Backing with a long-frame conventional body truck and a short drawbar, single-axle dolly is a challenge for sure. The dolly can get off line so quickly. A truck with tight steering capability helps. Given your experience with the trailer at the time of filming, I'd say you did well.
@@user-nw8vj5kl6w I don't see the connection between your video and this video beyond your video being about trucking. Still, thank you. I thought that the trailer in your video might have been a steer-axle type but it wasn't. Steer axle trailers require a different driving style. Instead of swing wide, drive straight, turn late like regular trailers the driver of a steer axle trailer stays close to the inside of the turn, drives straight, and turns late. Cheers!
First job I had I got a 4-axle short drawbar trailer and a 6x2 MAN TGX26 480 hook truck. Not a lot of reversing but then I had to drive single truck (21-pallet 4x2 Volvo FM330) in Gothenburg to deliver hospital supplies). I never reversed a trailer for 3 months and then the company asked if I was interested in driving a night route with dolly-trailer. Driving a 25.25 meter long truck+dolly-trailer, at night and only 18 years old while being rusty. It was hard but some nice Polish dudes helped me somewhat so I knew how far it was to the next trailer over on the other side. Now I'm 19 years old and drive a semi+semi trailer every day but friday, cuz then I drive a Scania G440 6x2 and a 4-axle trailer with short drawbar. It's almost easier to reverse with drawbar than with a semi. You don't get that awful front wall on your other side when reversing and turning.
@@tntfreddan3138 Thanks for sharing your experiences. Cool! My favourite rig is an 8x4 curtain-side Volvo/Scania box truck with steerable liftable tag axle and a two-axle dolly three axle curtain-side trailer with a liftable steerable tag axle. It's highly maneuverable in tight turn-around locations and the curtain sides make loading/unloading easy. The dual axle dolly is more resistant to getting off track as quickly as single axle dollies. Just my experience. Continued success to you. :)
I was pretty good with an artic, disappointing if I had to shunt. These drawbar trailers are much harder to master and I never got to practice. I used to watch the drawbar drivers reversing onto the lined bays at an old dairy I worked at as a new driver in the 90's, they could put the trailer there quickly and accurately. Impressive stuff.
Actually, soon as you get the hang of it, you don't wanna be driving anything else. So comfortable on the road due to elegant turn radius and, hauling swap body containers, it is the best option for the driver. Won't give mine up for a tandem, that's for sure...
what near-miss he wasent event close!, he still had 0,5 meters to the trailer, maybe i should record some of the thight spots i get into with my drawbar trailer, then we can talk about near-miss' some of the narrow spots, im close to 0,05 meters, also known as 5 cm, from last axel to fence, building or other obstacle i have to get around. and when things get thight, there is only one thing to do, SLOW DOWN and go out and check if you will clear the obstacle, and its better to go out and check 5 times to many, than 1 time to little.
There was no risk of tail-strike, drawbar trailers don't act that way. When turning, the tractor tail swing will pull the drawbar in a way so the trailer will keep on going straight round the corner. This trailer has no tail swing since the axles are in all the way to the back - with a conventional nordic drawbar trailer would risk a blind side tail swing strike if you do wide turns with them.
Daniel Drives I've just retired from European truck driving, I had an absolutely brilliant career & met some truly nice people. My only piece of advise when it comes to reversing is and remember this " Left is right, right is left, take your time and do it right "
Daniel Drives but in this case with an A frame Right is right & Left is left best advise is join a large distribution company and get in & get on, big D.C. Companies operate a Driving Scheme for which you sign a 2 year contract of retention Good Luck
Soy de cuba y he manejado camiones chinos con remolque mi papá manejaba uno quisaz es difícil al principio pero cuando aprendes bien se torna fácil solo cortes pequeños y maniobrar con calma incluso me gusta más que el semiremolque aunque no he tenido la oportunidad de manejar uno que sea mío .saludos
A camera mounted at the rear of the truck, looking at the front wheels of the trailer would help I think , ( used to reverse four wheel trailers, got to be aware of what the front wheels of the trailer are doing, with using only wing mirrors , you become "blind " for a short time, by that time the front bogey probably moved from the track you wanted) .
nah, it doesn’t help at all. You see only false image in the camera that the dolly is always straight, I know, my truck has camera but that only helps when coupling, while reversing you only look at the mirrors, but at night you just have to feel it cuz you see nothing in the mirrors :D
No camera. Use mirrors to see the position of the side wall of the drawbar trailer, the front wall, and the light marker on the far end of the trailer. When you can't see the light marker, but you want the trailer to go that way, be it right or left side in your mirror. Turn your steering wheel towards that problem. If you want the trailer to go left, turn left. To make it go right, turn right. To keep the trailer steady and not wander off, do minor adjustments, and drive forwards if you get a too big of a turn going - Because that will escalate. And watch for the front wall and side wall. When they cover the same % of the mirror from your perspective, thats when you know you have turned enough to left/right. When the code is broken, on how to do it. It's Just as easy, if not easier than reversing a semi. (which is just like reversing a car-trailer for... cars)
Need to take time to see the reaction of the trailer. Especcially when the A frame is connected quite near the back axle. When the A frame is connected say at 2 meters from the back axle, the effect comes quicker and more strong.
I have the same set up , but with hydraulic ramp door on the hanger, 25 meters long, which must fit underneath the ramp doors..sometimes tricky, when there's not enough space🙈
I'm going to assume that is a dog trailer, the Truck is 1 unit with an attached box and then the dolly attached to another trailer so it would almost be like reversing a D-double.
In some situations I actually think reversing with a dolly is easier than an arctic, I’ve started with dollys so that might also be why, only got the chance to drive a semi-trailer a couple of times, always found it pretty boring compared
Well, I'm not a keyboard trucker, buddy and this is how I'd do it on a very bad day. If you think he didn't do anything bad, then just look at how he turns around with that trailer - do you think it does any good for the tyres? Of course not. But as long as you're an employee somewhere, thus you do not have to pay the bills, upyou won't realize that. No doubt, he didn't bend anything, but he is also not a particularly skilled truck driver.
@@troymonk1902 the only one being any kind of warrior here is apparently you, bud. You're trying to outsmart everyone, without having any practical knowledge at all. Have fun
@@M-M-M-M haha how am i trying to out smart everyone?? Your the one saying this is how you'd do it on a very bad day 🤷♂️ iv pedaled more gear to place's you could only dream of sweetheart, rural transport in New Zealand you'd shit your pants.
@@troymonk1902 wow, a woolie jumper, I'm impressed you even know what a motor vehicle is. As for you trying to measure yourself, I won't even start, this message of yours just proves the point I've made in my previous comment. You're here to be the warrior you're so up against. :-)
I drive this truck and trailer combination everyday, reversing is a piece of cake for me. Especially when people look at me in a weird way trying to figure out how exactly i manage to reverse the thing.
@@herrrommel8666 And the Hermans have all greasy hands when they have to dock on a hänger. From pulling on the a frame or drawbar to put IT by hand on the dock
"Easier" is subjevtive. Lowering the 2nd axle will make the trailer turn less, because the two stiff axles are dragging. Because of this, the trailer will not run away (as in turning too much to recover / "jackknife") as easily. On the other hand, you need more movement from the truck to turn the trailer. I personally prefer reversing with the lift axle lifted if the weight on the trailer allows me to.
Was war da jetzt so besonders dran . Den Anhänger gerade an die Rampe zu fahren ! Ich fahre einen Gliederzug mit Durchladesystem da mache ich das täglich mehrfach . Bei einigen Kunden muß ich da teilweise 50 m rückwärts um zwei Kurven an die Rampe fahren . 🤔
That's not the way. Takes to much time and visibilty ain't ideal. If you have to do that at every stop, your days are getting to long, plus you can't see what is on the left back angle of the trailer.
Alfaset Oslo, great memories!!! Good job man, well done.
Backing with a long-frame conventional body truck and a short drawbar, single-axle dolly is a challenge for sure. The dolly can get off line so quickly. A truck with tight steering capability helps. Given your experience with the trailer at the time of filming, I'd say you did well.
ruclips.net/channel/UCkFdMvnl29miSd_5BJPH3xQ
@@user-nw8vj5kl6w I don't see the connection between your video and this video beyond your video being about trucking. Still, thank you. I thought that the trailer in your video might have been a steer-axle type but it wasn't. Steer axle trailers require a different driving style. Instead of swing wide, drive straight, turn late like regular trailers the driver of a steer axle trailer stays close to the inside of the turn, drives straight, and turns late. Cheers!
First job I had I got a 4-axle short drawbar trailer and a 6x2 MAN TGX26 480 hook truck. Not a lot of reversing but then I had to drive single truck (21-pallet 4x2 Volvo FM330) in Gothenburg to deliver hospital supplies). I never reversed a trailer for 3 months and then the company asked if I was interested in driving a night route with dolly-trailer. Driving a 25.25 meter long truck+dolly-trailer, at night and only 18 years old while being rusty. It was hard but some nice Polish dudes helped me somewhat so I knew how far it was to the next trailer over on the other side. Now I'm 19 years old and drive a semi+semi trailer every day but friday, cuz then I drive a Scania G440 6x2 and a 4-axle trailer with short drawbar. It's almost easier to reverse with drawbar than with a semi. You don't get that awful front wall on your other side when reversing and turning.
@@tntfreddan3138 Thanks for sharing your experiences. Cool! My favourite rig is an 8x4 curtain-side Volvo/Scania box truck with steerable liftable tag axle and a two-axle dolly three axle curtain-side trailer with a liftable steerable tag axle. It's highly maneuverable in tight turn-around locations and the curtain sides make loading/unloading easy. The dual axle dolly is more resistant to getting off track as quickly as single axle dollies. Just my experience. Continued success to you. :)
Like it! Used to do these as well. Nowadays tractor trailers are much more common.
I was pretty good with an artic, disappointing if I had to shunt.
These drawbar trailers are much harder to master and I never got to practice.
I used to watch the drawbar drivers reversing onto the lined bays at an old dairy I worked at as a new driver in the 90's, they could put the trailer there quickly and accurately. Impressive stuff.
Very nicely done!!!
By far the most difficult trailer to park. It fucks with your brain.
is that yoke the dolly on the end of it it is
Молодец!Не так легко с таким прицепом.
Ciao ragazzo 👦 se è poco tempo che guidi un'autotreno allora sei stato bravino...... 💪 💪
Praise to god you are a good driver
Any person that can reverse a dolly with trailer attached needs a damn medal or something .... it ain't as easy as it looks folks
In Sweden you have to reverse with a ridgid truck and dolly trailer at the examination, semi is not approved.
That's not correct. I did my driving test with "semi"-trailer. I got my CE-license that way, yet i'm allowed to drive any truck+trailer combination.
@@JoachimGabrielsson You're right. Must have changed since I got my license.
@@lokis7230 The same in Denmark. We even still use manual gear, but I don't know if that's a requirement by law.
Actually, soon as you get the hang of it, you don't wanna be driving anything else. So comfortable on the road due to elegant turn radius and, hauling swap body containers, it is the best option for the driver. Won't give mine up for a tandem, that's for sure...
A frame is difficult. It was pretty good 👍🏻
One hell of a basketball training
Thanks, it was fun to watch (except the near-miss a tail-strike at 1:01)
what near-miss he wasent event close!, he still had 0,5 meters to the trailer, maybe i should record some of the thight spots i get into with my drawbar trailer, then we can talk about near-miss' some of the narrow spots, im close to 0,05 meters, also known as 5 cm, from last axel to fence, building or other obstacle i have to get around.
and when things get thight, there is only one thing to do, SLOW DOWN and go out and check if you will clear the obstacle, and its better to go out and check 5 times to many, than 1 time to little.
There was no risk of tail-strike, drawbar trailers don't act that way.
When turning, the tractor tail swing will pull the drawbar in a way so the trailer will keep on going straight round the corner. This trailer has no tail swing since the axles are in all the way to the back - with a conventional nordic drawbar trailer would risk a blind side tail swing strike if you do wide turns with them.
ME GUSTO MUCHO EL VIDEO DE L TRAILER
i'm going to be a truck driver but reversing with a dolly looks so damn hard
Ying Yang Automotive suppose that could work yes haha thank you :-) But first i have to get hold of a minature truck an trailer lol ;-)
Daniel Drives I've just retired from European truck driving, I had an absolutely brilliant career & met some truly nice people. My only piece of advise when it comes to reversing is and remember this " Left is right, right is left, take your time and do it right "
Thank you for the advice, should be easy to remember that. will go to a very good School wich will teach me how to drive a truck very good
Daniel Drives but in this case with an A frame Right is right & Left is left best advise is join a large distribution company and get in & get on, big D.C. Companies operate a Driving Scheme for which you sign a 2 year contract of retention Good Luck
It`s very easy
I'll tell you the truth that I wouldn't want to drive this, I take my hat off to whoever drives it 👍
One hit wonder is so satisfying.
Soy de cuba y he manejado camiones chinos con remolque mi papá manejaba uno quisaz es difícil al principio pero cuando aprendes bien se torna fácil solo cortes pequeños y maniobrar con calma incluso me gusta más que el semiremolque aunque no he tenido la oportunidad de manejar uno que sea mío .saludos
Pretty good...
A camera mounted at the rear of the truck, looking at the front wheels of the trailer would help I think , ( used to reverse four wheel trailers, got to be aware of what the front wheels of the trailer are doing, with using only wing mirrors , you become "blind " for a short time, by that time the front bogey probably moved from the track you wanted) .
nah, it doesn’t help at all. You see only false image in the camera that the dolly is always straight, I know, my truck has camera but that only helps when coupling, while reversing you only look at the mirrors, but at night you just have to feel it cuz you see nothing in the mirrors :D
No camera. Use mirrors to see the position of the side wall of the drawbar trailer, the front wall, and the light marker on the far end of the trailer. When you can't see the light marker, but you want the trailer to go that way, be it right or left side in your mirror. Turn your steering wheel towards that problem. If you want the trailer to go left, turn left. To make it go right, turn right.
To keep the trailer steady and not wander off, do minor adjustments, and drive forwards if you get a too big of a turn going - Because that will escalate. And watch for the front wall and side wall. When they cover the same % of the mirror from your perspective, thats when you know you have turned enough to left/right.
When the code is broken, on how to do it. It's Just as easy, if not easier than reversing a semi. (which is just like reversing a car-trailer for... cars)
over steering makes it a lot more difficult. new driver. we all had to learn.
where did he over steer?
@@darkfangulas he kept on pulling forward bc he over steered.
Small adjustments.
@@darkfangulas He made a arse of it
Need to take time to see the reaction of the trailer. Especcially when the A frame is connected quite near the back axle. When the A frame is connected say at 2 meters from the back axle, the effect comes quicker and more strong.
Nice vidio bro
Excellent video 🤚
Buenazo compañero algunas pautas para hacerlo igua que tu. Gracias
I have the same set up , but with hydraulic ramp door on the hanger, 25 meters long, which must fit underneath the ramp doors..sometimes tricky, when there's not enough space🙈
Jezdzisz jak po polu rolnym:-)
Talk about a pro.
Is that Alnabru in Oslo ?
Im starting my education in 4 days, i cant wait but reversing seems like its going to take a while to get the hang of :P
Awesome! You will get the hang on that pretty fast, also good luck with C/CE test :)
Thanks!
Le camion remorque traditionnelle le top
Can I please get your permission to use part of this video for my e-learning course on delivery?
Is this Rigid truck with extra trailer?
В какой стране?
Nice 👍👍
Well done
I'm going to assume that is a dog trailer, the Truck is 1 unit with an attached box and then the dolly attached to another trailer so it would almost be like reversing a D-double.
Almost correct yes, there's no dolly here but it's called an wagon. It's all one unit but the same principle as dolly + trailer.
Salut. De ce nu mai faci vloguri. Esti ok ???
Rigid dolly, is it? Never had any kind of this in my Country.
Wonder if I can steer it well. Anyway, have a good one.
@BOYFROMOZ
Mostly are semi trailer.
We got a few B-double.
Others is Rigid up to 8x4 (tag steer)
That shit hard
that looks hard
Hey empty terminal gates use them!!! GJ anyways
ruclips.net/channel/UCkFdMvnl29miSd_5BJPH3xQ
Its very hard setup, but in this case you have lot of space to do maneuvering.
Very easy...............
Наглядное пособие для тех кто пересел с седельной сцепки на более геморойную.
In some situations I actually think reversing with a dolly is easier than an arctic, I’ve started with dollys so that might also be why, only got the chance to drive a semi-trailer a couple of times, always found it pretty boring compared
I've watched for 3 minutes and I'm wondering where the reversing's at?
What is ore common in Europe...Semi Trailer/Tractor, or truck/Trailer? thanks
Semi trailer + Tractor is the most common in Europe, but in Scandinavia Truck + Wagon is also very common compared to the rest of Europe
Training? Training? That's enough! Want to break a drawbar trailer, then tell me! It works very fast for me, so I rank.
nic lazjega
Задние мост и передний мост прицепа должны находиться в одной линии
OMG that was your first time I hope
Nob
That’s what she said
This is harder then driving a B (double 2 trailers) that trailers kicks out sooooo fast..
ماشاء لله سياراتهم روعه وخاصتا القاطره والمقطوره .. انا عندي تريله
Rookie
Där jobbade jag som chaufför 1995-1998 för tollpost 😁😁
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
No shortage of keyboard truckers here 😂😂, took him awhile atleast he didn't bend anything keep at it fella ! Practice makes perfect
Well, I'm not a keyboard trucker, buddy and this is how I'd do it on a very bad day.
If you think he didn't do anything bad, then just look at how he turns around with that trailer - do you think it does any good for the tyres? Of course not. But as long as you're an employee somewhere, thus you do not have to pay the bills, upyou won't realize that. No doubt, he didn't bend anything, but he is also not a particularly skilled truck driver.
@@M-M-M-M good on you ya hero, not keyboard trucker just a keyboard warrior jog on. Everyones gotta start somewhere we're not all perfect like you 😂😂
@@troymonk1902 the only one being any kind of warrior here is apparently you, bud. You're trying to outsmart everyone, without having any practical knowledge at all. Have fun
@@M-M-M-M haha how am i trying to out smart everyone?? Your the one saying this is how you'd do it on a very bad day 🤷♂️ iv pedaled more gear to place's you could only dream of sweetheart, rural transport in New Zealand you'd shit your pants.
@@troymonk1902 wow, a woolie jumper, I'm impressed you even know what a motor vehicle is. As for you trying to measure yourself, I won't even start, this message of yours just proves the point I've made in my previous comment. You're here to be the warrior you're so up against. :-)
this place is the Alnabruterminal in Oslo, Norway
truck-kun senpai
I think he is self beginer
♥️♥️
Try to look at your “pivet points” on your trailer, stay within those points then your all good.
I drive this truck and trailer combination everyday, reversing is a piece of cake for me. Especially when people look at me in a weird way trying to figure out how exactly i manage to reverse the thing.
Legend
Not an easy task, but the job was done nonetheless
I have a driving license but I would definitely shit myself if I had to reverse this
Never seen one with front wheel steer (trailer)
Its called a A frame takes time to learn to reverse them
Suldal Transport?
nei, Posten
Suldal eller noe andre , spill ingen role ! norsk sjåfør som har hele terminal for seg alene og trenger så mye tid !!!! TYPISK NORSK
@@yannickkcinnay9507 var en lørdag, da har man hele terminalen for seg selv hahaha
I drove a tractor and a double articulated hay trailer on a farm once, Couldn't revers the thing at all.
cos pommies cant drive
@@herrrommel8666 And the Hermans have all greasy hands when they have to dock on a hänger. From pulling on the a frame or drawbar to put IT by hand on the dock
Västberga!? I work also in bring 🤣
Nope, oslo
what is Bring?
@@neckarsulme distribution company, much like schenker, dhl and so on.
@@carlmagnusson4951 Oh for sure, thank you for the info! Keep on trucking
What graphics mod did you install
I've got dizzy from all this turning
👍
Principiante
Bardzo ciekawe😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Я то думал с первого раза поставить прицеп. Опыта мало.
تعالم على سوريا وشوفم السيارات والشوفيرية بعد الشوفير السوري لاحدة يرجع مقطورة
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lowering that 3rd axle on the trailer would have made it easier.
Yup, figured that out now that i have couple thousand hours with the trailer
Pompidouch ok
"Easier" is subjevtive. Lowering the 2nd axle will make the trailer turn less, because the two stiff axles are dragging. Because of this, the trailer will not run away (as in turning too much to recover / "jackknife") as easily. On the other hand, you need more movement from the truck to turn the trailer.
I personally prefer reversing with the lift axle lifted if the weight on the trailer allows me to.
😍😍🥰🥰
Na ja, das rückwärts fahren gehen wir noch ein bisschen ,,ÜBEN"❗
Was war da jetzt so besonders dran . Den Anhänger gerade an die Rampe zu fahren ! Ich fahre einen Gliederzug mit Durchladesystem da mache ich das täglich mehrfach . Bei einigen Kunden muß ich da teilweise 50 m rückwärts um zwei Kurven an die Rampe fahren . 🤔
Only VOLVO forever.
Can you drive this you can drive everything
Myślałem ze tylko ja mam problem na kursie...
219k viewers Nani?
he did it mutch harder then he had to ,, looks difucult ,, but no ,, if you do it right it is easy ,,, new beginner
ruclips.net/channel/UCkFdMvnl29miSd_5BJPH3xQ
Tom he made a complete arse of it must have been his first time
В чем прикол?
When the light turns red it means you have docked sorry im a newbie
The light turns red when the truck or trailer is being loaded or unloaded.
Почему эти прицепы не штопорят?
Павел Егоров чтобы полуресору не выломать😎
@@user-wh4kf8zt7m не понял?! Какую?
@@user-wh4kf8zt7m ролурессору он не вывернет, а вот дышло на груженном прицепе завернет легко!
Наверное аффтор хотел выебнуться и показать мастерство парковки...
Was that his first time trying that how many chances did he want probably had to refuel after that
G'day! Can you write a model of your trailer?
We use HFR trailers
@@Pompidouchtrucking Thank you very much
Over the Top
L'autotreno difficile manovrarlo 😓
Vero, io sono un camionista e ti assicuro che bisogna davvero essere molto bravi.
Where's the people?
this was filmed on a saturday
Try this at night
alfaset, Oslo
drop the trailer and re connect to the front of the truck then push the traler into place
That's not the way. Takes to much time and visibilty ain't ideal. If you have to do that at every stop, your days are getting to long, plus you can't see what is on the left back angle of the trailer.
wow...😅
If i made this movie, it would not be 8 minutes but 85 minutes...
katastrofffffffe
桜井日奈子