The Patriot: Deleted Scene "The Heart of a Villain"
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Charlotte and the children arrive on Gullah Island and Abigail shows them their new 'home.' Meanwhile, Tavington is hunting down militia members and torturing them for information as to The Ghost's location and headquarters.
I do not own rights to The Patriot.
They couldn't have of picked a better actor for that part . Jason Isaacs played that character so well
Couldn't "HAVE". Why is it so hard for English speakers to do spell it right? As a non-native English speaker this bothers the hell out of me every time I see it.
+Krieger-Aszendat agreed
I agree I love the brutality in this man's strategies.
Justin Pate He was the best in it.
Hed be great as haytham kenway
-Do your worst!
-I always do.
Badass quote! That should have been kept in!
I bet Tavington popped his neck with his hands.
If you watch the behind the scenes interview with Jason Issacs, you will find it hard to believe why such a man could be looked at as a villain. Great actor indeed.
Thats Lucias Malfoy.
Jason Issacs in real life: *Cures cancer*
Jason Issacs here:
I met him at a convention a few years ago and he is seriously the nicest person you could hope to meet!
All the guys who play the best villains always end up being the nicest guys IRL. It's a bit ironic.
I wish they had kept this in, not just because of the quote he gives at the end but also because it shows that despite being a total monster he was able to show some appreciation towards life in the form of nature, only to have the serenity of the moment botched by his own duties.
Agreed! In one earlier scene that I don't think was deleted (just before he talks to a soldier who was wounded in Mel Gibson's ambush) we see him watching fireflies with a fascinated face. He seems to like nature more than he likes people.
What that says about him as a person is that he has little to no esteem for human beings, and probably hates them, himself included, possibly because, subconsciously, he feels like a monster and projects this feeling onto all of humanity, suddenly rendering him an interesting character rather than a person who's just a villain because the scrip says so.
I definitely agree! It would have given the audience more depth to his character... Not just as a ruthless colonel, but as one who has more appreciation for nature than people due to a past occurrence.
David Frigault Yeah, I'm relatively familiar with Banastre Tarleton and I know Tavington is the result of a severe misrepresentation by the Americans for propagandizing alleged British ruthlessness with "Tarleton"s quarter". Though the way I understood that incident is that the colonials had surrendered and some had come out under a white flag, and then one trigger-happy fool shot Tarleton's horse. The men thought their commander had bee killed but also that the colonials had violated the white flag rules.
Never heard about his curiosity for his surroundings though.
Kris Norge The scene with Tavington and the fireflies was a deleted scene.
Herb Bees this is in the vhs version of the movie.
They really should have kept that bit in where he was in the field. Would have done a lot to make his character more "human". That resigned sigh at the end of his praise of the land showed that he felt the strains of war just as everyone else did. Made him seem less one dimensionally evil.
No, it made him seem more evil.
The banality of evil , if you will. Torturing prisoners was just another day at the office for him.
It reminds me, if you have ever seen them, photos of happy smiling young people who look like they are just so happy & carefree.
They’re photos of the staff from Auschwitz. Banality of evil.
The oscars are stupid. Jason Isaacs must be awarded. He was phenomenal
Tavington, as any human, can connect with nature... However, he can also connect with "work as usual" within seconds.
Tavington: What a beautiful country. Everything grows here. *guy screams* Tavington: *sighs* I hate people. -_-
That's actually what it looks like. In an earlier scene we see him watching fireflies with a fascinated face. It seems like he loves nature and hates people.
exactly what scene are you referring to?
+conformist The firefly scene happened a few minutes after the Martins ambushed the British convey taking Gabriel to be hung as a spy.
+Kris Norge To be honest. It's one thing I like about Tavington.
***** just found it, thanks
after almost 20 years, I finally know what ultimately happened to rollins ... poor guy :'(
@Azrael Daein the bounty hunter who joined the militia in the bar scene
I thought at first, that he only just quit and leave at their base. Never thought that he was captured and killed.
He at least died with his honor intact because he never told him anything. He looked at Tavington in the eyes and said "do your worst."
I wonder who the original guy on the table was? Was that the father from the church who signed up with his son?
@@ZWeinstein15no they end up dying after the church burning scene.
"i always do"....this guy is my new favourite villian
Jason Isaacs.. Best vilain all Time.
Not always the villain Either. He played CPT Steele in Blackhawk down. Still kind of a dick in that role though.
Aly Baby always thought Joaquin Phoenix in the gladiator movie was just as good as this.
Aly Baby oh please bitches garry oldman as stansfields in Leon Fucks!
And also in the figure of Lucius Malfoy.
Too bad he's a fruitcake Liberal.
Why the hell do they always delete all the good scenes...c'mon...
So we can buy the directors cut for an additional 8.99 lol
As good as this scene may be, it does nothing to add to any character's arc or the overall story. They can't put all of the filmed footage in the movie. Something has to get cut. The final cut turned out to be 2hrs and 55 mins, so it's even more understandable that a scene like this got cut.
But then a year later, he became a U.S. Army Rangers captain who was involved in the middle of a certain contingency in Somalia...
Then the field marshal of Joseph Stalin.
Pretty funny, hooahhh?
One of the greatest movie villains of all time. Imagine Jason Isaacs taking that spit to the face, only to have that part end up on the cutting room floor, LOL!
Tavington still feels a weakness for beauty, and regret over destroying it. The face at 0:50 makes me feel sorry for him!
I don't know why that was deleted from the movie.
Perhaps because it showed a "soft" side of Tavington.
I noticed throughout the movie that there were definite places where Tavington seemed liked a nice guy. Which is why he's so kick ass.
What in the hell are you talking about??
I wish they would have left this scene in the movie it would have added depth to Tavington's character. That on the inside he is human.
Tavington had flowers in his hands. I noticed it just now.
Cindy It's to show he loves nature but seems to hate humanity hence another deleted scene where he's is looking at fireflies.
+Cindy Tobacco plantation. Yep.
What's his first name I forgot?
Shayla Knight William if you mean Tavington. (Isaacs).
When Tavington says "I always do." It's just hot as hell is it wrong that I find this character of Jason's to be really attractive.
This scene was actually pretty cool. For a second I was almost convinced Rollins was gonna tell them where the rebels were since he's shown to be such a greedy and uncommitted character in the movie "Any bounty?" "I'm through!". But then that wouldn't add up with the church guy leaking the info.
1:43
I love how he says "Patriotic"
this goes to show how brutal Admiral Zhao/Tavington can be.
Gibson made a choice to ignore history and give the Brits no redeeming features. It makes for a more dramatic movie but some of us Brits dont find it comfortable to watch even though there would have been some Bastards in the Army. He did the same thing with Braveheart and now people believe its the truth. One respected historian was livid about The Patriot and wondered aloud why "Mr. Gibson hates the British so much...he paints us as a force of darkness in all his films..." might be to do with the film Gallipoli which he starred in when a very young actor. We got blamed for everything that happened but even Australian historians are reassesing the real story these days and we are not as culpable as belived over the years.
You didn't think Cornwallis was portrayed sympathetically in this movie? He hated Tavington's methods and wanted to conduct war in a gentlemanly manner, until he ultimately gave in and let Tavington run wild.
I’ve been studying, and I think most Psychologists would diagnose Tavington with Antisocial Personality Disorder, and due to his aristocratic upbringing, I’d assume he’s carried it since birth, making him a Psychopath as opposed to a Sociopath. I think his hatred of other people comes from an unearned since of superiority, caused by his delusions of grandeur. He displays this when he assumes he should become a wealthy Ohio landowner. His inability to learn from his mistakes and obey Cornwallis are pretty infamous. He claims he enjoyed killing Thomas because he was a stupid boy that didn’t deserve to live. And he tries bribing this guy because, like a Psychopath, he assumes all human beings are evil and corruptible at heart, just like himself. That’s my psychological profile of Colonel William Tavington.
Not just that but Tavington's father squandering his inheritance was a major blow to the ego.
@@tristanengland3874 His Father could be Emperor of the World and he’d still be seen as an inferior by his son!
He made the comment about killing the child because he was trying to goad Martin into a fight. I don't know about this business of him being a sadist...he was exceptionally ruthless, sure...but I got the feeling that he saw much of this as a means to an end. For example, when the church was burned, he merely rode off very casually. If he enjoyed torturing people, you'd expect him to linger in order to savor the screams of the dying people. But once he knew it was done, he left. Even after he shot the little boy, there was a trace of emotion in his voice, as if even he knew that what he had done was not necessary. There is more subtlety to the character than would seem obvious at first glance.
@@tgriffin3059 I don’t think Tavington was goading Martin because he simply never considered how he would feel seeing his son die in front of him. That’s just how much he takes into consideration the feelings of others.
@@IsaiahRichards692 I'm referring to the scene where Martin is surrounded by British troops(when he came to negotiate the release of his captured men). If Tavington could have gotten him to make one move, he'd have been dead. Martin promises to kill him before the war is over...and Tavington leans in and says, 'Why wait?' Of course he wasn't worried about the man's feelings....but he WAS keenly aware of how convenient it would be if he could get him to lose his temper while surrounded by dozens of British soldiers!
I love this movie, especially because one of my old teachers is in it... Mr. Stone (Rollins)... I know he has played in a bunch of movies and tv shows. And it is an honor to know him personally...
I really love this scene I wish they would've left it in. Jason is just perfect in this scene.
this is such a cool scene, because I personally am a huge rev. war fanatic and own the patriot directors cut, and have seen the film about 50 times, but this tavington scene for some reason wasn't in the movie, but it should have been because its another one of his finest moments.
I think this is the only scene where the dragoon's talk with American accents as Tarleton did command loyalists.
Jason Isaacs was outstanding in this film as a villain
Why do they take out all the best scenes?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They should have kept this in
Gingerbread man, "You're a monster!"
This made my day 😂
I read that Tavington is loosely based on the actual brit Colonel Tarelton.
Banastre Tarleton
Yes. Tarleton was real, but didn't die in battle as Tavington did. After the war, Tarelton lived many more years and eventually became a beloved mayor of Liverpool!
funny thing is, i honestly thought Charlotte was gonna look uncomfortable, maybe make a few snide remarks about Abigail's house seeing as she came from a fairly wealthy place.
"-Do your worst.
- I always do." Shivers.
I'm sure Tavington popped his neck with his hands.
Good question. I also have the extended edition and this is the only deleted scene that isn't on it.
The one thing I found funny: "Aaaaaaaaaaaaah!" *Sigh*
Never should have been deleted
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Me browsing memes on reddit
Tavington being so sympathetic in that scene screams "FANFICTION!" to me! :)
@CarolinaKate2001 Tavington/Tarleton never burned down any churches. The producers from this movie got that from Nazis in WWII which occured over a hundred and fifty years later. Also, he is known for his brutality towards American rebels, but not towards citizens.
This movie is NOT accurate in their depictions of both Francis Marion--who owned slaves--and Tarleton.
One of Francis Marion's slaves actually joined the British when they came to South Carolinia.
00:36 is like the only time Tavington acts like a decent human.
Whatever your views on the filmand the character portrayed......Jason Isaacs knows spot onhow to play the role of a evilcharacter!!
I would say, evil but not cardboard cut-out, underneath all that evil there is goodness in him, but he cannnot afford to show it, and the sigh when he emits when he is disturbed by the man's scream shows it perfectlyIn my mind he's no monster
America is a rebel nation, only an American can truly control I- oh sorry, wrong Villain!
This scene shows what happen to him when he quits the militia after losing in an ambush
Funny how quickly history can turn a plunderer into a 'patriot'.
Why did they have this scene cut from the film.
The bounty hunter with some heavy spit just gives Tavington his best spit ever.
My fav deleted scene
Why are we arguing over who won what and who's a better country? The United States won because of French assistance and because the Brits surrendered. Noone won 1812. It ended because Britain was more worried about Napoleon. In world war 1 and 2 the allies won, not just America or England but the Alliance as a whole. The United States gave material support to England and the Allies through the lend lease program. It was through cooperation and interdependence that we are all free and not speaking German or Russian. The United States has a well equipped and highly trained military, But so does England. Our two Countries are allies. So stop the pissing contest seriously. And before my patriotism gets questioned, I love the United States, I think even with all her flaws it's a great nation.
Heinrich Muller Dumb ass
without british gold the usa would have stayed in the great depression
The allies were more than just Britain and the USA. Without Australian help Britain would have crumbled at Hitlers' feet.
Tom tonka lol no sorry stop talking shit
+FireCracker Jim Why do you think so many Australian airmen were sent to England to fight the war in the skies? Bomber Command got no recognition for helping to win the war, they were dropped like a sack of shit by Churchill after doing alot of the dirty work.
Why isn't this scene on the extended cut version DVD? I have that edition of The Patriot and all of the other deleted scenes on there except this one.
Some of the most compassionate people are those who have very little.
@Lv100WereCactus It's good to know that others know who Jamieson Price is. :-) I wish he was in more live action roles.
Duke of Wellington at Wars end even stated "I think you have no right, from the state of war, to demand any concession of territory from America ... You have not been able to carry it into the enemy's territory, notwithstanding your military success and now undoubted military superiority...
God saved America in 1814. We were defeated. Madison had abandoned Washington. The British burned it. They were stopped by a sudden hurricane that was so tough it lifted cannons in the air. The British got the hint and went to Baltimore (anthem written here). They should have won here as well but several rockets hit the main American ammo dump but didn’t explode. In New Orleans the British (who didn’t know the war was over) attacked Jackson but for some reason forgot their ladders to storm the fort. God was with us. This war was stupid to start but it was the first step towards the America we know today. How does history change if we become a British colony again?
Like that Red Dawn Spetsnaz guy
What did Banastre Tarleton actually do during the revolution that gave him this completely innacurate depiction in the movie. He never burned a church with the village inside, what did he do that was uncommon in generals in his time. You can bring up the waxhaws massacre but A) they fired on a white flag and shot him and his horse. B) They were still fighting after they had surrendered and C) the entire time the British were killing them all. Tarleton was still under his horse trapped, trying to get out. He didn't order it at all. What did he do that was different to most generals in his time to make this movie make him look like such a monster
The greatest villain acting ever
Great movie! but mostly fiction. But for entertainment amazing film.
That's the Patriot Extended Version Scene
@BettorOffSingle Banastre Tarleton was ruthless in battle but otherwise was a libertine and a fun loving guy. I know they say they based Tav on Ban but Tavington is nothing like Ban. And so regardless this would have been a good scene to leave in. Tav would have been under enormous pressure to capturee Martin just as Ban was under pressure to capture Frances Marion.
I would like to say that neither of our countries are perfect. The U.S. treated the indians badly and allowed slavery; I do not approve of either. However, let us not forget about British prejudice against Africans and other colonial subjects and its use of the extremely cruel and unusual punishment of Hanging, Drawing, and Quartering for traitors even into the nineteenth century.
This wasnt even in the extended cut... dont know why its brilliant
I hope the hell Wilkins regrets ever becoming a loyalist and then joining the Green Dragoons.
The War of 1812 gave a dramatic boost to the manufacturing capabilities of the United States. The British blockade of the American coast created a shortage of cotton cloth in the United States, leading to the creation of a cotton-manufacturing industry, beginning at Waltham, Massachusetts by Francis Cabot Lowell. The war also spurred on construction of the Erie Canal project, which was built to promote commercial links yet was also perceived as having military uses should the need ever arise...
The British kept American prisoners in horrible conditions in the belly of ships in New York harbor. The torture of civilians and inhumane treatment of prisoners should have been included in the movie.
Okay, show of hands, what actor played the best sadistic military guy:
Jean Martin in Battle of Algiers;
Jason Isaacs in the Patriot;
or Jose Ferrer in Lawrence of Arabia?
The way things are going on here in America these and other scenes from this movie may become a reality once more.
I can see why they deleted this scene. The movie really didn't need another scene of the bad guy being evil.
He was already ridiculously panto evil the whole time.
Every ten minutes the film has him doing some new crime (None of which historically happened) to make us hate him more.
Frankly this film was over loaded with blood libel against Britain as it is, without adding in this stuff.
I disagree. Certainly tarleton wasn't as bad as portrayed but things like this did happen. People forget that the general killed at bunker hill had his body mutilated terribly sever times by the British. Colonists tarred and feathered tax collectors and loyalists. We were traitors to Britain and thus in some cases treated as such. Generally things were handled in more gentlemanly conduct but things are not as pg as they are portrayed usually today
nolessss10 So because in history both sides did bad things...its okay to make a movie that claims the British are literally doing Nazi war crimes against the heroic, noble colonists who are fighting to end slavery?
I suspect you just get fired up seeing another country demonised to big up your own country. Its a bit uncomfortable when someone points out how that is offensive and dishonest, so you have to quickly rationalise.
"Well both sides did bad things, therefore inventing entirely fake war crimes that never happened and pinning them all on the British is justified."
You want to cheer for the Americans and boo the evil Brits because that makes you feel good and you don't want to have to question that good feeling....but just because you don't want to doesn't mean you shouldn't.
You can love your country without your feelings being so childish and simplistic or at the expense of the truth.
Admitting that this movie is spreading nonsense wont make you love America less. You don't have to accept all propaganda just because its flag waving for the side you support.
If the film was in anyway even handed, you might have some kind of point. I never complained that the film made war seem too unpleasant as you seem to imply. I am saying it is full of lies about war crimes that never happened.
Pretty ironic to see my country accused of being historical nazis from a film by a German director and a guy who thinks jews started all the wars in the world, who has a dad who openly denies the Holocaust.
But putting all that asside for a minute...
This film did NOT need another scene of this guy being evil.
Everytime he's on screen he's killing Mel's kids, burning down buildings with people in, murdering slaves or gloating about doing any of those things. It feels like the directors are worried we will forget to hate the guy if he's not on screen. I don't think we see a scene in the movie with him in where he isn't doing evil or talking about doing evil.
The only purpose of this scene is to show how evil the bad guys is. He is already one of the most cartoonishly evil villains in movie history, this scene needed to be cut as it adds literally nothing to his character or the plot.
First off twat I'm british on my mothers side and have been facinated by their history so no I don't get ups from bashing England. My fathers side is early american and fought them. I'm not partial to either country historically speaking as id give my life for either. Second off that's not the same having one sadistic bastard who hates traitors antagonizing them versus as mass genocide. Thirdly the patriot is not a historically accurate movie it's just a vision off how the world was at that time. Which yes was more brutal than it is even portrayed in the film. It's a historical fact also that the British wanted to end things as amiable as possible due to the fact that they wanted good relations w them after they put the revolt down. For that reason they did handle themselves w a higher degree of class then most civil wars of that world at the time but again brutalic events did occur. The character is based on Bonastre tarleton but is not Bonastre tarleton.
And for the record he was infact a man who hated the traitors he was fighting and treated them cruely. This is the same man who slashed young Andrew Jackson with his saber when Jackson refused to shine his boots
As for the slave piece I don't refute that part of the movie being too soft but their were occasional black families freed who maintained good relations with their former masters but it was a needle in a hate filled haystack
Historians claim the War of 1812 was a stalemate.
No side was defeated or lost territory.
The quote of spit on face is "PTFFU you" or "TFFF you"
That is how Rollins did to the colonel William Tavington in this movie.
Now the Colonel has covid....
Sure was a good test of the guy's real patriotism. If it were false, he would have accepted the offer.
Jason Isaac a.k.a haytam kenway
I dont mean to come off as a psychopath but after tavington said beautiful country everything grows here the guy is heard screaming is funny because taving realised the disturbing difference of his job
I fucking love Jason Isaacs in this. He's the best part of the movie!
Why they gotta bully my boy Rollins like that
I forgot to mention this in my earlier comment. The U.S. and France were not allies in the War of 1812. The French actually pressed U.S. sailors as well but then they stopped and since they had never ruled the territory that was then the U.S. it did not look like they were claiming sovereignty over us.
So Rollins didn't get to desert that easily.
RIP Rollins
Did any of you notice Jamieson Price in this film
Jason Isaacs is thats DUDE
Who loves how bordon says theif
The United States declared war on Britain 1812.
Britain was fighting a Global War and its focus was Europe and Asia.
U.S had the advantage in the North American Front and still failed even with 95% of the British force fighting in Europe and other fronts
The U.S lost the War of 1812 and by 1814 the U.S had been forced into peace-talks and the British had won in the North American Front.
Also British forces won in Europe by 1815 campaigns in Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium,etc
Fortunately for all U.S. citizens, you are not correct about the U.S. loosing the war. If we had lost, we probably would have become a colony again.
I love kindness
Hed never have survived taking that deal. Generous as it seems, thats like an entire regiments pay, like theyre gonna give it to you after you rat out and give them the info they want.
@quest8899 most of the countries on the planet have their own highlights, the UK and the US included...
What version of the film was this scene deleted from?
The DVD I purchased has all these scenes in it.
You mean the film shown in theaters?
well why take that out ? i mean i couldn't take that movie serious since tavington burned that church so what the hell just put that super anti british shit in aswell
In terms of colonies he probably means Cuba, Puerto Rico the Philippines and Hawaii . At the time they could be considered colonies or annexed territory. Hawaii was obtained through quite a bit of controversy and tyrannical means. The Philippines was obtained through Genocide.
Every nation has had is far share of stained hands.
0:40 Beautiful!
And no, the US did not "colonize" the western half of the continent. The Spanish and French did. The US just bought, or went to war for, that land from them. The land was then broken up into territories and slowly those territories became states.
Tavington can't sat patriotic right lfmao
Probably because of his accent.
He is saying it Correct, but there are British and American English Pronunciatións of the Word
Even the UK was put under blockade by the USS Pride of Baltimore since the US navy worked with so much ease in British waters.
Patriot means that they won't betray their country, I guess Tavington never learned he meaning of that
I would think that man would be shot or stabbed with a sword by Tavington while he was still on the table.
Beheaded most likely
Did you know that the east to west original boundaries of the 13 colonies crossed the entire continent of the North America? VA, PA and North Carolina never had a western border. It wasn't until after the War of 1812, when states like Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, etc.. came into being that those borders were defined. Ben Franklin considered everything west of the Atlantic coast as "America" and within the borders of the 13 states. Just a difference of thinking from back then.
Lucius Malfoy
William Tavington. The man isn't just Malfoy.
After we won at Baltimore and Plattsburgh.