215. Stalingrad and the Red Army
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Tom and Dominic are again joined by Iain MacGregor to discuss the climax of the Battle of Stalingrad, Pavlov's House, and the Red Army's counter offensive that ultimately defeated the Axis forces.
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Dan sent me. He spoke very highly of y'all. I'm looking forward to it.
Lol Dan sent me as well
Same 🤗
Shockingly, me too!! 🤣
Yo.
Same here
There's a fantastic Stalingrad map on the game 'Hell Let Loose'. Spent many hours frantically defending Pavlov's House.
Dan sent me as well. I love a good history podcast. I have subscribed and working my way through. Great podcasts.
Dan also sent me. Great show guys! New listener for life
I can't forget the tale of one German soldier: "We were freezing and lice ridden. Every time you moved to a fire to warm up a bit the lice would get frisky. So it was a choice between freezing or unbearable itching."
The history of Rodimstevs 13th guard is so interesting. Going all the way from Barbarossa, to the 2nd battle of kharkov, Case Blue and Stalingrad it’s a helluva journey
Paulus was physically breaking down way before he ever got into that department store. He was a staff general not a battlefield General and Stalingrad had been difficult from the very beginning. It definitely took its toll on the future Field Marshal.
Hearing Dom mention that level on COD is just 👌🏻
Great Pod!
If the 6th Army had left its Panzer Corp outside on the steep it’s possible that one of the encircling pincers could have been fended off
"Canary in the gas chamber. ??? I've heard of a canary in a coal mine but never in a gas chamber. That might be a bit of a mixed metaphor.😊
Paulius was such a fool. He planned Barbarossa and so he knew failure was likely when the army stalled in front of Moscow and Leningrad with no winter warfare preparations.
He had also been Staff Quarter-Master General for the entire German army so he could also intuit that there was very little chance that the Luftwaffe could ever provide the required mass of materiel.
He should have just done what Model did at Orel in the summer of 1943 ...withdraw first to save his army and ask permission later if anybody complained about it. Model’s impertinence got him relieved of command, so he took three months leave to spend with his Mrs.
Maybe he was questioning in his mind whether it was his command or his life that was going to be relieved.
man,....
"Operation Uranus" sounds sooooo much cooler in german 👀🙃🙃
I don't think he means literally parachuted in 😔
Hey my take on Hitler as a military strategist is that he was always fighting the first world war with his no surrender of territory orders, he never got mobile warfare 🥺
My comment comes late. My Father in law is Russian. Stalin is a still thought of as a GREAT man. All the evidence of his prewar mass purges is Western propaganda. His own Uncle, a Russian air force officer was killed in the pre WW2 purge. Yet, it must have been his own fault that Stalin had him murdered. Films of the Great Patriotic war are still being made and are very popular. And the Western allies only joined the war after the Russians had won it. Who says propaganda doesn't work?
Dan Carlin sent me here
Operation Uranus was a very stinky time for both the Soviets and Germans.
Here from Dan
How strong do you think the English or the British would have contested the imaginary town of Churchillton? Then imagine The Americans defending Rooseveltville. These towns don't exist but I imagine the fighting would have been pretty fierce if the Allies had to defend these centers against the Nazis.😊
Canary in the coal mine???
The information is good but we must not forget the germans killed millions of people in the USSR and they were carrying out a criminal way against the people. So sometimes i do not understand you why you think "the russians were cynical".
The germans should never have gone there.
Stalins Banner/Rissian Guardian 🤣
I love your podcast and I have always been fascinated by Stalingrad. I do have one little comment to make however re: Nazis with Christmas trees, and it is this: Yes, the Germans were "people too", but they were people who had decided to embrace fascism, which is an inherently murderous ideology, who had then willfully invaded another country to slaughter millions of their citizens. I have zero pity for the Nazis who were surrounded and/or killed at Stalingrad, because they NEVER should have been there in the first place.
I feel especially passionate about this right now because I am an American watching my country being taken over by craven right-wing racist extremists against my will, and I am already sick to the back teeth of their hypocrisy, their violence, and the bizarre self-pity that they constantly trot out as a pretext for attacking the social groups they wish to persecute. I fear that my own country will soon be in a civil war of pro-democracy forces holding out against pro-fascist forces, and I can't help deriving a bit of grim satisfaction whenever I hear historical tales of Nazis getting what they deserve. When you embrace evil, you lose the right to be pitied; Christmas trees be damned.
Germans flee at the sight of Uranus....
...Dan :]
No SS at Stalingrad.