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@@Lung-Stealer it's just the Fallout theme in general, the arrangement played on the violin for 4 and the show are the same for 3 and New Vegas but just with a wind instrument.
People mad that some scavengers have NCR ranger gear are the same people who don’t mind taking the gear off of corpses or stealing it for themselves in game
I thought the comments the Ghoul made about there "still being some of your lead in me" and the son being radicalized by Moldover definitely pointed to an affiliation with the NCR. The old man was probably a ranger before Shady Sands got blown up.
@@ryandoomy1244 Ghoul called him a Lead Farmer. I assumed he meant they manufacture bullets and possibly weapons like the Buller Farmers in Mad Max. If he has his lead in him its probably because he supplies to everyone in the area.
If Adam is former NCR but still think Moldaver and her remnants are crazy, it could imply that hers arent the only NCR remnant/faction around, maybe original NCR is still alive, or splintered to smaller groups
@@WRAAEEE What we have to understand about Moldaver is that she came to Shady Sands talking to people about how she was going to bring them Cold Fusion energy, and that she continued to pursue this goal well after Shady Sands was bombed. I'm sure that for a lot of NCR folk just trying to survive, her vision of resurrecting the NCR, leading a revolt against Vault-Tec, and the methods she employed might seem like she really was just another Cult-Leader. She must have seemed crazy to all the people who were just trying to move on and focus on their survival.
@@firstlast9846 That doesn't seem likely to me? The Ghoul mentions that he thinks that he still has some lead in his body from Adam, which makes sense if Adam was a Ranger.
I like the difference in tone of this theme playing in the show. In the games it feels brutal, harsh, and strong. In the show it feels somber and hopeful, that despite how cruel the world is, how ever many times humanity fucks up, there will always be good people fighting the good fight.
Fallout 4's rendition is pretty hopeful too, in my opinion. It meshes well with the game's theme of rebuilding from the ground up after the worst has come and gone, uniting everyone under a common cause, and the hope for the future it brings.
The theme plays during the end credits of that episode as well. There it's eerie and almost has a touch of the spookiness of "beyond the wall" in GoT (same composer).
@@sightstrikemaster There is no confirmation of that. We know NCR has decline, but not that they are utterly gone. We see two groups of remnants after all.
@sightstrikemaster Don't know if you've played FNV but they mentioned shady sands was the former capital of the NCR. They're still around, like how somehow the enclave are still around.
Lmao, everyone talking about NCR veteran rangers when the armor is actually Desert Rangers uniform originally - organisation predating the NCR, a member of which you meet and can recruit back in the OG fallout. They just happened to ally and merge with NCR eventually, a memorial (desert ranger and an NCR trooper shaking hands) to which you can see in New Vegas at an outpost.
The NCR ranger and the Desert Ranger are separate organization. This is the NCR "black armor". Desert Ranger did not have Riot Gears... as seen in the memorial you're referencing.
whoever thinks the NCR no longer exists in any capacity is just naive I'd say, a faction of that size and level of organization doesn't get completely wiped out by losing their big city, they may fracture into multiple administrations or keep on existing in some other form, my guess is that there's a provisional NCR government out there with many internal issues but still kicking nonetheless. There could even be a successor faction that is comprised of desert rangers, who basically impose a military administration rather than a civilian one.
@@lagginghippie870 I think this is more of a fan theory statement than it is pointing out any failures in the show. Nonetheless, your comment deserves a thumbs up because I find comments that sound like crotchety old grandpa's complaining funny.
@@borissand3891Bethesda made fallout good lol, without them the original 2 games wouldve faded away and been forgotten, Now fallout is quite literally the only heavy hitter franchise that Microsoft has left
For everyone worried the NCR is gone. Shady sands was one city in a country of 700 thousand, only about 5% of their total population. The remnants we see are likely just remnants in the region after the NCR chooses to withdraw from a now re irradiated wasteland. Vault City for example is a part of the NCR and I suspect is a fairly large city now, probably comparable to shady sands before it was nuked given it’s advanced technology and support of a larger economic system.
@@ByrgenworthGraduate Yeah all the Obsidian fanboys are seething and still crying that the people who paid attention were right all along. They're so obsessed with their hatred for Bethesda they're actually upset now that Shady Sands wasn't nuked before New Vegas it makes them look bad for being a bunch of cry babies.
If the House ending is canon, then I could not have been good for the NCR to walk back empty handed. I think nefarious types within the NCR like the Van Graffs were waiting for something like Shady Sands to happen and they are back to being petty warlords. NCR exists as a people but they are not a civilization anymore.
I like how between this and the scene in Vault 4 where Lucy finds the flag, the main theme from the games is taking on the role of the NCR's theme in the show. Which I'd say bodes well for the NCR's place in the future of the series
The NCR will survive until the war between them and the brotherhood, Bethesda is trying to make canon this war from fallout tactics like they did with some other things from tactics, van Buren and other cancelled games, but changing a bit, like the minutemen being present which will be a major side in this war in a future fallout game, probably siding with the NCR since in fallout 4 they don't like that much the brotherhood of Arthur Maxson
Yup, it's a legend of a scene, and definitely an homage. Copied in Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Basterds, here, and I'm fairly certain many other TV shows and films
Season 2 is gonna have Lucy and Cooper in the Mojave, I can feel it. With everything that Todd has been saying in interviews, and how season 1 ended, New Vegas and the NCR are gonna play a HUGE part in season 2.
i sure hope so , im not a fan how shady sands and ncr was handled in season 1 but i will say this at least shady sands is an important plot point and is even the origin of maximus that being said the ncr would continue to be a target of vault tec and ncr would like to have "some words" with them
I'm fascinated by clearly a return of the Brotherhood of Steel to Power on the West Coast. sounds like the East Coast took over leadership (from the highest authority in the Commonwealth), and came out west to help.
@@hengineer Given the East Coast looted all the Enclave goodies in DC and T60 stocks in the Commonwealth while the West got crushed by the NCR and was reduced to armored raiders in hiding, yeah, it shouldn't be surprising that the former would now be strong enough to call the shots. On top of being his own kind of badass, Maxson also has his name's legacy to go by.
This is an amazing echo of the first cover of Fallout 2, showing a Tribal wearing a defaced Brotherhood Helmet. When one society falls, another rises from the ashes.
Dude you get it. When I looked back at this scene, I realized that they probably scavenged that armor. I mean a gas mask with an air filter would be great in a desert and those dusters would keep the sun of their backs. Not to mention the helmets dont even fit the dad and they had to be held together by wires.
I like to think Adam and his wife were NCR rangers, explaining how they have the armor. Then his wife died and his son wears the mom's old uniform when they go out. Of course now the daughter is gonna be the one wearing it when shes old enough.
In FO 1Desert Ranger were a different faction descendant of the Texas Ranger. They allies with NCR to fought Legions. If Bethesda and Nolan choose neither faction took Hoover Dam (status quo always the solution), there's a chance the Desert Ranger return to their original state, protecting Nevada and Arizona from raiders,etc.
The F1 desert rangers were based off of the desert rangers from Arizona in the wasteland series, so if you're wondering how they're doing, Colorado was a shit show lmao, dope game though
My personal theory is that they want to give us an optimistic approach with the NCR. In fact, that maybe we'll get and NCR character arc, with a Courier-like character. Think about how they are making us think the NCR is dead, yet how the show portrays it as a good faction, compared to the BOS or Vault-tec. I imagine Todd and the team are purposefully weakening the NCR to make it do a comeback with a lone character that'll enter the show. This is especially true if NV canon ending is "The house always wins", where the NCR are pushed away, yet the Courier still remains near the Strip, leaving the possibility for a sort of "legacy" to be awakened after Shady Sand's bombing.
I do hope that NCR won't become some kind of "GOOD GUYS" in series, because they aren't supposed to be and it would only ruin the fun. But I would like to think that NCR would yes, make a comeback, and look like they're on good side, but then main characters would discover their taxes, lyings and corruption and would be kinda "meh, they're the same as others". Which would be amazing
It‘s a losing game lol. If they appear in the sequel seasons idiot fanboys will proclaim victory that the „fan pressure won, bethesda is forced to reverse decisions“ or some shit because they have zero narrative foresight and media literacy.
@@retrotechgames-diyrepair4691 They're most definitely just settlers who found the armor probably lying somewhere (maybe on dead rangers) and are trying to use it to keep the sand and the dust off their face, they just dont know how to properly put it on, or its heavily damaged pieces
One thing I love about cinema is that orchestral music has been the standard for impactful and memorable film scores for nearly the entire existence of cinema.
People nitpicking about who these guys are are completely missing a beautifully shot, heavily atmospheric scene with a gorgeous, curiously uplifting rendition of the Fallout theme.
@@R3GARnatorI think he meant the ncr soldier armor we see in nv Im guessing the ones at the observatory were probably not enlisted soldiers but just people who couldn’t let go of shady sands
Ya'll have no idea how happy I was hearing the main theme, and then seeing the scavengers wearing NCR armor. I got all teary eyed in the best way possible.
Fuck this scene made me emotional and just love the violin it's all calming and shit. We need to see more of the NCR ranger outfits like this in season 2. We need to see if they were part of the NCR rangers or how they got the outfits to begin with
When atomic fire consumed the earth, those who survived did so in great, underground vaults. When they opened, their inhabitants set out across ruins of the old world to build new societies, establish new villages, forming tribes.
As decades passed, what had been the American southwest united beneath the flag of the New California Republic, dedicated to old-world values of democracy and the rule of law.
Strange they're using the Fallout 3 & 4 music for moments that reflect the New California Republic. As far as I can recall, the only reference to the NCR was in Fallout 4 in Kellog's memories and that didn't feature this music. It's akin to seeing the original Star Trek series characters (Kirk, Spock etc.) entering the scene and the Star Trek Voyager theme begins to play. Since New Vegas was done by the same composer who did Fallout 3 and 4's theme, I wonder why they didn't try using that game's theme in callback moments like this.
@@Captain_Matias_Torres Again with this dumb narrative lmao. If Todd hated New Vegas he would've petitioned against putting ANYTHING new vegas related in the show. It's clear you just have a hate b0ner
@@Captain_Matias_Torres Lol, if Todd hated NV he never would've let anything NV related into the show in the first place and would've taken place in the east coast instead, but hey "bethesda bad obsidian good" Also to completely kill this false narrative, here is everything the fans "claim" to be Todd's distaste for Obsidian (which at this point wouldn't even make sense since they're both part of the same company) 1) "Bethesda screwed Obsidian and only gave them 18 months!" Routinely debunked by Chris Avellone (main writer of the New Vegas DLCs), who said that the team thought it was "fair" to make a game in 18 months considering the engine and most of the assets were already made. Of course, didn't turn out well at release because of the numerous technical issues. Obsidian also had the habit of always picking extremely closed deadlines with their previous games. This wasn't some forced deadline and they could have easily asked for more time at the start if they fully looked at the scope of the programming, but they didn't. Still, they delivered one of my favourite games of all time. 2) "Bethesda screwed Obsidian with the paycheck because Metacritic gave the game an 84 instead of an 85" Again, debunked by Chris Avellone, I will now proceed to give the quote completely his own words from Fallout Apocrypha (and if needed Twitter) as my source: "The 'Metacritic bonus' if the game got above an 84 review score was something Bethesda offered above and beyond the New Vegas contract. We didn’t ask for this, they offered it, and it was our responsibility to hit that review score. We did have to have layoffs at Obsidian around this time period, but the bonus from Metacritic wouldn’t have prevented that from happening." Unless you have a severe lack of skill in reading comprehension, I think this is pretty self explanatory. 3) "Todd howard hates new vegas!!!" There is quite literally no way I can debunk this, because people will believe what they want to. Todd has said in an IGN interview (IGN Unfiltered #43) that he thinks the guys at Obsidian did a fantastic job. The new vegas/interplan fanboys (not the regular fans, I'm talking about the obsessed ones) want to paint Todd out to be a monstrous entity that personally nuked their hometown or something (well I guess its sort of true lmao). I am not a fan of Todd's lies or his recent games, but to blame him as the center piece for obsidian and interplay's "fall out" (lol) is being ridiculous. I am not a fan of current bethesda, but without them, Fallout would've died as an indie title (we wouldn't get the planned Van Buren game either) and we never would've gotten this show or new vegas for that matter.
What people don't seem to realise is that the Ranger armour is pre-war Riot gear. The Rangers aren't the only ones who use it but they are the most well known
Two prospectors walking around in some of the best armor you can get. Armor they have no business wearing, that they had incredible luck to scavenge. This is a random encounter!
I cast my own bullets using lead I pull from the ground on public lands. It was neat to see that part of the reloading process portrayed in the show. The lead I dig out is usually on the surface, so I rarely actually dig.
I don’t think these guys are NCR rangers but rather people who looted dead ones, or broke into an armory. NCR isn’t dead, but it does look like anyone left in the Shady Sands area has been left to their fates while the rest of the NCR recuperates. Kind of like how the NCR (as well as the Legion) abandoned their soldiers in the Divide.
@jaredwmac Yeah, the only NCR left in the LA area are remnants like Moldovers crew up at the Observatory. Cut off and not really part of the NCR at large any more, but still holding onto some of the gear and ideals
@@alexlyster3459 i assume they relocated their capital to either Vault City, The Hub or New Reno. It did said that Shady sands was the first capital of the NCR so they probally changes their capital after New Vegas
Yes. I think they either bought it online, or rented it from a cosplayer. It's cheaper than commissioning a company to make them from scratch. And it shows how it doesn't fit the old guy.
It appears like the helmet looks off because it actually is off. You can see the spots where the helmet is supposed to connect to the mask are disconnected, causing the helmet to be misaligned and set back. This is meant to show that the scavengers aren't actually NCR rangers, and use the armor without really understanding how it works
i think he is a former NCR ranger, and after shady sands was got nuked he just become ordinary suffice dweller. but why fallout theme show up every time they show NCR?
The legion probably dissolved after Caesar's and lanius' deaths, they aren't a problem anymore, even if the legion ending was canon the legion still wouldn't exist after some decades.
man this comment section really proving that fallout fans have the most surface level understanding of literally anything in front of them and the method of "show-don't tell" is a completely foreign concept
Still better than the grind and cash grab that is 76 Atomic Shop. Some people really like shit gloated over their throat with dad's credit card @@bunnitomoe3866
@@donduseigneurpsaume915he’s more than likely talking about how weird the helmets look. They sit way too high above the mask. It’s actually quite glaring.
@@zacharymccants77 The helmets are damaged. You can see that it's missing the bolts which usually connect the helmet to the faceplate. You can even slightly see into the guy's head on the inside. They designed it to intentionally look that way.
No, I don't think so. Maybe Lucy's father, but I don't have anything to back it up other than that he seems too cool/used to the outside world for only being there a short time.
It seems that a lot of people forgot how the NCR worked. This armor didn't belong to solely the NCR, it belonged to the Desert Rangers of Nevada and Arizona, who themselves were a splinter of the Texas Rangers. They based themselves in the Mojave and upon coming in to contact with the NCR they decided to join forces commemorating the Unification Monument you see in game. Just because Shady Sands is gone doesn't mean the NCR is dead, there's still a republic, its just not entirely Californian centered anymore.
@@marcuscain1377 because this is the lowest bar of expectation we could of ever got from a fallout TV show, I'm honestly more of a fallout 3 fan then new vegas so I'm really not nitpicky about a lot of that stuff but even without talking about the NV stuff the show is just so heavily romanticized with itself it feels like a marvel movie and not in a good way.
I really loved the show, I just wish the ncr outfit didn’t look like it came from the spirit halloween store. Some guy on reddit pulled off a way more realistic cosplay
Seems like the helmet and mask are separated by the lack of whatever those 2 holes on the sides hold, both the helmet and mask have those holes, they are not connected correctly and the helmet falls due to that.
Why is there so many people ripping on the idea of these two scavengers having those suits? The NCR didn’t even freaking make the elite Ranger armor. They’re specialized prewar riot suits that were scavenged from police stations in the Boneyard by the NCR, they were just assigned to the elite Rangers because it was the best gear the NCR had at its disposal short of Power Armor. These guys could have gotten those suits from literally anywhere other than a dead NCR ranger.
@@thegooseshow2691I'll make it simple for you to understand: cool armor isn't created by NCR, but found in police stations, so scavengers found it from there and not by killing cool NCR guy
It's heavily implied that the dad was a former veteran ranger, the Ghoul even mentions 'Some lead still being in him' from their last meeting, so clearly he was skilled enough to survive meeting the Ghoul, which in the show, is not a luxury many get.
I think they shouldn't have done this. I dunno what they were thinking that they have to cocktease the NCR or even reference a dubious date that is very important to the events and flow of one of the most popular game in the series. But it kinda does mix signals as to what they're implying with the lore. You either go big or go home, and if they're not even planning on handling NCR in the first place it's best to just leave it well enough alone so that people won't question what they wanna do. Or just say "yeah they moved somewhere"
@@GAEULsbn That's not a problem to me, since at least it explains why nothing was ever retconned. Although I'm a little concerned with the fact they said they will not handle New Vegas in a massive way but pull stuff like this. If they are gonna handle it, fine, let's see where it goes, but they said they're gonna leave it alone, so I'm a little confused. I don't really equate NCR as destroyed just because Shady Sands got bonked, it just wouldn't make sense since NCR is pretty big, for them to even kick BoS out of the West coast in the first place.
@@GAEULsbn Just from the stuff going around, and yeah of course the games are canon, honestly more reason for me to be skeptical. I don't trust Todd and Bethesda in general to do the West coast justice. But we'll see...
Fallout 3 and 4 have this melody in their themes. Fallout 4 has more violin in it which makes it sound more similar to this. But eventually this is the fallout theme and that's why I put that title
Never played the game before watching the show, all I thought when those two guys came on screen was: "huh....I don't know why but those masks seem unnecessarily noticeable" didn't even occur to me it was a direct reference 😂💀
The NCR isn’t gone guys. The whole issue with the NCR in New Vegas was that they were spread too thin. There’s more out there. We just lost Shady Sands but there’s plenty more wasteland out there.
I like to imagine the reason why the ranger helmet has a forehead is because the dude is retired and just got fat enough to the point it pushes the mask out from the helmet
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nice profile pic
Worth mentioning that their house is also one of the settlement prefab buildings from fallout 4.
Yea, didn't notice that, that's actually really cool.
And they probably need some help, I'll mark their location on your map
The details do be looking 16 more times
IK IT LOOKED FAMILIAR
Oh so what you’re saying is these dick’s stole the sole survivor’s construction style. Can’t have shit in fallout…
I liked the little Fallout theme sting we get when Lucy briefly unfurls the NCR flag in Vault 4.
yeah that was dope!
I think that’s the fo:nv theme
@@aname5078 it was the fallout 4 theme
@@Lung-Stealer it's just the Fallout theme in general, the arrangement played on the violin for 4 and the show are the same for 3 and New Vegas but just with a wind instrument.
OH MY GOD YES!!! when she did that and I heard the music that just put a smile on my face.
People mad that some scavengers have NCR ranger gear are the same people who don’t mind taking the gear off of corpses or stealing it for themselves in game
And for all we know the father was a ranger
this comment just slapped me right across the face
I thought the comments the Ghoul made about there "still being some of your lead in me" and the son being radicalized by Moldover definitely pointed to an affiliation with the NCR. The old man was probably a ranger before Shady Sands got blown up.
That could just as well be riot gear like in Lonesome Road
@@ryandoomy1244 Ghoul called him a Lead Farmer. I assumed he meant they manufacture bullets and possibly weapons like the Buller Farmers in Mad Max. If he has his lead in him its probably because he supplies to everyone in the area.
I think what this signifies is that Adam is a former NCR Veteran Ranger.
yesss i’m currently playing fallout nv and i soooo hope the ncr still exists
they’re the only faction i like
If Adam is former NCR but still think Moldaver and her remnants are crazy, it could imply that hers arent the only NCR remnant/faction around, maybe original NCR is still alive, or splintered to smaller groups
@@WRAAEEE What we have to understand about Moldaver is that she came to Shady Sands talking to people about how she was going to bring them Cold Fusion energy, and that she continued to pursue this goal well after Shady Sands was bombed. I'm sure that for a lot of NCR folk just trying to survive, her vision of resurrecting the NCR, leading a revolt against Vault-Tec, and the methods she employed might seem like she really was just another Cult-Leader. She must have seemed crazy to all the people who were just trying to move on and focus on their survival.
Or they just scavenged uniforms and whatever they could find from corpses
@@firstlast9846 That doesn't seem likely to me? The Ghoul mentions that he thinks that he still has some lead in his body from Adam, which makes sense if Adam was a Ranger.
I like the difference in tone of this theme playing in the show. In the games it feels brutal, harsh, and strong. In the show it feels somber and hopeful, that despite how cruel the world is, how ever many times humanity fucks up, there will always be good people fighting the good fight.
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Fallout 4's rendition is pretty hopeful too, in my opinion. It meshes well with the game's theme of rebuilding from the ground up after the worst has come and gone, uniting everyone under a common cause, and the hope for the future it brings.
The theme plays during the end credits of that episode as well. There it's eerie and almost has a touch of the spookiness of "beyond the wall" in GoT (same composer).
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That's how I've always interpreted Fallout: We're all living in the rubble of someone else's mistakes, but we'll always rebuild, block by block.
really thought it would be ncr rangers
There is no more NCR (I started a war in comments)
I was really hoping the father was an ex ranger who retired after the Mojave Campaign
@@sightstrikemaster There is no confirmation of that. We know NCR has decline, but not that they are utterly gone. We see two groups of remnants after all.
@@sightstrikemaster nothing in the entire series indicates that. shady sands is irrelevant to the actual existence of the ncr
@sightstrikemaster Don't know if you've played FNV but they mentioned shady sands was the former capital of the NCR. They're still around, like how somehow the enclave are still around.
Lmao, everyone talking about NCR veteran rangers when the armor is actually Desert Rangers uniform originally - organisation predating the NCR, a member of which you meet and can recruit back in the OG fallout.
They just happened to ally and merge with NCR eventually, a memorial (desert ranger and an NCR trooper shaking hands) to which you can see in New Vegas at an outpost.
Yep, that'd be Tycho, definitely a good character to recruit when you get the opportunity to do so.
And before that it was the Riot Gear for the LAPD lol
@@K-11609 I believe they are also pre-war military equipment since you can find them in lockers in the divide's military bases
The NCR ranger and the Desert Ranger are separate organization.
This is the NCR "black armor". Desert Ranger did not have Riot Gears... as seen in the memorial you're referencing.
@@Geroaergaroe the Desert Rangers became the Veteran Rangers as they were assimilated into the NCR
whoever thinks the NCR no longer exists in any capacity is just naive I'd say, a faction of that size and level of organization doesn't get completely wiped out by losing their big city, they may fracture into multiple administrations or keep on existing in some other form, my guess is that there's a provisional NCR government out there with many internal issues but still kicking nonetheless.
There could even be a successor faction that is comprised of desert rangers, who basically impose a military administration rather than a civilian one.
If you watch the final episode we actually see one of these factions, you are spot on
You underestimate bethesda in writing a competent story
@@borissand3891can we just enjoy the show without one of you mouth breathers trying to speak it's failure into fruition.
@@lagginghippie870 I think this is more of a fan theory statement than it is pointing out any failures in the show. Nonetheless, your comment deserves a thumbs up because I find comments that sound like crotchety old grandpa's complaining funny.
@@borissand3891Bethesda made fallout good lol, without them the original 2 games wouldve faded away and been forgotten, Now fallout is quite literally the only heavy hitter franchise that Microsoft has left
For everyone worried the NCR is gone. Shady sands was one city in a country of 700 thousand, only about 5% of their total population. The remnants we see are likely just remnants in the region after the NCR chooses to withdraw from a now re irradiated wasteland. Vault City for example is a part of the NCR and I suspect is a fairly large city now, probably comparable to shady sands before it was nuked given it’s advanced technology and support of a larger economic system.
Todd Howard literally confirmed a few hours ago that shady sands blew up shortly after fallout nv
@@ByrgenworthGraduate Yeah all the Obsidian fanboys are seething and still crying that the people who paid attention were right all along.
They're so obsessed with their hatred for Bethesda they're actually upset now that Shady Sands wasn't nuked before New Vegas it makes them look bad for being a bunch of cry babies.
@@ByrgenworthGraduate that’s not what I said I’m just saying that Shady Sands was only a fraction of the NCR.
If the House ending is canon, then I could not have been good for the NCR to walk back empty handed. I think nefarious types within the NCR like the Van Graffs were waiting for something like Shady Sands to happen and they are back to being petty warlords. NCR exists as a people but they are not a civilization anymore.
Which means New Vegas is either the Independent ending or House ending or complete disarray.
I like how between this and the scene in Vault 4 where Lucy finds the flag, the main theme from the games is taking on the role of the NCR's theme in the show. Which I'd say bodes well for the NCR's place in the future of the series
I love this ❤
The NCR will survive until the war between them and the brotherhood, Bethesda is trying to make canon this war from fallout tactics like they did with some other things from tactics, van Buren and other cancelled games, but changing a bit, like the minutemen being present which will be a major side in this war in a future fallout game, probably siding with the NCR since in fallout 4 they don't like that much the brotherhood of Arthur Maxson
Honestly the scene right after these plays out like Angels Eyes Villain scene form The Good The Bad And The Ugly.
They might have got inspired by it !
For thoses wondering what scene :
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Yup, it's a legend of a scene, and definitely an homage. Copied in Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Basterds, here, and I'm fairly certain many other TV shows and films
Missed opportunity not calling this episode ''The Ghoul, The Bad and The Ugly''
@tonyli7752 Ohhhh but they did like in the movie with "Lucy", "Maximus", "The Ghoul". The three titles after introducing each character.
i thought i was the only one who thought about that scene when I first saw this
The fact that i recognized it almost instantly made me think about how ive probably booted up the game thousands of time
Season 2 is gonna have Lucy and Cooper in the Mojave, I can feel it. With everything that Todd has been saying in interviews, and how season 1 ended, New Vegas and the NCR are gonna play a HUGE part in season 2.
i sure hope so , im not a fan how shady sands and ncr was handled in season 1 but i will say this at least shady sands is an important plot point and is even the origin of maximus that being said the ncr would continue to be a target of vault tec and ncr would like to have "some words" with them
The end of Season 1 makes that pretty explicit
I'm fascinated by clearly a return of the Brotherhood of Steel to Power on the West Coast. sounds like the East Coast took over leadership (from the highest authority in the Commonwealth), and came out west to help.
@@hengineer Given the East Coast looted all the Enclave goodies in DC and T60 stocks in the Commonwealth while the West got crushed by the NCR and was reduced to armored raiders in hiding, yeah, it shouldn't be surprising that the former would now be strong enough to call the shots. On top of being his own kind of badass, Maxson also has his name's legacy to go by.
All fun and games until they just go to the Commonwealth and continue the Institute storyline
The dad is Eric Estrada some may know him as "Ponch" Poncherello in the police drama television series CHiPs
yeah, a LA show too. good nod
oh wow i didnt reconize him nice catch!
He was also in cool cat saves the kids
congratulations Headless Ponch
This is an amazing echo of the first cover of Fallout 2, showing a Tribal wearing a defaced Brotherhood Helmet. When one society falls, another rises from the ashes.
Dude you get it. When I looked back at this scene, I realized that they probably scavenged that armor. I mean a gas mask with an air filter would be great in a desert and those dusters would keep the sun of their backs. Not to mention the helmets dont even fit the dad and they had to be held together by wires.
@@Doop_A_Derp One suit, sure, but two? More likely the mom and dad were both rangers who gave up the NCR after Shady Sands was destroyed.
I like to think Adam and his wife were NCR rangers, explaining how they have the armor.
Then his wife died and his son wears the mom's old uniform when they go out.
Of course now the daughter is gonna be the one wearing it when shes old enough.
Yeah not sure why people are saying their just scavengers. I think it's extremely obvious the old man is suppose to be an old ranger
New headcanon acquired.
In FO 1Desert Ranger were a different faction descendant of the Texas Ranger. They allies with NCR to fought Legions. If Bethesda and Nolan choose neither faction took Hoover Dam (status quo always the solution), there's a chance the Desert Ranger return to their original state, protecting Nevada and Arizona from raiders,etc.
The F1 desert rangers were based off of the desert rangers from Arizona in the wasteland series, so if you're wondering how they're doing, Colorado was a shit show lmao, dope game though
@@CaeridLock.U meant wasteland 2 rangers ? Yup is more harsh than vegas
Waited for this EVERY episode and they delivered such a great rendition of it! Just another casual W for the show!
0:45 this part of the theme never gets old.
My personal theory is that they want to give us an optimistic approach with the NCR. In fact, that maybe we'll get and NCR character arc, with a Courier-like character. Think about how they are making us think the NCR is dead, yet how the show portrays it as a good faction, compared to the BOS or Vault-tec. I imagine Todd and the team are purposefully weakening the NCR to make it do a comeback with a lone character that'll enter the show. This is especially true if NV canon ending is "The house always wins", where the NCR are pushed away, yet the Courier still remains near the Strip, leaving the possibility for a sort of "legacy" to be awakened after Shady Sand's bombing.
Or a mere fan service which very unfavorable
I do hope that NCR won't become some kind of "GOOD GUYS" in series, because they aren't supposed to be and it would only ruin the fun. But I would like to think that NCR would yes, make a comeback, and look like they're on good side, but then main characters would discover their taxes, lyings and corruption and would be kinda "meh, they're the same as others". Which would be amazing
@@stehouse Oh yes. And then a faction like the followers of the apocalypse comes by and "saves the day"
@@mpleandre it would be funny af if followers would come to aid NCR only to get obliterated in seconds
It‘s a losing game lol. If they appear in the sequel seasons idiot fanboys will proclaim victory that the „fan pressure won, bethesda is forced to reverse decisions“ or some shit because they have zero narrative foresight and media literacy.
I love the detail of the helmet and mask not being aligned correctly, with the screws to connect the two missing.
I honestly hated that, makes it look like a cheap halloween costume lol
@@PassTheSnails ok
That is a failure of costume design so on set they had to do their best to make it work for the scene. I hate it as well.
@@retrotechgames-diyrepair4691 I am pretty sure it is intentional….
@@retrotechgames-diyrepair4691 They're most definitely just settlers who found the armor probably lying somewhere (maybe on dead rangers) and are trying to use it to keep the sand and the dust off their face, they just dont know how to properly put it on, or its heavily damaged pieces
One thing I love about cinema is that orchestral music has been the standard for impactful and memorable film scores for nearly the entire existence of cinema.
People nitpicking about who these guys are are completely missing a beautifully shot, heavily atmospheric scene with a gorgeous, curiously uplifting rendition of the Fallout theme.
I wish they could show soldiers NCR in the next season
Imagine the legion in season 2
They were defending the Observatory in episode 8.
@@R3GARnatorI think he meant the ncr soldier armor we see in nv
Im guessing the ones at the observatory were probably not enlisted soldiers but just people who couldn’t let go of shady sands
@@abrahamlincolnreal8166i assumed they were survivors of shady sands, the ncr was probably weakened since that was one of their largest cities
@@R3GARnator volunteers/militia. Notice, none of them had an actual NCR uniform
I really love that scene, it makes my minds create a lot of stories behind them
I love how the main theme has basically become the NCR theme in the show
I gotta say, seeing this made me shed a tear. Like seeing a dear old friend after long, long time
I cried for this moment
They nailed it with the theme, it’s so moving!
It was so nice to hear more of the fallout 4 theme rearranged for this show
yall yapping about ncr rangers forgetting that the ncr ranger armor is pre war riot gear
Ya'll have no idea how happy I was hearing the main theme, and then seeing the scavengers wearing NCR armor. I got all teary eyed in the best way possible.
Fuck this scene made me emotional and just love the violin it's all calming and shit. We need to see more of the NCR ranger outfits like this in season 2. We need to see if they were part of the NCR rangers or how they got the outfits to begin with
The helmet throws me off so much like the rest of the outfit is flawless and the helmet is just so strange looking
War never changes
war has changed
When Barb Howard paused on the word war, I immediately knew she gonna say the line; AND SHE SAID THE LINE!!
When atomic fire consumed the earth, those who survived did so in great, underground vaults. When they opened, their inhabitants set out across ruins of the old world to build new societies, establish new villages, forming tribes.
As decades passed, what had been the American southwest united beneath the flag of the New California Republic, dedicated to old-world values of democracy and the rule of law.
As the Republic grew, so did its needs.Scouts spread east, seeking territory and wealth, in the dry and merciless expanse of the Mojave Desert.
Fallout theme only played whenever there was NCR on screen. I have a feeling (and hope) that they're gonna play a much bigger role in S2.
this looks like a typical player base in fallout 76 lol i love it
the first building they were scavenging around is the one i meant btw
If the father was ranger, in season 2 he might be return for vengeance for both of his sons.
Strange they're using the Fallout 3 & 4 music for moments that reflect the New California Republic. As far as I can recall, the only reference to the NCR was in Fallout 4 in Kellog's memories and that didn't feature this music. It's akin to seeing the original Star Trek series characters (Kirk, Spock etc.) entering the scene and the Star Trek Voyager theme begins to play.
Since New Vegas was done by the same composer who did Fallout 3 and 4's theme, I wonder why they didn't try using that game's theme in callback moments like this.
Probably because Todd Howard hates New Vegas.
rahhhh star trek mentioned
@@Captain_Matias_Torres Again with this dumb narrative lmao. If Todd hated New Vegas he would've petitioned against putting ANYTHING new vegas related in the show. It's clear you just have a hate b0ner
Todd Howard has a grudge against New Vegas. It’s the equivalent of “the favorite sibling”
@@Captain_Matias_Torres Lol, if Todd hated NV he never would've let anything NV related into the show in the first place and would've taken place in the east coast instead, but hey "bethesda bad obsidian good"
Also to completely kill this false narrative, here is everything the fans "claim" to be Todd's distaste for Obsidian (which at this point wouldn't even make sense since they're both part of the same company)
1) "Bethesda screwed Obsidian and only gave them 18 months!"
Routinely debunked by Chris Avellone (main writer of the New Vegas DLCs), who said that the team thought it was "fair" to make a game in 18 months considering the engine and most of the assets were already made. Of course, didn't turn out well at release because of the numerous technical issues.
Obsidian also had the habit of always picking extremely closed deadlines with their previous games. This wasn't some forced deadline and they could have easily asked for more time at the start if they fully looked at the scope of the programming, but they didn't. Still, they delivered one of my favourite games of all time.
2) "Bethesda screwed Obsidian with the paycheck because Metacritic gave the game an 84 instead of an 85"
Again, debunked by Chris Avellone, I will now proceed to give the quote completely his own words from Fallout Apocrypha (and if needed Twitter) as my source:
"The 'Metacritic bonus' if the game got above an 84 review score was something Bethesda offered above and beyond the New Vegas contract.
We didn’t ask for this, they offered it, and it was our responsibility to hit that review score. We did have to have layoffs at Obsidian around this time period, but the bonus from Metacritic wouldn’t have prevented that from happening."
Unless you have a severe lack of skill in reading comprehension, I think this is pretty self explanatory.
3) "Todd howard hates new vegas!!!"
There is quite literally no way I can debunk this, because people will believe what they want to. Todd has said in an IGN interview (IGN Unfiltered #43) that he thinks the guys at Obsidian did a fantastic job. The new vegas/interplan fanboys (not the regular fans, I'm talking about the obsessed ones) want to paint Todd out to be a monstrous entity that personally nuked their hometown or something (well I guess its sort of true lmao). I am not a fan of Todd's lies or his recent games, but to blame him as the center piece for obsidian and interplay's "fall out" (lol) is being ridiculous.
I am not a fan of current bethesda, but without them, Fallout would've died as an indie title (we wouldn't get the planned Van Buren game either) and we never would've gotten this show or new vegas for that matter.
What people don't seem to realise is that the Ranger armour is pre-war Riot gear. The Rangers aren't the only ones who use it but they are the most well known
Was not expecting Erik Estrada under that helmet lol
Seeing that ranger armor and hearing the music was a moment id thought id never see outside New Vegas. Thank you
Theme gets me bricked
The Father was a Ranger from NCR, the TV show occurs chronnologically in 2296, 15 years after the Second Hover Dan Battle.
Fallout fans watching fallout stuff in the fallout series:😮😮😮
Two prospectors walking around in some of the best armor you can get. Armor they have no business wearing, that they had incredible luck to scavenge.
This is a random encounter!
I cast my own bullets using lead I pull from the ground on public lands. It was neat to see that part of the reloading process portrayed in the show. The lead I dig out is usually on the surface, so I rarely actually dig.
I don’t think these guys are NCR rangers but rather people who looted dead ones, or broke into an armory. NCR isn’t dead, but it does look like anyone left in the Shady Sands area has been left to their fates while the rest of the NCR recuperates. Kind of like how the NCR (as well as the Legion) abandoned their soldiers in the Divide.
ncr most definitely not as present in los angelas area but probably still has territory around new vegas
@jaredwmac Yeah, the only NCR left in the LA area are remnants like Moldovers crew up at the Observatory. Cut off and not really part of the NCR at large any more, but still holding onto some of the gear and ideals
scavengers
@@alexlyster3459 i assume they relocated their capital to either Vault City, The Hub or New Reno. It did said that Shady sands was the first capital of the NCR so they probally changes their capital after New Vegas
I feel like it will be the main theme of session 2
Here and Vault 4 : Goosebumps!
Damn I LOVE this Show!! and Fallout 4 :3
looks good but ive seen a better build of the helmet on etsy
I think the slapdash nature is deliberately done to show these aren't actually NCR Rangers wearing them.
You're absolutely right, they did absolutely nail the T-45 though.
Yes. I think they either bought it online, or rented it from a cosplayer. It's cheaper than commissioning a company to make them from scratch.
And it shows how it doesn't fit the old guy.
It appears like the helmet looks off because it actually is off. You can see the spots where the helmet is supposed to connect to the mask are disconnected, causing the helmet to be misaligned and set back. This is meant to show that the scavengers aren't actually NCR rangers, and use the armor without really understanding how it works
As the other guy said, its is obviously done deliberately to spot non actual NCR rangers but a refrence :D
We need this theme by itself as an ost or score
I have a feeling we will be seeing this ex NCR Ranger again in season 2 on a revenge hunt.
i think he is a former NCR ranger, and after shady sands was got nuked he just become ordinary suffice dweller. but why fallout theme show up every time they show NCR?
And be such pussy ? Real veteran ranger never would let this stinky ghoul suprise himself.
you did watch the end screen for ep8?
Nah, the guy looked helpless in the face of the Ghoul. No NCR veteran ranger would be caught so flat-footed and be so entirely harmless.
because long live the NCR
probably setting up NCR as a major faction for the west coast
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Enclave here, why isn't Shady Sands's video feed working? Try the gain.
This made fallout fans so happy.
I'm not gonna lie they got me with this scene, I 100% soyfaced when this happened
We won't go quietly. The legion can count on that
The legion probably dissolved after Caesar's and lanius' deaths, they aren't a problem anymore, even if the legion ending was canon the legion still wouldn't exist after some decades.
man this comment section really proving that fallout fans have the most surface level understanding of literally anything in front of them and the method of "show-don't tell" is a completely foreign concept
Media literacy is dead.
Thank bethesda for that
@@aselliofacchio yeah cause Bethesda is all to blame, all hail mighty Obsidian, even though Outer World is shit
Still better than the grind and cash grab that is 76 Atomic Shop. Some people really like shit gloated over their throat with dad's credit card @@bunnitomoe3866
very cool!
Such a tease when saw the helmet.
Then realised he was probably a ranger till he started a family and the plot of the tv series interfered.
Honestly, this makes me sad thinking about how often we probably kill guys like that in Fallout, either intentionally or even by accident.
I’d be genuinely embarrassed wearing this costume, it looks cheaper than cosplay
I mean it's not a bad thing for it to look beaten and destroyed... They're no rangers and they most likely looted corpses around Shady sands
@@donduseigneurpsaume915he’s more than likely talking about how weird the helmets look. They sit way too high above the mask. It’s actually quite glaring.
Yeh. Rhe face of the healmet never had a forehead@@zacharymccants77
@@zacharymccants77 The helmets are damaged. You can see that it's missing the bolts which usually connect the helmet to the faceplate. You can even slightly see into the guy's head on the inside. They designed it to intentionally look that way.
The whole series looks cheaper than cosplay and fancfic
We gotta be happy that these clothes in live action are shown.
NCR ARMOUR !
The Fallout motif was nice to hear
nah it's a courier himself
If it was the courier than the ghoul would never have been able to leave that house ..
No, I don't think so. Maybe Lucy's father, but I don't have anything to back it up other than that he seems too cool/used to the outside world for only being there a short time.
It seems that a lot of people forgot how the NCR worked. This armor didn't belong to solely the NCR, it belonged to the Desert Rangers of Nevada and Arizona, who themselves were a splinter of the Texas Rangers. They based themselves in the Mojave and upon coming in to contact with the NCR they decided to join forces commemorating the Unification Monument you see in game. Just because Shady Sands is gone doesn't mean the NCR is dead, there's still a republic, its just not entirely Californian centered anymore.
NV fans will see this and think Bethesda hates their game
You'd think New Vegas fans would be happy about this fanservice, but for some reason they complain about it.
@@marcuscain1377 because this is the lowest bar of expectation we could of ever got from a fallout TV show, I'm honestly more of a fallout 3 fan then new vegas so I'm really not nitpicky about a lot of that stuff but even without talking about the NV stuff the show is just so heavily romanticized with itself it feels like a marvel movie and not in a good way.
imagine if we see victor in the new season as a new friend of Lucy
I really loved the show, I just wish the ncr outfit didn’t look like it came from the spirit halloween store. Some guy on reddit pulled off a way more realistic cosplay
I was flipping out not only they were playing fallout 4 music but they had freaking ranger outfits on, the sickest outfits in the Mojave
Why’d they make the helmets look so awful😂
It's kinda weird because one of them looks a lot better than the other, but the one with the close up is the one that looks worse
Seems like the helmet and mask are separated by the lack of whatever those 2 holes on the sides hold, both the helmet and mask have those holes, they are not connected correctly and the helmet falls due to that.
The helmets might have been damaged.
@@bruhgod123 No they aren’t, shut up.
@@bruhgod123 at that point then don't wear them. Don't cope
Why is there so many people ripping on the idea of these two scavengers having those suits?
The NCR didn’t even freaking make the elite Ranger armor.
They’re specialized prewar riot suits that were scavenged from police stations in the Boneyard by the NCR, they were just assigned to the elite Rangers because it was the best gear the NCR had at its disposal short of Power Armor.
These guys could have gotten those suits from literally anywhere other than a dead NCR ranger.
that was a whole lot of yapping that made no sense lol
@@thegooseshow2691I'll make it simple for you to understand: cool armor isn't created by NCR, but found in police stations, so scavengers found it from there and not by killing cool NCR guy
That ranger armor looks 100x worse than the one in red star.
Watching the Amazon TVshow almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Rnc rip
OMG! The RNC from the hit game Fellout?!
What???
While I do like how faithful the Ranger armor is, the helmet looks a little iffy makes the gasmask have big foreheard.
Why tf are these randoms dressed like rangers
Same reason why most players of NV use the armor, because it looks cool
Yes because no one scavenges armour in fallout 🤡
Isn't this armor just pre-war police riot gear? Doesn't have to be related to rangers at all. If courier from New Vegas could wear those, anyone can.
It's heavily implied that the dad was a former veteran ranger, the Ghoul even mentions 'Some lead still being in him' from their last meeting, so clearly he was skilled enough to survive meeting the Ghoul, which in the show, is not a luxury many get.
You gonna throw away armour?
Huh, guess this really is the fallout of the apocalypse. The fallout, New Vegas.
I think they shouldn't have done this. I dunno what they were thinking that they have to cocktease the NCR or even reference a dubious date that is very important to the events and flow of one of the most popular game in the series. But it kinda does mix signals as to what they're implying with the lore.
You either go big or go home, and if they're not even planning on handling NCR in the first place it's best to just leave it well enough alone so that people won't question what they wanna do. Or just say "yeah they moved somewhere"
@@GAEULsbn That's not a problem to me, since at least it explains why nothing was ever retconned. Although I'm a little concerned with the fact they said they will not handle New Vegas in a massive way but pull stuff like this. If they are gonna handle it, fine, let's see where it goes, but they said they're gonna leave it alone, so I'm a little confused.
I don't really equate NCR as destroyed just because Shady Sands got bonked, it just wouldn't make sense since NCR is pretty big, for them to even kick BoS out of the West coast in the first place.
@@GAEULsbn Just from the stuff going around, and yeah of course the games are canon, honestly more reason for me to be skeptical. I don't trust Todd and Bethesda in general to do the West coast justice. But we'll see...
For just a small moment I thought this was Fallout Red Star. If you know then god bless you.
Fall out 4 is still the best.
It's just so touching when hearing while looking at the power armor in the menu.
fallout 4 worst fucking fallout.
@@rustincohle2441 Did you forget about 76 or Tactics
Brain dead take.
>Fallout 4 is the best
See had you added "in my opinion", it would've just been a simple disagreement but now you've gained bad karma and reputation
- A guy who's first and only Fallout game is 4
the scene of the ghoul eating was perfect.
Fallout 4 theme* bruh lol
Fallout 3 and 4 have this melody in their themes. Fallout 4 has more violin in it which makes it sound more similar to this. But eventually this is the fallout theme and that's why I put that title
Thats the Fallout Franchise Main Theme. Jesus, even the melody appears in New Vegas. Really tired of these "fans"
@@Rangure02 sorry chico I tried to find that melody on Spotify or YT but haven't find it yet. Could you please share?
@@mr.enclave.member sound?
@@eltapa98sound?
Never played the game before watching the show, all I thought when those two guys came on screen was: "huh....I don't know why but those masks seem unnecessarily noticeable" didn't even occur to me it was a direct reference 😂💀
The NCR isn’t gone guys.
The whole issue with the NCR in New Vegas was that they were spread too thin. There’s more out there. We just lost Shady Sands but there’s plenty more wasteland out there.
who cares about the NCR. why the FUCK are they smelting caps???
their trying to do the blacksmithing exp glitch from skyrim
Did you even listen? It's lead.
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I really thought that was courier 6 for a moment I hope the courier is going to be in fallout season 2
Yeah Bethesda probably will put his skeleton and some character pissing on it, because they love and respect new vegas 😂
first time i saw this scene i could only think about nuka break and red star lol
how is there no ost or score for this version of the theme available other than this video
I like to imagine the reason why the ranger helmet has a forehead is because the dude is retired and just got fat enough to the point it pushes the mask out from the helmet
like that we actually get to see what people use caps for in fallout
People gonna come in here and claim this is exactly the same as the FO4 theme because it says so in the Amazon x-ray.
Kind of hoped that it would be Wanderer. But then again, I appreciate the Courier’s helmet enough to let it slide.
That's not the courier's helmet, that isn't even the rangers helmet, that's a pre war riot police helmet.
Wow the strings ✨👌
This is just like when they made the Halo show and they were able to use their iconic music in the first season... oh wait