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Here's an interesting one, in that it's a really solid and catchy song that I think may have been *intentionally* lyrically off-putting: "Candyskin" by the Fire Engines, a notoriously prickly and intense Scottish dance-punk band who dropped this string-drenched singalong tune with a lyrical conceit less romantic than cheekily depraved… which fits, given that their last big song was "Get Up and Use Me", which definitely has some weird masochistic overtones. I'd call it the "Suck My Kiss" of the UK post-punk movement-and there are a few interesting parallels-save for the fact that "Candyskin" mostly makes sense and seems to be skeevy on purpose.
@@kirkhullinger1934 The thing about "Every Breath You Take" is, it was inspired by Sting being stalked by the British paparazzi after he remarried following an ugly divorce. It's very consciously creepy and unromantic and not really a love song at all.
They were never a serious band though. They were just a bunch of entitled college kids who said, f it, let's make a band. I do believe they only intended that one album, and only have that one album. On a whole, it's not good, but not horrible either.
@@davidl570 I stand corrected, they ended up having a few albums. Like I said, personally I didn't hate that album, but it most certainly is not for everyone, and I agree, Breakfast at Tiffany's was just, dumb. I was the right age to enjoy it when it came out, but now I wonder wtf I was thinking lol.
At least Bad Girlfriend is kinda fun (guilty pleasure). If ypu want something really shitty from Theory to make you groan, check out the snoozefests Love Is Hell and Easy To Love You 😪
Yeah. As much as we clown on Theory of a Deadman for it's songwriting, Bad Girlfriend is at least catchy and melodic. As opposed to the "experimental" work of Wake Up Call or Say Nothing. The former being ironic, while the latter sums up what everyone wants to tell Theory in a nutshell.
I'm not a native English speaker, but even with my approximative English back then, I kinda knew that the lyrics of Suck My Kiss were errrr... dubious. As you've said, the title was a dead give away. As a French Canadian, I deeply apologize for Simple Plan.
and, years after, they were in france (style, we are a great world wide band , be happy, we are with you now). as french, i don't accept your apology!!!
As a Gen Z metalhead who got into Metal with Hair Metal, there many amazing power ballads that truly capture the spirit and passion of love. *These are the exceptions*
This list is great! I worked in a record store from 1988 to 1991 and at the peak of hair metal we compiled a list of the worst power ballads. We declared Beth and Love Hurts (our manager really hated that song) as "legacy." My pick was Bad For Each Other by Shark Island. Lyrics were along the line of that Simple Plan song listed. Keep up the good work!
10. Poison is one of my guilty pleasures, but "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" just makes me cringe I'd rather listen to their uptempo stuff. 9. Not really a bad song, but this song is not representative of Extreme. I'd rather hear them rock. 8. RHCP doing a love song? Yeah... no. 7. If there's a single song that killed glam metal, this is probably it. It's kind of a fun listen, but don't think too hard about it. 6. Because "The Final Countdown" wasn't lame enough. BTW, I knew a girl named Carrie at the church I attended as a teen. I thought she was annoying - but not as much as this song was. 5. This is after I stopped giving a shit about current music. But looking at the lyrics you posted, I can't loathe this song enough. 4. Again, after I stopped giving a shit about current music. And the song's protagonist sounds like he deserves a good ass-beating. 3. This is a love song??? REALLY???!!!! I'd probably get divorced if I wrote a song like this for my wife. 2. John Mayer needs to just shut up and play his damn guitar. 1. Hey, 17 is the age of consent in some jurisdictions (not mine, for the record)!
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that "Seventeen" by Winger got as popular as it did. After all, people thought "Every Breath You Take" by the Police was a love song...
Agree. Back when this song came out I was dating a girl who loved it. I ended up breaking it off with her a couple of months later when I found out she was screwing around. I guess I shoulda saw it coming.
I will always love More Than Words. Those harmonies are amazing, especially that minor second tension to perfect fifth resolution at the end of the second chorus. It’s a damn good song and I don’t care what anyone else says.
I agree, beautiful harmonies. I don't dislike it at all. I remember seeing Extreme live in London back in the 90s. They started doing MTW, and the fans singing drowned Gary Cherone out. In the end, they stopped playing and let us sing it to them.
I grew up in the 80's and was in Highschool in the early 90's. I loved a lot of these songs but you had me cracking up. In my defense, I was a teenager. The eighties were a party but then came grunge and reality! Great job. lol
the second I heard john mayer I fell out of my chair laughing my ass off! Thank you Luke this list is great and these songs all belong here but that wonderland song is brain cancer for me so hearing other people rip on it will always make me smile 😂
As someone who is a fan of Simple Plan, songs like "Perfectly Perfect" are the reason why I feel a tad embarrassed to admit I like them. It also makes entirely too much sense that the guy from the Plain White Tees co-wrote it. I hope they never work with him again.
I can't really argue with your list, it's pretty accurate. I never could stand "More Than Words" by Extreme and still can't. I would've found room to throw in the god awful song "High Enough" by Damn Yankees👎
Brett Michael's left with his 80s hair?....more like left with his very very obvious wig. Ever notice how you literally never see him without either a bandana or a hat? Plus that wig is waaaay too thick and lush for the hair of a man of his age.
I wouldn't consider Cherry Pie a love song by any means. When I think a love song, I think Every Rose Has Its Thorn. Cherry Pie is just a sex song, it's the 90s version of Bad Girlfriend, Animals, or Perfectly Perfect.
Me: Oh, Luke's new Top 10 Worst Love Songs came out, sure it won't be too controver- *Sees number 9* Oh. Well, it can't possibly get any mo- *Sees number 8* *WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF LUKE, WHYYY???!!!*
I’m kinda surprised Christine Sixteen by KISS wasn’t on this list... that song really creeps me out tbh especially Gene Simmons singing some of those words 😬
Also I’m addition to the #1 on this list another creepy/gross Rock/Metal song is “All in the name of” by Motley Crue. The verse goes: “She’s only 15, she’s the reason that I can’t sleep.” …🤢🤮
John Mayer is the lead guitar player for Dead and Company. So Mr. Fathers be good to your daughters too now solos and sings tunes originally by Jerry Garcia. Also, age of consent laws vary by state (17 is the legal age in Illinois which is where I'm from for example). That fact doesn't make Winger less creepy or most of their songs from that era less cheesy and lame though.
Most of these I welcome to anyone's shit-list. I like "Carrie" though. Europe had a couple of harder, faster albums before The Final Countdown. The Final Countdown and the follow-up Out of this World do sound very dated for sure. Never thought the lyrics were particularly good or bad, but wondered how good Joey Tempest's English was. Europe did distinguish themselves from a lot of the other hair metal bands though, they had their own hair metal sound. I wouldn't say they're my "guilty pleasure", I think they're better than most hair metal, along with Def Leppard. Speaking of Def Leppard any of the love songs from Adrenalize or X can go to any shit-list for all I care.
Sweet Cherry Pie was the song that made my father in his glam metal days. (Early 20's.) Want to get a shower and pray if he had a daughter would never know of this song.
Christine 16 from Kiss is a creepy too. As a Canadian who listen a lot of metal and rock from Europe (the continent, not the band), you comfort me in my choice.
@@18FrozenAngels I guess he gave them a pass since they were a lot younger when they wrote it. Wasn’t that on their first album? I always imagined it as a cute song for a cartoon for like, 7 year olds.
I went to a wedding where the couple danced to hinder for there first dance. I turned to my wife and asked out loud if they had ever listened to the lyrics. Needless to say the were divorced in under 2 years.
@@feartheoutlaw293 Not "anything '80s," by any means. I don't even agree with most of Luke's tastes and I recognise that. Also all of those bands are plagued with wretched songwriting and questionable performances. 5FDP are probably the most unlistenable, frankly, but even outside of their music Ivan Moody is a wacko anti-masker and generally unpleasant human being so fuck them in general.
That's hilarious. Sounds like something my friend Loren and his wife would have done at their wedding. He is IN LOVE with Creed, he goes to see them every time they come. They're his favorite band ever. I'm pretty sure he is smart enough to not make a song about cheating his wedding song though haha
@@jevinday yeah, my buddy loves Nickelback and it is no surprise or mystery to him that they are universally hated and are not good music writers. He doesn't care and loves them but.... I love bringing it up when we are out with new people. I've seen the best faces and reactions when people hear this about this music choice.
That Warrant song left a bad taste in my mouth, especially knowing where it brought Jani Lane to. He's much more than "that Cherry Pie guy" and no one hates that song (that was clearly made to cater to the then-zeitgeist) more than Jani himself. It gave him a good amount of money and fame, but also took more than he ever get. R.I.P.
Agreed. Uncle Tom's Cabin is one of my favorite songs ever. I've always felt like that *should've* been the big hit and it's heart wrenching knowing that if that had been the big hit instead of Cherry Pie, Jani might still be with us today. 😢
@@mrcnub There a couple of interviews out there where Jani explained that he DIDN'T hate the SONG itself. He hated the fact that out of all the much better songs he wrote that it's the one most remembered by everyone. He actually called it a fun song and he was glad people liked it, he was just so disappointed that it overshadowed everything else.
Zeitgeist...check out the big brain on Brett! Might I...I have a bite of that tasty Big Kahuna burger? If you wear tight leather, sport boohoo hair and sing about cherry pie...well you might as well fight the cannibal pedophiles along with Pubio and DeSatan. Got your Scamtera tix?
There's definitely something odd about guys in their 40s writing songs for teenagers. Shouldn't artists grow and mature as they age in terms of their material?
If you really think about it, John Mayer was to mid 2000s high school girls what Jesse McCartney was to mid 2000s middle school girls, not because they had similar styles, because they obviously don’t, but because they had the same appeal
@@knightwing5169 Doesn't mean he had to record it. I wouldn't want to record or publish anything that I wrote when I was middle or high school age. He shouldn't have either. Especially not that song.
@@monstermikeheinrichs Makes sense, but there's a couple of exceptions that I'm glad saw the light of day: Greg Lake wrote Lucky Man at age 14 and Paul McCartney wrote When I'm 64 at age 12.
My dad used to be in a Jimmy Buffet cover band, and they would do “Why Don’t We Get Drunk”. One time, his mom was visiting and went to see him perform. The band was considering doing the song, but my dad was hesitant since his mom was there. My grandmother then said very loudly in front of everyone that it was my grandfather’s favorite song. They played it. God bless you, Grandma!
Seeing Hinder, I'm reminded of why I'm grateful that, in all of my years playing bass in various bands, I was never part of an act where the lead singer had bras hanging off of the mic stand.
I was Shocked that "Bed of Roses" didn't make this list. Something about Jon Bon telling his wife that he's sleeping with all these girls on the road but he really only loves her, gets me every time.
Well he loves his wife but is having sex with various women on the road! There is very little connection between sex and love, you can have sex with someone and have no feelings for the one way or another and on the other side you can love someone that you never have sex with! TL;DR Songs about sex are NOT love songs!
Much as I hate Bon Jovi (and that awful song), I must give credit to Jon for staying faithfully and happily married to the same wife for 30-some years.
I am VERY HAPPY that Seventeen by Winger was at least on this let, let alone number 1. I am from that generation of fandom and I thought it was gross at the time.
When I first heard the song "Carrie" I thought of the classic horror movie starring Sissy Spacek, which was based on an early novel by Stephen King. Talk about a misfire!
I remember once my dad told me, unprompted, when he was a teen in the 80's he thought Poison were posers. I think about it every time Poison is brought up lmao
@@ConvincingPeople I don't think my dad initially liked hair metal. He was more into stuff like Iron Maiden as a teen. I think he warmed up to Poison as he got older but he doesn't love them.
I have bad memories with Poison one of my neighbours used to blast the crap out of Unskinny Bop and I hated it so much along with some Kid Rock thrown in 🙃 so yeah I think poison are one of the worst bands of the 80s and Brett Michaels is one of the worst singers I’ve ever heard!
"More than words" was my sisters wedding song, 20 years ago. To be fair, English is not our first language, so we probably just heard "love you more than words" and collectively thought awww. And they are still together so, actions were shown?
Songs that become a couple's "our song" - as in, "they're playing our song" - are as individual as those couples. I've been to weddings where "Hallelujah" (the Leonard Cohen song) was the wedding song, or "Annie's Song" by John Denver. If that's the song they associate with their love, I'm not going to leap down their throats for it. Unless it's "Every Breath You Take". Come on, folks, Sting himself called that one a stalker anthem.
I mean the song’s about how love is more than just saying “I love you” and you actually need to show your s/o that you love them with your actions. If they got married I’m willing to bet that the two of them did that quite a bit.
I've never actually thought about the lyrics to More Than Words. When I see the video, I can't stop staring at Nuno and I lose the whole run of myself. He's just so gottdamn gaw-jus. I get what you're doing here and you are absolutely correct. They lyrics and messages are icky. I'm an older Gen X person and I despise Winger. I saw them in concert once and Kip went behind the drum kit and arranged his shirt so it looked as if it just fell open that way. I know it's petty, but that stays with me. Just so cringeworthy. I hated their show. We were there to see Kiss.
As a lady, I am not upset at all with the John Mayer entry. I genuinely think this song is disgusting, and every time I hear the intro to that song I audibly screech "EEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!" So, I'm glad there are other humans out there that agree with me!
Gonna cause some eyerolls with this, but "Taking one for the team" by Simple Plan is not the worst album ever. Call it guilty pleasure all you want. That being said, f*ck "Perfectly Perfect". Awful song.
I disagree, the first 2 SP albums are genuine guilty pleasures (I mean as childish as it is, the melody for a song like Shut Up! slaps, it’s Musical Junk food at its finest imo), Taking One For The Team is just a worse version of those records, with less catchy and memorable hooks and melodies and somehow even more insipid lyrics (although I do agree with you that Farewell is a good song)
I actually agree. Taking One For The Team is either my 2nd or 3rd fav Simple Plan album. Tracks like Opinion Overload, Farewell, Nostalgic, I Refuse (and hell, even I Don't Wanna Be Sad to an extent) were pretty catchy and innocently fun tracks.
@@davchr214 thank you! I actually seriously outgrew their first two albums, but the last three actually had quite fun moments. Objectively bad yes, but hell, "Farewell" and "Nostalgic" are probably my favorites from them and I will even defend over-the-top childish moments like "Kiss me like nobody's watching", "You Suck At Love" and "Anywhere else but here" from the previous album. It's not like 30-year-olds cannot relate to those simple feelings at times. And in case you didn't know, their previous band "Reset" actually played some genuinely decent pop punk in the 90s. They were genuine teenagers at that time. Pierre wrote a rebellious adolescent pop punk song like "Let Me Go" when he was actually a teenager and then followed that up with "I'm Just A Kid" in his 20s, that's some HARDCORE selling out there ;-)
@@DucciVinci I’m in full agreement! Their first two albums are my least favs and their last three I like quite a bit more. Get Your Heart On! is my favorite of them and tracks like Can’t Keep My Hands Off You, You Suck At Love, Summer Paradise, This Song Saved My Life and several others I actually enjoy unironically. As for the TOTTT tracks, I also think “Kiss Me Like Nobody’s Watching” is a fine and fun enough song.
"I'm sorry I can't be perfect but you are perfectly perfect to me" My brain combined Perfect with Perfectly Perfect and created an even cheesier Simple Plan lyric
Things that distracted me from Luke's voice in this video: - Bret Michaels' very awkward downpicking on that acoustic 12-string that's probably not even plugged in - The bras on Austin Winkler's mic stand - The fact that Simple Plan are still together, still making music that's obviously aimed at middle schoolers, while in their 40's - "Seventeen" by Winger is listed higher than "Would ?" by AIC on a list of the best hard rock songs
My family are family friends of Kip Winger (My dad's best friend's wife was Winger's wardrobe manager at the time, so I met him a lot when I was little in the late 80's)...and even THEY knew it was messed up ...especially the "She's a Magic Mountain" part....like....duuuuuude. Love ya, Kip...but my mom even joked with him how fucking creepy it was.
The Winger boys were almost 30 when they wrote Seventeen. These are some of the lyrics. : I'm only seventeen (seventeen) But I'll show you love like you've never seen She's only seventeen (seventeen) Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me... HOW DO PEOPLE NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS??!!
@@vinyllpreviews9462 Yeah, I know. I usually mention that Beatles song too. I just didn't this time because the video was about Winger. The song may have been written to their fans, but that doesn't change the fact that the lyrics are telling those teenage fans that they are old enough for the band, and it seems this entire time, very few people have had a problem with it.
I have always felt "Dirty, rotten, filthy, Stinky" at the beginning of Cherry Pie was a nod to their first album "Dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking Rich" makes more sense to me than trash talking your girl before you talk about "Swinging all night long"
I always thought Body is a Wonderland was super creepy! This one, and the John Mayer song about how fathers should be good to their daughters because daughters become lovers and then mothers, etc. Ew.
John Mayer wrote Daughters about Jennifer Aniston's mom because he felt at the time like she fucked her up. So he's basically saying treat your kids right because if you don't they'll probably grow up to be an emotionally unavailable mess. Not that weird.
I spent a bit of time listening to kiddie punk like Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Blink, etc. when I got brainwashed by the Kerrang TV channel in the 00s. Then I got better.
I feeling really embarrassed about having "Lips of an Angel" and "Bad Girlfriend" on my phone right now... To be fair, I never imagined Bad Girlfriend to possibly be a love song. And I saw Lips of an Angel as a regretful, one-that-got-away type song rather than about wanting to cheat (I guess we never really moved on). I don't love the songs, but I do still enjoy them.
10:47 - They have another song on their Self Titled album, called "I Can Wait Forever". It would fit perfect in this list. It's an 80's metal song... released in 2008. 12:41 - When I first saw them I thought they were a parody band like Steel Panther. 16:20 - I believe he either wrote the song WHEN he was 14 and having sex, or ABOUT being 14 and having sex. Still creepy either way.
I don't think Anthony Kiedis knows what a banshee actually is. He wants a woman to bang him while she's very loudly mourning a recently deceased family member of his? That's an oddly specific kink you have, Blackie, Jr. A lot of songwriters just sing random gibberish while they're trying to figure out the best riff, melody or chord progression for a song, then work on the lyrics when they have the musical side nailed down. "Yesterday" is the most famous example, Paul McCartney used "scrambled eggs - oh, how I love your legs" as lyrics while he wrote the music. I'd give Kiedis the benefit of the doubt along those lines, but he doesn't write any of the music for his band, as far as I know. He just writes lyrics, so there is no excuse for him to pump out a lot of the nonsense he has for decades now. He is the reason I never became an RHCP fan, although I like some of their music.
I occasionally see The Final Countdown show up on Worst Songs Ever lists and I've never understood that because Carrie is *SO MUCH WORSE*. The Final Countdown rules, for the record, eff the haters.
@@mrcnub Agreed, it's such a fun song. So glad the 40-song, 3-disc "Rocking the 80s" CD compilation my parents gave me when I was younger has that and "Cherokee" as its Europe representation, and not "Carrie".
Those VH1 lists were early clickbait. VH1 also included Cherry Pie and Seventeen on their Awesomely Bad lists, so they don't even know if they actually think those songs are good. They just know they were popular. 🙄
Ill give Europe some props here!🤘👍😃 Over the last few years their albums have been legit, hard rock in the vein of Zeppelin and Deep Purple. Might be not everyones taste here, but the (brilliant!) cheese and pomp of the 80s hayday doesnt exist in their music now and hazznt for ages. I happened to see them live a couple of years back and thought they were great. "Walk the Earth", their last album was decent heavy rock. No Carrie in sight!😊 Enjoyed this list and commentary.
I will not defend the song Cherry Pie for obvious reasons. However, I will forgive the band for the song, beings that they were forced to write a double entendre sex song like Aerosmith's Love In An Elevator, practically overnight. So what would have been an arguably iconic album Uncle Tom's Cabin, has now become a novelty sidenote and a cherry demon Jani Lane (God Bless His Soul) just couldn't shake...
I enjoy a lot of the songs on this list. But i`m an adult, so i won`t scream and cry and let it all out (sorry. Had to.). Having said that. WHO THE F*CK GAVE THE GUY FROM HINDER A MICROPHONE? Sounds like he`s recording in the bathroom while constipated.
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Every breath you take
@@kirkhullinger1934 oh yeah, that one is fucking creepy
Stacy's Mom. I hate that song with every cell of my body.
Here's an interesting one, in that it's a really solid and catchy song that I think may have been *intentionally* lyrically off-putting: "Candyskin" by the Fire Engines, a notoriously prickly and intense Scottish dance-punk band who dropped this string-drenched singalong tune with a lyrical conceit less romantic than cheekily depraved… which fits, given that their last big song was "Get Up and Use Me", which definitely has some weird masochistic overtones. I'd call it the "Suck My Kiss" of the UK post-punk movement-and there are a few interesting parallels-save for the fact that "Candyskin" mostly makes sense and seems to be skeevy on purpose.
@@kirkhullinger1934 The thing about "Every Breath You Take" is, it was inspired by Sting being stalked by the British paparazzi after he remarried following an ugly divorce. It's very consciously creepy and unromantic and not really a love song at all.
Worst love song ever? "Breakfast at Tiffany's." "We should stay together because there is this movie we both kinda like."
One of the worst band names ever too! No surprise that song was their only hit.
They were never a serious band though. They were just a bunch of entitled college kids who said, f it, let's make a band. I do believe they only intended that one album, and only have that one album. On a whole, it's not good, but not horrible either.
@@caseysivard4070 I'm open minded, so if the album as a whole was a lot better than Breakfast (which I CAN'T STAND), maybe I'll give it a listen.
Lol, yep
@@davidl570 I stand corrected, they ended up having a few albums. Like I said, personally I didn't hate that album, but it most certainly is not for everyone, and I agree, Breakfast at Tiffany's was just, dumb. I was the right age to enjoy it when it came out, but now I wonder wtf I was thinking lol.
I see Theory in the thumbnail and I’m scared
SHE’S A BAD BAD GIRLFRIEND! (gross)
I remember thinking that was coolest song when I was in highschool. That and Porn Star Dancing.
she likes to shake her AAAAAASSSSSSS
That song and porn star dancing are my 2 biggest guilty pleasure songs I know it's dirty I know it's naughty But I really like it
It was the obvious one, so I suppose that's a dodged bullet in case there are any truly wretched deep cuts we'd all rather *not* be made aware of.
"I know I'm gonna upset a lot of ladies out there by ripping apart their heart throb"
nah. John Mayer has had it coming for WAY too long.
Beavis & Butthead killed Winger’s career... thank you!
Perhaps Mike Judge was ahead of his time in realising how inappropriate the lyrics were?
Mike Judge created king of the hill and killed Winger. He’s a true legend.
Greatest quote of all time: "This is Joey Buttafuoco's theme song."
Whenever I hear about this band, I immediately think of Stewart.
Fuck the haters, Winger are great. They are probably one of the best bands of the eighties and nineties.
At least Bad Girlfriend is kinda fun (guilty pleasure). If ypu want something really shitty from Theory to make you groan, check out the snoozefests Love Is Hell and Easy To Love You 😪
Or their entire newest record
I agree. It's a fun rock song, the only bad thing is the lyrics.
God I'll take ten hours of Bad Girlfriend over...whatever else they've done since.
Yeah.
As much as we clown on Theory of a Deadman for it's songwriting, Bad Girlfriend is at least catchy and melodic.
As opposed to the "experimental" work of Wake Up Call or Say Nothing. The former being ironic, while the latter sums up what everyone wants to tell Theory in a nutshell.
Nonononono. 'Crazy Bitch' is a guilty pleasure. 'Bad Girlfriend' is just repulsive.
I'm not a native English speaker, but even with my approximative English back then, I kinda knew that the lyrics of Suck My Kiss were errrr... dubious. As you've said, the title was a dead give away. As a French Canadian, I deeply apologize for Simple Plan.
Finally, an apology. Thank you. Lol
and, years after, they were in france (style, we are a great world wide band , be happy, we are with you now). as french, i don't accept your apology!!!
Lol we accept your apology. I didn't know they were Canadian but the singer's name is Pierre so I could have guessed
As a Gen Z metalhead who got into Metal with Hair Metal, there many amazing power ballads that truly capture the spirit and passion of love.
*These are the exceptions*
I'm 30 and I can't stand hair metal save for a few guitar solos, I think it's a disgrace
They begin and end with "I Remember You" by Skid Row, IMHO.
This list is great! I worked in a record store from 1988 to 1991 and at the peak of hair metal we compiled a list of the worst power ballads. We declared Beth and Love Hurts (our manager really hated that song) as "legacy." My pick was Bad For Each Other by Shark Island. Lyrics were along the line of that Simple Plan song listed. Keep up the good work!
I have a theory. The unflattering adjectives in Cherry Pie were not being used to describe the girl, but their label that pushed the song.
That actually makes more sense, as a lot of bands pull that kind of stuff when their labels tell them what to put out.
Cherry Pie was Janie Lane's least favorite song. He finished the album but the label forced him to write it
10. Poison is one of my guilty pleasures, but "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" just makes me cringe I'd rather listen to their uptempo stuff.
9. Not really a bad song, but this song is not representative of Extreme. I'd rather hear them rock.
8. RHCP doing a love song? Yeah... no.
7. If there's a single song that killed glam metal, this is probably it. It's kind of a fun listen, but don't think too hard about it.
6. Because "The Final Countdown" wasn't lame enough. BTW, I knew a girl named Carrie at the church I attended as a teen. I thought she was annoying - but not as much as this song was.
5. This is after I stopped giving a shit about current music. But looking at the lyrics you posted, I can't loathe this song enough.
4. Again, after I stopped giving a shit about current music. And the song's protagonist sounds like he deserves a good ass-beating.
3. This is a love song??? REALLY???!!!! I'd probably get divorced if I wrote a song like this for my wife.
2. John Mayer needs to just shut up and play his damn guitar.
1. Hey, 17 is the age of consent in some jurisdictions (not mine, for the record)!
Dude, I understand these are just "lists" but you are so spot on! You're opinion is very valuable to me, and I'm a huge HARD Rock fan!!!
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that "Seventeen" by Winger got as popular as it did. After all, people thought "Every Breath You Take" by the Police was a love song...
I’m so glad lips of an angel made it on the list I have hated that song for years
It's pure trash. I got invited to a wedding and the couple danced to it. Questionable to be sure
@@antoniac1234 they danced to a song about infidelity at a wedding. smdh.
@@drustanastrophel9538 Bet they're divorced now.
Agree. Back when this song came out I was dating a girl who loved it. I ended up breaking it off with her a couple of months later when I found out she was screwing around. I guess I shoulda saw it coming.
I will always love More Than Words. Those harmonies are amazing, especially that minor second tension to perfect fifth resolution at the end of the second chorus. It’s a damn good song and I don’t care what anyone else says.
I agree, beautiful harmonies. I don't dislike it at all. I remember seeing Extreme live in London back in the 90s. They started doing MTW, and the fans singing drowned Gary Cherone out. In the end, they stopped playing and let us sing it to them.
I think it's a great song too, not sure why it's on here other than to bag on for being a really popular love song.
@@jevindayor because it is not a good love song
I know I’m 2yrs late, but More Than Words is a breakup song
And what’s more they stripped it down before anyone else did that from the glam world
I grew up in the 80's and was in Highschool in the early 90's. I loved a lot of these songs but you had me cracking up. In my defense, I was a teenager. The eighties were a party but then came grunge and reality!
Great job. lol
the second I heard john mayer I fell out of my chair laughing my ass off! Thank you Luke this list is great and these songs all belong here but that wonderland song is brain cancer for me so hearing other people rip on it will always make me smile 😂
As someone who is a fan of Simple Plan, songs like "Perfectly Perfect" are the reason why I feel a tad embarrassed to admit I like them.
It also makes entirely too much sense that the guy from the Plain White Tees co-wrote it. I hope they never work with him again.
I can't really argue with your list, it's pretty accurate. I never could stand "More Than Words" by Extreme and still can't. I would've found room to throw in the god awful song "High Enough" by Damn Yankees👎
Brett Michael's left with his 80s hair?....more like left with his very very obvious wig. Ever notice how you literally never see him without either a bandana or a hat? Plus that wig is waaaay too thick and lush for the hair of a man of his age.
Even when he was in a coma in the hospital he had a bandana on. I was like, the dude is bald, nobody in a coma should be wearing a bandana.
The Stop & Shop I used to work at played More Than Words almost non stop, so I damn near had a Vietnam-esque flashback when it popped up at number 9.
“More Than Words” was the “The Reason” of its day.
if he puts hoobastank the reason on here just as it is going viral on tiktok now, that would be very timely
@@feartheoutlaw293 oh i know, i was around don't worry. just didn't word it correctly. ;)
I wouldn't consider Cherry Pie a love song by any means. When I think a love song, I think Every Rose Has Its Thorn. Cherry Pie is just a sex song, it's the 90s version of Bad Girlfriend, Animals, or Perfectly Perfect.
How did Butterfly by Crazy town not make the list
@Kane Bennett except that No Doubt, Vanessa Carlton and Michelle Branch are actually good.
@@GNVS300 also the song was actually sincere, Shify wrote it for his girlfriend at the time and she even appeared in the time capsule of a music video
Butterfly is "1999 - The Song" (not the Prince one)
"Chicka chicka dee/Do me like a banshee - Edgar Allan Poe"
I am deceased
More than words is excellent "so bad it's good", it's so hokey I dig it.
@Nowherebound Gaming I mean... she’s not wrong.
Well, love is officially dead. At least it had a good run.
Saw the #1 and immediately “Domino” by KISS came to mind. Just putting it out there.
Kiss also has Heavens on Fire,Christine Sixteen, and worst of all Going Blind.
Lick it up could have made this list. Forever is a banger though
"Let's Put the 'X' in Sex" is quite cringe, as well.
@@michaelvandeginste3497 you're right. Kiss might as well make the entire list
@@TheJbhmetal knowing them, they'd be proud of it, too!
i think stephen kings always terrified of carrie coming on the radio
Thank you for including John Mayer. A big snore
Ok I started to freak out when u mentioned RHCP "suck my kiss"......... But then I started to see your point....😂
Me: Oh, Luke's new Top 10 Worst Love Songs came out, sure it won't be too controver-
*Sees number 9*
Oh. Well, it can't possibly get any mo-
*Sees number 8*
*WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF LUKE, WHYYY???!!!*
Five bucks says Lips of an Angel by Hinder is on this list.
Update: I WIN!
P.S. I'm shocked that Winger song hasn't gotten them cancelled yet.
Ten for Eat You Alive by Limp Bizkit.
I can put 50 bucks on both of yours.
@@slevingarganera8375 That's Armie Hammer's favorite song.
I like that song although it has THE WORST COVER OF ALL TIME! Country to Rock works, Rock to Country 🤮
I’m kinda surprised Christine Sixteen by KISS wasn’t on this list... that song really creeps me out tbh especially Gene Simmons singing some of those words 😬
I’m going to be honest, I love glam/hair metal/rock and Carrie is a huge pleasure of mine… not even guilty lol
Thank you for putting "Cherry Pie" on here. I love Warrant, and knowing the entire story behind it infuriates me.
Also I’m addition to the #1 on this list another creepy/gross Rock/Metal song is “All in the name of” by Motley Crue.
The verse goes: “She’s only 15, she’s the reason that I can’t sleep.”
…🤢🤮
John Mayer is the lead guitar player for Dead and Company. So Mr. Fathers be good to your daughters too now solos and sings tunes originally by Jerry Garcia.
Also, age of consent laws vary by state (17 is the legal age in Illinois which is where I'm from for example). That fact doesn't make Winger less creepy or most of their songs from that era less cheesy and lame though.
I was thinking of that hinder song and was gonna suggest it at the end of the video....nailed it, man
Most of these I welcome to anyone's shit-list. I like "Carrie" though. Europe had a couple of harder, faster albums before The Final Countdown. The Final Countdown and the follow-up Out of this World do sound very dated for sure. Never thought the lyrics were particularly good or bad, but wondered how good Joey Tempest's English was. Europe did distinguish themselves from a lot of the other hair metal bands though, they had their own hair metal sound. I wouldn't say they're my "guilty pleasure", I think they're better than most hair metal, along with Def Leppard.
Speaking of Def Leppard any of the love songs from Adrenalize or X can go to any shit-list for all I care.
Every rose has it's thorn is so overhyped and i am so over it
I’m surprised there wasn’t a nickelback song on this list 😂
Sweet Cherry Pie was the song that made my father in his glam metal days. (Early 20's.) Want to get a shower and pray if he had a daughter would never know of this song.
Two words: Christine Sixteen 🙃
I'm glad someone else thinks Suck My Kiss is gross. BSSM is a great album, but some of the lyrics are pretty cringey.
Anything by PsychoSexyDevil or whatever the name of the guy was.
I love these songs I strongly disagree with the list but ya the simple plan one I agree with you on that one
Hang on....WHAT!?!
Seventeen by Winger BETTER than Bullet With Butterfly Wings and Would!?! When did VH-1 lose their marbles exactly?
I am GenX, and I agree with all of your choices. Yes, the 80s were messed up!
Seeing Seventeen by Winger being put higher than Would? by Alice In Chains on a best hard rock songs list absolutely hurts
Ouch!!!! R.I.P. Layne Staley and Mike Starr
More Than Words kicks ass, man 😔
Christine 16 from Kiss is a creepy too. As a Canadian who listen a lot of metal and rock from Europe (the continent, not the band), you comfort me in my choice.
Your body is a wonderland is an awesome song and amazing
Didn't expect that particular Simple Plan song when we have "Im a dick. Im a dick-ted to you."
Or "you still make my crazy little heart go boom"
I could have SWORN his choice would be My Alien.
@@18FrozenAngels I guess he gave them a pass since they were a lot younger when they wrote it. Wasn’t that on their first album? I always imagined it as a cute song for a cartoon for like, 7 year olds.
Nah
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She's only seventy
You ain't seen osteoporosis like this
She's only seventy
Doctor says she's too old, but she still has Medicare.
Move over, Weird Al Yankovic.
make this happen
Still? Even in her old age?
I went to a wedding where the couple danced to hinder for there first dance. I turned to my wife and asked out loud if they had ever listened to the lyrics. Needless to say the were divorced in under 2 years.
@@feartheoutlaw293 well that's because those bands suck
@@feartheoutlaw293 Not "anything '80s," by any means. I don't even agree with most of Luke's tastes and I recognise that. Also all of those bands are plagued with wretched songwriting and questionable performances. 5FDP are probably the most unlistenable, frankly, but even outside of their music Ivan Moody is a wacko anti-masker and generally unpleasant human being so fuck them in general.
@@rudywilliams6538 Because somebody danced to a song by one band at their wedding? What?
That's hilarious. Sounds like something my friend Loren and his wife would have done at their wedding. He is IN LOVE with Creed, he goes to see them every time they come. They're his favorite band ever. I'm pretty sure he is smart enough to not make a song about cheating his wedding song though haha
@@jevinday yeah, my buddy loves Nickelback and it is no surprise or mystery to him that they are universally hated and are not good music writers. He doesn't care and loves them but....
I love bringing it up when we are out with new people. I've seen the best faces and reactions when people hear this about this music choice.
That Warrant song left a bad taste in my mouth, especially knowing where it brought Jani Lane to. He's much more than "that Cherry Pie guy" and no one hates that song (that was clearly made to cater to the then-zeitgeist) more than Jani himself. It gave him a good amount of money and fame, but also took more than he ever get.
R.I.P.
Agreed. Uncle Tom's Cabin is one of my favorite songs ever. I've always felt like that *should've* been the big hit and it's heart wrenching knowing that if that had been the big hit instead of Cherry Pie, Jani might still be with us today. 😢
@@mrcnub There a couple of interviews out there where Jani explained that he DIDN'T hate the SONG itself. He hated the fact that out of all the much better songs he wrote that it's the one most remembered by everyone. He actually called it a fun song and he was glad people liked it, he was just so disappointed that it overshadowed everything else.
Cherry Pie!
There have been countless unknown bands better than Warrant who never had any success at all. Cry me a river.
Zeitgeist...check out the big brain on Brett! Might I...I have a bite of that tasty Big Kahuna burger? If you wear tight leather, sport boohoo hair and sing about cherry pie...well you might as well fight the cannibal pedophiles along with Pubio and DeSatan. Got your Scamtera tix?
There's definitely something odd about guys in their 40s writing songs for teenagers. Shouldn't artists grow and mature as they age in terms of their material?
Ask Green Day. Nah, I'm kidding. Sort of.
You mean like Bryan Adams?
Have you heard Domino by Kiss? ruclips.net/video/c_fz_k8Lnqg/видео.html
@@visaman no. I wouldn't personally hold him up as an example of that.
You figure they should just retire instead of writing for the majority? Plus their older fans almost certainly still like the music.
And if you think Lips of an Angel couldn't get any worse I've got 2 words for you... Kidz Bop
Still not as horrible as the Kidz Bop version of Headstrong
Kidz Bop makes every song they do sound awful.
Has there been a Kidz Bop version of Butterfly by Crazy Town?
OH NO
@@billiejoeeyelash *oh no*
I remember when Hal Sparks on VH1's I Love The 90's described the lyrics of Extreme's "More Than Words" being "SHUT UP AND BLOW ME!"
Lol I remember that! 😄
If you really think about it, John Mayer was to mid 2000s high school girls what Jesse McCartney was to mid 2000s middle school girls, not because they had similar styles, because they obviously don’t, but because they had the same appeal
Daily reminder that John Mayer wrote that song when he was 14.
@@knightwing5169 Doesn't mean he had to record it. I wouldn't want to record or publish anything that I wrote when I was middle or high school age. He shouldn't have either. Especially not that song.
@@monstermikeheinrichs Fair point. IMO the song is enjoyable when I ignore the lyrics.
@@monstermikeheinrichs Makes sense, but there's a couple of exceptions that I'm glad saw the light of day: Greg Lake wrote Lucky Man at age 14 and Paul McCartney wrote When I'm 64 at age 12.
My dad used to be in a Jimmy Buffet cover band, and they would do “Why Don’t We Get Drunk”. One time, his mom was visiting and went to see him perform. The band was considering doing the song, but my dad was hesitant since his mom was there. My grandmother then said very loudly in front of everyone that it was my grandfather’s favorite song. They played it.
God bless you, Grandma!
Seeing Hinder, I'm reminded of why I'm grateful that, in all of my years playing bass in various bands, I was never part of an act where the lead singer had bras hanging off of the mic stand.
yeah, what the crap is up with that?
I was Shocked that "Bed of Roses" didn't make this list.
Something about Jon Bon telling his wife that he's sleeping with all these girls on the road but he really only loves her, gets me every time.
The height of romance 😂😂😂
Well he loves his wife but is having sex with various women on the road! There is very little connection between sex and love, you can have sex with someone and have no feelings for the one way or another and on the other side you can love someone that you never have sex with!
TL;DR Songs about sex are NOT love songs!
Kinda like Steel Panther's "Community Property"
Much as I hate Bon Jovi (and that awful song), I must give credit to Jon for staying faithfully and happily married to the same wife for 30-some years.
@@davidl570 If you believe that, I have some beachfront property in Arkansas to sell you :) .
I think Crazy Bitch by Buck Cherry belongs in this list as well
It is pretty bad as a love song and now that I look back at it it's really not that great of a song in general. It's kinda just crass.
definitely
i like it lol
"Crazy bitch" is an unofficial nickname i use to make my wife laugh... so i'm sure the song is as bad as my sense of humor
Should've been top 3.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Christine Sixteen by Kiss, they one upped winger by going one year lesser.
Motley Crue takes it a step further with All In The Name Of Rock N Roll.
Yep. It's curious how Kiss and Mötley Crüe get away with singing about statutory rape, but Winger gets left holding the bag.
Everyone talks about The Stones' Brown Sugar, wait 'til they hear live versions of Stray Cat Blues.
I am VERY HAPPY that Seventeen by Winger was at least on this let, let alone number 1. I am from that generation of fandom and I thought it was gross at the time.
We all knew what was up, even back in the day.
No wonder Beavis and Butthead hated Winger... and also Stewart who wore a Winger shirt.
And Metallica, too.
Winger are very good.
@@GDCDGC Yeah absolutely. 👍
When I first heard the song "Carrie" I thought of the classic horror movie starring Sissy Spacek, which was based on an early novel by Stephen King. Talk about a misfire!
Same here, I immediately thought of that film (especially the prom scene). It just what the name Carrie made me think of
Same here. And blood.
i always thought the song was about that carrie
I remember once my dad told me, unprompted, when he was a teen in the 80's he thought Poison were posers.
I think about it every time Poison is brought up lmao
My dad (RIP) was something of a music scenester when he was younger, and man, he *loathed* Poison and most of the hair bands in general.
@@ConvincingPeople I don't think my dad initially liked hair metal. He was more into stuff like Iron Maiden as a teen. I think he warmed up to Poison as he got older but he doesn't love them.
I have bad memories with Poison one of my neighbours used to blast the crap out of Unskinny Bop and I hated it so much along with some Kid Rock thrown in 🙃 so yeah I think poison are one of the worst bands of the 80s and Brett Michaels is one of the worst singers I’ve ever heard!
@@MrParkerman6 Um....I think they meant "posers" as in "fake".
I can't stand them. They are poseurs.
"More than words" was my sisters wedding song, 20 years ago. To be fair, English is not our first language, so we probably just heard "love you more than words" and collectively thought awww. And they are still together so, actions were shown?
Songs that become a couple's "our song" - as in, "they're playing our song" - are as individual as those couples. I've been to weddings where "Hallelujah" (the Leonard Cohen song) was the wedding song, or "Annie's Song" by John Denver. If that's the song they associate with their love, I'm not going to leap down their throats for it.
Unless it's "Every Breath You Take". Come on, folks, Sting himself called that one a stalker anthem.
@@ospero7681 Every Breath You Take = good song with creepy lyrics.
I mean the song’s about how love is more than just saying “I love you” and you actually need to show your s/o that you love them with your actions. If they got married I’m willing to bet that the two of them did that quite a bit.
VH1 THOUGHT SEVENTEEN WAS BETTER THAN WOULD? BY AIC????
yeah, wtf is up with that?
Life ain't fair ain't it ?
I don't put much stock in VH1, or the first iteration called MTV!
Wow that's dumb. I know different people have different opinions but holy shit.
Or Bullet With Butterfly Wings?
I've never actually thought about the lyrics to More Than Words. When I see the video, I can't stop staring at Nuno and I lose the whole run of myself. He's just so gottdamn gaw-jus. I get what you're doing here and you are absolutely correct. They lyrics and messages are icky. I'm an older Gen X person and I despise Winger. I saw them in concert once and Kip went behind the drum kit and arranged his shirt so it looked as if it just fell open that way. I know it's petty, but that stays with me. Just so cringeworthy. I hated their show. We were there to see Kiss.
I can't hear that song without seeing Jack Black and Jimmy Fallon doing the cover, in full makeup.
Agreed on Nuno being hot AF
@@faeriegraver I mean goddamn! He's practically perfect.
As a lady, I am not upset at all with the John Mayer entry. I genuinely think this song is disgusting, and every time I hear the intro to that song I audibly screech "EEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!" So, I'm glad there are other humans out there that agree with me!
Gonna cause some eyerolls with this, but "Taking one for the team" by Simple Plan is not the worst album ever. Call it guilty pleasure all you want.
That being said, f*ck "Perfectly Perfect". Awful song.
I disagree, the first 2 SP albums are genuine guilty pleasures (I mean as childish as it is, the melody for a song like Shut Up! slaps, it’s Musical Junk food at its finest imo), Taking One For The Team is just a worse version of those records, with less catchy and memorable hooks and melodies and somehow even more insipid lyrics (although I do agree with you that Farewell is a good song)
I actually agree. Taking One For The Team is either my 2nd or 3rd fav Simple Plan album. Tracks like Opinion Overload, Farewell, Nostalgic, I Refuse (and hell, even I Don't Wanna Be Sad to an extent) were pretty catchy and innocently fun tracks.
@@davchr214 thank you! I actually seriously outgrew their first two albums, but the last three actually had quite fun moments. Objectively bad yes, but hell, "Farewell" and "Nostalgic" are probably my favorites from them and I will even defend over-the-top childish moments like "Kiss me like nobody's watching", "You Suck At Love" and "Anywhere else but here" from the previous album. It's not like 30-year-olds cannot relate to those simple feelings at times.
And in case you didn't know, their previous band "Reset" actually played some genuinely decent pop punk in the 90s. They were genuine teenagers at that time. Pierre wrote a rebellious adolescent pop punk song like "Let Me Go" when he was actually a teenager and then followed that up with "I'm Just A Kid" in his 20s, that's some HARDCORE selling out there ;-)
@@DucciVinci I’m in full agreement! Their first two albums are my least favs and their last three I like quite a bit more. Get Your Heart On! is my favorite of them and tracks like Can’t Keep My Hands Off You, You Suck At Love, Summer Paradise, This Song Saved My Life and several others I actually enjoy unironically.
As for the TOTTT tracks, I also think “Kiss Me Like Nobody’s Watching” is a fine and fun enough song.
Agreed. Bad Girlfriend by Theory of a Deadman is definitely not as bad as that cheesy ass song
Apologies if I'm late to the party, but I dig your new hairstyle. The video is great too, I just wanted to mention the hair first.
"I'm sorry I can't be perfect but you are perfectly perfect to me" My brain combined Perfect with Perfectly Perfect and created an even cheesier Simple Plan lyric
Simple Plan are easily the least talented on this list.
Things that distracted me from Luke's voice in this video:
- Bret Michaels' very awkward downpicking on that acoustic 12-string that's probably not even plugged in
- The bras on Austin Winkler's mic stand
- The fact that Simple Plan are still together, still making music that's obviously aimed at middle schoolers, while in their 40's
- "Seventeen" by Winger is listed higher than "Would ?" by AIC on a list of the best hard rock songs
Wow..whose list was that man?
Your right. Miles away was a way better Winger song
My family are family friends of Kip Winger (My dad's best friend's wife was Winger's wardrobe manager at the time, so I met him a lot when I was little in the late 80's)...and even THEY knew it was messed up ...especially the "She's a Magic Mountain" part....like....duuuuuude. Love ya, Kip...but my mom even joked with him how fucking creepy it was.
The Winger boys were almost 30 when they wrote Seventeen. These are some of the lyrics. : I'm only seventeen (seventeen)
But I'll show you love like you've never seen
She's only seventeen (seventeen)
Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me...
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS??!!
These songs were written too their audience that was mainly teenagers.
I doubt Ringo Starr really had a 16 year old gf when he was in his 30's either.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 Yeah, I know. I usually mention that Beatles song too. I just didn't this time because the video was about Winger. The song may have been written to their fans, but that doesn't change the fact that the lyrics are telling those teenage fans that they are old enough for the band, and it seems this entire time, very few people have had a problem with it.
Probably because in most countries 17 is not under age, so it's not an issue.
@@susi-emily Yeah except they weren't from most countries, they are American, so...
@@GDCDGC lol Not all people are soft, says the pedo defending Winger hahaha
I have always felt "Dirty, rotten, filthy, Stinky" at the beginning of Cherry Pie was a nod to their first album "Dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking Rich" makes more sense to me than trash talking your girl before you talk about "Swinging all night long"
Yeah, that’s what it was
I always thought Body is a Wonderland was super creepy! This one, and the John Mayer song about how fathers should be good to their daughters because daughters become lovers and then mothers, etc. Ew.
I never (personally) read it that way. I can see why for some it doesn’t pass the sniff test.
John Mayer wrote Daughters about Jennifer Aniston's mom because he felt at the time like she fucked her up. So he's basically saying treat your kids right because if you don't they'll probably grow up to be an emotionally unavailable mess. Not that weird.
I don’t blame all those women for dumping Tyler Conolly.
When you ask how Simple Plan got so big, I instantly thought “Warped Tour”.
I thought Seventeen was supposed to be a jab at rock stars who dated underage girls ( *cough* Ted Nugent *cough* )
As much as I love Ted, he should have been arrested and castrated.
Or Steven Tyler.
@@ginnrollins211 both make great rock music and bad choices. Both extremely sick freaks that needed serious punishment.
17 is underage? I thought 16 was the age of consent?
@@annamoore3129 are you joking
i'm offended that Simple Plan is considered rock
To me, Simple Plan is about as "rock" as Jonas Brothers, 5SOS or other "cool boys with guitars" bands that 6 grade girls listen to.
They're pop punk/pop rock
@@henrydrummond5902 They're about as punk as Celine Dion.
I spent a bit of time listening to kiddie punk like Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Blink, etc. when I got brainwashed by the Kerrang TV channel in the 00s. Then I got better.
Simple Plan is Pop-Punk, not Rock. There's a big difference.
I feeling really embarrassed about having "Lips of an Angel" and "Bad Girlfriend" on my phone right now...
To be fair, I never imagined Bad Girlfriend to possibly be a love song. And I saw Lips of an Angel as a regretful, one-that-got-away type song rather than about wanting to cheat (I guess we never really moved on).
I don't love the songs, but I do still enjoy them.
And you probably forgot about them after you no longer have them as your ringtone
10:47 - They have another song on their Self Titled album, called "I Can Wait Forever". It would fit perfect in this list. It's an 80's metal song... released in 2008.
12:41 - When I first saw them I thought they were a parody band like Steel Panther.
16:20 - I believe he either wrote the song WHEN he was 14 and having sex, or ABOUT being 14 and having sex. Still creepy either way.
"Chicka chicka dee
Do me like a banshee"
Is not poetry.
But this is
I don't think Anthony Kiedis knows what a banshee actually is. He wants a woman to bang him while she's very loudly mourning a recently deceased family member of his? That's an oddly specific kink you have, Blackie, Jr.
A lot of songwriters just sing random gibberish while they're trying to figure out the best riff, melody or chord progression for a song, then work on the lyrics when they have the musical side nailed down. "Yesterday" is the most famous example, Paul McCartney used "scrambled eggs - oh, how I love your legs" as lyrics while he wrote the music.
I'd give Kiedis the benefit of the doubt along those lines, but he doesn't write any of the music for his band, as far as I know. He just writes lyrics, so there is no excuse for him to pump out a lot of the nonsense he has for decades now. He is the reason I never became an RHCP fan, although I like some of their music.
As someone who likes a good deal of Hair Metal, I can say that Carrie is extremely lame.
I grew up with hair metal and 80s pop rock and Europe is one of my favorite bands in the genre, but their ballads, including Carrie, are just...🥴.
I occasionally see The Final Countdown show up on Worst Songs Ever lists and I've never understood that because Carrie is *SO MUCH WORSE*.
The Final Countdown rules, for the record, eff the haters.
@@mrcnub Agreed, it's such a fun song.
So glad the 40-song, 3-disc "Rocking the 80s" CD compilation my parents gave me when I was younger has that and "Cherokee" as its Europe representation, and not "Carrie".
How is Carrie bad, his voice is fucking amazing
Bro have you ever done a 10 most scary/unsettling rock songs?
Sadly, "Cherry Pie" also ranked on that top 100 hard rock song list by VH1, and did Creed. I think those facts are enough to disqualify said list.
You shudder when you see that Seventeen ranked higher than Aqualung!!!
Those VH1 lists were early clickbait. VH1 also included Cherry Pie and Seventeen on their Awesomely Bad lists, so they don't even know if they actually think those songs are good. They just know they were popular. 🙄
I'm pretty sure the VH1 lists were voted on by viewers
Ill give Europe some props here!🤘👍😃 Over the last few years their albums have been legit, hard rock in the vein of Zeppelin and Deep Purple. Might be not everyones taste here, but the (brilliant!) cheese and pomp of the 80s hayday doesnt exist in their music now and hazznt for ages. I happened to see them live a couple of years back and thought they were great. "Walk the Earth", their last album was decent heavy rock. No Carrie in sight!😊 Enjoyed this list and commentary.
I'm pretty sure that even John Mayer himself said that that song was horrible
I will not defend the song Cherry Pie for obvious reasons. However, I will forgive the band for the song, beings that they were forced to write a double entendre sex song like Aerosmith's Love In An Elevator, practically overnight. So what would have been an arguably iconic album Uncle Tom's Cabin, has now become a novelty sidenote and a cherry demon Jani Lane (God Bless His Soul) just couldn't shake...
The fact that these songs are supposed to be "romantic" just shows how low the standards are... Being a woman is hard! XD
When Winger does 17 now he says she's only 43 or something like that
43 year old virgin?
I enjoy a lot of the songs on this list. But i`m an adult, so i won`t scream and cry and let it all out (sorry. Had to.).
Having said that.
WHO THE F*CK GAVE THE GUY FROM HINDER A MICROPHONE? Sounds like he`s recording in the bathroom while constipated.