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Looking into Time's unreleased songs
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2021
- There are several songs that were cut from ELO's Time when it made the transition from being a double album to a single album. Some of the songs made their way to the public as B-sides on singles, and were later included on the CD rerelease of the album. However, there are two cut songs that have never been heard - in this video, I discuss what we know about them.
thanks to the ELO subreddit for helping me out here!
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I never knew some ELO fans dislike this album. To me, this album is on the same level as "Out Of The Blue".
It sucks that Time could've been a lot more fleshed out and more jam packed.
Alas! Maybe we'll get these songs in 2095.
"Time" and "Out of the Blue" are both easily in my top favorite albums of all time list, while OotB is probably slightly higher on my list, 21st Century Man is my favorite single track from ELO.
Here is the news; we’ll just have to wait and see!
2095?
Is that what you want?
I agree that Time would have been more popular had the missing pieces been included.
There's been an update on Sad Affair! The person who originally posted the lyrics on was Brendan Higgs, who _is_ mentioned in the "thank you"s of Time's inner sleeve, meaning what he said WAS true. However - the owner of Time's 5-20-81 acetates confirmed there is no track that fits the description shown in the post, so it's likely that Sad Affair was a song demoed by Jeff in 1981, and NOT track B3.
Time is my favorite album from ELO
same!
The very first album I ever bought.
@@roobenn I feel you will enjoy Daicon IV. It uses Prologue and Twilight, and became a highly referenced part of Japanese animation culture -- invoked even in Five Star Stories, and Densha Otoko. It was made by 12 students as a love-letter asking, "what if we put aside our petty arguments and cooperate? Can something beautiful come of that?" and the lead animator, Hideki Anno (who would go on to do Evangelion) is a very big ELO fan, having essentially made a music video for the two tracks as an opening video for a live convention, which was only finished 45 minutes before the event.
I remember having it on a grainy VHS tape. Showing a family member this, they put the LP of time onto a cassette for me. When the tape broke, I got another. It was the very first album I brought for myself when I was old enough. We still regularly sing the whole song when travelling back from the airport when I visit them, even though now I'm decades older. It has simply become tradition.
Time is a magical album, and it led me to the rest of ELO. A magical time to be sure.
Это любимый альбом любого русского фаната Джеффа)
When time stood still is one of my favorite songs from ELO
same! it has such a haunting atmosphere to it - shame it wasn’t included on the album
My favorite album from ELO. It's a banger. Listened in my way through high school to 2013 to 2015.
My favorite ELO album is On The Third Day.
@@RyanBigger very very underrated. i listened it recently. i listened through more than other more popular albums like A New World Record or Face the Music. It's very cohesive, I have Showdown in the middle. And my favorites songs are Ocean Breakup/King of the Universe, New World Rising, Daybreaker, and Dreaming of 3000.
@@cesarmadero05You’ve got such awesome taste in music
Some of my favourites are King Of The Universe/Ocean Breakup and Dreaming of 4000 too!
This album it's absolutely amazing it's pure magic
absolutely agreed, thank you for watching! proud to own it on vinyl :)
No true ELO fan dislikes this album, trust me !!!
Got that right
I'm a huge fan of this album, and I thought your commentary was very insightful.
thank you! :)
Hi there! I met Brendan Higgs a couple of times through a friend. He came to my wedding in 1996 and gave me as a wedding gift 2 tapes containing 2 unreleased songs, knowing I was a huge ELO fan. One of the tapes contained Sad Affair. It definitely sounds like a track from the Time sessions. It might have been me that posted the lyrics on that website. I was searching for another copy of the song because sadly, I had let someone borrow the tape to dub it back in the late 90s and it was lost. I was (and am) a member of the Showdown ELO fan club and I think that’s where I posted the lyrics that I remembered. I still remember Joe the song goes, too. But it exists only in my head until I can get another copy. It’s not that great of a song, to be honest. Jeff made the right call to leave it off the album. If you’d like to know the melody and how it goes, contact me and we can set something up.
*how the song goes
Why would you lent out the one and only copy, though? Either make a copy for your friend or make a backup for yourself and then lent out the tape 😑
Had a musician friend who turned me on to, "Here is the News" because he was enchanted by it.
... and when you listen to how "news" is presented today... it's amazing how visionary TIME and Lynne was, in his brilliant portrayal of how superficial it would all become.
One thing I don’t hear people bring up is the interludes between tracks, which are often sourced from other tracks on the album (such as the isolated strings and backing vocals from the chorus of “21st Century Man” or the isolated strings of “Rain is Falling” being sped up and reversed as the intro to “The Way Life’s Meant to Be”). At the end of “Twilight,” just as the sampled pinball machine noises lead into “Yours Truly, 2095,” there’s a reversed string section that sounds like nothing else on the album (or the released bonus tracks). My best bet is that this is sourced from one of the two cut tracks (most likely “Time Transporter”).
One of ELO's best but overlooked for some reason, from start to finish it's a beautiful story told by song👍👍
My thought: 'With a brand new time transporter, they think maybe i fought to get away.
But with all their great inventions, and all their good intentions here I stay!'
From the song 'Rain is falling' on Time.
Best concept album of all time.
Thanks for this video! I love the colours and how well paced the video was. No fluff. The only thing confusing about this is that it really took RUclips a whole year to recommend a video about unreleased songs I had no idea about on my favourite album EVER?!
thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed, and glad that a few more people are being shown this video! :)
Not only my favorite ELO album, my favorite album period.
I always though that the little thing before Hold On Tight on Flashback, was Time Transporter
When Time Stood Still is an interesting song. What event caused time to stand still? Does it refer to the Time Traveller in some way? There are suggestions that it refers to the death of John Lennon. And that's what made 'time stand still'. Some words in the lyrics could be hinting at this. 'Submarine' is the most obvious one. 'Plastic flowers' from 'Lucy in the Sky'. Other words are obscure. 'Art' references could point to trained artist Yoko. 'Marble Halls' was where they lived in New York. The whole tone of the lyrics is gloomy, so that fits. But do the dates of Lennon’s death, December 1980, fit with the record? It was recorded in early 1981, so yes, it was possible, but it’s more likely the song had been written some time before December 1980. Has Jeff ever given a clue about its meaning, I wonder.
Time is my favorite album ever made. Its the reason i discovered ELO and Jeff Lynne. I bought it after hearing only 2 songs from it, absolutely loved it, then went on to buy album after album of ELO, totally blind. And now ELO is among my top 3 bands of all time!
As of the day of me watching this video, I had found a RUclipsr who restored the original Double Album version of Time. Which feature "The Bouncer, When Time Stood Still, and Julie Don't Live Here''. They also added a remixed version of an unreleased song from Discovery called, "Second Time Around" to fit in with the narrative. here's a playlist I made of Parts 1-4 ruclips.net/p/PLlzTqBoXFEefIg7zas8cF_9o9bzM88MbT
He should have added Time After Time from Secret Messages as well.
@@RodBeauvex Too new for Time, it was recorded months after Time's release
Interesting video, but the intro to Hold On Tight ("Time Transporter") on Flashback actually starts as a tag to "Getting To The Point" which is the track before.
When I immersed myself in ELO's TIME in the 80's, it immediately conjured up a sense of nostalgia for the era I was actually living in... making me APPRECIATE the decade I was growing up in (knowing the future would soon catch up with the relative simplicity of present day life)... now, 40 years later, I still appreciate how rich, vibrant, innocent and hopeful the 80's were... as compared to the fast pace, dehumanizing technology and the lack of actual depth we currently face as we race onwards in a rush to erase history and pretend to create "something better".
Time was my introduction to ELO. From that starting point, they only get better.
I personally love Time and can't imagine how anyone could dislike it, it's sublime. While "Out of the Blue" remains my favorite overall album by ELO, Time holds the distinction of having my favorite single track by them, which is 21st Century Man.
....i was at the Time Tour Buffalo show in 1981 .... INCREDIBLE!
Hold on Tight has never really for the album for me... I have long wondered it if was just left-over from Xanadu. Twilight also seems like it could have easily replaced I'm Alive in the film. Just wondering how the 2 projects evolved and how they might be co-mingled in their production.
Some of these lyrics seem a bit Beatles-y, mentioning submarines and plastic flowers. Is Jeff Lynne also looking back to his younger days too, at this point, considering his ELO career, and band that he predominantly drove, song-wrote, and produced, and the acknowledging the Beatles influence on his writing and the ELO sound?
TIME is to ELO what Sgt. Pepper is to the Beatles.
Yeah, except TIME is a really good album and ELO is a really good band
I love this album and its adventure into a new style and storyline! Who wants everything to sound the same all the time? Great experiment, I feel. Anyway, why don't we ask Jeff about these songs? Thankfully he's still with us! 💖
thanks for watching! I would love to hear Jeff talk about this but sadly he’s usually pretty guarded in interviews
@@roobenn I also imagine that 40 years after working on it, he'd have forgotten some things!
It's interesting that the album's name is time. I've listened to the album ever since it was released. And more the years each time, it sounds different and greater than it was the last time.
One of my favourites 😍 I have to play the entire album very loudly 🌌🛸🌌
Thanks for the great music analysis from this wonderful album time, awesome work from you 👌👌🎶🎶🎶❤️🎼🎧⌚⌚⌚
As a true ELO fan i really enjoy 'Time' but i absolutely love deluxe with bonus tracks 'Time'.
People failed to realise that bands evolve; Jeff just moved ELO in a direction no-one expected, but given that electronic music started to rule the charts from '81, Jeff was at the leading edge of the wave.
If you put "When Time Stood Still" after "Yours Truly; 2095" and "Julie Don't Live Here" at the very end of the album, it suddenly becomes a very dark album indeed (watch the film "Interstellar" if you don't know what I mean and bear in mind this album was released over thirty years BEFORE that film).
As far as "Bouncer" goes, it feels like it belongs more to "Secret Messages" than "Time" because of it's sound
Twilight it's amazing. Really LOVE this album. Really cool video, good info.
thank you! my absolute favourite album and one of my favourite songs :)
Hi Rooben, cool video. Have you listened to Klaatu's space pop-opera album 'Hope'?
My favourite ELO Album from the genius that is Jeff Lynne - Rock Legend 👍🎸🥁🎹🎼!!!!!!
I've heard that the basic melody was reused for the end of Getting to the Point off of Balance of Power.
Fabulous album
If anyone wants nominations for a lost track from Time, mine is from another Jeff Lynne-produced album: Dave Edmund's Information. Neither he nor Jeff wrote the song, but when stitching together cassette versions of extended Time playlists, I would always include..."The Watch On My Wrist". Listen to it and say if it doesn't exactly fit the same niche as "Julie Don't Live Here".
Honestly, I think all three of the 80s albums are really great.
You are looking for lost tracks or songs. I think some of these still are there on the album. They are used as coda, chorus or bridges.Maybe intro, outro. LikeTIME TRANSPORTER used in ELO's RAIN ARE FALLING.
So, I booked a trip to Japan
and headed to the Domino's Pizza Headquarters in Tokyo
People don't like Time?! It's such a magnificent album, even if it's not the same as their other music.
The Bouncer is an absolute gem of a song I've just learned it on guitar, my favourite ELO album is Eldorado I prefer the classical elements and I think that is ELO's sound, still its a massive shame they weren't able to fully finish the Time album.
Try the expanded version on CD with the orchestral overture bonus track....magnificent.
I remember buying my first ELO double cassette which had the Time and On The Third Day albums back in the early 1980s.
MY all time favorite album
Times change technology change music changed
It's truly a masterpiece from the 80s why so many people tend to compare this to music from the it doesn't make sense it's all great at different times.
I might have written to some of the members of ELO directly had I been looking into this. But, hwy, I'm not a detective or anything. So what would I know?.
One of my favorite albums of all time it's very eclectic and just different, l found Julie don't live here any more was on after glow box set loved it ❤️
BTW, I was the one who edited the Wikipedia page. Just thought I'd let you know, great video!
Edit: You should really join the ELO Discord. We would love to have you in here.
thank you! I’ll definitely join :)
@@roobenn Great!
ELO stopped being good after Secret Messages (1983) and after they binned the orchestra for good. Balance of Power (1985) was ehh and Zoom (2001) just didn't sound like ELO.
But Time stands out as unique. A complete break from everything that came before, and also after. It sounds nothing like either Secret Messages or Discovery (1979), and is their only work to tell a cohesive end-to-end story.
Also, if you hadn't heard Time in its entirety and then tried to listen to ELO's greatest hits compilation you'd find it made absolutely no sense out of context. You wouldn't understand the reference to 1981 in The Way Life's Meant To Be, for example.
Good observation, since TIME wasn't an album for "singles"... it was a true "concept album" !
After the box office failure of Xanadu, Time was written as a soundtrack to a film that never happened
Unlikely
@@leestockton9367 Time WAS written as a soundtrack to a film that never happened. It was written in the hopes that a film would be made based on it, but it never got off the ground
Most fans love Time. Certainly not marmite. And tbh it is perfect as originally released. Another Heart Breaks is one of the albums key tracks. Julie would have been a great addition
I wonder what happens to discarded stuff, does it get trashed or set aside by Jeff for a rainy day?
roughly 10 or 15 years ago I thought that Time was corny and cheesy, but I’ve been on a ELO deep-dive lately and I love Time; I like that it’s adventurous.
Haters are always in the wrong (it's easier to hate, and many people are lazy. Negativity draws more and faster engagement and engagement is usually all people really want)
Time is their best. Time is a masterpiece. I often forget just how good it is until I re-listen, every time.
A masterpiece 😊
It's their best album.
It's about time!
Great video!
I think we should change the speculative name of Sad Affair to Bad Salad
I've loved this album ever since it's release in 1981. And the 'sound' isn't totally out of the blue, not really. I betcha the Band's work on the "Xanadu" movie soundtrack and other Sci-Fi/Time Travel stories rolling around at the time helped provide a backdrop for inspiration. But that still doesn't answer the 'Julie' question. Was she also a telephone?
I think Julie was left behind, and when he finished his transportation through time, he went to see if she was still there!
@@robertchapman6795 Exactly... "phones" would become the modern version of a real "companion"... how far off was Jeff Lynne?
@@cdncitizen4700 Hi. This is my phone, she has an IQ of 1001. Her name is Alexa, AKA Siri. She ALWAYS knows what I want. I can make her look however I please. If I get tired of her looks, I just change her hair, face, boob to hip ratio! I’m in love!
I’m pretty sure Julie was a real woman. No one would miss a phone!? 🤔🤷♂️😳
Good points. But concidering how good songs Jeff made on 'Time' in contrast the cover is poor, almost made rushed or with little 'time' on their hands... (always wondered about that since the 1976, 1977 and 1979 were amazing)..
can definitely see where you’re coming from though I really like the cover of Time! I find the colours really pleasing. Thanks for watching :)
For me Time is nr. 1 and Secret Messages a close second.
very odd . i have a copy of flashback but hold on tight doesn't have that intro
The intro is on the end of "Getting To The Point" (that precedes it) on Flashback.
@@thedude7980 oOO.. thank.. i'll dig out my copy and have a listen
I like how everytime I hear anyone on the internet say anything about ELO it is something such as a specific album being the collectively agreed upon worst album, and this album switches every time. I hardly ever see anyone talk about ELO online and when someone does these kinds of statements always gets thrown around. I've never heard anyone say Time is bad, in fact I've mostly heard people diss Balance of Power and Zoom but that is rare as well.
Is it that unusual for a group of fans to discuss what may or may not be the worst album - for any band? I’m sure there’s discussion amongst Journey fans about what may be their worst album, or Beatles fans about what may be their worst album. I think it’s a natural conversation for fans of any band, and is in no way insulting to ELO.
And there are those who don’t care for this album so much. I was less than enamored the first time I heard it, but it’s really really grown on me.
@@jillshinault9442 I don't care if anybody discusses it rather I find it funny how this 'collectively agreed upon worst album' changes all the time.
I am the marmite of the world
this is the marmite of all time
I love marmite and ELO but vegemite and ELO even more.
Doooduummmmmm dddodddouummm
JEFF LYNN is still alive & well so why don't you ask the man the question
would if I could 😔
"the devil finds work for idle hands to do" and yes, TIME is one of the best ELO conceptual album IMO