them, where PMaC are just bunch of mobs thrown together. It's like putting fogwall in this room with Channeler and bunch of red hollows before gargoyles in DS1 and calling it a boss!
Top 5 laziest boss designs 5 - Blue Smelter Demon (at least they changed the attack timings) 4 - Gank squad (Somehow its still a fun fight) 3 - Twin Dragon Riders (there isn't even a ledge for them to fall off) 2 - Prowling Magus and Congregation (at least there's some variety in enemies) 1 - Royal Rat Vanguard (literally just a room full of rats & no context whatsoever) Hang on a minute, these are all from DS2
Brajan Markowski will never know how that doesn't top every single worst bosses list ever. At least bed of chaos and every other boss on this list have special effort put in to create them.
Personally think you're ranking halflight way too low, I mean sure the fight's got flaws and its quality is highly dependent on if you're matched up with a good player, and yes the pve version sucks, however this fight wasn't really designed to be played in pve. There are far worse bosses that deserve a spot on this list, such as prowling magus and congregation, or Jabba the hutt (both of which take even less time to kill than a bad halflight player). In addition there are some things to tip this in the boss' favor at least somewhat, the invading player gets a notable defensive buff and is capable of summoning those lightning spears the same way the PVE version can. The painting guardian can almost fully heal them and if the player has a brain, they will protect that painting guardian throughout the fight, the player is also fully capable of casting their own healing miracles (including AOE heals that affect the guardian) or using ranged spells during any reprieve the painting guardian gives them. All of this makes it so that the fight becomes less of a pushover against a competent player, but instead becomes one where the boss is at a slight disadvantage (at least 1v1) and needs to make the best use of their resources to win. It can also be very easy to punish estus healing in PVP, especially with another enemy being aggressive toward the player, so that becomes less of a factor, depending on who you get matched with. The challenge of this fight is primarily on the end of the player who is invading, with the idea being that if they beat Midir to access this covenant, that they've proven they have the skill to handle that challenge. It doesn't work that way since a lot of them are terrible, but it's a solid idea at least. Honestly to me it was refreshing to see the old monk concept resurrected and felt that there was actually quite a bit more in the invading players' favor than there was for the old monk. Even in the case of multiple players this is taken into account with the soulmasses and lightning spears becoming usable more often. You can actually find quite a few examples of players doing really cool things with this fight.
What I see as a common theme is that speedrunners all hate Half light (i saw ppl calling him Spear of cancer, complete BS etc) as complete piece of trash so maybe that's playing some bias on him since he also speedruns DS3.
1. He didn't like to play PvP 2. He is a dark souls speedrunner which every single DS3 players all hate on Halflight since the rng for you can either get a npc to beat easily or a player which is depends on player skill will either took longer or faster. Halflight isn't terrible but i also hate him because i'm also DS3 speedrunner,nowadays it is hard to find pvp in Halflight but 2 years ago when the dlc still fresh,it was very annoying to speedrun it
While I agree these are some of the worst fights the red dragon isn't a boss Also in my opinion either royal rat vanguard ,prowling magus/congregation,lud+zallen or old iron king would be here instead of a killable trap/large enemy
Yeah screw those lighting horses they come out of nowhere. The soul weapon is one of the best though, great moveset, great scaling, and could be buffed.
You're perfectly accurate with the Bed of Chaos being the worst. You KNOW something is bad when even the developers APOLOGIZE for it. I think somewhere in this list, I'd put Lud and Zallen, cause the whole trip to them is awful, and it's a reskin of Aava, who wasn't an easy boss itself. And there's two of them and even with phantoms, they change their targets so often and so quickly that one minute you're racing after even ONE of them.....the next, both of them have decided to gang up on you and kill you cause your stamina couldn't withstand both of them pressuring you. The only thanks I feel for doing it is that I get the Loyce Greatsword, which is one of my favorites for being a solid greatsword for a Dex build and also a beautiful weapon in an aesthetic sense.
@@enjoyer2227 You need to change up your playstyle a lot. Thats why I like it. Its a bitch to get to but I enjoy the fight more than Aava. Initially its just like Aava, you know what to do. Then the second jumps in at 33% its a rush to kill the right cat. It goes from simple to frantic. Then back to simple until it buffs and youre left with two options, avoid it for a while and let it heal until the buff wears off OR attack the cat and prevent it from healing but youre at risk from much higher damage attacks. Then you can finish it off. Plus their ice armor breaks weapon durability quickly so its best to have two weapons, making the playstyle change up even more. I un ironically, genuinely think its a good fight. Way better than the likes of DS2's Gargoyles, or Throne Watcher/Defender.
I will say Capra Demon, is right at the begginin of the game, it takes years to make your way back, the arena and the dogs are just artificial dificulty to compensate for the poor boss design.
I agree for the most part, though I'd say the arena is what makes the fight boring and easy. Dodge the 3 attacks, immediately hit the stairs, kill the dogs as they chase you up the stairs, and then plunging attack on capra, climb the stairs, repeat. You either die in the first 3 seconds, or you win without any difficulty.
So that mean that they make a poor boss with a poor arena and poor strategy, that only shows that the devs just make a cheap fight to increase the dificulty, like the bonfires in new londo.
The lack of bonfires in New Londo is actually a positive, if you think about it. It's available right from the start, and it'd be fairly easy to soft-lock your game by running out of Transient Curses after resting at a hypothetical bonfire in New Londo. The lack of bonfires there is likely just a tough decision that had to be made, to prevent people from being unable to play the game anymore due to a lack of forethought before taking advantage of the game's "safe" havens.
@@peterclairwidmer1156 We were discussing the hypothetical scenario of a bonfire somewhere in New Londo though. Which, in that hypothetical scenario, if the bonfire is too deep, and you go to it directly after escaping the asylum... a low level, unexperienced player could easily find themselves in a situation that they simply cannot progress from, or go back. I'd say it's a soft lock, at that point. Not a hard lock, there are definitely ways out. A bonfire that can lead to a situation like that is just unfair though... Dark Souls is many things, but never unfair.
I came back to Dark Souls 3 yesterday to mess around a bit and got summoned for the Halflight fight (Didn't know I had the covenant equipped) and I have to say it was actually really fun. It might not be flawlessly designed but having it near the top of the worst boss list over Capra Demon, Pinwheel, Rat Vanguard, Covetous Demon, Twin Dragon Rider, Prowling Magus, Curse-Rotted Greatwood and many more just feels weird to me but whatever, it's your list, not mine.
I find that pinwheel is fine boss, if you use shortcuts and run for him earliest in the run. He is made weak so you could kill him for right of kindling from the start
respect the boys bruh Jokes apart, I admit it was very satisfying to get rid of those bastards though I guess finishing that DLC is a satisfaction itself lol
Oh fuck those guys. DS2 gets crap for being easy, but holy shit the DLCs have hard bosses. Fucking gank squad. Fucking fire samurai guy with the super long run up. Fucking -Fume Knight-. >.>
Some of these bosses could be considered good in other games. Curse rotted great wood could be good if it was in a Zelda game BOC could be considered good in a Mario game. Ancient wyvern could be considered good if it was in shadow of the colossus.
Bed of Chaos could be good in a game where platforming is a major feature, and the controls are optimized as such. Dark Souls controls are really bad for platforming.
For me, I'd swap out the Moonlight Butterfly with either Aava or Twin Dragonriders. Aava has some of the worst hitboxes in the entire series, while the Twin Dragonriders are a shining example of how lazy From can get at times.
It's happened in all 3 DS whether the creators got lazy with a boss or just re-skinned a few of them: DS1: Asylum Demon, Stray Demon, Demon Firesage for re-skin. I'd probably put Pinwheel, Moonlight Butterfly and Gaping Dragon as lazy bosses...lazy to me meaning there was so much more potential for them to be more difficult DS2: Both Smelter Demons and Belfry Gargoyles for re-skin. Laziest bosses for me would be Prowling Magus and Congregation plus both Royal Rat fights and Twin Dragonriders...hell all the Dragonriders DS3: Not really any re-skins that I can see...feel free to tell me if there is. Laziest bosses are definitely The Ancient Wyvern and Deacons of the Deep.
DS_Soundwave You could argue Champion Gundyr is a reskin, but that fight changes so substantially that I don't count it. For me, lazy is more just that there was a stunning lack of creativity. Take that Aava fight for example, it's like they spent no time at all thinking about "how can we distinguish this fight from the other large wolf-type enemy fights in the series?" Seriously, Aava is so generic, I can't even.
Well lore-wise Champion and Iudex are the same person so it doesn't bother me as much...also I forgot to mention Aava and the 2 in the Frigid Outskirts...let's take Aava, shrink her down a little and put 2 of them out there...creative..
Desphinx aava is nothing compared to Lud ans Zallen they are just pure Shit and whats more fun if they make the Choice to attack you at the Same time and there hitboxes suck too
My List from Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Sekiro: 10) Moonlight Butterfly Boring and easy boss and is just incredibly hard to actually hit. 9) Witch of Hemwick Took ages to find out how to actually kill this thing. Didn't release there was a little goblin witch thing that I had to kill. Easy fight when you know what to do but took ages for me to figure it out. 8) Headless Was always doing no damage until i figured out you had to use divine confetti. Not to mention the stupid Terror buildup mechanic which makes this boss fight stupid and tedious. You also need to fight it 5 times throughout the game which makes it worse. 7) Halflight, Spear of the Church (PvP) Due to lag, this boss was genuinely impossible. Had to turn off internet to fight offline boss because everytime I versed a player they would hit from like 10m away except they weren't attacking or moving at all. I would just die or they would teleport behind me and do a backstab. 6) Defiled Watchdog of the Old Lords Took too long to kill and has broken hitboxes. Love hard bosses but this boss pissed me off. 5) Defiled Amygdala I spent so long on this boss it became more of a frustration than challenging enjoyment. 4) Shichimen Warrior Hate this boss because it took me a long time to figure out how to do sufficient damage that you wouldn't eventually die from Terror. 3) Crystal Sage For some reason took so long to kill. Always got killed in phase 2 after an endless barrage of magic shit getting shot at you. 2) Ancient Dragon Hitboxes are broken and such a stupid, tedious fight. 1) Bed of Chaos Hard for the wrong reasons and probably one of the most boring, stupidly hard and tedious bosses in a game ever. Mainly just me struggling to figure out how to kill them but as a result became incredibly tedious and a shitty experience.
Forget adding a Vamos bonfire, the real addition we needed was one right in front of the Bed of Chaos fog wall! I'm not a fan of the fight, but it would be a lot less excruciating if the run up wasn't so goddamn long... Anyways, great list as always DeMod! My picks for worst boss from each game: Dragon God Bed of Chaos Lud and Zallen Witches of Hemwick Champion's Gravetender and Gravetender Wolf
Micolash and Laurence are worse than the witches. Both are unfair and unfun. Micolash fight keeps on edge the most. Because if you slip up to the stupid call beyond you die and have to redo the hole first phase. Definitely the longest boss fight in the series. Witches are not a good fight. But I don't dread the witches like I dread micolash
At east the witches can be trivialized by spending your insight down to 0 after you first discover them. For worst, it still has to be Micolash, who I'm surprised didn't make the list. He runs around like a pansy, can only be cornered by pushing him into exactly the right section which can very easily be missed due to the fog and confusing layout of the arena, and then once you've cornered him, he can decide he's going to 1-shot you with A Call Beyond which can be unavoidable depending on his positioning. Then he guarantees his own disappearance at half health, forcing you to trek up some stairs past enemies that can inflict fast poison (though they are pretty bad at it), and into an even MORE confusing series of hallways and stairs that utilize teleporting, forces you to drop to push him into the right area which means you are guaranteed to lose health, and then he can decide to 1-shot you here if he failed to last time. AND the entire time he fights you his little marionettes are either following you around the hallways, constantly respawning, and not dropping any souls, OR they're spawned in the trap room where he brings them to life before you even have a chance to react. Lastly, if he does manage to kill you after you trapped him a second time, you have to start the entire bullshit process over from square 1. Also he talks the ENTIRE GODDAMN TIME I'LL GRANT YOU EYES ON THE BOTTOM OF MY BOOT YOU CAGEFACE. His only saving grace is that once he is cornered, you can stunlock him really easily. At least that part is satisfying when it works out.
Lud and Zallen was a gank,optional and unnecesary hard to reach, but cmon you have the covetous demon, prowling magus, the "bossfight" that consist on running from rats and find one with diferent hairstyle and skelly lords. I think you just remember L&Z more and the other ones are easy to forget
There's a tell for the fire breath on ancient dragon. He'll make a large movement before actually flying up. As long as u move to the furthest part of the arena before he starts flying you'll avoid this move every time.
I actually like both versions of Halflight the PvP version is challenging for the invader which makes it great for me and the pve version is a weird fight which feels kind of out of place imo but still has some nice mechanics the soulmass he has and the light spears are challenging to overcome but the arena is well designed to hide from them and the soundtrack is one of the best in the entire series completly agree with the other 9 though
It looks like a fun change from the normal bosses. It also kind of NEEDS to be slanted towards the challenging player, because it would be controller throwingly hard if you didn't get some advantage.
I, too, remember how the Old Monk summoned 2 AI allies, could spawn lightning spears from the ground and heal himself through his AI allies. Wait what?
I haven't gotten that far in Dark Souls Remastered, but I H A T E D the Capra Demon. The arena's way too small and those dogs flinch you so the demon itself can whale on you.
the capra demon is really bad, I agree. although if you have knight's armor or elite knight's armor you can poise through the dogs and kill them, then focus down the capra demon. once you kill the dogs quickly take off your armor so you're fast rolling, and the capra demon should be pretty easy after that.
So.... Demon Souls: 2 Dark Souls: 3 Dark Souls II: 3 Bloodborne: 0 Dark Souls III: 2 Vs. best bosses Demon Souls: 0 Dark Souls: 2 Dark Souls II: 0 Bloodborne: 3 Dark Souls III: 5 Sounds about right.
Halflight is one of my favorite bosses in the franchise. I mean in the final dlc of the final game Miyazaki let's you literally become a Dark Souls boss. That's dope. I wish healer boy wasn't there, but I truly love that fight.
Rotten is a shitty, boring fight with a underwhelming gimmick. Paarl either turns into "pray you can rush him early" or "absolutely demolish him later on" boss, no inbetween.
I love how everyone messes up the demon fire sages lore, like its on the weapon you get for killing him, like he isn’t a pyromancer he is the last caster of fire sorcery, which is a lot cooler, still a shitty boss though.
i think halflight is fine. it is a forgetable boss for sure but it is not as offensifly bad as gretwood, capra demon, gank squad dark souls 2, lud and zalen, witches of hemwick, Twin Dragonrider and prowling magus and congragetion.
I thought Capra Demon was a good boss. With the dogs in a confined area, it's intimidating and a dangerous melee threat, causing frustration for many new players. People feel good after taking him down
PvP Spears does not belong on this list. Being the boss is too much fun and that should be taken into account the experiences as the boss. The player has access to ashen estus so any player still doing it including myself knows that they should equip healing spells. Abuse that and the spears and you can clear out the gankers without too much problem. But i suppose then there would be a complaint about players who run away and spam the spears most of the time.
Sam Haines Because he likes the Shulva Gank Squad so much he kept it out of the worst Soulsborne boss hall of fame, even though the fight and the run up to them are the worst in the DLC
I actually enjoy being Half-Light as the Painting Guardian will always heal you if you manage to keep him alive. That’s how I always win. Keeping the Guardian alive. So fighting Half-Light, Garbage, being Half-Light, Hell yeah.
I actually disagree about the Ancient Wyvern, which is atmospheric and at least cool to experience. Otherwise, could not agree more with the list. Gargoyles in DS2 can suck it. Nice work, Demod!
Charlie Cairone I agree, the Ancient Wyvern isn’t good, but it’s definitely not as offensively bad as people make it out to be. It’s at least not a painful experience like a lot of the worst souls bosses, such as moonlight butterfly or those gargoyles
Mostly solid list. I think Halflight was a better fight than Gravetender & Greatwolf, so they should be in his spot. The fact that Spear of the Church can be a PvP/covenant-related boss is really interesting.
Ah yes the bed of chaos, a boss I have yet to face but know it will try my patients. Regardless good luck with the move Demod, may it be easy and go smoothly :) Have a good day!
I'm tempted to severely injure myself just to be wheeled into a room with only a tv and Dark Souls, and just have some guy hand me a controller and say "Kill it before you bleed out"
And there's a trick to the "Leap of faith", which is to NOT jump, and just run off the edge instead. It's still tedious and a pain to get to each kill point, but it can be made a little easier.
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What about the gankfest in Dark souls 2? It's not even a boss but a fight where you run around in circles untill you have an opening to attack 1 of 3 npcs. And don't get me started on the blue smelter demon (I love ds2 but some bosses get on my nerves)
Samuel Delgado blue smelter is only bad because he is a rehashed fight, but atleast he changes up some of his boss mechanics to make the fight a little more challenging over demon firesage who is just a reskin of the stray demon with no new attacks
i think too many people confuse "boss I don't like" with "boss that is actually bad" I agree that subsequent playthroughs become a slog for gimmick bosses, but the first time I see a unique boss and have to learn what to do is always amazing for me. back when I could only play for a few ours after school, i would get stuck on bosses for days. It took me multiple tries to beat Capra demon in his tiny arena or navigate the entire stealth mechanic of dragon god. I will never be impressed with these bosses again, but I will forever be nostalgic for my early gaming days when beating a game was about retrying a level repeatedly and getting so familiar with its mechanics and then that shallow feeling when you realize that you will never struggle with the level the same way again. even if you restart the game, you will never go into it blind.
I don’t think the bed of chaos is the worst boss in Dark Souls, yes it’s bad, and yes it is tedious, but it’s the only boss that saves your progress so really just run in and don’t worry about death, died like 5 times to this boss but it was all good.
My personal top 10 worst Soulsborne bosses.... 10) Crystal Sage (Dark Souls 3) I get that he's meant to be an easy boss being an early to mid game boss depending on your method of clearing the game, but... Heavily telegraphed attacks along with super easy tells and even in his second phase, avoiding his attacks are pretty much as simple as remembering that he has purple attacks and bum rushing him, since if you're fast enough, you can easily get to his side or back before he finishes charging his spells. 9) True King Allant (Demon's Souls) From Software decided to pull a Final Fantasy 10 and cap off the game with a boss you have to be TRYING to die to? 8) Covetous Demon (Dark Souls 2) Dude barely puts up much of a fight, you have to be trying to be hit by his attack and the only move he has that's of interest is the one where he eats you and unequips your gear. And he rarely uses that move!! 7) Royal Rat Vanguard (Dark Souls 2) An overall unfair gank fight. You're stuck in a tiny room full of rat statues and the rats in the room can insta kill you with Curse. 6) Red Dragon (Demon's Souls) Pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. 5) Belfry Gargoyles (Dark Souls 2) Literally just the Bell Gargoyles from 1, now with 300% more gargoyles! 4) Stray Demon (Dark Souls 1) The Asylum Demon simply with AoE added to his attacks? Really, FromSoft....? 3) Micolash (Bloodborne) Running away like a coward and laying traps? Really? 2) Deacons of the Deep (Dark Souls 3) A simple room full of hollow priests who shoot easy to dodge spells at you and have a glowing light marking the one you're to hit? That seriously all? At least throw some of that stuff in the rooms with those giants to mix it up and make it more interesting. Was one of the only bosses I actually felt incredibly bored while fighting. 1) Bed of Chaos.
@Jeff somethingsomething I only said that because OP praised the music even though it was just re-used from a much better fight from a much better game. So you can't really give it credit
I'm not going to argue that the Bed of Chaos is a good boss fight, or fun, but I don't understand why people say it's unfair. I thought it was very easy. The roots at her sides stay broken if you die, so the fight gets shorter and shorter leaving the odds skewed in the player's favor. There are a number of places in the arena that she strait up can't hit without her pyromancy, which give you a lot of time to heal in between. This leaves the player with chances to catch their breath. Lastly, I was able to beat her while only leaping 1 time. I saw a clear rout where I could walk across without needing to jump. The only leap I had to do was to get to the root in the center, which I succeeded on my first try. I wouldn't describe Chaos on a scale of good or bad, she's so different from every boss in the series that it just depends on how you adjust. I beat Chaos relatively stress-free, instead I felt thrilled. If the distance between her and the last bonfire wasn't so long I'd think she was actually pretty fun.
The reason Bloodborne was in the description is because it was considered in the rankings. Bloodborne’s worst bosses were considered to be good enough to not be worse than these bosses, therefore not making the list.
@@wyvernslayer4530 Well that's certainly your opinion. I haven't played every single souls game, but I have played Dark Souls 1 and 3 and Bloodborne. I can confidently say I love Bloodborne the most of the three. I personally probably would have had at least one Bloodborne boss on this list (witches of Hemwick) but Bloodborne in my opinion is a masterpiece overall.
This man seriously forgot about the Royal Rat Vanguard, a boss that is literally just a regular rat with a mohawk in a room filled with other rats. The room itself isn't even a boss arena, it's just a normal mobbing area with fogwalls!
Pretty sure the gargoyles aren't on a timer it's % health based as if they all share a common hp pool and a new one comes out when you cross each threshold. So if you don't want to fight all of them then you just need to finish what you start and focus the weaker ones. Sounds like you just didn't figure this fight out.
The belfry gargoyles are like the 4 kings, while there can be a lot of them at once, only one or 2 attack you so calling it a 5 on one isn’t entirely true, I found th quite fun, at least better than ruin sentinels
You can fight all of them if you mistakenly hit an inactive one. It'll come to life and immediately attack, so it unfortunately narrows the playing field even MORE so you don't have an accident and hit the others. It's why I wind up pressured into corners so much to either side of the door, cause I'm afraid of having 5 of them gang up on me cause I stupidly hit the others lol.
The Demon Souls bridge dragon isn't even a boss Meanwhile: >No Skeleton Lords >No Prowling magus and Congregation, nor the ds3 equivalent >No Nashandra
I'm actually happy Halflight isn't optional. I was never into PVP but I must say that by getting summoned as Spear of the Church, I really started to enjoy pvp more and more
You know. When I play DS2 I always, always, 1000% of the time forget Covetous Demonexists. Like. What's the point of him????? He has no story???? Like. If I remember right most bosses have some TINY purpose or visible area relation. Old Dragonslayer is in an altered version of Anor Lond's Cathedral. Royal Rat Authority/Vanguard block a covenant (which happens in DS1 too with O&S technically) Bell Gargoyles protect a key that can be used against the Sinner. Pursuer blocks an end-game location and, like Capra and Taurus before him, has non-boss counterparts. Guardian Dragon is the same way. Smelter is technically, but not practically, optional. And then there's all these bosses to reach the 4 Great Ones and you can just walk to the Rotten. Get a Silvercat, make the fall. Profit.
I didn't actually find the one reborn to be THAT bad. I mean the one reborn is not a good boss in any way, but he doesn't make me suicidal like these bosses (except the ones in demon's souls and dark souls 2 because I haven't actually played those games/fought any bosses in them)
@@w.s.7567 then you have like no vigor? you do know that's one of the most important stats to level up, so obviously if you have like 15 at that point you're gonna have a bad time.
@@w.s.7567 then that's why you die in 1 hit. late game bosses deal far more damage then you have health without significant investments into vigor which is why it's so important to level up, because it allows you to make more mistakes. if you don't level vigor, you have to be completely FLAWLESS against later game bosses, and really everyone makes mistakes.
11:36 I think the best strategy for bed of chaos is if you have enough strentgh just wield havels greatshield with tho hands and put grast crest shield to your back and of course use the Havels ring .And you have to be naked for light load also some endurance required
He was great. I think his fight, especially in second phase, is built to bait you into rushing after him, and then being ambushed by skeletons. I thought it was very clever.
I think he's the most atmospheric boss fight in the game. Chasing down a cackling madman through twisting foggy hallways with a score of frantic piano notes and an ethereal choir is as Lovecraftian a scenario you can get, and I just love the execution!
Thing is, to enjoy Micolash Cage's bossfight you have to either love lovecraft or be very dedicated to the lore. Hell, I love BB's lore and I still find that fight annoying. Still, it's better than celestial retards and trash on this list.
The bed of chaos is the best boss in my opinion. Let’s face it we all love Mario you know stompin’ on goombas and the fact that they implemented platforming into a rpg was a bold move. As for the platforms of course you can’t tell which ones will fall apart which is exactly what makes the platforming so exciting because falling into a bottomless abyss with gravity being the only damage tells you that this is a fair fight. And don’t even get me started on the attacks they are so smart making you fall over to do it all over again so you can tell yourself “This is balanced I just made a mistake” because being swiped into an abyss from a sweeping attack on falling platforms is more than fair. And the pyromancer attacks actually fits the lore, and it’s firestorm which is so well balanced by the way that it’s near impossible to avoid and it keeps trying stopping you from the one shot kill. Speaking of the one shot kill holy sh*t if this ain’t a castlevania throwback then I don’t know what is. One shots are satisfying which makes this Mario platforming, well balanced pit sweeping, fantastic presenter for the lore behind this boss, such a fantastic well designed boss I doubt we’ll ever see Miyazaki deliver something like this again.
I honestly think that capra demon is a worse boss than bed of chaos because at least bed of chaos feels like a boss fight. Capra demon is barely more than a basic enemy, and if there was no fog wall, I would never even consider the idea that he is classified as a full fledged boss fight.
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10 the two dogs that are with capra demon
Pretty accurate
I just use quit outs for bed of chaos
the two dogs would be in hardest bosses
SicParvisMagna bed of chaos is just lazy, ancient dragon takes the crown as the worst of the worst
I do hate the ancient dragon aswell but I love its design because it reminds me of all the good dragons and it also gave me a fright when my friend attacked the dragon because he thought it would give him the giant soul without knowing it was a boss walst my least favorite is prowling magus who is shit in every way especially since I killed it without being bothered to look at the bottom of the screen and figured out in demodcracys vid that it was a boss
First time I fought a Spear of the Church I got an AFK player.
I was really confused.
I had a similar thing happen during the Looking Glass Knight battle about a few days ago.
You want it know what sucks? Yesterday i was speedrunning/no death the dlc, and one hit away from killing the player church spear, then he quit, which summoned HALFLIGHT, AT ALMOST FULL HP. He killed me and I screamed SO LOUD. So yes, if the spear quits, they should just give you the win at that point
@@crims0nfire991 Yeah right? I mean... You basically beat the guy.
@@crims0nfire991 Isn't it generally safer to be offline during speedruns?
@@Truemmerprinz for traditional runs yes, but i wanted to challenge myself
The bed of chaos made me have mental breakdown, but the two dogs that hang with the Capra demon made me have a episode
Poise, my dude
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 a year too late bud. I've beat every single dark souls game including sekiro and got ultra trophy for Bloodborne.
@@nvkage Ok bud
@@nvkage what about demon's souls remake?
I'm a Box I don't have a ps5 😭
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I laughed for 10 minutes at this, literally 10 minutes.
I can't decide if everyone else is a pussy or if I have brain cancer, because Bed of Chaos is one of my favorite bosses in the entire series.
I hope you recover well.
Moon light butterfly may suck but at least the music and general aesthetic is beautiful
Moonlight Butter doesn't fly! How many times do we have to say it??
agreed
Totally agreed
It doesn't even suck. It's a fair dodge practice in the early game, and it's esthetically beautiful.
Also, he whines about Bed Of Chaos but he does it without a bow... no wonder. That's like if a magic caster complained about a boss resistant to magic, adapt!
I also thought that spear of the church was ok. DS2 has LITERALLY a dozen of worse bosses.
I also think that the firesage demon is the less worst of the 4 Izalith bosses. Apart from being a reskin, he's not that bad.
Anyway, I disagree 100% with his list
TheAskald I’m very new to Ds so I may not be the best person to talk to about this, but my first reaction after I beat moonlight butterfly was “well that sucked”. Like I said I’m still really new to Ds1 but so far it’s been my least favorite boss.
If Ancient Wyvern didn't have a health bar on screen/fog door I think people would just consider it a cool segment of the game rather than a bad boss. Because it IS cool, just not when you analyze it as a boss fight.
I would put gank squad and old iron king on this list. Dreadful fights.
Great point
Lmao Old Iron King is a joke. The only real challenge there is the magnetizing lava
Yes Very I’ve only died to OIK once in my 8+ runs of Souls 2, and it was my very first attempt on my very first playthrough. Only reason I died was cuz I had zero idea about the lava hole in the back. Fuck that boss. It’s easily in my top 5 worst in the series. What makes it worse is that he looks so cool, but sucks so much ass. Whatta tease
Still better than the Royal Shat Authority , Bed of Bullshit and Capra Semen
Good point, unfortunately it is a boss though
Old iron king is okay but gank bosses are juat shit
Ah yes. The lovely Bed of Chaos. When I finally made it to the bug, I hit heavy attack and my game crashed just before it hit.
F
R2 into game crash is a true combo, 2nd only to parry into disconnect.
when i made that jump and was about to kill that pesky bug he just spammed me with aoe damage inside the tree
@@gergoretvari6373 I also died to it but I killed it right before I died to its aoe attack.
Same
Hardest Boss? Not having a stroke when a Crystal Lizard disappears in front of you.
*HITBOX REEEEEEEEEEE*
Ed Eranged When I played dark souls remastered for the first time there was a barrel with a message next to it that said "here" I rolled into it having no idea what was gonna pop out...this fucking turtle ran out and I was like "yea that's important" so I spent like 3 min running around trying to hit it.
@@howen474 That was totally me the first time, didn't have notes to follow though some I was playing offline
XD
your sword bouncing off the wall makes me cry everytime
DARK SOULS 2 FLASHBACKS
No, Bed of Chaos is the worst. I was doing a randomizer run and had to decide "do I want to do Catacombs -without a light-, or Bed of Chaos?"
I chose Catacombs.
maxastro fax lol
you can get a skull lantern from the necromancers
Bed of Chaos is trivially easy if you have a shield and just know how to do it.
maxastro fuck that i’d rather fight BOC those skeletons are the worst enemies ever apart from dogs. And nito is the most bullshit boss ever.
@@Rjkay45
Nito is actually pretty easy.
“It’s full of basic enemies! Exactly what I don’t want to fight in a boss battle!”
*Arkham Asylum looks away*
One of the few bad things about the Arkham series: those bad boss fights that's just waves of assholes to beat while the actual boss throws bullshit at you.
I mean some of the boss fights are good, like the ones against bane.
God of War 3 hides its face behind the books...
i think most of those games are fine because the gameplay is shrouded in being outnumbered but being able to takedown tons of enemies, souls games, in my view, are at their peak in 1 on 1 combat that acts more like a timing dance than a fight
That's right, looking at you, Arkham Asylum. Slink away, you coward. Ya know you can't take me on alone. Seriously, even fighting two titans at once is not enough to make it thrilling, and it's especially not viable for Joker to turn into a demonic beefcake only for him to let his minions still do the fighting for him.
You know which boss is worse than all of these, and has the dishonor to show up in every souls game?
the camera
FreeTime Player u stupid it’s the hitbox
Its killed me several times and I havent even put a dint in it
@@jimzimmer2048 Maybe in Dark Souls 2
I thought you was gonna say patches.
Have you ever played games with fixed camera? XD That's even worse, but good point! :D I personly hate in the whole serie that, almost all of the enemies hit through the wall, meanwhile your weapon stucks into nothing a lot of time :/
My worst boss is Giant Dad, straight up unbeatable and incredibly sexy too, just unfair. Bute hey, the Legend never dies.
"He welcomes everybody with open arms, but as if in question"
When I played Dark Souls recently I finally understood what made Giant Dad so almighty
''unbeatable''
just press b bro
The bed of chaos in dark souls remastered isnt the worst boss in the souls series
Bed of chaos in dark souls 1 is the worst boss in the souls series because it looks slightly worse..?
Oh, I get it. Haha
But bed of chaos remastered costs 40 bucks
It could be worse. Not saying Bed of Chaos is a good boss, but at least it takes no real time or effort to beat it. It's the most laughably easy boss in all of Dark Souls 1. And that's sad, because Pinwheel is among those bosses.
😂😂
just bored back when you bought the original dark souls, it probably cost a similar price. what, you bought the remaster eventhough you already own the original dark souls and (almost) nothing of significance changed? thats on you, bud.
Me: i found new mental illness
Doctor: what is it called
Me: bed of Chaos is good boss
Family: Is he going to be alright? What’s wrong with him?
Doctor: He thinks the Bed of Chaos is a good boss.
Family: *Gasp*
Doctor: I’m sorry, but he’s too far gone. We’re going to have to put him down before his mind goes any further.
Family: *Starts crying* We understand.
But it is lol. If you don’t look up for info on it, it’d take you a bit to figure out what was happening
gurrl Ya, except it’s not fun at all to figure it out because A, the boss and the arena suck donkey dong, and B, the run from the bonfire back to BoC is fuckin BOOOOOORING, no matter which one you start from. No, it’s not a good boss. I’m jealous that you think it is, but it’s not.
@@DomOfSin666 he never said he did like it
"You can heal all you want" Other guy immediately throws undead hunter charm.
The Bed Of Chaos made me have a mental breakdown the first time I fought it
I still have PTSD
I had Post Traumatic Boss Fight Disorder(PTBFD) thanks to her.
@@Mudrado Ahh you make it sound easy but you see there is a little more to it than that.
@@Mudrado it fucking pushes you into the holes. Not to mention the bullshit directions you get knocked. Fuck that fight
Lunatic Programmer i literally did it in 4 attempts
The Bed of Chaos is so awful. I refuse to fight it without doing the quit and reload exploit.
Also noticed that there are no Bloodborne bosses on your list. God damn that game is so incredible.
Literally the worst bosses in Bloodborne are far better than any of these.
Witches of hemwick is the worst boss fight in bb
Laurence could easily earn a top stop on this list.
Gabe Kulcsár why?
@@fjert3729 Watch the ''Top 10 Worst Bosses of the Decade'' from Demodcracy himself, and he will explain.
I wish we had been able to fight the Witch of Izilith in the flesh instead of the stupid bed of chaos. It could have just been a cool background design for a real boss fight against said lordess we were expecting to fight.
Moonlight butterfly = summon witch Beatrice and let her do all the damage.
More like summon Witch Beatrice and dodge butterfly's attacks while Beatrice misses every single one of her magic attacks.
@@TheAphexTim - I've never experienced that issue before. She just always died when I summon her for the 4 kings.
Or:
Use Great Soul Arrow like 4-5 times.
I just played the Ringed City for the first time a week ago, and I thought, Hey I am a Sunlight Warrior, lets put my Sign down to help people like Solaire taught me, so I put my Sign down in the Church, only when I was summoned expecting Jolly Co-Operation, I was the Boss, and I was against Three people. So I died before my confusiton wore off.
On my side i had a huge regen build so you can imagine the frustration the players faced with the painting guardian healing on top of that xD
Ceaseless Discharge? I didn’t understand how to best him for while when I first started.
I beat him on my first try. I just stood in the corner where the armor is and just rolled into the wall to dodge the slam
Tyler Ojala me too because I didn’t have internet on my PlayStation 3, which means I never got a single patch for the game... so that means there was no insta killing him by running at the fog wall, that and I was 11 and really bad lmao
I beat him first try normally but maybe I was overleveled for the area
Lmao,he rarely did the attack that got him stuck and you do shit damage to him
Luka Hays it’s such a dumb cheese. W/ cheese he’s the easiest boss more than moonlight even. It’s truly preposterous 😂
I like how you get progressively angrier as the video goes on
I'm seeing a lack of Greatwood. That tree is fucking trash both literally and figuratively.
He was optionall and easy and at least unique. Somthing that most of the bosses on this list dont have.
Maximus speak for yourself. Motherfucking Manus and Artorias combined didn't take me as much time or tries as the tree. I have the worst luck with rng ever. It took me like 25 tries for that bullshit boss in ds3 in o and s boss room (I can't remember his name. Edit: just remembered his name. Aldrich) while 'harder' bosses like pontiff sulhyvayn took me three tries and as ashamed and proud as I am to say, I killed ancient wyvern with a sword (the hollowslayer greatsword +2 and a regular Knight shield) without the one hit kill. Took me about 8 tries
I had MUCH more problems with Manus and Atorias (probaply because my old PC and Framerate was so bad that i had in Blightown at max 5 FPS) I have beatten the tree with a maximum of 5 tries , but i suck on the Gargoiles from Darksouls one I tried to beat him at least 3 times with Solaire and didnt beat them (To my excuse it was my first DS and still on the old Pc) I died so often that i didnt even had anymore humanity. Then i challenged the Buterfluy and oh boy... after that i had beaten the gargoiles in my first try (after moonlight butterfly). And I dont would be ashamed about the wyvern cause if I didnt knew about the fight i would have done the same... probaply. And I deaply respect youre patience that you have killed him with your build, I have tried to beat him like that too and than I said after minimal damage output "Fuck it im doin it the easy way. (I had The Greatsword +10 and Grass Crest Shield +10)
I mean, it’s kinda fun.
This is probably not a popular way to deal with it, because it isn't melee, but Pestilent Mercury absolutely devastates this boss in both phases.
I’m watching this after being shoved into the abyss by the Bed of Chaos about 13 times. At least I got a bunch of Demon Titanite along the way. 😒
The only one I don't agree with is number 2. I thought it was ok, kind of cool but nothing frustrating or bad
Same here
Same, it's not an amazing fight, everybody agrees, but the mechanics aren't bad, the atmosphere is quite good, the challenge ok, the idea of,a pvp fight is poorly used but it doesn't deserve to be hated like that.
i think the problem for him is that he doesn’t care for pvp, which is a shame :/
Different strokes, I personally hated it. To be fair; I don't like pvp, but even if I did, I'd just play pvp. This just seems lazy. And I completely agree that Midir should've been required and this should've be optional. That said, I don't think that's the actual reason, after all he likes the Old Monk fight.
i hate how he didn't mention when a meta hp caster invades as the spear of the church. I usually run around with the church covenant on my int caster, and absolutely FUCK whoever i get due to the increased poise you get as a boss, 1 shot an estus chugger with soul stream, the truest spear of the church imo.
The red dragon from Demon's souls is considered a boss?
ThatOneGuitarGuy 98 How? It doesn't even have a big health bar on the screen.
Pipo de Clown yeah but is an unique enemy and is consider a boss with the blue dragon, the old king Doran and vanguard non tutorial
He added it to the DeS roster since that game has the fewest bosses
Psuedo boss
Lol it's not a boss anymore than the dragon on the high wall of lothric in ds3 is is a boss. You literally dash past is to get a real boss. I don't care if from Software considers it a boss. I refuse.
*theDeModcracy:* #6 Dragon God - "The idea of incorporating a stealth fight in a Souls game... makes absolutely no sense in a game that is centered around face to face combat"
*From Software in 2019:* Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
Ken Riven
Nice try except there’s not a single boss in Sekiro that incorporates stealth mechanics.
Inb4 _“bUt MiNiBoSsEs?!”_
*NO*
@@OfficialCrowMauler I mean... it was just a joke... but you win. Hope my concession makes you happier with your day, brother.
Actually, you can get a stealth hit on The Drunkard if you reset him after killing the trash mobs...
.. but mainly, I was just kidding around.
Ken Riven
You actually just said that? Did you even read what I said?
> Bosses
> Drunkard
Uhhhh........
Ken Riven
You were actually correct though. You can make 2 deathblows against True Corrupted Monk by hiding on the tree branches. Only found that out after beating her again after writing my comment.
*Congratulations!*
The lore of bed of chaos makes it even worse, "hey you remember those awesome guys who got the original souls in the opening screen? Well one of them turned into a little bug.."
The lore is interesting, not as dead simplified as you told it, but sadly the fight doesn't represents this.
And the Witch is a tree.
Yeah it's weird. Though in their own ways all the lord soul bosses suck ass. Nito is so damn easy to cheese, Bed of Chaos is well Bad of Chaos, 4 kings is pretty lazy and just a dps race and Seith is just smash crystal then hug the booty and never get hit. Nito is maybe the best of the four.
The witch is the worm you hit to finish the boss, not the tree. Bed of Chaos' lore is one of the more complex and open in the series. It kind of defines everything related to chaos and demons. Go back to Ivory Crown DLC in DS2 SotFS and think again :)
Quentin FD
Oh. Then what’s up with the tree with arms?
Number 1 worst boss: The Blightown frame rate!
At least the Remastered fixed that.
So did the fan made DSfix downloadable patch, but they didn't charge full RRP for it ;p
@@edwardgordon7839 No it didn't, DSFix was just that - a fan-made patch. It only made the game "bearable" on PC. Although I agree that the price of the Remaster is way too high for something that is essentially a patch too.
@@lunarcultist6214 i just hope my poor little laptop can handle ds remastered although i doubt it
I don't know why so many people had such problems with blighttown - its an annoying area for sure but I just took it slow and don't remember being stuck there for an excessive amount of time, certainly not anywhere near as long as the Arno Londor archers
A friend and I went through the Archwyvern fight by taking our time with the enemies. Suddenly the boss died on its own by falling off of the arena to get to us.
I feel like this was the discussion at the office for the ancient dragon.
"Hey boss, i have a great idea for a boss"
"Whats that john?"
"Well, do you remember the moonlight butterfly?"
"Yeah"
"And how it kind of just have the finger to melee builds"
"Yeah"
"Well lets do it again but have the boss have higher durability than a tiger tank and have it do so much fire damage that you'd have to have the fire resistance of yhorm to survive."
"Yeah lets do tha... who the hell is yhorm?"
"I dunno"
Ancient dragon is almost as bad as that horrendous final fantasy 12 super boss dragon with about a billion hitpoints - I don't think it took anyone 5+ hours to beat though
Greatwood is not in the list
He did it guys
And so did Pinwheel!
Pinwheel is god the easiest boss in soulsborne but not the worst
Same to greatwood, which is optional
@@tesouro2146 Somebody hasn't played Demon's Souls.
@@tesouro2146 But if you don't kill greatwood, you can't craft weapons and spells from bosses. So somehow its still a mandatory boss fight.
@@kevinclement1533 oh yeah that's true
Hey don't bully pinwheel, he graces us with a mask that dictates our run for the rest of the game
From Software: "You want a badass stealth fight, huh?"
*Makes Sekiro.*
Also "Darksouls 2 Shitboxes" gave me a good laugh.
It's funny because 99% of the "bad hitboxes" in ds2 are completely due to low adp =)))
Lhakryma No they're not... High ADP just hides the fact hitboxes are fucking garbage.
@@meyes1098 The fact that they tied things like hitboxes, and healing speed to a stat is the real problem.
@@Avghistorian77 Why is it a problem?
Monster hunter freedom unite shitboxes
I actually find Halflights PvE version somewhat enjoyable and I think it shouldn’t be beat down so much for the main reason that unless you’re speedrunning, waiting for Argo to finish speaking isn’t a problem, also Halflights fight had an interesting unique feature added in regards to the Spears of the Church covenant where for 500x your SL in souls you can do the fight again, thus presenting an easier and more interesting way for offline people (in my opinion) to farm the covenant rewards
Nolan Lindberg People hate NPC bosses for some reason but I really liked Halflight and the guy with wolves from Ariandel.
Walamonga 1313 I find grave tender one of the hardest just because of how he can turtle against the sellswords which I use for speed runs and normal games
If you like it, cool, but I just found it lazy as hell. And I agree it should've been optional.
I personally use a faith build, so being the spear of the church is both advantageous and entertaining for a good pvp fight. More fun with host having summons with him/her.
I've heard that you can't skip Argo's dialogue because that's when the game searches for a covenant member to spawn in, but I could be wrong.
No Prowling Magus and Congregation? All bosses from list had at least minimum efford put in creating them, where PMaC are just bunch of mobs thrown together. It's like putting fogwall in this room with Channeler and bunch of red hollows before gargoyles in DS1 and calling it a boss!
I don't think he even considers that a boss. I don't.
When I played through that "boss," I didn't even realise I had been fighting a boss until I got the victory screen. Whoops!
Top 5 laziest boss designs
5 - Blue Smelter Demon (at least they changed the attack timings)
4 - Gank squad (Somehow its still a fun fight)
3 - Twin Dragon Riders (there isn't even a ledge for them to fall off)
2 - Prowling Magus and Congregation (at least there's some variety in enemies)
1 - Royal Rat Vanguard (literally just a room full of rats & no context whatsoever)
Hang on a minute, these are all from DS2
Brajan Markowski will never know how that doesn't top every single worst bosses list ever. At least bed of chaos and every other boss on this list have special effort put in to create them.
Bradley Greer Stray Demon and Semon Firesage are missing
Personally think you're ranking halflight way too low, I mean sure the fight's got flaws and its quality is highly dependent on if you're matched up with a good player, and yes the pve version sucks, however this fight wasn't really designed to be played in pve. There are far worse bosses that deserve a spot on this list, such as prowling magus and congregation, or Jabba the hutt (both of which take even less time to kill than a bad halflight player). In addition there are some things to tip this in the boss' favor at least somewhat, the invading player gets a notable defensive buff and is capable of summoning those lightning spears the same way the PVE version can.
The painting guardian can almost fully heal them and if the player has a brain, they will protect that painting guardian throughout the fight, the player is also fully capable of casting their own healing miracles (including AOE heals that affect the guardian) or using ranged spells during any reprieve the painting guardian gives them. All of this makes it so that the fight becomes less of a pushover against a competent player, but instead becomes one where the boss is at a slight disadvantage (at least 1v1) and needs to make the best use of their resources to win.
It can also be very easy to punish estus healing in PVP, especially with another enemy being aggressive toward the player, so that becomes less of a factor, depending on who you get matched with. The challenge of this fight is primarily on the end of the player who is invading, with the idea being that if they beat Midir to access this covenant, that they've proven they have the skill to handle that challenge. It doesn't work that way since a lot of them are terrible, but it's a solid idea at least.
Honestly to me it was refreshing to see the old monk concept resurrected and felt that there was actually quite a bit more in the invading players' favor than there was for the old monk. Even in the case of multiple players this is taken into account with the soulmasses and lightning spears becoming usable more often. You can actually find quite a few examples of players doing really cool things with this fight.
I've never seen a CVS receipt so long
What I see as a common theme is that speedrunners all hate Half light (i saw ppl calling him Spear of cancer, complete BS etc) as complete piece of trash so maybe that's playing some bias on him since he also speedruns DS3.
I liked the concept idk why he hates it so much. The fact that he put it so Low makes me think that there is some unfair bias to it
1. He didn't like to play PvP
2. He is a dark souls speedrunner which every single DS3 players all hate on Halflight since the rng for you can either get a npc to beat easily or a player which is depends on player skill will either took longer or faster. Halflight isn't terrible but i also hate him because i'm also DS3 speedrunner,nowadays it is hard to find pvp in Halflight but 2 years ago when the dlc still fresh,it was very annoying to speedrun it
Nah, Halflight is trash. Should've been even lower.
While I agree these are some of the worst fights the red dragon isn't a boss
Also in my opinion either royal rat vanguard ,prowling magus/congregation,lud+zallen or old iron king would be here instead of a killable trap/large enemy
Desphinx lud an zall are just garbage and for if they attack at the same time
Lud and Zallen are pretty bad, but nowhere near as bad as the run up to them.
Geoffrey M lol yeah
poor dark souls 2
Yeah screw those lighting horses they come out of nowhere. The soul weapon is one of the best though, great moveset, great scaling, and could be buffed.
You're perfectly accurate with the Bed of Chaos being the worst. You KNOW something is bad when even the developers APOLOGIZE for it.
I think somewhere in this list, I'd put Lud and Zallen, cause the whole trip to them is awful, and it's a reskin of Aava, who wasn't an easy boss itself. And there's two of them and even with phantoms, they change their targets so often and so quickly that one minute you're racing after even ONE of them.....the next, both of them have decided to gang up on you and kill you cause your stamina couldn't withstand both of them pressuring you. The only thanks I feel for doing it is that I get the Loyce Greatsword, which is one of my favorites for being a solid greatsword for a Dex build and also a beautiful weapon in an aesthetic sense.
Lud and Zallen is one of the best bosses of soul series, so damn hostile enviroment
@@theoquintella191
The best HOW!? Explain yourself!
@@enjoyer2227 You need to change up your playstyle a lot. Thats why I like it. Its a bitch to get to but I enjoy the fight more than Aava.
Initially its just like Aava, you know what to do. Then the second jumps in at 33% its a rush to kill the right cat. It goes from simple to frantic. Then back to simple until it buffs and youre left with two options, avoid it for a while and let it heal until the buff wears off OR attack the cat and prevent it from healing but youre at risk from much higher damage attacks. Then you can finish it off. Plus their ice armor breaks weapon durability quickly so its best to have two weapons, making the playstyle change up even more.
I un ironically, genuinely think its a good fight. Way better than the likes of DS2's Gargoyles, or Throne Watcher/Defender.
“Love for from Software to prove you wrong in a future game with a badass stealth fight”
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Miyazaki: HOLD MY SUNNY D
Old Hero is a pretty cool fight!
I will say Capra Demon, is right at the begginin of the game, it takes years to make your way back, the arena and the dogs are just artificial dificulty to compensate for the poor boss design.
I agree for the most part, though I'd say the arena is what makes the fight boring and easy. Dodge the 3 attacks, immediately hit the stairs, kill the dogs as they chase you up the stairs, and then plunging attack on capra, climb the stairs, repeat. You either die in the first 3 seconds, or you win without any difficulty.
So that mean that they make a poor boss with a poor arena and poor strategy, that only shows that the devs just make a cheap fight to increase the dificulty, like the bonfires in new londo.
The lack of bonfires in New Londo is actually a positive, if you think about it. It's available right from the start, and it'd be fairly easy to soft-lock your game by running out of Transient Curses after resting at a hypothetical bonfire in New Londo. The lack of bonfires there is likely just a tough decision that had to be made, to prevent people from being unable to play the game anymore due to a lack of forethought before taking advantage of the game's "safe" havens.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 Running out of trans curses doesn't soft lock the game at all.
@@peterclairwidmer1156 We were discussing the hypothetical scenario of a bonfire somewhere in New Londo though. Which, in that hypothetical scenario, if the bonfire is too deep, and you go to it directly after escaping the asylum... a low level, unexperienced player could easily find themselves in a situation that they simply cannot progress from, or go back. I'd say it's a soft lock, at that point. Not a hard lock, there are definitely ways out. A bonfire that can lead to a situation like that is just unfair though... Dark Souls is many things, but never unfair.
I came back to Dark Souls 3 yesterday to mess around a bit and got summoned for the Halflight fight (Didn't know I had the covenant equipped) and I have to say it was actually really fun. It might not be flawlessly designed but having it near the top of the worst boss list over Capra Demon, Pinwheel, Rat Vanguard, Covetous Demon, Twin Dragon Rider, Prowling Magus, Curse-Rotted Greatwood and many more just feels weird to me but whatever, it's your list, not mine.
I find that pinwheel is fine boss, if you use shortcuts and run for him earliest in the run. He is made weak so you could kill him for right of kindling from the start
Not of the three gank boys in ds2 dlc?
respect the boys bruh
Jokes apart, I admit it was very satisfying to get rid of those bastards though I guess finishing that DLC is a satisfaction itself lol
Oh fuck those guys. DS2 gets crap for being easy, but holy shit the DLCs have hard bosses. Fucking gank squad. Fucking fire samurai guy with the super long run up. Fucking -Fume Knight-. >.>
@@maxastro Yeah but fume knight is probably one of the best fights in the game
Some of these bosses could be considered good in other games.
Curse rotted great wood could be good if it was in a Zelda game
BOC could be considered good in a Mario game.
Ancient wyvern could be considered good if it was in shadow of the colossus.
Bed of Chaos could be good in a game where platforming is a major feature, and the controls are optimized as such. Dark Souls controls are really bad for platforming.
Bed of Chaos would have been amazing had it appeared in Sekiro. If only.
For me, I'd swap out the Moonlight Butterfly with either Aava or Twin Dragonriders.
Aava has some of the worst hitboxes in the entire series, while the Twin Dragonriders are a shining example of how lazy From can get at times.
It's happened in all 3 DS whether the creators got lazy with a boss or just re-skinned a few of them:
DS1: Asylum Demon, Stray Demon, Demon Firesage for re-skin. I'd probably put Pinwheel, Moonlight Butterfly and Gaping Dragon as lazy bosses...lazy to me meaning there was so much more potential for them to be more difficult
DS2: Both Smelter Demons and Belfry Gargoyles for re-skin. Laziest bosses for me would be Prowling Magus and Congregation plus both Royal Rat fights and Twin Dragonriders...hell all the Dragonriders
DS3: Not really any re-skins that I can see...feel free to tell me if there is. Laziest bosses are definitely The Ancient Wyvern and Deacons of the Deep.
DS_Soundwave You could argue Champion Gundyr is a reskin, but that fight changes so substantially that I don't count it. For me, lazy is more just that there was a stunning lack of creativity. Take that Aava fight for example, it's like they spent no time at all thinking about "how can we distinguish this fight from the other large wolf-type enemy fights in the series?" Seriously, Aava is so generic, I can't even.
Well lore-wise Champion and Iudex are the same person so it doesn't bother me as much...also I forgot to mention Aava and the 2 in the Frigid Outskirts...let's take Aava, shrink her down a little and put 2 of them out there...creative..
Desphinx aava is nothing compared to Lud ans Zallen they are just pure Shit and whats more fun if they make the Choice to attack you at the Same time and there hitboxes suck too
Devrim I avoided that fight like the plague tbh. I think I've done it like, once.
My List from Dark Souls, Bloodborne and Sekiro:
10) Moonlight Butterfly
Boring and easy boss and is just incredibly hard to actually hit.
9) Witch of Hemwick
Took ages to find out how to actually kill this thing. Didn't release there was a little goblin witch thing that I had to kill. Easy fight when you know what to do but took ages for me to figure it out.
8) Headless
Was always doing no damage until i figured out you had to use divine confetti. Not to mention the stupid Terror buildup mechanic which makes this boss fight stupid and tedious. You also need to fight it 5 times throughout the game which makes it worse.
7) Halflight, Spear of the Church (PvP)
Due to lag, this boss was genuinely impossible. Had to turn off internet to fight offline boss because everytime I versed a player they would hit from like 10m away except they weren't attacking or moving at all. I would just die or they would teleport behind me and do a backstab.
6) Defiled Watchdog of the Old Lords
Took too long to kill and has broken hitboxes. Love hard bosses but this boss pissed me off.
5) Defiled Amygdala
I spent so long on this boss it became more of a frustration than challenging enjoyment.
4) Shichimen Warrior
Hate this boss because it took me a long time to figure out how to do sufficient damage that you wouldn't eventually die from Terror.
3) Crystal Sage
For some reason took so long to kill. Always got killed in phase 2 after an endless barrage of magic shit getting shot at you.
2) Ancient Dragon
Hitboxes are broken and such a stupid, tedious fight.
1) Bed of Chaos
Hard for the wrong reasons and probably one of the most boring, stupidly hard and tedious bosses in a game ever.
Mainly just me struggling to figure out how to kill them but as a result became incredibly tedious and a shitty experience.
I love Defiled amygdala and Ancient Dragon so I disagree there but other than that id say youre right
Forget adding a Vamos bonfire, the real addition we needed was one right in front of the Bed of Chaos fog wall! I'm not a fan of the fight, but it would be a lot less excruciating if the run up wasn't so goddamn long...
Anyways, great list as always DeMod! My picks for worst boss from each game:
Dragon God
Bed of Chaos
Lud and Zallen
Witches of Hemwick
Champion's Gravetender and Gravetender Wolf
The ASMR Review Show the run up to the bed of chaos isn't long at all, just use the bonfire in lost izalith past the illusory wall
The ASMR Review Show why the witches.
Micolash and Laurence are worse than the witches. Both are unfair and unfun. Micolash fight keeps on edge the most. Because if you slip up to the stupid call beyond you die and have to redo the hole first phase. Definitely the longest boss fight in the series. Witches are not a good fight. But I don't dread the witches like I dread micolash
At east the witches can be trivialized by spending your insight down to 0 after you first discover them. For worst, it still has to be Micolash, who I'm surprised didn't make the list. He runs around like a pansy, can only be cornered by pushing him into exactly the right section which can very easily be missed due to the fog and confusing layout of the arena, and then once you've cornered him, he can decide he's going to 1-shot you with A Call Beyond which can be unavoidable depending on his positioning. Then he guarantees his own disappearance at half health, forcing you to trek up some stairs past enemies that can inflict fast poison (though they are pretty bad at it), and into an even MORE confusing series of hallways and stairs that utilize teleporting, forces you to drop to push him into the right area which means you are guaranteed to lose health, and then he can decide to 1-shot you here if he failed to last time. AND the entire time he fights you his little marionettes are either following you around the hallways, constantly respawning, and not dropping any souls, OR they're spawned in the trap room where he brings them to life before you even have a chance to react. Lastly, if he does manage to kill you after you trapped him a second time, you have to start the entire bullshit process over from square 1. Also he talks the ENTIRE GODDAMN TIME I'LL GRANT YOU EYES ON THE BOTTOM OF MY BOOT YOU CAGEFACE.
His only saving grace is that once he is cornered, you can stunlock him really easily. At least that part is satisfying when it works out.
Lud and Zallen was a gank,optional and unnecesary hard to reach, but cmon you have the covetous demon, prowling magus, the "bossfight" that consist on running from rats and find one with diferent hairstyle and skelly lords. I think you just remember L&Z more and the other ones are easy to forget
How is Halflight worse than Rat Vanguard, Prowling Magus or Gank Squad?
There's a tell for the fire breath on ancient dragon. He'll make a large movement before actually flying up. As long as u move to the furthest part of the arena before he starts flying you'll avoid this move every time.
I actually like both versions of Halflight
the PvP version is challenging for the invader which makes it great for me and the pve version is a weird fight which feels kind of out of place imo but still has some nice mechanics
the soulmass he has and the light spears are challenging to overcome but the arena is well designed to hide from them
and the soundtrack is one of the best in the entire series
completly agree with the other 9 though
Jens has a unique covenant mechanic too
The worst fight for me must be Gehrman from bloodborne.
I mean, how am I supposed to fight the boss with tears?
Honorable mention: Ceaseless discharge
Halflight PVP is the best gimmick boss in Soulsborne, change my mind
If that's what you're into.
It looks like a fun change from the normal bosses. It also kind of NEEDS to be slanted towards the challenging player, because it would be controller throwingly hard if you didn't get some advantage.
Just a copy of the Old Monk fight from Demon's Souls
I, too, remember how the Old Monk summoned 2 AI allies, could spawn lightning spears from the ground and heal himself through his AI allies. Wait what?
Zura people always board the hate train of ds3 because the “BosSes Are cOpiED” but forget that ds2 had literally 2 bosses from the previous game
bell fry gargoyles
BELL FRY? BELL FRY???
@NimbleShadow What do you mean?
@@arbiter- They didn't invent the word Belfry
Arbiter *facepalm*
This is the same dude that pronounced vicar as "vie-car" isn't it?
I though the same thing, hah
"Melee is the core gameplay of Darksouls"... Dont listen to them Sorcerer they just dont know...
Melee / Sorcerer hybrid is the way to go. You get the perks from both and none of the downsides.
I haven't gotten that far in Dark Souls Remastered, but I H A T E D the Capra Demon. The arena's way too small and those dogs flinch you so the demon itself can whale on you.
Git gud Capra Demon is casul filter
the capra demon is really bad, I agree. although if you have knight's armor or elite knight's armor you can poise through the dogs and kill them, then focus down the capra demon. once you kill the dogs quickly take off your armor so you're fast rolling, and the capra demon should be pretty easy after that.
So....
Demon Souls: 2
Dark Souls: 3
Dark Souls II: 3
Bloodborne: 0
Dark Souls III: 2
Vs. best bosses
Demon Souls: 0
Dark Souls: 2
Dark Souls II: 0
Bloodborne: 3
Dark Souls III: 5
Sounds about right.
Yeah well bloodborne's bosses are all trash
@@wyvernslayer4530 ahh a troll
but... the old hero is in demons souls
@@lightingthief4482 not a troll. I just dont like bloodborne. You are the troll bitch boy
@@wyvernslayer4530 troll ahead
therefore Try disliking
Halflight is one of my favorite bosses in the franchise. I mean in the final dlc of the final game Miyazaki let's you literally become a Dark Souls boss. That's dope. I wish healer boy wasn't there, but I truly love that fight.
Halflight ain't so bad, at least the music is sick.
I know, eh? Just a mildly annoying NPC with a lot of health and infinite focus.
Halflight is hard as balls
But he only uses one attack depending on your distance.
Yeah, but that could be said about all the DS3 bosses. Even the shit ones.
@@JABRIEL251 You could use this argument on every Souls Boss(In Bloodborne they didnt even had own Moves moust of the Time.
WOAH. Halflight is better than Skankwood and Memecolash. They both deserved a spot on this list.
I'm surprised there is no Paarl or The Rotten either.
Jon Creech playing as halflight I loved that boss.
Zura Paarl and Rotten are both great fights though.
Rotten is a shitty, boring fight with a underwhelming gimmick. Paarl either turns into "pray you can rush him early" or "absolutely demolish him later on" boss, no inbetween.
I love rotten and Paarl, come at me.
the ONE saving grace about bed of chaos is that the boss does not recover between loading screens, the sides dont come back.
I love how everyone messes up the demon fire sages lore, like its on the weapon you get for killing him, like he isn’t a pyromancer he is the last caster of fire sorcery, which is a lot cooler, still a shitty boss though.
Hackram Chaoschaser what's the difference?
The first Pyromancers had to use staffs.
Then why the fuck is he called Demon FIREsage?
i think halflight is fine. it is a forgetable boss for sure but it is not as offensifly bad as gretwood, capra demon, gank squad dark souls 2, lud and zalen, witches of hemwick, Twin Dragonrider and prowling magus and congragetion.
I thought Capra Demon was a good boss. With the dogs in a confined area, it's intimidating and a dangerous melee threat, causing frustration for many new players. People feel good after taking him down
The worst boss of all the soul's franchise is this goddamn CAMERA !!!
Ooh! The goddamera!!
I really liked Ancient Wyvern, butterfly and micolash,found them incredibly atmospheric.
PvP Spears does not belong on this list. Being the boss is too much fun and that should be taken into account the experiences as the boss. The player has access to ashen estus so any player still doing it including myself knows that they should equip healing spells. Abuse that and the spears and you can clear out the gankers without too much problem. But i suppose then there would be a complaint about players who run away and spam the spears most of the time.
ALSO....shulva gankers not on list.....WHY!?
Sam Haines Because he likes the Shulva Gank Squad so much he kept it out of the worst Soulsborne boss hall of fame, even though the fight and the run up to them are the worst in the DLC
I actually enjoy being Half-Light as the Painting Guardian will always heal you if you manage to keep him alive. That’s how I always win. Keeping the Guardian alive. So fighting Half-Light, Garbage, being Half-Light, Hell yeah.
bed of chaos has big gay, am i right boys.
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Penguin507 high five for being a penguin
damn straight
Omega lol
*high fives*
Penguin507 no, I have big gay, Bed of Chaos is just cancer
I actually disagree about the Ancient Wyvern, which is atmospheric and at least cool to experience. Otherwise, could not agree more with the list. Gargoyles in DS2 can suck it.
Nice work, Demod!
Charlie Cairone I agree, the Ancient Wyvern isn’t good, but it’s definitely not as offensively bad as people make it out to be. It’s at least not a painful experience like a lot of the worst souls bosses, such as moonlight butterfly or those gargoyles
Charlie Cairone dude Gargoyels in Ds2 are not as bad As Lud and Zallen if they make the choice to attack you at the same good luck they are just SHIT
the most egregious thing about Lud and Zallen is that it's a DLC boss, unless you have SOTFS
The worst thing about Lud & Zallen is getting to them
The gutter, Black Gultch, Harvest Valley and Farron keep are also horrible
Where is the Capra Demon with the awful dog gank in a room smaller than my bathroom.
Mostly solid list. I think Halflight was a better fight than Gravetender & Greatwolf, so they should be in his spot. The fact that Spear of the Church can be a PvP/covenant-related boss is really interesting.
Ah yes the bed of chaos, a boss I have yet to face but know it will try my patients. Regardless good luck with the move Demod, may it be easy and go smoothly :) Have a good day!
patience*
opethmike No, it's going to try his patients. He's a doctor.
I'm tempted to severely injure myself just to be wheeled into a room with only a tv and Dark Souls, and just have some guy hand me a controller and say "Kill it before you bleed out"
And there's a trick to the "Leap of faith", which is to NOT jump, and just run off the edge instead. It's still tedious and a pain to get to each kill point, but it can be made a little easier.
1.Bed of chaos
2.Bed of chaos
3.Bed of chaos
4.Bed of chaos
5.Bed of chaos
6.Bed of chaos
7.Bed of chaos
8.Bed of chaos
9.Bed of chaos
Honorable mentions-Bed of chaos
10.Bed of chaos
What about the gankfest in Dark souls 2? It's not even a boss but a fight where you run around in circles untill you have an opening to attack 1 of 3 npcs. And don't get me started on the blue smelter demon (I love ds2 but some bosses get on my nerves)
Blue Smelter get a bad rap from it area, while the Gank is somewhat easy to fight if you have fought those weapon before.
I think those areas were meant for co-op same thing with Lud and Zallen
Samuel Delgado blue smelter is only bad because he is a rehashed fight, but atleast he changes up some of his boss mechanics to make the fight a little more challenging over demon firesage who is just a reskin of the stray demon with no new attacks
Yeah. For me Gank Squad was a worse expereince than Bed of Chaos.
Aww yes the much beloved DS2 'challenge' bosses... I wonder why that Idea didn't return for DS3...
Halflight?!!!?!! He doesn't deserve to be here
Opinions, man.
Totally agree. I’d put pinwheel or sewer rats from ds2.
he's actually pretty good in my perspective though maybe thats just because I only play ds3 mostly because of pvp
i think too many people confuse "boss I don't like" with "boss that is actually bad"
I agree that subsequent playthroughs become a slog for gimmick bosses, but the first time I see a unique boss and have to learn what to do is always amazing for me.
back when I could only play for a few ours after school, i would get stuck on bosses for days.
It took me multiple tries to beat Capra demon in his tiny arena or navigate the entire stealth mechanic of dragon god.
I will never be impressed with these bosses again, but I will forever be nostalgic for my early gaming days when beating a game was about retrying a level repeatedly and getting so familiar with its mechanics and then that shallow feeling when you realize that you will never struggle with the level the same way again. even if you restart the game, you will never go into it blind.
The gargoyles in Dark Souls 2 don’t spawn on a timer, a new one spawns once a gargoyle gets to a certain % of health
I don’t think the bed of chaos is the worst boss in Dark Souls, yes it’s bad, and yes it is tedious, but it’s the only boss that saves your progress so really just run in and don’t worry about death, died like 5 times to this boss but it was all good.
It’s terrible though
My personal top 10 worst Soulsborne bosses....
10) Crystal Sage (Dark Souls 3)
I get that he's meant to be an easy boss being an early to mid game boss depending on your method of clearing the game, but... Heavily telegraphed attacks along with super easy tells and even in his second phase, avoiding his attacks are pretty much as simple as remembering that he has purple attacks and bum rushing him, since if you're fast enough, you can easily get to his side or back before he finishes charging his spells.
9) True King Allant (Demon's Souls)
From Software decided to pull a Final Fantasy 10 and cap off the game with a boss you have to be TRYING to die to?
8) Covetous Demon (Dark Souls 2)
Dude barely puts up much of a fight, you have to be trying to be hit by his attack and the only move he has that's of interest is the one where he eats you and unequips your gear. And he rarely uses that move!!
7) Royal Rat Vanguard (Dark Souls 2)
An overall unfair gank fight. You're stuck in a tiny room full of rat statues and the rats in the room can insta kill you with Curse.
6) Red Dragon (Demon's Souls)
Pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned.
5) Belfry Gargoyles (Dark Souls 2)
Literally just the Bell Gargoyles from 1, now with 300% more gargoyles!
4) Stray Demon (Dark Souls 1)
The Asylum Demon simply with AoE added to his attacks? Really, FromSoft....?
3) Micolash (Bloodborne)
Running away like a coward and laying traps? Really?
2) Deacons of the Deep (Dark Souls 3)
A simple room full of hollow priests who shoot easy to dodge spells at you and have a glowing light marking the one you're to hit? That seriously all?
At least throw some of that stuff in the rooms with those giants to mix it up and make it more interesting. Was one of the only bosses I actually felt incredibly bored while fighting.
1) Bed of Chaos.
Belfry Gargoyles was one of the most memorable fights in DS2, and the music is amazing.
The music is literally the exact same music as the gargoyles from ds1
@Jeff somethingsomething I only said that because OP praised the music even though it was just re-used from a much better fight from a much better game. So you can't really give it credit
I'm not going to argue that the Bed of Chaos is a good boss fight, or fun, but I don't understand why people say it's unfair. I thought it was very easy.
The roots at her sides stay broken if you die, so the fight gets shorter and shorter leaving the odds skewed in the player's favor. There are a number of places in the arena that she strait up can't hit without her pyromancy, which give you a lot of time to heal in between. This leaves the player with chances to catch their breath. Lastly, I was able to beat her while only leaping 1 time. I saw a clear rout where I could walk across without needing to jump. The only leap I had to do was to get to the root in the center, which I succeeded on my first try.
I wouldn't describe Chaos on a scale of good or bad, she's so different from every boss in the series that it just depends on how you adjust. I beat Chaos relatively stress-free, instead I felt thrilled. If the distance between her and the last bonfire wasn't so long I'd think she was actually pretty fun.
Can't wait for Godskin Duo to make it onto the Re-Remastered version of this list.
Lud and Zallen from DS2 dlc, the level the bosses all nightmare
This video shows literally no gameplay from Bloodborne and yet it's listed as the game shown in the description. Wut?
Would that mean
Any game with Souls in the title: exists
Bloodborne: *Hippity hoppity the game listed in the description box is now my property*
@@ojfioenfoinqoifnqwidnwipfn3359 yeah the game youre from sucks
He is pretty biased. And yet bloodborne has nothing to do with dark souls and is worse than all of them
The reason Bloodborne was in the description is because it was considered in the rankings. Bloodborne’s worst bosses were considered to be good enough to not be worse than these bosses, therefore not making the list.
@@wyvernslayer4530 Well that's certainly your opinion. I haven't played every single souls game, but I have played Dark Souls 1 and 3 and Bloodborne. I can confidently say I love Bloodborne the most of the three. I personally probably would have had at least one Bloodborne boss on this list (witches of Hemwick) but Bloodborne in my opinion is a masterpiece overall.
This man seriously forgot about the Royal Rat Vanguard, a boss that is literally just a regular rat with a mohawk in a room filled with other rats. The room itself isn't even a boss arena, it's just a normal mobbing area with fogwalls!
Pretty sure the gargoyles aren't on a timer it's % health based as if they all share a common hp pool and a new one comes out when you cross each threshold. So if you don't want to fight all of them then you just need to finish what you start and focus the weaker ones. Sounds like you just didn't figure this fight out.
The belfry gargoyles are like the 4 kings, while there can be a lot of them at once, only one or 2 attack you so calling it a 5 on one isn’t entirely true, I found th quite fun, at least better than ruin sentinels
You can fight all of them if you mistakenly hit an inactive one. It'll come to life and immediately attack, so it unfortunately narrows the playing field even MORE so you don't have an accident and hit the others. It's why I wind up pressured into corners so much to either side of the door, cause I'm afraid of having 5 of them gang up on me cause I stupidly hit the others lol.
Wtf? Where is Covetous Demon? The thing does nothing but flop around like a walrus.
So Jabba The Hut DS version?
The Demon Souls bridge dragon isn't even a boss
Meanwhile:
>No Skeleton Lords
>No Prowling magus and Congregation, nor the ds3 equivalent
>No Nashandra
I'm actually happy Halflight isn't optional.
I was never into PVP but I must say that by getting summoned as Spear of the Church, I really started to enjoy pvp more and more
I really enjoyed the gargoyle fight in ds2. I found it stressful at first, but it challenged me to get better at managing multiple enemies.
The worst boss is the giant triple ballista in the smouldering lake
Bed of chaos:*enters the room*
Me: wait...
I feel he forgot about ds2 completely because I see no covetous demon
You know. When I play DS2 I always, always, 1000% of the time forget Covetous Demonexists. Like. What's the point of him????? He has no story???? Like. If I remember right most bosses have some TINY purpose or visible area relation. Old Dragonslayer is in an altered version of Anor Lond's Cathedral. Royal Rat Authority/Vanguard block a covenant (which happens in DS1 too with O&S technically) Bell Gargoyles protect a key that can be used against the Sinner. Pursuer blocks an end-game location and, like Capra and Taurus before him, has non-boss counterparts. Guardian Dragon is the same way. Smelter is technically, but not practically, optional. And then there's all these bosses to reach the 4 Great Ones and you can just walk to the Rotten. Get a Silvercat, make the fall. Profit.
@@Blossemfall he does have a backstory, he had a crush on the serpent queen and used gluttony to try to appeal to her.
spear of the church is amazing! (pvp version) also where tf is one reborn
I didn't actually find the one reborn to be THAT bad. I mean the one reborn is not a good boss in any way, but he doesn't make me suicidal like these bosses (except the ones in demon's souls and dark souls 2 because I haven't actually played those games/fought any bosses in them)
Thats a lie maybe if you level 1000 Vitalaty you can survive a singel hit and then die to the stunlock followup. I got one hit by every singel Attack.
@@w.s.7567 then you have like no vigor? you do know that's one of the most important stats to level up, so obviously if you have like 15 at that point you're gonna have a bad time.
You@@filthycasul1804 realy think that I would ever Level Vigor in a souls Game? I played the other 3 the same way and it worked.
@@w.s.7567 then that's why you die in 1 hit. late game bosses deal far more damage then you have health without significant investments into vigor which is why it's so important to level up, because it allows you to make more mistakes. if you don't level vigor, you have to be completely FLAWLESS against later game bosses, and really everyone makes mistakes.
11:36 I think the best strategy for bed of chaos is if you have enough strentgh just wield havels greatshield with tho hands and put grast crest shield to your back and of course use the Havels ring .And you have to be naked for light load also some endurance required
What about that gank boss from the first Dark Souls 2 DLC?
you mean that red invader asshole that runs away into the toxic tower once he gets low on health? Oh wait, I mean the invasion in the second dlc^^
I'm glad Micolash wasn't on this list. He gets too much hate imo.
He was great. I think his fight, especially in second phase, is built to bait you into rushing after him, and then being ambushed by skeletons. I thought it was very clever.
I think he's the most atmospheric boss fight in the game. Chasing down a cackling madman through twisting foggy hallways with a score of frantic piano notes and an ethereal choir is as Lovecraftian a scenario you can get, and I just love the execution!
Thing is, to enjoy Micolash Cage's bossfight you have to either love lovecraft or be very dedicated to the lore. Hell, I love BB's lore and I still find that fight annoying. Still, it's better than celestial retards and trash on this list.
I really do appreciate the character and lore behind him, but the fight is still tedious and rather annoying.
I'm sad Micolash wasn't on this list. He gets too little hate imo.
The bed of chaos is the best boss in my opinion. Let’s face it we all love Mario you know stompin’ on goombas and the fact that they implemented platforming into a rpg was a bold move. As for the platforms of course you can’t tell which ones will fall apart which is exactly what makes the platforming so exciting because falling into a bottomless abyss with gravity being the only damage tells you that this is a fair fight. And don’t even get me started on the attacks they are so smart making you fall over to do it all over again so you can tell yourself “This is balanced I just made a mistake” because being swiped into an abyss from a sweeping attack on falling platforms is more than fair. And the pyromancer attacks actually fits the lore, and it’s firestorm which is so well balanced by the way that it’s near impossible to avoid and it keeps trying stopping you from the one shot kill. Speaking of the one shot kill holy sh*t if this ain’t a castlevania throwback then I don’t know what is. One shots are satisfying which makes this Mario platforming, well balanced pit sweeping, fantastic presenter for the lore behind this boss, such a fantastic well designed boss I doubt we’ll ever see Miyazaki deliver something like this again.
I feel like the moonlight butterfly fight is a nod to the lost children arc from berserk.
I honestly think that capra demon is a worse boss than bed of chaos because at least bed of chaos feels like a boss fight. Capra demon is barely more than a basic enemy, and if there was no fog wall, I would never even consider the idea that he is classified as a full fledged boss fight.
I’m not seeing Wolnir, the boss that’s weak point can literally get stuck in a wall, forcing you to hug said wall or die because of his abyss poison.
Monnlight butterfly theme = Aldrich theme in Dark Soul 3
Also Gywndolin's theme.