I knew Demonic Tutor was going to be the winner. How? I play Yugioh, not Magic only know a little about Magic. And over there, we use the term "Tutor" to mean search. When the card is so iconic of the mechanic that it transcends the game it came from, that's how you know it's powerful.
Top 10 most powerful color pie breaks (effects printed in a color that isn’t supposed to get access to them) would be interesting to see. You’ve already got a video on the color pie, so seeing how it helps keep the balance of the game in check would be cool.
@@XenobladeXSupremacyIn my opinion beast within does fit in green since green can destroy lands, destroy artifacts and enchantments and remove creatures. The only thing it breaks is the fact that green never directly destroys creatures. Green has cards like tail swipe which let creatures fight or cards like lignify or kenrith's transformation which let your opponent keep a different creature like the 3/3 basically. You could therefore say that even the creature removal part is not completely broken.
Demonic Tutor's effect is nutty. If there was a Yugioh card that forced you to banish your whole hand face down and skip your next Main Phase, but let you search any card, people would probably still run that card at three until it got banned.
@@Nanachiiky Nah, it would still be almost completely inusable. Having to banish your entire hand is a way too steep cost. One interruption and you're dead, and even if you manage to get your starter you're not going far without any kind of extender.
@@lucianofrancesco4742 yeah but you can get quite literally ANY extender, starter, ender, whatever it is you need for it. you can go -5 but get your entire board setup off of it, kinda like how left arm gives decks who rely on that 1 spell a fuckton of advantage because they got the 1 thing they need
@@Nanachiiky I think the fact that left arm offering is a terrible card and it requires only half the resources an omni-tutor would need says it all really. If they have a single ash blossom (33% odds) and you're going first, you instantly lose the game, not including any other hand trap. If they have any omni negate and you're going second you instantly lose the game. So you're hoping you're going first and they don't have ash and that your one card is equal to their six. What card would ever meet that requirement.
The best thing about creativity as opposed to other polymorph decks is the ability to put two things into play as opposed to only 1. Because griselbrand is legendary you can’t put two into play so archon is typically better in that way
Another thing to note, fatal push was released as an Uncommon which meant it was easily obtainable. Also diabolic intent is a card that's similar to demonic tutor but requires you to sacrifice a creature to perform the search, it's useful in decks that have sac outlets like cauldron familiar or gravecrawler.
Actually it was rather tough to pull Fatal Push which is why it was worth double digits as an uncommon. You sometimes needed to open 4x boxes to get it. It wasn’t a normal Uncommon. It was a U1.
Yawgmoth's Bargain and Yawgmoth's Will are both incredible cards (particularly the latter). They have seen a huge amount of play, even in the eternal formats. Still, as unfortunate as it may seem, they don't see that much play any more. Yawgmoth's Will only sees play in fairly fringe combo decks (some storm variants). Even most combo decks played these days (e.g., Doomsday) don't play Yawgmoth's Will. The truth is that these days there's access to better ways of setting up combos, which require less or setup or are more consistent.
@@FalseOracle617 that says nothing about the power level of the card. The fact it is too strong for legacy means its a strong card and should be on the list
I agree whenever someone cast yawgmoth will it’s pretty much game over getting to replay every card in your graveyard I allways thought it was one of the most broken cards printed and if the contract was legal anywhere ever deck would play it you would have to splash black in every deck to play it to have a chance mud decks would even play it or they would lose
@Martin Funk powerful cards to be sure but......one mana draw 7? Think of the hoops people jump through to get griselbrand into play, or to try and make a wheel effect one sided. Contract just IS a one-sided wheel for only 1 mana!
I don't know how Yawgmoth's Bargain isn't on this list at all. That probably should be #1 as it usually ends the game when it resolves. Like, Fatal Push? Broken? HUH?!?
I completely agree with this thread, and have tried to & successfully played mono black & black + splash in vintage and legacy for 20 sumthin years. Carry on friends.
Theres literally no point in adding vampiric tutor. Demonic tutors just a better version of it so youd be rehashing the same shit. Whats the point in repeating yourself plus 1 mana
@@GamezPDD They are almost the same card but still not the same card yet there's a reason why they are so broken because of how powerful they are which is why they both deserve a spot. Of course you'd be repeating yourself, that's how good these cards are. They both deserve to be here, given they're both only legally playable as a 1 of in any deck that can run them in any format. Unless the cards are word-for-word the exact same card (eg: corrupted conviction and village rites or llanowar elves and elvish mystic) u can definitely and should include both because their effects are almost equally strong and are both more powerful cards than some of the cards at the bottom of the list like fatal push and bolas's citadel.
Vampiric tutor sort of shared the spot with demonic tutor. I could see Yawgmoth's bargain being below necropotence because it's harder to get out but it should still be on the list.
Yawgmoth's Will and Yawgmoth's Bargain should definitely be on this list. I'm not gonna quibble order, but those two are grievous omissions. I'm not sure that Dark Confidant makes the absolute, true top 10 handed down from the gods, but it surely should be in over Fatal Push. Then, I also have to mention Demonic Consultation, Vampiric Tutor and Imperial Seal, given Demonic Tutor's entry and place here. I'm not saying those should be above it or on par, or even that necessarily they have to make the list if it does, but, you gotta have the conversation. (And personally I really dislike Imperial Seal because it's a sorcery; if I can't Vampiric Tutor on the opponent's end step, what's the point? But I have to respect that it's banned in Legacy and restricted in Vintage for good reasons.) There are probably some others I'm forgetting here. Oh and Contract from Below is... I mean, it's never actually cast for black mana. So you can argue whether it should be on the "best black cards" list. So I think it's fine to omit from the main list, so long as you have it as an honorable mention (explaining its disqualification) at the start.
been watching for a few years with the yu-gi-oh Top 10’s and i gotta say i love how you’ve changed up the captions (the yellow lettering you use) from just being exactly what you say. normally i just fall asleep or listen to your vids but it’s nice to read something along with the cards im not familiar with!
Actual most broken black card of all time is "Yawgmoth's Will." Just take my word for it kids, there will never be a stronger black card (or card in general for that matter) than that.
No Yawgmoth's Will? One of the greatest if not THE greatest bane of combo winter? Also, Yagmoth's Bargain could be consider equal, a bit weaker or a bit better to Necropotence depending the situation just because it doesnt have its downsides.
Okay contract from below is arguably the most powerful mtg card ever. But ante cards are banned absolutely everywhere, it’s pretty much the equivalent of un cards. I don’t think it’s relevant to take ante cards into account.
@@ericgasper6135 You have no idea of the power difference between those two. Hymn only is a thing because Mind Twist was heavily restricted or banned from the onset of the game.
OOO I forgot entirely about Mind Twist. That card is so busted. Also everybody still sleeping on Sinkhole, understandable because well, it's like Mind Twist, was banned/restricted pretty much immediately.
@@rashakor Mind twist costs 4+ mana to do more than what hymn does, it's a crappy card now. Sure it was far better when magic as a game was super slow and stuff like The Deck ran serra angel as a win condition, but now it's unplayable and not just because it's banned in legacy (it should have been unbanned 15 years ago.)
No Yawgmoth's Will, no Yawgmoth's Bargain, no Demonic Consultation, no Leyline of the Void, did mention Ad Nauseam but it wasn't on the top 10 Unreliable list
Doomsday combo now is very, very straightforward because of thassa's oracle just saying you win post doomsday after some draw spells and such. Before thassa's oracle when gitaxian probe and sensei's divining top were legal it was used as a storm combo engine where the most complicated of piles went doomsday, draw through the pile, doomsday again, draw through, and then finally fire off a lethal tendrils of agony if the opponent had gained some life or something and the storm count was insufficient with one pile. It was also one of the most complicated decks to play in all of magic with almost no one playing it and most opting for the EPIC storm or ad nauseam tendrils.
Not sure how Yawgmoth's Will (aka Yawgmoth's Win) didnt make this list? I was lucky enough to get one from a booster back way back in the ancient world.
It would be more like a reverse Maxx C challenge, seeing if you can self-TK with it, because you yourself are it's only possible target. It's actually really hard to get a direct Maxx C Challenge in mtg, because repeatable draw-effects are generally optional/controllable and forcing your opponent to draw out with your own cards isn't so much a Maxx C challenge, because it's more proactively your win con usually. The only example I can think of when it comes to forcing an opponent to uncontrollably draw their entire deck due to their own effects is against dinosaurs. If they have an Elemental Bond, a Polyraptors and a Marauding Raptors, dealing a single damage to the Polyraptors is enough to send them into an uncontrollable spiral of creating Polyraptor tokens, which upon immediately taking damage from Marauding Raptors create more Polyraptors, all the while Elemental Bond forces him to draw cards until he decks out.
Problem is you can't play it. I ran a few games with it in the mid 90's, but no one in my area played ante games with serious decks. We all built jank stuff where we didn't mind losing a card. That card is indeed ridiculous.
Yawgmoth's Will? I'm pretty sure, to date, it's the only card in magic that has an argument to be a better card than ancestral recall. I don't know man, I have to consider any top 10 list that doesn't have that card on it to be an exceptionally hot take.
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I think Demonic Consultation, Grief and Vampiric Tutor could be in your list (rather than Fatal Push or Archon for instance). Fun fact : among the 10 cards of your top, no one is banned in duel commander.
Uh, I know that it is rarely seen (because it is banned in every format and restricted in vintage because it is so broken), you must have missed Yawgmoth’s Will.
I honestly believe Dark Ritual is by far the most powerful black card. There are very few card that have the versatility that it has. Dark Ritual is the first card that enabled a first turn kill. It really tough to compete with a card that allows a potential of 9 mana first turn without using any other cards besides a single swamp.
I thought recurring nightmare was gonna be in the group. But a lot of these cards are banned or heavily restricted. Which also indicates how powerful these cards are
I don't know, I think Slaughter Pact, while fallen off grace, might still be worth consideration for the best removal. Also, the same old issue with formats, because as mentioned formats that can afford to be just a bit slower (or play higher mana values) Fatal Push is worse than more generic two-mana removal.
Push, Thoughtseize, and Demonic Tutor are all powerful, but not one of them is broken. Tutor I suppose could be on the list, but not that high. Meanwhile, not having Yawgmoth's Will on this list is inexcusable. If you don't think it's #1, which it is, it still has to be top 3. Having Necropotence and not mentioning Yawgmoth's Bargain (which could share a slot like you did with the Tutors) is embarassing, since it costs more but has none of the other downsides. Finally, Contract from Below is insanely nutty and must be mentioned, even if you consider it not the most powerful because no one plays for ante. Discard your hand and draw 7 for 1 black mana? C'mon.
I agree with you. DT isn't really broken. "Is the best card in my deck still good if it costs 2 more mana?" For the most part, that answer is no, but it depends on the format. If you're getting a game-winning combo piece, then it is. If you're getting a 4-mana creature, it's not. Tutors increase linearity and consistency of decks, not sheer power. Put Necro even in a middling deck (play it fairly) and you get so ahead on cards you probably win. DT for a middling card in a middling deck and you still don't do much.
I'm not sure that Fatal Push is more broken than Demonic Consultation, Vampiric Tutor, Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, or like... any number of other black cards
i find it really odd and interesting that Simian Spirit Guide is banned in modern, but i don't see Elvish Spirit Guide on the list. Also, when explaining Griselbrand, you somehow said "Mana" instead of "life" derp
You left out Imperial Seal, though to be fair it's basically just a much more expensive version of Vampiric Tutor. Still waiting on wotc to reprint more of the Portal Three Kingdoms cards...
Necrodominance is virtually identical to Necropotence - except it's not restricted in Vintage for some reason? I'll bet a dollar it gets restricted soon. Also, just look up restricted black cards in Vintage: 1. Demonic Consultation. 2. Demonic Tutor. 3. Imperial Seal. 4. Necropotence. 5. Vampiric Tutor. 6. Yawgmoth's Will
Off the top of my head, in no particular order: 1. Dark Ritual 2. Yawgmoth's Will 3. Yawgmoth's Bargain 4. Necropotence 5. Necrodominance 6. Griselbrand 7. Entomb 8. Buried Alive 9. Doomsday 10. Contract from Below
Phyrexian Obliterator is the one card that if I play it, my Magic playing friends just concede and say "next" as in "next deck". I'll often Dark Ritual into it on turn #2 and then it's too powerful to be fun.
Though intomb does nothing with itself,but search a certain card and put into graveyard is really strong.still mind twist also a powerful card I think 🤔
All these people meming about contract from below when the card literally does nothing because it fizzles at the word "ante" because ante is an illegal action
@@randallross420 if you're playing for ante, you're using an entirely different unofficial ruleset that changes the power of cards so it shouldn't be considered
no yawgmoth will and bargain? no mind twist?? and the most incredible thing is that very few comment have mentioned RECURRING NIGHTMARE????? I understood not mentioning ante cards but fatal push? really? event the orcish bowmaster is better than fatal push to me
This list missed a few obviously more broken cards, such as imperial seal and entomb. You also have unmask, hymn to tourach, yawgmoths bargain etc. Those 3 are stronger than Fatal Push
@@danlorett2184 ye, demonic tutor and Yawgmoth's Will are probably the 2 most broken black cards. Could make an argument for necro though. I think hymn is up there because its always a 2 for 1 + insane upside if you rip a land and your opponent cannot play.
@@HopefulAgnostic It's funny how doomsday can even be in the conversation now for one of the most broken black cards in all honesty because it can win the game by itself with no sort of luck factor as you choose the 5 cards. I wouldn't put imperial seal on the list, it REALLY isn't as powerful as some people think it is because it's a sorcery. The instant speed of vamp tutor makes the card so much better in a great many situations. I'd even prefer mystical tutor over it if we ignore pyroblast/red elemental blast, but decks with mystical tutor have many must counter blue cards.
@@dark_rit Oh ye, Doomsday is absolutely in the top 10, I'm just saying that my examples are stronger than fatal push, not that they are more powerful than the others on the list.
your forgetting "Pact from below" , sure it's not legal in any format, and never will be again but drawing seven cards for one mana, is broken beyond everything else on the list. it was a legal card when it came out
I knew Demonic Tutor was going to be the winner. How? I play Yugioh, not Magic only know a little about Magic. And over there, we use the term "Tutor" to mean search. When the card is so iconic of the mechanic that it transcends the game it came from, that's how you know it's powerful.
Molasses's Citadel is one of the scariest cards in commander
💀💀💀 came to see
Ball ass is citadel is my favorite card in K’rrk
Hey, he got Necropotence right this time!
Don't forget Atrax Grand Unifier
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Top 10 most powerful color pie breaks (effects printed in a color that isn’t supposed to get access to them) would be interesting to see. You’ve already got a video on the color pie, so seeing how it helps keep the balance of the game in check would be cool.
This would be a great video idea
Beast Within, definitely
@@XenobladeXSupremacyIn my opinion beast within does fit in green since green can destroy lands, destroy artifacts and enchantments and remove creatures. The only thing it breaks is the fact that green never directly destroys creatures. Green has cards like tail swipe which let creatures fight or cards like lignify or kenrith's transformation which let your opponent keep a different creature like the 3/3 basically. You could therefore say that even the creature removal part is not completely broken.
Mono black in standard rn using the entire pie says hi
@@ynzevelema1858 green directly destroys creatures, but only if they fly
8:36 I like the freudian slip of referring to the player's life as expendable mana
Look up, Hatred. Life definitely= mana.
Demonic Tutor's effect is nutty. If there was a Yugioh card that forced you to banish your whole hand face down and skip your next Main Phase, but let you search any card, people would probably still run that card at three until it got banned.
Left arm offering?
@@lucianofrancesco4742 thats spell, not ANY card, if it was ANY card at all itd probably be used waaaaaaaay more
@@Nanachiiky Nah, it would still be almost completely inusable. Having to banish your entire hand is a way too steep cost. One interruption and you're dead, and even if you manage to get your starter you're not going far without any kind of extender.
@@lucianofrancesco4742 yeah but you can get quite literally ANY extender, starter, ender, whatever it is you need for it. you can go -5 but get your entire board setup off of it, kinda like how left arm gives decks who rely on that 1 spell a fuckton of advantage because they got the 1 thing they need
@@Nanachiiky I think the fact that left arm offering is a terrible card and it requires only half the resources an omni-tutor would need says it all really. If they have a single ash blossom (33% odds) and you're going first, you instantly lose the game, not including any other hand trap. If they have any omni negate and you're going second you instantly lose the game. So you're hoping you're going first and they don't have ash and that your one card is equal to their six. What card would ever meet that requirement.
The best thing about creativity as opposed to other polymorph decks is the ability to put two things into play as opposed to only 1. Because griselbrand is legendary you can’t put two into play so archon is typically better in that way
Another thing to note, fatal push was released as an Uncommon which meant it was easily obtainable. Also diabolic intent is a card that's similar to demonic tutor but requires you to sacrifice a creature to perform the search, it's useful in decks that have sac outlets like cauldron familiar or gravecrawler.
Actually it was rather tough to pull Fatal Push which is why it was worth double digits as an uncommon. You sometimes needed to open 4x boxes to get it. It wasn’t a normal Uncommon. It was a U1.
I was waiting to hear Yawgmoth's name...
Will and Bargain were cards that i was sure going to be in this list, and certainly should be.
Yawgmoth's Bargain and Yawgmoth's Will are both incredible cards (particularly the latter). They have seen a huge amount of play, even in the eternal formats. Still, as unfortunate as it may seem, they don't see that much play any more. Yawgmoth's Will only sees play in fairly fringe combo decks (some storm variants). Even most combo decks played these days (e.g., Doomsday) don't play Yawgmoth's Will. The truth is that these days there's access to better ways of setting up combos, which require less or setup or are more consistent.
@@ThomasRichardson-lj1ig because it's banned in legacy and is played very heavily in vintage
@@fred-ss4ym Vintage is a stupid format anyway, may as well not see any play anymore
@@FalseOracle617 that says nothing about the power level of the card. The fact it is too strong for legacy means its a strong card and should be on the list
@@fred-ss4ym I do not agree, enjoy the rest of your day
Yawgmoth's Will has entered the chat
The real most broken black card of all time is Contract From Below.
Also Yawgmoth's Will should be on the list
I agree whenever someone cast yawgmoth will it’s pretty much game over getting to replay every card in your graveyard I allways thought it was one of the most broken cards printed and if the contract was legal anywhere ever deck would play it you would have to splash black in every deck to play it to have a chance mud decks would even play it or they would lose
@@dansmith4107 I honestly think Contract From Below is the single most powerful Magic card of all time
@@EbonAvatar force of will, time walk...
@Martin Funk powerful cards to be sure but......one mana draw 7? Think of the hoops people jump through to get griselbrand into play, or to try and make a wheel effect one sided. Contract just IS a one-sided wheel for only 1 mana!
@@EbonAvatar force of will say no to anything for 0 mana... in my opinion just a little bit better
What about Yawgmoth's Will?
I was genuinely surprised to not see Yawgmoth's will, Yawgmoth's bargain, and Vampiric tutor in this list. They should've made this list for sure
I don't know how Yawgmoth's Bargain isn't on this list at all. That probably should be #1 as it usually ends the game when it resolves. Like, Fatal Push? Broken? HUH?!?
I completely agree with this thread, and have tried to & successfully played mono black & black + splash in vintage and legacy for 20 sumthin years. Carry on friends.
Theres literally no point in adding vampiric tutor. Demonic tutors just a better version of it so youd be rehashing the same shit. Whats the point in repeating yourself plus 1 mana
@@GamezPDD They are almost the same card but still not the same card yet there's a reason why they are so broken because of how powerful they are which is why they both deserve a spot. Of course you'd be repeating yourself, that's how good these cards are. They both deserve to be here, given they're both only legally playable as a 1 of in any deck that can run them in any format. Unless the cards are word-for-word the exact same card (eg: corrupted conviction and village rites or llanowar elves and elvish mystic) u can definitely and should include both because their effects are almost equally strong and are both more powerful cards than some of the cards at the bottom of the list like fatal push and bolas's citadel.
Vampiric tutor sort of shared the spot with demonic tutor. I could see Yawgmoth's bargain being below necropotence because it's harder to get out but it should still be on the list.
"and at NR.9 we have Molasses' Citadel" made me laugh out loud like a maniac
Yawgmoth's Will and Yawgmoth's Bargain should definitely be on this list. I'm not gonna quibble order, but those two are grievous omissions. I'm not sure that Dark Confidant makes the absolute, true top 10 handed down from the gods, but it surely should be in over Fatal Push. Then, I also have to mention Demonic Consultation, Vampiric Tutor and Imperial Seal, given Demonic Tutor's entry and place here. I'm not saying those should be above it or on par, or even that necessarily they have to make the list if it does, but, you gotta have the conversation. (And personally I really dislike Imperial Seal because it's a sorcery; if I can't Vampiric Tutor on the opponent's end step, what's the point? But I have to respect that it's banned in Legacy and restricted in Vintage for good reasons.) There are probably some others I'm forgetting here. Oh and Contract from Below is... I mean, it's never actually cast for black mana. So you can argue whether it should be on the "best black cards" list. So I think it's fine to omit from the main list, so long as you have it as an honorable mention (explaining its disqualification) at the start.
Yawg will and yawg bargain?
Well yawgmoth’s will has a strong competition in underworld breach. And bargain is pretty much a harder to cheat Griselbrand.
I’m surprised we didnt get a Fatal Push reprint with Gandalf and The Balrog.
They're waiting for next Theros block so they can make a more direct 300 reference.
@@jshtng78 that… would be amazing
This.. Is... BOROS! *boot*
been watching for a few years with the yu-gi-oh Top 10’s and i gotta say i love how you’ve changed up the captions (the yellow lettering you use) from just being exactly what you say. normally i just fall asleep or listen to your vids but it’s nice to read something along with the cards im not familiar with!
I remember Dark Ritual, and Demonic tutor... Also hymn to Tourach and Hypnotic Spector, and bad moon, and unholy strength
8:00 ATRAX??????
I was about to ask has nobody noticed that he mispronounced that? XD
No Yawgmoth’s Will??? No Mind Twist???
Actual most broken black card of all time is "Yawgmoth's Will." Just take my word for it kids, there will never be a stronger black card (or card in general for that matter) than that.
No Yawgmoth's Will? One of the greatest if not THE greatest bane of combo winter? Also, Yagmoth's Bargain could be consider equal, a bit weaker or a bit better to Necropotence depending the situation just because it doesnt have its downsides.
The most broken black card of all time is contract from below, one sided wheel for one mana
I find the utter lack of yawgmoths will or yawgmoths bargain to be vastly disturbing. Those are two of the most egregiously powerful black cards.
Bro really put black lotus in the intro 💀
Are you gonna disagree? Black is black.
@@tratanlightbreaker6029 until WotC makes it white (Looking at you, LotR set)
the real list:
1. contract from below
2. demonic tutor
3. yagmoth's will
4. entomb
5. doomsday
6. necropotence
7. vampiric tutor
8. dark ritual
9. yagmoth's bargain
10. mind twist
I almost agree with this, except I personally put Hymn in over Mind Twist
Okay contract from below is arguably the most powerful mtg card ever. But ante cards are banned absolutely everywhere, it’s pretty much the equivalent of un cards. I don’t think it’s relevant to take ante cards into account.
@@ericgasper6135 You have no idea of the power difference between those two. Hymn only is a thing because Mind Twist was heavily restricted or banned from the onset of the game.
OOO I forgot entirely about Mind Twist. That card is so busted. Also everybody still sleeping on Sinkhole, understandable because well, it's like Mind Twist, was banned/restricted pretty much immediately.
@@rashakor Mind twist costs 4+ mana to do more than what hymn does, it's a crappy card now. Sure it was far better when magic as a game was super slow and stuff like The Deck ran serra angel as a win condition, but now it's unplayable and not just because it's banned in legacy (it should have been unbanned 15 years ago.)
No Yawgmoth's Will, no Yawgmoth's Bargain, no Demonic Consultation, no Leyline of the Void, did mention Ad Nauseam but it wasn't on the top 10
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Uh oh, time to hear him mispronounce "Necropotence" again 😢
It took me a while to realize he intentionally mispronounced words for the extra comments to help with the RUclips algorithm. I can respect it.
Dang, and you didn't even spell it right, ain't that just ironic?
@@willmiller1179I think they were spelling TDL’s mispronunciation of the word, not the Card name itself.
I think they do it for the memes, no way you can slaughter it like that 😂
@@ColtonSpears I’m only realizing this now, that’s genius cuz he does it on his other channels, too
Maybe a video on Doomsday combos, since you mentioned its versatility?
Doomsday combo now is very, very straightforward because of thassa's oracle just saying you win post doomsday after some draw spells and such. Before thassa's oracle when gitaxian probe and sensei's divining top were legal it was used as a storm combo engine where the most complicated of piles went doomsday, draw through the pile, doomsday again, draw through, and then finally fire off a lethal tendrils of agony if the opponent had gained some life or something and the storm count was insufficient with one pile. It was also one of the most complicated decks to play in all of magic with almost no one playing it and most opting for the EPIC storm or ad nauseam tendrils.
Yawg will? Any other tutors?
As someone who owns a copy of every black card ever printed, this warms my dark heart.
Not sure how Yawgmoth's Will (aka Yawgmoth's Win) didnt make this list? I was lucky enough to get one from a booster back way back in the ancient world.
i wonder if it's possible to do a Maxx C challenge with Griselbrand's effect...
Uhh... Windfall and copies such as Twincast?
It would be more like a reverse Maxx C challenge, seeing if you can self-TK with it, because you yourself are it's only possible target. It's actually really hard to get a direct Maxx C Challenge in mtg, because repeatable draw-effects are generally optional/controllable and forcing your opponent to draw out with your own cards isn't so much a Maxx C challenge, because it's more proactively your win con usually. The only example I can think of when it comes to forcing an opponent to uncontrollably draw their entire deck due to their own effects is against dinosaurs. If they have an Elemental Bond, a Polyraptors and a Marauding Raptors, dealing a single damage to the Polyraptors is enough to send them into an uncontrollable spiral of creating Polyraptor tokens, which upon immediately taking damage from Marauding Raptors create more Polyraptors, all the while Elemental Bond forces him to draw cards until he decks out.
I came here looking to fill out my zombie commander deck but like all but one of these cards are from pre 2013, has nothing good came out since?
Not to mention Contact from below. The best card in the game and its not even close
Problem is you can't play it. I ran a few games with it in the mid 90's, but no one in my area played ante games with serious decks. We all built jank stuff where we didn't mind losing a card.
That card is indeed ridiculous.
Yawgmoth's Will?
I'm pretty sure, to date, it's the only card in magic that has an argument to be a better card than ancestral recall.
I don't know man, I have to consider any top 10 list that doesn't have that card on it to be an exceptionally hot take.
10:35 With so many artwork options for Dark Ritual, this one is my favorite.
Bolas's Citadel can be fairly dangerous when used with Vilis, Broker of Blood.
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I watch every video you drop regardless if you're AI
TDL isn't AI lmfao he's just a YGO player that gets other people to write his scripts because he doesn't know MTG
A lot of people on this channel, like me, are also just YGO players unfamiliar with how to pronounce this stuff not just him lol
I find it strange no Yawg's Will
Also if we want to get technical, Contract From Below would be no-doubt #1
I think Demonic Consultation, Grief and Vampiric Tutor could be in your list (rather than Fatal Push or Archon for instance).
Fun fact : among the 10 cards of your top, no one is banned in duel commander.
Demonic consultation??
Demonic Attorney, but seriously no Hymn or Twist is suspect as well
I thought 8 tracks were discontinued in the 70s. Why are we talking about them when discussing reanimation targets??
mind twist/hymn to tourach?yawgmoth's bargain?yawgmoth's will?contract from below?
Uh, I know that it is rarely seen (because it is banned in every format and restricted in vintage because it is so broken), you must have missed Yawgmoth’s Will.
I honestly believe Dark Ritual is by far the most powerful black card. There are very few card that have the versatility that it has. Dark Ritual is the first card that enabled a first turn kill. It really tough to compete with a card that allows a potential of 9 mana first turn without using any other cards besides a single swamp.
Black lotus
1:52 Okay, you did that on purpose! I now believe you mispronounce names on purpose!
I thought recurring nightmare was gonna be in the group. But a lot of these cards are banned or heavily restricted. Which also indicates how powerful these cards are
I don't know, I think Slaughter Pact, while fallen off grace, might still be worth consideration for the best removal. Also, the same old issue with formats, because as mentioned formats that can afford to be just a bit slower (or play higher mana values) Fatal Push is worse than more generic two-mana removal.
Push, Thoughtseize, and Demonic Tutor are all powerful, but not one of them is broken. Tutor I suppose could be on the list, but not that high. Meanwhile, not having Yawgmoth's Will on this list is inexcusable. If you don't think it's #1, which it is, it still has to be top 3. Having Necropotence and not mentioning Yawgmoth's Bargain (which could share a slot like you did with the Tutors) is embarassing, since it costs more but has none of the other downsides. Finally, Contract from Below is insanely nutty and must be mentioned, even if you consider it not the most powerful because no one plays for ante. Discard your hand and draw 7 for 1 black mana? C'mon.
I agree with you. DT isn't really broken. "Is the best card in my deck still good if it costs 2 more mana?" For the most part, that answer is no, but it depends on the format. If you're getting a game-winning combo piece, then it is. If you're getting a 4-mana creature, it's not. Tutors increase linearity and consistency of decks, not sheer power. Put Necro even in a middling deck (play it fairly) and you get so ahead on cards you probably win. DT for a middling card in a middling deck and you still don't do much.
I'm not sure that Fatal Push is more broken than Demonic Consultation, Vampiric Tutor, Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, or like... any number of other black cards
Yawgmoth's Bargain , Yawgmoth's will , hymn and I am not sure if mind twist is broken nowdays but of the beast it was back in the day
No way you've never heard anyone say "Atraxa" before
"atrax" lmfao
Yawgmoth's Bargain and Yawgmoth's will are extremely "broken"
I would also include Hatred as it used to end games faster than anything else
i find it really odd and interesting that Simian Spirit Guide is banned in modern, but i don't see Elvish Spirit Guide on the list.
Also, when explaining Griselbrand, you somehow said "Mana" instead of "life" derp
Elvish Spirit Guide is a pre-Modern card, not legal in the format by default.
No Contract from Below?
You left out Imperial Seal, though to be fair it's basically just a much more expensive version of Vampiric Tutor.
Still waiting on wotc to reprint more of the Portal Three Kingdoms cards...
its actually the worst of the big three. Vamp is an instant, Seal is a sorcery. Both are weaker to Demonic, who delivers right into your hand.
When Necropotence was first printed in Ice Age. Icy Manipulator was the hottest card in the set for several months.
Necrodominance is virtually identical to Necropotence - except it's not restricted in Vintage for some reason? I'll bet a dollar it gets restricted soon. Also, just look up restricted black cards in Vintage:
1. Demonic Consultation.
2. Demonic Tutor.
3. Imperial Seal.
4. Necropotence.
5. Vampiric Tutor.
6. Yawgmoth's Will
Surprised Yawgmoths Bargain wasn't here, but good list
I always find it irritating how often wizards was like "2 life? Sure that's enough of a downside" and then they print a format defining 4of
Ur videos are amazing. Thank you..
As fun as this video is, the pronunciation at 7:59 really caught me off guard LMAO
Off the top of my head, in no particular order:
1. Dark Ritual
2. Yawgmoth's Will
3. Yawgmoth's Bargain
4. Necropotence
5. Necrodominance
6. Griselbrand
7. Entomb
8. Buried Alive
9. Doomsday
10. Contract from Below
Recurring nightmare and y will should be in there...😊
Ok, am I the only person alive that still remembers Yawgmoth's Will?
You neglected to mention that you can thoughtseize yourself to put a reanimate target in the gy.
and lower your life total for death's shadow or similar
No Yawgmoth's Will is odd
What about best Tinker Targets?
Demonic tutor for necropotence, dune scarred demon, or razaketh for continuous tutor or draws is one of my primary orzhov strategies. Lol
Bolas's Citadel could probably combo well with Eatherflux reservoir.
i know this video is old but yawgmoth's will or tendrils of agony should be on there. They basically say you win the game.
Snuff out - because you kill without paying mana cost ...def deserves a spot on the list
How do you mispronounce Attraxa
Phyrexian Obliterator is the one card that if I play it, my Magic playing friends just concede and say "next" as in "next deck". I'll often Dark Ritual into it on turn #2 and then it's too powerful to be fun.
Tell them about Swords to plowshares/Path to exile/Condemn, blue 1 mana bounces, any black spell that kills, beast within and chaos warp haaahhaha
NEXT (man wish obliterator was good in standard :()
@@casabaixo I had a Swords to Plowshares. They made me trade it lol. I forget what I got for it. Not a ton.
@@mattblom3990 Man, it's time to find another playgroup hahahah
Ad Nauseam deserves a mention, maybe not top 10 but its rather good.
Though intomb does nothing with itself,but search a certain card and put into graveyard is really strong.still mind twist also a powerful card I think 🤔
No demonic consultation?
I wouldn’t have put demonic tutor above, say, doomsday, the spell that costs only one more than it and usually wins the game on the spot.
Was expecting sheoldred 2.0, but i guess its not broken, just very powerful.
LOL he said pay mana instead of life for griselbrand. Grisel would be way more fair if you paid 7 mana for 7 cards.
Contract from Below
Yawgmoth's Will
Hymn to Tourach
No on Hymn. Why have Hymn when you can have MIND TWIST, the original gigabroken discard spell.
@@danlorett2184 cheapness and early game play vs an x spell. turn 1 dark ritual, hymn, then anything else can be devastating.
All these people meming about contract from below when the card literally does nothing because it fizzles at the word "ante" because ante is an illegal action
@@randomcatname7792 you've never played for ante before?
@@randallross420 if you're playing for ante, you're using an entirely different unofficial ruleset that changes the power of cards so it shouldn't be considered
Uhm escuse me, and where is yawgmoth's will? Maybe n°0?
no yawgmoth will and bargain? no mind twist?? and the most incredible thing is that very few comment have mentioned RECURRING NIGHTMARE????? I understood not mentioning ante cards but fatal push? really? event the orcish bowmaster is better than fatal push to me
Amazing!!!!
If they ever make a black colossal dreadmaw it will be on top of this list.
No contract from below?
I love the original dark ritual design
This list missed a few obviously more broken cards, such as imperial seal and entomb. You also have unmask, hymn to tourach, yawgmoths bargain etc. Those 3 are stronger than Fatal Push
Disagree on Hymn and Unmask. Also there's no Yawgmoth's Will, which frankly is one of the most busted cards ever, let alone black cards.
@@danlorett2184 ye, demonic tutor and Yawgmoth's Will are probably the 2 most broken black cards. Could make an argument for necro though.
I think hymn is up there because its always a 2 for 1 + insane upside if you rip a land and your opponent cannot play.
@@HopefulAgnostic It's funny how doomsday can even be in the conversation now for one of the most broken black cards in all honesty because it can win the game by itself with no sort of luck factor as you choose the 5 cards.
I wouldn't put imperial seal on the list, it REALLY isn't as powerful as some people think it is because it's a sorcery. The instant speed of vamp tutor makes the card so much better in a great many situations. I'd even prefer mystical tutor over it if we ignore pyroblast/red elemental blast, but decks with mystical tutor have many must counter blue cards.
@@dark_rit Oh ye, Doomsday is absolutely in the top 10, I'm just saying that my examples are stronger than fatal push, not that they are more powerful than the others on the list.
As long as you have one life you're fine
*Burn decks enter*
You no longer have that one life
The way he intentionally mispronounced Bolas.. my god
No Yawgmoth's Will?
great work! keep it up
Fatal Push: Otherwise known as "THIS! IS! SPARTA!"
your forgetting "Pact from below" , sure it's not legal in any format, and never will be again but drawing seven cards for one mana, is broken beyond everything else on the list. it was a legal card when it came out
I personally like death cloud, it's pretty nice for the cost
Power... At any cost. Love black 🖤
Hymn to Tourach from Fallen Empires was so busted back in the day. Which is saying something because that set wasn't great.
Yawgmoth’s Bargain?