WHY I DON'T WANT TO BE A SURGEON
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2018
- Hi everyone! So for those following me a long time know that at one point in my medical career, I thought I might have wanted to become a surgeon. I think everyone goes through that phase. For some, IT IS actually what they wanted to do. But for me, that would have been such a horrible decision. At least with OB, even though you're doing the same type of surgery, the result is different every time (talking about the kids) and you get to see the children grow and one day even deliver their children.
So what are your thoughts. I'd love to hear them.
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Yessss please do a side-by-side comparison of medical shows and the reality of medicine! For people like me do not have surgeon/doctor family members, the tv shows can sometimes be all we have to look at until we gain real clinical experience. Thank you!
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Or you can do your own research?
Have you ever considered jaw surgery?
Hi Jenny! Absolutely love your videos. I want to be a surgeon because I love the hands-on work, the immediate satisfaction that comes with removing a tumor and telling your patient that they're cancer free, and I love the fact that in surgery you're caring for your patients at their most vulnerable times. You're there on their worst day of their life and you have the potential to make the next, their best day. I also love the challenge of surgery, from the deep knowledge required to the fine dexterity that is needed to be a great surgeon. :)
Same here, I love how in surgery you feel like you really made something out of your day, and I like the hands on aspect I feel like it's really satisfying.
I too feel the same way. I still have a long way to go but I’m very excited about it.
The good doctor is soo good!!
Love your viewpoint on this! I'm in the process of finishing PA school and figuring out what I want to do on my first job. This helped me frame my experiences in my rotations. Thanks for making videos!
Hello Jenny, you're such an inspiration to me me love your vlogs, always can't wait to see your face even though I am now applying to college your vlogs give me the motivation to persue my dreams in medicine.
I am in Med school and I finished my Surgery Rotation last December. I really loved it)) Everyday I wanted to be there and I thought that I want to be a Surgeon. But I don't know if it's because of the people I worked with or the surgery itself. Because I felt the same with Cardiology, Pediatric surgery and Family Medicine Rotations. I agree with your thoughts. Now it feels like I can do whatever I want but thinking about the future and family I don't think I want to be a Surgeon. I am constantly changing my mind. God knows what I will come up with by the time I finish Med School)
what did you end up pursuing
The field of General Surgery is an incredibly diverse specialty with many options to go into. Obviously, like all the other specialties, the residencies are always a pain because of the lack of time and such, but once you have finished your general surgery residency, you have options! Not only that, there are general surgeons who specialize in breast surgery, or stomach surgery, etc and they don't even need a specialty because that is what they want to work with. But in regards of doing the same procedure over and over again, there are some specialties that, in my opinion, don't have that problem, the most versatile branch of surgery I can think of right now is trauma surgery, if you don't want dangerous surgery, go into plastics! If you want to have a long lasting relationships with patiens, consider being a neurosurgeon or a surgical oncologist, also, if you want to have the time for travel or have family, you can consider having a private practice of a specialty you love and know you can handle and make your own schedule.
Basically, what I'm saying is that there is something for everyone out there, the only decision you have to take right now is, do you want to work with your hands and see results immediately , or do you want to work with your head and figure things out?
It doesn't matter if your a general doctor (internal medicine, family medicine, etc) or a surgeon, a general doctor will always use their hands and a surgeon will always have to use their head.
Jenny, I am so glad you posted this video! I'm starting medical school this fall and I feel like everyone I'm surrounded by is in love with surgery. I think it's interesting, but I know there are so many other awesome areas of medicine! Personally, I have an interest in pediatrics and rheumatology, but I'm so open to whatever I experience in medical school. Thank you for posting a very real, honest viewpoint!
Congratulations on med school!! Enjoy your summer. Don’t study!
My mature self now realizes that I never actually want to be a surgeon because of what they do. It’s because of the name they have in the public, their fame of being a genius. Now being more realistic, ER is probably where I’m going. And it’s almost for all the same reasons you mentioned. Thanks for giving me another perspective on this subject. Good luck in your future!
I’ve ended my journey to Med school and decided Nursing was better for me, but it’s really awesome seeing you learn and grow and step into your truth.
I want to become a surgeon (specifically cardiothoracic or heart transplant) because 1) the heart is the greatest organ in the body in my opinion 2) i love doing things with my hands everyday 3) knowing that i went to work and made an impact on someone’s life 4) performing life changing procedures and 5) knowing that i did a life saving procedure. i will never get tired of it and the routine is honestly comforting. also, different families never get boring. it’s actually really funny. especially the team you work with.
I’m a 3rd year medical student and I’m in the same boat. Thank you for giving your perspective on this. Very helpful!
I am currently in my surgery rotation and I originally thought there wasn’t much patient interactions, which is a down fall for me, but I am realizing they do have a decent amount of patient interaction. BUT still not enough. I agree exactly with what you are saying because that’s how I feel!
I’m a first year, but I worked 4 years in med/Surge. I loved that atmosphere and patient population. Then I did a masters in anatomy and realized how much I love dissection, how anatomy in general is more than a fun subject, it’s a passion for me. I honestly think if I couldn’t get into surgery I would seriously consider becoming an anatomy professor. I also prefer the patient population of people dealing with major life-threatening illness.
Not to poo-poo family med, but my experience with it is consistently boring and tedious. I don’t find seeing a patient a couple of times a year for ten minutes each is nearly as meaningful as opening them up and saving their life. For me the continuity and kinship I crave is found with my co-workers, the nurses and PAs and techs. The surgeons I worked with were like family to me, and I think because it’s such a stressful atmosphere you’re forced to support each other on that level. So yeah, I love surgery. I’m dead set on it. I find it highly unlikely that I will change my mind, but board scores will be my big hurtle.
Wow bravo! I volunteer in med/surge before going to medical school and that was the absolute worse experience for me. Clean poop all day!
I think what everyone believes that as a surgeon you saved lives. But the patient population who comes to you with to fix a hernia, they are not immediately dying. Some may not even need to get that hernia fix. And once you as the surgeon fixes it, the patient might suffer from chronic pain for the rest of their life. I personally feel that being a surgeon is over glorified. The family medicine physician is actually the one saving lives when they get people to quit smoking and live a healthier lifestyle. Just my opinion.
Yep, I was a PCT so I did all the grunt work (so. much. poop.), but I did home health and hospice care for 4 years before that, so med/surge was a step up in terms of poop exposure. I'll give that many surgeries are elective and some cause more harm than good. I would say that for the ten hernias you did, I feel the ruptured appy makes it totally worth it. I also worked a summer in a plastic surgery center and it was 100% elective, but again, the dissection and anatomy is beyond satisfying. I also agree that PCPs save lives, but I personally don't enjoy that atmosphere. If I do end up scrambling into FM, I would definitely push to become a hospitalist or something because at the very least being in the hospital is one of my biggest draws to healthcare. Even after 4 years of being elbow deep in poop, I always saw that place as Emerald City. The fact that two floors below I knew babies were coming into this world, while 3 floors below that in the ICU families were bidding farewell to loved ones would just blow my mind every. single. day...
GPs don't do fuckall, at least mine doesn't. She is totally useless. And now, they have a new doctor around to help out, she's young and she's even more clueless than my current GP. I've always thought of being a GP as by far the easiest route you could take as a doctor, but I don't work in medicine so I'm just looking from the outside in.
@@drjennale wow! the way you think is amazing. you have a different perspective of looking at things.
Your videos are so helpful :) I'm beginning med school in the fall so it's good to know the good and the bad of this medical journey! Also, your son is so cute! I totally feel you with the continuity of care. I love talking to people and I want to develop some type of relationship with my patients.
Congratulations! And don’t study before school starts! Just enjoy your summer
I want to do surgery. A lot of people think with surgery you can't have a planned schedule but I know an surgeon who does sugary on tuesday and Thursday and clinic on monday and Wednesday and off Fridays. I love being hands on and in the mess of things and finding the problem and fixing it. I love gross anatomy. I can go without having much patent contact.
Casey Hackel well said. i feel the same way!!!
All surgeons I’ve been with only had 2 surgery days as well. But they all had to take call - which means come in to do surgery when something is urgent. That’s the part that really messes with your schedule because you can’t plan for a trauma
Casey Hackel gynecology surgeon and oncology surgeon usually have very fixed schedules 😊
I also want to do surgery loool, Some people always think that med students want to become surgeons because of that high end pay but in reality, its hella fun, Especially Orthopedic surgery where surgeons just fix bones with instruments and shit, but what the hell, Toenail and thumb removal is a surgery that i can't even watch lool i cringe sooo hard. but all others surgery fine to me lool
Trauma surgeon is a superman but on steroids, Expect a call at anytime lool.
Hey Jenny! I love your videos! Thank you for being such an inspiration and keeping it real :) I’m still deciding between pre med and nursing. I did consider becoming a surgeon at one point but there isn’t really a lot of patient contact.
definitely resonated with your reasons for not pursuing surgery. I'm a premed student and family medicine is something I'm truly interested in because of the bonds you form with your patients!
Thank you for sharing so much of your story! What specialties would you consider more lifestyle friendly? I'm a premed doing a gap year and I've been thankful to have this time to myself and ask more questions. I've been debating between pursuing PA school and medical school (with specialties like psych, fam med, and pm&r in the forefront) because I want to have enough time to spend with my family. Now that you're in residency is there ever a part of that thinks becoming a PA would have accomodated your lifestyle better? And is it possible for you to discuss what features make being in family medicine lifestyle friendly?
I love your vlog I am a nurse in the military and a pre-med student also I am currently 37wks pregnant and completing the last of my prerequisites your videos give me so much inspiration to keep going thanks for sharing your life and experiences it is appreciated I shadow a lot of providers who are surgeons or work in IM, FH, and Anesthesia I agree with a lot you had to say and you should follow the path that is best for you and keeps you engaged in the aspects of health care that you love.
I agree with you and I want that continuity of care as well. I also love being in the hospital and in surgery. I’m also very passionate about women’s health and that’s why I’m leaning toward OBGYN! I still have a couple years to decide but I’ve always felt led toward OBGYN. I’m currently an OMS I
I feel so related to this post! I have been working in surgery for two years (I wanted to do plastic surgery) but after the common trunc I decided to stop surgery and work as a GP..I didn t have much of a life back then, had to cancel so many things, friends didn t understand, friends i ve lost, didn t operate much on my own, felt like investing myself so much into this job but not moving foreward..then i thought where do you see yourself in a few years? do you wanna continue like that? if i think about it now, i loved my co workers but the job itself..it didn t mean enough to me after all..now sometimes I still feel like i ve given up to soon but on the other hand my quality of life improved 100000%..it is not an easy choice..
Omg I can totally relate! Only I’m going through the Nursing field and had to decide on PA vs NP and I feel like as a FNP I’ll be able to actually establish a closer connection with the patients and people I care for
I'm only a high schooler so I'm not trying to tie myself down. But I am so fascinated by the brain neurosurgery is high up there. I'm going to wait till I'm older and see what rotations I like but the brain is really calling me. I want to be able to raise a family so I don't want to go into surgery for that aspect. But I don't want to knock it till I try it. I know I want to be as hands on as possible. Love this video, extremely informative.
I can’t even believe it!!! Literally want to be you when I grow up (I’m 13) I wanna be a surgeon really bad and I love watching your videos and seeing all the things you do!!
I am new to your channel. Props to you. I work with about 900 physicians. I am a UM/UR nurse currently and despised by most of the physicians (well the crappy ones). I have been a hospital nurse for 16 years including ICU, Case Management, Manager and Director. I only know four happy surgeons out of about 57 in the surgery department. That is not a good thing. I stepped back from management a coup,e of years ago... don’t just be a doctor, this is a career maybe a job most definitely. Work to live don’t live to work, I was 46 before I figured that out. I don’t regret leaving management and won’t sacrifice my family or myself to be that guy. Glad you assessed what is important to you as you start your medical career instead of breaking thing and having to repair it. In the end you won’t regret spending time with you husband and child over working more.
Hi Jenny! My name is Joe. Im a forth year in college, and I'm debating doing medical school or PS school. I just want to let you I love how honest and open you are in these videos! I've been watching so many, and they help so much!
I originally wanted to be a surgeon. But realized that I'll be in my early 50's by the time im done with everything. Also I'll be drowning in student loans. So I have settled on operating room nurse. I'll be 42 when Im done with my BSN. I also want my MSN, but that's later on down the road.
Jenny, you are and will continue to be a great family doctor because you are compassionate. Its so noticeable. Keep that.
You are so inspirational, Jenny! Love your vlogs and babyyyyyy ^_^
Jenny- I stumbled onto your page and I wanted to post my opinion.
I’m currently a chief resident in gen surg, going into trauma/critical care. I think what you’re saying has a lot of validity but the reality is that all of medicine has a lot of sacrifice. In terms of continuity, I’ve loved seeing trauma patients recoup and come back to our clinics. Pediatric surgery follows patients well into their early 20s- sometimes longer. Bariatrics does an amazing job of pre and post operative care-throughout their weight loss journeys.
I think a lot of the concerns you’ve raised are about medical education as a whole- not just surgical training. It’s (residency in general) a difficult process and the reward is difficult to find when you’re in the midst.
Surgery is great but it’s not for everyone. It comes down to hours, aptitude and what you enjoy. As doctors, we ALL engage, interact with and follow up with our patients-just something to keep in mind.
Thanks for your content-
The biggest thing stopping me from applying to medical school is that I feel like I wont have enough time for my family and all the debt I'll accrue and time/effort Ill spend wont be worth it because I'll basically be shunning my family all the time for work. Do you feel that's actually the case with being a doctor (regardless of specialty) or have you been able to have a decent work-life balance in your experience? If possible could you please do a Q&A based on the topic of work life balance? That could really help shape my decision because as of now I have no one else to really seek answers from. Wishing you and your family well ❤
Look into PA school!
PA school is definitely a great alternative that I've considered, though they do have additional requirements that many premeds lack upon graduation, which is the case for me. Taking prereq classes and making up the clinical hours would take me quite a while and I'm planning on applying to grad schools this year, and applying PA next year if med school/other options don't work out.
Alyson C I too have same thoughts. What's your view on PhD vs Md.
I’m in pharmacy school currently and the realities of it are very similar to your fears of medical school. Endless hours of studying, not seeing family or friends (that don’t go to school with you), lots of loans. What it really comes down to is if you really want it. At the end of the day, the money and the title aren’t going to make you happy at all. There’s a lot of people in my class that went into pharmacy for the wrong reasons and now they hate it. If it’s something you’re passionate about and are okay with making 4-8 years of your life not as great then you should do it.
pharmakon rx I never really considered doing a phd, mostly because doctorate student usually end up working in a lab or teaching, both of which have never really appealed to me. Obviously, a phd student has a range of options in term of what industry they can find work in (pharma, CDC, even tech) but you'll find that your day to day activities will mostly be spent in a lab if you choose to apply to any of the above fields. If research is something you're interested in I would definitely keep it in your list of options. All the phds I know are from my university and have a pretty great work-life balance. You should definitely talk to some people who have a phd though, find out what the hardest part about it was, what they do on a day-to-day basis, would they go back and do something else, what are things they wish someone told them. Before you decide on anything make sure to do ample research and talk to as many people as you can, it may be a little tedious but itll pay off going into a field knowing everything there is to know. Wishing you the best of luck on your decision ☺
Hi Jenny, i'm a new subscriber and I love your videos, it's very interesting and informative. I'm in high school right now and i've been thinking of becoming a doctor for a while now and i have been deciding between becoming an dermatologist or an orthopedic surgeon. Your videos are very helpful on what life would be like as an doctor, thank you very much!
This is so cute and inspirational. I have two kids and a baby 11 months :) and I am thinking about going back to college. Each semester I come up with an excuse not to go back, but watching these gets me into prospective and I realize life is about sacrifice and those sacrifices have their good outcome.
Wow, I completely agree. Surgery is really cool, but a real patient connection is so much more important to me
I'm just like you, I want to have continuity of care. I'm in my M2 now, getting closer and closer to Step 1 😭 But for me, I want to work with the API community, and I think for me to help achieve better health equity for our community, I want to be there for them. To be at the forefront of our patients' lives and help them attain the best care possible is something I want to do.
But you know, I also feel like I can't decide just yet, so here's to hopefully finding out what I wanna do when I start clinicals as an M3/M4. I love everything that I can't decide 🙃🙃🙃🙃
I think in every field of medicine, you meet people who share a common trait or belief and the more specialized you go, the more specific these traits or beliefs become.
As a neurosurgical resident, yes, the hours do suck but it is definitely the field for me. I love working hands on and yeah, there are times when the only surgeries you do are aneurysm clippings and whatnot (which are still high risk- but nothing compared to rare surgeries like a hemispherectomy), but I love the adrenaline from being in the OR and concentrating on a single thing for hours on end. Its hard to explain exactly what it is but to me, somehow it feels purposeful. I was also a math pre-med in undergrad and for the same reason that math attracted me, surgery does too, and thats being able to work on a single problem for hours, or even days, on end. This, coupled with an obsessive personality. Like math, there might not necessarily be any human interaction but its comforting to work in the background and be of help by utilizing my strengths which are problem solving and mechanical aptitude. To put it simply, I love solving puzzles and the human brain is possibly one of the greatest puzzles in the universe. I'm not someone who naturally knows how to comfort people so I let others do it for me and I try the best I can to help others. I think many medical researchers who seldom have any patient contact are the same way. It really depends on who you are- some people need to have that direct patient-doctor contact in order for their work to be meaningful and others might not so much. I don't speak for every surgeon, however. This is just my personal input. :)
Hey! I’m a 3rd year med students (6 years of med school here) and there is no such thing as rotations here. We have classes in different specialties but that’s it. You can voluntarily do a rotation but I noticed I always choose similar things (in Surgery lol) and maybe there is a speciality out there I don’t even think about! I wanted to do surgery since I wanted to be a doctor- so I’m not ready to give that thought up (pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon)
In FM you can also be certified to do colonoscopy and other small surgeries right?
I am also curious about EM/FM residencies and FM/NMM residencies. Why do them if as FM you can moonlight in the ED and you can do OMM.
One more thing. I am curious if NMM/OMM specialists can be primary care. I saw a PowerPoint that said it's possible but had no explanation and haven't been able to find info on that.
I have a huge passion for medicine, I knew I wanted to work in the medical field since I was an elementary. It hasn’t changed since then, but working as a CNA and an EMS it has killed my joy for patient contact. Health and medical is still my passion and I don’t think it will ever change. I shadow a surgical nurse before I made my choice to become a surgen. I honestly think that surgery would be for me. I am good with hands on projects. If I only see a person once I am good with that. Lol. You will make a good general doctor. We need more people like you as general doctors. It makes easier going to the doctor. Lol I love your videos and I talk about them with my husband all the time. Lol
I'm in hem/onc now and I'm loving the relationships we get to have with our patients, I am fascinated by the pathology we deal with, but I want to offer more than chemotherapy to them while managing their symptoms, I want to deal with the same patients from the surgical side. That's why I'm tHinking of switching to general surgery after I complete a year of onc. Surgeons are not just butchers, their opinion is valued a lot in tumour boards. Cancer is a team sport and I just want to change my position from midfield to striker while still playing for the same team. Plus, I don't feel bright enough for all those nuanced details in internal medicine. I would very much like for things to be straight forward.
I like your vlogs!😃 Right now I'm in between nursing and becoming a doctor. Which one would you suggest Jenny?
I spoke with a lot of residents and I kind of found the middle medium where people do internal medicine then choose a specialty and then do a fellowship so they can have a procedure they do like stints in heart or a very specific lung surgery. They have a range of flexibility bc they have internal medicine and their specialty and their procedure.
Yes, I have had the same conversations. As a surgeon, you don’t do as much medicine ... because you’re a surgeon. So for those who want medicine and procedures, they choose IM because they can do a fellowship in example cardiology, pulmonology, GI. People also choose ER for the procedures.
I'm a pre med and I would love to do trauma surgery. I'm very fine with limited patient contact but as a trauma surgeon you get to see so many different people instead of the routine patients as a family doctor. I love the adrenaline of it , and I'm very hands and I love to find and fix things. the hours are fine with me but I don't plan on having kids. I think it would be hard having kids and doing surgery.
Skye Halsey idk most trauma surgeons see the same thing, major artery or deep
vein gun shot wounds or stabs deep lacerations and intrabdominal or thoracic bleeds, that literally all. I mean the approach to these things probably differ from time to time as every gun shot wound is different I suppose, but the basics are the same and the protocol would be the same. Emergency medicine seems like a better fit for someone who wants a huge scope as they see literally everything to admit. Then there is critical care medicine which is a league in its on. You should check out the differences in acute and critical specialties i.e trauma surgery, emergency medicine, and critical care medicine and see where you fall, all are adrenaline rush but the foundations are different.
Trauma surgery would be the best. Doing that, you can honestly say you are helping people---not just giving them unnecessary procedures and getting them hooked on life long drugs.
This is exactly what I wanna do! Im not even in college yet so I might change my mind (I mean I wanted to be a pathologist when I decided to become a doctor. Now Im interested in the exact opposite). Im interested in the immediate life saving type of stuff and working on severely injured patients seems to fit that pretty well. I like to work hands on and I also do NOT want kids haha. Also, good luck on your pre med/future medical journey!
these videos are a blessing
I just got done with an intense shadowing experience under a pediatric surgeon. The experience was unforgettable for the best, yet I too do not want to pursue surgery because of the experience. Thanks for sharing!
Love your sitdown vlogs :). I pretty much agree with you on this one, even through the system is bit different in my country (we don't have NPs or PAs). Its probably naive of me, but I would like to know my patients at least a bit, so I would like to be GP one day (don't mind doing "boring stuff"). I am still a first year so maybe I will change my mind.
You bring up great points.....
I’ll be in medical school this upcoming fall, and even 2 years ago I’ve always thought I’d be a surgeon. But recently I’ve been realizing that it’s deeeeefinitely not for me haha. Going into primary care is the thing I think is best for me based on shadowing experiences and just gaining knowledge from youtubers like you! Surgery isn’t for everyone, and it seems every premed thinks that they are cut out for it. I just think it’s a lack of information/knowledge about the field kind of thing and that fact that it’s so glamourized
Im just a 15-year-old boy that wants to be an orthopedic surgeon. I wanna do surgery because i will feel great helping other people walk,run,jump normally. Also keeping in mind that it pays off relly well.
After switching between specialties my advice would be do what YOU really want to do for YOU. Not for you mom, dad, sibiling, spouse, neighbour, high school friend, trying to prove something to someone... also a reminder, working night shifts consistently is a carcinogen. You don't have to be a martyr to be of help for others. My two unbiased cents 😆
Would you ever work as a hospitalist as a family medicine doc? Or only out patient?
I'm considering to be a surgical P.A. I like the fact that I will learn more than an average P.A would know because I might be assissting surgeon with surgery. I also like that's it's a hands on job.
I want to become a plastic surgeon!! I've always had such an interest in the aesthetic aspect of the medical field. I am not interested at all in general surgery though. I am worried about spending time with my husband and 3 month old baby. I haven't started college yet, but am planning to go into music for my bachelor's, including all the necessary classes for med school, and then apply for med school. I do worry about how hard it's going to be, but I've been thinking about it for years, and I keep coming back to it.
Can you do a video on the pros of being a doctor because all the RUclips videos I've seen they all talk down on their own professions (possibly unconsciously) but it is really upsetting for an aspiring physician of the same type and specialty as you so I feel you could give me the best insight
What do you think about colorectal surgeons? I’m thinking about that field because their schedules are mostly in clinic and at the clinic doing colonoscopies
im a doctor and i ve OCD i ve extreme fear of needles so everytym i see one i doubt if i pricked myself so im really worried and scared that how am i gonna do my residency.. its so tough!
Wow I really needed this video ☺️
Thank you for watching ❤️
I wanted to be a surgeon because I really like doing something that’s physical and I can really get my hands on. Since I was young I’ve been learning piano and ballet and I think both of them are something very physical and you have to spent a long time doing the same parts over and over again to achieve what you wanted. So I feel like surgeons is some how similar and the satisfaction you get at the end of the surgery is the best just like you’ve mastered a piano piece. Sorry I’m not really good at express my thoughts😂
Thanks for your opinion on this really helpfull thanks
Please keep do more of this opiniated talks on these topics
loved the video!:) &what lashes do you have on??
I can’t believe you went to PNWU!! I’m going to CWU right now and I want to go there so bad! Thank you for being such an inspiration!
Hey Jenny, I'm a high school student that's inspiring to become a surgeon. Being able to cut someone open, fix whatever issue they have, and then see them leave much more lively and healthier than when they came in is something that both intrigues and excites me. However, the comment you made about not getting a lot of patient interaction as a surgeon has really put me off. I am a person who craves interaction but at the same time is fascinated by surgery, so is it possible as a surgeon to have this patient-physician interaction that I so crave or, beacuse of a surgeons busy schedule, is it unrealistic?
I think this depends on the type of surgeon you become. Plastic surgeons have more continuity suppose
Well for a lot of the surgeries you will have the patients will be under anesthesia... minor surgeries yes you will be able to interact with them and they are called day surgeries. I never wanted to be an OR nurse because of the lack of patient/doctor interaction. I have seen a surgeon being disrespectful to a patient ( waved a patient’s arm around and made a ghost noise which was intended to lighten up the mood since I was a student... didn’t work btw)
This is one of the main reasons I am applying to Physician's Assistant programs instead of medical school. I've gotten exposure to a few specialities, and I don't think I'm the type of person who can commit to one specialty for the rest of my life. I currently work in the ED, and love all the procedures that PA's are able to perform. But at the same time, I'm very interested in Inpatient/Hospitalist medicine as well!
thats one of the reasons im leaning towards being a pa because i would love to do many different specialty in my careers. i hope you get into pa school and you are successful in your career
same here! the PA path is so much more flexible and I feel I'll be able to do everything that is important to me in terms of patient care! good luck to you :)
I been wanting to go to medical school since middle school. I recently learned about Physician Assistant programs my last year in college and now I have no clue what decision what route I want to go.
You're such an inspiration for me ..ur videos encouraged me to go to college as a pre-med and chase my dream of becoming a doctor ..keep up the good work 💪
That’s amazing. Keep chasing your dreams 😍
U have no idea how life changing ur videos were for me ..ure by far my favorite youtuber
Awwww TYSM ❤️
I like how much difference surgery can make for patients in such short amount of time 😊
I guess that difference can be good or bad. I’ve also seen people who suffer from chronic pain after surgery.
agreed...surgery is not usually that simple. maybe for removing tonsils or doing a knee replacement on a healthy person it is. but most patients are very complex with many comorbidities and it's not as simple as fixing them and sending them out good as new. it's just that surgeons only see part of the picture...and then someone else manages the patient with all of the other complexities of their health, social situation, etc.
I shadowed a general surgeon and absolutely loved her work but I'm not sure about the time commitment. I'm excited for med school when I'll see more of the different specialties and narrow it down :)
I've wanted to be a surgeon since I was in 4th grade...discovered what type as I got older. I committed to the idea of not wanting kids when I was in middle school...my dude explicitly stated not to long ago he wants 4 in the future and I'm just tryna figure out who he thinks is going to have them. Lol, its incredibly hard to be a surgeon and have kids, but its my dream career so I guess I have to see what the future holds...
I did my RN OR rotation with a fantastic general surgeon. He brought me in and had me to his left scrubbed in on a laproscopic (bread/butter) cholecystectomy. He was so informative, and had me hands on (moving camera). I asked him after how he feels about his job. And he said there is no job more rewarding than medicine. In hindsight, I don't know if that was a blanket say-all to medicine as a whole or surgery, lol.
But from what I gather, even from surgeons who do enjoy what they do, the work/life balance is bad, residency is 80 hours a week, so you have to have a good understanding of what the job entails, and the commitment you're making I guess.
I agree with you 200%.
Hey Jen!
I currently work as a Medical Assistant for a family Practice. I want to go into ENT because i really like the duality of surgery and inpatient practice. I like family medicine a lot because of the continuity, but dislike it because we're just the starting point of correcting patients problems and i feel the need to be the one to personally correct these issues. Obviously FM manages a TON of problems but thats my rational Thanks!!
Hello, great content and videos! I have a strong interest in orthopedics and sports medicine, and I plan on attending PA school. But it seems like the majority of the work that is needed for PAs in orthopedics is surgery. Since you have experience with orthopedics in medical school, do PAs do mostly surgery in orthopedic/sports medicine, or are there also other roles for PAs in this part of the medical field? Thanks, Will
The orthopedic PAs I worked with had clinic days and surgery days. But as a PA you wouldn’t get to do as much surgery. Just retracting and closing the skin.
You've probably heard this a lot but you're so inspiring and Wyatt is so cute! And please do a comparison of Grey's and the Good Doctor to normal hospital life. I'm only in high school and I'm thinking about pursuing medicine in the future, however, the closest thing I get to understanding real hospital life is from these TV shows 😂
You do it all! Wow. Just wow
If I want to become a plastic surgeon, is it true that I will get paid in residency?
Seriously...the first episode of Greys Anatomy gives me goosebumps every time I watch it... Seeing the students on their first day of surgery residency... Soooo cool :)
For me, I think the satisfaction comes from helping the patients. Obviously if they are having surgery something is not right and they are in pain. I agree you do not see many of your patients back if the surgery has gone successfully, but that leaves so much more time to help many others. I want to go into orthopedic surgery. My best friends dad is a general surgeon and although starting off in his career he worked a lot, he waited to start a family when his hours were not as demanding. His career and income has allowed his wife to stay home with their kids and they are able to take many family vacations together.
Brianne Bogue it's easier to be a surgeon as a male. They of course can start family even in their 40s ans have their wives stay at home with the kids. As a woman 1) you don't want to wait as long if you've found your partner; 2) your husband probably won't be willing to stay at home with the kids while you're operating (which is understandable) (and 3) as a mom you probably wouldn't even want to tolerate that). Not to mention the stage of pregnancy, when you probably don't want/can't work. This kind of "disadvantage" for women is however true for most medical specialties. Or rather all carriers, actually.
Hi Jenny, I really love your channel. I am a medical student too but in Ukraine. I'm in my second year and would love to do a residency in OB/GYN. Why didn't you want to be an obstetrician gynecologist? I'm just curious. Thank you! Your videos are very helpful
I want to go into orthopedic surgery... I’m only 16 and in high school but I’m planning on shadowing a surgeon and learning more about the field. Any advice for classes to take in high school or how to get a jump start in my career?
I took physiology in high school which I thought was both useful for college and med school
Jenny Le thank you for responding! Love your videos ❤️
I wanted to become a surgeon until i started my rotations as a medical student. I found myself enjoying the outpatient clinic more than the OT just like what you stated, and its still really shocking to me because since i was young my dream was to become a surgeon, but now im leaning towards medicine and more specifically dermatology and family medicine!! Its so weird how experiences change your life goals in life hahaha!! I also didnt want to throw my life away just to "cut people" like how you stated it, but my husband wants to go into general surgery so we'll see about that
Always nice to see your vlog!! I never wanted to be a surgeon until i saw greys anatomy ! but still i havent got enough exposure in the field of surgery to tell if i do wanna go down the path of surgery or not !! keep up the great videos
Man I really have to watch greys to see what all the hype is about
That’s what got me into being a surgeon also!
Just a heads up if you got your inspiration to become a surgeon by watching Grey's Anatomy. The majority (I would say up to 95% nursing, then the other 4% are things managed by other specialties of medicine. 1% surgery) of things the "surgeons" do in Grey's Anatomy are nursing tasks, besides the actual operations. So if you are inspired by what they do Grey's Anatomy and see yourself doing those tasks, then I would actually recommend going into nursing.
Same!! But I’ve always had a thing for neurology!
seapinkoyster Exactly! This comment needs to be seen by other folks who think being a surgeon involves tasks such as changing compression socks lol.
I love watching your videos! its really helpful :) I am still a highschool student in Canada id be graduating next year and I have been thinking about my future and I want to take something in the medical field but I'm afraid to fail because im not really the smartest student. I am leaning more into paediatrics or plastics :)
Don't worry about being the smartest. You just need to worry about whether or not you are willing to put in the work to get into med school and get the residencies that you want. Remember you can't control how smart you are but, you can CONTROL how hard you work.
Jainil Patel Thankyou so much this helps me to have more courage :))
Totally agree with Jainil
I was wondering what it's like for the cardio thoracic surgeon? I really want kids but I know it's hard to manage if your a surgeon
I’m a pre med student and am considering cardio thoracic surgery, but I agree with your thoughts. I’m considering applying to DO schools too, so I have a feeling won’t go into surgery,even tough it is appealing at first glance. I just really love interacting with people.
I think saying “I want to be a surgeon” just sounds better than what life actually would be.
HAHAHA WORD! I'm past my teenage and twenties. I think it's a bunch of kids responding to "how cool" it would be to be a surgeon. In the end it's just a job. You're repeating the same procedures over and over again. The same mundane procedures
@@failyourwaytothetop clearly you have not been to a gastrectomy (just talking about general surgery)
@@failyourwaytothetop or probably you have not heard of trauma surgery
I clicked this so fast! I don't know about surgery, I want to work in IM. I'm not physically comfortable with what it takes to do any type of surgery. I can feel others pain.
The smartest doctors I know are IM
Orthopedic surgeons were taking vacations all the time because they get paid over 300k a year . They could work 6 months/ year and still make a great living.
Really enjoy the videos. You're a big inspiration!
Currently on my second year of college and taking my first anatomy class, do you have any recommendation to optimize memorization? I've got over 200 bones a subdivisions to memorize by next week lmao kms
I usually draw everything out but that takes a long time. If I need to remember something fast I try memory palace.
I think I mainly want to be a surgeon is because it’s intense, a challenge on myself through fixing another person hands on. It’s very direct since as a surgeon, the patients mind and body will be under the surgeons’ responsibility. So it must be amazing after fixing someone who was living at the edge of their life. Very rewarding to see them off I think. However, this is just an imagination and thoughts of a premed student 😂 I SO need to work extra hard like you to be qualified to become a physician
Can I ask how old you are Jenny and how old you were when you first started undergrad years? I am 26 and wanting to change my profession and be in the medical field (although not people doctor, I want to be a doctor of Veterinary medicine..still somewhat similar lol :) and I want to see how old you were when you got to residency.
I think a lot of positions suck and people will sacrifice pay for a better lifestyle and for that reason I will choose the better experience over the big paycheck.
Off topic, but which lip gloss are you wearing? It's beautiful!
I’m in med school and I agree with what you said in terms of surgery lacking the patient interaction. I especially like that I’m not the only one that’s worried about surgery with time becoming routine/mundane and not as thrilling as initially is. Thanks for sharing this! You’re really a rock star and you give me hope as far as starting a family during residency is concerned. How would you say the work hours / lifestyle would be like for someone considering going into internal medicine / oncology?
I feel like with oncology, your schedule is a little more routine. Your clinic would provide the chemo radiation but the surgeon would be doing the surgeries. Either way, this would be planned in advance. I’m curious - what makes your drawn to oncology. Seems like such a hard task dealing with bad news on a daily basis.
Jenny Le if you asked me last year oncology would be the last thing I’d want to go in, lol went from being a die hard peds to considering oncology so it’ll probably change by the time I’ve graduated. But we recently rotated in the endocrinology department and many of the patients had malignancies. What I found to be interesting is that a lot of them seemed more hopefully then I would expect. And that’s one of the things I like about peds is that children are resilient. I think losing patients is the undoubtedly the biggest concern of going into oncology, but I think by the same token helping to save someone’s life would be so rewarding.
#TeamFamilyMedicine!!! I recently matched into one of my top choices for FM residency and I am soo happy. Patient's love us because we actually listen and explain things to them. We have true relationships with our patients. No wham bam thank you maam over here! Keep up the good work Jenny. PS do you have any tips for gifts that I should ask for Graduation? What were some things that made your Intern Year less stressful? Thanks
Yayyyy congrats!! As for gift, I still invested in a test bank to study for step 3. I started my test bank early to study for in my in service exam and just used it for review before each rotation.
I don't want to be a surgeon, and your video is further convincing me lol. Family medicine seems the most likely atm, so it's great seeing your experiences.
Not sure if you’ll see my comment since the video is a few years old, but I’m in my 4th year undergrad. I shadowed an OBGYN. The GYN side was fine but the OB side really pushed me away.
I’m really considering a non-surgical route. However, I’m shadowing an anesthesiologist in pain management next week. I’ve actually never researched this so I’m excited to see this lifestyle, as well as the minor procedures they do.
After shadowing the OBGYN, she told me she thinks I’m going to be family medicine lol. I walked out of the c section. Just too many factors for me honestly! She was amazing at her role but wasn’t sure about that. Maybe gynecology don’t even know. I’m excited for rotations in medical school because I’m really open minded and not sure what I’ll fall in love with til then
i see your point. i'm deeply empathic and love helping people but my style of helping is to get to the root cause of a problem not to treat the surface then when it flares up again where back at the start. to do the surgery to prescribe the physical therapy needed and therapist to give them the 411 on better insurances or better places to get the meds, mental illness or emotional groups, hotlines websites, talk to me when I'm not on call, volunteer at lowerincome hospitals, clinics etc ill give them some indepth knowledge that's my form of caring . also into natural forms of healing like herbalist. if not med school maybe law .
I was crazy about going into surgery particularly plastic surgery, did a elective then i realized NOPE this is not for me lol. Ended up falling in love with Physical Med and Rehab , enjoyed the one on one patient interaction, tracking progress and seeing positive results!
I just came across your video. Watched a few others was wondering are you a physician? I am just about to finish my MA. Next I am gonna start my RN classes in July. I'm super excited!
Yes. I’m a first year family medicine resident.
Wow, you just changed my life.
I am currently a pre-health student studying neuroscience at UMich. My goal is to become a pediatric neurosurgeon. The job is both mentally and physically daunting, and I fully understand that I may have to give up certain societal normalcies (ie: have a family) to meet my goal. But, I believe that the pros outweigh the cons for myself. My entire goal is to give children with otherwise a poor future or none at all a chance to live a normal, happy life. If I could give just one child the ability to have a sense of normalcy or comfort, I will believe the work I’ve done has been worth it. It’s a long, scary road ahead, but I’m more than willing to take the chance.
yess thank you I really hope you do compare the tv shows to real life!
I've always wanted to do surgery for the exact reason you don't want to: I don't like the continuity of care and I would rather just operate. I love the hands-on aspect and having less doctor to patient interaction (when they are conscious at least!)