Vulcans can be jerks, every bit as burdened by pride and bigotry as humans. When you've got a Vulcan who's better than that - say, Spock or Tuvok - they're pretty great people. But it seems most Vulcans are not better than that.
They were all great in their own ways, but this is the one I always think of with the animated series, it had the closest lineage to the original series IMO
Paramount changed the whole status of TAS circa 2000. As of then, TAS was considered and still is canon to this day. Gene Roddenberry was long dead by then and Majel Barrett-Roddenberry signed off on Paramount's decision. Upon Gene's death, canon required Paramount's say so and required Majel's assent. Most of the time she gave her assent. I think their son has a similar arrangement now that they're both gone.
I always felt that the 2 seasons of TAS to be the closing years of Enterprise's 5 year mission. Even though there were only 22 episodes in the series, they would have concluded Kirk & crew's first hitch.
@@williamhaynes4800 And your feeling is correct, many of the scripts used in TAS were from what would have been Season 4 and 5 of TOS. The actors, writers, producers were all from the TOS creative team, and Roddenberry himself signed off and over saw production. So in a very real sense, yes, TAS is season 4 and 5 of TOS and the end of the 5 year mission.
@@AgentExeider There were some excellent scripts in TAS, (The Slaver Weapon, The Counter Clock Incident, The Jihad, The Pirates of Orion and Yester Year are my favorites) but it didn't feel like total ST with absence of Walter- Mr. Chekov-Koenig at the navigation station.
I have often suggested these book by Alan Dean Foster for anyone who isn't sure about TAS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Log_(book_series) I, personally, enjoyed ADF's adaptation of the scripts to novelizations and a few additional short stories of his own creation. Many of them can still be found at conventions around the country or in pdf or eBook forms. They even some times appear on Amazon if you are lucky.
I emailed the actor who portrayed young Spock in real life. Very nice guy He let me know that ‘I Chaya’ is pronounced the way it is pronounced in the cartoon since he mispronounced it on rehearsal and the producers used the rehearsal recordings with him for the making of this episode
@@mego73 Supposedly the producers wanted to save money by having James Doohan and Majel Barrett do a variety of voices, including Sulu and Uhura. Leonard Nimoy intervened and said he wouldn’t do the series unless all of the original actors were hired.
This is the best pre TNG Star Trek episode by far. It's the one that made me a fan for life when it originally aired. It's called Yesteryear, season one episode two.
@@mog398 I would say it's one of the best, also because It's used as a point of reference when it comes to depicting Vulcan, in fact the city refered in this episode, even it's design are used when they remastered and updated the graphics for the TOS episode where Spock goes through his Pon Farr, and in Enterprise where the city is refereed to by name. In short Yesteryear developed Vulcan in such a way it becomes a touch stone for future depictions OF Vulcan.
"Dot" Fontana actually wrote this installment, incorporating "The Guardian Of Forever" from "The City On The Edge Of Forever" into its plot. TAKE THAT, "Cordwainer BirdDroppings!!!"
Aren’t those other children being emotional in teasing Spock? I mean hate, aggression, arrogance, are all necessary for the things they’re doing. To insult him for not acting as a Vulcan while not acting as a Vulcan yourself is...illogical
Because Vulcans are not truly void of emotion. They practice denial of emotion as an ideology. But, this denial of emotion is ideology only, not reality. The reality is that they become masters of self-restraint, thus allowing logic to be at the forefront in their way of life.
@@ffn8917 Mark Lenard [I was wrong about the “o”] played Sarek, Spock’s father, in The Original Series, The Animated Series (voice), Star Trek III, IV and VI as well as 2 episodes of TNG.
@@jennifersman7990 Animation allowed them to tell stories that money and technology of the '70s would have prevented; Beyond the Farthest Star and The Time Trap are two good examples. It truly is a "fourth season" of TOS, and thanks to AI-powered video, they could make a fifth...if they could get approval from the various estates. OTOH, a fan project can do nicely as well, but it takes a lot of love and smarts to write and produce a really good episode, especially with the constraints currently imposed on such fan works by Paramount/CBS (*boo.*)
Star Trek at its best. Written by DC Fontana. A great story of what we call today: a Temporal Paradox. Mind bending for the early 70's and a beautiful story too only capable of Roddenberry.
actually Spock moved his lower lip while speaking , yes that's an important detail. (and Picard did it as well - I'm wondering, do all the good actors speak like this?)
0:48 -"I regret that you are witness to that unfortunate display on of emotion on the part of my son." What about the other kids? They were all displaying emotion. And why is that? Do Vulcans not learn to control their emotions until they are older?
Vulcans adopted the discipline of logic to control their inherently strong emotions which brought them many wars and hardships before they chose the discipline of logic. Violence for mellenia longer than in human culture were cited and in the TOS episode Balance if Terror, Spock warned they needed to be extremely cautious if the Romulans were indeed a branch from Vulcan's warring past. Having their children be egregiously emotional is to be expected, it's just as with all minorities whether their differences were visible or just well known in human culture, much more was expected of Spock.
@@johnwang9914 Before starting Vuccan kindergarten, Vulcan children should have already been trained in preliminary control of emotions. In Vulcan nursery school and pre-kindergarten, they should have been taught that showing emotion was "in bad taste," plus the parents would be teaching this before, during and after they taught their children to walk. Especially before the child turned seven! BTW, why did Sarek almost totally reject Spock when Spock was born, remarking that the newborn was "too human"? Did he expect Spock to be in control of his emotions at birth? Why did the Ambassador's wife give birth in a cave? That entire scene in ST V was illogical. Some will argue the entire movie was :)
yo so think about this. Salek(Spock) grew up with his dog and all was happy because the OG Salek managed to save young Spock without the dog dying. Well now, Salek(Spock) comes and messes up and his dog dies as a result. Young Spock has to deal with his dog's death. OK so here's the trippy part. That young Spock who's dog dies? He grows up to be the OG Salek who manages to save himself AND the dog (using his childhood memories) and so the Spock who the OG Salek saves grows up in a world where his dog never died and therefore lacks the memories to save his dog when he becomes Salek. So its a loop, Spock saves himself every time, and saves his dog only every other time.
@@SpiritBear12 I know im replying to a comment from 2 years ago but like, ya ever heard of a metaphor? Also, a sehlat is basically a giant sabertoothed dog. just look at it
@@yourmomsfilms You called a species by its wrong name (intentionally), and later claimed to have done so metaphorically. This demonstrates you clearly do not understand metaphors, nor do you realize how foolish you appear trying to defend an intentional mistake by calling it a metaphor. Good one, Taserface.
This series had some really well-written episodes, even though it had a dirt cheap production budget. Here's the synopsis for this episode. Compare the writing here to an entire JJTrek movie or an STD episode. *Spoilers beyond this point:* On stardate 5373.4, Captain Kirk and Spock return from a time-traveling research project they have been conducting with the use of the Guardian of Forever and Starfleet historians. When they emerge from the portal, they discover that no one on board the Federation starship Enterprise recognizes Spock. Kirk and Spock are further surprised to see that an Andorian officer, Commander Thelin, has replaced Spock as first officer. In the new timeline, history has recorded that Spock died at age seven undergoing the Kahs-wan ordeal on Vulcan. However, Spock remembers that when he took the Kahs-wan, his life was saved by Selek - an adult relative - when a desert creature with poisonous claws called a le-matya had attacked them. While Kirk and Spock were in the portal, the Guardian and historians had run a scan of recent Vulcan history. The pair quickly realize that as they were observing the birth of Orion at the time, Spock could not have been in two places at once to save himself as a child. Spock must go back through the time gate to his childhood, and save the life of the child he was. For his part, Thelin is supportive of Spock's efforts despite its consequences on his own existence and the officers respectfully wish each other long and prosperous lives in whatever circumstances the hopefully repaired timeline would put them in. At first, this proceeds smoothly: Spock assumes the identity of Selek, a distant cousin of Sarek, and is welcomed into the home of Sarek and Amanda Grayson.[note 2] "Selek" journeys into the desert to find his younger self, and saves the boy. However, I Chaya - Spock's pet sehlat - has been gravely wounded and "Selek" sends the younger Spock back to fetch a Healer. Spock returns with the Healer who tends to I Chaya and informs Selek and Spock that there is nothing he can do. Young Spock is offered a choice: either I Chaya can be treated with medicines (but will still die slowly in obvious pain) or his pet can be allowed to die quickly with dignity. Young Spock chooses the latter, and I Chaya dies peacefully. By making this choice, Spock has thus chosen the Vulcan way of life - logic and emotional control - and his elder self, successful in repairing history, returns to the restored present day, but not before teaching his younger self how to perform the Vulcan nerve pinch.
Probably more so than humans. Because they see themselves as socially evolved above other humanoid species, this leads to an attitude of elitism. Even Spock is guilty of this same elitism as he often comments on how inferior and illogical humans are. I still like Spock, though. And I think the Vulcan way of life is cool, but still has some flaws, nevertheless.
And let's not forget their Flash Gordon animated movie "The Greatest Adventure Of All", considered by fans and critics alike as their finest work... and waaay beter than the series that followed (produced by Filmation as well)
@@alexcordero8432 Agreed. Unfortunately the powers that be for Saturday Morning cartoons would have never allowed the original Flash Gordon movie to be shown. But if my memory is correct the original movie was shown in primetime on a Saturday night.
Understand that part of the appeal of this series at its Stateside TV premiere run was its apparently going out of its way to get the original actors involved, not to mention Roddenberry and some of the original series writers. This particular episode is arguably the best of TAS. Note among other things it was written by D. C. Fontana; I believe she also served as TAS's associate producer and story editor.
He DID! Proving TAS was indeed CANON. (Along with quite a few other things like, Kirk's middle name, Sulu's 1st name, Klingon emblem, Holodeck... I could go on, but won't!)
Sarek: "My apologies visitor, I regret you're witness to that unfortunate display of emotion on the part of my son." um, what about the display of emotion by the other kids? They didn't seem to be acting all that logical and unemotional to me.
I always thought that Spock ‘forgetting’ how he came to be out in the desert before his ‘kahs-wan’ kind of a plot hole. How can a Vulcan forget? Or did his human side repress that emotion because of the painful loss of his pet sehlat…?
I can't remember the actor's name but it is mentioned in the text commentary that accompanies this episode on DVD. Supposedly, he auditioned for this role with a tape recorder.
Would be nice if someone could try. But much of that show is tied up by copyright. Maybe a new set of stories. And as far as animation goes, maybe GAINAX?
I doubt Spock would've been idiot enough to have worn his Starfleet tunic, under that robe. With it still as visible as it is, he certainly wouldn't have wanted it being seen--especially by his father--as it could contaminate the timeline, thus negating his purpose in journeying back then, in the first place. The animator(s) definitely goofed up, there.
Those Vulcan kids- weren't they displaying emotion? And the Vulcans worship gods? Would not having just one god be more logical and economical? At least they got Mark Leonard to reprise his role.
IT"S A SHAME I CHYA THE SEHLAT (SPOCKS PET) IS KILLED TRYING TO SAVE YOUNG SPOCK ! ADULT SPOCK SHOULD HAVE KILLED THE DRAGON-LIKE CREATURE THAT KILLED YOUNG SPOCKS SEHLAT !
yo so think about this. Salek(Spock) grew up with his dog and all was happy because the OG Salek managed to save young Spock without the dog dying. Well now, Salek(Spock) comes and messes up and his dog dies as a result. Young Spock has to deal with his dog's death. OK so here's the trippy part. That young Spock who's dog dies? He grows up to be the OG Salek who manages to save himself AND the dog (using his childhood memories) and so the Spock who the OG Salek saves grows up in a world where his dog never died and therefore lacks the memories to save his dog when he becomes Salek. So its a loop, Spock saves himself every time, and saves his dog only every other time.
What always seemed strange to me is that the boys bullying little Spock were displaying even more emotion that he was..
Also his father is calling him by his last name
the act of bullying is also illogical. But they need the conflict to tell the story so
They're also not his children and not within his control. His son however, is his responsibility.
Vulcans can be jerks, every bit as burdened by pride and bigotry as humans. When you've got a Vulcan who's better than that - say, Spock or Tuvok - they're pretty great people. But it seems most Vulcans are not better than that.
Does anyone know what young spocks first name is ?
"Yesteryear" is by a pretty wide margin the best Episode of TAS.
Yes, probably my favorite too. It was one of the few that really cross-referenced an original series episode ("City on the Edge of Forever")
The Slaver Weapon and The Pirates of Orion are better episodes, in my opinion.
They were all great in their own ways, but this is the one I always think of with the animated series, it had the closest lineage to the original series IMO
"Beyond the Farthest Star" is the episode of TAS I remember the most often.
Schwatvogel Part of it is Mark Leonard as Sarek. A different actor would have mattered.
The only episode of the animated series that Roddenberry was happy to consider canon.
Paramount changed the whole status of TAS circa 2000. As of then, TAS was considered and still is canon to this day. Gene Roddenberry was long dead by then and Majel Barrett-Roddenberry signed off on Paramount's decision. Upon Gene's death, canon required Paramount's say so and required Majel's assent. Most of the time she gave her assent. I think their son has a similar arrangement now that they're both gone.
Trust me. Roddenberry couldn't have cared less.
I always felt that the 2 seasons of TAS to be the closing years of Enterprise's 5 year mission. Even though there were only 22 episodes in the series, they would have concluded Kirk & crew's first hitch.
@@williamhaynes4800 And your feeling is correct, many of the scripts used in TAS were from what would have been Season 4 and 5 of TOS. The actors, writers, producers were all from the TOS creative team, and Roddenberry himself signed off and over saw production. So in a very real sense, yes, TAS is season 4 and 5 of TOS and the end of the 5 year mission.
@@AgentExeider
There were some excellent scripts in TAS, (The Slaver Weapon, The Counter Clock Incident, The Jihad, The Pirates of Orion and Yester Year are my favorites) but it didn't feel like total ST with absence of Walter- Mr. Chekov-Koenig at the navigation station.
As cheesy as this series is, I love how it develops the world of "Star Trek, " and I really like the Vulcan architecture here!
Honestly, i dont find it cheesy. I mean Saturday Morning cartoon, sure, but I never thought it cheesy. It's pretty good writing.
the animation may have been unsophisticated. But many scripts were gems.
I have often suggested these book by Alan Dean Foster for anyone who isn't sure about TAS.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Log_(book_series)
I, personally, enjoyed ADF's adaptation of the scripts to novelizations and a few additional short stories of his own creation.
Many of them can still be found at conventions around the country or in pdf or eBook forms. They even some times appear on Amazon if you are lucky.
I emailed the actor who portrayed young Spock in real life. Very nice guy He let me know that ‘I Chaya’ is pronounced the way it is pronounced in the cartoon since he mispronounced it on rehearsal and the producers used the rehearsal recordings with him for the making of this episode
I finally got to see Spock’s “teddy bear” 🙂
A sehlat named I -Chaya.
Amanda said Spock was very fond of him
Awesome! They got Mark Lenard to do the voice of Sarek.
Is this a joke? If not, uh…
Who’s gonna tell him?
@@kezkriune Tell him what?
Yes Mark Leonard did the voice apparently it was a last minute thing because Jimmy Doohan remembers recording voice tracks for Sarek.
@@mego73 Supposedly the producers wanted to save money by having James Doohan and Majel Barrett do a variety of voices, including Sulu and Uhura. Leonard Nimoy intervened and said he wouldn’t do the series unless all of the original actors were hired.
Alas, Lou Scheimer, Norm Prescott, and Hal Sutherland were NOT successful in recruiting Jane Wyatt to provide the voice of Dr. Amanda Stemple-Grayson!
This is the best pre TNG Star Trek episode by far. It's the one that made me a fan for life when it originally aired. It's called Yesteryear, season one episode two.
I don't know about THE best, but I definitely hold it up there with City of the Edge of Forever and Balance of Terror
@@mog398 I would say it's one of the best, also because It's used as a point of reference when it comes to depicting Vulcan, in fact the city refered in this episode, even it's design are used when they remastered and updated the graphics for the TOS episode where Spock goes through his Pon Farr, and in Enterprise where the city is refereed to by name. In short Yesteryear developed Vulcan in such a way it becomes a touch stone for future depictions OF Vulcan.
"Dot" Fontana actually wrote this installment, incorporating "The Guardian Of Forever" from "The City On The Edge Of Forever" into its plot.
TAKE THAT, "Cordwainer BirdDroppings!!!"
Aren’t those other children being emotional in teasing Spock? I mean hate, aggression, arrogance, are all necessary for the things they’re doing. To insult him for not acting as a Vulcan while not acting as a Vulcan yourself is...illogical
They are children and hopefully they grow up to be adults who don’t succumb to such childish behavior. Sadly, for many, they do not.
A logical observation
Vulcans aren't born logical. They are taught to be that way. These young kids haven't had that training yetm
Because Vulcans are not truly void of emotion. They practice denial of emotion as an ideology. But, this denial of emotion is ideology only, not reality. The reality is that they become masters of self-restraint, thus allowing logic to be at the forefront in their way of life.
That’s the worst part about bullies, their hypocrisy.
The Vulcan kids seem very emotional as well
They’re hypocrites too.
@@ArmyJames Agree
@@robertpreston2220 That’s the worst part about bullies - their hypocrisy.
Mark Lenard is sorely missed.
As is the “o” in his last name.
Whos that
@@ffn8917 Mark Lenard [I was wrong about the “o”] played Sarek, Spock’s father, in The Original Series, The Animated Series (voice), Star Trek III, IV and VI as well as 2 episodes of TNG.
Quite possibly the best of all the animated episodes.
The greatest animated sci-fi episode ever made.
Very fascinating how they continued with the original series and bringing that into animation. Incredible.
That and using the original writers and actors
@@jennifersman7990 Animation allowed them to tell stories that money and technology of the '70s would have prevented; Beyond the Farthest Star and The Time Trap are two good examples. It truly is a "fourth season" of TOS, and thanks to AI-powered video, they could make a fifth...if they could get approval from the various estates.
OTOH, a fan project can do nicely as well, but it takes a lot of love and smarts to write and produce a really good episode, especially with the constraints currently imposed on such fan works by Paramount/CBS (*boo.*)
Star Trek at its best. Written by DC Fontana. A great story of what we call today: a Temporal Paradox. Mind bending for the early 70's and a beautiful story too only capable of Roddenberry.
actually Spock moved his lower lip while speaking , yes that's an important detail. (and Picard did it as well - I'm wondering, do all the good actors speak like this?)
My name is Selek, Tom Selek.
Welcome, Tom Selek of Hawaii. Will you break your journey with us?
Tom Selleck*
0:48 -"I regret that you are witness to that unfortunate display on of emotion on the part of my son." What about the other kids? They were all displaying emotion. And why is that? Do Vulcans not learn to control their emotions until they are older?
+Monkof Magnesia Vulcan boys go through the "terrible twos" at age 7.
+Shaden0040; "It is not logical, but it is often true." Spock would have said, "... it is often two," as he loved a good pun.
Personal responsibility. It is the Vulcan belief that when you are provoked to action, you are responsible for those actions.
Vulcans adopted the discipline of logic to control their inherently strong emotions which brought them many wars and hardships before they chose the discipline of logic. Violence for mellenia longer than in human culture were cited and in the TOS episode Balance if Terror, Spock warned they needed to be extremely cautious if the Romulans were indeed a branch from Vulcan's warring past. Having their children be egregiously emotional is to be expected, it's just as with all minorities whether their differences were visible or just well known in human culture, much more was expected of Spock.
@@johnwang9914 Before starting Vuccan kindergarten, Vulcan children should have already been trained in preliminary control of emotions. In Vulcan nursery school and pre-kindergarten, they should have been taught that showing emotion was "in bad taste," plus the parents would be teaching this before, during and after they taught their children to walk. Especially before the child turned seven! BTW, why did Sarek almost totally reject Spock when Spock was born, remarking that the newborn was "too human"? Did he expect Spock to be in control of his emotions at birth? Why did the Ambassador's wife give birth in a cave? That entire scene in ST V was illogical. Some will argue the entire movie was :)
yo so think about this. Salek(Spock) grew up with his dog and all was happy because the OG Salek managed to save young Spock without the dog dying. Well now, Salek(Spock) comes and messes up and his dog dies as a result. Young Spock has to deal with his dog's death. OK so here's the trippy part. That young Spock who's dog dies? He grows up to be the OG Salek who manages to save himself AND the dog (using his childhood memories) and so the Spock who the OG Salek saves grows up in a world where his dog never died and therefore lacks the memories to save his dog when he becomes Salek. So its a loop, Spock saves himself every time, and saves his dog only every other time.
It's a Sehlat, not a dog.
OMG
@@SpiritBear12 I know im replying to a comment from 2 years ago but like, ya ever heard of a metaphor? Also, a sehlat is basically a giant sabertoothed dog. just look at it
@@yourmomsfilms You called a species by its wrong name (intentionally), and later claimed to have done so metaphorically.
This demonstrates you clearly do not understand metaphors, nor do you realize how foolish you appear trying to defend an intentional mistake by calling it a metaphor.
Good one, Taserface.
"Not if your heart and spirit are Vulcan." OUCH!
0:45 What about the even more unfortunate display of emotion on the part of the bullies?
Boots, Bandeleros, and Speedos for Vulcan Kids? YEEESH!
All Hail Dorothy C. Fontana for doing it write!
Filmation has really crafted this series.
I really liked this series when I was a kid. As I remember, this episode has a sad ending to it.
I have this episode recorded and still have it. It is when he lost his pet who fought a monsterous beast that was venomous.
Exactly. Hey, if you post it, I'll watch it. I'm experimenting to see how my memory works, IF it works the way I remember it.
Let's just say Spock's Teddy Bear pet (first mentioned in "The Journey To Babel") doesn't have a kind fate...
True. Gets killed by something that sounds like Godzilla.
Yeah that's where the sound effects came from. Just watched the entire series on blu-ray.
This series had some really well-written episodes, even though it had a dirt cheap production budget. Here's the synopsis for this episode. Compare the writing here to an entire JJTrek movie or an STD episode.
*Spoilers beyond this point:*
On stardate 5373.4, Captain Kirk and Spock return from a time-traveling research project they have been conducting with the use of the Guardian of Forever and Starfleet historians. When they emerge from the portal, they discover that no one on board the Federation starship Enterprise recognizes Spock. Kirk and Spock are further surprised to see that an Andorian officer, Commander Thelin, has replaced Spock as first officer.
In the new timeline, history has recorded that Spock died at age seven undergoing the Kahs-wan ordeal on Vulcan. However, Spock remembers that when he took the Kahs-wan, his life was saved by Selek - an adult relative - when a desert creature with poisonous claws called a le-matya had attacked them. While Kirk and Spock were in the portal, the Guardian and historians had run a scan of recent Vulcan history. The pair quickly realize that as they were observing the birth of Orion at the time, Spock could not have been in two places at once to save himself as a child. Spock must go back through the time gate to his childhood, and save the life of the child he was. For his part, Thelin is supportive of Spock's efforts despite its consequences on his own existence and the officers respectfully wish each other long and prosperous lives in whatever circumstances the hopefully repaired timeline would put them in.
At first, this proceeds smoothly: Spock assumes the identity of Selek, a distant cousin of Sarek, and is welcomed into the home of Sarek and Amanda Grayson.[note 2] "Selek" journeys into the desert to find his younger self, and saves the boy. However, I Chaya - Spock's pet sehlat - has been gravely wounded and "Selek" sends the younger Spock back to fetch a Healer. Spock returns with the Healer who tends to I Chaya and informs Selek and Spock that there is nothing he can do. Young Spock is offered a choice: either I Chaya can be treated with medicines (but will still die slowly in obvious pain) or his pet can be allowed to die quickly with dignity. Young Spock chooses the latter, and I Chaya dies peacefully. By making this choice, Spock has thus chosen the Vulcan way of life - logic and emotional control - and his elder self, successful in repairing history, returns to the restored present day, but not before teaching his younger self how to perform the Vulcan nerve pinch.
Didn't they re-use this scene in the JJ Abrams movie?
The school part.
It’s better handled here.
Even Vulcan children can be cruel
Probably more so than humans. Because they see themselves as socially evolved above other humanoid species, this leads to an attitude of elitism. Even Spock is guilty of this same elitism as he often comments on how inferior and illogical humans are. I still like Spock, though. And I think the Vulcan way of life is cool, but still has some flaws, nevertheless.
A well-written animated series, and undoubtedly the best thing the Filmation Studios ever did.
Star Trek had it's moments, but He-Man And The Masters Of The Universe & She-Ra: Princess Of Power are the best cartoons Filmation ever made.
And let's not forget their Flash Gordon animated movie "The Greatest Adventure Of All", considered by fans and critics alike as their finest work... and waaay beter than the series that followed (produced by Filmation as well)
@@alexcordero8432 Agreed. Unfortunately the powers that be for Saturday Morning cartoons would have never allowed the original Flash Gordon movie to be shown. But if my memory is correct the original movie was shown in primetime on a Saturday night.
Interesting how the opening of the scene was replayed almost verbatim in the 2009 Abrams film.
Vulcan's "Logic" can be shown bogus through simple Reason.
Understand that part of the appeal of this series at its Stateside TV premiere run was its apparently going out of its way to get the original actors involved, not to mention Roddenberry and some of the original series writers. This particular episode is arguably the best of TAS. Note among other things it was written by D. C. Fontana; I believe she also served as TAS's associate producer and story editor.
J.J Abrums must have see this episode of the animated series, because some of it was used when we meet up with young Spock.
He DID! Proving TAS was indeed CANON. (Along with quite a few other things like, Kirk's middle name, Sulu's 1st name, Klingon emblem, Holodeck... I could go on, but won't!)
Shame they had to go with the “your mama’s a whore” insult instead what they did here.
This would have been awesome in live action.
Part of it was. The scene of young Spock being bullied was re-enacted in J. J. Abrams' Star Trek movie.
In School Vulcan
I wish the Animated episodes of Star Trek were easily to buy or rent on iTunes or RUclips..
Why didn't the ever-logical Sarek notice the Star Fleet uniform under Selek-Spock's robe?
or that he was talking to a human/vulcan hybrid.
Starfleet had those sweater uniforms during this time period.
Little Spock's voice 😆😆😆😆😆
Yes father.
Sarek: "My apologies visitor, I regret you're witness to that unfortunate display of emotion on the part of my son."
um, what about the display of emotion by the other kids? They didn't seem to be acting all that logical and unemotional to me.
KUUURWA SPOOOCK
I remember This Star Trek cartoon Esp.
I love Star Trek. 🌟
CLASSIC EPISODE ! YESTERYEAR . STAR TREK THE ANIMATED SERIES .
so this is where star trek discovery got there back story for spocks child hood aswell as jj's treck
any show could an should be animated it's cool and they could get very busy
"You're a Tuh-RAN, Spock!" Wasn't there anyone on-staff competent enough to coach the young actor as to the proper pronunciation of the word "Terran"?
zoppie I heard a trans 😂😂😂
Pronounce it right unknown actor
Vulcanian ACCENT perhaps?
his rations were logically withheld upon finishing the day's recording
EARTHER!
those Vulcan bullies are such jerks
Mark Lenard’s voice🤤
I always thought that Spock ‘forgetting’ how he came to be out in the desert before his ‘kahs-wan’ kind of a plot hole. How can a Vulcan forget? Or did his human side repress that emotion because of the painful loss of his pet sehlat…?
I sure this has to do with time travel.
@0:59 it would be like if I went back in time a said to my Father. Live long and Prosper Bill Notice of Earth? What a greeting.
Why does nobody punish the bullying? And why don't those purple skimmers whizzing down the very narrow streets bowl people over like ninepins?
can anybody tell me who voices the young Spock... It sounds like a Peanuts character
It's Shirely Temple
haha....
I can't remember the actor's name but it is mentioned in the text commentary that accompanies this episode on DVD. Supposedly, he auditioned for this role with a tape recorder.
www.imdb.com/name/nm0800916/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t9
True Review He sounds like a child. i don't know what else u expected
To bad they cannot animate Twilight Zone.
Would be nice if someone could try. But much of that show is tied up by copyright.
Maybe a new set of stories. And as far as animation goes, maybe GAINAX?
Vulcans had "Jetson Mobiles?"
You can hear lonard nimoy chain smoking.
The animated version was written by the same people so it is so much better than crappy spin offs. Same actors too.
The one kid on the end looks like Moe Howard.
I doubt Spock would've been idiot enough to have worn his Starfleet tunic, under that robe. With it still as visible as it is, he certainly wouldn't have wanted it being seen--especially by his father--as it could contaminate the timeline, thus negating his purpose in journeying back then, in the first place. The animator(s) definitely goofed up, there.
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Those Vulcan children don't seem to be exhibiting the character traits they claim Spock is lacking.
I love this it reminds me of space heroes from Tmnt
No Reminds Me Rival Of Hanna Barbera
Amazing. I didn't know Beavis & Butthead were Vulcans!
I remember this episode quite well!👩🚀👽🛸⭐🌟🌑🌕
Those Vulcan kids- weren't they displaying emotion? And the Vulcans worship gods? Would not having just one god be more logical and economical? At least they got Mark Leonard to reprise his role.
Sorry Jane Wyatt was not available during the filming of this episode.
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.30-.45 BULLYING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME !
Amanda realised who Spock was, but Sarek didn't.
Space ships fly around and through the house
Why do Vulcan Children dress like space Conan
I assume whoever designed those outfits was going for a Spartan look, but yeah, that has not aged well. :)
So, where is Spock’s sister during this?
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This Is Original JJ Abrams
Who dresses the kids? Catholic priest?
Vulcans have no war? Except with the Andorians.
The last time the Vulcans had a fight with the Andorians the Vulcan High Command was disbanded and the Vulcans weren't very happy about that.
Why does Spock's mother look so middle aged and he's just a child???
Vulcans do live longer and age more slowly than humans. Young Spock was 7 Vulcan years old, but who knows how Vulcan years compare to Human years?
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And where is Micky Spock?
Vulcan never lie?
The Animation Is Rival Of Hanna Barbera
How could Vulcans honor their guards?
IT"S A SHAME I CHYA THE SEHLAT (SPOCKS PET) IS KILLED TRYING TO SAVE YOUNG SPOCK !
ADULT SPOCK SHOULD HAVE KILLED THE DRAGON-LIKE CREATURE THAT KILLED YOUNG SPOCKS SEHLAT !
+JAVIER THE LEGEND Vulcans do not kill just to kill even to protect. If stunning can do the same thing.
yo so think about this. Salek(Spock) grew up with his dog and all was happy because the OG Salek managed to save young Spock without the dog dying. Well now, Salek(Spock) comes and messes up and his dog dies as a result. Young Spock has to deal with his dog's death. OK so here's the trippy part. That young Spock who's dog dies? He grows up to be the OG Salek who manages to save himself AND the dog (using his childhood memories) and so the Spock who the OG Salek saves grows up in a world where his dog never died and therefore lacks the memories to save his dog when he becomes Salek. So its a loop, Spock saves himself every time, and saves his dog only every other time.
the kids picking on spock didnt help either . cbs . please show the whoe episode !!!
Illogical indeed! Are the pointed ears really the Vulcan equivalent of the pointed hats?! 😠
The stardate stated by Spock is a palindrome.
Why do the Vulcans remind me of the Buddhists in the TV series Kung Fu?
there are some simularities
As an species which love logic still believe in religion dellusion.
I hate modern Trek. I quit Discovery after the first season. Did they ever explain why Burnham isn't here, in this episode?
So where is Spock' s Sister Burnham?
And the bully scene was recreated in the J.J. Abrams 2009 Star Trek movie.