Ea vs. 2k Golf - Who Wins?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- For decades both EA and 2k dominated the sports genres of video games. There are rarely occasions like this in which both develop for the same sport at the same time. This video, as of February 2023, reviews the pros and cons of each.
Ea vs. 2k Golf - Who Wins?
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What game are you purchasing and why?
EA hands down. I grew up on EA and it just had a fun factor that these new 2K games just don't have for me. Really hoping it is as good and polished as the trailers we have seen make it look. Once I found out EA was dropping a new game I didn't even bother picking up 2K23, just patiently waiting.
EA. Definitely miss the majors
@@remmy100 I miss them too!
@@ICoKraI Many people share the same stance. Lets hope EA can bring their swag back from the early TW days.
I've already got 2K so I may try the EA PGA on EA Play, but I'm solidly in the 2K camp - have been since the TGC days. Everything equal, the fact that 2K has the course creator and an endless supply of phenomenal (and some not as much!) courses is what does it for me.
Still my favorite golf title is Tiger Woods PGA tour 2005. The commentary, the in-flight spin control and most epic part which was when you nail the timing on a tee shot to have the slow-mo banger send you on your way.
Ive bought plenty of golfing titles between then and now but I still keep going back to 2005.
05 is the goat
Interesting. I do recall the early 2000's being some of the best. I hope this battle brings out the best in EA unlike their attempted return with NBA Live (Complete flop)
Wasn't it 2004?
I thought it was 2004 that was the magic year, from what I remember. It was one of those two absolutely epic, fun asf game.
@@WildfireX Yeah 04-05 time was great and 14 was one of my favorites too.
Golf is already difficult irl and I love it with a dash of hate😀, why try simulate that in a game? Im all for sim titles, Im an avid racer and enjoy trucking etc. but with golf, its like simulating a shark attack in your lounge.
I have to say EA has been a major let down. Glitches, crashing, not giving rewards on completion, EA server connection issues… and the game is just missing something, it’s a mess of stuff that is disorganized and knowing what to do is difficult. The online play is garbage, you basically just play on your own.
Agreed, I am holding out hope for significant improvements via updates.
I was a huge Tiger Woods PGA Tour games guy, until Tiger got dumped by EA. But if I had to make a choice, I like EA even though 2K’s create a course is phenomenal! But because 2K is crossplay and not as smooth looking, I’m going with EA PGA Tour. Now if 2K next year gets the LIV Tour, and is Next Gen Console only, then count me in on that. But with all that EA has to offer in courses and ball physics, as well as weather dynamics, and Augusta National… yeah, I have to go with EA this year.
Imagine being able to play Augusta with those next gen graphics, all those great swing mechanics and not being able to choose Tiger.
Yeah it is certainly going to be bizarre with no Tiger at Augusta.
Sucks I know without tiger. EA is his home who are the only company who will do his likeness justice and have first priority unlike 2k.
@@ゆみす魔王 his home is in florida actually ;} on a side note EA used to employ hb studios to make those tiger woods games and hb studios are the ones who now make 2k's golf game so there's that
I almost bought 2k today since it’s on sale but road to the Masters is a week away so I’m holding off and picking it up instead
I have PGA 2K23 now and I have pre-ordered EA PGA Tour also. I have been a fan of TGC from the first release and enjoy the game, but happy to see EA back in the fold, as I was a big fan of the Tiger games back in the day. I am very much a solo career mode type player, so 2K can get stale quickly, so looking forward to EA and the different challenges and all those nice courses and better next gen graphics. I used to enjoy yhr old tiger game where you could do different challenges to improve your golfer, not just play the career mode.
Love to hear it. I also loved all the different game modes and challenges the old games included. I'm hopeful that EA will launch with a bunch of cool features and if not then at very least the competition will spark that needed innovation to keep the gamers coming back for more. Licensing things can certainly be tricky so courses and player likeness etc. of course will be a large obstacle however there is plenty of room for improvement on different game modes on and offline.
I play solo career too, and that’s where I think 2k really dropped the ball. The player/clothes customization was such a swing and miss this year. I still doubt EA golf will have better gameplay than 2k though.
@@AncientAge_449 Eh... 2K's gameplay is acceptable, but could be better. There are many issues.
@@ravenwda007 Can you even play course created courses offline? If no then Course creator is functionally POINTLESS once the servers go down.
@@ravenwda007 How would you improve the gameplay? Thats the strength of the game imo
I just pre-ordered EA PGA TOUR for Xbox Series X/S and I'm excited to be able to make a run at the Masters and compete for that green jacket plus it's a true next gen only game instead of a ported previous gen version!
Okay so I'm playing the 3 day 2k trial here with my Son over the Easter holidays. The game is only 26 euros to buy ATM too. Absolute Bargain. I've downloaded Ea Pga Tour 10 hour Trial. Gonna play a few games vs my son with this too and let him pick which to buy. Both of us get the game when one of us buys it (Dad will buy obviously) 🤣 That's what I love about Xbox. Anyway I'm getting off track. We've been having a ball lately playing a game I didn't think he'd have the least bit of interest in but it's also renewing my love for the Tiger woods series. I'll let you know which one he picks ☺️
Love to hear it! Keep us posted. Someone new to the game i am guessing the graphics and casual feel of EA might get the win. But interested to hear.
I wish EA lost the NFL license so they would actually try to improve Madden and 2K lost the NBA license so they would improve NBA 2K.
Just let us play regular career mode with the golfers in 2k. Would be a lot better.
Only TW07 on 360 let you play Tiger woods in career mode
I do agree having more of a purpose for the personalities that are in the game would be nice outside of just a simple local match. Perhaps EA will find a better way to integrate them into their game as 2k they seem pretty inconsequential.
I have 2k21 and man I was disappointed mainly player models. even tho the course looks great. I have pga tour pre ordered and man I’m excited for it !!
I dont think you will be dissapointed with the courses that EA is delivering thats for sure. Graphics look awesome from that point of view.
One thing none of these reviews mention is this: Can I play with my buddy in a career mode vs ai players in a year by year career?
If they had it for PS4 I could try it. But as it is currently that is not possible. But I’m really enjoying 2k23 honestly. 2k23 deserves the rights to the actual courses same as EA.
I’m wondering about how in-game currency is awarded. There’s PGA points, the green points I think you have you buy with real cash(can you win this too from any game modes?).
Great question. Still learning myself. Will maybe create a video on it, if not will for sure be discussing during live streams
what about Oak Hill? That better be added I would hope
Yes they will have all the majors so for sure will be there. If not at release before the pga championship
I think I’m waiting for EA. My takeaway from this video is if you want to design courses and play against your buddies get 2K, if you want realism and better graphics go EA.
In a small nutshell yes. A lot tbd for EA still but all trending in the right direction
So, single player = EA
multi = 2k.
EA Graphics a lot better over 2k 3:00
Yeah I would pretty much agree with all of thus
Best golf game for me was the one on philips CDI and TW in 2005 on playstation ...
Thx for the comparison 👍😎🇩🇪
Very excited about EA being back in the game. I always played the Tiger Woods games in the early 00s, and was really disappointed when I got 2K23, it just felt really sterile.
I think you will enjoy EA. There is a lot of content and variety of game modes and difficulty levels on top of a large boost in graphics and presentation over 2k23
For me I just want a golf game with the proper courses like Augusta etc
Augusta is a must for a golf game
No doubt EA will dominate at the outset, but if they lag too long in bringing in additional courses, I think it may grow somewhat stale. They could absolutely CRUSH 2K if they brought in a course design feature, but this seems incredibly unlikely. I've played 2K in it's various forms for about 3 years & thoroughly enjoy it, especially the course design ability & the society play feature (which is riddled with bugs), but I will definitely give EA a try. Looking forward to making my own comaparisons/contrasts!
Yes, EA will crush opening sales but heading into the fall this year will people still be interested is a great question. Curious how many game modes they will offer and how quickly they will expand.
They are having 30 courses at launch that equals 540 holes. How much more do you need 😂
@@brianchiaro1191 If youre a degenerate gamer you would be surprised at how quickly things can get. That being said if they knock these 30 courses out of the pack i tend to agree it is quite a lot to cycle through.
@@Kilbride10 true but just like anything though. Was just calling out where I felt it needed. 2K had 20 courses at launch. EA has 30. Not trying to be biased since I have 2K already but it’s lame compared to old Tiger
@@brianchiaro1191 2k with the course designer mode instantly had significantly more than 20
It’s important to have competition between the two developers. Both need to stick around to push each other to develop better games. If you don’t think so look at what Madden has become because of the lack of competition. NFL 2K was an outstanding game until EA got the exclusive simulation rights from the NFL.
Remember how bad EA was at making basketball that they had to stop because NBA 2K was so good? Competition is good
EA didn't need competition to make good golf games...
@@ゆみす魔王 EA made good golf games but I think they would have been even better if they had competition. Competition forces improvement in every walk of life from the companies competing with each other with a certain product to athletes competing with each other in practice for a certain position. Competition IS NECESSARY or you eventually become stale and don’t improve. Madden was good for years without any real competition and then got the exclusive sim NFL license and then the lack of competition shows every year. The game is AWFUL. I use to buy the game every year but now I don’t even remember the last time I bought it because it’s that bad.
Ok help me out here. So unlike PGA 2k23 where you have to play online even in career mode, on the EA game, you don’t have to be online to play career mode, correct? The reason I ask is because where I live, we have no internet service.
Great question. Anyone know the answer to this?
I personally don't care about the course designer in 2K and I have a quite a few other issues with the 2K game. I'm really looking forward to EA's offering and I expect that I will probably like it more than I've enjoyed 2K/The Golf Club.
The designer mode itself I would imagine is not highly utilized and most who do probably just play around. Few and far between that create great courses. Biggest perk is obviously everyone having the ability to play their final products. I’m thinking I too will prefer EA with that being said
I am a MyPlayer exclusive sports gamer, but EA has been nothing but a let down year after year in FIFA and Madden, as they just never ever make improvements or add things players want. Their physics engine and graphics are just hype EA uses to hide all the flaws.
I waited until I could buy 2K23 at a reasonable cost and think it’s very good. I wanted it for the course designer so I doubt very much that I’ll buy EA’s offering.
Very fair. Course designer is such a cool mode. Massive sandbox for everyone to explore
I will play 2K23 for the season and EA Sports for the Majors. But if I can edit the season in EA like in earlier titles then I might change my mind.
Interesting. So you prefer 2k but just don’t like that it won’t have the majors. 2k does have a great gameplay feel imo so not completely surprised as I personally love it myself. EA really does grab my eyes and probably most as everyone looks forward to the majors
I bought 2k last year and I was bored after week. I pre-ordered EA and I really hope it's like TWs 2004. Greatest golf game ever.
2k has very limited game modes. They did just add ranked online play (which should have been in game at launch). Im curious how many modes EA will have
@@Kilbride10 I would also like to know who has the better player creator.
@@robertcerda92 2k is very limited on player customization... I would guess EA will be better but I have no knowledge of what they plan on offfering. I base that soley on the fact that 2k has extreme limitations.
Good video but cross-play is not a major incentive because 2ks online play is very inconsistent and they are only doing this because of the impending EA golf title, how about improving the graphics and career mode?2k is like eating a hamburger with no meat inside and course creator is nothing to shout about because the community are doing the work not 2k . Bring on EA PGA .
All fair points. I do think cross play adds a lot of value to those who already play 2k. However is it a major incentive for someone new to purchase, perhaps no?
Have played the 2k series since it came out a few years ago. Love the game. EA game looks fantastic and I will be purchasing day 1.
You and I both! Hoping EA comes out swinging!
Regardless of how good the game is...smh , EA LOVE mugs like you
If you want an arcade game go for EA if you want a challenge with something that is closer to the physics of golf in real life go for 2K. As a scratch golfer and someone who played the game at a higher level I find 2K a much better version with an overall better golfing experience
I would strongly agree
How about 2013 when Bigfoot showed up?
Legendary moment
Excited to try the new EA game.
I'm meh on 2k due to last year's game. It was a snoozer!
If you enjoyed tiger games in the past and are looking for some better graphics and more to do, I think you will enjoy EA. 2k is starting to turn a corner as they add more and more but for those that didn’t care for 2k, I find most are enjoying EA thus far. Try to 10 hour trial with EA access if you have that option too
@@Kilbride10 I've not played the new EA game yet, but the style (& hopefully the feel) look to be much improved.
@@mikeh.9954 absolutely. It seems a bit less skill based and more arcadey than 2k however still feels pretty good and definitely a lot of fun in combo with the presentation and graphics
whichever one can allow you to sell out and go to LIV will probably be the one i get
🤣I dont think that will be an option however who knows. Certainly would be interesting to see both tours co-exist.
I hate being able to adjust the ball mid-flight. Hopefully EA keeps the hardcore sim fans happy. I’m looking forward to the game, even if it is EA.
I prefer the simulation style myself. I know many people are craving the arcade style though too. Hope they can cater to both markets
@@Kilbride10 When the trailer announced I wasn't expecting Power Boost, Big Hit Camera, and Pressure moments to come back. Power Boost coming back is gonna be HUGE because now EA's Fantasy Courses like Copperhead Canyon if that comes back or Greek Isles or The Predator or Central Park or Emerald Dragon can be played on as intended if the power boost is like the Arcade era and not the 360 era as far as mashing goes. Those courses you can't exactly reach the par 5s without the power boost function. Power Boost plus Fast swing for extra distance is gonna be massive.
@@ゆみす魔王 Yeah for sure. Many people loveeee those fantasy courses. Arcade style golf certainly has its place in gaming
What about 60fps?? PGA 2K23 has it. Will EA patch this to 60fps?
It was discussed at length when it was revealed that they will only have 30fps on console at launch. If you are able to play on pc it already has higher fps. I know it was harshly criticized (rightfully so). That being said based on the community feedback it seems like they are expediting this on their timeline. What expediting means is clearly up for interpretation. Hopefully this is high priority and we know more in next few months.
Which 1 has the blood money sportswashing LIV golf ruining everything in it.
as soon as we Greg Norman apparel we will know!
Any idea if on EA if you can play your my player vs a AI player in some modes?
That’s a great question and I do not know as of yet. It would be cool to see shot for shot vs the cpu in your pairing in a tournament.
@@Kilbride10 Check the FAQ for that.
i can not get online with this tiger woods 2023 for the life of me had it for like a week and a half
The ball physics , despite the marketing , looks as arcadey as previous renditions of EA golf games ; the only area they appear to have an advantage is with the players ; they look outstanding.
I do agree some of the animations look a bit odd to say the least from the trailer. For example short game shots just look awkward.
@@Kilbride10 I think it will be aimed at casual players who love an arcade game. Simulation fans will stick to 2ks
@@dontbewoke That was my initial thought as well. Im curious how their simulation setting will play.
2k is far from a sim and I just plat’d that game.
They both look like a video game of golf ⛳️
You can judge ball physics from a trailer without ever having played the game???
That's super impressive, bud. Are you psychic???
without having played EA yet, I would double down on EA for the win based on what we've seen and predicted gameplay.
Very well could be the case. I’m sure they will have their own flaws too but I wouldn’t be surprised if they knocked it out of the park. Back when Rory was made there was no competition so the product suffered. Knowing they are going directly against their biggest competitor in 2k and their former signature athlete in tiger they know there is a steep hill to climb. With that being said I’m willing to bet they have dedicated the resources to make sure it’s off high quality. 🤞
30fps, no weather, hot shots golf animations, power boost/spin arcade controls. You know those will be turned on online. Idk just yet. The lack of gameplay shown right now is kind of concerning to me considering the game releases in a 3 weeks. Courses look good and player swings look good. Minus the chipping and clunky bunker animations. I grew up playing tw games and loved them. Was even ranked inside the global top 100 in tw12. I play 2k currently a lot and enjoy. But im ready for a change and something new. But it is EA, and i dont trust them hence why i did not preorder. Fingers crossed the gameplay is better than Rory but it looks very similar
Ea uses the whole swing path of your joystick 2k does not
@@fuckyoutube8639 That's just not true - It's the exact opposite. Change the settings.
Pretty silly considering you havnt played it yet
Great video. EA will edge it for me due to the in depth career mode and customisation. I will still play PGA Tour 2k23. The competition is healthy
My instincts make me lean the same way but also will for sure be playing both unless EA is a complete flop.
Everyone loves 2k lol…I love ea golf for easier reasons graphics are usually better you actually have to develop your swing cause it’s full motion ea is a harder Game then 2k so people love 2k lol
The basic settings in 2k that may be the case. However a lot of people crank up the difficulty and it plays much more challenging as opposed to ea
Really looking forward to EA's entry. I have played 2K's effort a lot, but I'm really looking forward to playing in more realistic scenery. I agree with you Kilbride, I'm praying that the microtransactions are cosmetic only.
Yes. Im competely okay with cosmetic based microtransactions like Fortnite for example. In todays day in age a developer would be financially irresponsible to not have microtransactions however once they are required for gameplay improvements or courses it loses my attention immediately. Release a special edition Tony Finau apparel package for purchase to make your character look cosmetically different by all means.
i SUPER hate 2k ,but have no chouce since EA won't be on the PS4
The bar is set so low with the 2k series that I think EA will easily take the crown. The gameplay on 2k is wonky and doesn't seem to have real golf physics. The putting and chipping just doesn't seem right. I have zero desire to play any courses made in the course designer. Only the top few are actually good. 2k is a $40 game pretending to be a full release.
I have both and lets be real, EA on PC runs like garbage. I have a beast rig and have it loaded on an M.2 and will still get random lag spikes during swings. The major courses are great to play, but accompanied with the game mechanics that seem very not-EA, it's hard to get into it. I have countless hours on every golf game since '98 and it's very obvious to me that the Frostbite is a completely new thing that just doesn't feel right yet. The gear, courses, vibe, swing animations and graphics of EA are superior, but I don't think either of them have achieved a playability that should be gushed over just yet. As a competitive golfer, a lot of shit sticks out to me in 2K that just seems like they didn't even consider consulting an actual golfer about, and it's triggering. You get less of that with EA but it's not as satisfying...it's a tough spot. HBS has done little to nothing to update their game mechanics since TGC19 and it shows and now working with 2K, we can expect absolutely no polish with any titles in the future. 2K simply doesn't work that way, they make it work and then they rebrand until the end of time. Very little was needed to show some mini golf love for course creation and they didn't even try, regardless of how many people of their small vocal community begged for it. If you can get either game for $20, go for it, but I'd recommend 2k first because people enjoy it more and the community is a lot more involved.
However...if you just want to play Torrey or Pebble or Augusta with a set of Miura's and a Scotty Cameron, rocking Air Force 1's.....that would be EA. And damn do they look good.
I like them both, but if I had to choose one over the other, EA gets the win. More realistic graphics, and it has the Masters and US Open. Plus, it had Pebble Beach at launch, where 2K had to add it through an update. Now that both have Pinehurst, I pick up 2K once in a while, but my vote still goes to EA.
I agree. I wish they'd mash the two games together haha
Best and worst of each:
2k: Best = More realistic gameplay, Custom courses, Worst=commentary and extremely complex and convoluted upgrade/fittings system.
EA: Best = Graphics, physics, good variety of courses. Worst=Player progression, "Pro Pass" (which let's face it it's a Pay-To-Win system that allows you to buy your way to a better character.
Head to head competition among developers. Responsive development teams. 2 year development cycles. Imagine if they did this with football? Madden might be slightly playable.
I have no problem with the 2k career mode. The problem is that the system of skill points, fittings, fit fees is so complex and convoluted that it's hard to level up your player. Plus 2k is extremely stingy with currency. Truth is I go back and forth between the two. I use EA when I want the career mode, but for casual golf I still give 2k the slight edge because of custom courses.
Thank you. That's swayed it to 2k for me for now 👍
i havent played 2k but i play rory mcilroy pga tour game on xbox one and i still think their graphics are better than todays
Sadly they do hold up with and perhaps surpass 2k in some areas. Graphics will heavily lean towards EA for sure
I will absolutely be buying the EA game, because I am still chasing that Tiger Woods 2004-5 high.
Minus having tiger woods himself I am willing to bet they do a much better job with this version of the game knowing they have direct competition. 🤞
From the videos I’ve seen can’t say I’m a fan of the backswing. Disappointed with the lack of UK courses as well.
I assume this is on the EA side of the fence? If so, yes the UK courses do seem limited, perhaps many more post launch but nothing confirmed
Dude I’d riding ea from somebody planning on getting them both (already have 2k)
The 2k community can make all the courses & ea will probably charge $5-10 per course. Ea pga is 30 fps so even if current gen, it’s not too relative in the debate. My last comment in regards to the “ground being different per course” is simply a sales pitch..they been doing this in madden w/locomotion, spotlight passing etc
But we all know it’s just empty words when we get the game
Like I said, getting them both but 2k seems to have a massive long term advantage
i picked up 2K game 2 weeks ago. I'm playing on PC and do not have a controller so I have attempting to play with mouse and keyboard. Its very challenging to control the shots even with a ruler taped to my desk to keep the mouse straight. My question is about the character. I cannot find a way to change my Golfer Name and I also find it annoying to be unable to Quit a game with a WD. Any suggestions?
I am looking forward to the EA game too and might purchase that one if it plays better.
MY Player -> Golfer -> Info to change your character's name.
As far as the WD i think if you quit tourney and advance there is no way to prevent it. You should be able to leave the tourney and return later without problem though. EA is trending to have a nice career with all the majors involved. Lets hope it lives to the hype.
Pga 2k will be better mark my words.
As far as a realistic gameplay they are very hard to match. It wouldnt surprise me.
A NON starter regarding EA's version on PC. NO mouse support so you're left to playing by tapping keyboard keys all day long. Yes you could TRY to use a X Box controller
BUT if I wanted to do that I'd buy a bloody Xbox. 2k/23 is far better.
I really only care about the course designer.
It’s a smaller community but quite frankly the most important for 2ks success
4:27 Well, that didn't age very well, did it? Pro pass is a pay-to-win system that allows people to basically buy their way to a good golfer. You'll get XP faster if you pay them more money. It's the #1 worst thing about the EA. As if the totally unreasonable $70 price tag wasn't enough. Madden Ultimate Team more than anything else ruined the game of Madden. 2k23, to be fair, is also shameless with trying to sell you stuff but at least for them it IS cosmetic only, you can play the game just fine without it.
The option for Arcade style has me sold!! I miss the old Tiger games… Not a fan of 2K golf.
Many people are in the same boat as you. They long for the arcade style and it certainly has its place in the video game world.
Pretty Simple- EA all the way. it's always been that way for them, 2k is just a cheap rip off, promising greatness but always under delivering.
2004 tiger woods low round 43, 4 day tourney -87
If Greg Norman knew a thing or 2 he would partner up with EA to combine LIV,
@@SouthCanada I'll take 2005 over 2004. 04 is just no in comparison to 2005 and offers everything what EA fans want now out of the game like Dynamic weather, rain, Tiger Proofing, good animations and models, good career mode, Scenarios, and Tiger woods + Legend golfers like Palmer, Seve, Player etc.
@@SouthCanada Can barely make -6 a round on Tiger Woods 2008 on PC.
So you love the arcade style. Definitely seems like EA will cater more to that audience. Let’s see -100!
I've just recently bought 2k23 and I missing something... as i found it very boring
May try ea but not sure
2k23 kicks me out of my career so often that I quit playing. Reinstalled the game and same thing happened. So excited for EA PGA. Also MLB comes out same week so I'm stoked.
It’s going to be a great week for sports gaming and sports in general. Right before the masters and mlb seasons too!
Which console you have the current game on? I personally haven’t had any issues with career on PS and PC. I wonder if others have experienced similar.
@Kilbride10 PS5. It's frustrating for sure but I'll give EA a go.
@@hunterwinters3739 bizarre… 3 weeks to go!
I own 2k's game and love it. Will buy EA's game as well. I am concerned about the goofy ball physics in the EA trailers....looks to me like the ball is rolling through the rough like a Que ball on a pool table which is really concerning....don't like the goofy mid flight spin control EA's seems to like putting in their game but whatever. Both companies need badly to implement competitive online tournaments/rounds with the option of scoring based on handicap (or net scoring). One of the biggest turn offs to playing in anything online (golf related) is seeing a leaderboard with some dude leading with a -24 score after 18 holes. It makes those modes unplayable.
Yes i agree, I much prefer the more realistic golf scores and a simulation feel. Im hoping EA's can replicate that feeling on their Simulation setting. (Some of the bounces do seem weird)
I feel bad for 2K in a way as they have built on the original Golf Club games and made a really good simulation - I only have 2K21 but great to have a very enjoyable golf game when EA were nowhere to be seen. I’ve held off getting 2K23 as wanted to see what EA had to offer, and it looks very good. The inclusion of the Majors, a ton of premier official courses, a better career mode and the truly current gen visuals swing it (pun intended!) for me. Competition is good though and I feel like both games serve something for everyone - if you’re into online play and creating courses then 2K, whereas EA for career mode and visuals.
Very well said. Only about a month until we find out for sure.,
Ooo which ever wins is going to take their winnings and buy up exclusive rights because that's what they do now making most sports games terrible.
I’ve enjoyed 2K but it’s got issues:
Avatar builder is really bad. The avatars from my PS3 games looked better. How did the graphics get so much jankier when we have so much better hardware?? Easy, 2K doesn’t care.
The replay camera never looks at the actual thing I want to see. I don’t know why this is, but it seems like an easy fix if they actually cared to.
The name brand club sets never include a 3i, or an option to acquire one.
The name brand club models seem old. Since this is software it seems like an easy enough thing to license and change (if 2K wanted to).
The last EA game (McIlroy) featured horrible avatar making software, then they abandoned the players.
It was so bad for so long I bought 2K. Hopefully we aren’t up for a repeat.
All very annoying misses by 2k. Couldn’t agree more. (All seem like easy fixes too)
I already have 2k23, will probably be getting EA PGA. 2k23 had a lot of mixed reviews but it's incredibly enjoyable in my opinion. The difficulty online is very high, which may drive lesser skilled players away. It probably isnt much fun slamming a drive into the water, taking a drop then going bunker to bunker to score a solid +5 on a single hole.
Fine line to walk between realism and video game enjoyment. I will be in the same boat
I hated the gameplay of 2K23.
Anything in particular or just not enough substance?
Pffft. Please. EA by 1,000 miles. Like comparing Mario kart to Forza.
Only 30 course with EA. That is going to get boring and stale really fast.
35 confirmed courses you mean counting the Major and Ryder cup courses? Only 9 off from tying 14's 44 courses with dlc.
30 is significantly more than past ea games. That being said they are no match for total volume of courses compared to 2k with their designer mode
@@Kilbride10 Course creator won't matter when the servers go down since the courses are tied to the servers to my knowledge unlike how EA did it in 2002-2008.
@@ゆみす魔王 That very well could be the case
Nice to see you sticking to your guns. I feel the same and will stick with 2K23. I never get tired of of it and know it will get better.
Easy...Tennis Clash because it was chosen by the official Olympics. 😂
I've never truly enjoyed the 2k series as they didn't have the licensing. I'm looking forward to playing a real tour experience with real Tournaments and courses.
Very common issue with the 2k games. Augusta and the majors alone are such a massive draw for most that without them in game there is no point to purchase.
Bring back outlaw golf it had the best characters and funny moments
O da EA eu comprei e desativei, um lixo.
Só salva os gráficos.
Great video until that cop-out of an ending. When you do that, it makes your title clickbait instead of relevant. Hard pass on the "sub."
Sorry I’ll be sure to make uneducated predictions prior to game releases going forward instead of passing along facts to make your own opinion.
I just bought ea I know I am late just want to know if I made the right choice. Also it was cheaper
All about what you prefer. Each has their own pros and cons. If you’re enjoying EA it’s likely a good choice
LOL Did NOT see the LIV blast coming.
Had too many people ask me about LIV previously to not make a subtle mention. 😂
EA wins. Community wanted better graphics. Ideally UE. 2K23 served up the same "bleh" with Tiger Woods. Havent liked EA golf much since MS Arnie and Links ( yeh I'm that old), but going to give it a go.
I used to play tw online Alot!! Back in 09-14 did u use to play back then in looking for the older gen off player back then to help me deside which is best
Iuse to play as greklive on 360
Still I m playing 2k21 I already bought 2k23. But long time ago I have played The Masters I lit was amazed I think pga the Mastrrs will be better I have already bought also I will see. Best.
Masters is such a great selling point. I hope EA does it right
until you have had a chance to play the New EA Sports PGA Tour hard to really compare.
Yes the verdict is still out as you’re correct won’t know for sure until EA is out.
I'll tell you right now, if you're a golf fan, you are eating good.
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I've been looking forward to EA coming back to the golfing sector.
The 2K games always felt like they were missing that spark that EA brought to their golf games
A sentiment felt by quite a few. Let’s hope EA comes back strong
2k has a bazillion courses. The only reason EA is making this game is because they got Jelly.
To each their own though. ea for arcade fun gameplay. 2k for the pure simmers.
Likely the case. Ea will draw quite the crowd with official licenses to the majors and next gen graphics. Curious to see how well it sells
I just hope EA's simulation difficulty is as punishing as 2K's. I think the set dressing will be much better, and if they can just match that gameplay then they'll get the hardcore players on-side too.
It's genuinely so satisfying to go under par on the full sim level in 2K. I feel an actual sense of accomplishment for say, getting top 10s in events. My proudest steam achievement, and the one I worked hardest for, is genuinely the 'shoot level par or better on Legend difficulty' from 2k21.
That level of difficulty creates so so much replay value.
The simulation style is my preference as well and 2k really does an awesome job at that. Arcade only will definitely hurt EA if thats the case
It’s literally flicking the stick back and forth in a straight line.
Not the epitome of skill.
Ea will allow the player to customise the experience ,you can set the difficult and the swing difficulty and that is the draw for me when it comes to EA golf games they know what they are doing as they have been making golf games for decades . 2k PGA games have a very frustrating swing system and i will not use the button click system because golf games should be played with the stick controls.
@@A.D.D.O.C.D.T Holy shit you did not play 14's Simulation mode if you think simulation mode is easy AT ALL unless you were referring to the game we do not mention. 14's simulation mode is a nightmare to play.
When you say full sim, do you play with all the aiming and targeting cheats off? All the wind speed and elevation indicators off? Auto-caddy off? (Have to jerry-rig that in 2K21 because they removed the option, damn them.) I'm a sim fanatic. The only cheats/indicators I use are the yardage book distances and green grid. And I even tried the game shutting all that off but it was just too nuts even for me.
Same old story with EA versus it's competitors. They buy up all of the licenses and freeze out competition. We will never know who has the truly better game because of the overwhelming control EA has over the events, and real-life courses. Gameplay could suck, and graphics could be sub-par but because they have the licenses, they still thrive. I hate EA Sports.
Deal with it. EA makes the better games and can afford the liscenses.
@@ゆみす魔王 Reading comprehension has escaped you. You don't know which game is better because one game has all of the licensing. The licensing makes the game look better. No different than FIFA and PES. PES had the superior gameplay, graphics, and player models, but EA had the majority of the licensing. If EA didn't have all four major venues, would we be talking about getting this game? Nope.
2k has been absolutely garbage and they released it with so many bugs it's been ridiculous!! It literally took these bums 6 months to add ranked games and now it's gone due to mistakes on the leaderboards!! 2k is absolutely trash!!
It certainly has not been smooth for 2k. They have upgraded a good amount from 21 but definitely have their fair share of hiccups. Im curious how smoothly EA's launch will be.
Disappointed with 2k23. Still playing 2k21.
I'm waiting to play EA with the 10 hour trial. As much as I don't want to give them money, if they make the game just like the old 2010-2011 Tiger Woods titles, I'll buy it...on sale.
Smart play. From the most recent career trailer it appears that their will be quite a bit to play through on EA. I’m very excited
Without designer mod, the ea game will be boring quickly . I hope they work for a mod for the future
I think with the large (comparatively vs older EA games) list of courses they have it will carry them through the golf season. I’d be curious to see where both games are at this fall.
Absolutely nuts that there are two AAA golf games to play in 2023.
Without EA attempting to come in the market I wonder how slow 2k would have been to develop ranked and cross play. Its surprising how absent golf has been from quality gaming in recent years though as a whole.
Is it even AAA if it's locked at 30FPS?
@@AEH2102 AAA is generally the resources that went into making the game, not what the frame rate is.
@James Earl I get that, but it also implies a certain standard, which 30 FPS doesn't meet.
Interested in hearing your thoughts now that we've all played both. Here's my take: The weird golfer models and faces, the truly awful cameras, the unbalanced game play, and the overall playing-in-mud chunkiness of EA's game sure makes me appreciate the silky-smooth, finished feel of 2K23. EA's game though wins in the season mode, challenge mode, and overall presentation department, and 2K/HB really needs to step up their game in that regard. Cheers.
I think it all circles back to how having both in the market will only push the other game to be more innovative. I’m really happy with EA but as you mentioned it certainly has it faults and 2k really nails the feeling of the golf swing. I couldn’t be happier to see both pushing each other forward. Will likely elaborate more on the podcast and hopeful to have some more RUclips posts in near future to dive in depth.
@@Kilbride10 Thanks for the reply. I'm a PC gamer and I sincerely appreciate the fact we now have two games to choose from, it's been years! The thing is I go back to the sim days of Links and Microsoft Golf. I play 2K23 with all the aiming and targeting assists off. I even reset my clubs to normal swing before setting up my next shot, so as to nullify the auto-caddie feature. And I can do all that in 2K23. But in EA's game, there's no way to shut any of that off. There is so much hand-holding, it feels like a target practice game with the auto-distance club selection, and the targeting arrows and landing spots showing me where my shot will end up. Also -- and this is really important to me because I don't have internet all the time -- EA's game will not start up AT ALL without an internet connection. At least I can play 2K23 in offline mode without a connection, but not so with EA PGA Tour. Cheers and happy golfing.
@@boysilver2556 online requirements seem to becoming more and more common with newer games. It’s very unfortunate for those without connection or unstable connections. Hate to hear about the limitations unfortunately I doubt it will ever revert to not being a requirement
No course creator universe in EA leaves 2k23 as king
Massive advantage for 2k in that area. Officially licensed majors will grab quite a large number of eyes though
Ea easily 2k is 🗑️
Have you played 2k23? Anything in particular that you dislike or just everything?
Have both games, Despite mixed review on EA PGA Tour, but I still prefer the EA PGA Tour. I don't know how my laptop performance and fps is stable playing EA PGA Tour rather than 2K23 with same setting (High), which with that setting the graphic still better on EA PGA Tour. And the control are much easy on EA PGA Tour (3 click and Analog Swing in EA PGA Tour feels more forgiving). Also using bluetooth controller weirdly I feel more delays on 2K23. The plus side from 2K23 is Course designer and can get course from community, and it seems many mode you can play and it's cheaper (with discount it's almost half the price of EA PGA Tour).
Seem to be fairly cut and dry now that we have all the details. Gameplay and mechanics and graphics will go to ea, 2k win's on variety also due to the fact it has a course editor the societal aspect (online) for 2k i would assume would be much stronger as well as the fact they also added crossplay. Last to add to that list although its probably a little gimmicky it does feed back into the societal online aspect and that would be Top Golf. Presentation and sound im sure will go to ea for the biggest reason owning the course licensing to the majors, course presentation will have that tv broadcast aspect to it being able to have all that on screen branding and what not.
The biggest weakness i see for ea is pretty clear, no course designer i think really hurts the game's longevity. Won't deny coming out of the gate with 30 courses and a few more a long the way is strong (this will be an even bigger blow if they charge for those courses outside launch again considering the competition). For 2k it would be the game engine, unity has got to go, unreal or something else please. Now the game doesn't look horrid by any means however put it up side ea pga tour and to me it looks like we have a current gen and last gen game graphically. I held off on 2k will get ea pga tour even though that blow to the gut hurts with no course designer. I will be really curious in the future if 2k uses a better engine and if ea were to well not be ea and give us a course designer that would be spicy.
Great recap. Yeah 2k's next step is for sure a bump up on engine and graphics which is a large deterrent for the consumer. Additionally the course licensing is something they will always battle with even if there are "secret Augusta" versions thanks to their designer mode.
@@Kilbride10 Yeah deeper pockets will always prevail with licensing. For me though honestly i would forgo any contract of licensing and the pageantry it provides onscreen and it's presentation. As long as the course its modeled accurately and knowing through a course creator the possibilities would be endless to a degree, give me the ladder rather then the former. Course creation with good course makers in the community for me will always trump any type of extra shine licensing can give through presentation. All depends what the end user values more, obviously you can see the side that i lean toward.
@@thedutchrutter16 I defintley agree on that standpoint. The licensing will still be tricky as if completely foregone then the courses like Augusta do threaten legal action... so its a tough balance. Course designer keeps my enjoyment going week in and week out and it has from TGC 19 through now with 2k.
Augusta is IN 2K23 people forget that. There are some awesomely designed versions of it that play almost identical to how it was in old EA games. 2K has infinitely more to offer and plays closer to real golf imo.
Nobody cares about player created courses that will get nuked by 2k once they are found out
Have you played Augusta on Tiger Woods 2008 on PC? I'm currently playing a custom 2022-2023 PGA season with the current roster and courses. It's allot better than 2k21/2k23. It's old, but very good.
@@ravenwda007 I've tried it and it does not feel the same greens wise. Not easy but it is doable.
@@ゆみす魔王 yes. It's not easy with dry greens. Could only manage to make even due to putting mistakes using 3-click.
This is true however its very well protected and 2k is unable to market it and add to the calendar in career mode. While I personally do play it in 23 having the official license is “major” (terrible joke). That being said the 2k course selection can not be matched, I wonder if the recent ranked and cross play will continue to draw traffic to their title.
I miss the arcade style of TW PGA 2004-6
Hopefully EA knocks it out of the park on this release for you. It appears some of those older features will be there
EA’s Realistic graphics look much better not as blurry or blotchy as 2Ks
No doubt about that! Hope the gameplay feels as good as it looks