Installing a Modern Outdoor Faucet - Ultimate Home Winterization
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If you're planning on putting in an access panel anyway, might be a good idea to put in an inline ball valve too - that way you can shut it off for service. This is how I shut off exterior water for winter up here in cold-ass Canada.
Yup! This should be code everywhere!
yeah cuz you're going to need them to replace those eight hundred dollars hose bibs in a couple years.
Frost proof valves were and are common up here in NJ. I use ball valves inside. Shut valve, leave hose bib open.
I centrally connected all my hose bibs to an air hose blowout valve. Turn off the water inside. Shut them all off inside. Turn on all the faucets and sprayers outside. Hook up the air compressor and turn on open the valve. Then turn on each faucet from inside and let the water blow out. Close that valve and move to the next one. 30 minutes later all my hoses and sprayers are empty and dry. I disconnect them and store them in the shed for the winter
I have a master shut off for all outdoor water.... seeing this reminded me to turn it off
If I recall correctly, they had a few problems with the o-rings on the spaceshuttle.
Oddly enough, it's because the o-rings degraded at low ambient temperatures.
That’s where this system will eventually fail. They’re depending a lot on those o-rings. Big mistake. Viton o-rings or rubber it doesn’t matter. They all will fail.
@@philweed1603true, however an O-ring is an easy part to replace compared to the whole hose bib.
@@andrewcarr2431 Agreed!
You can also combine 2 hole-saw bits, one smaller bit that fits the existing hole, and a larger diameter bit for the new hole. Saves you from having to make a template.
I have a few different hole saws and this “trick” doesn’t work with any of them. When one hole saw is on, there’s not enough threads to get on another one. A template is quick and easy to make and it always works.
Yes, you need a deep threaded mandrel or hole saws with thinner bases to do this, it really depends on the manufacturer!
@madperfect
Just duck tape a couple of drills together and make both holes simultaneously.
One design improvement on the hose system is a kickout on the bottom side of the front plate. To break the water tension so that it doesn't drizzle back to the siding when you pull the hose out. Even though you'll have it all waterproof, always nice to divert the water away from the siding, straight to the ground.
Paul's "proprietary parts" rant was the best / funniest part of this video!!! Haha....
I love these Stud Pack videos. Keep up the great work!
Yeah it was funny, though I'm not sure I completely agree with him either. If my hose or grill or car needs repaired, I know that most of the parts (in some cases, all of the parts) can be found off-the-shelf at general retailers. If the only place I can buy a hose adapter is directly from the store, and the only brand I can find is the company that makes it, that's a different situation entirely. I'd hate to have one break on a Saturday afternoon, then there's no way to use my hose for a week. Especially since the only upside seems to be aesthetics unless I'm missing something.
I guess it isn't as important as both hose bibs are downstairs where you probably don't plan to make it airtight, but keep those penetrations in mind for when you build the house to improve that blower door ACH score. In fact, you may still want to consider sealing that penetration better to give insects one less way to enter the garage.
I have a feeling that when they get the siding put on and calk around the bib braket that that will not be a problem.
I too have replaced many, many frost free hose bibs. Not this brand. (Yet) People still forget to unhook the garden hose.
Guys, I think I would grab a couple scrap 2x4 and use them as backers on the ends of those screws that are going through the ZIP osb. A little glue is all it needs, then you know those screws will never come loose if someone yanks the attachment, or pulls the hose to hard. (looking at video @14:07)
Minor suggestion to Manufacture is to countersink holes for wall mount screws in exterior box to allow screws to lay flat to surface so Water sealing tape can lay flat instead of bumping out with air trapped.
We have a much simpler fix for this in Canada and northern States. 'Anti-syphon / non-freeze' hydrant. Come in lengths of 6-24". The valve is connected by an internal shaft all the way inside the house at the opposite end, when you turn it off, it drains all the water out of it through the regular outlet so there's no water in it to freeze and also doesn't make water run down the side of your house.
Yeah unfortunately I feel like this product @Stud Pack installed is much more overpriced gimmick of the traditional $50 woodford frost-free anti-siphon sillcock. In the Midwest it's all we use. And the perk is, you don't leak hardwater down the siding or house like this one is going to do, and adjusting the flow is very critical where this one looks like adjustment is not as incremental. I am sure they have a way to adjust flow with this one, right?
Hold it, Paul.
At 15:58, you said "If an o-ring is good enough for the space shuttle, it's good enough for our water faucet."
I don't know about you, but I remember a space shuttle (Challenger, 1986) came apart a little over a minute after launch, killing all souls on board. The point of failure: an o-ring.
Maybe a better analogy going forward would be in order.
I know you didn't mean anything by it, and a lot of shuttles have gone into space without catastrophic failure, but still.
Other than that, love the video, and especially the hydrants. I learn something probably every time I watch.
Canadian tradesmen here. This is a solved problem.
The freezing problem has been solved for several decades, with a standard part that costs less then $30USD
This part, commonly referred to as sillcock, frost-free or freeze-proof faucet, also places the water shut off seal 12" into the house.
It has few moving parts, and all moving?/wearing parts (eg O-ring) can be easily and quickly replaced from outside, without ever disturbing your seal from the faucet to the house.
But this one is very pretty.
I tend to see very southern people shilling this, as they don't know it's a solved problem.
Yeah sillcocks exist here too. This is just a new novel way to do things, as he explained in the video. It looks neat and clean. You’re not keeping old appliances in modern homes even though they’re cheaper and literally do the same job.
Recommendation for you... I lived in Texas for over 15 years and I learned that Winter is the rainy season. I suggest that you finish the exterior before spending too much time on the interior. Spend the wet season doing the inside stuff. PS - maybe stage your insulation i& sheetrock n the inside dry space and save that work for rainy days when you can't work on the exterior.
With the old hosebib you mount an shut off valve upstream from the one the goes outside. Shut it to stop the flow of water, and open the hosebib and let the water drain out.
I still like the Woodford bibs. They seal inside the house, and aren't plastic. But, any solution depends on the water line being in the warm side of the house, which can be problematic if someone leaves the garage door open during a freeze. Ideally, there is some sensor to raise an alarm if that happens.
My house was built in '76 and the Woodford bibs just needed some new packing washers about 8 years ago and they work fine up here outside Chicago and have never frozen in the winter. They are doing a commercial for a problem that was solved decades ago....
They make frost free regular hose bibs that don't require the special adapter that I would always be loosing that have the same concept of shutting off in the wall
Frost free hose bibs have been around for a LONG time and don't require a fancy attachment to a standard hose to work. They're nice, but just not needed. When they go out of business, you'll be ripping it out to put in a regular frost free bib. Plus, the O-Rings! WTF! Way to over-complicate something. You'll be replacing O-Rings constantly....bullshit sponsored product placement.
Woodford just isn't sponsoring videos
Since the 'special adapter' STAYS on the hose, you'd have to lose the HOSE to lose the adapter. I have two bibs, bought two adapters. No muss, no fuss.
I DO wish they'd made the handles on the adapters more 'grippy' -- I've had to hang some rubber-ish gloves near the bib, cause when my hand gets wet (it's a HOSE, guys, of COURSE my hands get wet!) , I haven't the hand strength to UNscrew the doggoned thing! Put a glove on and it unscrews no problem!
@@1950Archangel Wait until the adapter cracks or the o-rings wear out and you have to change them. Fun times.
@@GrammarPoliceInvestigations
"@1950Archangel Wait until the adapter cracks or the o-rings wear out and you have to change them. Fun times."
The "adapter" will be in a heated garage's interior wall. So exactly what would make it crack? And the o-ring will just be sitting there on the pipe with nothing moving to cause wear. So exactly what would cause it to wear out?
I live near Chicago and have never had a standard hose bib freeze. As long as you remove the garden hose from the bib before it gets cold you won't have a problem. I am concerned that if I install the bib that you did, if the company goes out of business, where do I get a new connector? This is not for me. Love the build.
Smart move bleeping out “mom” 😂
yeah..😅You think we're safe?
Ha. Chicken
These videos are what I watch instead of tv. Good job fellas
Looks great. I would be a little concerned out the o-ring failing in the wall but I like making an access hatch if it does. Ez fix hopefully in the very far future
Man, I hope you never lose or crack that plastic adapter.
Also, how do you drain the water out of the hose once you disconnect that adapter? A little overkill for a fricken water hose.
You do realize a hose has two open ends, just drain the water out of the other end or take the adapter off. I do agree it is over kill and over price alternative.
Dear Stud Pack, As someone who lives in the northeast I know all about freezing pipes. In order to make sure the hose doesn't freeze I have an easy free solution......shut the water off to the hose, drain it, and store the hose for the winter!!! So many people up here don't do that and it costs them thousands.......love how the garage is going!!!!
this, so much simpler.
These hose bibs never have to be drained, and you can keep the water running all the way through winter if need be.
neither do normal deep set hose bibs (for cold environments, where the seat is 12" back or so). super common in every house in freezing areas. (since the old style ones long ago froze up)@@TeflonBilly426
Houston, Texas rarely gets to freezing and when it does it is usually a soft freeze that does not last very long. Usually the heat escaping through the wall is enough to prevent faucets from freezing if you put a cover over them. And most of the time, the cover is never necessary.
My parents live in the Panhandle where it gets colder longer than in Houston. They have the old style hose bibs on the house they had built in 1973 and have never covered them and never had a problem with water freezing. Even two years ago when we had that extremely cold freezing weather for a couple of weeks. Of course our electric generator company is not controlled by the quasi-governmental agency like most of Texas down there is so we had no problem with losing power because wind generators froze up and power plants went down.
SP , I’m a “belt and suspenders” kind of guy when it comes to plumbing. Even with the O ring on the PEX fitting, I’d still put pipe dope in the threads!👍
When my kids were young I used a jigsaw to carve pumpkins
The frost free isn't as novel as you think it is -- might be due to regional differences, but where I've lived (northwest US) it's standard for hose bibs to embed the valve deep in the house. That just leaves the funky connector - which looks clean and does minimise issues caused by dirt/bugs, but isn't worth going out of my way to use it.
@@gorak9000 looks like its $15 to replace
@@gorak9000 and with a horse it's $0 to replace the engine. With a bonfire for cooking your food it's $0 to replace a burner. That's why you only see cars and stoves when someone is paid to promote them.
It's a different style hose bib. Strictly speaking you could build a hose to interface directly with this and do away with the replacement piece. Will it catch on long term? Who knows but your complaints against it are purely manufactured
@@jacobalberty It also prevents the people working on your neighbors house from stealing your water. I think it's worth it just based on how it looks. If you live in a nicer house and care about aesthetics it's a no brainer.
@@jacobalberty as someone who’s actually installed these, his complaints are correct. I would have left out the paid promotion comment because I don’t think that’s how stud pack operates. However these aren’t good products. They have potential. Right now you have no choice but full blast. I rarely turn my hose bibs on full blast. The other is you can’t repair them. The only way to fix them is to cut the drywall and remove them. They also acted like it’s this or a standard sill cock, that’s not true. There’s freeze proof hydrants. They can be repaired and if you do have to replace them, you can just unscrew them. I think if the they’d make two improvements these would be worthwhile. First make the threads on the tool finer and longer so you can limit the flow. Then make the front removable so you can take it apart and change o rings and washers. I’d never suggest any part to a customer that requires maintenance and that maintenance requires cutting drywall every time.
@@scotts4125 until a washer gets nicked or wears out and you have to cut open the wall to change it
Hell yeah I’m so glad y’all chose bunker branding.
You boys sure have come a long way since that first outdoor patio light fixture install video!! Keep up the great work. House is looking awesome!!
Thanks. Maybe I'll put one on my yacht. But at home I think I'm more comfortable with a bib with a VALVE, so i don't have to unplug the hose whenever not in use ( not taking a chance with it springing a leak at an inopportune moment) . In winter I'll take a shutoff on the other side of the wall, since you're still building an access panel anyway.
I installed one of these outside my shop a few years ago and I love it. IF… you’re in that kind of hood then you don’t have to worry about strangers messing with/stealing water.
Great tip on the socket extension!Thank you!
Oop's arbor lets you take a hole saw the size of the old hole and a hole saw the new size you need. Works great saved me a lot of time. Also Bosch's has a new hammer drill with a level that you can program to the angle you need.
Do you remember the space shuttle Challenger that EXPLODED killing all crew??
O-RING FAILURE
Hopefully this one never goes bad
I have been watching your remodels and love the blocking idea. One other place I wish I had blocking was in my washroom. I installed adjustable shelves and the studs were in the wrong place. Blocking would have helped a lot! Great channel!
I lived on Long Island New York for 30 years and we've had some really cold winters where we had days of below freezing but never had our 2 outdoor hose connections freeze or leak or break. We had the old style knob that you had to turn a bunch of times to get water flowing. I guess we were lucky.
Put one of these hose bibs on my narrow driveway of the house. One of the best set ups out there. Great choice!
The way the comments on this one had gone you would think the Stud Pack boys had announced a federal law mandating this product. Buy it if you think it is good, dont if you dont, really easy solution here.
I have also used a cutout like that to re-drill a hole saw hoke when I didnt have the previous sized saw to double up on my mandrel as a guide instead.
I liked the use of the spare piece of board cut to the correct angle to act as a guide. Personally I might have taken the lazy route and upsized the upper hole by 1/8" to allow for the slope 😂
Seriously!😅 Appreciate it Dustin 🍻
In case you forgot old man, The O-rings failed on the space shuttle because they froze. It was a bad day for the nation. But everyone's entitled and I like the way you step up to your mistakes. This is one of the best channels on RUclips, keep up the great work. I'm old too. HA.
I thought the same thing when he mentioned O-rings on the space shuttle 😬
One thing to note is that there are normal frost free hose bibs. Yes they may not be super fancy but as long as you disconnect the hose (which you have to do with this product every time), there will be no issues.
It looks like a neat product and definitely gives the house a premium look but I’m a fan of the old school Arrowhead frost free bibs. They also have Pex connections. Woodford can make some good ones too but the plastic on the newer ones is too flimsy.
I like being able to just throttle the hose to a trickle or have the ability to put an irrigation timer on it or a Y. If I ever sell my house I might put one on. Universal hose threads and quick connects don’t need to be improved upon in my opinion.
Awesome outdoor hose hook up from Aquor.
@StudPack As you know, reparability is a major factor! In fact, you are mixing up proprietary and standardized. Most things we use are proprietary, but most are alsy standardized and accepted way of doing things. Aquor is not standardized in construction industry or even in boat or RV. They have been in the market for many years. Yet, parts are not readily available except if you call them. That means that they may decide not to have parts at any time and you will be stuck replacing the whole really expensive thing. The advantage with proprietary but standardized part is the fact that I can buy it anywhere (even on amazon) and replace the entire internal assembly with handle and all rubber gaskets for a fraction of cost of new and without ripping up everything. It is "less work, less money and less garbage" solution that effectively creates a brand new hose bib. In fact, i've done just that this summer for my 122 frost free hose bib.
That being said, Aquor is a cool modern solution that should become standard in North America one day... I doubt it though...
I love the idea of this, we are getting ready to build a house in NC and want to use these on our house. We dont see many freezing temps and due to this I almost always forget to cover the hose bids. Fortunately I have not had any damage yet but it's only a matter of time. So on the new house Im going this route.
I know Matt risinger oushes these hose bibs but I can’t get on board and think y’all are making a mistake. I’ve installed these a couple of times and realized these issues. First is ease of use. You have to keep track of a tool to turn it on/off. Also there’s no way to change the flow. It’s either on or off. Then it’s bad when using a hose. Because once you click that thing in it’s on, you have to connect the tool to the hose first and depending on the situation it’s a pain to twist it in. I also don’t like to tell someone to buy extra parts to fill a bucket. The second thing is replacement. It will eventually fail. There’s no way to access the washers. Most freeze proof hydrants you can unscrew the front to repair it. However these are solid so you have to replace it. Then when replacing it, try wires no way to do it without cutting drywall. Because of its shape you can unscrew it so you’d have to disconnect it from the back. Im the video, you act as if the option is aquor or a standard sill cock. That’s not true. They make freeze proof hydrants that screw the same the aquor does except you can unscrew it as well.
I guess if you do go this route there’s some upsides not mentioned, mainly due to the cover. Not only does it look better with that cover versus a sill cock, there’s nothing stuck out that you can hit. I just worked on a hose bib that stuck out because they had to put a bonding wire on it. This made the end stick out almost 6” from the wall so naturally it was bent because someone hit it.
All o-rings will fail. Even these that they installed. They’ll be crying when it happens down the road. Keep it simple. Traditional method is safer.
@@philweed1603 yep, I don’t know why they don’t make them like commercial wall hydrants where you can take the front off and pull all the parts
After some though I think a few design changes could make these worthwhile. I’d make the threads on the adapter piece finer and longer. This way you might could partially open it so it’s not always full blast. I’d also make the front removable to service it. I think with these two changes, I wouldn’t have an issue with them. I would never recommend a product to a customer that requires regular maintenance and they maintenance requires cutting into walls.
Looks great. I like that drain. Told my son about it because he is getting a house built in Kilgore and it freezes there in the wintertime.
Thanks for showing the installation process in detail!
Thank you Studpack
I have been thinking about those for a decade. I will eventually do it as I live in CT.
Anti-siphon frostproof sillcocks work great in freezing weather, just as long as the homeowner remembers to remove the hose. Before the temperature drops below freezing. Making sure that the sillcock also pitches down to the outside so it drains completely, just don’t twist the hell out of the handle and screw it up!!
I have one of these installed last year. I have to give Aquor credit for a great invention. My back Hose bib always froze here in the Northeast area. Since installing this, NOT ONCE did Aquor ever freeze as it drained the water straight out. I wand to replace my front hose bib but it is behind my cabinet and on BRICK Overlay.
I live in the very cold NW. If I ever have to replace my hose bibs these are definitely on the list.
I lived in Spring just north of Houston when the freeze hit. We actually moved in the weekend before it hit. Wish we had those for sure.
Love the channel guys. I check for new content twice a week. Patience always pays off since yall are busy building a dream garage. Wanna build mine next lol
Great to see you guys again!!
I’ve seen these house hydrants before. They’re in intriguing. I don’t have but one hose bib to the outside pex right to the outside. Our winters are usually mild so I don’t worry about freezing. I can shutoff the water in the basement to my pex open the valve and drain it.
You guys are great!
They make traditional styled frost freeze hose bibs. However, I have these on my house outside of Austin, TX. I bought a bunch of the hose connectors in case the company ever goes out of business. I also made a little spot by the hose bib to store one adapter when it's not on the hose.
Yeah, I live in North Texas, and that winter of a couple of years back made me a temporary "Stud Pack" kind of worker, because a pipe broke (feed the hose bib on the north side of the house, ironically.) And there were no contractors available, due to the demand AND folks still dealing with the pandemic.
I think it simply "built character", but it was indeed a major pain in the patooty!
Anyway, thanks for the content, I watch them all and enjoy them.
I learn so much for my owen house renov. Thanks a lot guys great video🤩
Love the channel and content. I am surprised people still install hose bibs on the ground floor of their houses. I love a yard hydrant closer to where I'll actually use the hose/water. No penetrations into the envelope, no chances of it ever leaking into the house, no trip hazard if you hook a hose up to it, just all round better. Hose bibs are still good for a roof deck - like the ss extra freeze resistance didn't know it was 7x better !
I like hose bib adapters. The orings will go bad but they look super easy to replace with a $1 oring kit. I use hose quick adapters and a bit of lithium grease keeps those mating surfaces prepped.
Love the rant about people who are against proprietary parts!
Brilliant trade knowledge!
Never tried a vibrating saw, but I've been carving our pumpkins with a jigsaw for about 10 years, works fantastic... 👍
I bought the round V1 about 2 years ago. I would comment on how well they work, but it's one of the projects that never gets done.
Been following for quite a while, this entire build and almost every video you’ve produced. Your videos have replaced Netflix for me. You guys are great hosts and Paul, you’re a living-breathing encyclopedia of information and techniques. You and Jordan deserve great success. Rad too. See you on the next one.
no idea how is he so smart
@@a.g8517
It is called years of experience (learning, doing, messing up, fixing mess ups) and reading all the latest news on construction technology.
Book learning is great, but actually doing the work every day is when you actually learn.
@@a.g8517 Many years of life experience.
I've lived in Canada for over 60 years and the outside temperature is below freezing for about 6 months (sometimes up to 9 months) every year, I've only ever seen 1 failed outdoor fawcet, and that was due to defective manufacturing, not freezing.
Richard Tretheway on Ask This Old House did a story about a system like this. If this the same manufacture they appear to upgraded this. You gentleman keep nailing your videos. Keep up the great videos and work!
I love your little Foamposite there at the end the three of y'all building it for the first time well I sure hope it isn't the second time 😂😂
Woodford is the affordable version of this. You can leave a hose on, with water under pressue, on a freezing day.
$20-30 for the standard OVAL handle unit. Thats how you know you jave the best unit.
Hey Paul and Mr. J , to get the dry wall upstairs how about this. load it up on the back of your pick em up truck , drive thru the garage and past about 8 feet or so, then build two pieces of scaffolding say at 6 feet or so for the first one then the second one about 8 foot tall then pass each piece up to the 2nd floor patio to go right thru the slider.
@fryman 1369. I have a “suspicion” that they got the drywall upstairs all ready.
I watched the video to the end. I caught their “Easter egg”. Notice the third window (on the right) is “uninstalled”. So….since Stud Pack does such quality work, then why else would the window be removed? 🤔
21:05 good catch
IF I had teachers like Paul when I was in school, I would have LOVED school!! Great work gents!!
Pretty Cool! Pricey but something to think about especially without needing the insulated caps.
Cool, i want... Will be ordering 2 and yes , I will do it myself...
Great hose bib design!
Drywall handsaw works great for pumpkin carving as well.
You should also add a hot water hose bib. Comes in handy when its cold out.
Thanks! I've wanted to try this hose bib. BTW, I've used a jigsaw to carve pumpkins for years!
awesome video
That hose bib looks sharp!
It just keeps on getting better!
Super clean looking hose bib.
That's a cool faucet!
15:58 Sad Challenger noises
Let’s hope your spigot doesn’t meet a similar fate!
excellent jig sir
My 3 girls are in there mids 20's but when we carved our pumpkins we used jig saw to make them.
i need more content! Love this stuff! Must Binge more!
Awesome install! Great work Gentleman.
You guys rock.
Oh, that's where the 10mm socket went! 😂
I live in California so I don't need to worry about freezes, but I'm getting that system anyway. I loved it.
The multi tool works great for pumpkins. It does shoot juices all over. A bit messy.
Hey Paul, you should check out the Crucible GoDrilla! It's a drill extension designed for lining up holes between the arms and seats of chairs with no runout. You know it's rock solid if it's good enough for furniture guys!
I just looked it up... really great product but it looks like it's 1/4" maximum shank diameter on each end. Maybe they'll make a larger one??
@@StudPack Ah! I didn't realize the Spyder Hole Saw used a 3/8" shank. Makes sense though, to support all that metal and ejection system!
That looks awesome! I'm in Minnesota so have the frost-free bibs on my house. I could go to the basement to shut off the water for extra security, but my knees don't like me to do that.
Next, I'd like to see something like that design so I can replace the outside vinyl dryer vent birds have destroyed (why?!). The louvered types seem they'd be impossible to clean of caked-on lint. The current trapdoor style is impossible to clean. (Laundry room is off my main-floor kitchen.)
I have had both. The louver style I find easier to deal with. The louvers have pins that allow it to open 90°. Because they are plastic, slightly bending it outward in the middle, the pins slide out of the holes. I usually remover the middle one, clean off them all off, put the middle one back in place. I usually don't have to do this but once a year or so. I also have rigid duct to the exhaust vent. It doesn't slow the air flow down like the flexible did, causing lint and moisture to be trapped in the pipe.
I live in Central New York and it freezes here for like 4 months. I have 2 outdoor facets. I used brass ball valves on my shut-offs I hate those twist ones. I have to shut them off around the end of October in the basement and turn them back on in April.
House looking fantastic 😍
Thanks Michaellee 😎
One recommendation I would do is to put anti knocking in the spigot systems because even though it won't make a major difference it will hopefully prevent problems internally over time.
I assume you’re referring to hammer arrestors. I don’t think it needs them. They’re only required on self closing valves. Plus pex can handle water hammer much better because it’s flexible and can’t handle the wave
Yup, I agree! It's not needed with Pex system as long as pipes are well secured.
@@joshcowart2446 Good point. And thanks for clarifying I forgot the term. I also guess you are right, I have worked on dozens of jobsites where we installed them as precautionary.
@@ronlovell5374 I also agree. I liked both your comments
on that socket setup that you have , you can also tape it with duct tape, so that you will not loose it in the wall . if it was not for it being drilled in the garage .
WOW now that's the Cadillac of hose bibs 😮
I am sold! Our pipes freeze every winter. It is a nightmare. Thank you for sharing this awesome product. Next step for me, convincing the hubby. Lol. Job security. Teehee!
Nice. I would probably use expansion foam inside that bracket.
Yall are doing great. Dont let the haters get you down.
Don't forget the central vacuum plumbing too :)