I currently ride a 1995 BMW F650 here in NZ. Powered by an indestructible Rotax 650 single with suspiciously similar specs to this one. Very punchy and fun. Not as charming as this but probably more comfortable. Great engine. Fantastic reliability record. I would have this bike in a heartbeat if it gets here. Perfect for NZ backroad riding. Great vid, Dave
Both bikes have their pluses and minuses. Both are Indian manufactured and build quality is similar IMO. Performance is different but not in any major way. I love singles and also twins, I recently purchased a new RE Interceptor (my second) I nearly went for the BSA but preferred the look of the interceptor. I may try a BSA next time but at 76 this year I might not be riding for much longer. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I like a bike review to contain some idea of servicing intervals and cost, spares and accessories availability and some of the real basics - how easy is it to put on a centre stand if fitted, is the usb port accessible, how awkward is the fuel tank lock etc. Yes, lots of basics to choose from!
The service intervals on the Interceptor and the BSA are completely different. The first is 300 for the RE and 500 for the BSA. The RE literally needs the valves checked every year whereas the BSA is 20000 miles.
Last year I decided to change my 2009 Bonnerville for another modern classic. I firstly tried the Interceptor and loved it and then i took the BSA out and fell in love with its big thumper character, so i bought one in black/chrome. Personally i couldn't give a monkeys cuss what anybody else thinks of my choice, i love it. I've had it for one year with virtually no problems whatsoever its had its first service, started to loosen up and as for the radiator i don't even notice it at all. Coupled with everything else the BSA dealer here in Lancashire is top draw and always helpful.
Yes your right it seems Matt stopped selling new BSA bike's on Jan 1st. He still is an authorised service provider but following problems with BSA he won't be selling any new bike's.
I would buy one in a minute for that big single. Something still bothers me though as far as dealer availability and service after the sale. Here in the US dealers are as rare as hen's teeth. I can't find one in a reasonable distance. This brings up the question of warranty service, and long term ownership. It always seemed to me that BSA was always an afterthought to Mahindra. If or when RE reissued a big single, I'd buy one tomorrow.
I have owned and flown Rotax powered aircraft for over twenty years with hundreds of hours without any problems, it has to be the most popular light aircraft engine of recent years.
@@thebingleywheeler Rotax 80/100 and up to 150 hp are very popular in light sports aircraft and microlights, Lycoming offer greater power output and popular in larger and heavier tourers and competition aircraft.
Good points made, I test rode the BSA late last year and really enjoyed the bike and would have been interested in purchasing it if I had room and hadn't just purchased another bike! I found the BSA to be more comfortable than the Interceptor straight out of the crate. I don't find the radiator distracting but felt little things let the appearance down like the engine finish, stickers on the engine, and the huge USB port on the handlebars. At the time of my test ride the BSA was £7200 but Moto Guzzi were offering the V7 stone for £7500, a far more authentic machine than either the BSA, RE or even Triumph! By the way, Rotax made the 650cc single that was used in the BMW F650 and the Aprilia back in the mid 1990s. I had an F650 then, and it was a great bike.
Another entertaining video 👍 Maybe in your next review of the gold star you could address the availability of spare parts ? This is something I’ve often wondered about. Keep up the good work 👍
I’ve only owned mine for just under a month and already feels like an old friend .it brings a smile to my face’ and others whenever we pop out for a ride . My favourite story’s from my grandad always involved his BSA gold star . And I feel proper lucky that in 2024 I can have a BSA Goldstar as well. regardless of what brand of steed tickles your pickle we are all just out for a ride and in my humble opinion , man that’s just pretty dam cool .
3 of my pals have bought them they all praise them i think they look good value and rotax are a great engine but its only a BSA in name i don't suppose it matters if your out enjoying riding it thats what its about
The only prejudice is badge snobbery. It's actually a Jawa but no one in Britain would have bought it. Knowing this, Mahindra bought the BSA name. It's very similar to bikes Jawa have made in the past (Rotax 500 and especially the vintage 660) and indeed many of the components are from the Jawa 350 ohc's left overs, hence the comments by a few owners that some of them are inadequate, I'm sure they'll iron out the creases though, they're a good bike. Mahindra bought all manufacturing rights to Jawa years ago, as well as peugeot scooters etc.
Nice video Dave. It's a machine that has always divided opinion and had an uphill battle on its hands. A member on the Facebook group pointed out there is a trio of ex owners who had problems with the bikes now on a crusade to bring the model into disrepute. I'm on 800 miles now on mine so let's see how it goes for me. If there are problems I'll post about them but so far all the issues were my own fault 😂😂😂. Thanks for doing the video!
I had an Interceptor for three years, I enjoyed it but never really liked the riding position and the footrest positioning, so traded it in for a Classic 350 which I find far more comfortable and more planted on the road . I've not had a go on the BSA but sat on one and felt it was instantly a better riding position than the Interceptor, but I think it's a good looking bike, but neither of them are as good looking as my Gunmetal grey Classic! 😉 cheers Dave, looking forward to the next reviews 👍
I'm a bit on the fence, but I can't help asking , how many folk would have bought it, if it was called Mahindra 650..without any reference to the goldstar.
Interesting Dave, another "Badge Engineered" bike just like Triumph. Whatever the pros and cons of this type of manufacture and marketing, does it really matter, We the motorcycling community now have the choice of fabulous "retro" bikes like the Bonneville and now the Gold Star as well as the genuine article (Royal Enfield ) haha!
🙌enjoyed that Dave and obviously I have one and agree with all your comments of course and I don’t let the negativity bother me😊😊 It’s a great looking bike and what’s not to like 😊it’s a modern interpretation of a BSA Gold Star that’s all and what s great job they’ve done too 😊😊 The interceptor I love that bike and you know, it’s a twin and a totally different look to the BSA,people just don’t get it? It’s apples 🍏 and oranges 🍊 we all like what we like! 🙌🙌 Great to see you riding the Legacy like mine il get the a coffee for that All the best phil green Il probably catch you down at Eddys sometime 😊😊
We all know it's a Mahindra with a big radiator etc. To me the more manufacturers in the showrooms the better. It will keep prices in competition rather than just the big 4 with Royal Enfield and Triumph coming in with token offerings.
Good Morning Dave , Yet again another very enjoyable video , i have to say it is a very nice bike plus i would have one tbf , so as always ride safe mate
Like the look of the bsa , i know its got to have a radiator but the filler reminds me of lifting the bonnet of a cortina could have been hidden better , looks like a after thought
The BSA is what it is - a handsome motorcycle engineered and styled to replicate the original 50’s/60’s machines of the same name. As that it stands up well and is no doubt a joy to own and ride. I just wish however that owners and reviewers would stop banging on about its heritage and historical context. It has no heritage, it is a completely new bike from a different company. I think this is what annoys people, this attempt to convince everyone that this bike is somehow a direct like back to British built bikes from 60 years ago. It’s a great looking, great riding modern bike styled to look like an old BSA - be happy with that, because that’s what it is.
Good morning Dave. I briefly joined the "Just British Motorcycles" FB group. I thought, why not as I'd recently purchased a 2021 T100. I was a bit surprised to be allowed but obviously the admins thought it reasonable. I wasn't surprised by the instant and vitriolic backlash though. Life's too short to try and stay where you're not wanted so I didn't stick around. But not before I'd posted a pic of my Thai-built steed outside the Triumph factory at Hinckley with the title, "Pilgrimage to it's birthplace". Hopefully, this ruffled a few of the purists feathers too - it not being Meridan and all that 😂
Obviously it’s looks are subjective. I prefer the look of my Interceptor. Don’t dislike the BSA though. In my opinion the choice of the Goldstar moniker on this model was a mistake. It should have been reserved for a high performance version. The comments made regarding it just being a BSA in name only, can’t argue, but so are the Hinckley based Triumphs, using the same logic. Water cooled engines, sadly are where performance & emissions requirements are at these days, with a few exceptions. The production model BSA, looks much better than the pre- production one did.
G'day Dave, to give historical context to BSA, they were actually established in 1861 by fourteen local gunsmiths who came together as a firearms manufacturer, based in the Gun Quarter, Birmingham. The first recorded gun maker in Birmingham was in 1630 and since that date firearms have continued to be manufactured there. Indeed, The Birmingham Gun Barrel Proof House was built in 1813 to test (give Proof) each weapon so as to ensure its safety, as laid down in the Gun Barrel Proof Act. There have been various Amendments to the Act (eg 1855, 1868, 1950, 1987 and the current 2006) which ensure that all small arms, new or used, that are sold in the UK must be fully proven and so marked with the authorised stamp of the Proof House. The building itself is quite Dickensian inside and that impression is enhanced by the passage of trains at rooftop height immediately in front of the building and the canal at the back. I personally like the look of the Goldstar 650 and would like a test ride if/when they ever arrive here in Oz, though I doubt that it would replace my Guzzi Breva 750.
Cheers Chris that’s very interesting history pal…..the term proofing lives on today as firearms police officers here are often called out to proof suspect weapons
@@thebingleywheeler You're welcome Dave; my late father-in-law was a Birmingham gun maker, though he died back in 1966. My first job after the military was as a weapons inspector, at the Proof House.
The choice of motorcycle purchase is extremely subjective. Like you I have bought a BSA which I think looks great and different from the mainstream. I also own a Royal Enfield Meteor which is a great bike. At the end of the day you buy what you like.
I think the availability of parts and dealers will let these bikes down. I can't find any dealers in Wales, nearest one is 200 miles away. They are a good looking bike and as a RE Super Meteor owner I would consider one as a second bike but i'm edging towards the RE Classic 350 or Interceptor. There are mixed reviews on the bikes performance, be good if you can put this to rest as I have seen various reviews stating its under powered and also look into the parts situation Great content as usual👍
I can't believe people would question the appearance of a radiator! Least of all one so well blended into the design. I have a Thunderbird 900 triple and it's radiator sticks out like the proverbial and most people don't comment on that, they just say it looks just like their old Bonnie from the '60s! I am absolutely certain that if BSA had miraculously survived intact to this day that they would have embraced any technologies at they deemed necessary/appropriate, and liquid cooling is a no brainer. I so wish my T'bird had EFI.
I like most of the RE range. And most road bikes.. Currently i ride the RE scram 411 .. id love to give the BSA a go... but not yet available in Australia to my knowledge..
BSA not down under in NZ 🇳🇿 or Ausie yet & don't think 🤔 it's coming which is a shame. Is it a UK & India only bike? The 650 Rotax engine is a tried & tested motor.I reckon you could put a aftermarket high flow Radiator which is slimmer profile so it's similar to a Triumph style radiator if you wanted too.There will always be haters but as long as you like it is all that matters. BMW used the Rotax 650 engine in the Funduro & there are many still going a testament to reliablility.
Heyup Dave , Rotax also built the v60 twins for the early aprilias , mille, tuono . Perhaps for the purists we could start a business converting their bikes to points ,condensors etc ,and give them a free container for under the sump .Tommy Tickle
I agree on the GoldStar.. although I really wish they hadn’t put that stripe on the tank and mudguards.. the Highland green and legacy edition bikes don’t have it and look much better IMHO.. I also can’t be the only one who has wondered what a Goldstar with an interceptor engine would be like?? 🤔 Thanks Dave another lovely ride through the dales.. I never tire of watching that.. hopefully will get up your way this spring/summer 👍🏻
Well I possibly represent the demographic who will actually purchase one of these bikes. I’m in my early sixties have ridden since I was a teen and already own a “main” bike and am looking for something a bit different to ride around the countryside on. I am actively looking to buy now, so why haven’t I bought a Gold Star yet. My list of reasons are dealer location (my nearest is Eddy’s in Tadcaster which is 100 miles away). Knowledge of the brand as in what are spares like to get hold of and how do they hold up for warranty claims etc. So for me it’s watch this space, will I or won’t I? I would love to know from people who actually own one what they think.
i like this bike, the finish is great, but GT motorcycles Plymouth has a row of six in different colours all discounted to £6000 (£6800 retail) and none have sold???
Once again, reasoned and unbiased commentary, Dave. You've made good points. If this bike and others of it's ilk, provide pleasure and pride through ownership, then fair play to them. What grates me is all the flag waving that comes from certain advocates of such machines. No amount of brandishing the Union Jack can conceal the fact that this bike, is 'Made in India', with a power plant that's, 'Made in Austria'.🤦♂️ Yes, it's designed in Britain, but not, 'Made in Britain'. Big difference. Ride safe pal.👍
Uk has to accept its failure, imported food and energy, foreign owned industry, We are not on the world stage anymore, good on the Indian company for making this happen, left to the Uk it would have been a non event.
@@aceofspades5786 Agreed. However, that was not my point. My issue is the rose tinted spectacle wearing, flag waving brigade naively believing they're somehow being patriotic by riding such machines. Umm....they're not.🤭
TBW, the BSA is a nice looking motorcycle, no doubt about that. What I originally mentioned in your first review was the definitive aspect of the radiator with a finned looking engine. The other issue in my book is that ghastly looking USB port just sitting on the handlebar looking like an afterthought, an attachment, a hanger-on, an appendage… a debacle. The small arms decal on the FI pod looks great though!
Another enjoyable vid. 👍 I'm not alone in this view, it's not a BSA let alone a "Goldie", it's a pastiche, a homage, a fake? For some that ticks their box for those like me it's an utter turn off even though l've nothing against the bike itself. You can get a Rolex GMT for £120, but it says "Pagani Design" on the dial, at least there's a bit (just) of honesty there.
The new BSA’s styling looks contrived to me and knowing that the original was a true high performance machine, not true to its legacy. The Royal Enfields to my eyes are far more appealing and their lineage is undeniable.
The radiator IMO was poorly integrated into the design. If you wanted L/C, why not contour the physical size and attachments to smoothly work with the surrounding mechanical bits? That said, this engine is not a highly stressed unit and IMO could have been oil cooled with advantages, too many to ignore. The bike could have been kept much lighter, something which would have allowed the overall design to fit into the original flavor of the Gold Star. As it stands, it looks too heavy and is, something the original was not. Handling would have benefited as would acceleration and maintenance would be much less overall. A Suzuki DR650 single has a oil cooler, has been around for decades and is very light for it's size at 366 lbs wet and has a reputation for stacking up the miles with minimal maintenance. The pressed seam on the new Gold Star's tank can be eliminated, resulting in a lighter, much better appearance. Reducing the overall weight of the bike would allow you to pare back the pieces resulting in something which resembles the original in a accurate fashion. It has the letters BSA on the tank although, that's just a name someone purchased when purchasing the rights. The last true BSA was built in the 70's. It might be a nice bike although it could have been better IMO.
I had a ride out to Eddies when they first got one in late 2021. I had to say I wasn't impressed, the frame welding was dire. Also in this day of cheap lazar etching what are the tacky BSA & 3 guns sticky back logos on the engine, they are going to last a long time in the British climate "Not". I didn't need a test ride to think that this bike had been thought up by chancers after a fast buck, not proud engineers!
I love the real heritage of the Royal Enfield brand but unfortunately the BSA is no more than a badge and marketing ploy. Good luck to Mahindra BSA though. 😊
I viewed and sat on one of these at the NEC 2023. The stand was almost empty. The staff there disinterested. I felt the radiator was horrid, and the general look was very inferior quality. The engine is unquestionable though. Riding it from your cockpit POV it’s quite lovely and sounds gorgeous. Like others on here commented, superb review and my fears would be back up and spares and therefore could never own one. Where I live any motorcycle dealer back up is looking quite grim. Many dealers closed over last 20yrs. If you break down in summer the chances of riding in weeks is slim. Interesting history thankyou. Rotax also used in a lot of marine and snow mobiles
Mr Wheeler, In a previous video, you defend the Yorkshire accent and quite rightly too. In this video you proclaim Turner over Picasso suggesting that the classic is more dear to you than the modern. So why why why would you use such a dreadful word (if it is) like "getgo"? A true Turner fan would have said "Start" or "Beginning". I applaud you for looking at the new BSA Gold Star as a motorcycle in its own right. I did once own a DBD34 and I can tell you that as a road bike, it was the most inconvenient means of personal transport you could choose with the possible exception of a steam roller. If the new owners paid £3.4m for the BSA name and are producing a bike which is certainly no insult to the name, good luck to them.
I'll be having a test ride next month, and all being well ill be ordering the new black Goldie in march. It's a modern classic with the emphasis on the word modern, it has to be liquid cooled to work effectively and with a high degree of reliability. With regard to the aesthetics, it's very much subjective but for me the quality of the finish and general look of the bike it's the only machine that compares favourably with the classic 350, and is far better looking than the interceptor. Well done BSA, the world of biking is a better place with it's presence
You can get areal BSA Gold Star for twice as much money and it won't lose value. You can buy a BSA B 31 for the same price. The British motorcycles industry was miss managed right into the ground. My BSA 441 Shooting Star is closer to the Gold Star than that fake.
I don’t know why folk get so hot under the collar about bike reviews. It’s down to the individual, if you like it you like it. It’s boring if we all like the same thing. I wonder what the response would have been if it hadn’t been called a gold star but something else. Good luck with the upcoming reviews, it sounds like a game of countdown with all those letters ? Must be a nightmare to keep mentioning the full model detail, why not call it Jenny or Fred 🥱😁😁😁
Hi Dave . I have to comment re the BSA . I do not like the rad on the front. It just doesnt look right . Its supposed to be a retro bike and no bike from any retro eara ha that. The Enfiled had stayed with the Retro idea and have produced a bike to match at a great a great price .Enfield have come a long way with quality control and its a better product than the BSA and after sales service is second to none.
Bikes are the most subjective we ever make I think with the possible exception of houses and looks are very much subjective. I personally wouldn't agree that the Goldstar is better looking than the Interceptor but your opinion is no less valid and we all like something different. I'm not a big fan of the looks of the Classic 350 personally, I get the appeal, but to my eyes it looks like an old man's bike it reminds me of men in trench coats with those leather covered peaked helmets on their way to work on a wet Monday morning but each to their own I say.
I was a Royal Enfield fan from way back, from when they made the original pre unit Bullet 500s. I have a 2004 RE Bullet 500, and a 2013 Bullet (not Classic) 500, converted from EFI to an Amal Concentric MK1 carburetor and an aftermarket cat free exhaust. I liked the first RE Interceptors, except they were too smooth and quiet. But since then, RE has gone down the flat black road, and I am no longer a fan. Obviously the BSA "Goldstar" is a complete fake, as there is no connection whatsoever between it and the original BSA company. The same is true of the Indian brand in the U.S. It is a complete fake. The original Indian Motorcycle Company went out of business in 1953. Now, I don't really have an issue with these bikes being fakes, other than the companies that made them trying to establish a connection between the fakes and the real thing. Polaris Indian actually put 1901 on their engines, even thought the first ones were sold in 2014. I have a problem with that. Calling the new "BSA" a BSA is ok, as long as they are not claiming any connection with the real, and long gone BSA company. But calling it a "Goldstar" is pushing it a bit too far, IMO. They could have just called it a BSA 650. I do have some quality issues with it, and I also feel it needs a lot more chrome parts on it. I also have a problem with ALL "modern" bikes having tube type tires. I have almost been killed by tube type tires before, and flats with tube type tires have cost me thousands of $$$. Never had a problem with tubeless tires. It's not 1940 anymore.
I reckon it's a better looking bike than the Interceptor, and it feels more substantial to me too. I’m just pleased it is badged as a BSA Gold Star, or it would have been written off by us brand conscious Brits as a budget oddity, and we would have missed out on a great bike.
So the new Goldie really is a bitsa then. The arguments pertaining to the radiator are valid as is how can it be a gold star when it’s not top of the range of anything as the original Goldie was the best B group bike. The lack of dealerships, warranty and spares are a valid issue too. I own a 1957 B Group BSA. Had it 30 odd yrs now. I would consider buying a new Goldie if a dealership was near to where I live. Despite the radiator I still think the new Goldie is drop dead gorgeous, I actually like the inaccurate B group appendages. I take the new Goldie on its merits as a brand new bike. But Dave; your wrong on one very important point my friend. The new Goldie is not better looking than an Interceptor. 🤪 Great video as always man; luv it. Ride safe my friend. Neil
The only way to take the new Goldie is on its own merits, which is a modern, water-cooled bike in old fashioned clothes. The new all-black version is very attractive. It is compromised by afterthought switchgear and lack of dealers. I suspect an air-cooled version would never get past emission standards, and for that reason we're unlikely to see a big Enfield single.
@@borderlands6606 Fair comment. I take the new Goldie on its merit as a brand new machine. However. If this machine is to be taken on its merits as a brand new machine then why have BSA tapped into the historic, nostalgia elements? This is why, realistically, the new Goldie will never be identified as purely a newly designed motorcycle. It shall always be identified as a thoroughly modern motorcycle which relies on accents from past glories.
@@mrgrizzlyrides I own an RE Classic 350. It's one of the closest bikes to the original, but its engine owes more to the Japanese than old British. That's the reality of modern classic motorcycles, if the owner is happy with them that's all that matters. To the non-enthusiast they're all mistaken for old British bikes, which is what they are supposed to do.
@@borderlands6606 Classic 350 is an excellent machine, but it doesn’t feed off past glories. The new 350 Bullet is part of a continuing development strategy dating from Reditch Royal Enfield Bullets. The original BSA Gold Star was called GOLD Star because of Brooklands and was a badge of honour and award; a motorcycle had to earn a Brooklands Gold Star. Not quite sure what the new Goldie has achieved to warrant such an illustrious name. Other than it’s nostalgic connotations of course. Royal Enfield motorcycles cannot be compared to the new Goldie. There is nothing in RE’s model line up that compares to the new Goldie. Going straight to the Gold Star name was a mistake. If the new company had called it say “India Star”, reminiscent of the former Blue Star or even used the former Flash monogram it would have stopped the discussion dead. It would have been accepted as a modern water cooled single cylinder motorcycle; just as RE’s Interceptor is accepted as a modern oil cooled parallel twin. Good luck BSA with the new Goldie. If a reputable dealer comes near to me I will test ride and purchase if I like the bike and it’s reliability is proven. It will sit proudly next to my 1957 BSA B31, RE Interceptor and Himalayan.
@@mrgrizzlyrides I agree calling the bike "Gold Star" was serious over-reach. Realistically, that's what start up companies who have bought the BSA name are going to do. Seen from the front, the radiator takes up a lot of real estate (almost Suzuki kettle looks), and the engine has a kind of diesel appearance at a glance. It's certainly not a DBD34 scratcher. None of that matters if enough of the target market like the bike. Now if someone brought out a knock-off Panther sloper...
Good video as always but why was you running around like a headless 🐓 turning around all the time 😂 keep doing what your doing so well can’t wait for more content take care ride safe 👍👋
I think my biggest gripe with this machine is the name . I alike it to 4 lads forming a rock band and calling themselves Led Zeppelin . The bike shouldn't be called a BSA Goldstar .. its not and can never be one . They should of chosen a new name and thrown it into the pool . Can't help but think that would of created a much more interesting concept .
@@andrewhayes4246not sure about the comparison with royal Enfield as they have never stopped building bikes , it's just that the Indian factory didn't stop once the UK shut down , where as the BSA is just a name used by an Indian company now
@@TheGarrydn1 I see what you are saying, but I don't think that difference matters that much. The Gold Star's teething troubles are it's biggest problem.
@@andrewhayes4246 yeah true I like the BSA but I don't think quality is quite there yet , although it's teething problems probably make it closer to an original goldstar
Choosing a single-cylinder engine was a good choice because it avoids direct comparison with the Interceptor and as large capacity singles are rare, ( are there any others currently being made?), it created a unique modern motorbike. Concerning the word 'Prejudice', I see constant negative comments about the bike being made in India. Is that racial prejudice or engineering prejudice? Do people think these bikes are being knocked out by flip-flop-wearing chaps in village workshops? It would be very nice to see the BSA assembly line; I'm sure it's as good as any other 21st-century vehicle assembly plant.
Rotax make excellent engines. Always preferred Triumph over BSA as the bikes looked a bit more modern in the 70’s but everyone to their own. The last BSA made was in fact a badged Triumph and had the ‘T’ designation. Not a fan of Enfield because of their 50 year lack of development. That’s just lazy. Never liked them in the 60’s tbh. And I never knew that Anthea Turner could paint! 😉😉
Your video of the Gold Star imposter features the bike zooming down straight roads where handling is not an issue. Might you show a true twisty road that challenges a bike's handling? No. This would reveal that this bike is grossly overweight and not suited for corners. What bike can improve on this? Easy! A DBD 34, the real Gold Star.
Well, I find that all RE fans are prejudice against all competitors regardless of place of manufacture. The truth is the RE's are not truly retro motor cycles, they no longer have the 360 deg cranks of the original models. The TRUTH is that TRIUMPH is the only motorcycle that survived the industrial revolution in the UK, and for good reason.
Having written various bikes only years in this modern world,cambus fuel injection and we having to meet all these euro whatever engine specifications, water cooling is a means to keep the noise down and also moderate the engines temperature to keep it within certain parameters. It’s not the prettiest radiator in the world it’s not a bad bike. It’s not a star probably faster than gold Star Wars and its day all I can hear them moaning now probably a lot more reliable it looks a nice bike by myself I don’t like head down ass up motorcycles. They offend my eye. They offend my pocket when you damage them. Unfortunately nowadays, I cannot ride bikes as much as I used to know getting older bits and pieces falling off. That’s me not the bike when you come off motorcycle, which you will you can always put it right into the shed, going to the local motorcycle shop proper motorcycle shop I should say and buy parts to get bike back on the road again, I still do this to the day on my BSA A10 by the way, I’m the third member of family from you to own this motorcycle, we’re still trying to get our moneys worth out of it. Have a funny attitude towards motorcycle ride your own race the biggest thing for a motorcycle as far as in concerned if your bike reaches at 100,000 miles, it was money well spent if your bike reaches 200,000 miles, it was money well spent and you were good and looking after your motorcycle don’t ride motorcycles like a pair of underpants and change them every five minutes Michael Long time, motorcyclist
All the people who call this bike I have a question, what if mahindra had bought the Vincent name and built a V twin 1000cc based on an aprillia rsv motor (rotax design) would you have a downer on that? Or would you rather not see the name on the roads again? If bsa where to come back as an all British company, what do you think they would be making? Certainly not an air cooled kickstart 500cc thumper, it wouldn’t do anything apart from keep the die hards happy, just look at the new Norton commando!! Another doomed bike….they can only sell them in the uk as they won’t pass euro5. I dare say the goldstar motor was designed by the UK but built by rotax on the back of an already tested engine. Good luck bsa
I love a few royal Enfield bikes and an considering a Continental gt. But the BSA Goldstar is a lot better looking than the interceptor. That front fender alone looks so nice, kinda like the fender on the classic 350. I wish they would make a cafe racer version.
The BSA is a far better looking motorcycle than the RE imo and certainly has a better engine and sound. I can't understand why anyone would object to the radiator 😅 it's a modern BSA , far better than the old ones.
I do fancy the interceptor but the thing that i don’t like aesthetically about it , that this bike has is the fork rake angle on this looks better. It’s just a few degrees out a bit more. The interceptor is the same as its twin the continental gt that is more racer so the turning might aspire to be more responsive but on the more cruisy roadster interceptor it doesn’t suit it. This rake angle on this bsa looks more like an old triumph and it looks better. If RE are looking at new model design changes to make the next model different for next model sake , I’d pull the fork rake angle out a touch like this one.
Definitely looks better than the Interceptor 650 ..misses out on LED lights...think a twin cylinder motor will be more fun than this single....waiting for its launch in India
the radiator isnt that bad, remember gt750 suzukis? for me its the blatant ripping off of the history of a much loved british company, the same thing with the indian putting since 1901 on everything
I am annoyed with BSA as they are now......this machine from BSA.....is just not good enough to have the BSA name on it. Shame on BSA for releasing such tat as your first BSA offerings. So sad.....I was looking forward to seeing the new BSA but felt so let down on seeing it in the flesh on my road test day. A very uninspiring road test it was to. RE is a completely different kettle of fish......very nice machines.
You're the one who has to ride and enjoy it. Who cares what the other Lemmings think. I really like it over the Royal Enfield. I love the sound it makes. Take care Dave and ride safe. Cheers
My prejudice is that these bikes are a throwback to 1950s culture when they were sold exclusively as toys for affluent retired people who owned multiple other vehicles and went abroad twice a year.
The royal enfeild 650, is a bitza. The engine was designed in germany as was the whole production plant to make the bike in India. The frame was designed in Britain, and although the RE brand made a vertical twin, you couldn't say that the 650 with a 270 degree firing order is anything like the 700 or 750 of the 1960's. It is a bit like people trying to make out the Triumphs are really British, when the engines are made in south east asia. All of these arguments are for people with arrested development. It is why britain still has an oppressive Monarchy, you are all treated like children and act that as well.
I currently ride a 1995 BMW F650 here in NZ. Powered by an indestructible Rotax 650 single with suspiciously similar specs to this one. Very punchy and fun. Not as charming as this but probably more comfortable. Great engine. Fantastic reliability record. I would have this bike in a heartbeat if it gets here. Perfect for NZ backroad riding. Great vid, Dave
I've got a 2001 ! Paid $2k for it.
Both bikes have their pluses and minuses. Both are Indian manufactured and build quality is similar IMO. Performance is different but not in any major way. I love singles and also twins, I recently purchased a new RE Interceptor (my second) I nearly went for the BSA but preferred the look of the interceptor. I may try a BSA next time but at 76 this year I might not be riding for much longer. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My father turned ninety last summer. He is still riding and just put together a Moto Guzzi/Watsonian outfit, so you've a few years to go yet.
I like a bike review to contain some idea of servicing intervals and cost, spares and accessories availability and some of the real basics - how easy is it to put on a centre stand if fitted, is the usb port accessible, how awkward is the fuel tank lock etc. Yes, lots of basics to choose from!
Well on the BSA it's usb is sat like an ugly gremlin on the left bar 🙄
The service intervals on the Interceptor and the BSA are completely different. The first is 300 for the RE and 500 for the BSA. The RE literally needs the valves checked every year whereas the BSA is 20000 miles.
Good points there Ian
Easy removal that usb 😊👍🏻
Last year I decided to change my 2009 Bonnerville for another modern classic. I firstly tried the Interceptor and loved it and then i took the BSA out and fell in love with its big thumper character, so i bought one in black/chrome. Personally i couldn't give a monkeys cuss what anybody else thinks of my choice, i love it. I've had it for one year with virtually no problems whatsoever its had its first service, started to loosen up and as for the radiator i don't even notice it at all. Coupled with everything else the BSA dealer here in Lancashire is top draw and always helpful.
Do we still have one in Lancashire? There's no mention of them on his website and bsa are listing Shipley as the nearest one too Lancashire 🤔
@@ianhalliwell8604 well I thought the same, but bsa don't list him anymore on their site,and on his there's no mention of bsa anymore 🤔
Yes your right it seems Matt stopped selling new BSA bike's on Jan 1st. He still is an authorised service provider but following problems with BSA he won't be selling any new bike's.
@@ianhalliwell8604 okay thank you for confirming 🙂
I would buy one in a minute for that big single.
Something still bothers me though as far as dealer availability and service after the sale.
Here in the US dealers are as rare as hen's teeth. I can't find one in a reasonable distance.
This brings up the question of warranty service, and long term ownership.
It always seemed to me that BSA was always an afterthought to Mahindra.
If or when RE reissued a big single, I'd buy one tomorrow.
There are no dealers in the USA? Zero, zip, nada, zilch?
I have owned and flown Rotax powered aircraft for over twenty years with hundreds of hours without any problems, it has to be the most popular light aircraft engine of recent years.
Is their main competition Lycoming?
@@thebingleywheeler Rotax 80/100 and up to 150 hp are very popular in light sports aircraft and microlights, Lycoming offer greater power output and popular in larger and heavier tourers and competition aircraft.
Good points made, I test rode the BSA late last year and really enjoyed the bike and would have been interested in purchasing it if I had room and hadn't just purchased another bike! I found the BSA to be more comfortable than the Interceptor straight out of the crate. I don't find the radiator distracting but felt little things let the appearance down like the engine finish, stickers on the engine, and the huge USB port on the handlebars. At the time of my test ride the BSA was £7200 but Moto Guzzi were offering the V7 stone for £7500, a far more authentic machine than either the BSA, RE or even Triumph! By the way, Rotax made the 650cc single that was used in the BMW F650 and the Aprilia back in the mid 1990s. I had an F650 then, and it was a great bike.
I ride a 2007 BMW f650 GS with the Rotax unit, good engines, powered me from UK to the Balkans with zero problems.
Another entertaining video 👍 Maybe in your next review of the gold star you could address the availability of spare parts ? This is something I’ve often wondered about. Keep up the good work 👍
Cheers Jon good point 👍🏻
I’ve only owned mine for just under a month and already feels like an old friend .it brings a smile to my face’ and others whenever we pop out for a ride . My favourite story’s from my grandad always involved his BSA gold star . And I feel proper lucky that in 2024 I can have a BSA Goldstar as well. regardless of what brand of steed tickles your pickle we are all just out for a ride and in my humble opinion , man that’s just pretty dam cool .
Well said sir
It's a gorgeous bike and I wish they sold them here in the u.s.
3 of my pals have bought them they all praise them i think they look good value and rotax are a great engine but its only a BSA in name i don't suppose it matters if your out enjoying riding it thats what its about
The only prejudice is badge snobbery. It's actually a Jawa but no one in Britain would have bought it. Knowing this, Mahindra bought the BSA name. It's very similar to bikes Jawa have made in the past (Rotax 500 and especially the vintage 660) and indeed many of the components are from the Jawa 350 ohc's left overs, hence the comments by a few owners that some of them are inadequate, I'm sure they'll iron out the creases though, they're a good bike. Mahindra bought all manufacturing rights to Jawa years ago, as well as peugeot scooters etc.
Cheers that’s very interesting history indeed 👍🏻
I guess it worked for RE and triumph and Norton so why not bsa - that said Jawa had their moments too -
We are spoiled with all these gorgeous retro bikes. All the glamour without the hassle. As a lover of vintage/retro bikes its a great time.
Oh my, you're easily pleased.
Keep polishing those rose tinted specs, now.😂👍
Ok🤣
Nice video Dave. It's a machine that has always divided opinion and had an uphill battle on its hands. A member on the Facebook group pointed out there is a trio of ex owners who had problems with the bikes now on a crusade to bring the model into disrepute. I'm on 800 miles now on mine so let's see how it goes for me. If there are problems I'll post about them but so far all the issues were my own fault 😂😂😂. Thanks for doing the video!
Cheers Buddy I reckon if you adopt a long term strategy on that bike and cover all the issues as the miles tick over it’ll be very popular content 👍🏻
I had an Interceptor for three years, I enjoyed it but never really liked the riding position and the footrest positioning, so traded it in for a Classic 350 which I find far more comfortable and more planted on the road .
I've not had a go on the BSA but sat on one and felt it was instantly a better riding position than the Interceptor, but I think it's a good looking bike, but neither of them are as good looking as my Gunmetal grey Classic!
😉 cheers Dave, looking forward to the next reviews 👍
Yes Mel but the Classic is the darling of the show and hard pressed to beat for looks 😁
I'm a bit on the fence, but I can't help asking , how many folk would have bought it, if it was called Mahindra 650..without any reference to the goldstar.
Good point! 👍🏻
The problem if it is a problem is that large displacement singles are not as flexible as a Twin.
Interesting Dave, another "Badge Engineered" bike just like Triumph.
Whatever the pros and cons of this type of manufacture and marketing, does it really matter, We the motorcycling community now have the choice of fabulous "retro" bikes like the Bonneville and now the Gold Star as well as the genuine article (Royal Enfield ) haha!
Maybe a road test of a new Triumph 400 & ask the question, is it really a Triumph? would set the comments section alight...
🙌enjoyed that Dave and obviously I have one and agree with all your comments of course and I don’t let the negativity bother me😊😊
It’s a great looking bike and what’s not to like 😊it’s a modern interpretation of a BSA Gold Star that’s all and what s great job they’ve done too 😊😊
The interceptor I love that bike and you know, it’s a twin and a totally different look to the BSA,people just don’t get it? It’s apples 🍏 and oranges 🍊 we all like what we like! 🙌🙌
Great to see you riding the Legacy like mine il get the a coffee for that
All the best phil green
Il probably catch you down at Eddys sometime 😊😊
We all know it's a Mahindra with a big radiator etc. To me the more manufacturers in the showrooms the better. It will keep prices in competition rather than just the big 4 with Royal Enfield and Triumph coming in with token offerings.
Why do you consider RE and triumph as token offerings?... both offer excellent bikes IMHO.
I do wish BSA could deliver to Australia.
Good Morning Dave , Yet again another very enjoyable video , i have to say it is a very nice bike plus i would have one tbf , so as always ride safe mate
Give me a Turner over a Picasso, give me a Picasso over an unmade bed or a dead sheep.
Thanks for this interesting video on the history of these great brands.
Like the look of the bsa , i know its got to have a radiator but the filler reminds me of lifting the bonnet of a cortina could have been hidden better , looks like a after thought
The BSA is what it is - a handsome motorcycle engineered and styled to replicate the original 50’s/60’s machines of the same name. As that it stands up well and is no doubt a joy to own and ride. I just wish however that owners and reviewers would stop banging on about its heritage and historical context. It has no heritage, it is a completely new bike from a different company. I think this is what annoys people, this attempt to convince everyone that this bike is somehow a direct like back to British built bikes from 60 years ago. It’s a great looking, great riding modern bike styled to look like an old BSA - be happy with that, because that’s what it is.
Yes the lack of true heritage is exactly what I point out in the video….still a great looking bike though
Good morning Dave.
I briefly joined the "Just British Motorcycles" FB group. I thought, why not as I'd recently purchased a 2021 T100. I was a bit surprised to be allowed but obviously the admins thought it reasonable. I wasn't surprised by the instant and vitriolic backlash though. Life's too short to try and stay where you're not wanted so I didn't stick around. But not before I'd posted a pic of my Thai-built steed outside the Triumph factory at Hinckley with the title, "Pilgrimage to it's birthplace". Hopefully, this ruffled a few of the purists feathers too - it not being Meridan and all that 😂
Good for you Philip way to go 😊👍🏻
Obviously it’s looks are subjective. I prefer the look of my Interceptor. Don’t dislike the BSA though. In my opinion the choice of the Goldstar moniker on this model was a mistake. It should have been reserved for a high performance version.
The comments made regarding it just being a BSA in name only, can’t argue, but so are the Hinckley based Triumphs, using the same logic.
Water cooled engines, sadly are where performance & emissions requirements are at these days, with a few exceptions. The production model BSA, looks much better than the pre- production one did.
Certainly better finished than the pre production models seen at the NEC in 2022 👍🏻
‘champagne looks at lemonade prices’…Love it!😅
G'day Dave, to give historical context to BSA, they were actually established in 1861 by fourteen local gunsmiths who came together as a firearms manufacturer, based in the Gun Quarter, Birmingham. The first recorded gun maker in Birmingham was in 1630 and since that date firearms have continued to be manufactured there. Indeed, The Birmingham Gun Barrel Proof House was built in 1813 to test (give Proof) each weapon so as to ensure its safety, as laid down in the Gun Barrel Proof Act. There have been various Amendments to the Act (eg 1855, 1868, 1950, 1987 and the current 2006) which ensure that all small arms, new or used, that are sold in the UK must be fully proven and so marked with the authorised stamp of the Proof House. The building itself is quite Dickensian inside and that impression is enhanced by the passage of trains at rooftop height immediately in front of the building and the canal at the back.
I personally like the look of the Goldstar 650 and would like a test ride if/when they ever arrive here in Oz, though I doubt that it would replace my Guzzi Breva 750.
Cheers Chris that’s very interesting history pal…..the term proofing lives on today as firearms police officers here are often called out to proof suspect weapons
Very good. That's 'real' history, as distinct from 'implied' history. 7:57
@@thebingleywheeler You're welcome Dave; my late father-in-law was a Birmingham gun maker, though he died back in 1966. My first job after the military was as a weapons inspector, at the Proof House.
The choice of motorcycle purchase is extremely subjective. Like you I have bought a BSA which I think looks great and different from the mainstream. I also own a Royal Enfield Meteor which is a great bike. At the end of the day you buy what you like.
I think the availability of parts and dealers will let these bikes down. I can't find any dealers in Wales, nearest one is 200 miles away. They are a good looking bike and as a RE Super Meteor owner I would consider one as a second bike but i'm edging towards the RE Classic 350 or Interceptor. There are mixed reviews on the bikes performance, be good if you can put this to rest as I have seen various reviews stating its under powered and also look into the parts situation Great content as usual👍
I can't believe people would question the appearance of a radiator! Least of all one so well blended into the design. I have a Thunderbird 900 triple and it's radiator sticks out like the proverbial and most people don't comment on that, they just say it looks just like their old Bonnie from the '60s! I am absolutely certain that if BSA had miraculously survived intact to this day that they would have embraced any technologies at they deemed necessary/appropriate, and liquid cooling is a no brainer. I so wish my T'bird had EFI.
This has the classic BSA lines, but my era is more Victor/Starfire, so would have liked to see a seventies classic.
A good bike is a good bike, irrespective of its heritage and place of manufacture.
I like most of the RE range. And most road bikes.. Currently i ride the RE scram 411 .. id love to give the BSA a go... but not yet available in Australia to my knowledge..
BSA not down under in NZ 🇳🇿 or Ausie yet & don't think 🤔 it's coming which is a shame.
Is it a UK & India only bike?
The 650 Rotax engine is a tried & tested motor.I reckon you could put a aftermarket high flow Radiator which is slimmer profile so it's similar to a Triumph style radiator if you wanted too.There will always be haters but as long as you like it is all that matters.
BMW used the Rotax 650 engine in the Funduro & there are many still going a testament to reliablility.
nz dealers now announced and pricing fairly sharp
Heyup Dave , Rotax also built the v60 twins for the early aprilias , mille, tuono . Perhaps for the purists we could start a business converting their bikes to points ,condensors etc ,and give them a free container for under the sump .Tommy Tickle
Ha ha yes top idea! 😁
I agree on the GoldStar.. although I really wish they hadn’t put that stripe on the tank and mudguards.. the Highland green and legacy edition bikes don’t have it and look much better IMHO.. I also can’t be the only one who has wondered what a Goldstar with an interceptor engine would be like?? 🤔
Thanks Dave another lovely ride through the dales.. I never tire of watching that.. hopefully will get up your way this spring/summer 👍🏻
Cheers Duncan….I’m chomping at the bit! 😁
Hope you can do the bullet review soon the seat on that looks monster comfy lol. Wish they would make a 500cc verion though!!.
Well I possibly represent the demographic who will actually purchase one of these bikes. I’m in my early sixties have ridden since I was a teen and already own a “main” bike and am looking for something a bit different to ride around the countryside on. I am actively looking to buy now, so why haven’t I bought a Gold Star yet. My list of reasons are dealer location (my nearest is Eddy’s in Tadcaster which is 100 miles away). Knowledge of the brand as in what are spares like to get hold of and how do they hold up for warranty claims etc. So for me it’s watch this space, will I or won’t I? I would love to know from people who actually own one what they think.
i like this bike, the finish is great, but GT motorcycles Plymouth has a row of six in different colours all discounted to £6000 (£6800 retail) and none have sold???
Once again, reasoned and unbiased commentary, Dave. You've made good points.
If this bike and others of it's ilk, provide pleasure and pride through ownership, then fair play to them.
What grates me is all the flag waving that comes from certain advocates of such machines. No amount of brandishing the Union Jack can conceal the fact that this bike, is 'Made in India', with a power plant that's, 'Made in Austria'.🤦♂️ Yes, it's designed in Britain, but not, 'Made in Britain'.
Big difference.
Ride safe pal.👍
Cheers Mark ride safe too pal 👍🏻
Uk has to accept its failure, imported food and energy, foreign owned industry, We are not on the world stage anymore, good on the Indian company for making this happen, left to the Uk it would have been a non event.
@@aceofspades5786 Agreed. However, that was not my point. My issue is the rose tinted spectacle wearing, flag waving brigade naively believing they're somehow being patriotic by riding such machines.
Umm....they're not.🤭
TBW, the BSA is a nice looking motorcycle, no doubt about that. What I originally mentioned in your first review was the definitive aspect of the radiator with a finned looking engine. The other issue in my book is that ghastly looking USB port just sitting on the handlebar looking like an afterthought, an attachment, a hanger-on, an appendage… a debacle. The small arms decal on the FI pod looks great though!
I asked my dealer to take the USB off before i took delivery. Like you i thought it was hideous and looked out of place.
Another enjoyable vid. 👍 I'm not alone in this view, it's not a BSA let alone a "Goldie", it's a pastiche, a homage, a fake? For some that ticks their box for those like me it's an utter turn off even though l've nothing against the bike itself. You can get a Rolex GMT for £120, but it says "Pagani Design" on the dial, at least there's a bit (just) of honesty there.
The new BSA’s styling looks contrived to me and knowing that the original was a true high performance machine, not true to its legacy. The Royal Enfields to my eyes are far more appealing and their lineage is undeniable.
The radiator IMO was poorly integrated into the design. If you wanted L/C, why not contour the physical size and attachments to smoothly work with the surrounding mechanical bits? That said, this engine is not a highly stressed unit and IMO could have been oil cooled with advantages, too many to ignore. The bike could have been kept much lighter, something which would have allowed the overall design to fit into the original flavor of the Gold Star. As it stands, it looks too heavy and is, something the original was not. Handling would have benefited as would acceleration and maintenance would be much less overall. A Suzuki DR650 single has a oil cooler, has been around for decades and is very light for it's size at 366 lbs wet and has a reputation for stacking up the miles with minimal maintenance.
The pressed seam on the new Gold Star's tank can be eliminated, resulting in a lighter, much better appearance. Reducing the overall weight of the bike would allow you to pare back the pieces resulting in something which resembles the original in a accurate fashion.
It has the letters BSA on the tank although, that's just a name someone purchased when purchasing the rights. The last true BSA was built in the 70's.
It might be a nice bike although it could have been better IMO.
Great vid, informative & well shot. What’s up with the dials? Seems to only be “flat out” 😁
Clocks rotate , from right side of dials opposite to most known bikes, but same as original Gold Star
I had a ride out to Eddies when they first got one in late 2021. I had to say I wasn't impressed, the frame welding was dire. Also in this day of cheap lazar etching what are the tacky BSA & 3 guns sticky back logos on the engine, they are going to last a long time in the British climate "Not". I didn't need a test ride to think that this bike had been thought up by chancers after a fast buck, not proud engineers!
I love the real heritage of the Royal Enfield brand but unfortunately the BSA is no more than a badge and marketing ploy. Good luck to Mahindra BSA though. 😊
I viewed and sat on one of these at the NEC 2023. The stand was almost empty. The staff there disinterested. I felt the radiator was horrid, and the general look was very inferior quality. The engine is unquestionable though. Riding it from your cockpit POV it’s quite lovely and sounds gorgeous. Like others on here commented, superb review and my fears would be back up and spares and therefore could never own one. Where I live any motorcycle dealer back up is looking quite grim. Many dealers closed over last 20yrs. If you break down in summer the chances of riding in weeks is slim. Interesting history thankyou. Rotax also used in a lot of marine and snow mobiles
I’m lucky as Tadcaster is manageable for me were I ever to have one 👍🏻
dont forget the rotax v twin in the Aprilia falco and mille 1000 a fantastic and reliable engine
Mr Wheeler, In a previous video, you defend the Yorkshire accent and quite rightly too. In this video you proclaim Turner over Picasso suggesting that the classic is more dear to you than the modern. So why why why would you use such a dreadful word (if it is) like "getgo"? A true Turner fan would have said "Start" or "Beginning".
I applaud you for looking at the new BSA Gold Star as a motorcycle in its own right. I did once own a DBD34 and I can tell you that as a road bike, it was the most inconvenient means of personal transport you could choose with the possible exception of a steam roller. If the new owners paid £3.4m for the BSA name and are producing a bike which is certainly no insult to the name, good luck to them.
I like to drop a bit of modernism into the lingo 😂
I'd rather it had a bit less power and an air, oil cooled engine.
No need for the Moris Minor radiator.
Nice review...
Lots of questions put to oneself, but none answered.
Excellent video Gov.
Cheers Ian much appreciated
I'll be having a test ride next month, and all being well ill be ordering the new black Goldie in march. It's a modern classic with the emphasis on the word modern, it has to be liquid cooled to work effectively and with a high degree of reliability. With regard to the aesthetics, it's very much subjective but for me the quality of the finish and general look of the bike it's the only machine that compares favourably with the classic 350, and is far better looking than the interceptor. Well done BSA, the world of biking is a better place with it's presence
The new black one is a beauty
You can get areal BSA Gold Star for twice as much money and it won't lose value. You can buy a BSA B 31 for the same price. The British motorcycles industry was miss managed right into the ground. My BSA 441 Shooting Star is closer to the Gold Star than that fake.
Great work Dave here’s a coffee ☕️
Thank you Phil very much appreciate that
Like the music
I'm buying a Royal Enfield next this year but only because I can't buy a BSA in my country.
I don’t know why folk get so hot under the collar about bike reviews.
It’s down to the individual, if you like it you like it.
It’s boring if we all like the same thing.
I wonder what the response would have been if it hadn’t been called a gold star but something else.
Good luck with the upcoming reviews, it sounds like a game of countdown with all those letters ? Must be a nightmare to keep mentioning the full model detail, why not call it Jenny or Fred 🥱😁😁😁
Indeed so pal…..I look forward to reviewing the new Fred GSXS-GX 😂😂😂
All depends if you prefer 50s or 60s styling 🤷♂️
Hi Dave . I have to comment re the BSA . I do not like the rad on the front. It just doesnt look right . Its supposed to be a retro bike and no bike from any retro eara ha that. The Enfiled had stayed with the Retro idea and have produced a bike to match at a great a great price .Enfield have come a long way with quality control and its a better product than the BSA and after sales service is second to none.
Bikes are the most subjective we ever make I think with the possible exception of houses and looks are very much subjective. I personally wouldn't agree that the Goldstar is better looking than the Interceptor but your opinion is no less valid and we all like something different. I'm not a big fan of the looks of the Classic 350 personally, I get the appeal, but to my eyes it looks like an old man's bike it reminds me of men in trench coats with those leather covered peaked helmets on their way to work on a wet Monday morning but each to their own I say.
Trench coats on a wet ride….those were the days….happy times 😊👍🏻
How does it go on the motorway? feel solid? keeps up?
Yes seamless at 70 👍🏻
Eeee up thanks for the info
Sorry, Dave, you got the founding of the Birmingham Small Arms Company Ltd wrong, it was founded in 1861, not in the early 20th century.
I was a Royal Enfield fan from way back, from when they made the original pre unit Bullet 500s. I have a 2004 RE Bullet 500, and a 2013 Bullet (not Classic) 500, converted from EFI to an Amal Concentric MK1 carburetor and an aftermarket cat free exhaust. I liked the first RE Interceptors, except they were too smooth and quiet. But since then, RE has gone down the flat black road, and I am no longer a fan. Obviously the BSA "Goldstar" is a complete fake, as there is no connection whatsoever between it and the original BSA company. The same is true of the Indian brand in the U.S. It is a complete fake. The original Indian Motorcycle Company went out of business in 1953. Now, I don't really have an issue with these bikes being fakes, other than the companies that made them trying to establish a connection between the fakes and the real thing. Polaris Indian actually put 1901 on their engines, even thought the first ones were sold in 2014. I have a problem with that. Calling the new "BSA" a BSA is ok, as long as they are not claiming any connection with the real, and long gone BSA company. But calling it a "Goldstar" is pushing it a bit too far, IMO. They could have just called it a BSA 650. I do have some quality issues with it, and I also feel it needs a lot more chrome parts on it. I also have a problem with ALL "modern" bikes having tube type tires. I have almost been killed by tube type tires before, and flats with tube type tires have cost me thousands of $$$. Never had a problem with tubeless tires. It's not 1940 anymore.
I reckon it's a better looking bike than the Interceptor, and it feels more substantial to me too. I’m just pleased it is badged as a BSA Gold Star, or it would have been written off by us brand conscious Brits as a budget oddity, and we would have missed out on a great bike.
It certainly feels more solid than the Interceptor
So the new Goldie really is a bitsa then.
The arguments pertaining to the radiator are valid as is how can it be a gold star when it’s not top of the range of anything as the original Goldie was the best B group bike.
The lack of dealerships, warranty and spares are a valid issue too.
I own a 1957
B Group BSA. Had it 30 odd yrs now.
I would consider buying a new Goldie if a dealership was near to where I live. Despite the radiator I still think the new Goldie is drop dead gorgeous, I actually like the inaccurate
B group appendages.
I take the new Goldie on its merits as a brand new bike.
But Dave; your wrong on one very important point my friend.
The new Goldie is not better looking than an Interceptor. 🤪
Great video as always man; luv it.
Ride safe my friend.
Neil
The only way to take the new Goldie is on its own merits, which is a modern, water-cooled bike in old fashioned clothes. The new all-black version is very attractive. It is compromised by afterthought switchgear and lack of dealers. I suspect an air-cooled version would never get past emission standards, and for that reason we're unlikely to see a big Enfield single.
@@borderlands6606 Fair comment.
I take the new Goldie on its merit as a brand new machine.
However. If this machine is to be taken on its merits as a brand new machine then why have BSA tapped into the historic, nostalgia elements?
This is why, realistically, the new Goldie will never be identified as purely a newly designed motorcycle. It shall always be identified as a thoroughly modern motorcycle which relies on accents from past glories.
@@mrgrizzlyrides I own an RE Classic 350. It's one of the closest bikes to the original, but its engine owes more to the Japanese than old British. That's the reality of modern classic motorcycles, if the owner is happy with them that's all that matters. To the non-enthusiast they're all mistaken for old British bikes, which is what they are supposed to do.
@@borderlands6606 Classic 350 is an excellent machine, but it doesn’t feed off past glories. The new 350 Bullet is part of a continuing development
strategy dating from Reditch Royal Enfield Bullets.
The original BSA Gold Star was called GOLD Star because of Brooklands and was a badge of honour and award; a motorcycle had to earn a Brooklands Gold Star.
Not quite sure what the new Goldie has achieved to warrant such an illustrious name. Other than it’s nostalgic connotations of course.
Royal Enfield motorcycles cannot be compared to the new Goldie. There is nothing in RE’s model line up that compares to the new Goldie.
Going straight to the Gold Star name was a mistake. If the new company had called it say “India Star”, reminiscent of the former Blue Star or even used the former Flash monogram it would have stopped the discussion dead. It would have been accepted as a modern water cooled single cylinder motorcycle; just as RE’s Interceptor is accepted as a modern oil cooled parallel twin.
Good luck BSA with the new Goldie. If a reputable dealer comes near to me I will test ride and purchase if I like the bike and it’s reliability is proven. It will sit proudly next to my 1957 BSA B31, RE Interceptor and Himalayan.
@@mrgrizzlyrides I agree calling the bike "Gold Star" was serious over-reach. Realistically, that's what start up companies who have bought the BSA name are going to do. Seen from the front, the radiator takes up a lot of real estate (almost Suzuki kettle looks), and the engine has a kind of diesel appearance at a glance. It's certainly not a DBD34 scratcher. None of that matters if enough of the target market like the bike. Now if someone brought out a knock-off Panther sloper...
Any idea if the Goldstar will be coming to the States?
I’ll try to find out for you
Thank you. I've ridden all of the RE bikes, but I'm curious about the BSA.@@thebingleywheeler
Good video as always but why was you running around like a headless 🐓 turning around all the time 😂 keep doing what your doing so well can’t wait for more content take care ride safe 👍👋
What about the fuel economy? I believe that's not covered by many other reviewers.
Didn’t bsa regal do an sr500 engined goldstar too 🤔
I think my biggest gripe with this machine is the name . I alike it to 4 lads forming a rock band and calling themselves Led Zeppelin . The bike shouldn't be called a BSA Goldstar .. its not and can never be one . They should of chosen a new name and thrown it into the pool . Can't help but think that would of created a much more interesting concept .
What about Royal Enfield doing the same? Nobody seems to care about that, why all the fuss?
@@andrewhayes4246not sure about the comparison with royal Enfield as they have never stopped building bikes , it's just that the Indian factory didn't stop once the UK shut down , where as the BSA is just a name used by an Indian company now
@@TheGarrydn1 I see what you are saying, but I don't think that difference matters that much. The Gold Star's teething troubles are it's biggest problem.
@@andrewhayes4246 yeah true I like the BSA but I don't think quality is quite there yet , although it's teething problems probably make it closer to an original goldstar
Nice one BW, no matter what they say it is a good looking and sounding bike
Cheers John 👍🏻
Choosing a single-cylinder engine was a good choice because it avoids direct comparison with the Interceptor and as large capacity singles are rare, ( are there any others currently being made?), it created a unique modern motorbike.
Concerning the word 'Prejudice', I see constant negative comments about the bike being made in India. Is that racial prejudice or engineering prejudice? Do people think these bikes are being knocked out by flip-flop-wearing chaps in village workshops? It would be very nice to see the BSA assembly line; I'm sure it's as good as any other 21st-century vehicle assembly plant.
Absolutely agreed sir 😊👍🏻
Rotax make excellent engines. Always preferred Triumph over BSA as the bikes looked a bit more modern in the 70’s but everyone to their own. The last BSA made was in fact a badged Triumph and had the ‘T’ designation. Not a fan of Enfield because of their 50 year lack of development. That’s just lazy. Never liked them in the 60’s tbh. And I never knew that Anthea Turner could paint! 😉😉
I like the BSA. That simple. It looks nice.
It’s a real looker 👍🏻
Your video of the Gold Star imposter features the bike zooming down straight roads where handling is not an issue. Might you show a true twisty road that challenges a bike's handling? No. This would reveal that this bike is grossly overweight and not suited for corners. What bike can improve on this? Easy! A DBD 34, the real Gold Star.
It handled superbly on the bends….you can’t film bends with a static camera you muppet! 🤣🤣🤣
Well, I find that all RE fans are prejudice against all competitors regardless of place of manufacture. The truth is the RE's are not truly retro motor cycles, they no longer have the 360 deg cranks of the original models. The TRUTH is that TRIUMPH is the only motorcycle that survived the industrial revolution in the UK, and for good reason.
Look to your left and you might see a revived BSA gold flash
I love that it's a single thumper and I wish the RE would be a big banger.
Having written various bikes only years in this modern world,cambus fuel injection and we having to meet all these euro whatever engine specifications, water cooling is a means to keep the noise down and also moderate the engines temperature to keep it within certain parameters. It’s not the prettiest radiator in the world it’s not a bad bike. It’s not a star probably faster than gold Star Wars and its day all I can hear them moaning now probably a lot more reliable it looks a nice bike by myself I don’t like head down ass up motorcycles. They offend my eye. They offend my pocket when you damage them. Unfortunately nowadays, I cannot ride bikes as much as I used to know getting older bits and pieces falling off. That’s me not the bike when you come off motorcycle, which you will you can always put it right into the shed, going to the local motorcycle shop proper motorcycle shop I should say and buy parts to get bike back on the road again, I still do this to the day on my BSA A10 by the way, I’m the third member of family from you to own this motorcycle, we’re still trying to get our moneys worth out of it. Have a funny attitude towards motorcycle ride your own race the biggest thing for a motorcycle as far as in concerned if your bike reaches at 100,000 miles, it was money well spent if your bike reaches 200,000 miles, it was money well spent and you were good and looking after your motorcycle don’t ride motorcycles like a pair of underpants and change them every five minutes Michael Long time, motorcyclist
Some great points there Michael I have to agree with you entirely 👍🏻
All the people who call this bike I have a question, what if mahindra had bought the Vincent name and built a V twin 1000cc based on an aprillia rsv motor (rotax design) would you have a downer on that? Or would you rather not see the name on the roads again? If bsa where to come back as an all British company, what do you think they would be making? Certainly not an air cooled kickstart 500cc thumper, it wouldn’t do anything apart from keep the die hards happy, just look at the new Norton commando!! Another doomed bike….they can only sell them in the uk as they won’t pass euro5. I dare say the goldstar motor was designed by the UK but built by rotax on the back of an already tested engine. Good luck bsa
Yes I do worry for Norton
I love a few royal Enfield bikes and an considering a Continental gt. But the BSA Goldstar is a lot better looking than the interceptor. That front fender alone looks so nice, kinda like the fender on the classic 350. I wish they would make a cafe racer version.
The BSA is a far better looking motorcycle than the RE imo and certainly has a better engine and sound.
I can't understand why anyone would object to the radiator 😅 it's a modern BSA , far better than the old ones.
I do fancy the interceptor but the thing that i don’t like aesthetically about it , that this bike has is the fork rake angle on this looks better. It’s just a few degrees out a bit more. The interceptor is the same as its twin the continental gt that is more racer so the turning might aspire to be more responsive but on the more cruisy roadster interceptor it doesn’t suit it.
This rake angle on this bsa looks more like an old triumph and it looks better.
If RE are looking at new model design changes to make the next model different for next model sake , I’d pull the fork rake angle out a touch like this one.
Definitely looks better than the Interceptor 650 ..misses out on LED lights...think a twin cylinder motor will be more fun than this single....waiting for its launch in India
I have to agree, for me the BSA looks nicer than the RE Interceptor although that too looks good. That single sounds great too. Thanks BW.
the radiator isnt that bad, remember gt750 suzukis? for me its the blatant ripping off of the history of a much loved british company, the same thing with the indian putting since 1901 on everything
I am annoyed with BSA as they are now......this machine from BSA.....is just not good enough to have the BSA name on it.
Shame on BSA for releasing such tat as your first BSA offerings.
So sad.....I was looking forward to seeing the new BSA but felt so let down on seeing it in the flesh on my road test day.
A very uninspiring road test it was to.
RE is a completely different kettle of fish......very nice machines.
You must’ve ridden a completely different bike to me
You're the one who has to ride and enjoy it. Who cares what the other Lemmings think. I really like it over the Royal Enfield. I love the sound it makes. Take care Dave and ride safe. Cheers
My prejudice is that these bikes are a throwback to 1950s culture when they were sold exclusively as toys for affluent retired people who owned multiple other vehicles and went abroad twice a year.
Internet opinions are just like buttholes, everyone's got one and most stink. Buy what you like and ignore the trolls.
I fully agree that this is better looking than the royal Enfield interceptor.
I much prefer the BSA to any RE. Rotax make great engines. My trike has a 1330cc Rotax triple. Nick
should be called BSE, built somewhere else
@Sir Fisher. BSE: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy,
AKA Mad cow disease
@@longjonwhite certainly need to be mad to buy one
Don’t care - the gold star to me is the nuts and looks it !!!!
The royal enfeild 650, is a bitza. The engine was designed in germany as was the whole production plant to make the bike in India. The frame was designed in Britain, and although the RE brand made a vertical twin, you couldn't say that the 650 with a 270 degree firing order is anything like the 700 or 750 of the 1960's. It is a bit like people trying to make out the Triumphs are really British, when the engines are made in south east asia. All of these arguments are for people with arrested development. It is why britain still has an oppressive Monarchy, you are all treated like children and act that as well.
Well I agree re the monarchy 👍🏻