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  • @DonaldAMisc
    @DonaldAMisc Год назад +385

    "If responsible people don't address real problems in a straightforward way, irresponsible people are going to exploit them." 💥

    • @miggans21012
      @miggans21012 Год назад +20

      Looks like to me that's what's happening now.

    • @marie_84
      @marie_84 Год назад

      It's not that easy, when u f.e. were born in a narcissistic family. It's normal for the child. It takes yrs...to recognize what's going on. And the damage is done. And maybe u not gonna make it alive out of it.

    • @RJT80
      @RJT80 Год назад

      I'm sure that sounds great to liberals who fear Republicans while it was liberal governors and mayors who sent police out to beeches to chase people off during Covid and buried skateparks in sand but the reality is this started long ago. The suffrage activists were in lockstep with the birth control activists who didn't want Italian and Irish immigrants from aiv g too many kids. They both wanted to massively disrupt the family system overall and emancipate women. They'd also go on to get prohibition passed. The results of all their actions are obvious.

    • @kipapula6838
      @kipapula6838 Год назад +8

      We need more responsible men to come out and speak. And we should back them when they get attacked by companies and organizations who like shutting people

    • @ChildrensRightsFirst947
      @ChildrensRightsFirst947 Год назад +1

      No one has a problem with men speaking up for men. I just want to know why Bill Maher and many others aren't showing the same concern for making certain male dominant places being more desirable places for women to join.
      Does Bill care about getting more women into STEM?
      Women started to excel over men in one area other than fashion, beauty, and motherhood so only now does he freak out.

  • @god563616
    @god563616 Год назад +45

    I'm a woman and its really disgusting to me for the clasp of women doing good in education
    yet pure silence as he describes how Men and boys are struggling. We need EACH OTHER! BOTH SEXES to thrive!

    • @brandy4530
      @brandy4530 11 месяцев назад +5

      I guess hearing about how boys are struggling isn’t something to clap about.

    • @akimorita
      @akimorita 9 месяцев назад +4

      why are you supposed to clap when he's talking about something sad? the right thing to do is keep silent, and that's what they've done. By the way I also found those clapping moments a little annoying tbh

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 6 месяцев назад +2

      What's disgusting is that Richard Reeves chalks the problem up to a "level playing field", when research shows there's a significant grading bias from teachers. If you give teachers an identical assignment, one with a female name and one with a male name, they will grade the male one 3 percentage points lower. That's the difference between a B- and C+. And I'm supposed to believe that with all the time Richard Reeves spent studying these issues, he never came across this data?
      The left has just switched from hateful misandry to patronizing misandry.

    • @Iamhere829
      @Iamhere829 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Dennis-nc3vw Listen, even in tests which are graded with anonymity of identity of the students.. women did better like Pisa..
      It is due to the fact that boys are being helped educationally but the it not only because bias... it's also because men are educationally getting behind women...If you still kept going on with the delusion of "ohh pfft wAhMen iS sTupid" and that "it's all because of bias" you'll never be truly able to help men if you don't recognise that men do mature much slower than women..a 11 year old girl has more impulse control than a 25 year old man....And that's a fact..
      That just makes girls better at education..

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Iamhere829 This isn't true, boys do better at standardized tests, ie tests that have be graded impartially because there's an answer key.

  • @vitaliym.300
    @vitaliym.300 Год назад +183

    Dude, most of my female teachers paid almost no attention to boys and favored girls. I often felt mild hostility from them. Somehow, as a ten-year old, I was at fault for something.

    • @121374j
      @121374j Год назад +9

      Extreme feminists what is doing this shit to put it nice

    • @quakefan8810
      @quakefan8810 Год назад +2

      Exactly Vitaly V,. It starts there and gets worse in life

    • @Bean_ina_Beanbag
      @Bean_ina_Beanbag Год назад

      Had a bitch English teacher like this in HS

    • @Mikeoxlonggggggg
      @Mikeoxlonggggggg Год назад +3

      Had the same experience

    • @ch33zyburrito36
      @ch33zyburrito36 Год назад +2

      I noticed it from a very young age too. The boys were always getting in trouble and the girls were always being applauded for being so good

  • @nickb3751
    @nickb3751 Год назад +252

    I was that kid in school, couldn’t pay attention, couldn’t sit still. I got into a union apprenticeship rather than going to college and it probably saved my life.

    • @danzwku
      @danzwku Год назад +2

      which trade?

    • @RJT80
      @RJT80 Год назад

      7 million working age men have dropped out entirely. So much of the system has been rigged against them for 50 years now. One of the things this country absolutely must do is start a robust apprenticeship program for millions of men. Beyond the hopelessness issue we have a major problem with young men not following their father's into jobs that actually make the world go round. Trades, train drivers, farmers etc. Those jobs are enot being filled. And then what?Our service economy is filled with office jobs that could disappear tomorrow and nobody would notice. It's part of the reason Russia survived sanctions. When you subtract the app maker jobs and other worthless shit, Russia's economy is actually larger than Germany's. They make things and pull resources out of the ground and that still powers life whether people like it or not.

    • @theBear89451
      @theBear89451 Год назад +2

      Did you need two sentences to say, "I am man"?

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад +8

      And that definitely was the right thing for you - there should always be such a path for boys like you were. Glad for you!

    • @wtcashel
      @wtcashel Год назад

      And??

  • @kevinkent3663
    @kevinkent3663 Год назад +204

    As a male highschool teacher I agree that PE is critical, and that boys don't get enough hands on classes where they can thrive and feel a real feel of accomplishment.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад +10

      What about humiliation, embarrassment, rejection, alienation, and abject failure? Or do you think every boy excels at PE?

    • @LeukipposOfAbdera
      @LeukipposOfAbdera Год назад +10

      @@stephenryder1995 The only way to get better is by doing. Just because you or someone else didn’t thrive with more PE (being the exception to the rule) doesn’t mean the general rule isn’t true. Studies verify this.
      Further, not every boy is good at every activity. You can also have masculine-focused poetry classes, where some boys will excel more than others. It’s easier to pretend that all poetry is equal - that also needs to stop. It’s best to allow boys (and girls) to explore and find their talents, not merely learn the “right way” to do things.
      If security is more important to you than achievement or creativity, then we ought to continue with the soul-crushing garbage.

    • @theBear89451
      @theBear89451 Год назад +2

      @@stephenryder1995 It's not about excelling in PE. It is about PE causing kids to excel in history.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад +2

      @@theBear89451 Oh gee, thank you so much for pointing that out to me - after all, with my obvious cognitive dissonance such assistance is mandatory. Yes, you are entirely correct, and in my 40 years as an Ivy League history professor, my ursaline friend, I am therefore compelled to report the following: What absolute BULLSHIT. 'Fellowships' don't teach the difference between one's gluteus maximus and a hole-in-the wall, but they do paper that wall with lucre. In return they expect some publicizeable product to justify their existence. Hence the mandatory issuance of what is often nothing more than a literary confluence of random speculations puncuated by the occaisional unsupportable neo-factoid. This post-graduate survival technique is also known as Absurditas abundantia, and is never taken seriously by actual scholars.

    • @biondna7984
      @biondna7984 Год назад +4

      I agree with Kevin Kent. Further, as a woman who had her (life-defining) ADHD diagnosed at AGE 47, I know that there are women like me who would've benefitted greatly by more physical, hands-on, and trade-related classes. I could take home-economics when I was in school, but they wouldn't let girls in wood shop or auto shop. Wood shop, I yearned for. Now I gather they don't even have those classes for anyone anymore. THAT'S insane.

  • @MNkno
    @MNkno Год назад +178

    We lived next to a Japanese elementary/jr high school.. and every day, in shifts all day, they had all the kids over 9yrs old running around the perimeter of the school campus, uphill and downhill. 5 times around the block, and everybody was ready to sit down quietly in class. It looked like a very good solution to the problem of not being able to sit still in class. (Their sports teams ran 10-20 times around the block after classes finished, around 4pm.)

    • @petesmitt
      @petesmitt Год назад +13

      When I went through Army recruit course, the first thing we did each morning was go for a 30 minute run, then the rest of the day was spent doing the various learning modules; makes sense in retrospect.

    • @Omni0404
      @Omni0404 Год назад +13

      I don't know if it's still the case but students also take an active role in keeping their schools clean. More physical activity and it seems like it would build character.

    • @tres311
      @tres311 Год назад +5

      WWJD. What would a Japanese do should be our national motto. Japanese do everything with excellence and common sense.

    • @aligensa
      @aligensa Год назад +2

      Combining education of the body and mind was already a principle in Greek philosophy, it was called healthy mind in a healthy body. That's why German high schools to this day are called "gymnasiums". The Chinese do Tai Chi, the Hindus Yoga.

    • @denellsullada7697
      @denellsullada7697 Год назад +4

      My son in elementary school about 10 years ago had great teachers. After each subject the teacher would put music on and the kids danced their hearts out! The class of 30 was about 2/3 male :)

  • @lscandrick0531
    @lscandrick0531 Год назад +141

    He is speaking the true about how males are treated in school....my son elementary school treacher complained that he could not sit still or complete assignments....encouraged us to take him to his peds MD to be place on ADD meds... .my son peds MD said no to ADD meds and said your son is not being challenged at that school...he encouraged us to change school.. fast forward my son is a college grad and on his way to medical school

    • @joshuabarrick5468
      @joshuabarrick5468 Год назад +7

      Congrats to your son! I’ve worked in nurseries and from the very beginning boys are far more likely to be kinaesthetic learners compared to girls, yet we still use a Victorian-style rigid classroom base teaching environment (ironically made for men) which doesn’t help boys at all.

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... Год назад +6

      I had the exact same problem.
      I'm an MD 😁

    • @endrawes0
      @endrawes0 Год назад +8

      This is very much my story as well.
      I'm so glad my parents chose not to medicate me.

    • @endrawes0
      @endrawes0 Год назад +5

      To add, my parents only chose not to medicate me because they couldn't afford it - not due to some insightful, better-knowing doctor.

    • @PlayNiceFolks
      @PlayNiceFolks Год назад

      Tried

  • @teacherdavid--eatplaylearn5013
    @teacherdavid--eatplaylearn5013 Год назад +13

    Blessings from Taiwan 🇹🇼🧧🤗
    Thank you, Richard Reeves, to point out this IMPORTANT ISSUE in the world, especially in the U.S.🧐
    This is another REASON why I want to become a MALE TEACHER in the education field, especially in preschool and elementary, so I can HELP to RAISE these boys into MEN by building a GOOD FOUNDATION for them.💪🤩👍
    Keep up your great work !👍👍👍
    God bless you, your family, and your work 😇🧧🥰

  • @kathyrama4570
    @kathyrama4570 Год назад +67

    The Education system from K thru 12 in America has been broken for decades.

    • @walterwhite5674
      @walterwhite5674 Год назад +6

      Unions.

    • @gaylordcomic
      @gaylordcomic Год назад +4

      @@walterwhite5674 there are multiple faults from the amount of curriculums to the teachers seeking control. Personally I'm a big fan of big picture learning which has a big focus on personal interest projects.

    • @HexIsme
      @HexIsme Год назад +4

      Well it hasn't changed its material since kids were working in factories...

    • @cardenfoy
      @cardenfoy Год назад

      Women broke it. They break everything because its easier to bring others down than lift everyone up.

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 Год назад +2

      It never worked

  • @SeyhawksNow
    @SeyhawksNow Год назад +71

    I didn’t have a male teacher until I was in high school, and even then it was probably a ratio of 1 man for every 4 women that taught me. It concerned me because as a boy, the women teachers saw me as a burden more than a student, and I know I wasn't the only one treated that way

    • @hughjazzole2037
      @hughjazzole2037 Год назад

      YEA!! I HAD 2 WOMEN TEACHERS THAT TAUGHT SCIENCE.tHE 1ST ONE SAID SAND CANT BEW BLOWN HIGHER THAN 3 FT.!! tHE 2ND BITCH AT tr HIGH SCHOOL NORTHERN WHEN I ASKED A QUESTION REFUSED TO ANSWER WHEN i DIDNBT I=UNDERSTAND,& IGNORED ME.

    • @juliejensen7370
      @juliejensen7370 Год назад +8

      Too bad more men go for the money and not the caring professions.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Год назад

      “Women choose to go into lower paying professions.”
      I think this is relevant to a conservative here.

    • @bartimisfoul3459
      @bartimisfoul3459 Год назад

      @@wildfire9280 higher paying jobs generally have more physical risk

    • @JohnCarterRocks
      @JohnCarterRocks 8 месяцев назад +1

      Horse manure.

  • @godadinc-jesse
    @godadinc-jesse Год назад +8

    Raising the truth requires a risk. I'm grateful Reeves didn't hesitate. It's easy to see how the scales have tipped, especially in education. I agree with Reeves that there is no reason why issues that affect both males and females can be kept before us. Men can't identify a sense of purpose or belief in themselves in several areas. This should matter to all of us so we can sustain a thriving being of life.

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 6 месяцев назад

      "The Democrats are playing you for chumps." - Malcolm X
      Richard Reeves chalks the underperformance of boys to a "level playing field" when studies show there's a grading bias against boys. Teachers will grade identical assignments 3% lower if they have a male name instead of a female one. That's the difference between a B+ and an A-. If find it VERY hard to believe Richard never came across this data studying this issue.
      90% of Democrats don't care about boys and men, they want to commandeer these issues for selfish reasons, while doing as little to actually address societal misandry as possible.

  • @warsurplus
    @warsurplus Год назад +51

    Richard Reeves and Bill are on different wavelengths.

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury Год назад +3

      Yes, and Bill mansplains against his sex. Internalized misandry?

    • @warsurplus
      @warsurplus Год назад +15

      @@willmercury I disagree. I think Bill is tired of the coddling of american youth which I think he believes contributes to what Reeves' book is describing.

    • @TagSpamCop
      @TagSpamCop Год назад +3

      @@warsurplus The problem is that it's the _only_ thing he thinks contributes to it. Which is as bad as "systemic racism"/"systemic whatever." Univariate takes aren't any better when it comes men's issues. Richard seems to have better detail which we're not really getting into here, as Bill is fixating on his favorite hobbyhorse.

    • @warsurplus
      @warsurplus Год назад +4

      @@TagSpamCop I appreciate your points but why can't personal accountability ever be part of the solution alongside the "systematic whatever". I know not everyone has the same opportunities, but we're now at a point where the only cause is the "systematic whatever". Thanks the civil reply.

    • @HonkHonkler
      @HonkHonkler Год назад

      I hope society collapses. Why continue to sacrifice your well-being for a system (and people, women mainly) that hate you? Oh that's right because POOR WAHMEN. Nah, to any young man (or logical man reading this comment), don't be fooled by people like Richard Reeves. No one ACTUALLY cares about out issues, it's all about getting us back on the plantation (labor force/marriage) for the sake of WOMEN & SOCIETY. They need more logs to toss on to the pyre that is western society. Without is, things fall apart. Let them, this is the world that nurtured for so long. Let them reap their benefits lol. Let them figure it out on their own because I'm done being a slave.

  • @FredRedFrred
    @FredRedFrred Год назад +21

    One very bright Texas Phys-Ed teacher last year suggested they take the boys for a run before school to vent their ancy predispositions. Grades went up. Fights went down.

  • @tylerpond1229
    @tylerpond1229 Год назад +85

    Why is the goal “college”? Let’s make it actual success. More than half of those in college made a bad decision by going.

    • @user-cg7wt3bx5y
      @user-cg7wt3bx5y Год назад +1

      He mentioned other options...

    • @svscared
      @svscared Год назад +6

      Not me. College was one of the best things to happen to me. All for success but college can and should be a huge stepping stone to that.

    • @scarpfish
      @scarpfish Год назад +4

      @@svscared College could be a stepping stone for more people if we'd give kids (and their parents) better transparency on the ROI before saddling them with enough student loan debt to pay for a luxury car. Very few people know what they want to be when they're 18 and for its price tag, academia does a poor job of helping kids sort that out.

    • @svscared
      @svscared Год назад +4

      @@scarpfish I'm all for getting rid of student loan debt which is why I support making college free via taxes like many other first world countries.

    • @hedgefundphil
      @hedgefundphil Год назад

      because that is the only organization allowed to matter

  • @Mike-yi2gi
    @Mike-yi2gi Год назад +15

    School was a hellish experience of regularly getting the strap, suspensions and detention. I spent grade 5 at a desk in front of the principals office because they didn't know what to do with me. I went back to school when I was 24 and got a BA and a masters degree in subjects I was interested in.

    • @Cwgrlup
      @Cwgrlup Год назад

      This is a uniquely MALE thing?? Hardly. I was a female in trouble all the time in school. Arrested by the time I was 18 and doing drugs. Just stop with the victim mentality. What a bunch of whiny bitches. You have no idea what women go through-the sexist, vile shit we get put through growing up.

  • @norton750commando
    @norton750commando Год назад +21

    At my old high school, and most high schools in my city, the shop classes apparently disappeared a couple of decades ago. There used to be a full auto shop class, drafting, woodworking, electrical and sheet metal fabrication classes. That was the streaming location for the guys that didn't excel in the arts, literature or math fields. Nothing wrong with that, you have to give the young men what they may want to do with their lives. It's strange that they decided everyone must go to the higher levels of academia, even though a fair percentage would never pursue that direction. I had friends that went through the "shop" classes that turned out to have very interesting and lucrative careers. We are paying for it now with the high demand for the people that can do these skills.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад

      I had a Norton Commando 'S' 750 CC in Candy apple red in 1971 - monster bike, but too often kicked back when you kick started it

    • @norton750commando
      @norton750commando Год назад

      @@stephenryder1995 Kick starting that son of a bitch was an art. Just getting the choke right took a few tries. Not a bike for a hasty getaway. Mine was a gold 72.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад

      @@norton750commando Ahhh - back in the days when we were crazy, eh?

    • @norton750commando
      @norton750commando Год назад

      @@stephenryder1995 Far too long ago now. Haven't owned a bike since 78, when 3 friends in 2 years were seriously hurt riding through no fault of their own. Made me really think.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад

      @@norton750commando My day job was Motor Officer - Big white FLH - A friend of mine in Motorcycle 1 (NYPD) was killed on his - in a sudden rain - I saw too many other guys maimed - gave it up after I dropped mine once, walked on a cane for 6 months - got away lucky....50 years ago now

  • @bobdroll6381
    @bobdroll6381 Год назад +67

    I liked him and what he had to say, hope to hear more from him in the future.

    • @dmr6390
      @dmr6390 Год назад +5

      He has done a ton of good long form interviews on people’s podcasts: Andrew Yang’s podcast, Coleman Hughes’ podcast, breaking points, Reason Tv

    • @mattheww2797
      @mattheww2797 Год назад

      His book is a good read too

    • @HonkHonkler
      @HonkHonkler Год назад

      I hope society collapses. Why continue to sacrifice your well-being for a system (and people, women mainly) that hate you? Oh that's right because POOR WAHMEN. Nah, to any young man (or logical man reading this comment), don't be fooled by people like Richard Reeves. No one ACTUALLY cares about out issues, it's all about getting us back on the plantation (labor force/marriage) for the sake of WOMEN & SOCIETY. They need more logs to toss on to the pyre that is western society. Without is, things fall apart. Let them, this is the world that nurtured for so long. Let them reap their benefits lol. Let them figure it out on their own because I'm done being a slave.

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 6 месяцев назад

      He attributes boys under performance in school to "girls are just better at school", even though studies show a severe grading bias against boys (ie teachers will grade identical assignments higher if they have female names). What are the odds he never came across that data doing all the research he did for this book?
      "The Democrats are playing you for chumps." - Malcolm X

  • @kipapula6838
    @kipapula6838 Год назад +27

    We need more men talking about men and boys issues like Mr.Reeves. The suggestions to helping boys in schools is right on.

    • @TagSpamCop
      @TagSpamCop Год назад

      "bUt WhAt AbOuT wOmEn?!?! pAtRiArChY wInS aGaIn!!!!" Feminists literally insist you must frame the concerns of men and boys through Feminist/Patriarchy Theory, because "fEmInIsM CaReS AbOuT ThIs!!!"
      They would insist that all of this is due to "pAtRiArChY hUrTs MeN tOo!!!" or that "tHiS Is tOxIc mAsCuLiNiTy rEaCtInG To fEmAlE SuCcEsS" or "bOyS ArE FiNaLlY GeTtInG A TaStE Of cOmInG In sEcOnD".
      Men are currently accustomed to putting women and their concerns first, and those who don't do that are dismissed as sexist dude-bros. When the whining from women about men really started to take off, men started to opt out and just said, fine, we'll do our own thing. One of the first cases of "your terms are acceptable." That in itself became feminist catnip, that men leaving keeping their distance from women - as feminists had always wanted - was suddenly misogyny too.

    • @MrXaphus
      @MrXaphus Год назад

      We do, and it helps, but its the same arguments that Warren Farrell has been making for years and it always ends up hitting the buffers because its a pro-male policy, and it goes against the prevailing agenda of the day to promote pro-male policies. What we need alongside the male movement is a basic acknowledgement from the feminist movement that its actually in their interest to be implementing the suggestions described by Richard Reeves and Warren Farrell and others, instead of meeting a wall of resistance from the outset because it "doesn't send the right message".

    • @HonkHonkler
      @HonkHonkler Год назад

      I hope society collapses. Why continue to sacrifice your well-being for a system (and people, women mainly) that hate you? Oh that's right because POOR WAHMEN. Nah, to any young man (or logical man reading this comment), don't be fooled by people like Richard Reeves. No one ACTUALLY cares about out issues, it's all about getting us back on the plantation (labor force/marriage) for the sake of WOMEN & SOCIETY. They need more logs to toss on to the pyre that is western society. Without is, things fall apart. Let them, this is the world that nurtured for so long. Let them reap their benefits lol. Let them figure it out on their own because I'm done being a slave.

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 6 месяцев назад

      Please, I'd rather the left go back to openly hating boys and men than this condescending garbage. Richard Reeves says the problem is a level playing? What a crock of horseshit. Studies show teachers have a grading bias against boys, and will grade an identical assignment 3 points lower if it has a male name than a female name. That's the difference between a B and a B+. And I'm supposed to believe that with all the research Richard Reeves put into this book, he never came across these studies?

  • @RM-ed1if
    @RM-ed1if Год назад +20

    Most men don't want to teach K-12 because of the paltry salary and unpaid hours. Also, most men would rather leave child education to women because they find it boring, and bothersome, and they believe women have a kinder disposition and ability to handle kids. At least that's the case in U.S.
    However, boys do need more discipline at school than girls do, especially starting in the 7th grade when puberty starts to kick in. That lack of discipline in the classroom 7-12 leads to poor educational results, even negatively affecting those kids who were good to average students in elementary school.

    • @aeristone5941
      @aeristone5941 Год назад +3

      I'm a male K-12 teacher, and I mostly agree with you, especially on why most men don't want to teach. I can't agree, however, with the concept that male teachers will inherently bring more discipline, which seems to be what you're implying. Perhaps I'm mistaken on what you were inferring there, but there is no REAL and beneficial discipline of any sort in U.S. schools, except for what is brought from home/already existing in the student. Having more male teachers won't change the students who really need discipline. That's akin to believing that your deadbolt is actually meant to keep out criminals/makes you safe.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад +3

      @@aeristone5941 As a male 7-12 teacher I agree. But the lack of discipline in American schools is due to the administrators - the male teacher has no leeway - as you know. But I'll tell you this - there was iron discipline in my classroom because I didn't give a damn about the system. I was often in trouble with the Dean of Boys, but I told him he could fire me anytime he wanted to, but I will take no shit from any student. By the way, I was the most popular teacher in the school.

    • @Ryan88881
      @Ryan88881 Год назад

      More discipline? Nice trolling.

    • @aeristone5941
      @aeristone5941 Год назад +1

      @@stephenryder1995 Hahah yeah, I tried something similar, but it didn't pan out so well for me. It was 50-50 on "good days". More often than not though, it would just culminate in snotty parents coming in to complain that I was meaner to their "precious little angel" than the other kids...which of course would culminate in threats of me losing my job...like teach your precious angel shithead to not kick other kids, and I won't have to be so "mean" lol.

    • @aeristone5941
      @aeristone5941 Год назад

      @@Ryan88881 LOL Touche'

  • @ARichardP
    @ARichardP Год назад +14

    We had Ms. Smith in 6th Grade English. She was a gorgeous blonde in her early 20s who would sit on the front of her desk in short skirts while teaching. This was in 1971. She drove us all crazy. Unforgettable.

    • @r8chlletters
      @r8chlletters Год назад +4

      I’m sure you “paid attention”.

    • @abercrombieblovs2042
      @abercrombieblovs2042 Год назад

      @@r8chlletters Hey, the education system says it itself, "it doesn't matter how you do it, I just want to see straight A+'s on your report card" :D

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 4 месяца назад

      6th grade? Dude, Richard Reeves was right, that's early. There's a reason no society on Earth considered a boy a man at that age.

  • @dwaynecuster
    @dwaynecuster Год назад +14

    I went to a vocational high school for three years and learned everything about data processing and information systems at the cusp of the computer revolution and the dawn of the internet back in the late 80s. It prepared me to move into an occupation right out of high school. College would never have done that. Now, in my 50s, I'm working on my PhD because life experience has tempered the youthful rambunctiousness and energy I once had. When I was in my 20s I just wanted to get laid and party. It all worked out just the way it was supposed to.

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад

      Yeah, Dwayne - them ol' evil colleges - full'a commies an' perverts, right?

  • @Pelletajuton1
    @Pelletajuton1 Год назад +2

    "If responsible people don't address real problems in a straight-forward way, irrisponsible people are going to exploit them" 👌
    Can't physically put my thumbs high enough for this statement!! I remember when that one lunatic fringe dousche bag (i think it was hawley) talked about the problems of men, it really sent a nasty shiver down my spine.. there are a lot of us that feel left out of society, and feeling left out makes you especially vulnerable to be drawn into things that are orders of magnitude dumber than you are, just to feel useful, or needed, or feel like your existence matters.
    Problem is, i think men still feel like we are measured by standards that come from a time when women were oppressed into obeying men. And if someone can solve THAT equation, with nobody getting hurt, they have my utmost respect 😬

  • @TromboneRockGod
    @TromboneRockGod Год назад +5

    The biggest change that needs to happen in childhood education is to teach children how to think, not what to think. That begins with methodological naturalism and the scientific method. There are no other mechanisms ever invented by mankind that can better demonstrate the objective truths of reality and the natural world, better than the scientific method.

    • @webx135
      @webx135 Год назад +1

      YES. Also if we need to utilize self-directed learning where we can. Things like letting them choose a problem to solve and then providing them the resources as needed. Learning works best when it is actively chosen, and information is WAY better absorbed if the goal comes before the solution. SPeaking mostly about STEM classes here.
      In the case of a lot of math classes, they'll say "here's how you expand a polynomial" and "here's how you factor a polynomial". But then you don't use these things until way later. If you don't need the tool, there's no reason to keep it. If you start with a need before you get the tool, you know what tools to look for.

  • @84imreplica
    @84imreplica Год назад +1

    I'm a male and taught school for 35 years (retired in 2013). Even though I thoroughly enjoyed my years of teaching, I can say, with all honesty, I would not go into teaching today and would not recommend teaching as a career to any young man.

  • @mattmayo3539
    @mattmayo3539 Год назад +32

    When I taught first grade I always noticed the boys in my class would be the most likely to be diagnosed with a learning disability because they learned differently.

    • @rabbit251
      @rabbit251 Год назад +1

      You didn't learn this in your mandatory developmental psychology class? Maybe our higher education is the problem?

    • @pbajnow
      @pbajnow Год назад

      Listen to folks and observe them. Generalizations help, but inevitably we are individuals. 23 students max. per teacher.

    • @mattmayo3539
      @mattmayo3539 Год назад +3

      @@rabbit251 I did learn this. It’s seeing it unfold in real time that was hard to cope with.

    • @theBear89451
      @theBear89451 Год назад

      That's part of it, but don't ignore almost all diseases effect boys more than girls. Learning disability is a disease.

    • @mnob1122
      @mnob1122 Год назад +1

      I developed dyslexia in puberty. This was in the mid-60’s. Back then, no one knew what that was and I was just pushed through the system. I went from being an A-B student to a C-D student. I became very depressed and suicidal but managed to pull my self out of that state of mind. However, dyslexia and the lack of knowledge on how we learn differently ruined my life. I was unable to go to college or get a decent paying job. Oh, and I’m a woman.

  • @pete5691
    @pete5691 Год назад +4

    Watch an afternoon of children’s tv and take note of how many commercials encourage girls vs how many encourage boys. Pay attention to how men are portrayed vs women in commercials. Lastly if you watch any movies for children, look at how boy and girl protagonists are portrayed.

    • @interestingtimes6242
      @interestingtimes6242 Год назад

      I agree. This doesn’t get any attention, but it’s a huge factor. I recently tried to find a good male hero movie. I gave up. Star Wars is now a girl’s movie, James Bond is a feminized version of himself, and replaced by a woman. This has been done to every boy’s hero. And the trope is, she’s better at it without even trying. The men used to go through a transformational hero’s journey, the women are born superior, they don’t need to struggle (called the Mary Jane trope, it’s so common it has a name). The men are non sexual support characters at best, or buffoons. No wonder boys are demoralized and give up.

    • @pete5691
      @pete5691 Год назад +1

      @@interestingtimes6242 I try not to let my kids watch too much of it. A particularly egregious example is the movie Brave. There is just no part of that movie that represents any truth at all. The men are all buffoons and/or genetic rejects and she wants to just ride horses and shoot her bow and arrow.

  • @charmingpeasant9834
    @charmingpeasant9834 Год назад +2

    Universities also discriminate against men by offering scholarships and exclusive programs to women simply because they're women.

  • @AlexMoschopoulos
    @AlexMoschopoulos Год назад +9

    I have to agree a lot on the reform of education in bringing back physical education, recess, tech schools, and more to get many into vocational apprenticeships as opposed to just telling them they need to go to college. Give kids a choice, as opposed to telling them that being a trades person is somehow being a loser.
    Obviously, we also need to completely get rid of this standardized test BS that we do now. It's not helping the kids. You just can't standardize education. Everybody is different.
    However, I still feel like while many parents might worry about their boys, they are still not taking the steps they need to take. If I hear things like "boys will be boys" then there is the problem. There's a reason why the fathers of yesteryear pushed their boys to learn responsibility, take care of themselves, and grow up to be independent. Yes, they pushed boys back then to get married and have kids, but it was still all about being the right definition of a man. Not the misogynistic spread the seed definition, but simply the hardworking responsible independent adult definition.
    If boys are growing up, simply wanting to sit on porn sites, play video games, live in their parents basement, not go to school, not get a job, then you got to put some blame on the parents. Kick them out of the house. Yes, it might destroy their self-esteem, but you have to do something more than just coddling.

  • @MohamedAhmed-ms9eu
    @MohamedAhmed-ms9eu Год назад +3

    They literally changed everything about education system to make it suit girls better and when girls got better grades they hid their hand and just said they were better all along. A study was done in which teachers marked math papers with male and female names - females got higher grades. Teachers now had to remark them without names on the papers - boys got higher grades. When they researched further they found that teachers were giving girls higher grades because of how neat their handwriting was or because they talked less in class.

  • @matthewmagda4971
    @matthewmagda4971 Год назад +3

    1:06 this is just as good on the rewatch. This is evocative of the maxim that evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

  • @Brasilmagic79
    @Brasilmagic79 Год назад +5

    That is exactly my experience. Two successful daughters. Some friends with sons who are either living in the basement or on drugs or don’t want to study or work.

    • @PeopleHealthTru
      @PeopleHealthTru Год назад

      What incentive do young men have when you have te rrorist divorce judges who k idnap children . For profit and then make the fathers slav es to the government and mom while restricting access to their own children. Kids need EqualSharedParentingsite

  • @brother.teresa
    @brother.teresa Год назад +25

    Men struggle because of social media and dating apps. Dating was years so much better before both. You actually met women face to face through people in your social circle

    • @dmr6390
      @dmr6390 Год назад +9

      You can easily still meet women that way. And men who are willing to do that are at a huge advantage bc most guys are scared to

    • @MrLBDude
      @MrLBDude Год назад

      Attractive young women are only interested in competing for about 15% of the men. That leaves 85% of men vulnerable to everything from losing their job to their reputation or freedom if they flirt with a woman face to face. At least with dating apps, women cannot accuse men of harassment simply because they were romantically solicited.

    • @christopherpederson1021
      @christopherpederson1021 Год назад +6

      The problem is in United States the social circles are completely living in a bubble and are so tight knit and closed. Also, you have to drink to be a part of any of these things. Overall, their attitude is so closed minded and narrow they don’t accept any people that are different from their mindsets.

    • @NKA23
      @NKA23 Год назад +6

      @@dmr6390 You gotta ask yourself, why so many younger men are so afraid to meet women face to face, though.

    • @AFuller2020
      @AFuller2020 Год назад +7

      Don't waste your time on western women

  • @soniaalvarado5372
    @soniaalvarado5372 Год назад +4

    Re the comments on the lack of male teachers and the overall classroom experience. My understanding is that in the 1960’s, almost 70 percent of teachers were female and yet male students got educated etc.Kids are influenced by many things but first and foremost is their parents. Our parents are the first teachers in our lives. Our parents are the first and constant faces we see as children. The environment that we grow up with also plays a role in who we become. As always, I think it’s more complicated.

    • @pamelaadl9559
      @pamelaadl9559 Год назад

      I agree! How did female teachers in the classroom suddenly become a problem? When Reeves said that, he lost all legitimacy.

  • @kashesan
    @kashesan Год назад +5

    Maybe there would be more male teachers if all teachers were paid a reasonable salary.

  • @hmbourne
    @hmbourne Год назад +2

    They're also needs to be some kind of study done on the differences between urban and rural priorities. I tend to think that educational priorities in rural schools follow urban priorities.

  • @TheMonolake
    @TheMonolake Год назад

    Right Right Right. ...thanks for this !

  • @aristocraticrebel
    @aristocraticrebel Год назад +3

    It's too late to solve this problem. At this point I would rather watch this misandrist society burn to the ground.

  • @Winterstick549
    @Winterstick549 Год назад +2

    I hate how trades are looked at as a pathway for those of lesser intelligence.
    Machinists, welders and electricians require far more math skills than the majority of university degrees.

  • @Odin31b
    @Odin31b Год назад +5

    03:10 why are they clapping...?

  • @ibnewton8951
    @ibnewton8951 Год назад +12

    The older Bill and I both get, the more I agree with him. Sorry but that’s the way it is.
    I was born in the’50s.

  • @sergeati8225
    @sergeati8225 Год назад +1

    The last minute of this video... :) Bill is just so funny while telling the truth

  • @marrz8244
    @marrz8244 Год назад +3

    Hilarious and educational 👌

  • @bruh_hahaha
    @bruh_hahaha Год назад +2

    True though. 20 years ago schools had more PE, variety sports, and extra curriculars a like woodshop (my high school even had a mechanic shop) that engaged male students. Those things have all been cut from most modern schools.

  • @marilynsmith3522
    @marilynsmith3522 Год назад +3

    Let’s give all students the option to stand instead of always sitting. I was a girl in school and sitting all day was difficult for me as well.

  • @TagSpamCop
    @TagSpamCop Год назад +3

    Consider reading Christina Hoff Sommers' book "The War Against Boys," which precedes this by 20 years but is even more relevant today.

  • @ceofounder
    @ceofounder Год назад +18

    Excellent book!
    Very profound writing!
    Thought provoking!
    Magnificent writer!
    Bill Maher and
    Real Time awesomeness!

    • @xlDysenterylx
      @xlDysenterylx Год назад +2

      Sentence fragments!
      Why are we shouting?!?!

    • @ceofounder
      @ceofounder Год назад +1

      @@xlDysenterylx
      I am proverbially shouting for you to get your one way ticket to
      St. Elsewhere forever!
      Fake wannabe grammar corrector!
      Don't be bitter, be better!
      Good riddance!

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw Год назад

      @@xlDysenterylx I think it is a poem

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 6 месяцев назад

      He attributes boys under performance in school to "girls are just better at school", even though studies show a severe grading bias against boys (ie teachers will grade identical assignments higher if they have female names). What are the odds he never came across that data doing all the research he did for this book?
      Democrats have just switched from hateful misandry to patronizing misandry.

    • @ceofounder
      @ceofounder 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Dennis-nc3vw
      Instead of wasting your invaluable time, typing a RUclips diatribe or essay to me; you should enjoy the Christmas and New Years!

  • @lorettanericcio-bohlman567
    @lorettanericcio-bohlman567 Год назад +1

    Unfortunately you tube cut this short, in the podcast Richard Reeves talks further on educating his 3 sons on how to accept rejection when asking a woman out. Priceless info today

  • @steveconn
    @steveconn Год назад +4

    Just get enough women to sh-t on him for existing while he's doing his best with the hand life's dealt him and men just f-cking give up. Stop making women saints and disenfranchising men.

  • @curiouscat98
    @curiouscat98 Год назад +2

    School system in Canada and the USA is the worst. They should learn from the countries that actually have a good education system.

  • @LudlowLawyer
    @LudlowLawyer Год назад +34

    Maher is never more out of touch and clueless than when he talks about parenting.

    • @lscandrick0531
      @lscandrick0531 Год назад +3

      Remember he is not a parent....so his opinion about children is just that an opinion

    • @MjolnirsPower
      @MjolnirsPower Год назад

      Nonsense. This is always said by parents who want to feel special in what they do, when what you do has been done since humans have been existing. If you are a logical person, and have ever been a child you can understand parenting. Get this through your Skull.
      CHILD BARING DOESN'T MAKE YOU SPECIAL!!!!!!!!! You are NOT more educated. You are NOT more understanding. You do NOT have some magical special insight.
      Get Over Yourself.

    • @ethanz3837
      @ethanz3837 Год назад

      It’s true. His “fuck the kids, they’re rude” is WAYYY off

    • @montychiton
      @montychiton Год назад +1

      I know quite a few parents that are clueless....

    • @LudlowLawyer
      @LudlowLawyer Год назад

      @@MjolnirsPower Nonsense. You are always wrong when you pretend to know about things you have no experience or insight in If you are a logical person -and clearly you are not - you would understand that "once being a child" gives you scant insight into "being a parent". Any parent reading your comment is having a good laugh at your expense. I would ask that you reflect and get a clue, but clearly your arrogance in things you know little to nothing about is down right Trumpian. So instead, I'll just laugh and make fun of any and every time you comment on things you are clueless on. Why don't you explain how to run a restaurant since you've eaten out before. Give me your expert view on the physics of an internal combustion engine since you've driven a car. I know you're not a doctor, but would you look at som X-Rays for me? I heard you had a physical checkup once 🤣

  • @EmpireGuy91
    @EmpireGuy91 Год назад +15

    The sort of crowd who will actively cheer for men to fail or lose. Truly wild.

    • @timmyj2366
      @timmyj2366 Год назад +9

      I thought that was alarming too. And that’s exactly part of the issue at hand. Women have been benefitting from gentler upbringings and constant pats on the back for the past 2-3 decades. Boys have been getting tough love and no encouragement. Women’s success is applauded even when it’s at the expense of boys. This is an uphill battle.

    • @soundandfury6557
      @soundandfury6557 Год назад

      Aww cry me a river for dummy boys

    • @timmyj2366
      @timmyj2366 Год назад +4

      @@soundandfury6557 And they say the sexism is on the political right? Nope, to many of us it’s clear where it is with comments like yours. Keep hiding behind your computer screen👍🏼

    • @aristocraticrebel
      @aristocraticrebel Год назад +1

      Why are men becoming increasingly right-wing? It's such a mystery.

    • @lauren23160
      @lauren23160 Год назад

      @@timmyj2366 😂😂😂😂

  • @dafinaglgrrrr8565
    @dafinaglgrrrr8565 Год назад

    I’ll agree to the point that determines it’s necessary to advance education just as well as everything in life changing and “upgrading “ with the times. Some facets are timeless but not every one.A balanced approach and careful evolution may provide a better result.

  • @joeyjojojuniorshabadoo8549
    @joeyjojojuniorshabadoo8549 Год назад +42

    We've accepted broken families, accepted absent fathers and just assumed boys will adjust. But where do they get their male guidance from? Not in education as most teachers are...female. Strong male role models give boys a sense of masculinity. As hard as women try, they can never model this effectively, even with all the pronouns we have flying around the place.

    • @shortminute
      @shortminute Год назад +11

      Long story short. I’m a teacher of 22 years. We were talking about this when I was a student teacher in the late 90s. Then you had to shut up about it.
      Then I had a son. Knowing what he was about to experience I did the opposite of my progressive instincts and raised him old school. Lots of sports, coaches both male and female, lots of arts music and poetry, hunting, fishing, fires, chopping wood, told him to be strong, helped him over come challenges by making him face fear head on, boxing, jujitsu, play fighting, rough and tumble play, old school movies, cut down the video games, gun safety training. You name it, if it was old school we did it. My friends thought I was red pilled, alt right, and worthy of ridicule.
      Can you guess the out come?

    • @magicmarker7047
      @magicmarker7047 Год назад

      Here we go, males blaming women for their failures. Why don't you go out and fix the core of the problem and that is a lot of men for many decades have been "gone with the wind" and don't give a rat's ass about the children they spawn. Also, if there were more male teachers, by the same standard are you not concerned that girls would become more masculine?

    • @anneb889
      @anneb889 Год назад +14

      I recall many years ago hearing Dr Phil say the most important parent to a child is the same sex parent. If he said that today…..he would probably get canceled. Very sad how we have torn down the family….the children are the ones that suffer.

    • @joeyjojojuniorshabadoo8549
      @joeyjojojuniorshabadoo8549 Год назад

      @@magicmarker7047 a predictably emotive response from someone who hasn't read the comment properly. Go back to the beginning and start again.

    • @magicmarker7047
      @magicmarker7047 Год назад

      @@joeyjojojuniorshabadoo8549 Oh, really! A predictable response from an overly sensitive male.

  • @mydogdeli
    @mydogdeli Год назад +4

    This was excellent, but it’s nothing new. I wrote a graduate level paper on this very topic 20 years ago, that’s almost a generation ago.
    To add to what Reeve said in his interview, increasingly, boys are the ones who need help. Nowadays, boys get disciplined more, fail more, drop out more, Have more learning disabilities, emotional disabilities, and behavioral issues than girls do. As Reeves said, throughout grade school, college, university, and grad school there are more girls and they get significantly better grades than boys and men do. Mentioning this and writing a book on it, should not be controversial and should not lead to suspicion or critiques of the author. None of this should take away from any of the excellent work we have been doing to help and encourage girls in education. Much progress has been made for girls over the past 40 years, and that work should continue. But, as I said in my paper 20 years ago, the next generation of women will not want to be surrounded by men who are under educated, under employed, and lacking in a healthy self image. Doing this work will benefit everyone boys and girls, as well as men and women alike.

  • @mikedrown2721
    @mikedrown2721 Год назад

    👍👏😊❤️🇬🇧 Thanks!

  • @matthewmagda4971
    @matthewmagda4971 Год назад

    More of this

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... Год назад +3

    Spot on.
    I'm a social democrat in Europe and I believe that boys and girls would benefit immensely from having certain school subjects (maths, language, science) completely split by gender until 5th grade.

  • @lauren23160
    @lauren23160 Год назад +1

    Sorry but as an elementary age teacher, girls are out of their seat just as often as boys, girls are just better at adapting to the situation.

  • @creativereality4212
    @creativereality4212 Год назад +1

    From my perspective, going through school, there are more outlets to burn off the energy so that I could focus.
    My elementary school routine went like this:
    Every day, we have a few classes, go to gym class. Have another class, then lunch with a built-in recess. Then we would have another class or two, followed by a recess followed by a final class and then go home. With that kind of outlet to burn off the energy, I wasn’t sitting in a classroom any more than two hours.
    Today, my son has PE once a week for 45 minutes as opposed to every day.
    I think part of this is we’ve gotten so test focused that we’ve taken away these outlets.
    And frankly, this focus on testing is misplaced. The problems with our test scores compared to other countries wasn’t a problem in fairly affluent middle-class school systems. It’s the poor school systems that drag everybody else down. It’s not a testing problem, it’s an education problem, and how certain school systems have less resources than others.

  • @blantonric41
    @blantonric41 Год назад +7

    Most important thing he said was that education in America needs to focus more on technical skills and the trades which would greatly benefit young males in getting jobs and being successful.

    • @TagSpamCop
      @TagSpamCop Год назад +2

      And feminists will complain.

  • @thedahkterizzin8831
    @thedahkterizzin8831 Год назад +16

    This guy falls in line with the late great Ken Robinson, amazing educator and reformer. Kudos! Why is sitting still such a great life skill?

    • @GreenMorningDragonProductions
      @GreenMorningDragonProductions Год назад

      Ken Robinson. Didn't know he'd died (RIP) but he did come across as a refreshing yet pragmatic voice in his field. No wonder most people haven't heard of him :(

    • @r8chlletters
      @r8chlletters Год назад +2

      When you are corralling 35+ kids at a time it’s the only thing you can “teach”…be quiet, sit still, et al.

    • @ameliaalastairmoon4145
      @ameliaalastairmoon4145 Год назад

      It's more the ability to focus on a task and be organised and disciplined when approaching learning in and after class. Girls seem to have a general advantage over boys in school, but as a girl I never found it easy nor pleasant to be forced through long, boring classes. We all need to be challenged and inspired, to perform well.

  • @nHautamaki
    @nHautamaki Год назад +12

    To the point of why schools favor girls over boys, I taught in China for 12 years, and yeah, more often than not the most disruptive, least self-controlled student in a given class would be a boy, but on average the boys did just as well. Usually the most brilliant, hardest working student would also be a boy. Girls were just more likely to be average, for better or worse.
    Why do Chinese (and other Asian countries are the same) boys do better than North American boys? It's not just strictness and toughness from the teachers, it's competitiveness. The reason boys don't give a fuck about school in North America is not because the teachers are too nice and afraid to discipline them. It's because treating academic success as a competitive endeavor with winners and losers and real consequences is utterly anathema to our cultural understanding of what education should be. And that's why boys are so much more into sports than girls, on average, or, if they aren't too good at sports, get addicted to video games. It's because those are the two arenas where boys can exercise their urge to be competitive. You bring competition back into classrooms, you tell boys that they have to win at school by studying harder and getting the best scores, and lots of them will. You tell boys to just 'do your best, there are no winners and losers, it doesn't matter who got the high score and we'll never tell anyone who that is anyway' and they will struggle mightily to give a fuck and put all their passion and energy into something where they can try to win and it matters.
    And yeah, there will be losers, and it sucks to be the loser. But there are losers now; and it's a rather worrying large percentage of the boys. We just don't tell them that until it's way too late and they're already getting rejected from decent colleges/university or they're failing it or they never cared to apply in the first place. Boys wake up in their mid twenties having never won at anything that actually matters, because they weren't really made aware that life is indeed a competition, and all they're good at is the one thing where they were allowed to compete, either some sport that doesn't matter after high school unless you're one of the 0.0000001% who gets to go pro at it, or more likely some video game that isn't even popular anymore. And so most of the boys are actually losers. Because they were protected from competition by their well meaning education system, and now they're grown up, having been protected their whole lives, and girls won't look at them twice, employers don't want to hire them, and society at large considers them toxic if they ever dare to outwardly express any anger or frustration at this system.

    • @DuderMcDudenstein
      @DuderMcDudenstein Год назад +1

      spot fucking on

    • @r8chlletters
      @r8chlletters Год назад

      This is a glaring advertisement for why girls and boys should be educated separately. Girls don’t function in a winner/loser paradigm. Cooperation is how they thrive. Boys eat up what little energy teachers have while acting out in a mixed class. 51% of the room is paying attention and deserves an education. I say give boys what they need and give girls what they need. Tailored and separate education. Worked great for me!

    • @nHautamaki
      @nHautamaki Год назад +3

      @@r8chlletters meh girls do great in Asian style classrooms too. It's not like there's this slider where more competition helps boys but hurts girls. More competition seems to have less positive benefits for girls compared to boys, but it doesn't have any net negative effects either. What hurt girls in the past was misogyny, not competition. Take away the misogyny but keep the competition and you get the best of both worlds for boys and girls.

  • @TheApeVine
    @TheApeVine Год назад +1

    I hear you Bill, in Grade 3 I fell in Love with My Female teacher ... and I very quickly became teachers Pet!

  • @ethanz3837
    @ethanz3837 Год назад +1

    “Sitting is the new smoking.” …Says the NYTimes.
    But kids should wake up at 7am to do it for 6 hours for 12 years of their life.

  • @collectivesartori
    @collectivesartori Год назад

    “Thank you” 😂

  • @eigeneagle9163
    @eigeneagle9163 Год назад +9

    Can't hope to deal with this issue until we deal with the fact you can't talk about it without being accused of being a sexist MRA bigot who hates women.

    • @FarhanAmin1994
      @FarhanAmin1994 Год назад +2

      Thanks partly/ largely to the homogenizing influence of such unintellectual forums as Twitstagram(?)

    • @magicmarker7047
      @magicmarker7047 Год назад +1

      Which most of you are. Truth hurts so deal with it.

    • @screamintotheabyssrepliest7029
      @screamintotheabyssrepliest7029 Год назад

      Because you are! LMAO

    • @eigeneagle9163
      @eigeneagle9163 Год назад +1

      @@magicmarker7047 Okay well Magic Marker has spoken. I guess it's settled then.

    • @magicmarker7047
      @magicmarker7047 Год назад

      @@eigeneagle9163 Okay well Eigen Eagle the all-knowing little man has spoken. Case closed.

  • @mikhanch1228
    @mikhanch1228 Год назад +8

    Nard dog started to cry when he said Cornell was terrible

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад

      it is a hard school with the highest suicide rate - the Gorge there is infamous for that

  • @r8chlletters
    @r8chlletters Год назад +34

    I went to a girls school and found it ideal. Separating children by gender, especially during teen years, has advantages academically.

    • @joshuabarrick5468
      @joshuabarrick5468 Год назад +5

      Single sex schools certainly helps girls academically, but it definitely doesn’t help boys, and there are further social issues caused by separating teens.

    • @svscared
      @svscared Год назад +4

      Whatever advantages it may have academically are totally cancelled out by the disadvantages it causes socially. Also there are such things as boys who are into boys and girls who are into girls.

    • @r8chlletters
      @r8chlletters Год назад +4

      @@joshuabarrick5468 not in my experience. Educational and behavioral approaches matter. If done in a comprehensive way giving boys and girls a break from one another during crucial teen years can benefit them both significantly.

    • @joshuabarrick5468
      @joshuabarrick5468 Год назад +1

      @@r8chlletters In my experience (having gone to an all-boys school), it fosters an incredibly toxic environment. The only thing it benefits is single sex girls’ academic scores, but there’s a lot more to education than that.

    • @r8chlletters
      @r8chlletters Год назад +7

      @@joshuabarrick5468 sounds like you attended a disappointing institution. I was lucky to have a great one. Girls and boys grow increasingly different as they reach adulthood and navigating those years between is a huge challenge. Being in a tailored environment is ideal. Let girls and boys play to their strengths without being held back by one another and allow teachers to do their best by both. It’s simple and effective if done well.

  • @trusarmor4957
    @trusarmor4957 Год назад +3

    3:11 People Applauding are the People not getting the point.

  • @killcat1971
    @killcat1971 Год назад +31

    I disagree, the issue isn't that it's a "level playing field" and girls play better, the system has been deliberately re-tuned to FAVOR girls, and any calls for actual leveling are ignored.

    • @svscared
      @svscared Год назад +2

      Care to elaborate how the system has been favored towards women?

    • @LudlowLawyer
      @LudlowLawyer Год назад +3

      This is true. You won’t find many required books without a female protagonist.
      My well behaved middle school boy (he was just born that way) gets lumped in by teachers with the naturally restless boys in class. The teachers treat the boys with a level of contempt.

    • @soundandfury6557
      @soundandfury6557 Год назад

      Girls are smarter than your dummy boys. Gtfoh

    • @killcat1971
      @killcat1971 Год назад +5

      @@svscared Not he US but here they moved away from exams to internal assessment and long term projects, boys do better in exams, they went to "group learning" and collaborative projects , girls do better in those. Almost all teachers are women, and ALL teachers come up through a system that's is heavily progressive feminist. There is a pro-girl bias in marking etc

    • @stephenryder1995
      @stephenryder1995 Год назад +1

      @@svscared If you need to ask the question, the answer cannot help you

  • @juliesipes8007
    @juliesipes8007 Год назад +7

    It is a complex issue, but one factor I think is an overemphasis of sports. My husband and I observed that with our nephews. They both thought they could be football players, put so much time and attention on that over their academics. Of course, they didn’t make it to the NFL. I mean, how many do?

  • @Omni0404
    @Omni0404 Год назад +14

    Bill Maher with his hot take of "just try harder."

    • @UToobin75
      @UToobin75 Год назад +6

      Maher's constant criticism of younger generations is not only wildly off base, it's intellectually LAZY.

    • @84paratize
      @84paratize Год назад +1

      Then it turned into "just get harder" at the end lol

    • @Omni0404
      @Omni0404 Год назад +1

      @@UToobin75 He picks strange battles. He hates muslims, trans people, and anybody with a BMI above 25

  • @blindfaith8777
    @blindfaith8777 Год назад +3

    Men thrive on competition. One thing that seems to missing from these conversations is how competition is often seen as toxic these days as it creates losers. If competitive elements, such as posting test scores on the wall, have been removed from schools, that may be a major reason as to why men are falling behind.

  • @luiscruz7343
    @luiscruz7343 Год назад

    I think it may have a lot to do about upbringing. I grew up in a big city. So office jobs are not something I love but since I grew up around it, it's not intimidating to me because I've worked them since a young age. Someone growing up in a rural place where people work with their hands everyday may have a different viewpoint of going to school and then to an office which is what we're programmed to do since childhood.

  • @Khallnayakkk
    @Khallnayakkk Год назад

    Mark Gagnon has done a 2 hour long podcast with this dude. It's amazing. Do watch it.

  • @LulaLeeful
    @LulaLeeful Год назад +2

    Haven't read the book, does it address the different ways girls and boys are taught to behave before they are old enough to be in school?

    • @shwnshts9469
      @shwnshts9469 Год назад +1

      go on...how are they taught to behave? are you talking about adults projecting gender roles and bias or a cultural shift in what counts as manners? or another thought entirely?

    • @r8chlletters
      @r8chlletters Год назад +1

      The older I get the more I realize how innately different males and females are however point taken and yes in the nature/nurture schema parents can help children learn a host of skills that help them flourish in a structured school environment. This assumes the parents are aware and mindful individuals which they may not be. Preschool also helps.

  • @llamalinguist3250
    @llamalinguist3250 Месяц назад

    Amen to more recess!
    I've worked in school systems where all grades of elementary school were given 30 min/day of recess for lunch AND play and they only had PE once or twice a week! And then they wondered why the boys were acting up. 🤦‍♀️

  • @mbern4530
    @mbern4530 Год назад +2

    It has already been proven that men and women learn differently. The reason there were more men in post secondary education in the past is that the educational system was catered to them and many girls were dropping out. Due to this the system was changed and it worked to help the girls, but now we are seeing the same situation with the boys dropping out.
    You'll never have true educational equality for this reason, but we went from one extreme to another.

    • @webx135
      @webx135 Год назад

      Yes. But also, a well-designed system of progress would help all parties. So for instance, if girls are struggling on tests compared to boys, they can either make an ill-designed system which makes the tests more suited to girls at the EXPENSE of boys, or what they did by varying the question types, where it improved scores for both girls AND boys, just that girls saw more relative improvement because they were behind.
      Basically, we need to focus on policies like the latter rather than the former. So in the case of more hands-on learning and more self-directed learning, both girls and boys would benefit. We should just see more relative improvement in boys as things go more towards parity.
      I think about policies like "man taxes" or "switching to a female focus" or other zero-sum methods and it just makes me cringe. You don't stop a pendulum by pulling it the other way. That speeds up the pendulum. You stop a pendulum by pulling it straight down to the middle.

    • @mbern4530
      @mbern4530 Год назад

      @@webx135 I agree completely, but as usual the government took the easy way out so they had something to show for it quickly. Making an educational system for boys and girls would have required actual thinking and planning from government.

  • @criticaltheories5222
    @criticaltheories5222 Год назад +22

    I was constantly beaten at home for my problems in school. Fidgeting, talking pranks, etc.....all the while getting straight A's.

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Год назад +2

      Same. Rough housing was considered "fighting" and thus "bad". It got me suspended and expelled at 8th grade and suspended and nearly expelled at 11th grade. All while I was the top grade student in my class for multiple years straight.

    • @GreenMorningDragonProductions
      @GreenMorningDragonProductions Год назад +4

      @@civilengineer3349 Can you flesh out what you just outlined though, and reassure us that you weren't actually just the class bully, who got all the nerds to do his homework for him, or else?

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Год назад

      @@GreenMorningDragonProductions I wasn't a bully. The fact that you feminists can't distinguish between rough housing and bullying is the problem

    • @RoofStud
      @RoofStud Год назад +2

      I was the class clown. Got in trouble a few times, but it's because the curriculum was not challenging at all. I got straight A's and went to college completely unprepared for an actual challenge, and got put on academic suspension a couple of years in. Got my act together and graduated, then went on to be relatively successful in the workforce.
      I watched the full segment (this particular video was cut short), and while I agree that the educational system needs some work, I think the bigger problem with many men nowadays is that thru social engineering, "being a man" is slowly but surely being removed from what the current narrative is accepting. You can call whatever you want, and I'm not getting political about it, but there aren't many "men" who can be a man, but still be a gentleman and a respectable adult. It's either the quintessential alpha male who looks down on women and treats others with less money, credentials, etc like complete shit (narcissism falls into this category), or the incel gamer who refuses to take any responsibility for anything, lives with his parents, won't work a job, and manipulates his parents them to accept that behavior as normal. So basically you have narcissistic assholes who think they're the best thing since sliced bread, or freeloaders who think they're incredibly intelligent and sophisticated because they're good at video games and trolling ppl on Reddit, thus making them the best thing since sliced bread. The middle ground is vanishing, and it's pathetic. It's no wonder women are so frustrated with the current landscape of dating and relationships. Men are as well, but most of them are completely clueless on how to be a man without being a dick, and when you have the two genders that want each other but can't relate or connect, you get a lot of resentment on both sides.
      I don't know what the solution is. I don't even know where we can start. I certainly think social engineering needs to be modified in a way that promotes a healthy society for everyone, but that's not what benefits the corporate and political agendas, so that may be a pipe dream.

    • @lscandrick0531
      @lscandrick0531 Год назад

      sorry

  • @TesserId
    @TesserId Год назад +1

    1:06 "...if responsible people don't address real problems in a straight forward way, irresponsible people are going to exploit them."

  • @mattfoltz7752
    @mattfoltz7752 Год назад +1

    I was told I wouldn't have a calculator everywhere I go and that no one is going to pay me to stare out a window all day...They were wrong. I have a smart phone and have been driving a truck for a living for the past 20 yrs. Can't bitch at $80K/yr.

  • @BoydSmash
    @BoydSmash Год назад +9

    Really glad this is hitting a program like this. I retired from the workforce at 39, for multiple reasons, but also partly because I was in an industry that didn’t seem to value critical thinking and problem solving. My intention was to help people directly instead of staying with engineering, which was a huge mistake. I suspect you’ll see more guys bailing out early. Is it an actual problem though? Time will tell…

  • @thegodfatherofthesec1748
    @thegodfatherofthesec1748 Год назад +7

    Applause 👏

  • @davidjackson3592
    @davidjackson3592 Год назад +1

    Boys/men tend to learn differently than women and our educational system doesn't cater to the trades anymore in the United States.

  • @pisces031372aj
    @pisces031372aj Год назад +2

    All these things are true but let's not forget that children need discipline. And we don't do that nearly enough anymore. Parents are negotiating with or rewarding little kids to get them to do what no mother got done with just a look at us.

  • @tlee4218
    @tlee4218 Год назад +2

    In 1977 my son started public school. What a shit show. Most the boys where on Ritalin or some calm them down drug, out of 28 kids..too many..As a psychology student I wondered why my son was calm and able to sit and listen which I found to be bad way to run a kids classroom. I went to a grade school estate;oshed by Kennedy Shriver family. We went outside in the cold and warmth and discovered things. we were not ordered to sit all day. Plus we never drank colas or ate sweets. Those were holiday things. Home baked cookies yes but we had home made food also.
    I found that to be a huge tell in which boy was antsier and those who watched tv often. I had no tv, we read books. So upbringing is also part of the antsy part b ut sitting all day bored my son so bad he climbed out the window and walked home..no one there..and the teacher did not even notice until one of the kids told her later. Sit listen is not good for girls either, they just have less antsy genes. School sucks. change it, Make it interactive. we always learn when we do better then when we just read about it or hear someone tell us about it. In my grade school we played out series as we read them., be active, kids are interested more.

  • @markushuguenin3500
    @markushuguenin3500 Год назад +2

    Lmao: guest comes on explaining an issue with concrete ideas on how to fix things and Maher goes straight to sexism, and the crowd busts out laughing, lol. I don't really care... I just love a good dose of hypocrisy.

  • @elitechief01
    @elitechief01 Год назад +6

    Hilarious! Ms. Hill sounds like a babe!

  • @marthaworc7873
    @marthaworc7873 Год назад +2

    Thanks for having Richard Reeves on your show to talk about the problems with young men. Thanks for not having Jordan Peterson on instead. Jordan had been losing his mind of late. I have respect for Richard Reeves, I have lost all respect for Jordan Peterson.

  • @stephaniethomas2223
    @stephaniethomas2223 Год назад +3

    RIGHT THE SYSTEM DOES NEED REFORMED AND DIAGNOSE BETTER!!!!

  • @gerdhansma4184
    @gerdhansma4184 Год назад

    I believe the answer IS more physical activity intermingled with learning. This is something easier to facilitate in college...maybe gyms with bikes with book racks on them?

  • @paulppchristman5827
    @paulppchristman5827 Год назад +5

    Another thing that has hindered boys' academic success in America for many generations is that boys are primarily expected to excel at sports and athletics , and not nearly as much pressure is put on boys to get good grades. Time and time again, the question a boy will be asked by, for instance, a colleague of either of his parents upon being introduced to them will be 'What sports team(s) are you on at school ?", not "What's your favorite subject ?"

    • @the_village_elder
      @the_village_elder Год назад

      I used to get asked “how many girlfriends do you have” lol

    • @publius9350
      @publius9350 Год назад

      Grades are bullshit. Why are you expecting boys to be good in either of these? Ask boys about the things they did outside of school. Or just generally, encourage them not to do either of these sad monkey dances.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw Год назад

      I definitely agree with this, I think we should push boys to be intellectuals or at least resourceful thinkers, make them actually think that thinking is a cool thing, explain to them when they get into all the cool stuff(you know the fighting shite) that playing it smart works too and combining it with mechanical skill is just as important, make them well resourceful. If any of you indeed struggle to see how resourcefulness can be used in school, think again, I got through the first parts of physics through realising I could just "cheat" using the units which literally told me what to do, for chemistry I literally simplified it to "outside everyone wants 8 shells or zero shells except for hydrogen" and everything sort of came together and the rules just got into my head slowly. And the best part was maths when I realised what the equal sign meant and that was a fucking miracle as it removed all need for memorisation, instead putting me to think about the logic on the spot, I also eventually understood my quadratic equations, (can't do completing the square mind you) but the graphs makes sense, and the logic of factorising made sense too(though that wasn't so much resourcefulness as finding a eureka with the logic, you just have to procrastinate til you connect the dots), the graphs in particular was very fun logic, as I managed to connect a few dots with the graphs and the factorising method by associating points where y=0 to the values of x in factorising, that on the spot logic saved my maths tests.

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw 6 месяцев назад

      What hinders boys academic success is simple grading bias. Studies show teachers have a grading bias against boys, and will grade an identical assignment 3 points lower if it has a male name than a female name. That's the difference between a B and a B+. And I'm supposed to believe that with all the research Richard Reeves put into this book, he never came across these studies?
      As Malcolm X said "The Democrats are playing you for chumps." They just switched from hateful misandry to condescending misandry. It makes me sick to see people gobbling this excrement up.

  • @scottipippen6554
    @scottipippen6554 Год назад

    "Thank you.."lmao.

  • @DadBodsAreForQuitters
    @DadBodsAreForQuitters 5 месяцев назад

    Scott Galloway spoke of a 1 year later start for boys. And I think changing schools to suit boys a bit better would help.

  • @poppyorangeflower
    @poppyorangeflower Год назад

    The boys at my (middle, high) school hated phys-ed. Lol.

  • @whafrog
    @whafrog Год назад

    Can't agree more with this guy, more phys-ed is essential, as is restructuring the curriculum to be more inclusive

  • @TomSuntotheMax
    @TomSuntotheMax Год назад +2

    It's the freaking phones. I understand you want your kid to phone you during a school shooting, but is that worth them skipping childhood innocence completely and delving in the adult world as soon as they get the phone - which of course they do? I think it is really sad. And the future will suffer for the imaginations that have never developed. We are already seeing that. Blame is not a great thing to do to parents or kids. I think parents are ignorant and frightened and so over protective which doesn't do the parent or the kid any good at all. Mr. Reeves has wonderful ideas, but as long as your boy is looking at his phone and half listening to anything at all around him, he is going to be in trouble.

  • @jamescottone9882
    @jamescottone9882 Год назад

    Yet again, Bill is right.

  • @chillones9574
    @chillones9574 Год назад

    Just had parent teacher conferences for my twin boys. 4th grade. Teachers say they academically smart but can't sit still. The older sister a 4.0 college 3yr grad,now medical school. I tell the teachers to yell at them to sit still, tough love. make them run laps my sons not future teachers,journalist so instead of working on weakness lets work on the strengths. because
    FOR 4 years they were force ADHD pills by school and a new doctor my ex used,but finally a new counselor at school this year said to their mom lets try 4th grade no medication, FINALLY someone listening that my 9 year old boys just active like me.

  • @strumdynasty3050
    @strumdynasty3050 Год назад +2

    Ah, this is one of those videos where his guest is challenging him with well-reasoned arguments that can't fit on the back of a bumper sticker, and you can see Bill start to realize his normal schtick won't work here.