The myth that Lebron James deserved MVP over Derrick Rose in 2011
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The 2011 season happened ages ago, and there are still people that can't deal with the fact Rose won MVP over James. Today I show why even if you think Lebron deserved MVP, that there is no way you can discredit Rose for winning it. He did more than people realized, or choose to remember.
Big thanks to these articles for helping me with the argument:
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One thing I wish I would've said in the vid: Dwight Howard placed second over Lebron in MVP voting, and there's definitely no way that should've happened. Lebron's season was better and the Heat won more so yes the voters may have cut him short there, but there is still no way you can discredit Rose's case for the clear cut MVP over both of them in 2011 with everything else described.
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Dom2k do a vid about curry and Ray Allen compared
Dom2k you did mention that Dwight was 2nd in mvp voting.
bill played against 5'9 white boys refute this please
Dom2k he did not get same amount of hate as KD this year he got more but other then that great video
Dom2k can you do the 3-5 LeBron
DRose is so unlucky. He could have been one of the best players in the NBA without injuries.
Kai Mehra fr
No doubt, he was a beast, he had the handles, the speed, the athleticism AND incredible touch around the rim. With some time to develop his shot he could have become a legend, and one of the most exciting players to watch.ever.
Kai Mehra he would have been better then Jordan
Kai Mehra yup at least we got Westbrook though and the rookie Dennis Smith Jr is looking like the second coming of Rose. I still shed a tear whenever I watch old Rose highlights though 😭
Stop over rating him and overhyping. He was no where near the best, despite injuries. He was another potential Penny Hardaway. Why do I say Penny, because he was also plagued with injuries rivaling Jordan, and also BETTER than Rose.
Dom, were still waiting for the Brian Scalabrine case for GOAT . you think we just gonna forget huh?
Case implies it's arguable. It's not (as in Scalabrine is the undisputed GOAT lol)
Richy M dont ever disrespect brian scalabrine like that again
ASUforLife shut up. Kawme is the goat.
Nihility White Manba FTW!
Yall underating Kwame Brown 😒
Foul💀💀 "DWade before his knees expired"
Abdullahi Ahmed lmaoooo
He said before the grim reaper took d will's career too
Just facts, this video is just facts the comments the commentary just plain bars
I was dying at that part😂😂
well I did
but what rose did to take a 1st seed team to the ECF in 3 years is simply *remarkable*. Always remember where your from and the hard work you put in. We most likely will never get him to be this explosive anymore, but at least, we witnessed greatness as the youngest MVP to ever grace the nba floor. #DRose 🌹
He could've been one of the greatest Point Guards in history. Just thinking about what he did at the age of 22 is crazy and what he could've became.
😢
He could be at least top 15 player of all time
Mau Mondragón l
Also the 1 seed hawks few years ago
drose wouldve been one of the best pointguards ever
Amaan Rakhangi would have been the best
Johonan andrew gomes L
um how old are you ?
Amaan Rakhangi he is
I'm a LBJ fan and yes, he was considered the next MJ of Chicago. Hometown kid and fan favourite. D.Rose would attack the rim better and more vicious than any PG at the time
If he can make 2 straight free throws for u to live, r u alive?
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1-Steph curry
2- Steve Nash
3- Dwight Howard
4- LeBron James
5- deandre Jordan
6- Michael Jordan
7- kyrie irving
8- Andre Drummond
9- Shaq
Steve Nash's
Walter Zhao nash
Kyrie seems like a pretty sure thing
Walter Zhao kyrie I'm alive
Jordan im good asf
D Rose,
The greatest "what if" player in history.
Still my fav player forever.
Jay Kelz hopefully he does well in Cleveland with LeBron. If anyone can resurrect a career, it's LeBron
Jay D That's what I'm waiting for!
Lmao more like Lechoke got him traded
Not sure about history. Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway likely join him in the top 3 though.
We just gonna forget Len Bias?
who takes game winning shot from full court to save your life?
1.Jae crowder
2.Lavar
3.Curry
4.Andre Drummond
5.Lou Williams
6.Kobe
7.Kevin Love
8.Lebron
9.Giannis Antetokounmpo
0.Your least athletic family member
Curry first then LeBron. We've seen both of them make deep shots and make it seem easy. I feel like Kevin Love could make it because of his deep passing ability, but not confident on that.
Pin Head Larry Definitely Drummond. Drummond is a god from half-court and beyond.
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Lavar
Kevin Love.
Damn son. Started tearing up watching this video. I love Derrick Rose man. People forget so much that this man was the goods. I really wish Thibbs would've just sat him at the end of that Philly game.
james durant thibs has nothing to do with his injury. Rose was headed for a major injury. it just came at a bad time, he missed almost half of the lockout season, his knees had an expiration date
chicagobullsfan03 Not exactly. If Rose doesn't get injured the first time. There's a good chance he doesn't get injured the other times. And there's NO WAY he gets injured if he's not in the game when they're up by 9 or 12 with 1:30 left in the 4th. So there is reason to believe Thibbs played a role.
james durant I'm a Philly guy and I agree. With a healthy Rose, we'd probably have lost that series, but so what? I'd rather have a healthy Rose playing now.
james durant stop blaming thibs. Rose missed 40% of the season that year, his time was coming.
james durant trust the process
Bron was the better player, Rose was way more valuable to his team. Boozer & Noah missed over 60 games combined and Rose still got the Bulls to the 1 seed.
Brandon Reed only people who don't get this are the ones who didn't watch the games during that season! drose was insanely on an other level
Yeah and it's not even like Bron was that much better stat wise that year, he and Wade basically cancelled each other out. That Bulls team had no business getting the 1 seed with 2 of their 4 best players missing that many games. Noah only played 49 games.
Brandon Reed ok I agree rose should of been MVP. But Lebron averaged 27/7/7/1/1 on 51% from the field and 33% from 3 while playing all NBA defense. Rose averaged 25/4/8/1/1 on 44% from the field and 33% from 3. Id say the stats lean in Lebrons favor and Lebron was still the best player in the world. But I'm fine with rose getting MVP
Al Bundy F.B.Z. z Tom Thibodeau was the real MVP of that team. Without Thibs, those early 2010's Bulls weren't even playoffs worthy talent wise. LeBron could take any coach or any supporting cast to at least the second round of the playoffs.
D wade in 2009 deserved an mvp too than...30.4 PER 2nd in the nba.....he was avg 30.4 points per game in 38 minutes played 79 games was scoring champ scored by far almost 35o more points than anyone that year... 7.5 assists which was top 8 per game and he was 8th in total assists by the end of the year... 2.2 steals which was top 2 per game and total...and he avg 1.3 blocks ...which was 16th in per game and he was 16th in total shot blocks for the year...let me say that again.....a 6'3 215 lb shooting guard was the 16th best shot.blocker when the 15 guys ahead of him were all big centers who were at least 6'9 230 ....and he was 6 blocks away from being top 13....and the 19 guys behind him in the top 35 were all pf and centers who were also at least 6'9 ......he was the only guard in the top 50....to be top 7 in assists the other guys are all point guards ahead of him aka their job and besides LeBron were all point guards naturally cause they playnake and have ball in their hands in the top 20 and to be 2nd in steals when the other top 6 are point guards and usually is them and 1st in points is great and expected of him but top 16 in blocks is insane... shot 49% fg 77% ft 32% from 3 which for him was amazing cause he used to rareley take or make them but this season he was shooting them with confidence as if he's always done that .....have you ever seen a player be top 16 in blocks points assists steals and lewd all guards in rebounds......me neither..mvp case...he won 48 games after being out and the team winning 15 and losing shaq ...33 win increase...give him kobes roster he would have won 73 with them . ..why was he third in mvp
I agree, Rose was more *valuable.*
Bill Cosby nigga what 😂😂😂💀💀💀 lebron would've done the same thing
I love Curry, but damn this is so true. So far Curry hasn't really proven himself in clutch situations leading the team to wins on his shoulders alone.
TheHolyDream LeBron played two terrible team's in the 07 playoffs and was on a top 5 defensive team as well
Bron is like the most valuable player all time lmao shut up
Bill Cosby Seriously? I dunno. Maybe you just sipped the drink you usually give the girls, Bill Cosby...
This hurts as a bulls fan so fucking much 😭😭😭😭😭
callum sharpe I blame Thibs, man. I would've picked LeBron over Rose but what I'd really love is to have a healthy Rose playing today.
Graham Strouse, even not on the bulls man, I hate LeBron but u know man if we had LeBron and he was healthy still unlike rose I'd happily take LeBron tbh lol
callum sharpe YOOO CALLUM ITS WALLWAY
Alioune Ndiaye can't believe thats I never know I had that many likes, and also hey wallway how unlikely
callum sharpe yea lol
D-Rose was god That season he took a crazy step forward in terms of his skill. and he was always great. He just wasn't quite a super star before the 2010-2011 season. and it was just more fun to watch D-Rose than any other star that season.
Exactly he was improving every aspect of his game especially his shooting. At 21 and 22 years old D Rose was making vets and other all Stars look silly when they played defense on him .Even the players who were contending for and had heights up to seven feet couldn't lock down D Rose. In my opinion he was enjoying to watch Because he played the game at 100% every play and a majority of his shots were acrobatic which amazed everyone.
man d rose had crazy athletism but those landings were knee suicide man but just watching highlights hurts as a bulls fan
Andre Mej If only the Bulls never signed Boozer, and let Gibson develop instead, as well Butler developing a bit earlier. Rose couldn't carry it by himself.
Smh too many young fans in this comments. That probably didn't see neither MVP rose or young heat lebron
Wayne he had a GREAT case
If MVP Rose and Olympic Melo cameback the knicks would be unstoppable..
AlekseyAksenov I'm 13 and I missed only a game of that season when I was 6
His argument is basically "he did less with less". Very very thin. MVP goes to the player who had the best regular season and that was Dwight. Rose had an amazing season but he won because he was the media child, simple as that.
WavesDontDie so taking a .500 team to a 60 win 1st seed in the east over miami, and noah and boozer basically hurt half the season isnt deserving of the mvp?
"Why can't I be MVP?" D rose.
you remember when he said that before that season?!?! INCREDIBLE!, this season really was magical from D rose. and all the more so that he was never able to replicate it
I also remember reading Pat Rileys article midseason about D Rose deserving the MVP at that point and then the snowball effect that article created into the MVP
i forgot about all the injuries, hard to remember anything other than how hard rose balled
LOVED THE ENDING!
Great video. As a Miami Heat fan, I remember the year Rose got the MVP. He was such a scary player. Always finding a way to drive to the basket, going around any player for his shots. He was just so dominant. I think with Lebron, he's been amazing from the very beginning, that we just expect greatness and more from him every season. Rose stuck out as the MVP for all the reasons you mentioned.. that his team wasn't that great, but achieved the best record above the Heat. If it wasn't for his injuries, man who knows what could've happened the next few years with the Bulls.
Don't forget the Bulls had Brian Scalabrine
Wtf... LeBron had dwade and Bosh. Ray Allen came along. The eat bench was deep. Rose had Noah.... There's no comparisson, rose led bulls to #1 seed in the east with no help on offense.. y'all crazy to think he deserved MVP over rose who carried that bulls team to a. Better record...
Raul Slaggings I can tell you don’t watch basketball past 2016 you’d have some pointers if you said he had Deng only. You just saw the player who had the most accomplishments and said that was the help. And please that Heat 2011 team was not that deep
what does 2016 have to do with the 2011-2012 season.? lol thats who you wanna start comparing to wade and bosh, luol deng!? lmaoo so you're saying the heat had a worse team than the bulls? lmao you have no idea what you're talking about.. bro you take dross off that team, bulls are lottery team at best. don't even @ me bro lmao your comment is ridiculous. stats aint even shit, I'm saying if you take rose off the bulls and lebron off the heat, the heat are still one of the top teams in the east, the bulls are a lottery team, thats just facts
Raul Slaggings the problem with your theory is the fact that they did take Rose off the team via injury and then they won 47 games and then they went to the second round before losing to the heat in 5 in the year 2013, 2 whole years of a roster aging. I’m saying that the fact that you used Noah when he wasn’t the second best player or even the best defender at the time tells me you don’t watch until the year 2016, the Bulls were favorite since they swept the regular season series against Miami and the final nail in the coffin is Rose won it in 2010-2011. At least make me try
mrslash blade again. Nobody talking about 2013. They added gasol am I wrong? Pretty sure he was a top 5 center/pf at the time... Don't act like they stayed the same, Jimmy Butler was evolving into a superstar. Nigga plz. Ain't nobody talking about 2013. We talking about the team that has no gasol, and a rookie jb who was still not getting minutes and developing. Go back and check everything, ain't nobody quoting the bulls the favorite coming out the east 😂😂 LeBron, Wade, Bosh.. that's all I gotta say man. Rose yeah no body compared to those players, argue all you want but facts are facts mam
Raul Slaggings you just said take Rose off that team and they don’t go to the post season, I gave you an example where they do with an older roster and you say it’s obsolete. And when Gasol went to the Bulls he was not a top 5 pf/c hell he wasn’t even the best Gasol, and the year I gave you had Butler coming off the bench. You just completely exposed yourself proving you didn’t start watching basketball until 2016.
And yes people thought that the MVP of a 60 win bulls team who destroyed Miami in the regular season with the coach of the year was favorite in the 2011 ECF. You really don’t watch basketball.
some people gotta know that LeBron already won 2 MVPs before '11 and that he was the most hated player at his time while the Bulls aged 22 carried the Bulls to a 62-20 season. It's like a storyline
Junky Munky stop it
Eddie Thomas what do you mean 'stop it' it absolutely is a story. The guy from Chicago leading them to the number 1 seed while beating Lebron, the bad guy. It's absolutely a story..
@@PRIDEATH And the story ends with the heat destroying the bulls in the East finals lol
Austin Smith when lebron had by far the superior team
Austin Smith And proceeded to get embarrassed by Jason Terry
Lebron couldn't let those 5 arrows fly... oh wait wrong vid
Dude that shit is show annoying on smooves vid 😂
xD!!! I applaud you for that...
DibbyDibbyDog Hippo
Lebron aint fight a hippo like that
Great times.
"Dwayne Wade before his knees expired" LOOOL
The reality is Lebron shouldn't even have been second in that MVP race.
I don't even think he was 2nd place. I think Howard was above him.
@@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 I agree
I also got robbed
Kobe Bryant you also robbed cp3 lol
Peyton Overall when???
PGod13 & Westbeast to LAKERS in 2018 In 2008, when Kobe won his sole MVP over Chris Paul.
I'm not saying who I wanted to win MVP that year, but it's common belief that Chris Paul should've won MVP that season.
I've literally never heard that ever LMFAO
Kobe was robbed of at least 3 MVPs
Jules no he wasn't, Kobe just put up big scoring numbers on teams with worst records than the MVP winners. That doesn't make him more valuable
Finally dom2k came out with another vid been waiting
13:30 to this day I still have no clue how Rose even found that angle. I was confused af watching live cuz I KNEW it was getting blocked. Dude was incredible
This layup is what separates Westbrook and Rose.
@@tmac731 no it’s not
@@eboy4216 how? Westbrook would’ve gotten blocked trying to go over that top of everybody
@@eboy4216 Yes, it is. When it comes to pure finishing ability at the rim, Derrick Rose pre-ACL injury blew Westbrook out of the water.
@Doatello1991 rose was much better at other things so to say this layup Is the thing to separate Westbrook and rose is imo disrespectful
Not even starting the vid, but just want to pose an idea. Swap Rose and LeBron and see what happens. If MVP Rose had a running mate like Wade and/or Bosh and players who could knock down an open shot, damn it'd be too easy
That season was special bc of how special Rose was and how good that team was despite all the flaws. 2010-11 Rose was similar to 07 LeBron and 01 Iverson
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I agree that rose deserved the mvp this year but you should've mentioned how when LeBron played for the Cavs they had the best record in the league 2 years in a row then when he left they had the worst record. Shows his value.
Right, and the Heat didn't even improve by that much. Pretty sure they only upgraded by less than 10 wins. Rose brought the Bulls from 8th to 1st with practically no help.
Wayne they improved by 11 wins and would've been a lot better if not for the shaky start. They also went from being a first round exit team to a finals team.
And I said rose deserved it anyway.
Why would he mention that?
A. E. Cooper because that happened the year rose won MVP and it shows how valuable LeBron is
When LeBron left Shaq left the same year and so did about 6 other teammates. LeBron left without telling the Cavs he was leaving so they didn't find a replacement.
It been 9 years since this man won MVP of the league when nobody else expected him to 💪🏾 shit sad I’m mad we didn’t get to see what he would’ve been in his prime 💯
That video ending is a big fucking W
LORD KEITH yeaahhhhh
About time somebody destroyed this myth people praise Lebron for his carry job yet give no credit to Lebron. I'm a curry fan but D Rose has my respect 6 years later.
LeBron fans are the absolute worst
Eren Nazir why?? Cause they tell the truth?? LeBron deserved 11MVPs if we are honest
S Amogh 😂😂😂 ok
S Amogh no, because u give lebron all the credit when he wins and then we he loses it's the "he didn't have help excuse". Lebron fans don't know "truth" from a pothole in the ground. Lebron fans don't have enough intelligence to know the truth. Lebron fans r insufferable. It's a team game.
Kobe fans are worse but Lebron fans are bad too
No offense, but do you _really_ need a 25 second long "intro"?
NaOCl I know I love his vids but it's so annoying
yes
"Why not? Why cant i be mvp of the league? Why cant i be the best player of the league?"
Funny thing DRose and Lebron are teammates and they probably gonna talk about that year
Dom is easily the most unbiased and knowledgeable NBA youtuber
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Rose's problem wasnt his injury. Paul george had a worst injury and he recovered from it. The problem that derrick rose have is that he is unavailable to shoot the ball in a league where the three point has become more and more important every year. Yeah he has lost explosiveness but if he was a better shooter and passer it would not matter. Despite all of this, he deserved the mvp in 2011
Jesus Jimenez Bones heal better than ligaments
Dom2k well that is true
You're forgetting the fact that Paul George hasn't suffered any serious injuries since then. Once Rose got injured once, the other knee injuries started happening and happening he couldn't be on the court and his explosiveness dropped as you mentioned by tearing your acl 20 times. Last year rose averaged 18 ppg and was still a good starter.
Broken leg is actually better than a blown ACL. Joint injuries are always worse.
Not to mention, Rose's game and dominance was centered around his explosiveness and athleticism. He relied on his quick change of direction moves to get in the lane and to the basket which puts lots of stress on the joints. Paul George's playstyle not as much. Also before his injuries Rose was improving his shooting season by season and from the 3-point range.
No. That is absolutley false. Everybody recovers from injuries differently. However, Paul George is very lucky that he is still a very good player. Also i just wanna add that paul George did not have the worst injury ever it may have looked terrible but drose tore his ACL,Meniscus and plenty of other injuries. And keep in mind PG didn't have any other injuries before he broke his leg.
Also wade averaged 25ppg that year
Rose won that fair and square.
MVP Rose > MVP Westbrook
Individually no, as for what he did for the team, yes.
Just no. Even with Boozer and Noah missing games, they were STILL better than everyone on the Thunder lmfao
OhMan Goddamn in terms of leading a team 100x yes. individually? nah
The Vanity oh easily
better passer scorer defender ROSE
I'm a huge LeBron James fan, but c'mon guys, give D.Rose some love. He deserved this MVP more than Bron
If somebody makes eye contact with me too long to the point were I have to stop looking first, then expect to run a fade on sight. I'm folding niggas #facts
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if Westbrook can win the mvp while averging a triple double and being a only a 6th seed,why can't LeBron win finals mvp while averging a triple double and lose
Fax
THEEHayden Rush because it's empty. Curry almost averaged a triple double too. Should he have been FMVP over KD? Regular season is different. It's a regular season award. Some ppl are jist commenting without watching the video.
TheCharlesJackson LeBron also almost avereged a triple double in the regular season
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I don't think they're ever gonna give it to a player off the losing team again
Always good to hear, "What's up NBA fans, Dom2K on the mic"
Just the video I needed 😌😌
Eh D Rose was so awesome i really miss his game, because of his early years he became one of my favorite player ever
imagine trying to hold an argument with dom2k. impossible to win
People who think Lebron should of won it obviously didn’t watch drose that season he led the bulls too the best record in the league with mainly defensive players and being manly the only offensive threat on the team.
Now I love Lebron he’s my favorite player of all time but too say he deserved mvp over drose is just foolish, besides he had 2 other hof caliber on his team in bosh and wade and not too mention a prime wade like cmon no way he deserved that over Rose
No matter how you look it at you can’t be a mvp with another top 3 player on ur team
The Bulls were great because they were the #1 ranked defense in the entire league thanks to coach Thibs. In 2012 the Bulls had a winning record without Rose and in 2013 and 2014 the Bulls were still a top 5 seed without Rose.
this dude has the best video ideas on youtube hands down
One thing you didn’t mention was the amount of clutch shots and clutch performances Derrick Rose had that season.
One game in particular against Miami where he made clutch shots and set up Deng for the game winning three.
Off the top of my head I also remember game winners vs Milwaukee & Houston. If you look at any Close Bulls game from 2010-2011 you will see Rose being clutch
Still didn’t have a better year than LeBron overall indefinitely was not going to beat the heat in a playoff series
Never clicked on a Dom2k video so fast
ROSE HAD NO HELP????? WHAT ABOUT THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE MY BAD OF ALL TIME, BRIAN SCALABRINE
Nah man, D-rose deserved it
Dom2k back at it again with the best videos
Dwight Howard deserved 2010-11 MVP more than Lebron that season.
No
@@wildcat_savage96-33 Lebron play with 1 superstar and 1 abpve averaged all star, while still finish 2nd, while Dwight with no star teammate, led Orlando to finish 4th, while put a two way season, on defense and offense not just win DPOY.
What about the myth that my sons are busts
Lavar Ball It's no myth bud
It is a myth noob Lonzo is the GOAT
He actually took the time out to make a fake lavar ball account 😂😂😂
Keith Bogans 😂😂
i love the creativity at the end
It's so sad what happened to Derrick. People forget how good he actually was, and I don't think he'd even hit his prime yet at the time of the first knee injury. He was on track to be an all-time great...
He was going to get injured eventually he had bad landings and the athletic point guard archetype only seems to last a decades tops before they slow down
"Why not, why can't I be the MVP of the league, why can't I be the best player in the league?"
HOW BOUT NEXT YOU DO A VIDEO OF THE MYTH THAT KOBE BRYANT DESERVED MORE THAN 1 MVP (2003-2009)
Well he did. In 2006 he should have won mvp
I remember my dad said he wasn't gonna get me real basketball sneaks until I became a real baller. I worked that whole summer everyday and legit got 5 times better. He saw me try out for my middle school team and that same day he got me the all red D Rose 2.5s. The following week I got a high ankle sprain and missed damn near the whole season...fuck D rose and those sneakers
Young Draco Malfoy I'm done lmao
This comment seemed so positive and than just took a nose dive out of nowhere.
lmao same. i baughy droses n broke my foot the next week. last year i boughy more droses (the 5s i think) and sprained my acl 😂 jts all bc the shoes lol
Lmao that's fucked up in so many ways
much needed video dude
Im a die hard heat fan, but I would NEVER take this away from D rose
But Jordan was robbed of a bunch of awards right? The Bulls had a more well rounded roster and better bench. You gloss over players like Korver and Deng like they were scrubs. The Heat had 3 actual good players on their roster and that was it. No PG, no non-old big-man, nothing. If LeBron was on that Bulls team he would have been a little less efficient but had better stats, because he would've been forced to do nearly everything like he was with the Cavs in his two previous MVP seasons. Aside from his rookie season LeBron has NEVER shot 44% like Rose did, not even under 47%. You can say being better than Rose or basically equal to Rose that year in every statistical category means nothing because of team records all you want, but it sure starts to sound like you're calling it a team award doesn't it? 🤔Basketball is a lot like baseball in the way that the numbers easily and clearly show who has the biggest impact on the game in most cases. One day I hope the league just stops this media voting nonsense and starts giving the MVP to the guy with the best statistical stats, even if it means giving it to a guy on a worse team. It would stop all this crafting of narrative bs. LeBron should have 6 MVPs (also CLEARLY robbed in 2007-08) and James Harden should have 2. Let the fans and media complain about it, they'll get over it.
Kai Kawasumi Lost in all of this is how massive of an influence Thibs was on how good those early 2010's Bulls were. They won 60 games because of their defense more than because of Rose.
Kai Kawasumi
Rose's STARTING Shooting Guard averaged 4 PPG.
LeBron's starting Shooting Guard was Dwayne Wade.
LeBron's own teammate (Chris Bosh) & LeBron himself admitted that Derrick Rose was the CLEAR MVP.
Kai Kawasumi LeBron didn’t even finish 2nd in MVP voting plus the star power they had trumped anything the Bulls had outside Rose
57 likes and 32 views wow RUclips congratulations you played yourself
Shut up
Dude your channel is the best
Dom2k snapped me back🐐🐐
Wait, LeCuck's fans really think Derrick Rose didn't deserve his MVP? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo
MVP ROSE🌹> MVP CURRY
Mike Barnes yes!
Mike Barnes nah
Nah and I'm a Celtics fan
Mike Barnes Not only is that not true, but what does Curry's MVP season have to do with this video? 😂😂 Someone's mad the Warriors got the best team award over the garbage Patriots 😂. L
2016 curry is by far better. Stop hating on him.
So if you're bringing up this as an argument then why did harden not beat Westbrook since stat lines shouldn't matter 🤔... he had a better record in a tough western conference. Mvps are supposed to make their supporting cast better and he did not. He just was someone who simply was the sole ball handler
Cameron Smith that's very true but let's be honest when Westbrook averaged a trouble double we all knew he was winning but yeah Harden got robbed twice.
I called it before the season started simply because Durant left him
Westbrook is also alone on that team. True, he can't make his teammates better, he probably didn't even try, he's not fit as a leader.BUT the fact that he carried that team to the playoffs earned him the MVP.
The MVP award is not neccesarly for the best player, but the most "impactful" one .
Steph CurrGoat #2017Champions I could go into how he actually got the triple double but I won't. It's a lot of stat padding going on with that shit. Blind eyes could see that so that triple double shit didn't move me much because it didn't convert into wins. He was playing to make himself look good, not to better his teammates which is what an MVP generally should do
Cristi Georgian who really was gonna be in the playoffs over them this year. His team was not as horrible as ppl make it seem. Adams is a good center and rim protector. Oladipo is already good and has potential to be great. But when you have someone taking ALL of the shots the potential of your talent placed around you is ruined and wasted
Lol I love the term you used for dwyane wade, "expired"
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Dwayne wade before his knees expired 😂😂😂
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People forget that the MVP isn't supposed to go to the better player but the one who's more VALUABLE. Rose was more valuable to the Bulls than LeBron was to the Heat.
Dude Derrick rose made the bulls the best team in the league 62-20
Your videos and logic are always on point.
Lebron stat line was better than KDs in the finals, D Roses wasn't better than Lebrons so that wasn't a contradiction just saying
e3mitchell23 his statline was better because the Dubs focused their defense on the others for the Cavs. KD and Curry put up their numbers while being the main watch of the defense. On top of that KD continued to hit big shot after big shot over LeBron and defended him well too. LeBron didn't have a single stop on Durant the whole series and consistently called for doubles because he couldn't take him.
TheCharlesJackson triple double but he was defended well?
His statline was better because Warriors let him shoot and score lmao. KD was clearly the better player because defense is a thing, and KD does that better.
OhMan Goddamn who did KD defend then if the warriors let Lebron score 30+ on them?
e3mitchell23 a number of different people as well as playing stellar help defense. Did you watch the game ? The amount of time Lebron holds the all for and dropping 30 shouldn't be commended. Kd played less minutes and touched the ball a lot less than Lebron and still averaged more.
Man I like your vids but you discredit Lebron way too much.
Jaquari Sanders He has an entire video highlighting Lebron's best playoff moments. He's pretty unbiased.
Jamarcus Russell #2Hunnit #2TORMSCOMING wow ONE vs the countless he has against him. 🤦🏾♂️
Jaquari Sanders Everything he said in this video was a fact. Nothing was falsified nothing was a lie nothing but facts in this video. So I don't know how you come to conclusion that he discredits LeBron.
cause every lebron fanboy can't hear anything negative about the man and not label you a hater or biased
I think when a person is face of the league the media forces that person down our throats. It happens with every superstar. The people who don't buy the hype speak out on it and the fans of that star say that person is hating or bashing. That's not the case it's just no one man in a league of talent is gonna outshine every other player in every category every year
You already know what the fuck goin' on.
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I legit save this video to watch now and then.
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Which one would you take?2011 Derrick Rose vs 2017 Russell Westbrook
I'll take Westbrook.
Zeus Taylor I like both, but I would take Rose, Westbrook can be wreckless at some points
Zeus Taylor rose cuz he's a better leader more effecient and less turnover
Zeus Taylor rose because he's more exciting to watch and he got more wins and made it to the ECF
Rose because no stat padding
LeBron averaged more points, rebounds, blocks and on higher FG%. Of course LeBron deserved it over Rose.
RJPointer and he was 5 inches taller and was I his prime and Rose was a rookie so actually rose deserves the MVP and if rose never got In hired his stats would be like 29.9 ppg and 9 apg 4 steels per game and 10 rebounds per game
Johonan andrew gomes Rookie???????
Lol I watched the video I just happen to disagree. its ok.
RJPointer same amount of blocks
Johonan andrew gomes same amount of blocks which is crazy if u think about it
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great video as always dom
another excellent video. brought up points I had forgotten.
We would have won in 2012 and 2013 for sure d rose would have been a top 5 player of all time
Another dope video man
I love how people think Rose sucks when he averaged 18 ppg on only 16 shots a game with the biggest ball hog in the league in Melo
Great vid Dom2k. Nothing but facts!
Also, MOST of the RUclips basketball community consists of 12 year olds, so most of them are going to be far too young to remember the 2010-2011 NBA season. Like , I'm only 22, and these kids are making me feel so old right now. Is it summer break?
This was legitimately and a very sophisticated explanation that makes total sense on hoq underrated his MVP season. Really loved the breakdown and insight!
And he was actually 6'1 that whole time btw, dunking on everyone!!! #DRose
This video has been needed
The reason why people were complaining about it was because even though the Bulls were the number one seed, Derrick didn’t lead the league in scoring or assist or any other category at the point guard spot.
Dom the argument killer
First time coming back to this channel in awhile, I fw the intro heavy
LOVE the ending dom