They honestly just need to revert back to how Tiger Woods was back in the day. 2003 and 2004 were probably the most fun as they weren’t too serious. Loads of random golfers to play as and having the boost and spin was great
@@mudafukrjonez4262 it is. And it's every video game, just set up a system that makes replayability paramount. That's what made elden ring great, that's what made the early '00s tiger games great. Neither made their money on microtransactions, they made it on a well built game with different ways to play and rewarded replaying at a high level. These bear bone game designer's need to learn that.
That's funny you say that. I think the first Tiger game I got was 02 or 03 whenever they added the analog swing. I don't think there was even 10 coarses and a good portion of them were fake but we had a blast with that game. We all went through the career mode because that golfer was slightly better than Tiger. We played hard core. There doesn't seem to be a game like that anymore.
What I don’t understand is - how this game, nba 2k and wwe 2k can all be under the 2k umbrella but have vastly varying degrees of customisation. WWE is easily the best when it comes to it, but PGA is terrible in regards to myplayer character builds and and look
I’m not a huge fan of sports games, let alone golf games, but I got this game for free on the PSN store as I’m a PS plus member. I haven’t been able to put it down! I’m having a blast playing through the career mode, winning tournaments and working my way up the ladder. I think 2K got a lot right with this game , and they’ve made a golf game, of all games, fun to play. 8/10 for me
Bottom line - to people that have tried both 2k21 and 2k23, is it even worth upgrading if we already have '21? Or are the two games still similar enough that we might as well stay with '21 if we've already got it? Feedback welcome
There's only one thing I care about. I want to sit on the sofa with a friend and for us BOTH to be able to log in to our own profiles and play together. Something that's been missing from ALL golf games since the Xbox 360 games. Now, player 2 is forced to be a 'Guest' and cannot unlock achievements or retain any statistics whatsoever. Pathetic.
Same stupidity on Tekken 7 & other games. They make ZERO effort when it comes to multiplayer. And this is a FIGHTING GAME we are talking about. Who buys fighting games to play solo?? They act like we are still on Covid lockdowns & trying to discourage us from ever having human contact again.
They need to add ranked play in matchmaking for this game and an option in the settings to “reset calibration” at any time to reset the swing calibration to the games default.
just played it yesterday for the first time and I think 2k21 is much better regarding the gameplay, 2K21 seems so much smoother with the controls and i'm slicing my drives every hole in this game. it generally seems to suck
Thanks for the review. Same old HB engine with the same issues. A bit too sensitive on the swing, Having the player twitch just as you swing and I assume anyone you play against off line is a guest and gets no experience points. I just do not understand why these issues are still in the game. It really needs several degrees of difficulty to chose from when you start playing the game. This had to potential to be the best golf game ever. But for me it is too inconsistent and in reality, limited to a single player on line experience.
I love this game but its a budget 2k title. They paid a budget studio to make it. Not bad but charging 60 is kinda crazy when you can go get "the golf club 2019" or "2k21" for dirt cheap for the same game. I know theres new stuff but the graphics and the weird announcer glitches ive been having and the lackluster announcer presentation makes me keep going back to "ea sports pga tour" more often for the immersion. But atleast you guys hired someone competent to review this game and not whoever they picked at IGN who clearly never played a golf game before.
Honestly don't know who would pay full price for these games, this looks like it's basically an add on for 2k21. The dry, slow and underdeveloped commentary, combined with overly repetitive game play and plastic mannequin looking crowds are hugely underwhelming and combine to make a really dull gameplay experience. For me I'll wait to see what the upcoming EA golf game will be like. Surely it will be a breathe of fresh air.
The game mechanics dont make sense and are broken, ive a few steep uphill shots and no matter if i club up or down the ball just completely soars past the green, same thing with sand and rough
I really like this is a overall step up from PGA 2k21. My only huge gripe is the game freezing after I hit my tee shot, it happens multiple times in a gaming sessions and makes it very irritating to play 👎. It that get fixed in the next update I'll be a happy golfer
@@sonichallbartender There was an update patch put out last week that fixed the freezing and crashing. The only thing they didn't fix is sometimes when I start a match in careers mode it resets my golf clubs back to the default ones you start with, it's not a huge deal and doesn't affect the gameplay. I played it for a few hours last night and the only issue I had was going back and fixing my clubs
@@funkyflightsI think it’s definitely worth it. The single player career mode is fun. The online multiplayer is also a blast. I got it for free so I can’t complain lol . Overall fantastic game imo
On 360 sure. Ps2 fuck no as far as 09 and 10 are concerned. All seriousness, 2k can't create golf games. Leave that to EA. I don't think EA will ever get back to their peak which was Tiger Woods 2005
am playing 2k23 now, am very confused about clubs. Are they cosmetic only? i was awared some TGC zero sum irons, and for the life of me i cannot compare their stats to the default ones... it appears i can equip them, but the stats do not change. what am i missing?
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Don't forget the issue with the pin being in the hole when you putt. That is absolutely not allowed, unless the pin is attended by your caddie. I have missed putts that were 5ft away just by hitting the pin with barely any speed on the ball... I also completely agree with the inconsistency in shots. People can have slow swing speeds and still smash the ball, speed has little to do with going right or left. The player creation system leaves a lot to be desired as well. I have seen better in games that are a decade older... Instead of Golf games getting better, they seem to be declining. I also expected the game and models to be much better looking on PS5, in 4k.
@@thechronomage5605 Under the old rules, if you putted into a cup with the flag still in, it was a penalty on you. Not anymore. The 2019 edition of the Rules of Golf removed that old rule. Now, golfers can leave the flag in or take it out, whichever they prefer.
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Anyone have recommendation on how the "my career" is on this game? Just looking for rpg feel kinda where I just keep investing stats into my character. Not customization much, but stats
Yea its str8 trash .... RPG basically nonexistant .... cant upgrade stats the "skills" you get make zero sense like miss three str8 greens and get a small boost in accuracy 💩 or miss two putts from 5 ft or less and u get a boost in putting (seriously) there are a laughably small amount of different clothing options ... feels hollow and there are also pay to win golf balls you can buy that fly 20 yards further and stop on a dime and people play them in online ranked matches ... whole thing is a joke do not buy
$35 for PGA 2k23 & NBA 2k23 Cross gen bundle. Thinking about it cuz the size of next gen games is absolutely insane. I can’t store more than 2 games on my SSD with 170GB NBA 2k23 on there so I’m forced to play the last gen version stored on external HDD. It says PGA 2k23 next gen is only 23GB. Is that true?
Love the game, graphics are nice, plays pretty much like every other golf game. Unfortunately, I have tried to play the Arnold Palmer Invitational on career mode 3 times and it crashes every time before the course loads. What a load of shit.
Dissatisfaction- going back to 2k21. They messed upa a good thing. The gameplay was solid. Only needed to flesh out environments, character models, and career depth. THEY MANAGED TO MESS UP THE ACTUAL PLAY. DID I MENTION I DONT WANT THE FAST AND FURIOUS SOUNDTRACK ON A GOLF GAME.
Couldn’t agree more. I fired up 2k21 the other day, shocking how much potential they absolutely fumbled. I assume they’re a small developer, but good lord does 2k23 get it wrong
Why would they not let us rename the guests 1 2 and 3... I play with my dad and 2 brothers who now have to be guest as a character rather than create there own.
Game looks 10 years old. I swear im not internet complain guy, im pretty forgiving for most stuff that even other people hate on lol, but this games look is really lacking
I'm tempted by the inclusion of Top Golf but I don't think it's worth buying the game at full price when I already have PGA2k21. Hopefully by the time this goes on sale they will have fixed the timing issues with the backswing.
I played the demo and there appear to be less courses on this game. 2k21 had all the courses made on thegolfclub so I could play a good few famous links courses. But they don’t appear to be in the game. Augusta and shinnecock also seem to be gone
what do you mean??? i play this by feel and its good, and oh yes career sucks, online modes lack and some are buggy.. but basic gameplay is very solid for me.
I’m sorry but if your a low handicap golfer you would understand why this is the best golf game ever created based on skill tree and player build reasons. Also this guy does not know what he’s talking about😂
They honestly just need to revert back to how Tiger Woods was back in the day. 2003 and 2004 were probably the most fun as they weren’t too serious. Loads of random golfers to play as and having the boost and spin was great
This, plus loads of unlockables and customization.
That is the best comment ever
@@mudafukrjonez4262 it is. And it's every video game, just set up a system that makes replayability paramount. That's what made elden ring great, that's what made the early '00s tiger games great. Neither made their money on microtransactions, they made it on a well built game with different ways to play and rewarded replaying at a high level. These bear bone game designer's need to learn that.
That's funny you say that. I think the first Tiger game I got was 02 or 03 whenever they added the analog swing. I don't think there was even 10 coarses and a good portion of them were fake but we had a blast with that game. We all went through the career mode because that golfer was slightly better than Tiger. We played hard core. There doesn't seem to be a game like that anymore.
There’s no more spin or boost ?
What I don’t understand is - how this game, nba 2k and wwe 2k can all be under the 2k umbrella but have vastly varying degrees of customisation. WWE is easily the best when it comes to it, but PGA is terrible in regards to myplayer character builds and and look
Different developers.
Well… I don’t think we should be able to make our golfers look like undertaker
I realized you basically have to pay to customize your character, even if you bought the deluxe edition. Fun game but not worth paying for the extras
Well it’s about the game
Not your character you weirdo
@@mamalannightshyaman This sounds the opposite of what I want
I’m not a huge fan of sports games, let alone golf games, but I got this game for free on the PSN store as I’m a PS plus member. I haven’t been able to put it down! I’m having a blast playing through the career mode, winning tournaments and working my way up the ladder. I think 2K got a lot right with this game , and they’ve made a golf game, of all games, fun to play. 8/10 for me
it's so much better than EA PGA for me, I just got it a week ago too
I agree, 8/10 for me
Coming from playing The Golf Clubs 1st release to where they are now. Amazing. Can’t wait to play
Was looking forward to playing this with the wife. They finally brought back the three click, but they had to mess it up.
Golf Club 2015 was best all around .if they would bring that game back with 4k graphic, it would blow the competition.A masterpiece in golf.
what sucks is if you go watch birdland's TV Corona's Max video on 2k21 you will see what is happening in this game and with these people
Bottom line - to people that have tried both 2k21 and 2k23, is it even worth upgrading if we already have '21? Or are the two games still similar enough that we might as well stay with '21 if we've already got it? Feedback welcome
Not for the minor additions, I don’t think so
23 plays a lot better gameplay wise, but all that seems personal, some like it some hate it.
There's only one thing I care about. I want to sit on the sofa with a friend and for us BOTH to be able to log in to our own profiles and play together. Something that's been missing from ALL golf games since the Xbox 360 games. Now, player 2 is forced to be a 'Guest' and cannot unlock achievements or retain any statistics whatsoever. Pathetic.
Same stupidity on Tekken 7 & other games. They make ZERO effort when it comes to multiplayer. And this is a FIGHTING GAME we are talking about. Who buys fighting games to play solo?? They act like we are still on Covid lockdowns & trying to discourage us from ever having human contact again.
They need to add ranked play in matchmaking for this game and an option in the settings to “reset calibration” at any time to reset the swing calibration to the games default.
This is a better review than those other guys
not really, this guy does not really know about golf.
just played it yesterday for the first time and I think 2k21 is much better regarding the gameplay, 2K21 seems so much smoother with the controls and i'm slicing my drives every hole in this game. it generally seems to suck
It’s generally a harder game but it’s much smoother to me than 2k21
@@Koyoo11 I think I just suck at swinging I might have to try the 3 button sequence mode. I felt it was more forgiving in 2k21
opposite for me, maybe it depends on the platform you play?
You are playing on easy difficulty with no mention that you can up the difficulty to make sure you can't use the putting line.
Still playing tiger woods 2005, amazing career mode
Trying to work out the worst thing about this game, but every time I think I have found it something else happens.
yep
The hitch in the swing meter has made the game almost unplayable. Especially when hitting out of the rough or a bunker.
How are you finding this game? I'm struggling to enjoy it ive put about 20 hours into the game please tell me it gets better haha
Thanks for the review. Same old HB engine with the same issues. A bit too sensitive on the swing, Having the player twitch just as you swing and I assume anyone you play against off line is a guest and gets no experience points. I just do not understand why these issues are still in the game. It really needs several degrees of difficulty to chose from when you start playing the game. This had to potential to be the best golf game ever. But for me it is too inconsistent and in reality, limited to a single player on line experience.
I love this game but its a budget 2k title. They paid a budget studio to make it. Not bad but charging 60 is kinda crazy when you can go get "the golf club 2019" or "2k21" for dirt cheap for the same game. I know theres new stuff but the graphics and the weird announcer glitches ive been having and the lackluster announcer presentation makes me keep going back to "ea sports pga tour" more often for the immersion. But atleast you guys hired someone competent to review this game and not whoever they picked at IGN who clearly never played a golf game before.
Is this game worth it on sale ?
Honestly don't know who would pay full price for these games, this looks like it's basically an add on for 2k21. The dry, slow and underdeveloped commentary, combined with overly repetitive game play and plastic mannequin looking crowds are hugely underwhelming and combine to make a really dull gameplay experience. For me I'll wait to see what the upcoming EA golf game will be like. Surely it will be a breathe of fresh air.
Except it’ll be capped at 30fps on consoles. It will look much better though picture wise.
The game mechanics dont make sense and are broken, ive a few steep uphill shots and no matter if i club up or down the ball just completely soars past the green, same thing with sand and rough
Link 2004 was the best golf game to me
I dont even like golf nor how to play but I want this
The lack of pga tour courses absolutely kills it for me.
Every pga course will be in the game made by the community lol. Litt thousands and thousands of courses will be playable.
EA Will have the PGA course on Thier game including all four major's courses 🙂
@@paulniven757 ea isn't any better at doing anything they don't even have the same developers anymore
I really like this is a overall step up from PGA 2k21. My only huge gripe is the game freezing after I hit my tee shot, it happens multiple times in a gaming sessions and makes it very irritating to play 👎. It that get fixed in the next update I'll be a happy golfer
On the fence buying this with the Black Friday discount. Has this been fixed?
@@sonichallbartender There was an update patch put out last week that fixed the freezing and crashing. The only thing they didn't fix is sometimes when I start a match in careers mode it resets my golf clubs back to the default ones you start with, it's not a huge deal and doesn't affect the gameplay. I played it for a few hours last night and the only issue I had was going back and fixing my clubs
Happening to me right now lol
@@StevenM801 … It’s on sale, is it worth it ?
@@funkyflightsI think it’s definitely worth it. The single player career mode is fun. The online multiplayer is also a blast. I got it for free so I can’t complain lol . Overall fantastic game imo
Tiger back pushing the PR surely the game is getting back to what it once was...
09 and 10 were the best
On 360 sure. Ps2 fuck no as far as 09 and 10 are concerned. All seriousness, 2k can't create golf games. Leave that to EA. I don't think EA will ever get back to their peak which was Tiger Woods 2005
What I don’t understand on this game, is why I get like $100 per tournament win… wtf…
Unless you get this game free, don’t spend money on it. 2k21 is honestly better. This game is half baked, and that’s generous.
am playing 2k23 now, am very confused about clubs. Are they cosmetic only? i was awared some TGC zero sum irons, and for the life of me i cannot compare their stats to the default ones... it appears i can equip them, but the stats do not change. what am i missing?
Clubs are cosmetic only. (Sound effects change too.) But you can equip three "fittings" (head, shaft, grip) to each club to customize its values.
@@Spezifischable yeah i knew the fittings part, just wasnt sure if the clubs had different base stats or not.
Do I get this or 2k23
No John Daly?
I feel like 2k can do a much better job with these graphics! Some of the people look like when you over use the blemish effect on your photos. 😬😂
right
Would be nice if somebody would think out of the box. Instead of just a 4.5 inch PGA hole maybe add a
9 inch hole to make long shots more frequently.
If you change "PGA" to "ass" in your comment then I'm with ya.
Bro is that Stephen Curry in the thumbnail🤣🤣🤣
Yeah his in the game same as mj is as well 😅
@@ivenzeh bro whatttt😭😭
@@markimoo2x ikr so stupid it’s 2k trying to get the nba fan base over 😂
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Looks to be on par with previous games
It is. It's the exact same game with a GUI update.
Games on sale through the ps store, bought for $26. Hit a hole in one on the 8th hole of the round I played lol
How is it I like 21 ?
@red H it's about the same, as far as game play. If it's still on sale it's worth checking out.
U can turn the putline and all the cheesy aids off btw.
Don't forget the issue with the pin being in the hole when you putt. That is absolutely not allowed, unless the pin is attended by your caddie. I have missed putts that were 5ft away just by hitting the pin with barely any speed on the ball... I also completely agree with the inconsistency in shots. People can have slow swing speeds and still smash the ball, speed has little to do with going right or left. The player creation system leaves a lot to be desired as well. I have seen better in games that are a decade older... Instead of Golf games getting better, they seem to be declining. I also expected the game and models to be much better looking on PS5, in 4k.
You can remove the pin when you're on the green. Xbox it's the "x" button.
@@taylormartin107 thanks, should be an auto thing, but nice to know!
@@thechronomage5605 Under the old rules, if you putted into a cup with the flag still in, it was a penalty on you. Not anymore. The 2019 edition of the Rules of Golf removed that old rule. Now, golfers can leave the flag in or take it out, whichever they prefer.
@@markstringfellow9358 ah thanks for the update, been a few years since I had been able to play.
😂 his putt line showing he’s hammering everything off the green every time.
The slightest bit of stick drift, you’re screwed. Play with a brand new controller.
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The courses look great but golfers look poor considering the NBA characters look amazing.
“Put line is overpowered in every shot” buddy your on easy mode. You can turn all these assistants off
He was annoying me by using it anyway, that’s not how it works on the course
Golf games used to be some of the most graphically stunning games, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore
Road to the masters will be awesome graphics wise
Anyone have recommendation on how the "my career" is on this game? Just looking for rpg feel kinda where I just keep investing stats into my character. Not customization much, but stats
Yea its str8 trash .... RPG basically nonexistant .... cant upgrade stats the "skills" you get make zero sense like miss three str8 greens and get a small boost in accuracy 💩 or miss two putts from 5 ft or less and u get a boost in putting (seriously) there are a laughably small amount of different clothing options ... feels hollow and there are also pay to win golf balls you can buy that fly 20 yards further and stop on a dime and people play them in online ranked matches ... whole thing is a joke do not buy
The Top Golf addition is stupid. Looks like it was thrown together, mediocre at best. The story mode is fun
They could have just made a tiger woods dlc to 2k21. That’s the 2k formula though, just pump out another game.
Want to see the new EA golf game before I try either....
Same not a huge EA fan but the old tiger woods games were the best.
And it did terribly....
@@couchguy427 EA's PGA Tour is a beautiful game....
PGA 2K23 ABSOLUTELY SUCKS.......DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY
Michael Shepherd: thank you I was about to buy it PS Store for 38.99
@@renerodriguez9055 lol buy it..watch gamer ability, at least he knows what he talks about.
Golf games need a new engine for me to get excited about them. This is a $30 game and even then I have to think about it on sale. It's not worth $70
$35 for PGA 2k23 & NBA 2k23 Cross gen bundle. Thinking about it cuz the size of next gen games is absolutely insane. I can’t store more than 2 games on my SSD with 170GB NBA 2k23 on there so I’m forced to play the last gen version stored on external HDD. It says PGA 2k23 next gen is only 23GB. Is that true?
It's essentially the same as 2K 21
Love the game, graphics are nice, plays pretty much like every other golf game. Unfortunately, I have tried to play the Arnold Palmer Invitational on career mode 3 times and it crashes every time before the course loads. What a load of shit.
Looks stupid...nothing beat the old Tiger woods on ps2.
Dissatisfaction- going back to 2k21. They messed upa a good thing. The gameplay was solid. Only needed to flesh out environments, character models, and career depth. THEY MANAGED TO MESS UP THE ACTUAL PLAY. DID I MENTION I DONT WANT THE FAST AND FURIOUS SOUNDTRACK ON A GOLF GAME.
The game play’s music while you play ? You can’t adjust ?
Couldn’t agree more. I fired up 2k21 the other day, shocking how much potential they absolutely fumbled. I assume they’re a small developer, but good lord does 2k23 get it wrong
Try, The green goblin , by kyhomp. Very fun challenging course
Why would they not let us rename the guests 1 2 and 3... I play with my dad and 2 brothers who now have to be guest as a character rather than create there own.
You are able to edit the appearance of guests on last game.. Not sure if names were an option
@@mikefred420 you can edit appearance on this one but not names so stupid for local play
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mouse swipe sucks compared to click
Game looks 10 years old. I swear im not internet complain guy, im pretty forgiving for most stuff that even other people hate on lol, but this games look is really lacking
Who tf chooses to play golf 😂 as if the real sport wasn’t boring enough
I'm tempted by the inclusion of Top Golf but I don't think it's worth buying the game at full price when I already have PGA2k21. Hopefully by the time this goes on sale they will have fixed the timing issues with the backswing.
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From what I’ve read there’s no difference between 2k23 the previous versions
I bought the deluxe edition to get pretty much nothing, it’s a fun game to me but I wish I waited for it to be discontinued.
@@notmenotme614 you are wrong there.
I played the demo and there appear to be less courses on this game. 2k21 had all the courses made on thegolfclub so I could play a good few famous links courses. But they don’t appear to be in the game. Augusta and shinnecock also seem to be gone
they're on there
It needs real audio from fans. It’s just generic clapping.
There isn’t that 1 guy in every Tee-off screaming “LETS GO TIGER!” ??
Meh.....I'll stick with my Rory.......best golf game IMO.
Way to easy of a golf game
Masters 12 simply the best
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I like 2K21 better
it looks almost the same as 2k21 lol
No, 2K21 looks better.........2K23 Absolutely sucks
Not gonna buy it. Thx! 😁
Need more arcade less simulation
Bring back tiger 03-08
or '14
They made it to technical....
what do you mean??? i play this by feel and its good, and oh yes career sucks, online modes lack and some are buggy..
but basic gameplay is very solid for me.
@@wout123100 yep I just bought it been playing it for 5 hours and I’m enjoying it
Your video game putting is worse than my real life putting
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final verdict do not play online because you will match up against people with cronuses and other little cheats. this game is hot garbage
I just want to play classic courses with my favorite players
This isn't a review, its a sales pitch.
I’m sorry but if your a low handicap golfer you would understand why this is the best golf game ever created based on skill tree and player build reasons. Also this guy does not know what he’s talking about😂
yes agree, but most golfgamers have never ever hold a club in their life. game has issues for sure, but gameplay is quite good
and pretty realistic.
3 button swing 👍👍👍
How can a game look this bad in 2023. Jesus.
Your putting is so off lmao
The final verdict: this game is hot garbage 🗑️
final verdict, these gamers do not really know what they talk about, never played real golf obviously.
Trash game. Wasted my money-
Never thought I'd say this, but give this back to ea, at least the atmosphere and music were decent, this looks as dead as 2k21.
This game sucks.empty shell of almost shots
The graphics on this game is equal to the golf club 2 from 2011
pathetic
Worse than 2k21