Considering all the crap in the world right now it is soothing to listen to a well oiled cooperative machine that handles mishaps without a stride lost.
@@bjrnerikmoen6529 the entire industry down to the fabric producer for the pillows is reliant on public perception that it is safe. No other industry has such a collective commitment to safety. Not even the space travel startups. Safety is important but if a major incident happened it would be upsetting but not unexpected. It would take several to damage the industry as a whole. One plane crash would destroy an airline and damage the manufacture. Bug difference.
Hahaha, as a Bostonian that’s lived in the South for decades these controllers have very mild accents. It’s there but nothing like when you get in the actual airport terminal or rental car area, holy smokes I can barely understand some of those guys and I grew up there lol.
@@JamesJamersonIsAGod • I was thinking the same thing. The ATC possibly could be a transplant, because he enunciated his R’s more than I expected. Anyway, I just love the true everyday Bostonian brogue!
Great professionalism from controllers and crew. Sounds like the services on the ground did well too, but their transmission was unreadable on this recording. Great job.
Crazy to think I was apart of the operation. Whenever we send a plane out I always have a fear that soemthing could go wrong and I never see the crew I have become friends with. Love the crew that was on board and am glad everyone was okay! Funny enough that same day delta landing at Knoxville had a similar problem.
Hey VASAviation, when you get the chance do the comms and flight track of the West Point Cessna that was intercepted flying in the UN TFR. Keep up the quality!
Depends on model, but most commercial airliners have temperature sensors on brake and wheel well.They may not have pressure sensors, but fuses that will let air out of pressure got too high from heat.
I wonder if planes have cameras yet so they can observe the landing gear while flying? Rather than having to rely on tower being able to see them, get a HD camera and a light so they can observe the landing gear and make sure it's down in cases like this.
Note about the closing screen of the video: that's *not* an evacuation, that's a fairly normal deplaning. "Evacuation" means "open all doors, deploy slides, and scram", very much unlike waiting for airstairs to conduct an orderly deplaning.
I wonder if these were two separate issues - meaning the landing gear indication was the fault and the tire happened from a heavy landing? Just a thought.
For one, they don’t have tugs ready on the side of runway. Second, we are talking about several tenth tons here, so lose an tire means aircraft may exceed load bearing surface’s specifications, aircraft need to be lighter to avoid damage to runway/taxiway and or the gear.
@@AaronShenghao Also, the right main gear is not locked, and may fully collapse at any time. They need to lift it up, secure the gear before the tow can happen.
I've flown Allegiant at least 30 times and never had any real issues- even back when they had the MD-80's. One time the captain had to divert due to severe fog and we had to remain on board the plane at the alternate for an hour as he took on fuel for reserves. Some loud mouthed passengers were the only problem.
If the right landing gear wasn't down, the plane would land on the right wing, thus resulting in a potentially life threatening situation. By declaring an emergency instead of a pan-pan, he ensures that all emergency equipment is rolled to the runway just in case. I would rather have someone declare an emergency when they don't really need to instead of not declare, have a wing strike, and have the truck roll after the fact, resulting in potential loss of life. Granted, even if the trucks were there, if the gear wasn't down and a fire ensued, there's the potential for loss of life even with the trucks right there. But, if they're staged at the runway, they'd be cleared to enter and fight the fire much faster
My guess is if the right main gear had collapsed upon landing, the loss of support could drive either the right (starboard) wingtip and/or engine pod into the ground, which could spin and/or flip the plane. It's also why the pilot told the ATC the number of souls on board and amount of fuel remaining. Thank goodness the landing gear did lock into place (but may never have indicated it) and only a tire blew.
@@Speedster___ I looked it up in the FAA regs. (They're online, so you can do that.) Emergency is considered a "distress" condition (i.e. something wrong with the plane itself or medical emergency on the plane.) Pan-Pan is declared for an "urgency" issue, like running low on fuel, hostile passenger or crew, etc. Urgency gives priority landing, but not ground services because it's not likely the plane will crash or catch on fire at some point. Emergency assumes that an adverse event on the plane will cause injury and/or loss of life, so the ATC will ask the crew what they need rolled out. Luckily, this flight crew was on top of it, and telling the ATCs what they needed without being asked. And again, thankfully it only resulted in a blown tire. The only thing the FAA may have an issue with is that the pilot didn't use Mayday in his distress call. BUT, I don't think they'll care since the ATCs and the flight crew did exactly what they needed to otherwise. www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html/chap6_section_3.html#:~:text=Urgency%20communications%20have%20priority%20over,in%20use%20at%20the%20time.
@@jackielinde7568 many thanks! I thought emergencies / May Day was solely for urgent issues that affect the aviation of the aircraft not landing. Thanks for informing tho
Well now they have brought many Afghan refugees to the US, who probably are looking for work. Maybe some of them could work as in-flight landing gear inspectors?
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Kudos to everyone involved!
Not the tyre though...
@@bengaliinplatforms1268 he didn't say everything involved lol
Considering all the crap in the world right now it is soothing to listen to a well oiled cooperative machine that handles mishaps without a stride lost.
Makes me wonder, really, why people have a fear of flying...
Airplanes may be the most organized and safest form of transport.
So true
@@bjrnerikmoen6529 the entire industry down to the fabric producer for the pillows is reliant on public perception that it is safe. No other industry has such a collective commitment to safety.
Not even the space travel startups. Safety is important but if a major incident happened it would be upsetting but not unexpected. It would take several to damage the industry as a whole. One plane crash would destroy an airline and damage the manufacture. Bug difference.
I feel safer on a plane then at home!
That's what professionalism from all involved sounds like. Good job to all. 👍
Gotta love these Boston controllers. As a lifelong Southerner, I’m enamored with their Bostonspeak. No one else in the country talks like they do❣️
Well bostoners in Birmingham do.
@@Speedster___ • I could listen to them talk about “Bah Hahbah” all day. Of course they love to hear me talk too, and you know I have to pour it on😁
Hahaha, as a Bostonian that’s lived in the South for decades these controllers have very mild accents. It’s there but nothing like when you get in the actual airport terminal or rental car area, holy smokes I can barely understand some of those guys and I grew up there lol.
@@JamesJamersonIsAGod • I was thinking the same thing. The ATC possibly could be a transplant, because he enunciated his R’s more than I expected. Anyway, I just love the true everyday Bostonian brogue!
Sooo you haven’t been to Maine?lol
Great professionalism from controllers and crew. Sounds like the services on the ground did well too, but their transmission was unreadable on this recording. Great job.
Crazy to think I was apart of the operation. Whenever we send a plane out I always have a fear that soemthing could go wrong and I never see the crew I have become friends with. Love the crew that was on board and am glad everyone was okay! Funny enough that same day delta landing at Knoxville had a similar problem.
Glad everyone exited the plane safely. Great job by the crew, controllers, and fire rescue. Thanks for posting VASA
Excellent teamwork by all involved. Safe landing! ✈✈✈
Great communication between all parties involved!
Damn the fire alarm is still blaring in the cockpit at the end, hate to hear that sound.
Nice work Victor, You have a KBOS tower picture in there!
I noticed that too. Nice detail!
CFR's gotta be careful with those airstairs. They're gonna get hop-ons.
were the passengers charged extra for deplaning on the runway?
Excellent job everyone!!! How cool is that!
Hey VASAviation, when you get the chance do the comms and flight track of the West Point Cessna that was intercepted flying in the UN TFR. Keep up the quality!
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If only ATC and pilots could rule the world!
Do planes have tire pressure sensors or is it something that they know after takeoff that a tire blew ?
Depends on model, but most commercial airliners have temperature sensors on brake and wheel well.They may not have pressure sensors, but fuses that will let air out of pressure got too high from heat.
No.
they didnt know until after they landed that the tired blew dude to the gear not coming down all the way.
I wonder if planes have cameras yet so they can observe the landing gear while flying? Rather than having to rely on tower being able to see them, get a HD camera and a light so they can observe the landing gear and make sure it's down in cases like this.
awesome video. thank you!!
331 what’s CFR? FR is fire rescue I think
I had the same question
What is Boston discrete tower in comparison to Boston tower?
Just an unused frequency at the time so it's only the emergency aircraft, ATC, fire rescue, etc without other aircraft jamming up the frequency.
Where's the spare on an A320?
I was over in Signature watching this happen
Quite an interesting channel
This company sent trip interference checks in the mail and when deposited they bounced and I have to eat a 10$ fee !!!
Would the captain make an announcement to the passengers before a landing like this? Are the souls on board "BRACE!"-ing for all they're worth?
They did tell them do brace. It just wasn’t in the recording
The recordings from inside the aircraft show that they were told to BRACE.
@@RLTtizME Let me get back to you on that. I’ll call the captain to get the deets on whether it was a mere brace or a great BRACE!!!
Note about the closing screen of the video: that's *not* an evacuation, that's a fairly normal deplaning. "Evacuation" means "open all doors, deploy slides, and scram", very much unlike waiting for airstairs to conduct an orderly deplaning.
I think it's still considered an evacuation when you have an emergency and need to deplane on the runway...
I didn’t get a emergency notification on my radar 24 …doesn’t matter hope everyone is doing great
I wonder if these were two separate issues - meaning the landing gear indication was the fault and the tire happened from a heavy landing? Just a thought.
@@tonythreepies9272 correct. Could be either.
Why not tow the aircraft to the gate?
It has a blown tire.
For one, they don’t have tugs ready on the side of runway. Second, we are talking about several tenth tons here, so lose an tire means aircraft may exceed load bearing surface’s specifications, aircraft need to be lighter to avoid damage to runway/taxiway and or the gear.
Delta Tug 2 is waiting for Kennedy Steve to give him authorization to get up there. 😬
@@davidpearson3304 we will never forget Kennedy Steve and that pesky tug!
@@AaronShenghao Also, the right main gear is not locked, and may fully collapse at any time. They need to lift it up, secure the gear before the tow can happen.
My friend flies Allegiant all the time. He says each flight is a crap shoot.
I fly them often myself and only one time had a rough landing. Of course im also not a snowflake who needs to be pampered for a four hour flight.
I haven't had a bad experience since they updated their fleet a few years back. They're pretty good, actually.
I've flown Allegiant at least 30 times and never had any real issues- even back when they had the MD-80's. One time the captain had to divert due to severe fog and we had to remain on board the plane at the alternate for an hour as he took on fuel for reserves. Some loud mouthed passengers were the only problem.
Allegiant: What do you expect for $37.00?
Why emergency and not Pan Pan?
If the right landing gear wasn't down, the plane would land on the right wing, thus resulting in a potentially life threatening situation. By declaring an emergency instead of a pan-pan, he ensures that all emergency equipment is rolled to the runway just in case.
I would rather have someone declare an emergency when they don't really need to instead of not declare, have a wing strike, and have the truck roll after the fact, resulting in potential loss of life.
Granted, even if the trucks were there, if the gear wasn't down and a fire ensued, there's the potential for loss of life even with the trucks right there. But, if they're staged at the runway, they'd be cleared to enter and fight the fire much faster
@@thomasvlaskampiii6850 do they not go to runaway even in Pan Pan if it’s landing gear related?
My guess is if the right main gear had collapsed upon landing, the loss of support could drive either the right (starboard) wingtip and/or engine pod into the ground, which could spin and/or flip the plane. It's also why the pilot told the ATC the number of souls on board and amount of fuel remaining. Thank goodness the landing gear did lock into place (but may never have indicated it) and only a tire blew.
@@Speedster___ I looked it up in the FAA regs. (They're online, so you can do that.) Emergency is considered a "distress" condition (i.e. something wrong with the plane itself or medical emergency on the plane.) Pan-Pan is declared for an "urgency" issue, like running low on fuel, hostile passenger or crew, etc. Urgency gives priority landing, but not ground services because it's not likely the plane will crash or catch on fire at some point. Emergency assumes that an adverse event on the plane will cause injury and/or loss of life, so the ATC will ask the crew what they need rolled out.
Luckily, this flight crew was on top of it, and telling the ATCs what they needed without being asked. And again, thankfully it only resulted in a blown tire. The only thing the FAA may have an issue with is that the pilot didn't use Mayday in his distress call. BUT, I don't think they'll care since the ATCs and the flight crew did exactly what they needed to otherwise.
www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html/chap6_section_3.html#:~:text=Urgency%20communications%20have%20priority%20over,in%20use%20at%20the%20time.
@@jackielinde7568 many thanks! I thought emergencies / May Day was solely for urgent issues that affect the aviation of the aircraft not landing.
Thanks for informing tho
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VAS was lol
Grow up, nobody gives a damn if you are first or hundred.
@@jnelsoninjax calm down
Well now they have brought many Afghan refugees to the US, who probably are looking for work. Maybe some of them could work as in-flight landing gear inspectors?
500 refugees so far
Ouch