Yeah it was funny, though I'm not sure I completely agree with him either. If my hose or grill or car needs repaired, I know that most of the parts (in some cases, all of the parts) can be found off-the-shelf at general retailers. If the only place I can buy a hose adapter is directly from the store, and the only brand I can find is the company that makes it, that's a different situation entirely. I'd hate to have one break on a Saturday afternoon, then there's no way to use my hose for a week. Especially since the only upside seems to be aesthetics unless I'm missing something.
I understand where he was coming from, but when it comes to something that is being put on a building that may last 50-100 years I don't agree. If that plastic adapter breaks or gets lost in 20 years I very seriously doubt you can get a replacement. The company may go out of business or just not make the part anymore. It is very likely that the adapter will get misplaced since it can't stay on the hose bib. It would be a huge hassle to have to replace the entire hose bib because of that one part. If these companies are going to start making a system like this popular we seriously need to some up with a standard adapter ASAP. I really liked the hose bib until that part. I was wondering how the hose connects the entire time.
If you're planning on putting in an access panel anyway, might be a good idea to put in an inline ball valve too - that way you can shut it off for service. This is how I shut off exterior water for winter up here in cold-ass Canada.
I centrally connected all my hose bibs to an air hose blowout valve. Turn off the water inside. Shut them all off inside. Turn on all the faucets and sprayers outside. Hook up the air compressor and turn on open the valve. Then turn on each faucet from inside and let the water blow out. Close that valve and move to the next one. 30 minutes later all my hoses and sprayers are empty and dry. I disconnect them and store them in the shed for the winter
Paul, your appreciation for the small details, and quality craftsmanship, like for the welded nuts instead of tapped thin metal, gives me the warm and fuzzies 😂 I love that kind of stuff too, and it just feels great to be in the best company!
One design improvement on the hose system is a kickout on the bottom side of the front plate. To break the water tension so that it doesn't drizzle back to the siding when you pull the hose out. Even though you'll have it all waterproof, always nice to divert the water away from the siding, straight to the ground.
Canadian tradesmen here. This is a solved problem. The freezing problem has been solved for several decades, with a standard part that costs less then $30USD This part, commonly referred to as sillcock, frost-free or freeze-proof faucet, also places the water shut off seal 12" into the house. It has few moving parts, and all moving?/wearing parts (eg O-ring) can be easily and quickly replaced from outside, without ever disturbing your seal from the faucet to the house. But this one is very pretty. I tend to see very southern people shilling this, as they don't know it's a solved problem.
Yeah sillcocks exist here too. This is just a new novel way to do things, as he explained in the video. It looks neat and clean. You’re not keeping old appliances in modern homes even though they’re cheaper and literally do the same job.
You can also combine 2 hole-saw bits, one smaller bit that fits the existing hole, and a larger diameter bit for the new hole. Saves you from having to make a template.
I have a few different hole saws and this “trick” doesn’t work with any of them. When one hole saw is on, there’s not enough threads to get on another one. A template is quick and easy to make and it always works.
@StudPack As you know, reparability is a major factor! In fact, you are mixing up proprietary and standardized. Most things we use are proprietary, but most are alsy standardized and accepted way of doing things. Aquor is not standardized in construction industry or even in boat or RV. They have been in the market for many years. Yet, parts are not readily available except if you call them. That means that they may decide not to have parts at any time and you will be stuck replacing the whole really expensive thing. The advantage with proprietary but standardized part is the fact that I can buy it anywhere (even on amazon) and replace the entire internal assembly with handle and all rubber gaskets for a fraction of cost of new and without ripping up everything. It is "less work, less money and less garbage" solution that effectively creates a brand new hose bib. In fact, i've done just that this summer for my 122 frost free hose bib. That being said, Aquor is a cool modern solution that should become standard in North America one day... I doubt it though...
Recommendation for you... I lived in Texas for over 15 years and I learned that Winter is the rainy season. I suggest that you finish the exterior before spending too much time on the interior. Spend the wet season doing the inside stuff. PS - maybe stage your insulation i& sheetrock n the inside dry space and save that work for rainy days when you can't work on the exterior.
Guys, I think I would grab a couple scrap 2x4 and use them as backers on the ends of those screws that are going through the ZIP osb. A little glue is all it needs, then you know those screws will never come loose if someone yanks the attachment, or pulls the hose to hard. (looking at video @14:07)
I guess it isn't as important as both hose bibs are downstairs where you probably don't plan to make it airtight, but keep those penetrations in mind for when you build the house to improve that blower door ACH score. In fact, you may still want to consider sealing that penetration better to give insects one less way to enter the garage.
Minor suggestion to Manufacture is to countersink holes for wall mount screws in exterior box to allow screws to lay flat to surface so Water sealing tape can lay flat instead of bumping out with air trapped.
We have a much simpler fix for this in Canada and northern States. 'Anti-syphon / non-freeze' hydrant. Come in lengths of 6-24". The valve is connected by an internal shaft all the way inside the house at the opposite end, when you turn it off, it drains all the water out of it through the regular outlet so there's no water in it to freeze and also doesn't make water run down the side of your house.
Yeah unfortunately I feel like this product @Stud Pack installed is much more overpriced gimmick of the traditional $50 woodford frost-free anti-siphon sillcock. In the Midwest it's all we use. And the perk is, you don't leak hardwater down the siding or house like this one is going to do, and adjusting the flow is very critical where this one looks like adjustment is not as incremental. I am sure they have a way to adjust flow with this one, right?
I installed one of these outside my shop a few years ago and I love it. IF… you’re in that kind of hood then you don’t have to worry about strangers messing with/stealing water.
In case you forgot old man, The O-rings failed on the space shuttle because they froze. It was a bad day for the nation. But everyone's entitled and I like the way you step up to your mistakes. This is one of the best channels on RUclips, keep up the great work. I'm old too. HA.
Woodford is the affordable version of this. You can leave a hose on, with water under pressue, on a freezing day. $20-30 for the standard OVAL handle unit. Thats how you know you jave the best unit.
With the old hosebib you mount an shut off valve upstream from the one the goes outside. Shut it to stop the flow of water, and open the hosebib and let the water drain out.
SP , I’m a “belt and suspenders” kind of guy when it comes to plumbing. Even with the O ring on the PEX fitting, I’d still put pipe dope in the threads!👍
That’s where this system will eventually fail. They’re depending a lot on those o-rings. Big mistake. Viton o-rings or rubber it doesn’t matter. They all will fail.
The fact that you guys are partnering with Bunker Branding is awesome. I love Matt over at Demo Ranch and to see what he's built is great for the community!
I just found your channel about a week ago when Matt did the video showing your house, and now I have been completely addicted. In the past week I watched over 50 of the videos and I have to say you, your son and your son-in-law are fantastic people. Your videos are engaging with a great dichotomy with each other and I really adore your channel. Very fun to watch and extremely knowledgeable. Keep pumping out the awesome videos. Wish I had a dad like you growing up, had to learn to carpentry on my own. Thanks for the wonderful entertainment.
Love the channel and content. I am surprised people still install hose bibs on the ground floor of their houses. I love a yard hydrant closer to where I'll actually use the hose/water. No penetrations into the envelope, no chances of it ever leaking into the house, no trip hazard if you hook a hose up to it, just all round better. Hose bibs are still good for a roof deck - like the ss extra freeze resistance didn't know it was 7x better !
I live near Chicago and have never had a standard hose bib freeze. As long as you remove the garden hose from the bib before it gets cold you won't have a problem. I am concerned that if I install the bib that you did, if the company goes out of business, where do I get a new connector? This is not for me. Love the build.
Thanks. Maybe I'll put one on my yacht. But at home I think I'm more comfortable with a bib with a VALVE, so i don't have to unplug the hose whenever not in use ( not taking a chance with it springing a leak at an inopportune moment) . In winter I'll take a shutoff on the other side of the wall, since you're still building an access panel anyway.
I lived on Long Island New York for 30 years and we've had some really cold winters where we had days of below freezing but never had our 2 outdoor hose connections freeze or leak or break. We had the old style knob that you had to turn a bunch of times to get water flowing. I guess we were lucky.
They make traditional styled frost freeze hose bibs. However, I have these on my house outside of Austin, TX. I bought a bunch of the hose connectors in case the company ever goes out of business. I also made a little spot by the hose bib to store one adapter when it's not on the hose.
I still like the Woodford bibs. They seal inside the house, and aren't plastic. But, any solution depends on the water line being in the warm side of the house, which can be problematic if someone leaves the garage door open during a freeze. Ideally, there is some sensor to raise an alarm if that happens.
My house was built in '76 and the Woodford bibs just needed some new packing washers about 8 years ago and they work fine up here outside Chicago and have never frozen in the winter. They are doing a commercial for a problem that was solved decades ago....
I have been watching your remodels and love the blocking idea. One other place I wish I had blocking was in my washroom. I installed adjustable shelves and the studs were in the wrong place. Blocking would have helped a lot! Great channel!
The way the comments on this one had gone you would think the Stud Pack boys had announced a federal law mandating this product. Buy it if you think it is good, dont if you dont, really easy solution here. I have also used a cutout like that to re-drill a hole saw hoke when I didnt have the previous sized saw to double up on my mandrel as a guide instead. I liked the use of the spare piece of board cut to the correct angle to act as a guide. Personally I might have taken the lazy route and upsized the upper hole by 1/8" to allow for the slope 😂
for those on a budget out there, and without local access to standard frost free sillcocks (or they dont work for you due to wall thickness limitations etc) , a poor mans way to achieve this with a regular hose bib, is to still install it on an angle, and install on the inside of the space, a ball valve shutoff with a built in drain bleed valve. the shutoff shuts off water inside the conditioned space, and the bleed valve lets air into the pipe so the water can drain out. However in this situation, you need access to those valves from inside. Also, the draining is done manually, instead of automatically every time you unscrew the hose. So it is not as smooth to use as the fancy hose bib, but cheaper and with off the shelf parts. And definitely a major upgrade from the standard hose bib with no way to drain it. It can also be one with two standard shutoffs as well, one to shut off water and one to act as the bleed valve. Another benefit aside from price, is you dont need the proprietary hose connector. It works with standard hose connection and all off the shelf parts.
I've lived in Canada for over 60 years and the outside temperature is below freezing for about 6 months (sometimes up to 9 months) every year, I've only ever seen 1 failed outdoor fawcet, and that was due to defective manufacturing, not freezing.
Been following for quite a while, this entire build and almost every video you’ve produced. Your videos have replaced Netflix for me. You guys are great hosts and Paul, you’re a living-breathing encyclopedia of information and techniques. You and Jordan deserve great success. Rad too. See you on the next one.
@@a.g8517 It is called years of experience (learning, doing, messing up, fixing mess ups) and reading all the latest news on construction technology. Book learning is great, but actually doing the work every day is when you actually learn.
I put hose Aquor bibs on our house in houston when we rebuilt after Harvey. Been through 4 winters so far and love them. My only issue is our water connection to the house comes up outside the foundation and code required them to put a standard hose bib on it before it comes in the house!
One thing to note is that there are normal frost free hose bibs. Yes they may not be super fancy but as long as you disconnect the hose (which you have to do with this product every time), there will be no issues. It looks like a neat product and definitely gives the house a premium look but I’m a fan of the old school Arrowhead frost free bibs. They also have Pex connections. Woodford can make some good ones too but the plastic on the newer ones is too flimsy. I like being able to just throttle the hose to a trickle or have the ability to put an irrigation timer on it or a Y. If I ever sell my house I might put one on. Universal hose threads and quick connects don’t need to be improved upon in my opinion.
The frost free isn't as novel as you think it is -- might be due to regional differences, but where I've lived (northwest US) it's standard for hose bibs to embed the valve deep in the house. That just leaves the funky connector - which looks clean and does minimise issues caused by dirt/bugs, but isn't worth going out of my way to use it.
@@gorak9000 and with a horse it's $0 to replace the engine. With a bonfire for cooking your food it's $0 to replace a burner. That's why you only see cars and stoves when someone is paid to promote them. It's a different style hose bib. Strictly speaking you could build a hose to interface directly with this and do away with the replacement piece. Will it catch on long term? Who knows but your complaints against it are purely manufactured
@@jacobalberty It also prevents the people working on your neighbors house from stealing your water. I think it's worth it just based on how it looks. If you live in a nicer house and care about aesthetics it's a no brainer.
@@jacobalberty as someone who’s actually installed these, his complaints are correct. I would have left out the paid promotion comment because I don’t think that’s how stud pack operates. However these aren’t good products. They have potential. Right now you have no choice but full blast. I rarely turn my hose bibs on full blast. The other is you can’t repair them. The only way to fix them is to cut the drywall and remove them. They also acted like it’s this or a standard sill cock, that’s not true. There’s freeze proof hydrants. They can be repaired and if you do have to replace them, you can just unscrew them. I think if the they’d make two improvements these would be worthwhile. First make the threads on the tool finer and longer so you can limit the flow. Then make the front removable so you can take it apart and change o rings and washers. I’d never suggest any part to a customer that requires maintenance and that maintenance requires cutting drywall every time.
Yeah, I live in North Texas, and that winter of a couple of years back made me a temporary "Stud Pack" kind of worker, because a pipe broke (feed the hose bib on the north side of the house, ironically.) And there were no contractors available, due to the demand AND folks still dealing with the pandemic. I think it simply "built character", but it was indeed a major pain in the patooty! Anyway, thanks for the content, I watch them all and enjoy them.
If you live in a cold climate every home will have a frost proof hose bib and have for 50 plus years - so nothing new here. But it looks like a nice device. Also in a cold climate you never put water lines in a exterior wall or soffit or attic or uninsulated crawl space as they will freeze solid when temps get below 32. Frozen lines can be thawed with a hair dryer if you can get to them. Appreciate yand like your videos 😮
They make frost free regular hose bibs that don't require the special adapter that I would always be loosing that have the same concept of shutting off in the wall
Frost free hose bibs have been around for a LONG time and don't require a fancy attachment to a standard hose to work. They're nice, but just not needed. When they go out of business, you'll be ripping it out to put in a regular frost free bib. Plus, the O-Rings! WTF! Way to over-complicate something. You'll be replacing O-Rings constantly....bullshit sponsored product placement.
Since the 'special adapter' STAYS on the hose, you'd have to lose the HOSE to lose the adapter. I have two bibs, bought two adapters. No muss, no fuss. I DO wish they'd made the handles on the adapters more 'grippy' -- I've had to hang some rubber-ish gloves near the bib, cause when my hand gets wet (it's a HOSE, guys, of COURSE my hands get wet!) , I haven't the hand strength to UNscrew the doggoned thing! Put a glove on and it unscrews no problem!
@@GrammarPoliceInvestigations "@1950Archangel Wait until the adapter cracks or the o-rings wear out and you have to change them. Fun times." The "adapter" will be in a heated garage's interior wall. So exactly what would make it crack? And the o-ring will just be sitting there on the pipe with nothing moving to cause wear. So exactly what would cause it to wear out?
Looks great. I would be a little concerned out the o-ring failing in the wall but I like making an access hatch if it does. Ez fix hopefully in the very far future
Gentlemen, I just found your channel recently. I love seeing a father teaching his son a skill that lasts a lifetime, and will provide for the next gen. Makes me miss my dad, but really cool to see.
Paul NOOoooo.... you need to visit high performance building supplies for the edpm gaskets. It keeps the air and vapor seal. The proclima ROFLEX 20 GASKET is i believe the size you want for small pipes, They also have ones for single wires and such. I also take a belt and suspenders approach, put a piece of stretch tape over the hole first, slice an X and push it in and over the osb so that any water won't rot it.
I love the idea of this, we are getting ready to build a house in NC and want to use these on our house. We dont see many freezing temps and due to this I almost always forget to cover the hose bids. Fortunately I have not had any damage yet but it's only a matter of time. So on the new house Im going this route.
This house is getting better and better. If I was building a house I’d be hanging in your every word. Thanks again for sharing this. This is a wonderful project and if someone’s smart this can be a great learning experience.
I didn't know a product like this existed. It is a cool design and it looks like Aquafor thought of everything. My gut tells me it's not cheap, but it does what it's supposed to do very well. I think that's money well spent since it's about choice. Great installation tutorial.
Oop's arbor lets you take a hole saw the size of the old hole and a hole saw the new size you need. Works great saved me a lot of time. Also Bosch's has a new hammer drill with a level that you can program to the angle you need.
I know Matt risinger oushes these hose bibs but I can’t get on board and think y’all are making a mistake. I’ve installed these a couple of times and realized these issues. First is ease of use. You have to keep track of a tool to turn it on/off. Also there’s no way to change the flow. It’s either on or off. Then it’s bad when using a hose. Because once you click that thing in it’s on, you have to connect the tool to the hose first and depending on the situation it’s a pain to twist it in. I also don’t like to tell someone to buy extra parts to fill a bucket. The second thing is replacement. It will eventually fail. There’s no way to access the washers. Most freeze proof hydrants you can unscrew the front to repair it. However these are solid so you have to replace it. Then when replacing it, try wires no way to do it without cutting drywall. Because of its shape you can unscrew it so you’d have to disconnect it from the back. Im the video, you act as if the option is aquor or a standard sill cock. That’s not true. They make freeze proof hydrants that screw the same the aquor does except you can unscrew it as well. I guess if you do go this route there’s some upsides not mentioned, mainly due to the cover. Not only does it look better with that cover versus a sill cock, there’s nothing stuck out that you can hit. I just worked on a hose bib that stuck out because they had to put a bonding wire on it. This made the end stick out almost 6” from the wall so naturally it was bent because someone hit it.
After some though I think a few design changes could make these worthwhile. I’d make the threads on the adapter piece finer and longer. This way you might could partially open it so it’s not always full blast. I’d also make the front removable to service it. I think with these two changes, I wouldn’t have an issue with them. I would never recommend a product to a customer that requires regular maintenance and they maintenance requires cutting into walls.
I like hose bib adapters. The orings will go bad but they look super easy to replace with a $1 oring kit. I use hose quick adapters and a bit of lithium grease keeps those mating surfaces prepped.
Richard Tretheway on Ask This Old House did a story about a system like this. If this the same manufacture they appear to upgraded this. You gentleman keep nailing your videos. Keep up the great videos and work!
I have one of these installed last year. I have to give Aquor credit for a great invention. My back Hose bib always froze here in the Northeast area. Since installing this, NOT ONCE did Aquor ever freeze as it drained the water straight out. I wand to replace my front hose bib but it is behind my cabinet and on BRICK Overlay.
Dear Stud Pack, As someone who lives in the northeast I know all about freezing pipes. In order to make sure the hose doesn't freeze I have an easy free solution......shut the water off to the hose, drain it, and store the hose for the winter!!! So many people up here don't do that and it costs them thousands.......love how the garage is going!!!!
neither do normal deep set hose bibs (for cold environments, where the seat is 12" back or so). super common in every house in freezing areas. (since the old style ones long ago froze up)@@TeflonBilly426
Houston, Texas rarely gets to freezing and when it does it is usually a soft freeze that does not last very long. Usually the heat escaping through the wall is enough to prevent faucets from freezing if you put a cover over them. And most of the time, the cover is never necessary. My parents live in the Panhandle where it gets colder longer than in Houston. They have the old style hose bibs on the house they had built in 1973 and have never covered them and never had a problem with water freezing. Even two years ago when we had that extremely cold freezing weather for a couple of weeks. Of course our electric generator company is not controlled by the quasi-governmental agency like most of Texas down there is so we had no problem with losing power because wind generators froze up and power plants went down.
I am sold! Our pipes freeze every winter. It is a nightmare. Thank you for sharing this awesome product. Next step for me, convincing the hubby. Lol. Job security. Teehee!
it may be the first time building it, but I'm guessing Paul has "rebuilt" very part of the build in the past. A friend of mine once said "Experience is what you get after having needed it the most" And Paul's experience vault is practically bottomless. Kudos to the three of you men ( and the women behind who support you all!)
Anti-siphon frostproof sillcocks work great in freezing weather, just as long as the homeowner remembers to remove the hose. Before the temperature drops below freezing. Making sure that the sillcock also pitches down to the outside so it drains completely, just don’t twist the hell out of the handle and screw it up!!
I hope at the end of the garage/apartment build you will go thru all the costs involved. It is so epic of a place. Perhaps a one person elevator for Paul and wife when they move in in their later years.
hey guys, another great video! That hose bib system is great but needs a better, higher-quality handle for opening / closing the valve. Something like a brass knob rather than that plastic blue handle. Otherwise that is a totally genius system and I'll be installing it in my new build. Also, one thing I have to mention, I know you probably didn't mean it in a negative way, but at 15:58 your quip about the Space Shuttle and o-rings was not so good. You may recall that it was the SRB o-rings that were infamously found to be the cause of the Challenger disaster. So o-rings were, in fact, not good enough for the Space Shuttle, and sadly Challenger was the result. Again, I know you only had good intentions but maybe avoid that reference in the future. All the best!
Paul's "proprietary parts" rant was the best / funniest part of this video!!! Haha....
I love these Stud Pack videos. Keep up the great work!
Yeah it was funny, though I'm not sure I completely agree with him either. If my hose or grill or car needs repaired, I know that most of the parts (in some cases, all of the parts) can be found off-the-shelf at general retailers. If the only place I can buy a hose adapter is directly from the store, and the only brand I can find is the company that makes it, that's a different situation entirely. I'd hate to have one break on a Saturday afternoon, then there's no way to use my hose for a week. Especially since the only upside seems to be aesthetics unless I'm missing something.
I understand where he was coming from, but when it comes to something that is being put on a building that may last 50-100 years I don't agree. If that plastic adapter breaks or gets lost in 20 years I very seriously doubt you can get a replacement. The company may go out of business or just not make the part anymore. It is very likely that the adapter will get misplaced since it can't stay on the hose bib. It would be a huge hassle to have to replace the entire hose bib because of that one part. If these companies are going to start making a system like this popular we seriously need to some up with a standard adapter ASAP. I really liked the hose bib until that part. I was wondering how the hose connects the entire time.
IF I had teachers like Paul when I was in school, I would have LOVED school!! Great work gents!!
If you're planning on putting in an access panel anyway, might be a good idea to put in an inline ball valve too - that way you can shut it off for service. This is how I shut off exterior water for winter up here in cold-ass Canada.
Yup! This should be code everywhere!
yeah cuz you're going to need them to replace those eight hundred dollars hose bibs in a couple years.
Frost proof valves were and are common up here in NJ. I use ball valves inside. Shut valve, leave hose bib open.
I centrally connected all my hose bibs to an air hose blowout valve. Turn off the water inside. Shut them all off inside. Turn on all the faucets and sprayers outside. Hook up the air compressor and turn on open the valve. Then turn on each faucet from inside and let the water blow out. Close that valve and move to the next one. 30 minutes later all my hoses and sprayers are empty and dry. I disconnect them and store them in the shed for the winter
I have a master shut off for all outdoor water.... seeing this reminded me to turn it off
Paul, your appreciation for the small details, and quality craftsmanship, like for the welded nuts instead of tapped thin metal, gives me the warm and fuzzies 😂 I love that kind of stuff too, and it just feels great to be in the best company!
These videos are what I watch instead of tv. Good job fellas
One design improvement on the hose system is a kickout on the bottom side of the front plate. To break the water tension so that it doesn't drizzle back to the siding when you pull the hose out. Even though you'll have it all waterproof, always nice to divert the water away from the siding, straight to the ground.
Canadian tradesmen here. This is a solved problem.
The freezing problem has been solved for several decades, with a standard part that costs less then $30USD
This part, commonly referred to as sillcock, frost-free or freeze-proof faucet, also places the water shut off seal 12" into the house.
It has few moving parts, and all moving?/wearing parts (eg O-ring) can be easily and quickly replaced from outside, without ever disturbing your seal from the faucet to the house.
But this one is very pretty.
I tend to see very southern people shilling this, as they don't know it's a solved problem.
Yeah sillcocks exist here too. This is just a new novel way to do things, as he explained in the video. It looks neat and clean. You’re not keeping old appliances in modern homes even though they’re cheaper and literally do the same job.
Hell yeah I’m so glad y’all chose bunker branding.
Do you remember the space shuttle Challenger that EXPLODED killing all crew??
O-RING FAILURE
Hopefully this one never goes bad
You can also combine 2 hole-saw bits, one smaller bit that fits the existing hole, and a larger diameter bit for the new hole. Saves you from having to make a template.
I have a few different hole saws and this “trick” doesn’t work with any of them. When one hole saw is on, there’s not enough threads to get on another one. A template is quick and easy to make and it always works.
Yes, you need a deep threaded mandrel or hole saws with thinner bases to do this, it really depends on the manufacturer!
@madperfect
Just duck tape a couple of drills together and make both holes simultaneously.
@StudPack As you know, reparability is a major factor! In fact, you are mixing up proprietary and standardized. Most things we use are proprietary, but most are alsy standardized and accepted way of doing things. Aquor is not standardized in construction industry or even in boat or RV. They have been in the market for many years. Yet, parts are not readily available except if you call them. That means that they may decide not to have parts at any time and you will be stuck replacing the whole really expensive thing. The advantage with proprietary but standardized part is the fact that I can buy it anywhere (even on amazon) and replace the entire internal assembly with handle and all rubber gaskets for a fraction of cost of new and without ripping up everything. It is "less work, less money and less garbage" solution that effectively creates a brand new hose bib. In fact, i've done just that this summer for my 122 frost free hose bib.
That being said, Aquor is a cool modern solution that should become standard in North America one day... I doubt it though...
Recommendation for you... I lived in Texas for over 15 years and I learned that Winter is the rainy season. I suggest that you finish the exterior before spending too much time on the interior. Spend the wet season doing the inside stuff. PS - maybe stage your insulation i& sheetrock n the inside dry space and save that work for rainy days when you can't work on the exterior.
Guys, I think I would grab a couple scrap 2x4 and use them as backers on the ends of those screws that are going through the ZIP osb. A little glue is all it needs, then you know those screws will never come loose if someone yanks the attachment, or pulls the hose to hard. (looking at video @14:07)
I guess it isn't as important as both hose bibs are downstairs where you probably don't plan to make it airtight, but keep those penetrations in mind for when you build the house to improve that blower door ACH score. In fact, you may still want to consider sealing that penetration better to give insects one less way to enter the garage.
I have a feeling that when they get the siding put on and calk around the bib braket that that will not be a problem.
Minor suggestion to Manufacture is to countersink holes for wall mount screws in exterior box to allow screws to lay flat to surface so Water sealing tape can lay flat instead of bumping out with air trapped.
We have a much simpler fix for this in Canada and northern States. 'Anti-syphon / non-freeze' hydrant. Come in lengths of 6-24". The valve is connected by an internal shaft all the way inside the house at the opposite end, when you turn it off, it drains all the water out of it through the regular outlet so there's no water in it to freeze and also doesn't make water run down the side of your house.
Yeah unfortunately I feel like this product @Stud Pack installed is much more overpriced gimmick of the traditional $50 woodford frost-free anti-siphon sillcock. In the Midwest it's all we use. And the perk is, you don't leak hardwater down the siding or house like this one is going to do, and adjusting the flow is very critical where this one looks like adjustment is not as incremental. I am sure they have a way to adjust flow with this one, right?
You boys sure have come a long way since that first outdoor patio light fixture install video!! Keep up the great work. House is looking awesome!!
I installed one of these outside my shop a few years ago and I love it. IF… you’re in that kind of hood then you don’t have to worry about strangers messing with/stealing water.
I've had mine for almost 4 years now and I haven't had an issue with it yet. I love how nice it looks vs seeing a regular spigot on the wall.
I too have replaced many, many frost free hose bibs. Not this brand. (Yet) People still forget to unhook the garden hose.
In case you forgot old man, The O-rings failed on the space shuttle because they froze. It was a bad day for the nation. But everyone's entitled and I like the way you step up to your mistakes. This is one of the best channels on RUclips, keep up the great work. I'm old too. HA.
I thought the same thing when he mentioned O-rings on the space shuttle 😬
Woodford is the affordable version of this. You can leave a hose on, with water under pressue, on a freezing day.
$20-30 for the standard OVAL handle unit. Thats how you know you jave the best unit.
With the old hosebib you mount an shut off valve upstream from the one the goes outside. Shut it to stop the flow of water, and open the hosebib and let the water drain out.
SP , I’m a “belt and suspenders” kind of guy when it comes to plumbing. Even with the O ring on the PEX fitting, I’d still put pipe dope in the threads!👍
My 3 girls are in there mids 20's but when we carved our pumpkins we used jig saw to make them.
If I recall correctly, they had a few problems with the o-rings on the spaceshuttle.
Oddly enough, it's because the o-rings degraded at low ambient temperatures.
That’s where this system will eventually fail. They’re depending a lot on those o-rings. Big mistake. Viton o-rings or rubber it doesn’t matter. They all will fail.
@@philweed1603true, however an O-ring is an easy part to replace compared to the whole hose bib.
@@andrewcarr2431 Agreed!
You should also add a hot water hose bib. Comes in handy when its cold out.
When my kids were young I used a jigsaw to carve pumpkins
Put one of these hose bibs on my narrow driveway of the house. One of the best set ups out there. Great choice!
Great tip on the socket extension!Thank you!
The fact that you guys are partnering with Bunker Branding is awesome. I love Matt over at Demo Ranch and to see what he's built is great for the community!
Never tried a vibrating saw, but I've been carving our pumpkins with a jigsaw for about 10 years, works fantastic... 👍
I just found your channel about a week ago when Matt did the video showing your house, and now I have been completely addicted. In the past week I watched over 50 of the videos and I have to say you, your son and your son-in-law are fantastic people. Your videos are engaging with a great dichotomy with each other and I really adore your channel. Very fun to watch and extremely knowledgeable. Keep pumping out the awesome videos. Wish I had a dad like you growing up, had to learn to carpentry on my own. Thanks for the wonderful entertainment.
Thanks toyman 👍💪
19:02 Arrrggghhhh, the ZIP tapes UP-SIDE-DOWN.
My OCD is currently going crazy, 😂😢😮.
Love 😍 the presentation.
Love the channel and content. I am surprised people still install hose bibs on the ground floor of their houses. I love a yard hydrant closer to where I'll actually use the hose/water. No penetrations into the envelope, no chances of it ever leaking into the house, no trip hazard if you hook a hose up to it, just all round better. Hose bibs are still good for a roof deck - like the ss extra freeze resistance didn't know it was 7x better !
Love the rant about people who are against proprietary parts!
I live near Chicago and have never had a standard hose bib freeze. As long as you remove the garden hose from the bib before it gets cold you won't have a problem. I am concerned that if I install the bib that you did, if the company goes out of business, where do I get a new connector? This is not for me. Love the build.
Thanks. Maybe I'll put one on my yacht. But at home I think I'm more comfortable with a bib with a VALVE, so i don't have to unplug the hose whenever not in use ( not taking a chance with it springing a leak at an inopportune moment) . In winter I'll take a shutoff on the other side of the wall, since you're still building an access panel anyway.
I lived on Long Island New York for 30 years and we've had some really cold winters where we had days of below freezing but never had our 2 outdoor hose connections freeze or leak or break. We had the old style knob that you had to turn a bunch of times to get water flowing. I guess we were lucky.
You guys are great!
They make traditional styled frost freeze hose bibs. However, I have these on my house outside of Austin, TX. I bought a bunch of the hose connectors in case the company ever goes out of business. I also made a little spot by the hose bib to store one adapter when it's not on the hose.
I still like the Woodford bibs. They seal inside the house, and aren't plastic. But, any solution depends on the water line being in the warm side of the house, which can be problematic if someone leaves the garage door open during a freeze. Ideally, there is some sensor to raise an alarm if that happens.
My house was built in '76 and the Woodford bibs just needed some new packing washers about 8 years ago and they work fine up here outside Chicago and have never frozen in the winter. They are doing a commercial for a problem that was solved decades ago....
WOW now that's the Cadillac of hose bibs 😮
I have been watching your remodels and love the blocking idea. One other place I wish I had blocking was in my washroom. I installed adjustable shelves and the studs were in the wrong place. Blocking would have helped a lot! Great channel!
The way the comments on this one had gone you would think the Stud Pack boys had announced a federal law mandating this product. Buy it if you think it is good, dont if you dont, really easy solution here.
I have also used a cutout like that to re-drill a hole saw hoke when I didnt have the previous sized saw to double up on my mandrel as a guide instead.
I liked the use of the spare piece of board cut to the correct angle to act as a guide. Personally I might have taken the lazy route and upsized the upper hole by 1/8" to allow for the slope 😂
Seriously!😅 Appreciate it Dustin 🍻
That hose bib looks sharp!
for those on a budget out there, and without local access to standard frost free sillcocks (or they dont work for you due to wall thickness limitations etc) , a poor mans way to achieve this with a regular hose bib, is to still install it on an angle, and install on the inside of the space, a ball valve shutoff with a built in drain bleed valve. the shutoff shuts off water inside the conditioned space, and the bleed valve lets air into the pipe so the water can drain out. However in this situation, you need access to those valves from inside. Also, the draining is done manually, instead of automatically every time you unscrew the hose. So it is not as smooth to use as the fancy hose bib, but cheaper and with off the shelf parts. And definitely a major upgrade from the standard hose bib with no way to drain it.
It can also be one with two standard shutoffs as well, one to shut off water and one to act as the bleed valve.
Another benefit aside from price, is you dont need the proprietary hose connector. It works with standard hose connection and all off the shelf parts.
I've lived in Canada for over 60 years and the outside temperature is below freezing for about 6 months (sometimes up to 9 months) every year, I've only ever seen 1 failed outdoor fawcet, and that was due to defective manufacturing, not freezing.
Been following for quite a while, this entire build and almost every video you’ve produced. Your videos have replaced Netflix for me. You guys are great hosts and Paul, you’re a living-breathing encyclopedia of information and techniques. You and Jordan deserve great success. Rad too. See you on the next one.
no idea how is he so smart
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It is called years of experience (learning, doing, messing up, fixing mess ups) and reading all the latest news on construction technology.
Book learning is great, but actually doing the work every day is when you actually learn.
@@a.g8517 Many years of life experience.
I put hose Aquor bibs on our house in houston when we rebuilt after Harvey. Been through 4 winters so far and love them. My only issue is our water connection to the house comes up outside the foundation and code required them to put a standard hose bib on it before it comes in the house!
Coach Paul in this episode is the Coach we all want to watch. No one explains construction like Coach Paul folks. I give this episode a perfect 10 🎉
One thing to note is that there are normal frost free hose bibs. Yes they may not be super fancy but as long as you disconnect the hose (which you have to do with this product every time), there will be no issues.
It looks like a neat product and definitely gives the house a premium look but I’m a fan of the old school Arrowhead frost free bibs. They also have Pex connections. Woodford can make some good ones too but the plastic on the newer ones is too flimsy.
I like being able to just throttle the hose to a trickle or have the ability to put an irrigation timer on it or a Y. If I ever sell my house I might put one on. Universal hose threads and quick connects don’t need to be improved upon in my opinion.
The proprietary parts bit was gold! You fellas are kicking butt. Thank you for the personality packed education!!
The frost free isn't as novel as you think it is -- might be due to regional differences, but where I've lived (northwest US) it's standard for hose bibs to embed the valve deep in the house. That just leaves the funky connector - which looks clean and does minimise issues caused by dirt/bugs, but isn't worth going out of my way to use it.
@@gorak9000 looks like its $15 to replace
@@gorak9000 and with a horse it's $0 to replace the engine. With a bonfire for cooking your food it's $0 to replace a burner. That's why you only see cars and stoves when someone is paid to promote them.
It's a different style hose bib. Strictly speaking you could build a hose to interface directly with this and do away with the replacement piece. Will it catch on long term? Who knows but your complaints against it are purely manufactured
@@jacobalberty It also prevents the people working on your neighbors house from stealing your water. I think it's worth it just based on how it looks. If you live in a nicer house and care about aesthetics it's a no brainer.
@@jacobalberty as someone who’s actually installed these, his complaints are correct. I would have left out the paid promotion comment because I don’t think that’s how stud pack operates. However these aren’t good products. They have potential. Right now you have no choice but full blast. I rarely turn my hose bibs on full blast. The other is you can’t repair them. The only way to fix them is to cut the drywall and remove them. They also acted like it’s this or a standard sill cock, that’s not true. There’s freeze proof hydrants. They can be repaired and if you do have to replace them, you can just unscrew them. I think if the they’d make two improvements these would be worthwhile. First make the threads on the tool finer and longer so you can limit the flow. Then make the front removable so you can take it apart and change o rings and washers. I’d never suggest any part to a customer that requires maintenance and that maintenance requires cutting drywall every time.
@@scotts4125 until a washer gets nicked or wears out and you have to cut open the wall to change it
Yeah, I live in North Texas, and that winter of a couple of years back made me a temporary "Stud Pack" kind of worker, because a pipe broke (feed the hose bib on the north side of the house, ironically.) And there were no contractors available, due to the demand AND folks still dealing with the pandemic.
I think it simply "built character", but it was indeed a major pain in the patooty!
Anyway, thanks for the content, I watch them all and enjoy them.
If you live in a cold climate every home will have a frost proof hose bib and have for 50 plus years - so nothing new here. But it looks like a nice device. Also in a cold climate you never put water lines in a exterior wall or soffit or attic or uninsulated crawl space as they will freeze solid when temps get below 32. Frozen lines can be thawed with a hair dryer if you can get to them. Appreciate yand like your videos 😮
They make frost free regular hose bibs that don't require the special adapter that I would always be loosing that have the same concept of shutting off in the wall
Frost free hose bibs have been around for a LONG time and don't require a fancy attachment to a standard hose to work. They're nice, but just not needed. When they go out of business, you'll be ripping it out to put in a regular frost free bib. Plus, the O-Rings! WTF! Way to over-complicate something. You'll be replacing O-Rings constantly....bullshit sponsored product placement.
Woodford just isn't sponsoring videos
Since the 'special adapter' STAYS on the hose, you'd have to lose the HOSE to lose the adapter. I have two bibs, bought two adapters. No muss, no fuss.
I DO wish they'd made the handles on the adapters more 'grippy' -- I've had to hang some rubber-ish gloves near the bib, cause when my hand gets wet (it's a HOSE, guys, of COURSE my hands get wet!) , I haven't the hand strength to UNscrew the doggoned thing! Put a glove on and it unscrews no problem!
@@1950Archangel Wait until the adapter cracks or the o-rings wear out and you have to change them. Fun times.
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"@1950Archangel Wait until the adapter cracks or the o-rings wear out and you have to change them. Fun times."
The "adapter" will be in a heated garage's interior wall. So exactly what would make it crack? And the o-ring will just be sitting there on the pipe with nothing moving to cause wear. So exactly what would cause it to wear out?
Thank you Studpack
Looks great. I would be a little concerned out the o-ring failing in the wall but I like making an access hatch if it does. Ez fix hopefully in the very far future
Good on you guys getting your merch through a local Texas business! Matt & Co. will always do right by you!!
I use my multi tool to carve pumpkins every year!
Your Dad is a NATURAL as a host of this channel!!!!
That's a cool faucet!
Gentlemen, I just found your channel recently. I love seeing a father teaching his son a skill that lasts a lifetime, and will provide for the next gen. Makes me miss my dad, but really cool to see.
Awesome to see you working with Matt and
Paul NOOoooo.... you need to visit high performance building supplies for the edpm gaskets. It keeps the air and vapor seal. The proclima ROFLEX 20 GASKET is i believe the size you want for small pipes, They also have ones for single wires and such. I also take a belt and suspenders approach, put a piece of stretch tape over the hole first, slice an X and push it in and over the osb so that any water won't rot it.
I love the idea of this, we are getting ready to build a house in NC and want to use these on our house. We dont see many freezing temps and due to this I almost always forget to cover the hose bids. Fortunately I have not had any damage yet but it's only a matter of time. So on the new house Im going this route.
This house is getting better and better. If I was building a house I’d be hanging in your every word. Thanks again for sharing this. This is a wonderful project and if someone’s smart this can be a great learning experience.
I didn't know a product like this existed. It is a cool design and it looks like Aquafor thought of everything. My gut tells me it's not cheap, but it does what it's supposed to do very well. I think that's money well spent since it's about choice. Great installation tutorial.
Bleeping out "mom" while your dad throws her under the bus! I'm dead😂
Thanks for showing the installation process in detail!
I love your little Foamposite there at the end the three of y'all building it for the first time well I sure hope it isn't the second time 😂😂
Yall are doing great. Dont let the haters get you down.
once I saw the ball valve I was sold
Smart move bleeping out “mom” 😂
yeah..😅You think we're safe?
Ha. Chicken
Oop's arbor lets you take a hole saw the size of the old hole and a hole saw the new size you need. Works great saved me a lot of time. Also Bosch's has a new hammer drill with a level that you can program to the angle you need.
Nice. I would probably use expansion foam inside that bracket.
Pretty Cool! Pricey but something to think about especially without needing the insulated caps.
I have been thinking about those for a decade. I will eventually do it as I live in CT.
I know Matt risinger oushes these hose bibs but I can’t get on board and think y’all are making a mistake. I’ve installed these a couple of times and realized these issues. First is ease of use. You have to keep track of a tool to turn it on/off. Also there’s no way to change the flow. It’s either on or off. Then it’s bad when using a hose. Because once you click that thing in it’s on, you have to connect the tool to the hose first and depending on the situation it’s a pain to twist it in. I also don’t like to tell someone to buy extra parts to fill a bucket. The second thing is replacement. It will eventually fail. There’s no way to access the washers. Most freeze proof hydrants you can unscrew the front to repair it. However these are solid so you have to replace it. Then when replacing it, try wires no way to do it without cutting drywall. Because of its shape you can unscrew it so you’d have to disconnect it from the back. Im the video, you act as if the option is aquor or a standard sill cock. That’s not true. They make freeze proof hydrants that screw the same the aquor does except you can unscrew it as well.
I guess if you do go this route there’s some upsides not mentioned, mainly due to the cover. Not only does it look better with that cover versus a sill cock, there’s nothing stuck out that you can hit. I just worked on a hose bib that stuck out because they had to put a bonding wire on it. This made the end stick out almost 6” from the wall so naturally it was bent because someone hit it.
All o-rings will fail. Even these that they installed. They’ll be crying when it happens down the road. Keep it simple. Traditional method is safer.
@@philweed1603 yep, I don’t know why they don’t make them like commercial wall hydrants where you can take the front off and pull all the parts
After some though I think a few design changes could make these worthwhile. I’d make the threads on the adapter piece finer and longer. This way you might could partially open it so it’s not always full blast. I’d also make the front removable to service it. I think with these two changes, I wouldn’t have an issue with them. I would never recommend a product to a customer that requires regular maintenance and they maintenance requires cutting into walls.
Oh, that's where the 10mm socket went! 😂
15:58 Sad Challenger noises
Let’s hope your spigot doesn’t meet a similar fate!
It just keeps on getting better!
Drywall handsaw works great for pumpkin carving as well.
i need more content! Love this stuff! Must Binge more!
I live in California so I don't need to worry about freezes, but I'm getting that system anyway. I loved it.
I like hose bib adapters. The orings will go bad but they look super easy to replace with a $1 oring kit. I use hose quick adapters and a bit of lithium grease keeps those mating surfaces prepped.
Richard Tretheway on Ask This Old House did a story about a system like this. If this the same manufacture they appear to upgraded this. You gentleman keep nailing your videos. Keep up the great videos and work!
I have one of these installed last year. I have to give Aquor credit for a great invention. My back Hose bib always froze here in the Northeast area. Since installing this, NOT ONCE did Aquor ever freeze as it drained the water straight out. I wand to replace my front hose bib but it is behind my cabinet and on BRICK Overlay.
Awesome outdoor hose hook up from Aquor.
Dear Stud Pack, As someone who lives in the northeast I know all about freezing pipes. In order to make sure the hose doesn't freeze I have an easy free solution......shut the water off to the hose, drain it, and store the hose for the winter!!! So many people up here don't do that and it costs them thousands.......love how the garage is going!!!!
this, so much simpler.
These hose bibs never have to be drained, and you can keep the water running all the way through winter if need be.
neither do normal deep set hose bibs (for cold environments, where the seat is 12" back or so). super common in every house in freezing areas. (since the old style ones long ago froze up)@@TeflonBilly426
Houston, Texas rarely gets to freezing and when it does it is usually a soft freeze that does not last very long. Usually the heat escaping through the wall is enough to prevent faucets from freezing if you put a cover over them. And most of the time, the cover is never necessary.
My parents live in the Panhandle where it gets colder longer than in Houston. They have the old style hose bibs on the house they had built in 1973 and have never covered them and never had a problem with water freezing. Even two years ago when we had that extremely cold freezing weather for a couple of weeks. Of course our electric generator company is not controlled by the quasi-governmental agency like most of Texas down there is so we had no problem with losing power because wind generators froze up and power plants went down.
I am sold! Our pipes freeze every winter. It is a nightmare. Thank you for sharing this awesome product. Next step for me, convincing the hubby. Lol. Job security. Teehee!
it may be the first time building it, but I'm guessing Paul has "rebuilt" very part of the build in the past. A friend of mine once said "Experience is what you get after having needed it the most" And Paul's experience vault is practically bottomless. Kudos to the three of you men ( and the women behind who support you all!)
Anti-siphon frostproof sillcocks work great in freezing weather, just as long as the homeowner remembers to remove the hose. Before the temperature drops below freezing. Making sure that the sillcock also pitches down to the outside so it drains completely, just don’t twist the hell out of the handle and screw it up!!
I hope at the end of the garage/apartment build you will go thru all the costs involved. It is so epic of a place.
Perhaps a one person elevator for Paul and wife when they move in in their later years.
Don't forget the central vacuum plumbing too :)
I live in the very cold NW. If I ever have to replace my hose bibs these are definitely on the list.
In the Southwest we would unhook and drain the hose in summer after each use, because the water would be scalding hot and ruin the hose.
Cool, i want... Will be ordering 2 and yes , I will do it myself...
hey guys, another great video! That hose bib system is great but needs a better, higher-quality handle for opening / closing the valve. Something like a brass knob rather than that plastic blue handle. Otherwise that is a totally genius system and I'll be installing it in my new build. Also, one thing I have to mention, I know you probably didn't mean it in a negative way, but at 15:58 your quip about the Space Shuttle and o-rings was not so good. You may recall that it was the SRB o-rings that were infamously found to be the cause of the Challenger disaster. So o-rings were, in fact, not good enough for the Space Shuttle, and sadly Challenger was the result. Again, I know you only had good intentions but maybe avoid that reference in the future. All the best!