While you did mention the brutal insurance rates here in Ontario I would suggest to anyone thinking of getting a bike in Ontario DO NOT buy a bike until after you have gotten multiple insurance quotes. There's usually one guy every year posting on the local bike forum that buys the bike first then get's sticker shock when he get's insurance quotes.
Thanks for creating content about riding in Ontario. I live in Toronto and am going to start riding next year for commuting and touring purposes. Your videos are very informative and helpful as there are not a lot of videos about riding in Ontario, the laws, or riding in cities in general.
I hope you don't live in Toronto, downtown Toronto! 🙂Traffic in Toronto is just horrible. In summer heat, you'd be forced to do lane filtering! Happy riding!
Hey man I'm 22 and about to finish college, been looking into getting a bike as a lil graduation gift for myself. I was a bit worried about the licensing process in Ontario but this video just simplified it all for me. This was a great video, we want more motorcycle content, especially with the spring just around the corner!
Useful information. I will go to Canada the next month and I have been thinking about the motorcycle license on Canada, now I have an idea. Thanks a lot. I will go to Hamilton btw!
Thanks, it was a very useful video, it will be great if you speak anything about the specific cost of the insurance and anything about motorcycles and winter.
Thanks man! Insurance is hard to talk about because it’s such a big difference in price for everyone. Insurance rate depends on your driving history, any tickets you have, how long you’ve had a license, your age, the area you live in (can be double the price in some areas like Brampton), and the size of engine you have on your machine, and a few other things as well. So very hard to say what insurance will be. Mine is $80 but I have friends that pay $300-$400 per month. Winter is too cold to ride, your tires don’t grip the road and slide a lot and when snow falls it’s nearly impossible to ride. We store our motorcycles in Canada and don’t ride them from November till about April.
Get your m1. Go take a motorcycle safety course and pass the test (dont have to wait the 60 days to take it this way but still have to wait the 60 days to upgrade to the m2) then get insurance once you can upgrade to the m2 This is what I am planning on doing this summer. I'll have my m2 and be able to get slightly cheaper insure. I'll have the safety course, I'll be 25, and I'll have the m2 so my insurance should he decent and not crippling
I’m also in Ontario I recently got my first bike and yea insurance can be brutal in Ontario considering I’m a younger rider but I was able to get a good rate shop around different companies will give different rates 👍
Thanks for the info, unfortunately I had no idea I have to wait 60 days for my m2 even If I take the msf course, I got my m1 last week and I'm gonna do msf in 25 days :(
Moving to Canadá Ontário soon. Im from Portugal. Have my license gere but Will have to do all over again... But Nice videos. Followed and gonna keep coming here!!!
Hello Smokin Monkey, These are really useful info. I would like to request a separate video for motorcycle insurance as many don’t have any idea how the motorcycle insurance works and how to negotiate on what parameters. Thank you.
Thanks! To be honest I can make a video but it won’t be very helpful because you can’t negotiate the price with insurance companies in Canada. You only get a lower price the longer you have your licence, the older you are, the classification of you licence (m1, m2, m), and if you have any tickets or accidents. I think we have the highest price insurance in the world in Canada so it’s a pain in the ass.
great video!, i do however have a question. what are the best (affordable companies that will insure motorcycles the reason for this my current company doesn't insure bikes) any kinda info would help
Informative video. I’m at 40’s with just m1, hard to find multiple insurance in Ontario that willing to insure m1 , but found one with $165. Nice to have the course for additional safety, but all courses are full during all summer within 300km around me. Not sure if I accept the quote and go ahead and buy a bike and book for m2 test ?
Well, of course you have to think about it. Would anybody insure a driver in a car with a G1? it’s the exact same thing lol. As for taking the course, I would definitely wait to take the course; if you go to take the test by yourself they’re gonna tell you ‘ride from here to there’s and they don’t tell you that they’re looking for you to shift from first gear to second gear back to neutral and then put your foot down and stop safely. They just tell you ‘ride from here to there’. So you can end up taking the test with the ministry and failing for stupid reasons and having to do it all over again.
Man when you started talking a little about insurance, it felt like I had been kicked in the guts. I'm soon to be 52 and never got a driver's license ( never really had the cash for a car ) and not knowing if I would like or be able to handle a motorcycle I decided to get what you see as my profile pic, it's an Ebike lol ( based on the Ninja 300, and yes I'm 52 and still a BIG Resident Evil fan so got some decals of the Umbrella Corporation and went a bit nutz lol ). but since it does not require a license or insurance to operate over here, I thought it would be a good way to start, just after a few weeks I regretted so much buying this crap and not going for a real one ( I say crap because of low travel range and high price for what it is ) but now if I save for a couple of years I might be able to get a real bike, but I'm not sure I would be able to afford the insurance ( I did a few quick checks and it looks like I could be in the $3k+/year and that is way out of my budget ) considering our winters ( I'm in Ottawa ) it's stupid crazy the $$$ they want for a vehicle that ends-up parked for almost 1/2 the year. Great vid and super informative, and to help a fellow Canadian = +1 Sub. Thanks and ride safe!
Try getting quotes on different bikes. I was quoted 5k a year for a CBR60RR and 1800 a year for my SV650 I currently ride lol it’s nuts how much of a difference there is. Every year you have a bike insured and have a license the rates lower. I think I pay $83 a month now on the SV after owning it for 4 years. Crazy but that’s why I don’t have a super sport like a ninja600, R6, gsxr600 or CBR600RR but bikes like the ninja650, cbr650f and gsxr650f are all less than half of their super sport counterparts.
I'm 19, I will be buying a bike soon. I don't have my M1 or M2 it's October so I will be stashing the bike away in a garage I'm just wondering if I can register the bike I'm buying very soon under my name then do my M1 in spring and M2. Is that possible or okay ?
@@SmokinMonkeyOG I've done lots of research apparently it's allowed but it's just transferring ownership to my name. The bike won't be given any plates. I read this on a reddit form.
@SmokinMonkeyOG thank you for the reply, I recall you saying similar in the video but from what I can tell the M2 isn't gotten through my local course - I would do the course and then have some period of time not operating a motorcycle then have to do the test. Do you not need insurance to do the course?
@peanutbutter7721 the courses for people with an M1 that want to get an M2 you do the two day course and at the end of it they give you a package that you take to the ministry and they upgrade you to an M2 if you pass the test at the end of the course. I think you have to wait 30 days from getting your M1 till you can hand in the package to get your M2 but that’s the only waiting in Ontario
Thanks for ur information, I like to ride a motorcycle, don't have any experience never ride before, is there any way to learn how to drive and familiar with in private till get a little more ability of dŕiving, and later on going for step by step officially licensed . Thanks, Asad
I don’t have any experience with that or know anyone that does but I’m sure you will spend a lot less on fuel and possibly insurance so you will make a bit more in your pocket but during winter or bad weather it will be hard lol
So You don't advise getting your own bike after your M1?, coz I was thinking I get a bike, do the M1 test, then ride it till I get my M2. (also I have 2 years of experience when I was driving in Dubai)
@omarahmed416 I would call insurance before you get the bike and see how much they want for different bikes and you’ll get a better idea on what exactly they want and how much the difference is between different bikes.
I did mine almost 10 years ago so it cost me around $400-500 can’t remember exactly but I’m sure it has gone up since I took it. I went with a company called RTI which helps with getting your license and teaches you the basics of riding a motorcycle in Canada.
Pretty sure you would have to be on private property with your own bike or someone you know with their bike. But no place will rent a bike for day use or anything without a license as far as I know. Even race tracks you need a license I believe.
Call around get quotes and see what you can afford. I would get quotes on different bikes before you buy one to know what you can afford. I would recommend doing your m2 before getting a bike because insurance will be very expensive
@adam743r no clue it’s different for everybody depending on how long you’ve been riding the level of license you have the size of bike you have all kinds of different things come in to play
While you did mention the brutal insurance rates here in Ontario I would suggest to anyone thinking of getting a bike in Ontario DO NOT buy a bike until after you have gotten multiple insurance quotes. There's usually one guy every year posting on the local bike forum that buys the bike first then get's sticker shock when he get's insurance quotes.
This is a very good idea! I did this as well which is why I have the SV and not a GSXR lol. Very solid advice
Thanks for creating content about riding in Ontario. I live in Toronto and am going to start riding next year for commuting and touring purposes. Your videos are very informative and helpful as there are not a lot of videos about riding in Ontario, the laws, or riding in cities in general.
Glad I could help
I hope you don't live in Toronto, downtown Toronto! 🙂Traffic in Toronto is just horrible. In summer heat, you'd be forced to do lane filtering! Happy riding!
Hey man I'm 22 and about to finish college, been looking into getting a bike as a lil graduation gift for myself. I was a bit worried about the licensing process in Ontario but this video just simplified it all for me. This was a great video, we want more motorcycle content, especially with the spring just around the corner!
Im 24 and going to start riding this summer so thanks for the steps on how.
I remmeber watching this video before I even had my m1, now Im on my 2nd season of riding. what a journey
Ya time really flies
Useful information. I will go to Canada the next month and I have been thinking about the motorcycle license on Canada, now I have an idea. Thanks a lot. I will go to Hamilton btw!
Not far from where I live! Hope you have a good stay here
bro this is the most informative video on internet. you killed it bro 👍
Thanks bro
Thanks, it was a very useful video, it will be great if you speak anything about the specific cost of the insurance and anything about motorcycles and winter.
Thanks man! Insurance is hard to talk about because it’s such a big difference in price for everyone. Insurance rate depends on your driving history, any tickets you have, how long you’ve had a license, your age, the area you live in (can be double the price in some areas like Brampton), and the size of engine you have on your machine, and a few other things as well. So very hard to say what insurance will be. Mine is $80 but I have friends that pay $300-$400 per month.
Winter is too cold to ride, your tires don’t grip the road and slide a lot and when snow falls it’s nearly impossible to ride. We store our motorcycles in Canada and don’t ride them from November till about April.
Nice to see an instructional video in the streets of Sauga!! Good job dude
Thanks bro
Best explanation in RUclips...Others are just buying watch time
Thanks!!
Get your m1. Go take a motorcycle safety course and pass the test (dont have to wait the 60 days to take it this way but still have to wait the 60 days to upgrade to the m2) then get insurance once you can upgrade to the m2
This is what I am planning on doing this summer. I'll have my m2 and be able to get slightly cheaper insure. I'll have the safety course, I'll be 25, and I'll have the m2 so my insurance should he decent and not crippling
I’m also in Ontario I recently got my first bike and yea insurance can be brutal in Ontario considering I’m a younger rider but I was able to get a good rate shop around different companies will give different rates 👍
Thank you very much for your time doing this useful video
Thanks for the info, unfortunately I had no idea I have to wait 60 days for my m2 even If I take the msf course, I got my m1 last week and I'm gonna do msf in 25 days :(
Moving to Canadá Ontário soon. Im from Portugal. Have my license gere but Will have to do all over again... But Nice videos. Followed and gonna keep coming here!!!
This video was extremely informative thank you Brotha. 🤘🏼🍻
So it two courses? One after M1 and another safety course after M2?
Super helpful 👍👍 Thank you
Hello Smokin Monkey, These are really useful info. I would like to request a separate video for motorcycle insurance as many don’t have any idea how the motorcycle insurance works and how to negotiate on what parameters. Thank you.
Thanks! To be honest I can make a video but it won’t be very helpful because you can’t negotiate the price with insurance companies in Canada. You only get a lower price the longer you have your licence, the older you are, the classification of you licence (m1, m2, m), and if you have any tickets or accidents. I think we have the highest price insurance in the world in Canada so it’s a pain in the ass.
great video!, i do however have a question. what are the best (affordable companies that will insure motorcycles the reason for this my current company doesn't insure bikes) any kinda info would help
Try riders choice
Thanks.. This video was helpful 👍
Dude, if you paint that white number plate / wind cowl thingy on the front of your bike, BLACK...oh man your bike is gonna look SICK !!!
I love the white lol I wouldn’t want to have a black one. Then it just looks too similar to stock
If you’d be down, I and I’m sure others would love more content on this, just turned 16 and am thinkin about hitting a motorbike
Thank you bro
That’s McLaughlin road 😮.
Yup lol
Informative video. I’m at 40’s with just m1, hard to find multiple insurance in Ontario that willing to insure m1 , but found one with $165. Nice to have the course for additional safety, but all courses are full during all summer within 300km around me. Not sure if I accept the quote and go ahead and buy a bike and book for m2 test ?
Well, of course you have to think about it. Would anybody insure a driver in a car with a G1? it’s the exact same thing lol. As for taking the course, I would definitely wait to take the course; if you go to take the test by yourself they’re gonna tell you ‘ride from here to there’s and they don’t tell you that they’re looking for you to shift from first gear to second gear back to neutral and then put your foot down and stop safely. They just tell you ‘ride from here to there’. So you can end up taking the test with the ministry and failing for stupid reasons and having to do it all over again.
What's the company called, as I've been shopping around.
Ontario regulations are always stricter than any other province so it will be easier for any other province.
thanks sr
Surron or Stealth Bomber it is!
What if I want to ride motor scooter (vespa or yamaha bws)? Can we use those bikes for tests?
Would it be different if I’m a teenager
When I do the course to get my M2 what do I need to bring with me?
Usually you need everything but a motorcycle. Helmet, gloves, riding boots, riding jacket etc
Man when you started talking a little about insurance, it felt like I had been kicked in the guts.
I'm soon to be 52 and never got a driver's license ( never really had the cash for a car ) and not knowing if I would like or be able to handle a motorcycle I decided to get what you see as my profile pic, it's an Ebike lol ( based on the Ninja 300, and yes I'm 52 and still a BIG Resident Evil fan so got some decals of the Umbrella Corporation and went a bit nutz lol ). but since it does not require a license or insurance to operate over here, I thought it would be a good way to start, just after a few weeks I regretted so much buying this crap and not going for a real one ( I say crap because of low travel range and high price for what it is ) but now if I save for a couple of years I might be able to get a real bike, but I'm not sure I would be able to afford the insurance ( I did a few quick checks and it looks like I could be in the $3k+/year and that is way out of my budget ) considering our winters ( I'm in Ottawa ) it's stupid crazy the $$$ they want for a vehicle that ends-up parked for almost 1/2 the year.
Great vid and super informative, and to help a fellow Canadian = +1 Sub.
Thanks and ride safe!
Try getting quotes on different bikes. I was quoted 5k a year for a CBR60RR and 1800 a year for my SV650 I currently ride lol it’s nuts how much of a difference there is. Every year you have a bike insured and have a license the rates lower. I think I pay $83 a month now on the SV after owning it for 4 years. Crazy but that’s why I don’t have a super sport like a ninja600, R6, gsxr600 or CBR600RR but bikes like the ninja650, cbr650f and gsxr650f are all less than half of their super sport counterparts.
Great stuff 👍
I'm 19, I will be buying a bike soon. I don't have my M1 or M2 it's October so I will be stashing the bike away in a garage I'm just wondering if I can register the bike I'm buying very soon under my name then do my M1 in spring and M2. Is that possible or okay ?
I don’t think you’ll be able to register it, but I could be wrong. I’m pretty sure you need an M1 for them to sell it to you and transfer the title.
@@SmokinMonkeyOG I've done lots of research apparently it's allowed but it's just transferring ownership to my name. The bike won't be given any plates. I read this on a reddit form.
Which riding school did you go?thanks
I used RTI
v helpful
I don't really understand how you're supposed to practice for an M2 if you don't have a bike (and can't get insurance)
You take the course and do your m2 through them then get a bike
@SmokinMonkeyOG thank you for the reply, I recall you saying similar in the video but from what I can tell the M2 isn't gotten through my local course - I would do the course and then have some period of time not operating a motorcycle then have to do the test.
Do you not need insurance to do the course?
@peanutbutter7721 the courses for people with an M1 that want to get an M2 you do the two day course and at the end of it they give you a package that you take to the ministry and they upgrade you to an M2 if you pass the test at the end of the course. I think you have to wait 30 days from getting your M1 till you can hand in the package to get your M2 but that’s the only waiting in Ontario
@@SmokinMonkeyOG OK I'll look into that some more. Thank you again
Thanks for ur information, I like to ride a motorcycle, don't have any experience never ride before, is there any way to learn how to drive and familiar with in private till get a little more ability of dŕiving, and later on going for step by step officially licensed .
Thanks,
Asad
Yes look up motorcycle training course and you’ll be able to learn on a motorcycle before you have a licence and they will help you pass your test
Will i need insurance if i do the course fro M1 to M2 before i buy a bike?
The course provides a bike for you and you don’t need your own insurance to take the course
Do you think it is worth delivering food with a motorcycle in Toronto ?
I don’t have any experience with that or know anyone that does but I’m sure you will spend a lot less on fuel and possibly insurance so you will make a bit more in your pocket but during winter or bad weather it will be hard lol
@@SmokinMonkeyOG love ur videos :)
Thanks!!
@@moneprize could u share your experience or knowledge regarding making deliveries on bike ?
So You don't advise getting your own bike after your M1?, coz I was thinking I get a bike, do the M1 test, then ride it till I get my M2. (also I have 2 years of experience when I was driving in Dubai)
If you can even find a company to insure you with an m1 it will probably cost more than you paid for your bike. That’s the reason why
@@SmokinMonkeyOG yikessss, so like over 10k , coz I’ll probably get a used one
@@SmokinMonkeyOG so you recommend getting M1 waiting till I get my M2 and then getting a bike?
@omarahmed416 I would call insurance before you get the bike and see how much they want for different bikes and you’ll get a better idea on what exactly they want and how much the difference is between different bikes.
@@SmokinMonkeyOG aight, thank you so much
can you share where you got the safety course from and how much did it cost you?
I did mine almost 10 years ago so it cost me around $400-500 can’t remember exactly but I’m sure it has gone up since I took it. I went with a company called RTI which helps with getting your license and teaches you the basics of riding a motorcycle in Canada.
@@SmokinMonkeyOG okayy, thank you for the timely response
Can someone tell me what to expect on the written M1 test? I know its a multiple choice, but how do i prepare? Thanks.
Type in M1 practice test online into google and you can do the test yourself before you go
Ya the m1 is basically a G1 with 20 motorcycle related questions stapled to it lol
Hello, Is there a place in Ontario where I can go ride my motorcycle without having to have insurance or a license?
Pretty sure you would have to be on private property with your own bike or someone you know with their bike. But no place will rent a bike for day use or anything without a license as far as I know. Even race tracks you need a license I believe.
Hi!, can you recommend where to get a course? Thanks
Riders training institute is where I did mine
Do we need to have a valid car license before grtting a M1? And whats the minimum age i can get M1 license?
No you don’t you actually get a G1 when you do your M1 or at least you did when I did my license. But you still need to be 16
@@SmokinMonkeyOG Thanks!!!!
So at what point do you recommend rider get the insurance?
Call around get quotes and see what you can afford. I would get quotes on different bikes before you buy one to know what you can afford. I would recommend doing your m2 before getting a bike because insurance will be very expensive
Can an International student get a M class licence in Ontario? I'm planning to get a motorcycle after i go there for study.. Im 22 years old
Yes as far as I know you can. Check online just in case
How much are you paying for insurqnce
Was paying $80 but sold the bike
Hey bro, what course did you do specifically?
M2 course at RTI
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Québec insurance isn't that bad. it's cheap!
Ya but then you gotta live in Quebec… would rather not ride a bike at all lmao
@@SmokinMonkeyOGlol I love Quebec. But I speak french so. Idk lol
Haha I’m just joking around
@@SmokinMonkeyOGeverytime I go through Quebec to newfoundland it blows my mind how many morons are on the road there lmao
Im 18 and i wanna buy a yamaha r6 😅
Good luck on insurance bro
@@SmokinMonkeyOG how much would it cost? (Im in winnipeg manitoba)
@adam743r no clue it’s different for everybody depending on how long you’ve been riding the level of license you have the size of bike you have all kinds of different things come in to play
hey yall interested imma create a page for us amateurs,
step 1 stop watching this video and start looking at the practice questionnaire on the ontario website. 🤣
This is the best advice you’ll get lol do the practice test online!!
Great video
Thanks
M license stages are dumb. No difference between an M2 and Full M.