@@reducedfaticecreamisjustde1447that’s what I do with my 60lb takedown recurve. Makes it feel like a 20lb bow. You don’t really feel it until you try to hold it at full draw hahaha
So first off, you say midevil artwork shows you how to shoot, but that's not to say the artist new how to shoot a bow or how to properly depicted it. The reason why we shoot bows the way we do today is, yes because we have lighter bows, but also we draw in a way to prevent injury. This way with this draw weight is how you do serious damage to your back and shoulders. They don't care much about that in the midevil days.
From the story of a man in 1549 explaining how his father taught him archary. "He taught me how to draw, how to lay my body in the bow, and not to draw with strength of arms as other nations do, but with the strength of the body."
@@knight1544back then people were way more in tune with the reality around them because they literally couldn’t know what the outer world around them was like. in a way they lived in their own bubble as if nothing else existed and maybe that’s why they feel so strongly written.
My grandfather always taught me that the the tool does all the work, so if you are doing something that you are good at and you have changed your tool, now it's become really difficult, switch back to your original tool. They make tools for a reason, and that's to make the job easier, quicker, and allowing the tool to do all the work. He wasn't a big man in stature, but he could put 4 20 penny nails between his fingers and drive them through rough cut lumber with one swing of a 16oz. hammer, and he had forearms that put Popeye to shame. The funny thing about it was that he never looked liked he was putting any effort into driving those nails, it was all in his wrist and his ability to hit the center of that nail every time. My great grandfather was the exact same way, he was a lumberjack/hellraiser. But, before a man could cut down a tree with a chainsaw, he would have have three on the ground using an axe, it all came from four perfectly placed hits, letting his axe do all the work, and two straight cuts on the opposite side, and a tree with a 12" to 16" diameter was heading for the ground, and he was already 1/4 through the next tree. So with all that effort into firing one arrow and the biggest enemy of the Chinese was the Mongolian's who were archers off of horse calvary, and probably shooting 5-10 arrows to every one being shot at them, who really had the advantage, especially if the Mongolians were as accurate as they were fast, and they weren't stationary targets.
I immediately thought about Mathias with that little fucking spiked mase arrow head that flung that guy 20 or so feet, Scorpion King was that movie mane👌🏾😮💨😮💨
Really demonstrates how silly all those movie scenes are where the archers hold their warbows at full draw aimed at the protagonist for an extended period like it's nothing.
@@m1chi13l Yea longbows being a dexterity-based weapon instead of a strength-based one in basically every medieval/fantasy tabletop RPG kind of drives me up the wall actually. An 8 strength/20 dexterity ranger should actually be garbage with that kind of heavy bow compared to the 20 strength/8 dexterity fighter, but it's the other way around.
@@carsonm7292because the higher dexterity would theoretically be able to shoot more arrows. Also not every bow has ridiculous draw strength like in the video
As a Swiss (if I am not wrong) traveller of 15th century describet English archers - "I have never seen larger men, and their arms seemed as if made of iron".
Probably because many cultures, such as the Romans (Greeks too iirc, but that might've depended on the time period) saw it as cowardly. It also works out different muscles, and far from all war bows are as heavy as his
@@GrimmReaperRL 160-180 was the standard for english WAR longbows thats why it was even made by law that children had to be teached the correct and daily use of bows, that and the enorm need of practise to hit a moving target consistenly
Just remember that you should feel the tension not just in the upper shoulders, but also just below your shoulder blades. That is your Romboid muscle, and is what is known as the "back tension" muscle. If you can focus the weight of the bow from the arms, to the shoulders and upper back, you can draw more and more powerful bows.
Ikr? I love how l can't find any karen comments or purists of one style nitpicking his technique, like shooting on the right so his hand is the arrow rest. People recognize that unless you can shoot that bow more accurately, you sit the hell down. 😂
I must admit I find myself being more zynical on the internet. But this guy is so good at what he does yet he is so humble, you just can't have a negative mindset when seeing his content :)
I read a Norman account of being ambushed by Welsh in the 11 century, they would fire from very short range, within 15 meters, direct line of sight, no lofting the arrows. He talked about one knight taking a shot in the leg that penatrated his mail, passed through the thigh, out the other side, through the horse, killing the animal. The power those things could generate was frightening, at longer ranges they are very hard to be accurate and take many years to master. If the English lost an archer it was a bad loss as they took so long to train.
There were hunting bows and closer range archers that shot like 50lb bows and could do that Most of these ridiculous draw weighs were for castle archers and the like lobbing arrows in from far range
@@kevinb314 That's why I stick to somewhere in the middle. Currently pulling 90-110# and that is definitely more than enough for me. Also; Most of these heavy bows resemble the ones found on the Mary Rose. So they were also used for warfare at sea. Not to mention the hundreds upon hundreds of artwork showing bowmen use their bows as infantry. It's not limited to castles. That can be said about crossbows, because you needed something to hide behind whilst someone reloaded the crossbow.
Not just the weekend too, right? Wasn’t the whole «advertisement « so to speak to the farmers that owning a warbow was an investment, as it could put meat on their tables from hunting?
at certain points, it was law for males of fighting age to have bows/arrows, practice archery, and there were bans on games that were deemed to conflict with archery practice. A subjects work is never complete. the same principle is behind the "militia" ideology of the, particularly younger, United States, or ukraines ban on all males leaving ukraine, in order to create more deaths.,
He dissed the J’s. My fellow niggas that out the hood and went to an Ivy League school. Time to use that minor degree in jumping and curb stomp this heretic.
He is pulling 185lbs like it's nothing in comparison to modern bows. A compound bow only needs about 40lbs of pull weight to drop a large deer. Same with a recurve so 185lbs in a medieval version of modern recurve bows could put a hole in a stone wall if the arrow is strong enough.
When I look at modern 40-45# bows and distinctly recall that I used to shoot a "typical" 75# bow...This is the first time in DECADES that I'd had confirmation I used a heavier bow. THANK YOU.
I mean... it is, you can't take those illustrations at face value, a lot of it are artists interpretation of things they don't understand very well. but that doesn't mean some are not accurate, specially if its specifically about the subject, like manuals.
Yes, it very much depends on the arrow. A sharp arrow head can be fatal even with a toy bow if it hits on the right place. And a 180Ib warbow with 100gram arrow will be as powerful as a modern hunting compound bow, I think.
DeSoto complained of soldiers being hit with Native American arrows in the southeast being pinned to trees. New Englanders also had similar complaints in the following centuries.
I hunted and shot my compound on 85# draw with leather fingers and it after a few arrows it started to hurt. This dudes got strong fingers. Most use a trigger release and can't pull with just fingers lol
Finally someone who showed drawing techniques. You can also get your bow upward and lower it for similar effects, and try different grip adapted to the bow usage.
Awesome. I was watching a doco on the longbow archers at the Battle of Towton and the pics/tapestries show the stances. Made me realise what I know about archery is from art. I have only just started myself (September) and love it. Not good at it lol but love it and the Asiatic bow and longbows are my favs. And someone at our club has The Way of Archery Book. Too cool. Thank you for these videos. Learning so much.
The archery community in my experience is full of elitists “you can’t shoot a bow like that it’s wrong” type shit, who knows. Met far more educated and supportive people in shooting guns.
@@elkpants1280 I’ve got both, and practice both. Every community has them, but I don’t care what someone else says. Whether they have comments about my trap shooting or my traditional archery. I’ll challenge them to a shoot off and I’ll let the scoreboard speak for itself.
it took my brain a little to comprehend that the weight meant the draw weight, not the actual bow. 1.5 of me dangling from the string would be needed to draw the bow (edit: apparently it's even more complicated than that, see second comment down, by Dakota Rossman, for actual explanation). that's amazing.
Its 160 lbs, but it's drawn in a far different manner than just pulling it back. You are pushing the bow and pulling the string at the same time and you are using your back. You back is extremely strong and can easily over come the weight with the correct draw method and training. Although, the firing of these bows and training in there use resulted in drastic changes to the muscle in the back as well as deformations in the skeleton. It really is something else, most archers started young and were trained into this weight making it second nature to wield.
The common idea is that medieval archers were small scrawny men when in fact, they were extremely strong and muscular because of having to pull these heavy bows. Edit: sorry about the misspell, what the fuck is going on in the comments 😂
@@danielantony1882 No they didn't. You're reaching. It was clearly implied they meant the draw weight, unless you're too stupid, or intentionally ignorant
One other thing I might add, the skeletal structure of longbowmen becomes severely disfigured after a lifetime of draw and release on the longbow. Presumably, the muscular system as well. Just a cool bit of info
That's a bit of a false positive. You have to remember outside of war, Welsh/English bowmen, were almost exclusively farmers, hence the term "yeoman archers". The enlarged right side, is more likely from regular farm work favoring the right side. Because how much time is spent practicing war vs farming?
@@ISAFSoldier Is that kind of deformity common among farmers of the same period whose kings did not use longbowmen in their armies? If so, I can see that being another cause. However, the training needed to use a longbow was supposedly decades long and requires a lot of practice. Even if you were a farmer by trade, I imagine you would not have your skeleton altered as much if you used a crossbow in the French army for example.
@@Crusader-tg1wx I'll preface that I havent been able to find such records between farmers, so admittedly this is a theory based on inference and anecdotal evidence. What I put together however, is how english law only requires practicing of bow shooting of such heavy bows once a week for one hour, sure their might be some who would practice for longer, but I'llget to that. This amount of time even for an entirety of ones isnt enough by itself to create such a deformity. Secondly, the reading and research into medieval shooting guilds, I havent run into such records for such deformities here, and this would be where you'd have the highest chances of finding deformities among such individuals because they're always shooting from the records. Third, whenever I do have soreness from shooting a 100lb longbow, it isnt the described areas of deformity. On a slightly related note, back when I first started HEMA the soreness I got from tossing cuts with a longsword included fell closer in line with the deformity records.
That’s so interesting! I’ve seen paintings like this and thought the illustrators were just unskilled, but they were capturing something vital to the archers deadly technique 😮
@@OmmerSyssel This conversation dovetails nicely with the work done by Christopher Schwarz over at Lost Art Press. Dude has poured over old prints and paintings to produce his no-nonsense books of traditional woodworking.
@@spades9681 What is the purpose of this comment dude lol? I’m literally admitting that I was wrong and over 100 people had a similar misunderstanding and your comment adds nothing of value to the convo except to say, “Don’t be wrong stupid. Try being right. It’s way better. I would know, I’m right a lot.” 😂
Imagine the handshake from a medieval english archer who shot a 200 lbs bow for and hour everyday, pitched hay to his cattle and milked them morning and night.
The fact that he drew back a 160lb now AND did it barehanded is insane. My hands are like leather and I’d only be able to do that a few times before I said “never again” lol. Seems like he’s done it a few DOZEN at least
@@samgyeopsal569 they’re still warbows so yeah they are. It’s not like the bows that heavy anyway, it’s the draw from the string. Doesn’t necessarily mean that 160lbs is what you have to pull, just that’s the tension on this bow, the weight is equivalent to the force you exert technically though.
@@sweatysack9103 I'm sorry, was that supposed to be English? I'm gonna need an interpreter for this broken attempt at communication. Enjoy your sweaty sacks, Captain Hetero.
Best review ever you need to do one of these every 2 1/2 weeks to a month it’s fucking genius. It’s so funny my stomach is hurting from laughter. That is awesome. Implement us in a certain part. Trust me people love this kind of honesty and laughter.💯🤷🏽♂️
Well the fact that mideval archers quite literally grew up shooting heavy, yew longbows and developed muscle memory and strength that makes modern archers look like children...
I got a compound bow last year and haven't had the opportunity to mess with it like i would like. Love the idea of messing with more archery. This looks awesome.
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I bet there was definitely a time in history where a warrior lost his bow, and an enemy tried to use it and couldn’t pull it back
Obviously
The second level of course being that the only reason that might have never happened is because they already knew full well they couldn't do it.
Probably the 12th highest number of deaths in medieval war
Gotta be
At least top 20
@@grass-touched 1 is disease or malnutrition for sure
@@ericolsen5592 infection and exhaustion is probably also up there as well
"It doesn't look nice"
Uh sir, that looked fucking beautiful.
facts man
Guy with arrow in his eye: def didnt feel nice
Agreed
That ‘sir’ addition wins the internet for today
@@skys6655 at 180lb draw weight you mean “guy with a hole through his skull”.
"this doesn't look nice" pulls the most historical accurate stance on the internet.
maybe another trick is to push away with the grip and pull the drawstring at the same time.
Amazing what applying the physical limitations that existed historically can do
@@reducedfaticecreamisjustde1447that’s what I do with my 60lb takedown recurve. Makes it feel like a 20lb bow. You don’t really feel it until you try to hold it at full draw hahaha
So first off, you say midevil artwork shows you how to shoot, but that's not to say the artist new how to shoot a bow or how to properly depicted it. The reason why we shoot bows the way we do today is, yes because we have lighter bows, but also we draw in a way to prevent injury. This way with this draw weight is how you do serious damage to your back and shoulders. They don't care much about that in the midevil days.
@@kingxpawnthe spelling is egregious
From the story of a man in 1549 explaining how his father taught him archary. "He taught me how to draw, how to lay my body in the bow, and not to draw with strength of arms as other nations do, but with the strength of the body."
Bro I swear stories back then we're so magnetically written
@@knight1544 knights don't say bro u fuckin knave
@@knight1544back then people were way more in tune with the reality around them because they literally couldn’t know what the outer world around them was like. in a way they lived in their own bubble as if nothing else existed and maybe that’s why they feel so strongly written.
My grandfather always taught me that the the tool does all the work, so if you are doing something that you are good at and you have changed your tool, now it's become really difficult, switch back to your original tool. They make tools for a reason, and that's to make the job easier, quicker, and allowing the tool to do all the work. He wasn't a big man in stature, but he could put 4 20 penny nails between his fingers and drive them through rough cut lumber with one swing of a 16oz. hammer, and he had forearms that put Popeye to shame. The funny thing about it was that he never looked liked he was putting any effort into driving those nails, it was all in his wrist and his ability to hit the center of that nail every time. My great grandfather was the exact same way, he was a lumberjack/hellraiser. But, before a man could cut down a tree with a chainsaw, he would have have three on the ground using an axe, it all came from four perfectly placed hits, letting his axe do all the work, and two straight cuts on the opposite side, and a tree with a 12" to 16" diameter was heading for the ground, and he was already 1/4 through the next tree.
So with all that effort into firing one arrow and the biggest enemy of the Chinese was the Mongolian's who were archers off of horse calvary, and probably shooting 5-10 arrows to every one being shot at them, who really had the advantage, especially if the Mongolians were as accurate as they were fast, and they weren't stationary targets.
Lays his body in the bow. Arrow falls on ground. But he has the ride of his life.
"It didn't look nice" if it works it works
That's orc language. Nothing better than that
If it looks stupid but it works it ain’t stupid
Hey guys he's showing us the secrets to pulling
I think it looked pretty nice and gnarly
Except it doesn’t work! There’s NO accuracy here. Distance sure, but not accuracy.
"It doesn't look nice"
adopts a badass Scorpion King stance
I immediately thought about Mathias with that little fucking spiked mase arrow head that flung that guy 20 or so feet, Scorpion King was that movie mane👌🏾😮💨😮💨
Loved the movie and the game as a kid fr lol
Hilarious
LMFAO true
Lol!!
Really demonstrates how silly all those movie scenes are where the archers hold their warbows at full draw aimed at the protagonist for an extended period like it's nothing.
Yeah, after learning more about bow, those type of scenes are becoming annoying
Or how thin female warriors run around with a bow as if it's a machine gun - I don't think it would do all that much damage at their draw strength
@@m1chi13l Yea longbows being a dexterity-based weapon instead of a strength-based one in basically every medieval/fantasy tabletop RPG kind of drives me up the wall actually. An 8 strength/20 dexterity ranger should actually be garbage with that kind of heavy bow compared to the 20 strength/8 dexterity fighter, but it's the other way around.
@@carsonm7292because the higher dexterity would theoretically be able to shoot more arrows. Also not every bow has ridiculous draw strength like in the video
Well archer soldiers probably arent out of breath while explaining how to shoot a bow either lol this guy isnt very strong
Why are archers depicted as feeble and boyish in media when in reality they were probably some of the most physically capable soldiers
maybe because they positioned on the backline not the front line?
Those feeble archers usually aren't using a big bow like this
As a Swiss (if I am not wrong) traveller of 15th century describet English archers - "I have never seen larger men, and their arms seemed as if made of iron".
Probably because many cultures, such as the Romans (Greeks too iirc, but that might've depended on the time period) saw it as cowardly. It also works out different muscles, and far from all war bows are as heavy as his
@@GrimmReaperRL 160-180 was the standard for english WAR longbows thats why it was even made by law that children had to be teached the correct and daily use of bows, that and the enorm need of practise to hit a moving target consistenly
"it doesn't look nice"
Proceds to do the most majestic centaur pose.
Centaur? I thought Cupid …
I had to make an audible whistle noise cuz it was so nice
@@OZScar-dm2qp well i mean it can be both except the dude needs another set of legs at his back then he will be more of centaur like.
That's what I'm saying
Never underestimate Centaur Pose.
Anyone learnt martial arts, know that mimicking animals is a technique too .
Dude just turned manpower to horsepower
“Doesn’t look nice” bro you look like a G
Grass?
My ops are also medieval soldiers
777
For real though 👏
@@Jae-jae1392 definitely talking about you.
Bro posed like Michaelangelo sculpted him
Stop 😂😂
Lmao
About to upgrade to a 40lb bow, and already after only shooting for a couple of months, the way you shoot is a lot more important than strength
Also, remember it's different muscles than being conventionally beefy.
It's all about the back and shoulder, rather than just the arm
Just remember that you should feel the tension not just in the upper shoulders, but also just below your shoulder blades. That is your Romboid muscle, and is what is known as the "back tension" muscle. If you can focus the weight of the bow from the arms, to the shoulders and upper back, you can draw more and more powerful bows.
@@joehutchcraft1675 And hurt yourself a lot less in the process.
Do you buy new bows frequently then??
"On todays episode of I Really Should Be Sleeping, I learn how to pull a longbow"
1:07 AM
12:15am
8:52am but I've been up since 2pm yesterday...
Bruh it's 4:13am here
4:24
This comment section is so wholesome that I'm considering taking up archery as a hobby. Great community.
Ikr? I love how l can't find any karen comments or purists of one style nitpicking his technique, like shooting on the right so his hand is the arrow rest. People recognize that unless you can shoot that bow more accurately, you sit the hell down. 😂
It's a bunch of nerds confirmation biasing. That's why you think it's a "community". 😂😂 I guarantee he's not doing it good. I promise you.
I must admit I find myself being more zynical on the internet. But this guy is so good at what he does yet he is so humble, you just can't have a negative mindset when seeing his content :)
Theres so many@@stephenstonge7968
@@mrarivv0007then actually show how to properly use it instead.
"It doesn't look nice."
turns into a greek god pose
most positive comment section I've ever seen
Agreed 👍
Daily Dose videos?
ikr! So wholesome 😄
@@AllergicFungus No. You?
Toxic people tend to not mess with people that can kill you with medieval weapons. We have some respect ya know..
I read a Norman account of being ambushed by Welsh in the 11 century, they would fire from very short range, within 15 meters, direct line of sight, no lofting the arrows. He talked about one knight taking a shot in the leg that penatrated his mail, passed through the thigh, out the other side, through the horse, killing the animal. The power those things could generate was frightening, at longer ranges they are very hard to be accurate and take many years to master. If the English lost an archer it was a bad loss as they took so long to train.
Manchu archers did the same thing when against Ming Army, they aim on their face at 10 meters.
very very interesting
That's quite an impressive feat of strength! More impressive than a heavy bench press or deadlift in my opinion.
"Doesn't look nice?" His form was majestic and without finger protection, we are not worthy.
There were hunting bows and closer range archers that shot like 50lb bows and could do that
Most of these ridiculous draw weighs were for castle archers and the like lobbing arrows in from far range
@@kevinb314 That's why I stick to somewhere in the middle. Currently pulling 90-110# and that is definitely more than enough for me. Also; Most of these heavy bows resemble the ones found on the Mary Rose. So they were also used for warfare at sea. Not to mention the hundreds upon hundreds of artwork showing bowmen use their bows as infantry. It's not limited to castles. That can be said about crossbows, because you needed something to hide behind whilst someone reloaded the crossbow.
Them English Farmers must have been some big boys. Doing all the farming and work and shooting 160+ lbs bows on the weekend.
Not just the weekend too, right? Wasn’t the whole «advertisement « so to speak to the farmers that owning a warbow was an investment, as it could put meat on their tables from hunting?
Actually most longbow men were welsh or from the north west of england. Most archers from the south were unreliable.
at certain points, it was law for males of fighting age to have bows/arrows, practice archery, and there were bans on games that were deemed to conflict with archery practice. A subjects work is never complete.
the same principle is behind the "militia" ideology of the, particularly younger, United States, or ukraines ban on all males leaving ukraine, in order to create more deaths.,
Yeoman.* It wasn't rural farmers doing sunday shooting that were using heavy warbows, but well-drilled and well-equipped semi-professional soldiers.
@@reecejulius9072 don't need such a heavy draw weight for hunting.
Bowman's stance is one of the names for this stance in Wushu as well... Finally, it makes sense 🙂
That image of a north Asian man drawing a heavy ass bow like that is probably one of the statistically most lethal sights on the planet over history.
I think you meant central asian, and there were deadly groups of bowmen around the world
Like lifting my freakin body weight with each arm. Crazy.
That’s not wat it meant that’s how much force u have to pull back with to pull the string back
@@losoloaded4188 that’s exactly what it meant
@@ascensionbeyond8413 he means the bow doesn't weight that much just the string
So it wouldn't be both hands
@@groyperfuhr4871 you do realise that you have to hold the bow steady with the other hand, dont you? You actually do half the work with each hand
"it doesn't look nice"
the force is strong with this one
I can’t believe the weights this guy can pull effortlessly. Insane
French knight: haha you look stoopid!
English longbowmen: you look dead.
english longbowman: arrow goes brrrr
French knight:no u
This is because the french learn from their mistakes
@Floron this is because the French learn from their mistakes
Longbows cant Pierce Plate
@@colechandler736
Longbows cant Pierce Plate
Dude literally would have shit his pants if he tried to hold that a ½sec longer
who told you he didn't
But a diamond would have come out, his cheeks clinched so tight.
@@walshy2116 we gotta do a sound edited version with a very short and loud fart as soon as he shoots the arrow
@@decespugliatorenucleare3780 and the diamond coming out, don't forget the diamond
@@soupflood lots of diamonds
This comment section has passed the vibe check
Not me asshole😮😮
Fr i love seeing people actually support someone for once
Dude is so modest, “doesn’t look nice” then gracefully slocked it
Dude you look like every emblem of an archer. I love that form.❤
"Doesn't look nice" dude I could make a silhouette out of your stance and it would look more dope than the Jordan logo
I was about to give you a like until you dissed the Jordan logo. That pose is art.
Than the Jordan logo? Yeah you lost me with that one
@@sherlock7898 He didn't dis it. He said that the silhouette of this would be even better. Relax. It's praise.
@@sherlock7898 LOL chill. Lemme compliment a man.
He dissed the J’s. My fellow niggas that out the hood and went to an Ivy League school.
Time to use that minor degree in jumping and curb stomp this heretic.
I thought dawg was just swinging around 185lbs like it was nothing lmao
Same 😭🤣
Horizontally yes lol
He is pulling 185lbs like it's nothing in comparison to modern bows. A compound bow only needs about 40lbs of pull weight to drop a large deer. Same with a recurve so 185lbs in a medieval version of modern recurve bows could put a hole in a stone wall if the arrow is strong enough.
@@Aetherion223 so that’s what would happen if gunpowder was never invented
Ain’t that basically just a ballista then. Or a ummm, plybolos thingy the Romans used
Thank you, you opened my eyes on how a slight change in position can drastically approve your strength in certain scenarios. This is awesome.
When I look at modern 40-45# bows and distinctly recall that I used to shoot a "typical" 75# bow...This is the first time in DECADES that I'd had confirmation I used a heavier bow. THANK YOU.
Dude pullin chicks at the club like “It doesn’t look nice but it’s illustrated in medieval chad artwork” as he pulls a dime with that majestic pose😂😂😂
I'm telling you somehow I'm sure this is true
This ended up being much funnier than I thought it would be 😅
She'll say hey big boy how strong is your other longbow skills?
“It’s doesn’t look nice”
Reality: Looks like a majestic ancient warrior
Majestic man boobs
It*
It*
NO LOL
It*
"It doesn't look nice"
Bro turned into Cupid 😭
You draw the bow from your heels up. And you start training a bowman with his grandfather.
You know what else doesn’t look nice? Someone’s eye when it’s been skewered by an arrow!
ask the king of england in 1066
@@HistoricalWeapons I thought he died
That depends on your point of view.
@@naenae669 Rumour has it he still has a pint or two in Royal Enfield.
@@JoeOvercoatWOW!!! 😃🤣🤣🤣
I always thought the illustrations strange poses were just a stylistic thing from artists of the time, but this makes sense
Learned that functionality in the most difficult way. Never underestimate some of those manuscripts haha
You thought correctly. Not trying to discredit anyone, but he should be doing an angular draw with that heavy of a bow, not linear.
I mean... it is, you can't take those illustrations at face value, a lot of it are artists interpretation of things they don't understand very well. but that doesn't mean some are not accurate, specially if its specifically about the subject, like manuals.
Native Americans did this historically too
@@tiffanyvalencia8415 Yeah, but not with 160 lb warbows.
I know any bow can kill you but that looks like it would kill the FUCK out of you!
Might even punch a nice hole in (some) armors
180 lb draw. If they're standing in a row, you might kill 3 people
That shit could go thru a human if no bones interfere u seen that force 😮
Yes, it very much depends on the arrow. A sharp arrow head can be fatal even with a toy bow if it hits on the right place.
And a 180Ib warbow with 100gram arrow will be as powerful as a modern hunting compound bow, I think.
DeSoto complained of soldiers being hit with Native American arrows in the southeast being pinned to trees. New Englanders also had similar complaints in the following centuries.
Was pulling a bow a 100 pound less than that over the week and it was hard. Dude is strong
"it doesn't look nice"
*TikTokers left the chat*
I don't get it
.......
@@asura8495 the joke is tiktok bad
Bro lol
@@rebelfriend1818 LMAO
my dumbass thought for a second that the bow itself was 185 pounds
The sheer force that missile would have may have shattered kingdoms in the past...
Me: taking notes. Also me: never needing this knowledge.
Holy crap! You pulled that bare fingered? Mad respect to you Sir!
actually not fully
@@BrokeAgain AcKsHuAlLy
@@BrokeAgain Actually the commen't didn't specified the fullness of the pull they was amazed about, so it is still right.
ya it looked painful
I hunted and shot my compound on 85# draw with leather fingers and it after a few arrows it started to hurt. This dudes got strong fingers. Most use a trigger release and can't pull with just fingers lol
Finally someone who showed drawing techniques. You can also get your bow upward and lower it for similar effects, and try different grip adapted to the bow usage.
This guy was in my 4th year project group, keep it up buddy!
185 pounds at 32 inches? Sounds like my d-
Librarian: "sir we are going to have to ask you to log off"
Funniest shit I've seen all day lmao
Wtf Lol…😲😂🤣
Nice 👍
“Log” meaning…
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“It doesn’t look nice”
Preforms a Flawless Stance and looked like he centered on his target
"It doesnt look nice"
*makes archery somehow even more dynamic and impressive and barely acknowledges it*
That is one of the coolest things I didn't know I needed to know.
Homie really looked like he time travelled from medievial times to flex on us
Genghis khan’s nephew over here flexin on us lmao
I am more impressed with how your hair stands up like that
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Nothing but honestly, love it😁
@@HistoricalWeapons bro it looks like shit
Everyday asians must blow your mind.
@@HistoricalWeapons approximately how many feet per second out of those bows? Also what is the arrow weight ?
Awesome. I was watching a doco on the longbow archers at the Battle of Towton and the pics/tapestries show the stances. Made me realise what I know about archery is from art. I have only just started myself (September) and love it. Not good at it lol but love it and the Asiatic bow and longbows are my favs. And someone at our club has The Way of Archery Book. Too cool. Thank you for these videos. Learning so much.
Excellent explanation and demonstration
Soldier 1: "Hey check out that archer, he looks stu...wow that's a lot of blood... it's mine..."
Underrated comment 😂😂😂😂
As soon as he got that pose, I recognized it from said artwork.
as soon as he tried it the modern way i knew he was going to have back pain.
"...and then you check how many armoured humans the arrow went through"
Dude...that was impressive.
Hats off to you, sir.
The archery community is so supportive. Really puts a smile on my face.
Agreed
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The archery community in my experience is full of elitists “you can’t shoot a bow like that it’s wrong” type shit, who knows. Met far more educated and supportive people in shooting guns.
@@elkpants1280 I’ve got both, and practice both. Every community has them, but I don’t care what someone else says. Whether they have comments about my trap shooting or my traditional archery. I’ll challenge them to a shoot off and I’ll let the scoreboard speak for itself.
Not really from what I’ve seen it is full of toxic elitists lol. This guy is one of the rare nice ones
it took my brain a little to comprehend that the weight meant the draw weight, not the actual bow. 1.5 of me dangling from the string would be needed to draw the bow (edit: apparently it's even more complicated than that, see second comment down, by Dakota Rossman, for actual explanation). that's amazing.
yeah its the pull weight
You could pull it, proper form, and disconcern for the task. You might be really good.
Its 160 lbs, but it's drawn in a far different manner than just pulling it back. You are pushing the bow and pulling the string at the same time and you are using your back. You back is extremely strong and can easily over come the weight with the correct draw method and training.
Although, the firing of these bows and training in there use resulted in drastic changes to the muscle in the back as well as deformations in the skeleton.
It really is something else, most archers started young and were trained into this weight making it second nature to wield.
@@captsploof that's way more impressive
@@yeetghostrat its not more complicated, you got it completely right.. 1,5 times your weight would be needed dangling from the string to pull it.
That looked SO badass. You dont realize how much force is in the bowstring toll you hear and feel that release!
That looked incredible bro that thing looks like it could take out an engine block haha
Hence, the phrase "put your back into it."
The common idea is that medieval archers were small scrawny men when in fact, they were extremely strong and muscular because of having to pull these heavy bows.
Edit: sorry about the misspell, what the fuck is going on in the comments 😂
Medical archers? Isn't that a huge conflict of interests?
@@TheBrushcutter Must be shooting arrows with healing potion strapped to it.
it’s the draw weight of the bow not how much it actually weighs.
@@AlejandroArch22 Noone ever claimed it was the weight of the bow.
@@danielantony1882 No they didn't. You're reaching. It was clearly implied they meant the draw weight, unless you're too stupid, or intentionally ignorant
“It doesn’t look nice”
I know, it looks menacing and badass
One other thing I might add, the skeletal structure of longbowmen becomes severely disfigured after a lifetime of draw and release on the longbow. Presumably, the muscular system as well. Just a cool bit of info
RIGHT ON!! This is really GREAT info!! Thank you for your efficient delivery, and using the ancient depictions of longbowmen!! 👍👍🙏
There’s a reason you can tell the difference between an archer’s skeleton and that of a normal man-at-arms.
The deformed shoulder is a dead give away. And the slightly larger "push" arm.
That's a bit of a false positive. You have to remember outside of war, Welsh/English bowmen, were almost exclusively farmers, hence the term "yeoman archers". The enlarged right side, is more likely from regular farm work favoring the right side. Because how much time is spent practicing war vs farming?
@@ISAFSoldier Is that kind of deformity common among farmers of the same period whose kings did not use longbowmen in their armies? If so, I can see that being another cause.
However, the training needed to use a longbow was supposedly decades long and requires a lot of practice. Even if you were a farmer by trade, I imagine you would not have your skeleton altered as much if you used a crossbow in the French army for example.
@@Crusader-tg1wx I'll preface that I havent been able to find such records between farmers, so admittedly this is a theory based on inference and anecdotal evidence. What I put together however, is how english law only requires practicing of bow shooting of such heavy bows once a week for one hour, sure their might be some who would practice for longer, but I'llget to that. This amount of time even for an entirety of ones isnt enough by itself to create such a deformity. Secondly, the reading and research into medieval shooting guilds, I havent run into such records for such deformities here, and this would be where you'd have the highest chances of finding deformities among such individuals because they're always shooting from the records. Third, whenever I do have soreness from shooting a 100lb longbow, it isnt the described areas of deformity. On a slightly related note, back when I first started HEMA the soreness I got from tossing cuts with a longsword included fell closer in line with the deformity records.
Like a goddamn ballerina; the pose looks FABULOUS.
10/10 Styling on the armor boys.
What did God do?
Bro looked like an absolute badass shooting it
You're right! I recognized that form right away 😮
Bruh that pose is worthy of a statue
In kung fu the foot posture is called "bow stance" lol
Yoooo I’ve never made that connection before! Ty for letting me learn something new today
That makes a lot of sense!
Dam, that just clicked
Thank for for this!!! I was having hella trouble pulling back my warbow. Now I can fire arrows at the enemy of my kingdom with ease! 10/10
Most of the time I see historical sword channels so it's good to see a historical bow channel
That’s so interesting! I’ve seen paintings like this and thought the illustrators were just unskilled, but they were capturing something vital to the archers deadly technique 😮
Details in medieval drawings are quite accurate. Hand tools are portrayed impressively accurate and works perfectly, when recreated in our time.
I had always thought the same thing until seeing this video
@@OmmerSyssel This conversation dovetails nicely with the work done by Christopher Schwarz over at Lost Art Press. Dude has poured over old prints and paintings to produce his no-nonsense books of traditional woodworking.
If they were unskilled, they wouldn't be illustrating manuscripts and such in the first place. Give them some credit.
@@spades9681 What is the purpose of this comment dude lol? I’m literally admitting that I was wrong and over 100 people had a similar misunderstanding and your comment adds nothing of value to the convo except to say, “Don’t be wrong stupid. Try being right. It’s way better. I would know, I’m right a lot.” 😂
Poor deer had a miniature black hole form when the arrow passed through to another dimension.
Your content is great, man. Keep educating the masses. 👍🏻
Imagine the handshake from a medieval english archer who shot a 200 lbs bow for and hour everyday, pitched hay to his cattle and milked them morning and night.
So THAT'S why Kung Fu has a Bow And Arrow Stance. It is literally the stance you use to draw powerful warbows.
Bro is manifesting his ancestor's energy
I love that, you can feel the power and force in the execution.
You are the bow authority
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Hold my beer
You misspelled ale there gramps
No
@Bobbyjustbobby eat shit
Hahaha it still made sense no matter if it was able or beer that comment had me rolling 😂😂😂😂
Hold my wine 🍷 would be the correct libation.
Love seeing a master at his craft
This man knows what he's doing
I read the title wrong and deadass thought the bow was 160, and he was somehow lifting it with 1 hand
As am archer, I commend you for being able to pull this off 👌
The fact that he drew back a 160lb now AND did it barehanded is insane. My hands are like leather and I’d only be able to do that a few times before I said “never again” lol. Seems like he’s done it a few DOZEN at least
Come to Mongolia. Women do it all the time in a competition.
@@MonBerry that sounds like a fun handjob
@@MonBerry the women’s bows are surely not that heavy
@@samgyeopsal569 have you seen their women?
@@samgyeopsal569 they’re still warbows so yeah they are. It’s not like the bows that heavy anyway, it’s the draw from the string. Doesn’t necessarily mean that 160lbs is what you have to pull, just that’s the tension on this bow, the weight is equivalent to the force you exert technically though.
He shoot me though the heart with that arc literally im dead now but can still remember that beautiful form🤺🏌🏋♂️
that grunt sounded like fart the first timd i heard it lol
That sounded like a hollow whistle.. if that's what your farts sound like you need to start pitching.
@Tom Steele this really went over your head, huh? 🤦 Oh sweet summer child.
Nah it was a fast car passing outside.
@@thisguy1413 you both made jokes both were silly don’t be gay like your joke just hv a chuckle n move on buddy boy ❤
@@sweatysack9103 I'm sorry, was that supposed to be English? I'm gonna need an interpreter for this broken attempt at communication. Enjoy your sweaty sacks, Captain Hetero.
Bro you are a king
Best review ever you need to do one of these every 2 1/2 weeks to a month it’s fucking genius. It’s so funny my stomach is hurting from laughter. That is awesome. Implement us in a certain part. Trust me people love this kind of honesty and laughter.💯🤷🏽♂️
Well the fact that mideval archers quite literally grew up shooting heavy, yew longbows and developed muscle memory and strength that makes modern archers look like children...
I would at least expect you to know how to spell medieval
@@710jameson8 could be worse I've genuinely seen someone spell it mid-evil.
Yew long bow? (RuneScape flashbacks) 🤓🤓🤓
I remember reading about this in the rangers apprentice when I was a little kid, its nice to see it in action for once
Loved that series, rare to see someone else who read it, doesn't seem like it was super popular.
Main character stance
I got a compound bow last year and haven't had the opportunity to mess with it like i would like. Love the idea of messing with more archery. This looks awesome.