Small Amp, Big Sound: The Fender Princeton Reverb in the Studio
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If you're rocking an amp in your studio, what are you using? Also what's your favorite way to record it?
Some random harley benton amp
Any 65 amps model will work for me but my favourite is the Ventura, record 2 in stereo. Glorious
Blues Jr. w/a sm57 or sometimes a Lauten Audio LA220
I've got the 10" Princeton and it is FANTASTIC! I like it better than the 12" version actually. I also have a Vox ac30 handwired head with a matching mojotone 2x12, and a pro jr v1. The Princeton is my favorite. I record it with an sm57 and r121 usually.
Hi 🙂Thank you for your great videos, Andrew!!! I use a 1965 Gibson skylark GA 5. The model without the tremolo circuit . Great sounding amp. Rhett has some great videos on them. I use a ART Pro MPAII to feed it. I found some 1969 GE 12 AX 7 tubes to replace the stock ones in the ART MPAII . Made a huge difference . That gives me more control of volume and more flavors . From the ART MPAII the signal goes through a Alesis midi verb 4 , then to a JHS 3 series reverb a Ventura vibe pedal and , if I deed some more dirt , a super phat mod overdrive pedal as well. I mic the Skylark with a SM 57 . The SM 57 is ran through the second channel of the ART Pro MPAII and on to the audio interface .
Thanks again for the great videos.
Love this amp and this video and all the special guests :) I especially adore that when our son sees something awesome, his reaction is "we have to show mama NOW!' lol.
Damn … well, THAT cat got outta the bag … oopsies.
I really dig that amp, sounded great through the ox on our jam!
whatever you were using for the dirt sounded great through the princeton!
@@ChristienDiezyn Browne Amplification Atom !
Rhett in here locking down that future Epic Home Studio vid, ha ha
I had one in the red finish from 2017 that was 15 watts 12" speaker... i changed out the jensen for a weber jbl style speaker and changed tubes.. sadly i traded the dang thing for a dsl40😅
I have a 10inch Princeton and I personally love how the 10 breaks up
Great amp! I got mine from Sweetwater (shoutout, Matt Kreager!) in 2017 and fell in love right away with the beautiful cleans, easy breakup, and reverb. Apart from my JP Henry custom (which is naturally on another level entirely), it's my favorite amp. Great with pedals, great with the Ox Box, great micced up.
I've had this this amp for a couple of years now, for use at home, mostly playing jazz, and I love it 😊 It's the only amp I need or want for electric guitar Although it is a special edition, It is available in Canada also through Long & McQuade.
i am glad you mentioned this. I am thinking of purchasing one myself from L&M to play mostly jazz, maybe a bit of rockabilly. Home use as well, but I imagine it could handle a jam session?
I have a ‘77 Fender Vibro Champ 8 watts. Awesome tones. It also sounds good pushing a 12” speaker. I am the original owner. Would never get rid of it.
I love to play my '78 Champ with it's new Weber. I put a green bullet mic in the back and send it into a Dual Showman Reverb. Sounds like a 100w Champ! Also, if you replace the 12ax7 with a 12at7, you get considerably more headroom (at the expense of the built-in Champ fuzz).
Yes! The Princeton is such a great recording amp. I've got the 10" version. Great pedal platform.
this is by far the best amp demo i ever heard it feels like the amp is in my room amazing work!
Wonderful! I’ve been looking for a new small Fender for the studio! 😇
Oh man that tone! What a great sounding amp!
Thanks!
I love my Princeton. Fantastic with the Ox - and plenty loud for anything I'd come up against.
I built that amp, put adjustable bias and running TAD 6V6 GC’s it’s a beauty
Yoooooo rhett is a FANTASTIC PLAYER
So are you man!
I picked this thing up a few mos ago. It’s nice, I think the C Rex might be on the chopping block though after hearing one with a GA-SC64 in it.
I replaced the C-Rex with a GA-SC64 in mine. Huge improvement. More headroom, dirt pedals sound better. Perfect match in my opinion.
I’ve had this amp on my Sweetwater wish list for years now. I used to have a ‘66 vintage black face super reverb and I’ve always wanted a quieter version of it. This may be the exact thing I need to be in my home recording set up. Mostly edge of breakup.
I have the "Bordeaux" version which is just blood red with a 12" Jensen Alnico (PQ12). I love it for the cleans, great pedal platform, etc. But without an Ox Box or attenuation of some sort, it gets loud in the room at 6. Mine doesn't really break up until 7 or 8. So I either use pedals for dirt, or a long cable and just crank it with the door closed in my office. Basically my point is the amp is pretty loud. I doubt it would work without being mic'd up at a small venue with a drummer, but don't expect it to be cranked to 10 and be able to sit right next to it and have a conversation, that's not happening. At least not with mine.
We need a tweed and black face head with matching cabinet. They haven’t released anything full size like that for guitars in probably over a decade. They have the super sonic but that’s more of a lower end (even if the price doesn’t necessarily agree) amp. We need a fender custom shop tweed reverb style head at 100-150w with a matching 2x12, 4x12, and maybe even some weird speaker configurations like 1x15 or 4x10. It’s always been my dream to own a fender stack, but I don’t really want a bass amp and I don’t want an amp and I don’t want to deal with vintage stuff. Nor do I want a marshal clone like their old fm stacks. I want a real reverb style half stack in tweed. Hand wired. Custom shop. Plug in a 1972 thinline tele with dual humbuckers and go to town. My dream fender setup. Unless they finally released a hardtail strat with hss or hsh. Or even make a Tom delong inspired 69 hardtail with single humbucker, but more traditional rather than an invader and single volume.
Dang it I started rambling again. Freaking gas.
P.s... all the hits that the great sessions guitarist Louie Shelton done he used a 1969 fender Princeton Reverb and still uses it. Unbelievable the music he has done you should check out his story
I had hard that the Prinston Reverb was one of the greatest amps of all time but of course rather than just buy one I had to proove it to myself by buying 5 other very expensive amps first.... But now I love playing the Tweed Prinston (C.R) and the Tweed Delux (hand wired) in stereo through a Twin City ABY. Now THAT is pure heaven.
Holy crap. So for about 10 years now or so, or probably longer than that, whenever I got a MacBook and consumer product recording really took off, I’ve been pressing into my speaker grill to figure out where to put my mic. Never thought to shine a flashlight into the grill to find the spot.
Sounds great! Thanks for the review :)
Thank you for watching :)
The cannabis rex is such an amazing element! Every cab that i've heard where i go "that sounds amazing" has an Eminence element!
Use mine live, put an old Celestion alnico in it and that adds a roundness and a bit more headroom overall. It's a killer amp and one of the best I've owned over the decades.
highly doubt that gold is ''rounder'' than cannibus
I just got the one with the Celestion speaker. It’s one of the best sounding amps I’ve had. The reverb and Tremelo is very similar to the older silver face fenders. The first good amp I got was a 68 Princeton when I was 12, my dad got it at Sam Ash on kings Highway in Brooklyn, so I’ve always had a thing for this amp. I never liked the 10 inch speaker though. I’ve had four Deluxe Reverb Reissues over the past 15 years but wound up getting rid of them cause I just didn’t like how they sounded, but this Princeton is just right. I don’t think you can go wrong with it.
I bought this amp from Long & McQuade in Toronto, who said it was exclusive to them. 🙂 I love it. It's my main rehearsal amp, although I haven't gigged it yet. For recording and home practice, I use a Peavey Classic 20 mini head and matching 12" cab. I run it in 1 watt mode and can get it to the edge of breakup without pissing everyone off. I record it using an e906 hanging in front of the grill cloth.
I play a fat 50’s strat through a 1975 Princeton. It’s the best setup I have. I’m convinced it has to do with the aged speaker wear and the signal size of the ‘fat’ pickups.
Alder maple Hendrix strings
I have one and it's my favorite! Kind of want to get another one in case something happens to it...
I’m surprised you all are just discovering this specific Princeton from SweetWater. Ive had this amp for at 2-3 years now. It’s the best project studio amp and perfect for gigging too! Anything larger I use my Fender SS22. Great video by the way!
More than any other amp I’ve used, the Volume control on the PRRI is a tone control.
Meaning, the sound is completely different depending on where you set it, and small changes make big differences.
You don’t set the volume control on the PRRI for the volume you need-you set it for the sound you want, and if it needs to be louder, you mike it. If it needs to be quieter, get an Ox Box.
At least that’s my experience.
I bought this one from Sweetwater way back when they were sub 1000 dollars. It's a fantastic amp, but I do have my reservations about the C Rex speaker. Some times it can feel a little muffled, or maybe it's just where the mid range sits. I still have this Princeton, but I got my hands on Mesa Cali Tweed 4x40 for a ridiculously good price, and it puts the Princeton to shame. I got the Cali Tweed 40 before the 20 watt was released, but I bet in a showdown of the 20 watt Cali Tweed and this Princeton the Cali Tweed would come out on top. I know with current pricing they aren't on the same spectrum, but at one time they were close. I only paid about 1500 shipped for my Cali Tweed, but those days are long gone.
Got one in 2019. The best. Works for almost any situation/gig. Cool video. Thanks 🙏
I have the bordeux reserve...wine red tolex/ wheat grill cloth/ 12" speaker. Just a great classic sounding amp...blues tones are phenomenal on it with a little screamer in front or the tumnus just to give it anlittle extry...it sings
What's the difference between yours and this would you say?
Really just the speaker....bordeaux color has a jensen p10q i believe and these have a cannabis rex i think. And of course the cabimet covering .. circuit is the same wether its a special edition or not@@jasoncolemanarizonaloanoff1574
Yes sir , I did have to get re-educated from some of the top Studio guitarist in the world. The days of the 100 + w Marshalls are good for certain events , but for real guitarist these small Amps turned on volume 3 or 4 to achieve awesome tone is what we need to be about.... I'm going next week to look for one of these amps
I bought one a year ago Andrew, absolutely love it….Cheers!
I am so glad I took a chance on this amp three years ago because of the user reviews on Sweetwater -- 5 stars and about 140 reviews at the time, now up over 250 and still at 5 stars. It runs so quiet that I legitimately thought mine was dead on arrival when I first turned it on. Takes pedals like a dream, especially low-to-mid gain transparent overdrives like the Timmy and the Lightspeed. I will always cherish my 1968 Super Reverb, but how often do any of us get an opportunity to play at that kind of volume these days?
I play my vibrolux(35 watts) at volume every day. I live in a row home in Philadelphia. I hate my neighbors so pissing them off is just an added plus. My favorite time to rock is 7 AM Saturday morning after my dipshit neighbors are coming down from their cocaine, meth and vodka fueled revelry every Friday night.
New Magnatone Super 59 - M80 2x12 combo amp and a '90 Fender Dual Showman head with a Mesa 2x12 closed back cab. I play with higher volumes through a Weber Mass 200 attenuator on either amp. I can mic or take a line out of either amp (and/or the Mass 200). Also experimenting with the UAFX Dream pedal and JHS Colorbox for an ampless rig.
Very nice!
I picked up a demo model for under a 1K from Sweetwater a few months ago and I am really enjoying this amp.
Cannabis Rex is a beast in little fender amps. Love that speaker
Ah, I love my Princeton 65 reissue with the 1x12..... :) Hey Mike ;)
Holy crap, Rhett’s tone from that Les Paul is just 🤯
I have the GC version with the 12" Celestion G12-65. Love it!
Amazing stuff!
Thank you
@@AndrewMasters Ur welcome!
I bought one of the first ones and I have to say it is amazing .
Indeed fantastic amp however I’ve swapped speaker as I wasn’t totally sold on cannabis and I’ve put Celestion Blue 8 ohm 12" . I can’t even tell what a difference in tone and headroom . Love my Princeton.(purchased from LongandMcQuade in Canada).
Dude! awesome! Ive been really wanting this amp since I spotted it a while back. Thanks for showing it off. I really want it now! And that Surf green semi hollow was incredible. ugh I want that haha. Hey can you show us how to recorded and mixed the drums to that bluesy tune. That was rad
Looking really hard at one of these. But the GC version.
I have the dawn version and I believe it to be the most visually appealing. Also nice with the greenback.
Fawn
I have one of these, but with the 12” Celestion from GC. Amp is so great, but I do have some issues with noise when the Trem and Reverb are used together. It’s still my favorite sounding amp though.
💙🤘
After watching the video, I wanted that amp too. My guitar is a Fender Japan Telecaster (Dr.K signature model).
I’ve got 3 Princetons I think? ( no fancy vintage stuff) but I have this one also and it’s my favourite. And it looks great too!!
Edit I only have 2.
The 3rd one is a Tonemaster.
But yeah this tweed thing with a 12 … well I love it. (Today anyway) lol
Love that drum kit…
I’m rocking a Trinity 18tmb. This speaker is a little to dark for my liking but pretty cool.
I have many blackface amps, had no idea a factory Princeton came with a 12” speaker and a C-Rex, speaker at that, think it’s just what a Princeton amp needs , a very efficient speaker and a tame top end, see how it works out.
I have one of those. It's great, at least until you crank it up and use strong pickups. It can get quite flubby at high volumes. I suspect it's the speaker, so I just ordered a couple to try: a Weber Chicago and a WGS G12C/S. Will report back...maybe.😁 I'm also upgrading the output transformer to a Mercury Magnetics that has both 8 and 16-ohm taps, for more speaker options. AND, installing a mod package from Fromel Electronics. I'll also be running all of my amps through a Fryette PS-2A, so I'll have good tone at virtually any volume...if the PS ever gets here (they build them to order).
Mine takes dirt pedals very well too. Mostly, I use a Wampler Euphoria.
You dial the low knob on the amp way back already? That makes a big difference.
dope video dude
Thanks!
I use my Princeton Reverb 68 for rehearsals and Deluxe Reverb 68 for Gigs.
Great amp ! You can call it Gentle Giant !
Great amp.....when it's working. Also check for the laser added tone between the F# and G# on the high E above the 12th. Fender said it was "within spec" but if you're doing clean jazz or country it absolutely won't work. Had the amp in for repair half a dozen times in the first two years. Finally had my tech basically rebuild the insides and it's been holding up for over a year(and the "within spec" laser went away). Amp never leaves the studio so it's not like it's abused.
Nice 😊😊😊
My new favourite amp! I lucked out and got a sonic blue one with a 12” Celestion Gold. It replaced my Deluxe reverb as my #1 and will likely be for life! 😊
How are you eliminating the hum on the recording? During talking it’s so prevalent but on the edited version you’ve done a great job of getting rid of it. Izotope or something similar in the daw? Thank you,
I love how thus amp looks, so clean, simple classic. BUT I dont want to fall in love with a pretty face. How are those of you using it like it? I love the ton of regular princeton but i think it needs more and Deluxe Reverb is NOT a Princeton but bigger, in my opinion. Thank you
I really love it. It’s a very cool and great sounding amp. Its really fun to use with and amp load box. As a producer and engineer - it’s important to have options so from that perspective have 2-3 amps and cabs to choose from really makes the difference on the recording/mix to mix and match amps.
You should make an album called the Cliches and market it to insomniacs
that's a great amp
Hey thanks for the video! Im looking to get a small little studio amp, how does this compare to something like a Morgan MVP23
Never used or heard of that amp, I’ll have to check it out.
maybe I missed it, but is that a 12" celestian speaker? I just gone one of these (65' limited edition) and white it had a tag on it saying the speaker was a Jensen, it turned to be a Celestian 12"
Cannabis Rex 12”
A Sweetwater Fender special
At 4:21 you wrote "vibrato", but according to the Sweetwater page you where correct by saying tremolo.
That’s a great amp! I have a similar amp from vintage sound amps: it’s a Deluxe Reverb in a Princeton enclosure, but with a 12“ speaker too. And it has some things fixed that the original fenders had problems…
Andrew, how do you deal with the drums just being there in your studio? I have my drums in my recording / mixing space and even though I have some ample sound treatment, this is something I think I am having the most trouble wrapping my head around. What solution are you using to do serious mixing / mastering to make sure those drums are not creating weird resonance in the room that is interfering with your room /reverb sound that you thought you were hearing because I am definitely hearing a difference with just entry level "pro" monitors. I can take down the cymbals and shove them in the bag for an intensive mix session and that really makes a world of clarity....Do you throw a big quick blanket on top of the drum kit or what? Mix with it wide open?
cheers
I have 2. Amazing amps.
Which plugin did u use for the piano sound?
The problem with modern Fender amps is they sound nothing like the original amps they’re based on, and they use the cheapest components Fender can get their hands on.
You’re better off finding a boutique builder who can build clones that are much closer to the originals we all know and love.
Great amp. I have an original 67/68 Silverface Twin Reverb drip edge, black lines etc It's the Beatles "Get Back" amp. My 2nd RUclips video ever was on it. Fenders are just great classic amps
Love the guitar content!
Do you think we can we get the full first jam with Frank somewhere? It was really pretty and I want to hear the rest.
haha thanks, that’s the whole thing. It was just a two part thing I made for fun. Maybe I’ll start putting stuff up if people want to check it out.
Great video Andrew! Just bought that very amp a few days ago and played it for a few hours now. Love it so far but should I worry about poor build quality out of Fender lately? Not here to troll, I just want to make sure it was an ok longer term purchase.
It was not an exclusive to Sweetwater....they also made it for Long + McQuade.
can u use this out with a band? headroom etc?? thanks just discovered u!!! subbed!! rocco nyc
Won't stay clean past 5 5 1/2. The vox ac10 is just or maybe a bit louder clean. I haven't used my Princeton since I got the vox.
@@keithclark486 i had the vox worst reverb ever was very dissapointed ...it did however have volume
@@keithclark486 i prefer my princeton but i really like the vox!!
@@soofitnsexy
I have 6 tube amps
4 fenders 2 vox
I mostly use analog pedals ' I'm getting a good tone outta the
AC-10 with those pedals. I wouldn't take nothing for the Princeton ' I'd have to say my 65ddri and 68 vibrolux reverb are my favorites when it comes down to it
especially the DRRI.
Have you tried analog pedals with your vox?
What style music do you play?
Dear Andrew, I'd like to suggest you to interview a good friend of mine. His name is Bob Horn (Grammy Awward winner). It's and great engineer / producer , he lives in LA. If you need any info just contact me. Thank you!! And congratulations for your channel
Now you know why every studio player since they started using amps in studios has a Princeton of some kind.
Had it two years. I will buy more amps cuz why not but this is THE amp. 10' cord and a guitar amp vol on 5 and just enjoy yourself
Was Rhett running it through the oxbox?
I had this amp. Was a good amp. However I didn't like the sound. I had to change the speaker. A Jensen speaker is simply the only right way to get that Princeton tone.
Wow your little boy is so big now. But the box is still big compared to him haha
Show mama!? Erk… um, listen here, kid. What mum doesn’t know won’t hurt her, got it?!
Got to keep buying standard black so they blend in,
What are the three similar looking pedals on the first row?
Jus out here makin Sweetwater commercials now.
Are you bothered by my work?
@@AndrewMasters I love your work. But feel like the studio tours are what made you unique and put you on the map. Why dilute it with the kind of tepid product reviews that don't really say anything that everyone else is doing?
@@mikeypipes These videos actually bring me joy to make. I really like what I do, it supports my family and grows my business. I’m grateful for it. You don’t have to click and comment on a video you don’t want to watch. However, I appreciate you doing so even if you do shit on it. :)
@@AndrewMasters sooooooooo othered lmao u rock
Fender needs to rename this amp " the lego"
Signal chain on your pedalboard? I’m curious about the carbon into the t4 and after the T is the Centavo?
Sure is! I don’t use them in series like that but those are correct!
@@AndrewMasters Thank you! Great content and tone, beautiful pedalboard
Reverb has a really LONG tail ??
Your friend said that's the better studio amp he heard, maybe he didn't try the 64' Custom Princeton, hand-wired, HP Alnico instead of Ceramic on the 65'. some of the components are different and better., but most of all, it sounds better. #800e more expensive also, that's true,.
I have a late 70s Vibrolux Reverb. Thinking about trading or selling for a 65 Princeton reissue or similar to have a more reliable amp. The amp needs some work.
Does this seem foolish? I'm new to electric guitars and got the amp for free.
Honestly, yes it does seem a little foolish. The Vibrolux Reverb is (in my opinion) one of the best amps Fender has ever made. Any Fender tube amp from the early 80s back is going to hand wired the old fashioned way, which means they will always be repairable.
That being said, I do understand the need for a reliable amp if for no other reason than peace of mind, and the modern Fender Reissues (especially the American made ones) have proven themselves to pretty reliable. I would still keep the Vibrolux Reverb even if you decide to get a newer amp.
@@charlesbolton8471 I appreciate the reply. I had it repaired, but it wasn't easy finding a place to do it. Had to drive a few hours. I'll be keeping it!
dude try the hemp speaker for more mids
That’s the speaker in this amp
the amp build with Lego😂😂😂😂
Princeton amps sound good for punchy lead tones and studio recordings but for rhythm playing they lack warmth, body, and fullness. I even played one side by side against a cheap Peavey classic 30 for hours and was shocked how much fuller the Peavey sounded in comparison... it's like all the right frequencies were missing from the Princeton. However, again they sound good for lead playing, crisp overdrive tones and some other things... but I don't think they are a very versatile amp... and significantly overrated... but still good. Would I buy one... well probably not...too thin sounding... though I do like them somewhat. I guess it depends on playing style too... certain amps for different playing styles better. Princeton s are great finger picking amps... but can sound too bright, thin, and sterile when using a pick... just like a deluxe reverb...
Hilarious: The Princeton was no more than a student amp in the 60s that had trem and reverb. A step up from the Champ. It made its way
to the studio players that craved mobility. It was accepted by the sound engineers only because it was relatively buzz quiet and could be
mixed to sound full. Its a testament to salesmanship and FAD!! Can never stand with a Deluxe, Pro or Super!!! But can be carried easily!!
They designed the Princeton so it wouldn't compete with those amps. It's quite easy to upgrade them to where they do compete. Run it through a 50-watt or 100-watt Power Station and it blows them away.
Sound better than any deluxe I’ve heard before.
Deluxe is highly overrated. Princeton or Vibrolux are the way to go.
@@dahliafiend Princeton and Deluxe are both the same circuit up until the phase inverter. So, the preamp is the same. The biggest difference in the two amps is wattage, speaker type, and cab size. The big advantage of the Princeton is its small size. I have a 12-inch 65 reissue and it is still easy to transport. Nice amp.
Ok, so nice studio, some nice playing, but (always a but eh?) other than a bit of talking generally about the amp, and showing some players adjusting settings (which not shown) then adding pedals and the variants in sound, not really a 'review' of just the amp is it? but hey, I have one and love it, thanks for sharing....
Yeah as an engineer I test stuff out the way it gets used in a session.