Anesthetic action links consciousness to quantum vibrations - S. Hameroff - 6/11/2018

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  • "Anesthetic action links consciousness to quantum vibrations in brain microtubules," talk by Stuart Hameroff, Professor, Anesthesiology and Psychology
    Director, Center for Consciousness Studies
    Banner-University Medical Center, The University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona.
    For more information: www.caltech.ed...
    ©2018 California Institute of Technology

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  • @brucemaciver9309
    @brucemaciver9309 6 лет назад +29

    Keep in mind that the Orch OR theory, proposed here, nicely explains both the origin (underlying mechanism) and universality of consciousness.

  • @andrewbrodis1239
    @andrewbrodis1239 Год назад +2

    This presentation is excellent in explaining the correct perspective. It lacks connectivity to an underlying fact that science is (for the most part) blind to. That is the directionality of Time as a consequence of expansion. We evolved in a reality that is co-moving in radial expansion. Close to us, we have gravitational connection and are co-moving along the same radial. Far from us, we can see the effect of divergent radial trajectory as "redshift". As matter is stuff that creates mass by resisting 3 dimensions of expansion, it radiates radially @ universal constant, within an overall space that is expanding at the dame rate spherically. This Differential Expansion is the reason we see light in time. (Given a proper forum, I'd be happy to explain all details on the theory behind these statements.) So we evolved in this time organization of light and that is how we create a mental account of all sensory input. The perspective of a "present moment" consists of the closest expanded visible past, in any direction (Shortest spacetime path).

  • @LiLi-or2gm
    @LiLi-or2gm 6 лет назад +56

    After watching this I am not as skeptical as I was when I first heard of and read Hameroff and Penrose's work several years ago. The experimental results in recent years are pretty darn compelling.

    • @periurban
      @periurban 6 лет назад +22

      I think it's probably the best and most complete theory of consciousness we have.

    • @hai.1820
      @hai.1820 6 лет назад +6

      Agreed

    • @Userkzb20253
      @Userkzb20253 4 года назад +3

      Is there a compilation of these experimental results?

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад +2

      You can test it through nonwestern philosophy as I did to finish my Master's degree. Collagen is piezoelectric. Dr. Andrija Puharich figured out this ultrasound secret also. He was a CIA mind control scientist.

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад +2

      @@Userkzb20253 they have conferences every year. Posted on youtube

  • @chrisschouest8997
    @chrisschouest8997 4 года назад +16

    These are two highly respected professionals at the top of their fields trying to answer some of the most difficult mysteries in the universe. Hats off to them. I need to go back to organic chemistry...

  • @adon2424
    @adon2424 5 лет назад +9

    It is great to see that this theory is getting a lot of notice!

  • @ammaralado5930
    @ammaralado5930 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the brilliant work done by Stewart and his colleagues. This is a great step to understand consciousness.

  • @ismailnyeyusof3520
    @ismailnyeyusof3520 3 года назад +3

    There are things here that can certainly be useful for the recovery of mental health level in the aging.

  • @GBuckne
    @GBuckne 6 лет назад +19

    ..the thing is if there is entanglement with spacetime geometries it could explain some so called "paranormal" phenomena...

    • @choaticblack
      @choaticblack 4 года назад +2

      Dmt

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 3 года назад +3

      We will understand Entanglement when we find a different POV to view it from. At the moment its like we are looking down the wrong end of a telescope or Binoculars. We are viewing something with our current perspective, but an out of focus image will look quite different from an in focus image. This will come out of Electro magnetism. When this is seen as the underlying fundamental of the universe, other things will start to make a lot more sense (and yeh that would include what we currently think of as Paranormal)

    • @starxcrossed
      @starxcrossed 2 года назад

      @@jacksmith4460 I have this intuition as well, how did you come to this conclusion?

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time
    @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time 2 года назад +4

    Each one of us is always in 'the moment of now' looking out at the universe with an objective reality that is always spontaneously changing moment by moment. Throughout this changing process consciousness remains in 'the moment of now' this is happening within a process that we measure over a period of time and see and feel as the flow of time. It might seem like madness to try and explain this using physics and mathematics because modern physics has no understanding of 'the moment of now' and no real understanding of what consciousness is. Also without a concept of 'the moment of now' we can have no real understanding of 'time' and why the future is always uncertain. This theory takes the simple principle that large objects are always based on the interaction of smaller objects Therefore it is logical that to understand the nature of reality we have to look down into the atoms. When we do this we find the physics of quantum mechanics that only really has a mathematical understanding. The odd thing is that the mathematics of quantum mechanics does not form certainty but uncertainty in the form of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. In this theory the uncertainty in everyday life in the form of a future that is always uncertain is based on the process that forms Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. If we look at the process that forms Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle we find that it is formed by the quantum wave particle function. This is a mathematic function formed by the spontaneous absorption and emission of light. Therefore we have a process that is spontaneous just like the flow of time in our everyday life with the future spontaneously coming into existence moment by moment. In this theory quantum mechanics represents the physics of 'time' as a physical process with the future coming into existence photon by photon with each new photon electron coupling or dipole moment.

  • @sherlockholmeslives.1605
    @sherlockholmeslives.1605 5 лет назад +10

    I failed GCE physics with an F grade from school but that doesn't mean I am thick.
    I enjoyed watching physics documentaries at school.
    It was just all the bullying that got me down!

  • @kevinmgn3641
    @kevinmgn3641 Год назад +1

    Wow. Very impressed by the work on microtubules, more than the Orch OR theory. There seems to be a lot of data on the former which will help in time to converge on the truth behind consciousness. But be careful not to connect too much your work with the latter because the level of data is close to none on OR.
    In any case, I'm more and more convinced that consciousness is a persistent quantum process even when facing the always decoherence-inducing environment. If we are entangled with what we see, may I suggest we experiment what happens to the brain when looking at 613THz visible light in a prolonged way?

  • @3693G
    @3693G 4 года назад +7

    Tremendous presentation, well done.

    • @simonmasters3295
      @simonmasters3295 3 года назад

      "I have been doing this some time but I'm not in this photo."

  • @manipulativer
    @manipulativer Год назад

    awesome stuff

  • @sethhorras8519
    @sethhorras8519 4 года назад +2

    Wow thank you so much for this content!

  • @keybutnolock
    @keybutnolock 6 лет назад +2

    Wow, food for thought.

  • @KipIngram
    @KipIngram 2 года назад

    Very nice, impressive work.

  • @mrhaze000
    @mrhaze000 2 года назад

    Amazing breakthrough

  • @alanshteynberg2108
    @alanshteynberg2108 3 года назад +2

    Can confirm everything he says. Synthetic AI telepathy is an operation based on quantum non-locality. I do nitrous gas and the synthetic telepathy is non-existant, until the gas dissipates, at which point it comes back.

    • @LS-qu7yc
      @LS-qu7yc 2 года назад +4

      What is “synthetic” telepathy?

  • @jeremiahshine
    @jeremiahshine 2 года назад +1

    Has anyone looked into the helminth species of Acanthacephala? Known as the "mind control worm" it modifies the behavior of the host to "move up the ladder" to a more complex host species.

  • @stelinium572
    @stelinium572 4 года назад +4

    This is a very interesting video that shows how consciousness interacts with the brain but never say's this is ware consciousness is created or produced.

  • @waveofthoughts
    @waveofthoughts 6 лет назад +5

    We are connected to the universe, one being part of another like layers. As far as consciousness being separate from the universe..the program that created life to be in existence, is the program we follow within the field of the universe. We may create our own interpretations, but in the end, it all comes back to the program. Without the program..we would not be here. It's like we are the experiment interpreting itself, because the "creator" cannot .

    • @yourdedcat-qr7ln
      @yourdedcat-qr7ln 2 года назад

      We are the universal hive mind creator divided into perfect balance

  • @crocodilearms2093
    @crocodilearms2093 Год назад +1

    Microtubules made me say this.

  • @addahandle-k8d
    @addahandle-k8d 3 года назад

    My little lips got stuck. Helping doesn't hurt.

  • @alanshteynberg2108
    @alanshteynberg2108 3 года назад

    613 terahertz frequency for quantum coherence activity? 613 mitzvot? Applies to all brains from the looks of it?

  • @upgrade1583
    @upgrade1583 6 лет назад +3

    The fixed rules of physics are perfectly tweaked to create life at every scale, which in turn creates consciousness that creates reality. And that's how the universe evolves itself.

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards 6 лет назад +1

      "fixed rules" is a bad way of thinking about physics.
      And there is/was no "tweaking".

    • @mathabroad8908
      @mathabroad8908 4 года назад +5

      Um I think you misunderstood hameroff penrose - I believe they are saying consciousness is an intrinsic property of the universe and it creates life. Not the other way around as you stated.

  • @rodschmidt8952
    @rodschmidt8952 2 года назад

    So can we build artificial microtubules?

  • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
    @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 года назад

    what about Boron Nitride?

  • @hai.1820
    @hai.1820 6 лет назад +1

    A get high device? that would make billions!

  • @hai.1820
    @hai.1820 3 года назад +4

    They have put together a.very complete theory which is very falsifible. This wise man has been telling these things for years tirelessly and yet very few has hearf him or took seriously.

  • @babanadopu
    @babanadopu 4 года назад +3

    Honestly, it's kinda hard for me to accept that we have evolved basically a quantum computer in our head in order to fascilitate consciousness. If the eye took like 500 million years to evolve, how long would this thing have taken? Both the theory of evolution and this Orch OR theory are hard for me to swallow on their on, but having them coexist... I don't know man

    • @LS-qu7yc
      @LS-qu7yc 2 года назад +1

      What? Plants use so-called quantum action for photosynthesis. It’s everywhere in nature why wouldn’t it be in brains? Before there was evolution the quantum fields existed according to physics. We didn’t evolve to know that in any obvious way

    • @arandomguyontheinternet756
      @arandomguyontheinternet756 2 года назад +1

      Well , the microtubules are even in primitive cells, they use them for many things such as reproduction , so when you have pre-existing structures why not use them to allso make consciousness.

    • @kevinmgn3641
      @kevinmgn3641 Год назад

      It's been there for a while and moreover the underlying structure is super simple when you look at it: a chain of tubulins repeated over and over. The exceptional complex potency comes from all the degrees of freedom (dipole chain states) allowed by this repeated structure and the high level of coherence it allows between all the pieces.

  • @horizonberg
    @horizonberg 6 лет назад +4

    Please build something with microtubules to test your hypothesis before drawing any more premature conclusions.

    • @AmericanBrain
      @AmericanBrain 4 года назад +6

      Please give your name before offering suggestions?

    • @pythIV
      @pythIV 3 года назад +7

      please build a conscious computer/organism before drawing any more premature conclusions.

  • @nicholasmartin297
    @nicholasmartin297 2 года назад +1

    I wish he wouldn’t speak so quickly.

  • @333STONE
    @333STONE 6 лет назад +1

    You want the full story ? Look into Orion in the Vatican or blackhole Son on Danny Wiltens channel. Are u wanting big answers for the big questions well here they are, as ll backed up by several years of research....

  • @alvincay100
    @alvincay100 6 лет назад +7

    Quack, quack, quack

    • @cnacma
      @cnacma 6 лет назад +5

      Calvin Smith good counter argument. Might as well do some real quackery like Shermer the rapist and you could make some money

    • @maththink3899
      @maththink3899 5 лет назад +9

      Smith you must teach at Modesto Community College, majoring in towels, given your profound insight

  • @volta2aire
    @volta2aire 5 лет назад +4

    49:43 "Well, we got criticized." No kidding.
    Too many concepts without a convincing story to bring them together.

    • @pythIV
      @pythIV 3 года назад +2

      it is better than having no concept at all, isn't it ? You obviously should learn to listen and understand at the same time.

    • @kevinmgn3641
      @kevinmgn3641 Год назад

      On such an important topic, I'd rather have strong concepts to link later on than an early story which is flawed from the start.

    • @volta2aire
      @volta2aire Год назад

      Critical thinking is hard work! Uncritical thinkers push junk that we should not accept. A hypothesis about anesthesia is interesting. But, extending it to conscious perception and free will is not credible. And, what does this have to do with space-time curvature?

  • @RVGENomini
    @RVGENomini 6 лет назад +2

    Still trying to sell this guy's stuff? Been around since 06 or earlier. He brought penrose in to make his papers unreadable.

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards 6 лет назад +1

      That and Penrose is a theist who desperately searches for ways around the otherwise bleakly-atheistic nature of physics.

    • @RVGENomini
      @RVGENomini 6 лет назад

      Didn't know that, it's too bad. They're both very smart individuals.

    • @thejollysatan
      @thejollysatan 6 лет назад +7

      So you have some one else to show me that can explain how anesthetics work & has a working testable model of consciousness?

    • @azimovwatts6425
      @azimovwatts6425 4 года назад

      @Bob Smith Thank you