Sony FE 85mm f1.4 GM Mark II lens review

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @yukonchris
    @yukonchris 4 месяца назад +4

    Excellent review as usual, Chris. Also, a very interesting lens. It's almost enough to suck me into the Sony world. Cheers.

  • @Romanbala
    @Romanbala 4 месяца назад +12

    Perfect 85 1.4, totally worth the money

    • @opalyankaBG
      @opalyankaBG 4 месяца назад +1

      Kudos to Sony for improving the lens while managing to make it smaller. But at $2k this lens will be out of reach for most shooters.

    • @RRH995
      @RRH995 4 месяца назад

      @@opalyankaBG I just brought the 85mm Viltrox 1.8, fantastic lens for £260... don't understand spending 10x as much more an extra .4

    • @johnadams3038
      @johnadams3038 11 дней назад

      @@RRH995 Just say youre poor

  • @Eikenhorst
    @Eikenhorst 4 месяца назад +3

    Whow, this one is amazing! Last time I saw test charts this perfect in a review by Chris is when he tested the 58 F/0.95 Noct from Nikon. Seriously impressive.

    • @TW-iu9zy
      @TW-iu9zy 4 месяца назад

      … yes, it is impressive.

    • @joaopaulo24816
      @joaopaulo24816 3 месяца назад

      135mm samwang f1.8 af

  • @dedelabinouze5110
    @dedelabinouze5110 4 месяца назад

    I just KNEW Christopher would deliver.
    Thanks for the good work mate

  • @Adventure_Together
    @Adventure_Together 4 месяца назад

    Another fantastic and thorough review. Great work, Chris!

  • @mouse3355
    @mouse3355 4 месяца назад +3

    One fine portrait monster!👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @NAG3V
    @NAG3V 4 месяца назад +14

    Nice and compact for 85 1.4. Welcome to mad times where shooting fast sports with portrait lens is completely viable.

    • @Username.RandomNumbers
      @Username.RandomNumbers 4 месяца назад +3

      I use a Sony 135 1.8 GM for sport. It's crazy good, when you can get close enough.

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould 4 месяца назад

      I know it’s a great thing right. I’ve always used them because it gives a nice separation and when you know distance it’s easier to say okay I can get this shot during sporting events. If you are shooting sports, and want to use a prime like an 85mm during, I’ve always said to leave it on your second body. Sports photographers primarily leave the 70-200 on their second body and a zoom telephoto (or just a telephoto 300+mm on their first body) but if you have a zooming telephoto lens (like a 100-300 canon, or any 3rd party zooming lenses) you can leave a prime lens on your second body, you just have to be aware of where your placed and the distance to your subject and how quickly you can reach and shoot.

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Username.RandomNumbers yup! It’s really cool to use them at sporting events especially when you get that separation.

    • @pentagramyt417
      @pentagramyt417 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TigaWould I'd rather want 200 mm f2.0 from Sony, instead of 135 f1.8 or 200 f2.8.
      Sad, there is almost no company who think about such lenses..

  • @kyleboselli3196
    @kyleboselli3196 2 месяца назад +1

    I have the sigma 85 1,4 and thinking of getting this instead for videos. It seems sharper and has less distortion and vignettes

  • @jukeboxjohnnie
    @jukeboxjohnnie 4 месяца назад +3

    Been waiting for this.. colours look a bit muted Ill assume that may not be the lens. I wonder what you would have found at 61mp. Top of my wants list then

  • @OkwyUgonweze
    @OkwyUgonweze 4 месяца назад +85

    The real winner here is the sigma 85mm 1.4 .

    • @chrisshawcross7033
      @chrisshawcross7033 4 месяца назад +10

      Buy the sigma then........

    • @jpblahblah
      @jpblahblah 4 месяца назад +46

      ​@@chrisshawcross7033 least passive agressive sony fanboy

    • @DjimmyTrovy
      @DjimmyTrovy 4 месяца назад +5

      cope

    • @mariobnc1995
      @mariobnc1995 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes

    • @jeroenvdw
      @jeroenvdw 4 месяца назад +5

      Definitely if AF speed isn't very important to you

  • @azyzmakhavi1139
    @azyzmakhavi1139 3 месяца назад

    Well, and what about its transmission (T-stop) as compared with the Original GM?

  • @stefan_becker
    @stefan_becker 4 месяца назад +1

    Weren't the peripheral bokeh circles a bit rounder on the old GM lens? As I recall, this used to be a big advantage of the old GM lens. I also don't need that superfast autofocus for portraits and will therefore keep my Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN for half the price.

    • @hoatd1993
      @hoatd1993 4 месяца назад

      Now the bokeh shape of version II and sigma are similar, very funny.

    • @stefan_becker
      @stefan_becker 4 месяца назад

      @@hoatd1993 Yes, the Sigma isn't that round either. But it's still half the price of the GMII😅 If I would do more sports and action, I'd probably want one.

  • @adebrian1737
    @adebrian1737 4 месяца назад +2

    What Sony is not admitting is that the 44mm lens diameter mount has severe limitations that is why it took them a very long time to knock out a 50mm F1.2 while Nikon and canon have an 85mm and 50mm f1.2.
    Nikon and canon can easily knock out a 35mm f1.2.
    Focus breathing compensation also compensates for the bad lens limitations.

  • @saputramanoppo1363
    @saputramanoppo1363 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic lens from Sony..!!!

  • @cameraprepper7938
    @cameraprepper7938 3 месяца назад

    Well, from other reviews/test I have read/seen, the new 85mm 1.4 GM II are much sharper (much higher resolution) than the old version !

  • @shichaosun3298
    @shichaosun3298 3 месяца назад

    wonder how this lens compare with sigma 85mm 1.4 dg dn

  • @panmaew
    @panmaew 4 месяца назад

    85-135mm lenses for full frame image circle normally are the easiest range to correct most of the optical aberrations compared to wider or longer focal length lenses. Though this level of achievement would be practically imposssible to get for a let's say 50mm lens this new Sony lens is still among, if not the best, at this focal length.

  • @kifley19
    @kifley19 Месяц назад

    Should have made 67mm filter size to be the same as 1.4 gm primes.

  • @stuartmartin093
    @stuartmartin093 4 месяца назад +4

    I believe you’d see a bigger difference in sharpness if you compared the original GM and this GM ii on a 61mpx sensor instead. Might be time to suggest such a thing to Sony 😉 edit: for anyone confused I’m saying he should ask Sony to hook him up with one of the 61mpx cameras for these tests.

    • @ajgonzalez5109
      @ajgonzalez5109 4 месяца назад +1

      Are you not aware of the 61mp Sony cameras and sensors? There are more than a few.

    • @stuartmartin093
      @stuartmartin093 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ajgonzalez5109 yes given I shoot primarily on an a7Rv… Are you not understanding what I’m saying? I’m saying Chris’ tests would show more of a difference between the original GM and GMii if he shot on a higher mpx camera and he should suggest to Sony having one sent to him…

    • @ajgonzalez5109
      @ajgonzalez5109 4 месяца назад

      @@stuartmartin093 Oooh I see now. My bad, I understood something different.

  • @lookid
    @lookid 4 месяца назад

    Well, this is all fine, but 1-st version is out more than 7 years ago where is comparing with old version tho?

  • @mrmeowpuss
    @mrmeowpuss 4 месяца назад +4

    The AUD pricing ($2999) is way too high to justify it over the Sigma 85mm Art ($1100 AUD on Sale).

    • @kenn6592
      @kenn6592 4 месяца назад

      I am feeling the same! Wow it's expensive. Any thoughts from sigma 85 owners out there?

    • @Tzadeck
      @Tzadeck 3 месяца назад

      @@kenn6592 I have the Sigma 85mm 1.4, and optically it's nearly perfect. No reason to pay more for anything, imho. The only drawback of the Sigma is that it does have a fair bit of distortion, so you need to shoot slightly wide so you have room to correct it in post.

  • @haydar9004
    @haydar9004 4 месяца назад +29

    Sigma should one-up gm line by releasing 85mm 1.2 e mount😅

    • @JayJayYUP
      @JayJayYUP 4 месяца назад +8

      Viltrox might be doing so (as Sigma doesn't seem keen either). What Sigma should be doing is porting that DSLR era 105 f1.4

    • @airjaff
      @airjaff 4 месяца назад +3

      It's not possible on the puny e mount

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 4 месяца назад +15

      @@airjaff That has to be one of the oldest disinformation campaigns on the entire internet.

    • @Sundara229
      @Sundara229 4 месяца назад

      @@airjaff People on the internet did the math. In theory, e-mount supports up to something like f0.55. In practice, you wouldn't want to use such a lens anyways.

    • @quagmire321able
      @quagmire321able 4 месяца назад +3

      Maybe they (Sigma) will make a 85 1.2 at the same size, weight and price of this GM in 2yrs.
      Won't change a thing for Sony fanboys though, they have the camera system with the best 3rd party lens support but will *only* ever buy GM lenses 🤓

  • @tai_you
    @tai_you 4 месяца назад +1

    The flaring performance is really impressive but there's that price point....

  • @alexmirza5210
    @alexmirza5210 4 месяца назад

    Oh. Bucket list lens for astro.

    • @nvertd0966
      @nvertd0966 4 месяца назад

      Wouldnt you want a either a super long focal length lens (600mm for example or more preferably a telescope), or a super wide lens for a full sky shot?

    • @alexmirza5210
      @alexmirza5210 4 месяца назад

      Yes I have an old 600mm f4 manual lens actually and a tokina 20mm f2 (also manual focus), however I like snapping constellations and the Hyades. Also certain areas of the Milky Way. 85mm lenses can also be both the best corrected as well as the fastest simultaneously.

  • @TroupeGoal
    @TroupeGoal 3 месяца назад

    But is it four times better than the 85mm 1.8?

  • @chicojuanito2
    @chicojuanito2 4 месяца назад +1

    oh when did this come out?

    • @FilledCircle
      @FilledCircle 4 месяца назад +1

      Pretty sure it came out today

  • @paulamariemedinilla
    @paulamariemedinilla 4 месяца назад

    I'll keep my 85mm f1.8 on my A7M4. Would have considered it if it was an f1.2 instead to justify the weight.

  • @jeroenvdw
    @jeroenvdw 4 месяца назад +4

    Pretty sure the sharpness is way better than the mk1 if you use an A1 or A7RV/A7CR. Latest lenses seems to have perfect sharpness even on 50+ MP sensors. I was keen on buying this lens, but after hearing the price I probably won't. Just wait for a sale in a few months I guess

    • @JetBen555
      @JetBen555 4 месяца назад +1

      No

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould 4 месяца назад

      Honestly, the body shouldn’t matter as much when comparing sharpness for lenses. If that’s the case, it’s due to in body corrections (which is an issue because it’s not determining the lenses real capabilities). I think this lens is great for Sony shooters. The first model had some obvious issues optically that they corrected. So the optical performance is a lot better and Sony doesn’t need to rely as heavily on in body corrections (or post corrections) for this lens as it did with the mark 1 version. For primes, corrections should be minimal especially on the mirrorless systems.

  • @Tzadeck
    @Tzadeck 3 месяца назад

    Compare to the Sigma 85mm 1.4, though.

  • @libertyvilleguy2903
    @libertyvilleguy2903 2 месяца назад

    I shoot volleyball; the faster auto-focus is a big deal.

  • @kifley19
    @kifley19 4 месяца назад +4

    This is lens is perfect. I have the RF 85mm 1.2 and that lens is too heavy. I might go back to Sony just to use the 35mm 1.4 GM, 50mm 1.4 GM, and 85mm 1.4 GM. Only thing sucks is that it doesnt have a 67m filter size like the other 1.4 gm primes. Come on Sony.

    • @alphaandomega2709
      @alphaandomega2709 4 месяца назад +2

      The 50mm f1.4 GM is made in Japan. My second fav lens.

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould 4 месяца назад

      I agree with you about Canons 85mm RF f/1.2 lens being too heavy for longer shoots. But they should be releasing an RF 85mm f/1.4 soon with IS and video features (most of their 1.4 lineup is going to have video features built in). Plus sigma and Tamron are going to start releasing 3rd party lenses and who knows Samyang might get back into it as well and their 85mm f/1.4 was actually pretty good.
      All I’m saying is do what you want, but just know it’s all going to happen across the board for all 3 major manufacturers (canon, Nikon and Sony), it’s just taking time.

  • @linsnowx
    @linsnowx 4 месяца назад +1

    Already have the Sigma so I don’t have much motivation to get this one

    • @Tzadeck
      @Tzadeck 3 месяца назад

      Exactly. The Sigma is so good, there's no real motivation to pay more for something that may be very marginally better.

  • @quagmire321able
    @quagmire321able 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice video as usual but the best 85mm ever made? Hmm... Are you sure? Lol 😜

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould 4 месяца назад

      Nope! Not even close honestly. And I’m surprised he said it. The best two 85mm lenses on the market are the Canon 85mm F/1.2 and the Nikon 85mm F/1.2. But I think he was said the Sony was the best 85mm f/1.4, which I’m not sure that’s accurate either because I’ve heard great things about the sigma version (but I haven’t used either the Sony or sigma so I wouldn’t know).

    • @quagmire321able
      @quagmire321able 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TigaWould I have the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG DN, it's actually a good lens, probably the best amongst my Sigma Art lenses. Focuses quick enough for me to shoot poorly-lit indoors Wushu with too... hehe... pity it's a 85mm, I don't use it much.

    • @TigaWould
      @TigaWould 4 месяца назад +1

      @@quagmire321ableI’m not arguing that the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 isn’t a great lens. I’m saying the Canon and Nikon 85mm f/1.2 lenses are the best 85mm lenses on the market and it’s not even close. It’s 1a and 1B for those 2 lenses (you can argue which one is better but it doesn’t matter), then everything else is in a distance second place. Once again not saying sigma is bad (I’m no where near saying that), but what I do want people to understand is those 2 lenses are really just that far beyond good and easily 2 of the best overall lenses on the market no matter what focal length you’re talking about.

    • @quagmire321able
      @quagmire321able 4 месяца назад

      @@TigaWould probably true about the Canon RF 85 1.2 and Nikon Z 85 1.2. The RF 85 1.2 was my favorite lens back when I was using Canon but I was afraid of dropping it when I changed lenses and being a prime lens guy, I change lenses very, very often 😛

  • @unknownaf2.114
    @unknownaf2.114 4 месяца назад

    why is everyone mad at sony 😭😭😭

  • @deltaboy2011
    @deltaboy2011 4 месяца назад +3

    Should be 85 with 1.2 aperture.

  • @through_the_lens_art
    @through_the_lens_art 4 месяца назад +3

    Really for that price we should get a product with perfect bokeh balls, no vignetting. Sony are really pushing it with the current pricing for lenses. Look at Nikon 35mm 1.4 for 650 GBP for example..

    • @alphaandomega2709
      @alphaandomega2709 4 месяца назад

      Don’t compare Nikons China made quality to Sonys Japan made lenses. Nikon is far behind. If you were to own a G Master lens the IQ is superior.

  • @BrandonColePhotography
    @BrandonColePhotography 4 месяца назад +9

    I dont know what Sony is thinking. This should have been a 1.2 hands down. The 85mm 1.2 is an untapped market for Sony because NOBODY makes a 1.2 for Sony E mount. Not sigma , tamron nobody. This was a complete overlook and trying to compare the sales of the 50mm to estimate what the 85 will do was just dumb. Now when Sigma drops the first 85mm 1.2 for Sony E mount they will regret it . Whoever dropped the 85 1.2 for Sony would've sold like crazy and Sony completely missed the opportunity especially when the Sigma 85 is so close to accuracy of this lens and not that far up. So dumb. Sigma your up, hopefully they do not make the same mistake. It's just crazy to me how the 85 1.2 is untapped and nobody is gonna come get this money. Sigma will make a 1.2 and completely steal the temporary light of the GM II

    • @kremdela3517
      @kremdela3517 4 месяца назад +1

      Nobody makes a 85mm 1.2 AF, ive had an 85mm 1.2 MF native e mount for 5 years now

    • @PhotographerSen
      @PhotographerSen 4 месяца назад

      ​@@kremdela3517 You'll find both canon EF and RF mounts and Nikon Z mount 85 1.2 right in this channel.

    • @nvertd0966
      @nvertd0966 4 месяца назад

      Sony dont tap the niche market of supre wide aperature, especially not the G Master series. Those are what LOAWA and other companies do. SONY G Master is all about the absolute best lens quality on generally popular lens specs.

    • @kremdela3517
      @kremdela3517 4 месяца назад

      @@PhotographerSen sorry I should of been more clear, I meant for Sony specifically

    • @BrandonColePhotography
      @BrandonColePhotography 4 месяца назад

      @@kremdela3517 Really. SO tell me why Canon has a 1.2 in both EF and RF and Nikon

  • @amermeleitor
    @amermeleitor 4 месяца назад +3

    Why not f1.2!? 😢

    • @JayJayYUP
      @JayJayYUP 4 месяца назад +2

      Because their target is people who value sharpness and weight above anything else. Sony doesn't make interesting lenses beyond those two aspects, as evidenced by simply re-releasing updates to existing lenses. It's the same reason they don't make things like Tilt-Shift lenses. Why they don't bother even updating their Macro 90mm lens. Etc..

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 4 месяца назад +5

      Cause sony cant make it 😌

    • @DjimmyTrovy
      @DjimmyTrovy 4 месяца назад +1

      It makes sense to release the f1.4 version first, then the f1.2

    • @jeroenvdw
      @jeroenvdw 4 месяца назад +2

      @@DjimmyTrovy Yeah people will buy the F/1.4 now and then after their return term is over they introduce the 1.2

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 4 месяца назад +1

      @@JayJayYUP They just released the worlds first 70-200(.5x)/98-280(.75x)/140-400(1x) macro lens, and one of their FIRST GM lenses is a 100mm T5.6 STF lens. Heck, even their old 90mm Macro even has a super unique clutch system and is literally still the best macro from any brand. The question is, what two brain cells did you even rub together to come up with those statements?

  • @OfficialSushiSystemAmbassador
    @OfficialSushiSystemAmbassador 4 месяца назад +1

    Those buttery smooth toneh lenses are the real deal when you’re chasing that premium, cinematic look. It’s all about that glass that gives you the velvety, creamy bokeh where the background just melts away, leaving your subject sharp and popping like it's the main attraction.

  • @evrythingis1
    @evrythingis1 4 месяца назад

    Sony probably is thinking that it is better to not even have the close focusing capabilities than to have them and have reviewers complain that they have to stop down when at the MFD for sharp results. You reap what you sow.

  • @luddeh1531
    @luddeh1531 4 месяца назад

    why no side by side bokeh comparison? because the old lens has better bokeh I guess

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture 4 месяца назад

      My guess is he doesn't have that lens as these are all borrowed samples 😅

    • @christopherfrost
      @christopherfrost  4 месяца назад +1

      Because I reviewed the original lens like, 6 years ago so I don't have a comparable image. Check the original review

  • @hikertrashfilms
    @hikertrashfilms 4 месяца назад +7

    This lens should have been released two years ago, it’s still outclassed by the Sigma in terms of weight & nearly double the cost. They couldn’t make a f/1.2 because of the 46mm E-Mount, so they elected to build a video-centric 85 Prime, as opposed to a portrait photographer 85 Prime, which Nikon & Canon offers. They can make a 24 f/1.2 Prime with Quad-XD motors & shock the world once again in 2025 in conjunction with the α1ii announcement. Does Sony have the courage to still innovate?

    • @shang-hsienyang1284
      @shang-hsienyang1284 4 месяца назад +13

      It's 2025 and some people still believe the "E-mount is too small" misinformation. Instead of spreading misinformation, learn some optics and try to calculate if someone could make a 85mm f/1.2 for E mount if they want to.

    • @hikertrashfilms
      @hikertrashfilms 4 месяца назад +4

      @@shang-hsienyang1284 that is not true. Nikon was up against this wall since 1959 with F-Mount which is 44mm, vs 46mm for E-Mount. They could only make a 58mm f/1.2 and no further. When they launched Z-Mount at 55mm, they dropped the 58mm f/0.95 & 85mm f/1.2 to show that the issue was F-Mount's small opening. E-Mount has the same inherent flaw. I have hiked 13,000 miles across the nation and carried an Alpha 1 on foot from Mexico to Canada. I can talk and chew gum at the same time, hombre

    • @DLTX1007
      @DLTX1007 4 месяца назад +7

      ​@@hikertrashfilmsBuddy it's not the lens mount diameter it's the flange distance

    • @Vantrakter
      @Vantrakter 4 месяца назад +5

      The Sony is 12 grams heavier than the Sigma and has less pincushion distortion. Why are you repeating the same comment across different reviews of this lens?

    • @terencemorrissey4413
      @terencemorrissey4413 4 месяца назад +3

      The Sigma 85 has hideous distortion.

  • @aFLYER1980
    @aFLYER1980 4 месяца назад +1

    As good as this one is, I'll stick with my original 85/1.4GM

  • @Pixelpeeps-69
    @Pixelpeeps-69 4 месяца назад

    Not as good as gf110mm

  • @mbismbismb
    @mbismbismb 4 месяца назад +2

    Still nothing 85mm 1.2 from sony 😌

  • @joaopaulo24816
    @joaopaulo24816 3 месяца назад

    Analise fraca, fingiu que não existe sigma por ordem da sony

  • @DeAdLyShAdOw122
    @DeAdLyShAdOw122 4 месяца назад +1

    Strange how there was no mention of Sigma 85mm f/1.4... It's like it's paid review by Sony 🤔

  • @airjaff
    @airjaff 4 месяца назад +1

    Sonys puny e mount can't do 1.2 above a 50mm lens. This is why they released a 1.4 instead of a 1.2

    • @evrythingis1
      @evrythingis1 4 месяца назад

      I would love to know who is paying you to keep this ancient disinformation campaign alive.

    • @DoubleTheDom
      @DoubleTheDom 4 месяца назад +1

      Shop sharing misinformation

  • @cdavey7654
    @cdavey7654 4 месяца назад

    Thank goodness for Sigma... Sad how absurdly expensive most of the Sony lenses are these days!

  • @DoubleTheDom
    @DoubleTheDom 4 месяца назад

    I feel bored of 85mm lenses

  • @nicedward7544
    @nicedward7544 4 месяца назад

    Over $2k for an 85 lol. Hell to the no. Sharpness isn't everything to me and the images I've seen look flat. Super niche for someone that needs blazing af on an 85 as well.

  • @wewlad107
    @wewlad107 4 месяца назад

    those images looking pretty flat like a sigma or tamron lens, nikon z still retains that depth information

  • @chicojuanito2
    @chicojuanito2 4 месяца назад

    This is leaving Sony is hard. This lens is absolutely beyond reproach.

  • @baransevim3969
    @baransevim3969 4 месяца назад +3

    Leave it to Sony to release the most pointless lens of 2024 lmao, what’s the point of getting this over the first GM?

    • @DrWurzeli
      @DrWurzeli 4 месяца назад +5

      7:10

    • @jeroenvdw
      @jeroenvdw 4 месяца назад +1

      It's way sharper if you use a 50+ MP camera. Even on 42MP you will see the difference like in this video

    • @kristofeight9668
      @kristofeight9668 4 месяца назад +1

      smaller, lighter, much sharper, perfectly controlled LoCa, better breathing compensation, and really fast af, and most pointless lens of 2024 is mega zoom sigma 28 - 45

    • @Espere
      @Espere 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jeroenvdwaccording to Christopher it's "marginally" sharper.
      Best feature of the mark ii is that it pushes the price of the original significantly down. Buddy got a new 1.4GM for less than 800€ a week ago.

    • @jeroenvdw
      @jeroenvdw 4 месяца назад

      @@Espere Yeah if you don't mind the sharpness the mk1 is great. Sigma is €900 on sale sometimes I personally would take it over the mk1 and maybe even the mk2 just bc of the price, and it weighs a bit less

  • @claudio4153
    @claudio4153 4 месяца назад

    Hey Christopher i can no longer buy a lens before watch a your review🤣can you review the Irix 150mm macro f2.8?