Actually no, he's full of shit lol It is not "just as easy" for a legislature made up of 100+ members to trample rights. It's way easier for a king (one person) to do it. Who does the king need to agree with? Does he need support? No.
@@captainnutsack8151 congress is corrupt as fuck. They're paid six figures a year but they're all worth tens of millions of dollars because they trade on the stock market with insider info. That same shit would land anyone else in prison. Democracy isn't safe from violating your rights. It's literally just mob rule
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C. S. Lewis
Very debatable whether or not some culty fanboy kids like you want it or not. Pretty telling when Gibson attracts some ignorant fools like you whos not even willing to discuss and are so stuck on your beliefs. I feel bad for losers like you. Good luck in your crappy life with your shitty mind loser 🤣
*"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can."* Actually I'd argue that the legislature can do it even more easily than the king because the king is forced to take responsibility for those actions whereas the legislature is not. Remember, tyranny is always evil. Liberty is always the ideal.
Someone's been reading Hoppe's "Democracy: The God that Failed". (If you didn't I highly recommend it, because he essentially points to how the government in general, but Democracy in particular, is the most decivilizing force in society,)
@@Archedgar All States are inherently and necessarily criminal, legitimized terrorist organizations; it's irrelevant what kind of flavor you're rubbing on the boot, you're still forced to lick it.
Benjamin, I was at Bunker Hill, the British advanced three times and we killed over 700 of them at point blank range and still they took the ground, that is the measure of their resolve
and yet we still won... with Militia.... that's what won... and honestly what the second amendment is about... be a little harder these days with tanks and predators and whatnot
Like a democrat who finds themselves the victim of thievery or a beating that they helped create motive for. By defunding the police, more and more of them have found themselves the target of the very animals they gave power to.
“There’s not man in this room, or anywhere for that matter to whom I’d more willingly trust my life” pray that I am looked upon that highly by fellow men
You should probably read about the Founding Fathers. They didn't personally send young men to fight the war. Some of them went and fought, themselves. Some of them paid with their lives for Independence. Some lost their families. Some lost EVERYTHING they had. Some suffered physical and mental wounds from the war. At the end of it, the Founding Fathers were dramatically changed. But they were unique in that they did not declare war, and then expected others to achieve the War for Independence that they all so fondly and deliberately sought for themselves.
I swear I hadn't googled this movie recently or even mentioned it around my phone, but I was thinking about this very scene today and later tonight it was randomly here, on my RUclips feed.... I swear it's starting to read our thoughts.
It's the spirits, of the countless innocent men, women and children that will be killed, tortured and enslaved by that independent nation, making you cry
@@SergyMilitaryRankings Union basically told yes we come to liberate some slaves, sametime we kill you take your property and subjucate your children to our great nation. And then now people are forced to salute its flag, and if some of thouse subjucated states think they should be free gain then CIA will come and handles the issue. But if in world some region trys to become free, then CIA helps them to breake Free, like Kosovo who was part of serbia for centurys were boken free with CIA help.
@@camdenirwin4960 America has never beaten Russia or USSR, not once, Ukraine with countless billions of European and American weapons is getting smoked
Liberty is never given, it must be taken. I love this movie and the price it demonstrates was paid for a free nation here!! It Will apparently need to be paid yet again.
We should take heed of the past or we're predetermined to repeat it again. "An elected legislature can trample a man's rights just as easily as a King can. That is so true!!
And if we current Americans would continue to be free, or more correctly to regain our true freedom, perhaps the day is coming again when we'll have to truly fight for it. But before that happens, a lot of our modern day Americans will have to become far less comfortable, to shake them out of their complacency.
Nah most American's are selfish cowards. They only care about what is put in their face on their phones. They take propaganda as truth. If it can down to freedom and liberty or security. They would give up their freedom for security and COVID is proof of that. Less than 1.5% of the population volunteers for military service and many of those people it is generational. So If Americans are going to regains just a little of their liberty it will be won by just a few which will have to fight and die for that end.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings True, but it is becoming less and less free as the years go on. It's people, and it's Government, becoming more and more oppressive through the sands of time. As all countries and people become in human history.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings And by what guidelines are they coming to that conclusion that the US is top 5-10? Why do I need to have a license to fish? why do I need to ask daddy government for permission to build on land that I "own"? Why am I extorted money by the barrel of a gun to pay for those who refuse to work? that ain't freedom that is bondage. Americans have become slaves to several hundred kings who on a whim can change the rules and put you in jail for something you have always done freely. The United States is not free, it hasn't been for a long time now.
That ain't the measure of their resolve Col., that's their superior training and years of experience fighting in more wars and battles than the Americans they have been doing it far longer after all.
@@Vikingr4Jesus5919 Dunno. Not everyone is willing to sign up to serve and those that do...from what have seen in personal experience not as many take it seriously as they should in certain branches, too much drinking, partying, and the like especially during training.
The saddest part was that he was talking to men who he had assumed had forgotten the horrors of war, and heard those men tell how they remembered it well and still that it "had come to that." People like to talk about how often the US has been in war, but they forget that the most violent time in our Nation's history was the fight for the independence and the war(s) immediately prior. Our founding fathers wrote about how our infants were familiar with the sound of the drums of war. "We make war that we may live in peace."
"I'm not an orator... ...I'm a soldier." Then proceeds to defend the courage and honor of the one he is in direct debate with when they are accused of cowardice, knowing the worth of one soldier to another.
People watching this scene when the Patriot came out: finally, a historical piece where Mel doesn't play some blood lusting, war mongering psychopath. Twenty minutes later: nevermind
As it was said by sergeant John Rambo in the fourth episode, "when you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing". A moderate man, no matter how eager to engage in talks and negociations he is, might be pushed up to a breaking point where he will transform in a beast of war (even if after the ambush in the swamps and the execution of captured British soldiers, he ordered that any further captured British soldiers were to be spared, have their wounds tended to (if possible) and sent back to the UK. Possibly as a way of entering further negociation with an advantage).
Is a goddamn shame that people in modern times do not have the balls to debate professionally like this, and to have the fortitude to stand for something that’s worth fighting for
I collect old newspapers & broadsides and in my collection is a print from the London Chronicle, just after the Treaty of Paris was signed. George III is addressing Parliament, he says “Sadly a day will come, perhaps too soon, when our brethren on the American Continent realize, as we ourselves have, that Monarchy is necessary to the enjoyment of constitutional liberty. They will cry out as a lost child, but there will be no maid to suckle them, nor father to raise them. And we their ghostly progenitors shall hide our face, as the world of tomorrow looks on in helpless pity and overwhelming despair.”
I only saw the beginning of this movie. Never the entire film. However, I think this part is perhaps the best in my opinion. First off, you have Gibson expressing his concern over the "leaders", wondering if he's probably trading one dictator for another, so as to speak. He then let everyone know exactly where he stood on the issue. Yes, he wasn't happy with the taxation. Yes, he believed that the colonies should be allowed to govern themselves. But he wasn't willing to go to war because he knew that if war came, it wouldn't be fought in England. It wouldn't be fought on some distant frontier. It would be fought among the colonies, traumatizing their children. And as far as I could see, no one could argue against his points. Say that he was wrong on those points. I think some would take their victories where they could. Gibson might not be fighting for them, but at least he wouldn''t be fighting against them.
With what's happening with my beloved Katyusha and William and the children I'm SO not in the mood to talk about the British Monarchy. I guess the Donbass Rebel Queen is the secret British Loyalist! 🤣
“If your principles dictate independence, then war is the only way.” “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants” “A republic madam, if you can keep it” We’ve failed to live up to any of these quotes. Soon the dream that was an American Republic will be lost.
Mel Gibson's speech at 01:14 made the audience laugh, but there is nothing funny about it; "why should I trade 1 tyrant three thousand miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away?" This memorable quote has a lot of logic behind it; albeit, it is not used accurately in the movie. Legislature can be voted in and voted out, so even if there is alleged tyranny, it is short lived (opposed to life-appointed King); more importantly SCOTUS functions as our safety-net to prevent such a thing from occurring. This quote is more accurate if you apply it to the judiciary. In 2023 there were more than 1400 federal judges, many appointed for life pursuant to Title III of the Constitution, whom enjoy complete immunity and carry out their function with impunity. Removing a federal judge is not a common occurrence; the impeachment hearing might as well be held on the moon. A simple solution is to have the federal (and state in line with preserving federalism) legislature establish by an Act an administrative agency (we have many to pull the blue-print from) that is responsible for reviewing (and licensing) all members of the judicial branch, and give recommendations (carefully prepared peer-reviewed data) to a committee within the legislature who are responsible for initiating impeachment proceedings when no other resolve is available. It is very important to note that separation of powers requires the branches of our government to keep their powers separate. Because it is conflict of interest for the judiciary to "self-regulate" (as the judiciary erroneously concocted inapposite), and because the Constitution expressly assigns the impeachment duties to the legislature, the legislature (innocently relying on SCOTUS erroneous expert decision to self-regulate) has not provided oversight over federal judicial misconduct. With each generation, we are supposed to get smarter and better. I, ilya Liviz Sr., the Original Jurist for Justice, am prepared to take on the position of Chief Justice of United States of America, NOT because I want to, but because shockingly I have the perfect attributes to be the best candidate for the job (I am serious). Alternatively, a position on Saturday Night Live.
At the end of the movie, the frame of the house that's being rebuilt by Martin's former men, including the former bigot and the former slave, is supposed to be symbolic of that, in that they've laid the frame of the "building" (Country), but it would more time for that promise to be fulfilled, to all Americans..
@@kendog52361the real Benjamin had slaves who he beat and possibly killed he was made into a ideal person not a realistic or factual portrayal but then again it’s Hollywood let’s make some money
'But I am the widowed father of five children. I do not have the luxury of principles in this matter. Inasmuch as I will not fight, I will not vote.' While we all talk about legislatures and tyrants, Benjamin Martin's priorities in this scene are **precisely** where they should be. There is no safety net in 1776, no system of protection for his children should he die in war. If he dies, then his children will not eat. Those he has hired to help work his land will not be paid. Taxmen, carpet baggers [to use the Reconstruction era term], and lawyers will use the law to whittle his land down piece by piece for a profit and his children will inherit nothing. His sons will be sharecroppers on the land they grew up upon and his daughters prey to any marriage proposal that might come along for girls with no dowries. Going to war at this minute would throw away all that he spent his building and fighting for and sell his family into destitution. THOSE are the stakes for Capt. Benjamin Martin. There are many tyrants in this world that prevent us from doing as we might otherwise wish to do. One of those tyrants is called 'duty', and Martin is all too aware of his duty to his family.
I wish they had not stopped the dialog there -- because we'll soon be going through something like this again and the Americans that will fight this time may not be prepared for the horrors and the fog of war. Granted, it is a just and necessary cause, but this will be paid dearly
Mel Gibson plays a man with a family who opposes war and wishes to stay out of it until his love ones are killed and then he joins a revolutionary struggle against a tyrannical power…. Now he’s done this before.
What a great scene, showing a time in America when principles and honor really mattered. Sadly these days are now gone. The men debating these measures in the South Carolina had an average age of 30. Take a look at the ages of the men below who signed the Declaration of Independence: James Monroe, 18 Aaron Burr, 20 Alexander Hamilton, 21 James Madison, 25 Thomas Jefferson, 33 John Hancock, 39 John Adams, 40 Paul Revere, 41 George Washington, 44 Our "men" now are feeble minded, self-satisfying, content to their own pleasures with no forethought of honor or duty. The men in the Americas of the 1700s would laugh at the fools who populate America today.
Although you are right, the many reasons more people are feeble minded are because of sodium fluoride (neurotoxin), bisphenol A (feminizes men), aspartame (neurotoxin), monosodium glutamate (excitotoxin), prescription drugs and other lab made medicines. Bertrand Russell even said diet, injections and injunctions will combine from a very early age, to produce the sort of the character the authorities consider desirable. Aldous Huxley in Brave New World references a scientific dictatorship, using pharma drugs as a euphoric and getting people to love their servitude.
Well, the first ever Ukrainian Congresswoman Victoria Spartz is...not running for reelection because she doesn't want to be a meaningless useless prop. That's all that one really needs to know about the " new and improved " America. Slow Curtain, The End.
The spanish americans traded a tyrant that lived 3,000 miles away( the king of Spain) for 3.000 tyrants who live one mile away( the so called liberators).
William Wallace Joker Norman Osborne Marc Webbs version joining the American Revolution to fight for independence and freedom. To fight against King George and his British Army
A whole different generation of men we haven’t seen since. These men were the first to fight and disobey a King to freedom. Only time in history it happened this way as far as we know.
That was no miracle, more like a set up. You think America was discovered just by chance?? The land was already occupied by natives, but the arrogance of the white man dictates otherwise. History is far more deceptive than it lets us know.
"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights just as easily as a king can."
That's the fucking truth.
Not as easily, but as surely.
I wish the Canadians would keep that in mind.
Actually no, he's full of shit lol
It is not "just as easy" for a legislature made up of 100+ members to trample rights. It's way easier for a king (one person) to do it. Who does the king need to agree with? Does he need support? No.
@@captainnutsack8151 congress is corrupt as fuck. They're paid six figures a year but they're all worth tens of millions of dollars because they trade on the stock market with insider info. That same shit would land anyone else in prison. Democracy isn't safe from violating your rights. It's literally just mob rule
True, but that's why it can be un-elected and stopped through other means. A king however can't be un-elected.
The guy who played colonel has played his role in this scene perfectly
Years matter.
Ah yes the fabled South Carolina Mouse Cursor a true patriot and revolutionary hero
Next clip queued up on monitor #2
The same South Carolina Mouse Cursor whose fury was so famous during the Wilderness campaign.
@@PineconeSunsetSome say he was so rebellious that he too fired on fort Sumter
Such a powerful and loyal patriot that he single handedly deleted the British from North America's hard drive.
Fast forward to present day: we now have a lot MORE than 3,000 tyrants, WAY more
Absolutely, all of Washington is comprised of tyrants!
Yes, and they are cultist for the orange traitor .
Officer Grabby is a tyrant.
Yep. They're called the Wokey Wokes or as I " lovingly " refer to them " the Bolshevik garbage ". 🤣
But there are MORE good guys than bad ones
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C. S. Lewis
Sounds like the Globalist Nomenklatura Establishment did find a solution
Never heard that one before. I really like it.
Sounds like he’s talking about the Christian god
@@snakesandsticks clearly you know nothing about C.S. Lewis.
@@Bumbley1 just seems like a pretty on-the-nose description of the Christian god
One of the best actors and directors to ever live...Hands down...No debate...
That's not very democratic of you.
@@redsol3629😮
Lol
Very debatable whether or not some culty fanboy kids like you want it or not. Pretty telling when Gibson attracts some ignorant fools like you whos not even willing to discuss and are so stuck on your beliefs. I feel bad for losers like you. Good luck in your crappy life with your shitty mind loser 🤣
I´ll debate you one this!
As an Australian, I want to say a prayer to Heath Ledger, in this role. We over here, miss him greatly.
You're not alone.
His performance as the joker totally redeemed himself for brokeback mountain 😂
The guy had so many more years in Hollywood. Also Mel Gibson is Australian ironically in this very American movie
He is universally loved and is a beautiful Spirit...
@@paulinotou Well he was born in New York before moving to Australia
Mel and Chris dialoguing is just pure magic!
*"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can."*
Actually I'd argue that the legislature can do it even more easily than the king because the king is forced to take responsibility for those actions whereas the legislature is not. Remember, tyranny is always evil. Liberty is always the ideal.
I’m for a king over a Congress. Much easier to deal with and replace
@@greexduap6149 Yeah one king is easy compare to the whole Congress. Kinda like what Cromwell feel about Parliament.
@@greexduap6149 How about a *CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC?* that would be infinitely better than both.
Someone's been reading Hoppe's "Democracy: The God that Failed". (If you didn't I highly recommend it, because he essentially points to how the government in general, but Democracy in particular, is the most decivilizing force in society,)
@@Archedgar All States are inherently and necessarily criminal, legitimized terrorist organizations; it's irrelevant what kind of flavor you're rubbing on the boot, you're still forced to lick it.
Benjamin, I was at Bunker Hill, the British advanced three times and we killed over 700 of them at point blank range and still they took the ground, that is the measure of their resolve
and yet we still won... with Militia.... that's what won... and honestly what the second amendment is about... be a little harder these days with tanks and predators and whatnot
@@stevegraves7040 tanks and predator drones can be dealt with.
Funny how his mind changed as soon as it affected him personally.
As he quite clearly said immediately after this clip ended, he's a parent-he doesn't have the luxury of principles.
Whatever works.
Like a democrat who finds themselves the victim of thievery or a beating that they helped create motive for. By defunding the police, more and more of them have found themselves the target of the very animals they gave power to.
@@100nitrog2 I mean, that isn't a good statement to make lol
@@someone-ji2zb pain can effect a man and how that person ends up veiweing things compared to one who hasn't gone through the same
“There’s not man in this room, or anywhere for that matter to whom I’d more willingly trust my life” pray that I am looked upon that highly by fellow men
Well, was your fury so famous during the wilderness campaign?
Careful what you wish for. God might just grant you the opportunity to prove yourself worthy, to see if your action follows word.
@@Vikingr4Jesus5919 the day I was born I fell short, however if I’m given the honor to prove myself then I hope I don’t disappoint
It's always some politician or someone not willing go fight themselves to be so eager to risk the lives of others.
thats the difference between a terrorist and a diplomat
extreme actions vs political actions changed the course of every nation
You should probably read about the Founding Fathers.
They didn't personally send young men to fight the war.
Some of them went and fought, themselves.
Some of them paid with their lives for Independence.
Some lost their families.
Some lost EVERYTHING they had.
Some suffered physical and mental wounds from the war.
At the end of it, the Founding Fathers were dramatically changed.
But they were unique in that they did not declare war, and then expected others to achieve the War for Independence that they all so fondly and deliberately sought for themselves.
Chris Cooper always knocks it out of the park!!!
I love this movie. Perfectly done.
I also love this movie too and yes it is perfectly done
One of the BEST AMERICAN MOVIES EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!
But half of the movie is made up
@@Chineseconcreteespecially the bits about slavery
I swear I hadn't googled this movie recently or even mentioned it around my phone, but I was thinking about this very scene today and later tonight it was randomly here, on my RUclips feed.... I swear it's starting to read our thoughts.
1:49 “ an elected legislature, can trample a man’s rights just as easily as a king can” say that again, but louder please!!!!!!
The more important part is "1 tyrant 3000 miles away or 3000 tyrants 1 mile away" only we(very loose we) elected the 3000
“…but for the independence of one nation.”
I don’t know what it is but that line always makes me tear up.
It's the spirits, of the countless innocent men, women and children that will be killed, tortured and enslaved by that independent nation, making you cry
@@SergyMilitaryRankings Union basically told yes we come to liberate some slaves, sametime we kill you take your property and subjucate your children to our great nation. And then now people are forced to salute its flag, and if some of thouse subjucated states think they should be free gain then CIA will come and handles the issue. But if in world some region trys to become free, then CIA helps them to breake Free, like Kosovo who was part of serbia for centurys were boken free with CIA help.
@@SergyMilitaryRankingsIt's the fact that we defeated Russia probably. Such a beautiful thing.
@@camdenirwin4960 America has never beaten Russia or USSR, not once, Ukraine with countless billions of European and American weapons is getting smoked
@@camdenirwin4960 Doesn't even make sense
Liberty is never given, it must be taken.
I love this movie and the price it demonstrates was paid for a free nation here!!
It Will apparently need to be paid yet again.
Lmfao paraphrasing genocidal slave traders talking about liberty 😂
Except for the fact that Britain gave Independence peacefully to the Canadians, Australians, Indians and New Zealanders peacefully
We should take heed of the past or we're predetermined to repeat it again. "An elected legislature can trample a man's rights just as easily as a King can. That is so true!!
this movie made social studies into a graphic war drama
“If your principles dictate independence, then war is the only way. It has come to that.”
I fear our generation may have to live by those words still.
Getting closer every day.
Im a swede.....we need this!
And if we current Americans would continue to be free, or more correctly to regain our true freedom, perhaps the day is coming again when we'll have to truly fight for it. But before that happens, a lot of our modern day Americans will have to become far less comfortable, to shake them out of their complacency.
The US is easily one of the top 5-10 freesest countries on earth
Nah most American's are selfish cowards. They only care about what is put in their face on their phones. They take propaganda as truth. If it can down to freedom and liberty or security. They would give up their freedom for security and COVID is proof of that. Less than 1.5% of the population volunteers for military service and many of those people it is generational. So If Americans are going to regains just a little of their liberty it will be won by just a few which will have to fight and die for that end.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings True, but it is becoming less and less free as the years go on. It's people, and it's Government, becoming more and more oppressive through the sands of time. As all countries and people become in human history.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings And by what guidelines are they coming to that conclusion that the US is top 5-10? Why do I need to have a license to fish? why do I need to ask daddy government for permission to build on land that I "own"? Why am I extorted money by the barrel of a gun to pay for those who refuse to work? that ain't freedom that is bondage. Americans have become slaves to several hundred kings who on a whim can change the rules and put you in jail for something you have always done freely.
The United States is not free, it hasn't been for a long time now.
"Our first order of business."
"And our LAST IF WE VOTE A LEVY!"
Bro got the room riled up for no reason lmao
And war comes again. 🇺🇸
@BoneThroneTriumph poor ol Virginia the craziness is laughable but its not im in Keyucky if the ball goes up we're going to Virginia.
1:20
War always comes
Thanks to dumbass Trump-stans
“Only the dead have seen the end of war”
Socrates
The hero of Canton the man they called JAYNE
That ain't the measure of their resolve Col., that's their superior training and years of experience fighting in more wars and battles than the Americans they have been doing it far longer after all.
and superiors numbers in the battle.... Any meat grinder will clog eventually if you put enough meat through it.
Agreed, yet has that not boosted said resolve?
@@Vikingr4Jesus5919 Dunno. Not everyone is willing to sign up to serve and those that do...from what have seen in personal experience not as many take it seriously as they should in certain branches, too much drinking, partying, and the like especially during training.
One of my favorite war movies
The saddest part was that he was talking to men who he had assumed had forgotten the horrors of war, and heard those men tell how they remembered it well and still that it "had come to that."
People like to talk about how often the US has been in war, but they forget that the most violent time in our Nation's history was the fight for the independence and the war(s) immediately prior.
Our founding fathers wrote about how our infants were familiar with the sound of the drums of war.
"We make war that we may live in peace."
Gotta love the Americans.
"Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away?"
That's exactly what we did.
social studies brought me here; rewatching this for my grades -_-
Damn good movie.
Love that mouse action
"I'm not an orator... ...I'm a soldier." Then proceeds to defend the courage and honor of the one he is in direct debate with when they are accused of cowardice, knowing the worth of one soldier to another.
Time when men were men women were women, beautiful era people had witnessed. Gone all of those today.
my favorite patriotic movie of all time!
this is also my favorite patriotic movie of all time too
One of my favorite movies of all time
Fuck war
This movie was so emotional, i only watched it once.
Ironically South Carolina went on to be the state that saw the most military engagements in the war.
South Carolina has a powerful, yet poorly celebrated history.. the world has been robbed of such a storied people
People watching this scene when the Patriot came out: finally, a historical piece where Mel doesn't play some blood lusting, war mongering psychopath.
Twenty minutes later: nevermind
As it was said by sergeant John Rambo in the fourth episode, "when you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing".
A moderate man, no matter how eager to engage in talks and negociations he is, might be pushed up to a breaking point where he will transform in a beast of war (even if after the ambush in the swamps and the execution of captured British soldiers, he ordered that any further captured British soldiers were to be spared, have their wounds tended to (if possible) and sent back to the UK. Possibly as a way of entering further negociation with an advantage).
Wouldn't it be great if Congress was full of such wise people today?
Because career politics wasn't embedded and codified yet.
They won't allow it.
Covid19 brought me here! 💋🤞
Irrelevant. What brought me here is our Irish family and the Israeli apartheid. 🇮🇪🇺🇸🇵🇸
Oh Jesus. This wasn't the first lockdown in us history. It has happened before and things went back to normal
This scene gives me chills. It's pure cinematic perfection. Sad this movie doesn't get the credit it deserves.
Colonel: I’m not an orator…
Sounds like a damn good one to me 👍
Is a goddamn shame that people in modern times do not have the balls to debate professionally like this, and to have the fortitude to stand for something that’s worth fighting for
I collect old newspapers & broadsides and in my collection is a print from the London Chronicle, just after the Treaty of Paris was signed. George III is addressing Parliament, he says “Sadly a day will come, perhaps too soon, when our brethren on the American Continent realize, as we ourselves have, that Monarchy is necessary to the enjoyment of constitutional liberty.
They will cry out as a lost child, but there will be no maid to suckle them, nor father to raise them.
And we their ghostly progenitors shall hide our face, as the world of tomorrow looks on in helpless pity and overwhelming despair.”
If we do not fight for our country, we will lose it.
This is do true today
God save the King 🇬🇧
Fuckin yanks really cocked it all up didn't they old cum
Are we talking about King George III or King Charles III
What the hell's with the mouse cursor moving around during the video? Jeez.
Hear Hear!!
It is fed up of the cats and wants a youtube video for itself. It is ready to go to war!
You don’t need the video. you need the audio, listen and understand
It was wants to enlist for America first Army
The biggest tyrant of our entire entire history as a country lives, right now, in a Delaware basement.
I only saw the beginning of this movie. Never the entire film. However, I think this part is perhaps the best in my opinion. First off, you have Gibson expressing his concern over the "leaders", wondering if he's probably trading one dictator for another, so as to speak. He then let everyone know exactly where he stood on the issue. Yes, he wasn't happy with the taxation. Yes, he believed that the colonies should be allowed to govern themselves. But he wasn't willing to go to war because he knew that if war came, it wouldn't be fought in England. It wouldn't be fought on some distant frontier. It would be fought among the colonies, traumatizing their children.
And as far as I could see, no one could argue against his points. Say that he was wrong on those points.
I think some would take their victories where they could. Gibson might not be fighting for them, but at least he wouldn''t be fighting against them.
With what's happening with my beloved Katyusha and William and the children I'm SO not in the mood to talk about the British Monarchy. I guess the Donbass Rebel Queen is the secret British Loyalist! 🤣
"Hear Hear!"
God Bless
“If your principles dictate independence, then war is the only way.”
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”
“A republic madam, if you can keep it”
We’ve failed to live up to any of these quotes. Soon the dream that was an American Republic will be lost.
Well Martin was not wrong about the legislature. They are trampling us every day.
Oh, shut up. No one is trampling your rights, but the orange fool
Mel Gibson's speech at 01:14 made the audience laugh, but there is nothing funny about it; "why should I trade 1 tyrant three thousand miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away?" This memorable quote has a lot of logic behind it; albeit, it is not used accurately in the movie. Legislature can be voted in and voted out, so even if there is alleged tyranny, it is short lived (opposed to life-appointed King); more importantly SCOTUS functions as our safety-net to prevent such a thing from occurring. This quote is more accurate if you apply it to the judiciary. In 2023 there were more than 1400 federal judges, many appointed for life pursuant to Title III of the Constitution, whom enjoy complete immunity and carry out their function with impunity. Removing a federal judge is not a common occurrence; the impeachment hearing might as well be held on the moon. A simple solution is to have the federal (and state in line with preserving federalism) legislature establish by an Act an administrative agency (we have many to pull the blue-print from) that is responsible for reviewing (and licensing) all members of the judicial branch, and give recommendations (carefully prepared peer-reviewed data) to a committee within the legislature who are responsible for initiating impeachment proceedings when no other resolve is available. It is very important to note that separation of powers requires the branches of our government to keep their powers separate. Because it is conflict of interest for the judiciary to "self-regulate" (as the judiciary erroneously concocted inapposite), and because the Constitution expressly assigns the impeachment duties to the legislature, the legislature (innocently relying on SCOTUS erroneous expert decision to self-regulate) has not provided oversight over federal judicial misconduct. With each generation, we are supposed to get smarter and better. I, ilya Liviz Sr., the Original Jurist for Justice, am prepared to take on the position of Chief Justice of United States of America, NOT because I want to, but because shockingly I have the perfect attributes to be the best candidate for the job (I am serious). Alternatively, a position on Saturday Night Live.
War is hell.
Gotta love the mouse cursor floating around the screen
Hey question "all men created equal" hahaha haha you know what we mean and here we are today
At the end of the movie, the frame of the house that's being rebuilt by Martin's former men, including the former bigot and the former slave, is supposed to be symbolic of that, in that they've laid the frame of the "building" (Country), but it would more time for that promise to be fulfilled, to all Americans..
@@kendog52361the real Benjamin had slaves who he beat and possibly killed he was made into a ideal person not a realistic or factual portrayal but then again it’s Hollywood let’s make some money
'But I am the widowed father of five children. I do not have the luxury of principles in this matter. Inasmuch as I will not fight, I will not vote.'
While we all talk about legislatures and tyrants, Benjamin Martin's priorities in this scene are **precisely** where they should be. There is no safety net in 1776, no system of protection for his children should he die in war. If he dies, then his children will not eat. Those he has hired to help work his land will not be paid. Taxmen, carpet baggers [to use the Reconstruction era term], and lawyers will use the law to whittle his land down piece by piece for a profit and his children will inherit nothing. His sons will be sharecroppers on the land they grew up upon and his daughters prey to any marriage proposal that might come along for girls with no dowries. Going to war at this minute would throw away all that he spent his building and fighting for and sell his family into destitution. THOSE are the stakes for Capt. Benjamin Martin.
There are many tyrants in this world that prevent us from doing as we might otherwise wish to do. One of those tyrants is called 'duty', and Martin is all too aware of his duty to his family.
Levying taxes was a big issue for the Continental Congress. They just couldn’t get much from the colonies.
He had it right the first time we traded 1 tyrant for another and we ended up paying more taxes than we did then.
Tax on tea for coffee drinkers leads to rebellion!
I wish they had not stopped the dialog there -- because we'll soon be going through something like this again and the Americans that will fight this time may not be prepared for the horrors and the fog of war. Granted, it is a just and necessary cause, but this will be paid dearly
Mel Gibson plays a man with a family who opposes war and wishes to stay out of it until his love ones are killed and then he joins a revolutionary struggle against a tyrannical power….
Now he’s done this before.
goated movie
LOL. The movie is 100 percent inaccurate. Why are the colonists not speaking with british accent????
South Carolina is the first one to leave British America
And theres not a man in this room or anywhere that i would more willingly trust my life
What happened to this nation, I'll tell you what happened, we forgot God, and now we are under judgement
When did America become the holy land for Jews isn’t that Israel job
Wasn't he already doing that when you had more slavery and colonial wars?
Being an extra would be so fun.
What a great scene, showing a time in America when principles and honor really mattered. Sadly these days are now gone. The men debating these measures in the South Carolina had an average age of 30. Take a look at the ages of the men below who signed the Declaration of Independence:
James Monroe, 18
Aaron Burr, 20
Alexander Hamilton, 21
James Madison, 25
Thomas Jefferson, 33
John Hancock, 39
John Adams, 40
Paul Revere, 41
George Washington, 44
Our "men" now are feeble minded, self-satisfying, content to their own pleasures with no forethought of honor or duty. The men in the Americas of the 1700s would laugh at the fools who populate America today.
Although you are right, the many reasons more people are feeble minded are because of sodium fluoride (neurotoxin), bisphenol A (feminizes men), aspartame (neurotoxin), monosodium glutamate (excitotoxin), prescription drugs and other lab made medicines. Bertrand Russell even said diet, injections and injunctions will combine from a very early age, to produce the sort of the character the authorities consider desirable. Aldous Huxley in Brave New World references a scientific dictatorship, using pharma drugs as a euphoric and getting people to love their servitude.
@@nogreatreset8506sad
we do not see this underlying matter
Love the way there is a rampant mouse running over the screen1
Mel Gibson is the best
yes mel gibson is the best
It's disturbing how relevant this scene is in today's america 🤔
Well, the first ever Ukrainian Congresswoman Victoria Spartz is...not running for reelection because she doesn't want to be a meaningless useless prop. That's all that one really needs to know about the " new and improved " America. Slow Curtain, The End.
A new revolutionary idea: an American nation
The spanish americans traded a tyrant that lived 3,000 miles away( the king of Spain) for 3.000 tyrants who live one mile away( the so called liberators).
Cut short!!
so cool man
1🇺🇸🌈🎄🏴☠️🏆☕🍕🥷🏽🏈 AND WHAT ABOUT TRUMP AND THIS AFFAIR WITH ISRAEL!?!? WHAT CAN BE SAID OF THAT!!!!
Their attire back then looked very uncomfortable lol
is he... oh....
and umm, yeah,.....
William Wallace
Joker
Norman Osborne Marc Webbs version joining the American Revolution to fight for independence and freedom. To fight against King George and his British Army
Dis they play this movie in the UK on July 4th upon its release 😂? Asking for a British friend 😂
Tomahawk time but who do we focus on
To exemplify how lowbrow this travesty of history is, he tells him he was at Bunker's Hill where blah blah blah... Except that was at Breed's Hill.
why should i trade a tyrant in Portland, for a tyrant in Boise?
-eastern Oregon 2024
Taxation without representation
Mel Gibson has fought against England twice
A whole different generation of men we haven’t seen since. These men were the first to fight and disobey a King to freedom. Only time in history it happened this way as far as we know.
Of course, no other nation in the history of the world has EVER overthrown a king or a tyrant. You Americans are something else !!!
@@be.stoic1985 Yes we are. The most free and prosperous nation in the world.
@@donmcc6573 You forgot delusional
@@be.stoic1985 That would be the condition of America haters.
@@donmcc6573 What about Rome & France? I guess they're a figment of our imaginations?
And without Benjamin Martin he wouldn't have assisted the wounded rebels?
What if Thomas had enlisted in the British Army?
Plumber
Take back our water
Thank God the French helped you lot, couldn't fight sleep without Spanish French Dutch help, read history 😊
Thank you, my American friend, you are the first to mention Spain as a war ally against the British in the American Revolution.
Until the day of today I am convinced the independence of the 13 colonies was a miracle of God. And what a wonderful miracle.
That was no miracle, more like a set up. You think America was discovered just by chance?? The land was already occupied by natives, but the arrogance of the white man dictates otherwise. History is far more deceptive than it lets us know.
Agreed 100%! 🇺🇸
Yes, yes it does
Remember growing up thinking this movie was actually good…