You know what's sad about the ending change? That they said "it no longer applies anymore" because it was supposed to depict the unthinkable at that time
In postal one, you play as postal dude REAL father, in the ending he was about to shoot the kids, but he refused to shoot and had a break down, he is still alive and was sent to asylum.
They were ok, it was the last time wendy koopa killed me in mario 3 i went berzerk. Gladly they let me out on the internet in this fine correction center which i will never be released from.
@@janinn221 there must be some kind of article on it and I seen videos about it here, it happened in the 80s or 70s in California, his name was Herbert Mullin
I remember hearing him talk about that on a podcast or two and I just think that would be so surreal to hear the Postal Dude cover like...the weather or a local ballgame of all things.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames He makes a cameo in a popular Postal 2 mod, Eternal Damnation as a News Broadcast announcer and it honestly is pretty seamless in how it fits
I very much prefer the original to redux. Something about it feels more artistic. Maybe it's the limitations leaving stuff up to the imagination but it's very gripping
It's "of the era" making does put it on that ephemeral level and provides a unique experience different from Redux. You wouldn't be able to get away with the final stage in today's age.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames esepcially when the devs themaelves took it out of the redux becuase when they originally made the game, they thought violence against children was so out there that it would never happen...but then columbine changed that
@@glitch5110 kids and babies have always been killed and even worse than that but in Postal 1... it was supposed to be in a 'school' where children were safe and this kind of thing didn't happen yet
Normally I hate when a remake or update changes the story of a game, especially if it completely changes some element due to controversy. However, changing Postal's final level is one I understand and support. The developers have said when they first designed it, it was meant to be this really edgy and horrible thing, a scene so gruesome it's unimaginable, before faking you out. But the sad truth of the modern world is you no longer even need to imagine a school shooting, you just need to check the news.
Not really even a modern world thing. Kids and babies being slaughtered has been a horrible crime committed through out all of history. It's just sometimes people do it with guns in highly dense population zones now.
Ya know, when I first heard about Postal 2 and how controversial the entire series was, I thought "Oh, it's probably on the same level as Doom or GTA"... No. Looking at the ending of this ga- God no I was wrong...
worse yet. When the devs made postal, they wanted to create such a vile yet absurd scenario, postal dude woudlnt' just shoot kids, even if his delirium tried to convince him of doing so and has a break down. The reason they changed the last level is because sadly it's not an absurd scenario anymore (columbine happened just months after this game came out)
My friend introduced me to Postal and i can say it’s one of the darkest games ive ever covered/looked at. Given that Dude has some serious issues going on in his head, and the amount of Violence. But at the same time, Hatred is also like that.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames Legit. I first got into Hatred because (Ngl Antagonist or Not Important is kinda 😳) but then i started to explore postal when my friend introduced it to me.
Hatred is an edgy postal wannabe, they lack any of the self awereness, seriousness and message behind that the first postal had, Hatred is just "kill everyone people bad" Postal shows a thought process of a very unreliable and ill "author" of his own mind, which once lived through real events, it also gives you the option to spare anyone that isn't an active enemy (i.e shoots at you), the diary entries are unsettling and give us hints about his possible military past as well, Hatred lacks any of it, it's like a tech demo of Postal but somehow even worse
Fun fact, I actually interviewed Mike and Vince back before the release of Redux. On the subject of Postal 3 each had different outlooks. If they ever got the ability to, Mike J would actually be up for fixing Postal 3 to at least try and make it much more stable and maybe even rework the game to be open world. Vince on the other hand would rather just let it burn.
Sometimes I wonder why RUclips will recommend me things that I have to scroll over for half an hour but wait for 2 years with something that I actually find interesting. I myself, as probably many others, played Postal 2 first (in 2014, I was 12 at time so I most likely shouldn't have, but for one I am somehow still not a mass murderer, and two: by the time I grew up and finally understood the satire behind it, I just came to appreciate how over the top and completely self-aware it all was. Bottom-line is I love that game and the "Steme" store inside it was my first exposure to the first installment back in 2016. Now, fast forward to 2022. Similar commentary videos about Postal 1 and Redux are popping up in my recommended feed. Every single one claimed that this game is a lot darker, at the time I was not in that state of mind, I did not watch them. This year in the spring I replayed Postal 2 and seeing that they had a sale, fired up, I decided to buy all *3* existing mainline games and Brain Damaged. I heard that the game was short so I decided to get ready and than beat the entire game in one sitting, no breaks, on hard difficulty. I read every single war journal, examined the really good looking loadscreens and as the game wanted mowed down everyone and everything that moved. First half of the game I was having a blast as I genuinely thought (and still think) that it's a good isometric shooter at face value. However after the first half this feeling started creeping over me. Not boredom, especially not in the midgame, I was struggling actually, the game is quite hard, but every single level passed I was like "do I WANT to do this?". Not in the way like someone transforming into the nutcase portrayed in the game, but as someone who disagrees with what he's doing. Approaching the final levels, I managed to get over the hurdles and actually learned how to be aware of my and the enemy's positioning and as the levels became easier, my mind had more time to be occupied with how disgusted I was, I guess, I don't even know what I felt. After typing this absolute chonker of a comment I am realizing that I can't describe what I felt other than a certain disconnect. Again I loved the game but I guess felt some kind of hate toward the experience (?). I really don't know. And I don't know if the devs planned this, but it just ended up in my mind as a unique experience. Obviously the original ending would have been the cherry on top, but still the dry narration of this doctor dude along with the artwork and the sound effects... The only thing I could think of was: "Yea, that's about the ending I deserve". After listening to the distant bizarre droning background sounds and the gunshots and the screaming... Again, I don't know if it was just my conscience, regardless if they were virtual people (just noticing that I - without paying attention - addressed them as "they") or the devs actually planned it but they succeeded in creating a truly unique thing. Thanks if you've read through this mess, after watching the video I was reminded that I never really told this little story to anyone, despite the strong feelings the game invoked and suddenly felt the need to get this out of me. It really is a game that everyone should play once or at least people who played Postal 2. It is really cool in itself but I think it holds even more value as a contrasting piece to Postal 2. Man the amount of shit I wrote down... I really could have made my own video on this lmao
While the guts-filled dumpsters on the Band Level may be hallucinated by Dude Rocket turrets are a direct impact on his well being And are in the most random of places. A retirement home.... has a rocket turret... A Gas station.... Has a rocket turret... Sometimes even a store... has a rocket turret.. So iether all of the events take place purely in his head or he is actually up against some seriously crazy odds in a crazy world.
The way I see it, he actually is going out and slaughtering people but he sees it as this war where they’re fighting back with crazy shit like turrets, when in reality he’s just killing innocents
probably just a concession of level design and representative levels. An example of this is Duke Nukem, which has places like a movie theater, a strip club, etc. While Doom takes the opposite route: Levels are just vague hallways and rooms with decorations to invoke the feeling of "industrial" or "techbase" Nukem's is easier to understand + navigate and the Doom way lets (hypothetically, let's be honest there are some shit levels in DOOM II) the creator focus on gameplay and create fantastical environments where walls collapse and bridges raise from the ground
or simply paradise town is a big government project to create the perfect supersoldier throught mass shootings there one is desensitived and removed of any humanity in order to create soldier without humanity mercy and pure discipline and murdering skill as a terror weapon
Yeah, the story of postal is "man goes crazy and kills everyone" Wich also could be.. Man has a voice telling him everyone wants him dead , gets an eviction notice, so he starts to see everyone as threats and goes into a rampage, until he's confronted with shooting kids (or a funeral depending the release), he can't take it anymore and finally gives up. Your description could also be given to Hatred... Hatred, beyond the gameplay is conceptually such a worse game because the character has zero dimention. Not important just hates everyone. Postal dude is a increasingly disturbed man who isn't in the verge of abyss, and as a cope mechanism lives in a delirium where everyone wants him dead. Hatred guy hates everyone.
I remember watching another video about Postal 1/redux and a comment suggested that on Normal and below The Journal entries show what Postal Dude thinks he wrote in there, while Hard and above shows what he actually wrote in his journal.
I like to think of it as being the opposite. Easy/normal show what the dude actually wrote in his journal, showcasing his depersonification into the "demon" persona (or actual demonic possession depending on the interpretation of events) while the hard/nightmare difficulty shows what Postal Dude _thinks_ he wrotes in his journal, appearing scared, paranoid, and on the defense against everyone else in town.
everything you said about people being motivated by exposure was facts, glorifying people who do horrible things will lead to others idolizing and wanting to do the same
So the lines from dude are dubed as demon in the files, its not dude himself is not saying that, his inner thoughts and itch is talking "the demon.". He seeing something entirely different the player doesn't see what he sees entirely, the loading screens and the ending is the only time we really see what he sees.
And the ending of rampage is basically showing us dude fighting himself to show us he has conquered his mind kinda a true ending to the game because what he is standing on is used to fight everyone and everything to get to the top.
Great write up. Though the game can get pretty bogged down in it's repetitive nature, all the subtext and background details are much more interesting. Certainly a game worth dissecting and delving into past the guts of the gameplay.
I totally get the change to the ending, but man has the overall series fallen off hard since Postal II… and even Postal II doesn’t really hold up to the mood Postal had. Postal IV… is wep wop not sure how to react to it.
that isn't really true at all considering postal 2 has been added to after postal 3 with expansions better than the base game as well as brain damaged. 4 was just mediocre with 4 being the only real bad game. I'd say postal 2 is better than the original as while the first has a great mood postal 2 is one of the greatest satirical games ever made
@@plugshirt1762postal 2 and 1 are both equally fun although I had way more fun playing 1, but paradise lost is way better than both. Postal 3 is absolutely horrible and 4 isn't as bad as people say, I've had decent fun playing it the only issue being the crashes
@@d3ds3c25 oh yeah to clarify I mean postal 4 is the only bad game they’ve made not in general as postal 3 I pretend isnt even in the series. I wouldn’t say 4 is terrible by any means but it just feels like it’s perpetually the watered down version of postal 2 which makes it feel worse.
@@plugshirt1762 yeah I get what you're saying, the first time I played it I was like "wtf is this?" But then as I started cutting it some slack it was actually pretty fun
I've done some personal testing, and I've found (at least for me) that the video goes you play do effect how I think about things, but never to the extreme that the stereotype is, but there is something there. Might just be my ADHD idk
I feel like it effects you the most if you are already not quite right in the head. If anything, a person who ends up showing signs of instability probably should not play such games, and that may be a catalyst in their mind. But I know in others it is their outlet to keep themselves from also going postal. All in all is a pretty fucked dilemma to gave.
Technically Postal: Brain Damage is sorta that just that it's more in line with the tone that Postal 2 and later entries went with. Hatred with the First Person mod is also kinda similar but what you speak of hasn't been fully replicated.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames no I mean the entire postal 1 game in first person, same levels/maps, same art style, same weapons, same enemies, same sounds effects and voice lines, pretty much just postal 1 in first person.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames I wanted to mention postal mostly because Doom and Duke Nukem offer monsters as enemies while postal as a more sinister tone to join with the humans enemies that you kill
7:00 I mean you're not worng in the slightest. I complketely agree. The media feeds off of events like this wich I feel like inspires other such as the recent Highland Park sooter (not gonna give that asshole the recognition he wants). A song by Watsky titled 'Stick To Your Guns" explains this as well.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames oh shit. Didnt know that! I personally dont care about the ending and get why they had to change it. I dont think they ever intended for it to cone across the way it did. Anyways good video!
@@Goofy-fd7cz they didn't have to change it they changed it because the original was shown as killing children is too far and something most people think is unthinkable but now a days where you can go on the news and find stuff like that they thought it wasn't as "far out there" so they changed it
The two dudes aren't the same tbh, I have a theory that PDude1 is his real father. As seen in Postal 4 he has an edgy personality compared to PDude2 who's more comedic and stupid
For all the things Redux did well, there were three major things that I disliked about it that I believe are an easy fix: A) The art style feels somewhat cartoonish and detached from the overall tone of the original game B) The speed of the animations appears to be seemingly slower than it was in the original, perhaps it's just me, but it does take away from the seriousness of combat C) For starters, I'm aware of why they changed the ending and the connotations behind it... But I truly believe the original ending was much more impactful and gave more meaning to the overall tone and story of the character
I only played Postal 1 and Never had those problems with the game, I learned to throw molotov Or use napalm in front of it. The same would go for redux if I had it
Postal 1 maybe is the final straw of postal. Postal 1 is the present while the other postal like postal 2 is he is sane. Until in the final postal 1 he turns crazy ig.
I thought you would talk about the war journals more In depth. Or mention how the postal dude was a gulf war or vietnam war vet due to his well use of weapons. And this Is more like a basic review not a full blown analysis. I also dont like how much scripted this video Is.
The dude (at least from Postal 1) looks to be in his mid-late 20s, so that probably rules out that he served in Vietnam. I do like to think he served in the Gulf War since it does sort of fit into the same timeframe, and the actions of that war (as well as the existence of Gulf War syndrome that caused many health issues in soldiers that fought in the conflict) could partly explain why he went "postal"
I love the people that act like video games dont make kids do bad shit. When the warriors came out we were mf tearing shit up. Rocks thru windows stealing shit and breaking everything we could ✌️😂
So, Postal is literally just a mass shooter simulator. No depth, no message, just edgy point n click. And people have the audacity to get mad at media for branding the game as controversial...
There is a strong message behind, read the diary entries, think a bit for yourself, if you played the game you'd know you don't even have to kill non hostile NPCs, the game is played through the protagonists "imagination", it's an unreliable version of the real events, he did commit a murder spree, but as the ending and many other things suggest it's not exactly how it went down, and as the diary entries suggest he might've been in the military or as the ending suggests he might've been possessed by a demon or "the player", and acted only as bad as the person controlling him wanted to, there's a lot to learn from this meta-massacre game, especially the first ending where you cannot harm any of the children and you realise you're going insane/it's all in your head, why does the player see a bunch of kids and instantly want to shoot them? I see you missed the point of this game entirely
You know what's sad about the ending change? That they said "it no longer applies anymore" because it was supposed to depict the unthinkable at that time
Really says a lot about humanity
Postal one and postal redux does have a lore
In postal redux, you play as postal dude STEP father, in the ending he dies because he saw himself on the graveyard dead
In postal one, you play as postal dude REAL father, in the ending he was about to shoot the kids, but he refused to shoot and had a break down, he is still alive and was sent to asylum.
my theory is that in coop ending
He was released from aslyum by 4 men's(or three) or maybe 4 men was a assassination for postal dude real father
The goombas i killed in Mario Brothers really pushed me over the edge.
After the first one, I stopped and confessed my sins
They were ok, it was the last time wendy koopa killed me in mario 3 i went berzerk. Gladly they let me out on the internet in this fine correction center which i will never be released from.
Once you kill a goomba, his blood is on your hands, it will never come off, might as well kill another goomba.
Kill
I stomped a goomba… and liked it
I should point out that during the ending, it's a doctor, not a news reporter, that's talking in the end. Great video, though. Love the Postal series.
Yeah, I read later after completing the video it was a doctor running a prognosis. Still creepy and effective at setting the tone.
It reminds me of that guy who started killing people because he believed that it would appease something and stop the earthquakes.
@@Krakkokayne huh, is there an article or smt on it ? sounds interesting
@@janinn221 there must be some kind of article on it and I seen videos about it here, it happened in the 80s or 70s in California, his name was Herbert Mullin
@@Krakkokayne thanks!
Fun Fact: Rick Hunter has a main job outside of being the Postal Dude, he's a voice guy for local radio and news stations
I remember hearing him talk about that on a podcast or two and I just think that would be so surreal to hear the Postal Dude cover like...the weather or a local ballgame of all things.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames He makes a cameo in a popular Postal 2 mod, Eternal Damnation as a News Broadcast announcer and it honestly is pretty seamless in how it fits
Imagine watching the news about some horrifing crime and suddenly the reporter looks into the camera and goes.
*I regret nothing*
I very much prefer the original to redux. Something about it feels more artistic. Maybe it's the limitations leaving stuff up to the imagination but it's very gripping
It's "of the era" making does put it on that ephemeral level and provides a unique experience different from Redux. You wouldn't be able to get away with the final stage in today's age.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames esepcially when the devs themaelves took it out of the redux becuase when they originally made the game, they thought violence against children was so out there that it would never happen...but then columbine changed that
I like the more raw artstyle of the stages. They feel more like comic book than redux
@@glitch5110 kids and babies have always been killed and even worse than that but in Postal 1... it was supposed to be in a 'school' where children were safe and this kind of thing didn't happen yet
Postal 1 is basically the Proper way to do Hatred.
If only anyone even remember Hatred
Wait, do you mean Redux or the original postal?
@@shadowmasterking6542 applies to both
Hatred sucked even though it was an almost exact copy of postal 1 😂
@@Albert_EGGskerMy NaMe Is NoT iMpOrTaNt
_Hatred_ is such a funny parody of pathetically edgy game developers lo- wait, were we meant to take that game seriously?
Normally I hate when a remake or update changes the story of a game, especially if it completely changes some element due to controversy. However, changing Postal's final level is one I understand and support. The developers have said when they first designed it, it was meant to be this really edgy and horrible thing, a scene so gruesome it's unimaginable, before faking you out. But the sad truth of the modern world is you no longer even need to imagine a school shooting, you just need to check the news.
Not really even a modern world thing. Kids and babies being slaughtered has been a horrible crime committed through out all of history. It's just sometimes people do it with guns in highly dense population zones now.
@@ndfdm5705 but... but america bad and invented violence!
@@ndfdm5705 well this time in reality, it was supposed to be in a 'school' where children were safe... didn't you get that?
@@godzillazfriction
Hey there, sorry to tell ya, but Columbine wasn't exactly the first school shooting.
@@Rad-Dude63andathird tf are you even on about... chill out SCHIZO
Ya know, when I first heard about Postal 2 and how controversial the entire series was, I thought "Oh, it's probably on the same level as Doom or GTA"... No. Looking at the ending of this ga- God no I was wrong...
Postal really is its own beast. For better (with the case of the Original/Redux, 2, and 4) and worse (3 and Corkscrew Rules)
worse yet. When the devs made postal, they wanted to create such a vile yet absurd scenario, postal dude woudlnt' just shoot kids, even if his delirium tried to convince him of doing so and has a break down.
The reason they changed the last level is because sadly it's not an absurd scenario anymore (columbine happened just months after this game came out)
My friend introduced me to Postal and i can say it’s one of the darkest games ive ever covered/looked at. Given that Dude has some serious issues going on in his head, and the amount of Violence. But at the same time, Hatred is also like that.
That's what is so interesting between Postal 1 and Hatred is that the latter is in on the joke while the former is stone cold serious.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames Legit. I first got into Hatred because (Ngl Antagonist or Not Important is kinda 😳) but then i started to explore postal when my friend introduced it to me.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames hatred does not feel in on the joke
Hatred is an edgy postal wannabe, they lack any of the self awereness, seriousness and message behind that the first postal had,
Hatred is just "kill everyone people bad"
Postal shows a thought process of a very unreliable and ill "author" of his own mind, which once lived through real events, it also gives you the option to spare anyone that isn't an active enemy (i.e shoots at you), the diary entries are unsettling and give us hints about his possible military past as well, Hatred lacks any of it, it's like a tech demo of Postal but somehow even worse
@@countervolition Yea
my npc body count would make mao and stalin blush
I think it is safe to say that a lot of people who have played video games have killed quite a number of fictional people.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames your not wrong
we do be killin those 101101001011 tho
Mao killed 50 million and Stalin killed 20 million.
For how long have you played video games and what kind of video games do you play?
@@Leonard_Wolf_2056i think they were being sarcastic
blood in the Redux doesn't have that slight transluscent brown that the original had. Which is more effective at creating a "believable stain"
I love this video, idk why it reminds me of older commentary videos you'd see years ago in like 2015. Good job!
Just bought this yesterday, so far I'm enjoying it. Getting A+ on rampage levels are a little tough
Yeah, the mindset from the original game mode and Rampage does take a bit of getting used to
Had no idea the War Journals were in Redux at all!
Fun fact, I actually interviewed Mike and Vince back before the release of Redux. On the subject of Postal 3 each had different outlooks. If they ever got the ability to, Mike J would actually be up for fixing Postal 3 to at least try and make it much more stable and maybe even rework the game to be open world. Vince on the other hand would rather just let it burn.
Good analysis!
Thanks Dude, shame about the twelve year coma because of the head injury but I'm glad to see you on the up and up.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames Yeah,that was minorly inconvenient,atleast I got a break from that woman.
@@Go_D_Josopp Dude you're hot.
Sometimes I wonder why RUclips will recommend me things that I have to scroll over for half an hour but wait for 2 years with something that I actually find interesting.
I myself, as probably many others, played Postal 2 first (in 2014, I was 12 at time so I most likely shouldn't have, but for one I am somehow still not a mass murderer, and two: by the time I grew up and finally understood the satire behind it, I just came to appreciate how over the top and completely self-aware it all was. Bottom-line is I love that game and the "Steme" store inside it was my first exposure to the first installment back in 2016.
Now, fast forward to 2022. Similar commentary videos about Postal 1 and Redux are popping up in my recommended feed. Every single one claimed that this game is a lot darker, at the time I was not in that state of mind, I did not watch them. This year in the spring I replayed Postal 2 and seeing that they had a sale, fired up, I decided to buy all *3* existing mainline games and Brain Damaged.
I heard that the game was short so I decided to get ready and than beat the entire game in one sitting, no breaks, on hard difficulty. I read every single war journal, examined the really good looking loadscreens and as the game wanted mowed down everyone and everything that moved. First half of the game I was having a blast as I genuinely thought (and still think) that it's a good isometric shooter at face value. However after the first half this feeling started creeping over me. Not boredom, especially not in the midgame, I was struggling actually, the game is quite hard, but every single level passed I was like "do I WANT to do this?". Not in the way like someone transforming into the nutcase portrayed in the game, but as someone who disagrees with what he's doing. Approaching the final levels, I managed to get over the hurdles and actually learned how to be aware of my and the enemy's positioning and as the levels became easier, my mind had more time to be occupied with how disgusted I was, I guess, I don't even know what I felt. After typing this absolute chonker of a comment I am realizing that I can't describe what I felt other than a certain disconnect. Again I loved the game but I guess felt some kind of hate toward the experience (?). I really don't know. And I don't know if the devs planned this, but it just ended up in my mind as a unique experience. Obviously the original ending would have been the cherry on top, but still the dry narration of this doctor dude along with the artwork and the sound effects... The only thing I could think of was: "Yea, that's about the ending I deserve".
After listening to the distant bizarre droning background sounds and the gunshots and the screaming... Again, I don't know if it was just my conscience, regardless if they were virtual people (just noticing that I - without paying attention - addressed them as "they") or the devs actually planned it but they succeeded in creating a truly unique thing.
Thanks if you've read through this mess, after watching the video I was reminded that I never really told this little story to anyone, despite the strong feelings the game invoked and suddenly felt the need to get this out of me. It really is a game that everyone should play once or at least people who played Postal 2. It is really cool in itself but I think it holds even more value as a contrasting piece to Postal 2.
Man the amount of shit I wrote down... I really could have made my own video on this lmao
While the guts-filled dumpsters on the Band Level may be hallucinated by Dude
Rocket turrets are a direct impact on his well being
And are in the most random of places.
A retirement home.... has a rocket turret...
A Gas station.... Has a rocket turret...
Sometimes even a store... has a rocket turret..
So iether all of the events take place purely in his head
or he is actually up against some seriously crazy odds in a crazy world.
The way I see it, he actually is going out and slaughtering people but he sees it as this war where they’re fighting back with crazy shit like turrets, when in reality he’s just killing innocents
probably just a concession of level design and representative levels. An example of this is Duke Nukem, which has places like a movie theater, a strip club, etc. While Doom takes the opposite route: Levels are just vague hallways and rooms with decorations to invoke the feeling of "industrial" or "techbase" Nukem's is easier to understand + navigate and the Doom way lets (hypothetically, let's be honest there are some shit levels in DOOM II) the creator focus on gameplay and create fantastical environments where walls collapse and bridges raise from the ground
or simply paradise town is a big government project to create the perfect supersoldier throught mass shootings there one is desensitived and removed of any humanity in order to create soldier without humanity mercy and pure discipline and murdering skill as a terror weapon
lisa sounds and music caught me off guard. but now that i think about it, dude would definitely fit perfectly within lisa
Great overview of this game
Yeah, the story of postal is "man goes crazy and kills everyone"
Wich also could be..
Man has a voice telling him everyone wants him dead , gets an eviction notice, so he starts to see everyone as threats and goes into a rampage, until he's confronted with shooting kids (or a funeral depending the release), he can't take it anymore and finally gives up.
Your description could also be given to Hatred... Hatred, beyond the gameplay is conceptually such a worse game because the character has zero dimention. Not important just hates everyone. Postal dude is a increasingly disturbed man who isn't in the verge of abyss, and as a cope mechanism lives in a delirium where everyone wants him dead.
Hatred guy hates everyone.
I remember watching another video about Postal 1/redux and a comment suggested that on Normal and below The Journal entries show what Postal Dude thinks he wrote in there, while Hard and above shows what he actually wrote in his journal.
ruclips.net/video/rXLZseidYqY/видео.html
I like to think of it as being the opposite. Easy/normal show what the dude actually wrote in his journal, showcasing his depersonification into the "demon" persona (or actual demonic possession depending on the interpretation of events) while the hard/nightmare difficulty shows what Postal Dude _thinks_ he wrotes in his journal, appearing scared, paranoid, and on the defense against everyone else in town.
really great vid man, you deserve more subs frfr
WHEN I SAW SLICK AFTER YOU SAID "HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN" I ACTUALLY GOT SO HAPPY BAHAHAHA WHAT THE HELL
Why tf did postal redux Activate my anti virus 💀💀💀
8:13 I really wonder who acted as the postal dude in this live action picture that’s also on the original game‘s backside of the cd-box
I would assume someone from the RWS office. Kinda like how sometimes developers do voice-acting as a cost saving measure.
everything you said about people being motivated by exposure was facts, glorifying people who do horrible things will lead to others idolizing and wanting to do the same
That "HEY" Editors note sound actually scared me. 😂 had to rewind to make sure someone isnt in my apartment.
I know I wouldn't want Vega Van Dam (the guy who makes the HEY sound) in my house.
So the lines from dude are dubed as demon in the files, its not dude himself is not saying that, his inner thoughts and itch is talking "the demon.". He seeing something entirely different the player doesn't see what he sees entirely, the loading screens and the ending is the only time we really see what he sees.
And the ending of rampage is basically showing us dude fighting himself to show us he has conquered his mind kinda a true ending to the game because what he is standing on is used to fight everyone and everything to get to the top.
Hey! thanks for using my video in 6:24
I want a thematic sequel to Postal 1997.
In a way, Hatred is basically that just with having a mess of gameplay.
Awesome video, glad it was in my recommendations!1
Great write up.
Though the game can get pretty bogged down in it's repetitive nature, all the subtext and background details are much more interesting.
Certainly a game worth dissecting and delving into past the guts of the gameplay.
I totally get the change to the ending, but man has the overall series fallen off hard since Postal II… and even Postal II doesn’t really hold up to the mood Postal had. Postal IV… is wep wop not sure how to react to it.
finally, i was getting the idea that Postal 4 was loved just because the 3 sucked ass
that isn't really true at all considering postal 2 has been added to after postal 3 with expansions better than the base game as well as brain damaged. 4 was just mediocre with 4 being the only real bad game. I'd say postal 2 is better than the original as while the first has a great mood postal 2 is one of the greatest satirical games ever made
@@plugshirt1762postal 2 and 1 are both equally fun although I had way more fun playing 1, but paradise lost is way better than both. Postal 3 is absolutely horrible and 4 isn't as bad as people say, I've had decent fun playing it the only issue being the crashes
@@d3ds3c25 oh yeah to clarify I mean postal 4 is the only bad game they’ve made not in general as postal 3 I pretend isnt even in the series. I wouldn’t say 4 is terrible by any means but it just feels like it’s perpetually the watered down version of postal 2 which makes it feel worse.
@@plugshirt1762 yeah I get what you're saying, the first time I played it I was like "wtf is this?" But then as I started cutting it some slack it was actually pretty fun
I've done some personal testing, and I've found (at least for me) that the video goes you play do effect how I think about things, but never to the extreme that the stereotype is, but there is something there. Might just be my ADHD idk
I feel like it effects you the most if you are already not quite right in the head. If anything, a person who ends up showing signs of instability probably should not play such games, and that may be a catalyst in their mind. But I know in others it is their outlet to keep themselves from also going postal. All in all is a pretty fucked dilemma to gave.
@@D_Abellus yes
7:05 don't be sorry, these things need to be heard.
Postal is gucked up but still nostalgic
the first two seconds just made me notice i'm pretty much a monster..
it sent chills down my spine dude why would you say that?!
Would you like to sign my petition?
Okay, I guess that sounds good
No way you freaking Pinko
*menancingly points at petition*
0:05 Stellaris players are sweating
Hear me out... postal 2 vr
Someone should make a first person (boomer shooter style) remake of postal 1
Technically Postal: Brain Damage is sorta that just that it's more in line with the tone that Postal 2 and later entries went with. Hatred with the First Person mod is also kinda similar but what you speak of hasn't been fully replicated.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames no I mean the entire postal 1 game in first person, same levels/maps, same art style, same weapons, same enemies, same sounds effects and voice lines, pretty much just postal 1 in first person.
That is what I meant: something like that doesn't exist as of right now.
@@Caleb-fv5fp Make it yourself, dweebazoid. The tools to make Doom WADs are out there.
@@Caleb-fv5fp they could probably remake it with 2 if a good enough mod team
3:12 literally ripped off the first fucking mission hahaha
Fact: if Postal got so much controversy is because the Columbine shooters played it
I'm pretty sure Doom was another game they played and that caused a bit of an uproar for that game as well.
Only Dylan maybe played, he had the box art in his room.
Also another fun fact, RWS changed the ending in redux because of Sandy Hook.
@@Guadalajara1937 That would've been a PR nightmare for RWS if they did decide to keep the original ending.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames it was an understandable choice.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames I wanted to mention postal mostly because Doom and Duke Nukem offer monsters as enemies while postal as a more sinister tone to join with the humans enemies that you kill
7:00 I mean you're not worng in the slightest. I complketely agree. The media feeds off of events like this wich I feel like inspires other such as the recent Highland Park sooter (not gonna give that asshole the recognition he wants). A song by Watsky titled 'Stick To Your Guns" explains this as well.
Hatred was in cross promoted? It was mocked by them.
I hope the RUclips algoritm will start to support you a bit more. Would be deserved 🙂
I like reduxös advanced raphics and characters but in some parts the map itself still looks exactly like in postal 1.
Automatic like for Cuphead music. 👍
Ive been interested in playing the original postal, not the redux. Is the original on steam? Because i see the redux and postal on steam..
The original is Free on Steam as of the time I'm looking at it, so go buck wild with the original.
@@LetsTalkAboutGames oh shit. Didnt know that! I personally dont care about the ending and get why they had to change it. I dont think they ever intended for it to cone across the way it did. Anyways good video!
@@Goofy-fd7cz they didn't have to change it they changed it because the original was shown as killing children is too far and something most people think is unthinkable but now a days where you can go on the news and find stuff like that they thought it wasn't as "far out there" so they changed it
@@caylobbailey5149 I think its sad. I dont mind the original
@@Goofy-fd7cz me neither i actually prefer the original ending cause i think it's just more impact full
Oh my god i killed a family of 5 because i played minecraft
The two dudes aren't the same tbh, I have a theory that PDude1 is his real father. As seen in Postal 4 he has an edgy personality compared to PDude2 who's more comedic and stupid
For all the things Redux did well, there were three major things that I disliked about it that I believe are an easy fix: A) The art style feels somewhat cartoonish and detached from the overall tone of the original game
B) The speed of the animations appears to be seemingly slower than it was in the original, perhaps it's just me, but it does take away from the seriousness of combat
C) For starters, I'm aware of why they changed the ending and the connotations behind it... But I truly believe the original ending was much more impactful and gave more meaning to the overall tone and story of the character
I only played Postal 1 and Never had those problems with the game, I learned to throw molotov Or use napalm in front of it. The same would go for redux if I had it
Let's Talk About Your Mom
Im so funny
Shut up
Hey, when I read the comment I did bust out laughing so you did get me.
hilarity
Actually, I'd rather not. Let's NOT talk about Postal.
Got it for The Nintendo Switch.
Postal 1 maybe is the final straw of postal. Postal 1 is the present while the other postal like postal 2 is he is sane. Until in the final postal 1 he turns crazy ig.
what were the yays i kept hearing
Postal 3? Idk what you're talking about bro
Could say the same about Corkscrew Rules.
i keep hearing an eeeEEE in your video
me having the genocide achievement in people playground :
Lol I forgot about the movie hobo with a shotgun
In video games i killed millions by now
amazing
sauce for the dnb songs you used in the background plssss
Thermian disclaimer.
Sucks that you needed a warning at the start for people purposely clicking on a video about postal lol
You completely overlooked the fact that Postal Dude in the first game and redux isn't the The Postal 2 Dude.. it's his daddy.
11:22 EEHHHH! :D
I thought you would talk about the war journals more In depth. Or mention how the postal dude was a gulf war or vietnam war vet due to his well use of weapons. And this Is more like a basic review not a full blown analysis. I also dont like how much scripted this video Is.
I would say he may be a vet of balkan war send back due to his mental health not being so good. If he was a viet veteran he would be around 40-50
The dude (at least from Postal 1) looks to be in his mid-late 20s, so that probably rules out that he served in Vietnam. I do like to think he served in the Gulf War since it does sort of fit into the same timeframe, and the actions of that war (as well as the existence of Gulf War syndrome that caused many health issues in soldiers that fought in the conflict) could partly explain why he went "postal"
Millions
I love the people that act like video games dont make kids do bad shit. When the warriors came out we were mf tearing shit up. Rocks thru windows stealing shit and breaking everything we could ✌️😂
Review the phone games pls the jave phone games
Hmm. Subbed
Its a good game
may 20the is my bd
Ohio
Voronezh
Detroit
@@Xplainn93 Alabama
Pee Pee Island
Not as good as the OG
postal redux is pc crap, the end.
So, Postal is literally just a mass shooter simulator.
No depth, no message, just edgy point n click.
And people have the audacity to get mad at media for branding the game as controversial...
It’s good stuff. 10/10 would rather shoot people in the virtual realm instead of the real world.
There is a strong message behind, read the diary entries, think a bit for yourself, if you played the game you'd know you don't even have to kill non hostile NPCs, the game is played through the protagonists "imagination", it's an unreliable version of the real events, he did commit a murder spree, but as the ending and many other things suggest it's not exactly how it went down, and as the diary entries suggest he might've been in the military or as the ending suggests he might've been possessed by a demon or "the player", and acted only as bad as the person controlling him wanted to, there's a lot to learn from this meta-massacre game, especially the first ending where you cannot harm any of the children and you realise you're going insane/it's all in your head, why does the player see a bunch of kids and instantly want to shoot them? I see you missed the point of this game entirely
Lowlife
You are postal 2 npc
@@countervolition True