The thing that hits me the most is that the person in command of the radio on the ms estonia still had the kindness to say good morning to the silja europa when he know they were going to sink in minutes
@@Synthematix You are so funny, has anyone ever told you that? How funny you are? With your funny jokes, like "they were all probably smoking weed." You should be in comedy. Because you're a joke.
so far i know they might have not completely realized that it was as bad as it was because they couldnt see the front of the ship from the bridge so they didnt realize they had a massive hole in the front
@@brinken3034 Well... After WWII not many stayed. Since 1991 maybe a few but as a Swede I'd say that time is over. Saaremaa/Ösel is not Swedish anymore.
The captain of Estonia was a real Captain who went down with the boat. The last thing he did was to honk the horn as the last of the ship was about to go under water, just to alarm/inform the people on deck(read side of the boat) that it was time to jump in to the water, to not get draged down by the stream. He was already under water when he did it.
Or did he survive? He was reported as a survivor the first days and recognized by people who knew him. Even in footage after the ship had sunk people recognized him..
@@fragman4521 in the final stages of the accident, third mate Andres Tammes and first mate Tormi Ainsalu were seen leaving the command bridge. Arvo Andresson, chief mate Juha Härma and fourth mate Kaimar Kikas remained on the bridge and died.
@@Bawamba The shipping company declared the commander as rescued and the hospital declared 7-8 crew members as rescued, but all of these were later reported as missing instead. Very strange. One of the women rescued apparently used her nickname which nobody else shouldn't have known about. Also the same woman or her sister who also was supposed to have been rescued from the start called home one year later, but the call got disconnected..
I was six years old when she sank. I remember saying goodbye to my neighbour the day before she sank. And I remember never seeing my neighbour again. It was my first memory and feeling of death in my life.
its extremely heartbreaking to realize that during this video the radiator of ms estonia drowned, just minutes after after he says 'the situation is looking really bad here'
Given what happened there’s actually quite a bit of conspiracy theories. Mainly that the ship was carrying weapons (Sweden isn’t exactly known to deal with the best people when it comes to selling arms). The government admitted that it used to carry weapons but it didn’t this time. All of that has been put down hard by official investigation though and the site was declared a grave at sea. So none of the bodies were recovered instead covered up in cement.
Maximilian Lagerholm actually the cementing was stopped quite quickly - But it’s still very... uncomfortable that smith tak b.v. Was involved - being a company that is specialized in disarming and getting back radioactive stuff from water and seas. And then those trucks that entered the ship right before departure. And then the most cruel part - the story of Kalev vatras“ - oh man I’m getting goosebumps just from thinking a out it o_o
I cant imagine how scary it was. Being in pitch-black while the ship is fastly going underwater. I cannot even imagine this in my wordt nightmares. I am sorry for all the people who lost their close ones and for those who lived through this disaster.
I travelled on MS Estonia three times, last time I forgot to return my cabin key,so when I got back to my student dorm at the time I just put the key away. Then a year later I realized what I had lying in my drawer. To this day, I still have that key on the same bunch as all my other keys, ocasionally looking at it. Cabin 1029 it says. Creepy one might say, but it makes certain things in life a bit more palpable to me.
All these seamen doing their duty with relaying emergency radio traffic on this highly trafficed ferry line makes me feel such awe. They all sound so cold and ready for what is happening, eventhough they had no idea of what was going on. You can tell some of the men have been just woken up. As far as I can tell, a few of them switch between Swedish, Finnish, Estonian and maybe even English without mistakes. They manage to relay position in one go, and are so quick in relaying new information (such as the position, the red flare, the visual contact etc.) None of them hesitate for even a second in this awful weather, in vessels FULL of other civilians to look after. Im in awe of the works of ALL the crews. It was an absolute shit situation in all ways, with a shitty outcome no one could control, though I am 100% sure the crews and captains mustered all their experience and courage to try to turn the situation around and do as much as possible. As a Swede I'm proud to have Finnish and Estonian neighbours.
This comment made me emotional. I think you are 100% correct on the matter. As Finnish person who has lived in Sweden, now in Finland, I too am proud of our neighboring countries.
Ohh yes, There are several cuts! The time between Estonia's first mayday and the arrival of Mariella is about 50 minutes. The mayday went out at 01:22 circa- Mariella arrived about 02:12
Kiitos, käre bror. When it comes to icehockey there is no mercy. Unless we (a highly unlikely scenario, I know) we're already out. Then Finland is my team of choice.
Yeah, I saw the radio traffic video when the captain was waiting for a taxi, and coast guard tried to order him back on the ship. What a fucking failure of a human being.
@@Alex-qu3uu Why would taking an irresponsible risk make him a coward? An idiot, yes, but certainly not a coward. And while it may have contributed, it wasn't the Captain's fault alone. There were design flaws in the ship, and also some damage and rust to the locks and hinges of the bow visor, which caused the sinking by breaking off in the stormy sea.
@@Alex-qu3uu NO Bow Visor should break off a Ship, no matter how "fast" the Ship was travelling. Captain could not prevent that from happening. He is blameless.
Voices: Second mate Tormi Ainsalu (Estonia, first voice) Third mate Andres Tammes (Estonia, last voice from Estonia). Ainsalu is missing, Tammes was killed but the body was found. Some eyewitnesses have said both were identified after emergency calls on deck lowering life rafts. Captain Esa Mäkelä (Silja Europa), on-scene commander. Mate Teijo Seppelin (Silja Europa), voice on the radio. M/S Isabella (Captain ?), rescued 17 passengers by its own actions. M/S Mariella (Captain Jan-Tore Törnroos), rescued 15 passengers by its own actions, took 21 from helicopters. M/S Silja Symphony (Captain Hans Modig) took 21 passengers from helicopters. Finnish professional rescue swimmer Juho Ala-Lahti (OH-HVG) saved 21 passengers from the sea, OH-HVG all in all 44 passengers. OH-HVD rescued 7. OH-HVG was able to land on the deck of the ship in a storm. Most of the helicopters had to take the victims directly to the mainland. Swedish conscripts rescued all in all 39 passengers with 13 helicopters (Q97 alone took 15). Many rescue swimmers were injured by lifting hooks or hitting lifeboats. Horrible conditions.
mostafa alb No, that's why people survived. Most passengers did not even make it out of the sinking ship, since it was flipped to the side. The corridors leading on deck were now deep, vertical shafts, the staircases were lying horizonally. Only fit people, who managed to climb out of there within a few minutes had a chance. That is why most survivors were sporty young men. None of the children or elder people on board survived, and hardly any women. They just went down with the ship, which sank very rapidly. Nobody could have saved them.
Well, if the frigging captain had called for Mayday earlier before sh*t escalated, maybe they would have a chance, but since he is probably is dead, I will refrain from calling him a second-degree murderer.
Well... They did travel with higher speed than usual, but not much faster than the other ferries. But, from the bridge they did not have visual contact with the bow visor and couldn't see the damage. A crewman was sent to investigate and a monitor showed splashes of water, but was facing 90 degress away from the bow and didn't show the actual opening. By that time it was already too late. The two lists happened very fast and I have to say that there was nothing that could've been done in time. Mariella was an hour away when the mayday went out, at most they would've saved 10 minutes. 10 minutes that would'nt have changed anything.
I didn't want to thumb up because it is sad, but it's informative and I was wondering about that. I wonder how his experience was. The distress in his voice is obvious; he knows better than anyone what is about to happen, and the ramifications. Everything start sliding at 30 degrees list/angle. His last messages were (assumedly) way past that point... And the "it looks bad" is so eerie.
@@SebHaarfagre Probably, Tammes (who was the second voice heard from Estonia) couldn't believe what was happening. He's believed to have underestimated the list, probably because his brain couldn't comprehend what was happening - that is, the shop was sinking fast and that they had no chance of stopping it.
SebSk Eerie indeed, it gave me chills. The tone of his voice, and the alarms blaring in the background is simply horrifying. I liked the video, because it is a piece of history, but i completely understand your reasoning.
I do not know where they breed these kind of Captain. Finns are supposed to be calm and cool in facing disaster, but his low voice and calmness gives hope to the salvation project. True professionals.
Take it cool, breath, slow down, take contact, follow it through, take charge, give everyone their jobs. Keep in contact and ready to show were help is needed, for the helicopters, if they can come. I went to Finnish captain school, never on those.
@@borisjohnson2606 people still get easily stressed out in situations like this, when the shit hits the fan. That's why e.g. air traffic controllers need such an intensive training. People start to panic if they are in charge and do stupid things.
A friend of mine's grandmother was supposed to go on the Estonia this night with a friend of her. The friend, however, got sick the day before and insisted on my friend's grandmother going. She decided not to because she thought it would be pointless to be alone on the journey. She and her friend will forever be thankful of that illness.
It's heartbraking noticing how their voices shatter when they realise how bad the situation is. For the captain of Europa at "They're in the water!". And for the captain of Mariella when he said he had to shut down the propellers. There is no boat, no Estonia... If you reading this have the opportunity to visit Tallinn in Estonia, go see the memorial just in the harbour. It shows the trip the boat was supposed to go as a long line that breaks all of sudden. Every single name is written down.
there is also a memorial in my hometown of Norrköping Sweden, I believe over 100 elderly that was on an organized cruise perished. alot of people of my age lost their grandparents this night, we were 7 years old
Also in Stockholm at Djurgården. I visited Tallinn with a friend as my first trip abroad without parents in my late teens. Beautiful city. We went by the memorial as well. So tragic..
You have to wonder, during all of this there was probably people alive in the ship as it was under water in air pockets. What an absolutely horrible way to die.
Would probably just add to the horrible terror your mind is experiencing. Probably pitch dark, metal noices from the hull echoing trough the ship in a haunting way. Sounds of flowing, cold water. Fuck.
P. Ricard Absolutely! I agree that the helping ships stayed highly professional and disciplined given the circumstances. However the mayday call from estonia was extremely unprofessional and given in a state of panic, all the other ships that responded to the mayday call had huge difficulties to find out what is going on because of the extremely unprofessional mayday call. Official investigation group criticised harshly on the mayday call and incompetent estonian crew .
@@henrybaleno The ships sinking, the hulls fucked and thousands of liters of water is pouring in, in minutes, of course, they should have stayed calm, but they're human, of course they'll panic.
Jete-Miia Piiriste Of course you would panic but you have to stay absolutely calm when giving a mayday call so the other ships can clearly understand the situation and receive right information about the emergency. Accident investigation critized harshly on the estonia crew´s incompetence and professionalism and i agree fully with them. But yes they are humans and they will panic.
The unholy child of negativity Of course that is very life threatning situation when water is coming in and the ship is sinking but if your a competent and professional enough to drive a cruise ship then you should also know how to make and absolutely calm and official mayday call even when water is on the bridge, clearly estonia didn´t give a highly professional and competent mayday call given the circumstances and delayed the rescue operation by several minutes. Investigation group critized harshly on the estonian crew on their incompetence and unprofessionalism and i fully agree with them.
Didn't actually think about it until I saw this comment. That just upped the creepiness factor by a ton. You can even hear the furniture falling at 3:39.
@@janineperito1807 basically anything not bolted. You can see sliding furniture in some of the "high seas/waves" videos where cruise ships get caught in the fury of the Atlantic or North Sea. Even one woman knocking herself out due to not comprehending how to brace. None of those I saw had any deaths though, If I Recall Correctly.
These bois speak Finnish, English, Estonian and Swedish Yo stop replying by “they dont speak estonian” it something I KNOW the comment is 11 months ols STOP REPLYING
In this recording we can only hear three different languages (finnish, swedish and english) because Estonia's radio-operator did actually speak finnish (with a estonian accent).
I have watched this many times, and I cry every time. My cousin was on board and survived. There is a photograph of him lying on a life raft, only dressed in his underwear and a life jacket. He will never travel on a ship again.
@@flyingbarrel1949 I was just watching him in the documentary, he was the one who saw the alleged submarine beside the Estonia right before it capsized I think
I would just like to say that in addition to the obvious tragedy of the sinking of the M/S Estonia, this video also displays some of the best that the world of international passenger shipping has to offer. Every vessel in the vicinity of the Estonia behaved in an extremely professional manner and did their level best to respond to the emergency in the best manner that they could. Hats off to them all.
True and false...they shouldve spoken in english only so other ships coulda helped too,thats why u r obliged to learn flawless english b4 u get ur sailors certificate
My Grandma told me that she was lying in a hospital when this happened and had the room mate next to her started to cry uncontrollably when she turned on the TV program with reports of the sinking. My Grandma asked her what why she was crying so much and she responded that she was supposed to work on the Estonia that day but broke her leg and therefore was in that hospital instead. She switched work days with her colleague who then lost his life there...
The smallest things are what separate life from death. Whenever something bad happens to you, just remember it may be the same thing that separates you from something worse. Be grateful whatever happens.
Keep in the mind that the captains of Mariella and Europa have stated in interviews, made by the Joint Accident Investigation Commission (JAIC) that they couldn't wrap their heads around that Estonia had actually sunk when they arrived at the scene. They thought they would find Estonia with a really bad list, not totally under water. You can hear the disbelief in Esa Mäkele's (the captain of Silja Europa) voice when he asks Jan-Tore Thörnroos (the captain of Mariella) if he can see Estonia, between 14:10 and 15:20.
30 years has past... But still. I've watched THIS video for years now.... Exactly at the same day, exactly at the same time. Always. I'm just SO SO SORRY this happened! Greetings from Estonia to all, who were touched by this tragedy on this very sad anniversary.... BE strong today. We will NOT forget.... 🕯
Gud vilket bra jobb han gjorde med radio trafiken i detta nödläge!. Lugn och saklig å allt perfekt!. Var nog några olika radio operatörer under natten! men alla skötte radiotrafiken perfekt!!!!!!
@@jonaslindmark6174 Do You know that Finland was Part of Sweden - for 500 years ! We were Part of Sweden longer - than SKÅNE has been - Where They speak Danish !
Just stop. Internet is knowledge for a few, entertainment for the plebs. Which one are you? Never apologize for learning something new you didn't know before.
How didnt you know about this? It was kind of a big deal and still is since many people died due to one mistake that shouldn't have been made.. that makes it even more sad.. but hey! It's always great to learn new things, even if it's these things. 😁✌🏼
Bonnies Playground what mistake? That ship had a huge whole on its side. Its was sunk on purpose. It was said that the captain died but he was clearly seen on the news when survivors was taken back to land. It was some bull shot cover up and intended killing of people
@@JennaOfficiaal i found out about this from the video with the transcription of titanic's distress messages. ive never heard about that ship, i was born two years later and in my country (poland) no one talked about it on the news after I was born (at least not that i remember). so yeah. there are even more tragedies than you think, that people still dont know about, but its good that were finding out about them, because now we can pay respects learn more about the victims and the tragedy itself.
I might be mistaken but I think this recording was made on Silja Europa. It sounds like he is speaking on multiple channels. That's probably why Silja Europa is in every conversation, with that clear sound. The others might speaking on different channels as well but that won't be recorded if it's recorded on Silja Europa. All tho Silja Europa did end up taking command of the whole rescue operation.
I’d say the Estonia’s captain was the one who deserves the most respect. Everything was falling into shambles around him and he kept his calm even though this would be his end. Puhka rahus.
@@lendavkanguru1803 nevertheless not abandoning the ship and it's passengers at the first sign of trouble is a very respectable thing. The guy sending the mayday was a hero, think about the shock he must've been in.
As a former SAR pilot I must say I am extremely impressed by the professional attitude of all the ships involved. I have seldom heard it any better than this. Europa assumed On Scene Commander duties almost immediately and handled it perfectly. They thought of every little detail, thus offering the maximum assistance they could, thereby saving the maximum amount of people possible. Hats off to them.
Actually they saved practically no one. Only helicopters were able to save people because of the weather and hours later. No one survived in water. And many died on life boats because they were full of water and it took hours to save anyone.
@@MultiJejje they did indeed not save a lot of people because the ship went down so fast, the water was cold and not a lot of people were able to get out of the shp. However, they worked perfectly together and thus create the optimum situation for a rescue. Sadly enough it was not to be, but that was no fault of theirs.
I was in Turku, Finland when this disaster struck and still remember the sound of Emergency vehicles' Sirens rushing to the harbor and choppers in the air. My deepest condolences to the families & relatives of all those lost in this disaster.
One thing that was interesting to me to see, is how Silja Europa's radio operator went from being sleepy and bored, to some disbelief when he heard the Mayday call, and instantly getting worried and asking Estonia again, and then going all out to alert everyone, making sure the land knows of the situation. Huge props to him.
One of the human experiences that I find touching is the response of mariners during a crisis or catastrophe. They immediately stop, identify how they can help, and jump in to save lives. Within 10 minutes several ships responded, determined position, and began their trip to the Estonia. It’s a tragedy for those who lost their lives, but because of these actions, over 100 people were saved.
They are required by international law to stop whatever they are doing and immediately help someone that sent a mayday call, which is why false alarms have huuuuge consequences.
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue That, and the fact that The Sea is a common enemy to all mariners. If she intends to claim one of you, you do your damnest to stop it.
Sharm. He/she said that everybody on the bridge died and that is correct. The bridge is the "room" where you steer the ship. Only three men are known to have been there during the disaster and none of them survived.
The teamwork all the ships applied is unbelievable. Although there were a lot of deaths, they were still able rescue many people because they all acted fast and professionally. Radio commander of Silja Europa should get an reward for being so good at giving directions and information. R.I.P all the people who died on M/S Estonia.
Alltho the rescue was really slow because of the bad weather. Some people freeze to death inside those life boats because they waited hours for the rescue. These big boats were afraid to go too near by the people on water or lifeboats so that waves don't throw them too hard toward the boats or under, so many people drowned or died to hypothermia instead. Could more risks have been taken...that boats would have tried to lift people from the sea into the boats too ? to that there is many opinnions.
@@susanna8612 the captains had a valid point. If a wave throws you into a ship, your body will likely be damaged, which makes you even harder to save. More helicopters would've been excellent. Three helicopters responding is already quite a response, but as many as they could get there within 3 hours would've saved even more people. The ships on scene saved saved 34 people combined, and helicopters saved 104. Each additional helicopter could've saved 20-30 people.
@@fullsalvo2483 Ei sitä voi laskea sillä tavalla että jos yks heko pelastaa 10 niin 10 hekoa pelastaa 100. Siellä on ollu helvetin kovat olosuhteet keskellä pimeintä yötä täydessä myrskyssä.Suurin osa yksinkertaisesti hukkui tai kuoli hypotermiaan pinnalla ollessaan. Kyllähän niitä ruumiita sieltä nosteltiin paljonkin, mikä on vielä vaativampaa kuin elävien nosto
I'm Finnish. When I was a kid and a teenager (I was ten when this disaster happened) we used to go on a cruise with Viking Line or Silja Line every other year or so. After this incident my father refused any other ship than Silja Europa. Silja's boats are bigger, newer and made with better quality he stated. Once I remember there was an announcement and it was the captain speaking. He said something about a delay in the schedule. I noticed my father glancing out the windows and it was a beautiful summer day. My stepmother asked him why he got so tense and he answered that it's nothing, that we are in good hands. A little later my father asked a crew member about it and the reason to the delay was apparently a small boat that was in the way and we couldn't pass it safely. My father is a very calm kind of person and he was in a high position at his workplace so he has quite a lot of people looking up to him. I have not forgotten his comment about us being in good hands the second he recognised the captain's voice. It sure is calming, even in this situation.
There's no such thing as a radio operator anymore. It was the ships officer, the one who's in charge of navigating the ship. The captain is the guy with the deeper voice.
Estonia- dark red Silja Europa white Orange- Mariella Annette- light Purple White with red- radio Silja Symphony-blue/purple Finnmerchant- silver Antares-pink Finnjet-green Isabella-yellow Mastera+pink/silver Coast guard-red
My dad was working on a small ferry when this happened in 1994. He was listening on channel 16 the whole way through. And realized how bad it really was.
Despite what happened, this recording is such a good example of competence and professionalism when under stress. Everybody is staying calm, even flawlessly switching languages (!) and working with what limited information they have. Relaying information and figuring out what to do together. They did a great job and it makes me feel safer knowing that our brothers around the Baltic Sea have sailors of this caliber.
I always feel so sad about this knowing the captain drowned shortly after this recording. You can hear the desperation in his voice. The last thing he did before she sank was honking the horn regarding survivors as a last abondon ship/good bye. Mad respect for that captain and thier crew and im so sorry his happened.
That wasn't the captain. The guy on the radio was Third in Command. The captain survived for whatever reason and was seen in Sweden shortly after (there is even a video on RUclips). It is believed that the captain had known what was going to happen.
@@SmithAlexUK there was 3 different guys on the radio on Estonia. Their names is in the comments under this video. They were all young. The first guy that can be heard was just a few years over 20.
I was a passenger on MS Mariella that night. It was unpleasant ride even before we heard what is going on, i was afraid and still i am used to travel with ships and work on them. All the watertight emergency doors were shut and could be opened only by pressing this pneumatic release button. All restaurants and shops were closed and we could hear pallets falling filled with glass botles that got smashed and the entire ship smelled alcohol because of that. It was morbid view from my cabin window when day broke and we could see all the people and liferafts floating around us.
Must be quite of an astonishing experience to challenge a storm regardless of circumstances and going towards a vessel in emergency and putting your own life/lives of passengers at risk at the same time. Sounds like a true oath of musketeers.
Can you imagine the descisionmaking of the captains of Mariella and Europa? I know for a fact that Mariella's captain hade to be called awake, and he arrived on the bridge barefeet. The radio operator on Europa actually says that he just woke the skipper, so Esa was probably sleeping to. They both get the mayday and just have minutes to decide what to do with their vessels. At this point they had no idea what had happened to Estonia. Im amazed by the courage of these crews.
Just imagine how horrible it is to look out seeing people in the stromy waters and you know you cannot deploy crew in life boats to save anyone because of the weather. Only thing you can do is to throw rafts and stuff in the water in the hopes that some of the people will be able to save themselves and some others and then wait for the helicopters that are still about half an hour away. And you have even no idea yet that majority simply went down with the ship.
"And would had survived Estonia also." Yeah, sure. I heard survivors tell about a lone guy on a raft just taken by the wind and blowing away in the dark. In a situation like that it's not much you can do, and if you're in the water too long it doesn't matter how tough you think you are because you're gonna freeze to death. Surviving situations like these you need to be driven, but you also need some luck.
I got chills the whole time I was listening to this. This must be the most horrible and sad thing I've ever listened to. You can hear despair and fear in The Voice of the Estonia crew. May all who perished in the disaster of Estonia rest in peace. I hope investigators find out what really caused the sinking so people can have peace of mind.
Det var precis så vi började varje larmsamtal på radio till ryttmästaren när jag gjorde lumpen: "- Godmorgon fröken fänrik! Nånting har hänt. Eeh, vet du var jag är nånstans? - Utom skotthåll för mig, det är enda anledningen till att du ännu lever!"
Ei ne tienneet tuossa vaiheessa, sehän se vasta kammottavaa onkin. Onhan se varmasti ollut pelottavaa kaikille kun laiva kallistuu ja kaikki hälyttimet huutaa, mutta kukaan komentosillalla ei tiennyt että ne on uppoamassa ennen kuin tuon viimeisen soiton jälkeen. Se on mun mielestä yksi pahimmista jutuista koko tuossa onnettomuudessa. Onhan siellä nyt varmasti tajuttu että on tosi vakava tilanne, mutta jos ne olis tienneet tuon maydayn aikaan siitä niin kyllä ne olisivat maininneet. Joku kymmenen minsaa vikasta maydaysta ja laiva oli jo tukevasti meren pohjassa, suurin osa mukana olleista ihmisistä hukkuneina.
worst part was, they could not realy do anything at all, becuse they could not stand still due to the storm, so if they whent to close to the people, they sucked them in to the propellers, what did happen, so they mostly just circled arround not being able to help.
@@soly2449 jepp mutta ei aluksi, ne sai kyllä aika monta pelastettua, kun ne laitto omat pelastus veneet alas, mutta ihmiset oli itse pakko päästä niihin, helikopterit tulivat myöhemmin, ne kyllä teki kaikeensa, mutta eivät voineet mennä niin lähellä kun olisivat halunneet.
I woke up in Germany that morning and turned on the TV. It was all about helicopters over a stormy sea and the news anchor kept repeating the phrase 'acht hundred menchen', the only thing I understood in german. I figured that a ship with 800 people was in trouble, probably some machine failure. I hoped everything would work out well for them. I went to brush my teeth. The anchor was still droning on about 'acht hundred menchen'. After having breakfast I heard the phrase for the 50:th time. I remember so vividly how it felt when it suddenly started to sink in...
Finland has two official languages - if you are in a Swedish speaking area you learn Finnish from age 12 and vice verse if you are in a Finnish area. English is compulsory from the age of 9. It’s unusual to not be at least bilingual in Europe.
It’s still so scary to listen to this I’m from Estonia, my relative died on this ship and there’s an whole documentary going on about MS Estonia right now. Im very grateful that the near ships and others tried to help as much people as they could.
Man this is hard to listen to. I wasn't even alive when this happened. But still. I've been on dozens of Baltic cruises, several of them on the Silja Europa we hear in this video. Something about it all happening in such a familiar environment makes it feel so much more vivid.
Eetu Palo i'm traveling from Sweden to Estonia and back 4 times a year and every time i'm on the ship, I try to go outside on deck at night and think about all the people who lost their lives that night! That is so heartbreaking!
Silja Europa's captain should be considered as a hero and an example of a good captain. Calm, strong and intelligent, and independently thinking enough to spread important details immediatly to all ships in that area. Even the other captains were asking him for advice for what to do. Take notes if you're studying to become a captain.
Not to short sell how he performed, all you said is true, however the other captains were asking him what to do because he was assigned the role of coordinating the search and rescue between the other vessels and the coast guard and sea rescue authorities, not because they were oblivious.
@@jhosioja yeeeeh, usually in these type of things the one who is put in charge is the one who answers the mayday call first as they have the most information from all the rest. But still he did an amazing job considering he had slept like 2 to 3 hours and had just been woken up.
It was a surreal experience when my mom woke me up at 06:30 and told me that the boat my friends were on had sunk. It took me days to realize what had happened. I miss you guys a lot. You always showed me the baddest movies like The Terminator and we played games like Doom. You were really nice and cool!
I am in awe of the response from rescue ships. For the calmness (not coldness) of their professionalism. Their close cooperation with each other. As the moments went by it must have been apparent that a great tragedy had occurred, yet they continue in their difficult duty.We owe so much to such professionals, do we not?
Respect to all those officers who kept cold nerve and tried to save as many lives as possible. I have had the honor to know 3 survivors personally and with 2 of them I am still working on a boat together.
There are some of them who should be RIU (Rest In Unpeace) considering they were too busy robbing the passengers that got out on deck to survive the sinking...
@@CMDRSweeper ... For the love of all that is holy, please tell me this isn't true. What kind of a person would rob someone while the ship is sinking??
@The unholy child of negativity Some Swedish survivors said it was some Estonians doing that. Apparently some people (some men obviously, to sound like a bitter feminist) were taking life vests from other people on deck, allegedly, and I know some Estonians would probably blame Russians. I don't know how many Russians were really onboard that ship though. But that's not uncommon, the blame game. Truth is there are bad people of all nationalities. Estonians had it rougher in general than Swedes though because of the Soviet Union and were probably better prepared (mentally) for a giant fuck up.
Youngest who survived was 12 year old norway boy... There acutally just made 4 episode tv show in estiona about estonia ship ITS called '' Ma Pääsesin Estonia Katastroofist"
17:50 you can hear alarms on background. Finnjet had problems in situ when cargo started to move on the car deck. A finnish book "GTS Finnjet - Itämeren superkulkija" included a story of a passenger at Finnjet: at 2:30am there was a passenger announcement telling that the ship had major problems. Finnjet asked permission to leave early from the accident place because of the moving cargo, and they kept the propellers rotating a bit, and they switched off the diesel power and started the gas turbines for better manouverability. At 7:55am they had permission to leave the site. The next day at the ship was very silent, and they had to clean 13000kg of glass/plates that were broken. Some of the cars had major damages. The ship went close to swedish coast for smaller winds, and when the ship started going back to Helsinki from Travemünde Germany, the waves were still breathtaking (the passenger was in a 46h cruise). (S)he trusted the finnish boat made by Wärtsilä Hietalahti shipyard back in 1977, making the trip back to Finland feeling a bit safer. Thank you all who were rescuing those poor ones. Rip Finnjet 1977-2008
The captain of Estonia. What a hero. They had a blackout. Somehow as the last thing he did he manged to give his coordinates. Then that it started to "looking really bad". By the tremble of his voice, he must have known that he himself wouldn't make it. But he made sure to send his coordinates. Relaying what some other hero yelled at him. On top of that 25 m/s wind and waves so high that Mariella and Europa saw it best not to deploy any boats.
He made sure to wait with the more "emotional" comment that it is looking bad until he had performed his professional duties by giving the location. Great captain and RIP
It was not the captain, the voice you can hear is 3rd in command Andres Tammes. He did not survive, his body was retrieved from the bridge on one of the early dives
Such an great communication between all the ships involved, what an amazing team work in order to rescue Estonia. Such a shame it was too late when they arrived at the scene. My heart goes to all those who lost their life's, all the survivors and their families. RIP Estonia ❤️
Specially considering Estonia had almost 1000 people and to realise they are already in the sea what a disaster it must be with that many people on the ship, I would just think specially with the storm how will anyone be able to survive this.
I remember that i was in second grade in scool, i remember going out from home to start my walk to scool, about over a km away, weather in the morning was really bad, it was windy, it rained, there were falles trees every where, and it was kind of dark, arrived at scool and director of the scool ordered all classes to the meeting hall, then she said that Estonia went down in the early morning hours. So all of the students and teachers took a minute of silence for the victims. This sparked my interest in ferry, mainly Estonia at first, but later it grow to all shipclasses, and beacuse all of this i ended up being a searescuer in my time off from the dayjob
I know nothing about sea travel but those guys seems really professional and disciplined. Must be a very difficult situation and they all handled it so elegantly.
3:40 you can actually hear a bridge window giving in and the sea flowing into the bridge. "Looks really bad now." they were in such state of shock but handled the situation as they could. Also the radio contact with Estonia breaks after that.
@erynoicee Especially now that a second investigation has confirmed that it was due to the visor falling off. Isn't it tragedy enough that if a proper examination had been made, the MS Estonia would never have been declared seaworthy, without involving conspiracies?
I'd like to apologize in advance for the poor story-telling. It's never been a strength of mine. I remember entering my old principal's office and noticing a lot of boat-related items such as a model of a sailing ship, some boat knots, and more. He also had a framed picture of Estonia on his wall. I liked him a lot. Whenever we had lunch at the same time we often sat together and spoke. He is a very funny and nice guy. He was the kind of person who doesn't take anything in life for granted. Not far before graduating from his school, I learnt that he is one of the few survivors of Estonia. I never had the balls to personally ask him about this, but a mutual friend of ours told me a lot about it. Hearing this made me think of him. I hope he's doing great.
Listen very closely at 3:40,. and you can hear a whoosh along with an indistinct clattering right before the transmission ends. What most likely transpired was that the list had by then developed to plus 70 degrees, and the windows at the far end of the starboard side shattered by the waves. The swhoosh is the water entering the bridge and the clattering is from the loose objects accumulated at the bridge's starboard being displaced. "It's looking really bad... really bad right now..." I can only imagine what he's feeling, but as he says that, he's probably holding on to dear life on a bridge that's visibly going vertical, staring down at the ingressing sea just meters below himself. His next transmission is his last...
@@randomrazr they had duties to fulfill. Had they abandoned the bridge when they had the chance, they would've never given Estonia's coordinates and everyone would've drowned and froze. Also, when the water pressure was enough to break the bridge's windows, they only had seconds to react before the entire bridge went below the waterline.
@@freddyfox5002 Millions are dead and ten times more are injured for live with brain damage (thousands of small strokes), heavily reduced lung capacity due to damaged blood vessels and scar tissue. Plus other irreparable problems. The same happens in many other organs in the body, which leads to a higher risk for cancer later in life. Even many kids are severely ill in long term Covid (at least 215 kids in Stockholm alone). And Covid-19 is no flu virus... It's related to cold viruses, a completely different family, with completely different properties.
Scary hearing those sounds in the background of Estonia, at the Mayday call there's something violently shaking in the background and when he gives the final part of the cordinates it sounds like water is storming in to the bridge. Rest in peace to everyone who went down with the ship. 🙏
Amzing how they keep calm and well cooperate. Its literaly minutes before sinking they managed to shout their position via radio that probably saved the ones in the water... RIP
Amazing to listen to. These guys are so professional arranging helicopter lifts and a major rescue and their so cool and calm. It's when the first ship on scene says there is no sign of the Estonia and the guy say's "oh OK" but you can hear in his voice "oh shit this is really bad".
The mechanics in the engine room of the estonia are madlalds they stayed in the ship keeping power until the ship was already in a 90 degree angle to the right and then escaped trough the funnel on the last second and survived like holy shit.
They saved a lot of lives by doing that. If the lights go out and the people have to figure out how to get out in complete darkness, the survival chances for anyone still inside the ship plummets.
@@MidWitPride the list was already incredibly bad before any lights could have gone off that people couldn't climb up the stairs. If you didn't immediately leave you had no hope after only a few minutes. So if the lights went off earlier it would have no effect, everyone was already trapped
I do think the mechanics were amazing, vary brave, and helped keep the power on so that other ships could get the Estonia’s coordinates, many people has already died from being rocked back and forth. The hallways of the ship became elevator shafts and many people died from just falling trying to get to the stairs. Many people in that ship just gave up on survival and sat in a corner hugging their children, waiting for death. 😔
My dad worked as a truck driver here in sweden and he had routes between Estonia Norway and Finland and he was sick that week so his friend took over his route but sadly enough he didnt return RIP all people who dide
At first it sounded like they were too relaxed about it, too laid back. But listening back to this again, i realise that it was the middle of the night and most crews were tired, and they kept their calm to do everything efficiently and quickly. Hats off to Europa and Mariella crews, Greetings from Latvia.
It's one thing that they're tired because it's at night and second thing that the way Finns speak is kinda non energic but third they simply couldn't believe the situation was so bad. They thought they would find Estonia without power floating slightly tilted. The captains couldn't believe their radar when the boat disappeared.
I work with rescue operations and this was all they could do. Remember, boats this big can't travel fast. I give full eloge to all captains woken up in the middle of beaty sleep and made all they could do.
My servant, a fire brigade - the rescuer (commander of the rescue squad) - has provided the same. The rescue operation was free of errors. they all did the best they could. And the operation was really very coordinated.
Not completely free of errors - there were some terrible things that happened, including a raft that was dropped back into the sea and the passengers vanished. But given the circumstances, there's nothing better they could have done.
The thing that sends shivers down my spine is hearing all the alarms going off in the background on the bridge of Estonia during their transmissions. I can picture the scene perfectly and it must have been utterly terrifying. RIP.
@@hullzor970 I don't think so. I think it's just disturbance from the radio. Although you can clearly hear something moving in the background, most likely furniture.
12:24 "De är i sjön!" / "They're in the Sea!" complete chills when the captain of Silja Europa immediately - upon receiving the information from Mariella about lights and stuff in the sea - blunts out this fact up until then it had been like, well, what's happened, Estonia is obviously in some difficulties or she wouldn't have called in the mayday, but let's go there and check it out.. and then this guy just cuts through it all with no bullshit and no hesitance
I've read an interview somewhere about this, and they thought that it was just MS Estonia overreacting. The crew of MS Estonia were inexperienced and had behaved rather stupidly in the past, so you're right, the shock in his voice is really something. It would have been unthinkable for them for a ship to simply sink, though the same thing actually happened a year early with a Polish ship Jan Heweliusz.
The thing that hits me the most is that the person in command of the radio on the ms estonia still had the kindness to say good morning to the silja europa when he know they were going to sink in minutes
That was Andres Tammes, the third officer. And yes, I find Tammes' communication to be remarkably calm given the situation they were in.
N Gauge England -Synthematix- You are a dumb ass. Have a nice life!
@@Synthematix You are so funny, has anyone ever told you that? How funny you are? With your funny jokes, like "they were all probably smoking weed."
You should be in comedy. Because you're a joke.
@@Synthematix Sure, it was over 25 years ago now but ffs. Ppl lost their relatives and family. You don't just make jokes like that.
so far i know they might have not completely realized that it was as bad as it was because they couldnt see the front of the ship from the bridge so they didnt realize they had a massive hole in the front
They’re talking in swedish, english and finnish, and they all understand each other. Wow.. Rip to the ones who lost their lives :(
Jooo merivalvojien tolppaan ei ees viestit kuulunu
In finland they learn swedish and English by standard, and Estonian is very close to finnish.
I would also like to add that there are still swedish speaking parts of Estonia to this day
@@brinken3034 Well... After WWII not many stayed. Since 1991 maybe a few but as a Swede I'd say that time is over. Saaremaa/Ösel is not Swedish anymore.
Also estonia
My grandparents died on this boat. 4 weeks later I was born. RIP Gun och Sölve
pelle elm Aww, that’s terrible! Prayers are with you and your family.
I feel sorry for your grandparents
thats good
Rip, the water chilled them fast. Dont worry, theyre good now. peace mate
Sad🙁😢 RIP🙏
The captain of Estonia was a real Captain who went down with the boat. The last thing he did was to honk the horn as the last of the ship was about to go under water, just to alarm/inform the people on deck(read side of the boat) that it was time to jump in to the water, to not get draged down by the stream. He was already under water when he did it.
Or did he survive? He was reported as a survivor the first days and recognized by people who knew him. Even in footage after the ship had sunk people recognized him..
@@fragman4521 Arvo Andresson was the captain, look it up. He died on the ship.
@@fragman4521 in the final stages of the accident, third mate Andres Tammes and first mate Tormi Ainsalu were seen leaving the command bridge. Arvo Andresson, chief mate Juha Härma and fourth mate Kaimar Kikas remained on the bridge and died.
@@Bawamba The shipping company declared the commander as rescued and the hospital declared 7-8 crew members as rescued, but all of these were later reported as missing instead. Very strange. One of the women rescued apparently used her nickname which nobody else shouldn't have known about. Also the same woman or her sister who also was supposed to have been rescued from the start called home one year later, but the call got disconnected..
@@fragman4521 Well, fyi what you read on flashback or reddit aint always true. Good to have in the back of the head for next time you post comments.
I was six years old when she sank. I remember saying goodbye to my neighbour the day before she sank. And I remember never seeing my neighbour again. It was my first memory and feeling of death in my life.
Zyphera Woah really sad
😢😢
Zyphera blame the Swedish military
Oh, I'm so sorry for your loss, I lost someone on there too.. My dearest brother. 😢
My uncle was also on that ship i think. But he was a good swimmer and managed to escape.
when Estonia speaks, you can hear all kinds of alarms blaring in the background
And people talking
You can also hear groans from the ship changing list
Where was the captain. This is 3rd in command speaking. Went over so fast.
Petrus Invictus actually 4th in command, third officer. The way ship’s authority is passed:
Captain>First Officer>Second Officer>etc.
Yeah, that’s very scary..
its extremely heartbreaking to realize that during this video the radiator of ms estonia drowned, just minutes after after he says 'the situation is looking really bad here'
Dammm that was sad
Given what happened there’s actually quite a bit of conspiracy theories. Mainly that the ship was carrying weapons (Sweden isn’t exactly known to deal with the best people when it comes to selling arms). The government admitted that it used to carry weapons but it didn’t this time. All of that has been put down hard by official investigation though and the site was declared a grave at sea. So none of the bodies were recovered instead covered up in cement.
@@hassetjifrebro8222 what do you mean by covered in cement
Maximilian Lagerholm actually the cementing was stopped quite quickly -
But it’s still very... uncomfortable that smith tak b.v. Was involved - being a company that is specialized in disarming and getting back radioactive stuff from water and seas. And then those trucks that entered the ship right before departure. And then the most cruel part - the story of Kalev vatras“ - oh man I’m getting goosebumps just from thinking a out it o_o
Kuroneko Neko He meant concrete. Too many finnish people thinks concrete is cement in english.
I cant imagine how scary it was. Being in pitch-black while the ship is fastly going underwater. I cannot even imagine this in my wordt nightmares. I am sorry for all the people who lost their close ones and for those who lived through this disaster.
I was on the Silja Europa at that time and when we got there it was pretty much under water
@@flukz.z u are probably 10yr
Did you sink the ship or why are you sorry?
@@imonoke7903 bro he is sorry for people loss, and u with ur stupid joke burn in hell
@@imonoke7903put more effort into trolling
I travelled on MS Estonia three times, last time I forgot to return my cabin key,so when I got back to my student dorm at the time I just put the key away.
Then a year later I realized what I had lying in my drawer.
To this day, I still have that key on the same bunch as all my other keys, ocasionally looking at it. Cabin 1029 it says.
Creepy one might say, but it makes certain things in life a bit more palpable to me.
That's really interesting. Thank you for sharing
A piece of dark side history there with you.
You should turn it in to a museum or something if you have the chance.
@@matushka__ it has emotional factors, I wouldn't give
That key is telling you that you can play the Lottery the rest of your life, and you will NEVER winn.
You allready wonn :)
All these seamen doing their duty with relaying emergency radio traffic on this highly trafficed ferry line makes me feel such awe. They all sound so cold and ready for what is happening, eventhough they had no idea of what was going on. You can tell some of the men have been just woken up. As far as I can tell, a few of them switch between Swedish, Finnish, Estonian and maybe even English without mistakes. They manage to relay position in one go, and are so quick in relaying new information (such as the position, the red flare, the visual contact etc.)
None of them hesitate for even a second in this awful weather, in vessels FULL of other civilians to look after. Im in awe of the works of ALL the crews.
It was an absolute shit situation in all ways, with a shitty outcome no one could control, though I am 100% sure the crews and captains mustered all their experience and courage to try to turn the situation around and do as much as possible.
As a Swede I'm proud to have Finnish and Estonian neighbours.
This comment made me emotional. I think you are 100% correct on the matter. As Finnish person who has lived in Sweden, now in Finland, I too am proud of our neighboring countries.
Very kind words.
vi älskar er okså (except in icehockey championships)
I think the radio transmission has been edited. There is no way that they can arrive on the site in less than 10 minutes.
Ohh yes, There are several cuts! The time between Estonia's first mayday and the arrival of Mariella is about 50 minutes. The mayday went out at 01:22 circa- Mariella arrived about 02:12
Kiitos, käre bror.
When it comes to icehockey there is no mercy. Unless we (a highly unlikely scenario, I know) we're already out. Then Finland is my team of choice.
A bit different way of working than Costa Concordia. This is more professional and captains aren't cowards.
Yeah, I saw the radio traffic video when the captain was waiting for a taxi, and coast guard tried to order him back on the ship. What a fucking failure of a human being.
@@Alex-qu3uu Why would taking an irresponsible risk make him a coward? An idiot, yes, but certainly not a coward. And while it may have contributed, it wasn't the Captain's fault alone. There were design flaws in the ship, and also some damage and rust to the locks and hinges of the bow visor, which caused the sinking by breaking off in the stormy sea.
@@Alex-qu3uu How can it be the captains fault if the ship was constructed with a design flaw? He is a captain not an enginer
@@Alex-qu3uu NO Bow Visor should break off a Ship, no matter how "fast" the Ship was travelling. Captain could not prevent that from happening. He is blameless.
@@user-vb2ur5us6i Well spoken.
Voices:
Second mate Tormi Ainsalu (Estonia, first voice)
Third mate Andres Tammes (Estonia, last voice from Estonia). Ainsalu is missing, Tammes was killed but the body was found. Some eyewitnesses have said both were identified after emergency calls on deck lowering life rafts.
Captain Esa Mäkelä (Silja Europa), on-scene commander.
Mate Teijo Seppelin (Silja Europa), voice on the radio.
M/S Isabella (Captain ?), rescued 17 passengers by its own actions.
M/S Mariella (Captain Jan-Tore Törnroos), rescued 15 passengers by its own actions, took 21 from helicopters.
M/S Silja Symphony (Captain Hans Modig) took 21 passengers from helicopters.
Finnish professional rescue swimmer Juho Ala-Lahti (OH-HVG) saved 21 passengers from the sea, OH-HVG all in all 44 passengers. OH-HVD rescued 7. OH-HVG was able to land on the deck of the ship in a storm. Most of the helicopters had to take the victims directly to the mainland.
Swedish conscripts rescued all in all 39 passengers with 13 helicopters (Q97 alone took 15). Many rescue swimmers were injured by lifting hooks or hitting lifeboats. Horrible conditions.
Lars Mäki was the captain of M/S Isabella at that time
these guys remained calm and worked well together. goodjob.
DanTheMemeMan thats why people died
mostafa alb
No, that's why people survived.
Most passengers did not even make it out of the sinking ship, since it was flipped to the side. The corridors leading on deck were now deep, vertical shafts, the staircases were lying horizonally.
Only fit people, who managed to climb out of there within a few minutes had a chance. That is why most survivors were sporty young men. None of the children or elder people on board survived, and hardly any women.
They just went down with the ship, which sank very rapidly. Nobody could have saved them.
Well, if the frigging captain had called for Mayday earlier before sh*t escalated, maybe they would have a chance, but since he is probably is dead, I will refrain from calling him a second-degree murderer.
Well... They did travel with higher speed than usual, but not much faster than the other ferries. But, from the bridge they did not have visual contact with the bow visor and couldn't see the damage. A crewman was sent to investigate and a monitor showed splashes of water, but was facing 90 degress away from the bow and didn't show the actual opening. By that time it was already too late. The two lists happened very fast and I have to say that there was nothing that could've been done in time. Mariella was an hour away when the mayday went out, at most they would've saved 10 minutes. 10 minutes that would'nt have changed anything.
goodjob? They died
Everyone on the bridge of Estonia died. Including the guy you hear in this recording.
I didn't want to thumb up because it is sad, but it's informative and I was wondering about that. I wonder how his experience was. The distress in his voice is obvious; he knows better than anyone what is about to happen, and the ramifications.
Everything start sliding at 30 degrees list/angle. His last messages were (assumedly) way past that point...
And the "it looks bad" is so eerie.
Not everyone.
@@SebHaarfagre Probably, Tammes (who was the second voice heard from Estonia) couldn't believe what was happening. He's believed to have underestimated the list, probably because his brain couldn't comprehend what was happening - that is, the shop was sinking fast and that they had no chance of stopping it.
SebSk Eerie indeed, it gave me chills. The tone of his voice, and the alarms blaring in the background is simply horrifying. I liked the video, because it is a piece of history, but i completely understand your reasoning.
He stayed on the ship as it sank like guy on the titanic
I'm very impressed how the captain of the Europa managed the whole situation. The calm way and good coordination probably saved many lifes that day.
I do not know where they breed these kind of
Captain. Finns are supposed to be calm and
cool in facing disaster, but his low voice and
calmness gives hope to the salvation project.
True professionals.
Congrats to europa cap
Take it cool, breath, slow down, take contact, follow it through, take charge, give everyone their jobs. Keep in contact and ready to show were help is needed, for the helicopters,
if they can come. I went to Finnish captain school, never on those.
Well he wasn't on a sinking ship in the middle of dark rough seas, so he had no reason not to be calm.
@@borisjohnson2606 people still get easily stressed out in situations like this, when the shit hits the fan. That's why e.g. air traffic controllers need such an intensive training. People start to panic if they are in charge and do stupid things.
"it's looking really bad right now" just sounds ghastly.
Makes me cry when I hear this. Must've been terrible, just terrible.
Especially considering that the ship was at least at a 30 degree angle at that point
The guy on the radio underestimated the list quite a lot, it was much more than 30+ at that point. RIP Estonia and everyone who perished that morning.
@@TheSuspectOnFoot It was nearly 90° when they said that
Apparently the ship ended up capsizing. They could've done a 180 for what anyone knew.
A friend of mine's grandmother was supposed to go on the Estonia this night with a friend of her. The friend, however, got sick the day before and insisted on my friend's grandmother going. She decided not to because she thought it would be pointless to be alone on the journey. She and her friend will forever be thankful of that illness.
It was all ment to go that way :)
I think we have the same friend
I love travelling alone, I would die there.
my mom saw the last departure due to the fact that she had arrived moments before
My grandfathers sister had a same story... She was supoosed to be on that ship but she got ill.
It's heartbraking noticing how their voices shatter when they realise how bad the situation is. For the captain of Europa at "They're in the water!". And for the captain of Mariella when he said he had to shut down the propellers. There is no boat, no Estonia...
If you reading this have the opportunity to visit Tallinn in Estonia, go see the memorial just in the harbour. It shows the trip the boat was supposed to go as a long line that breaks all of sudden. Every single name is written down.
I went there, it was really sad and heartbreaking to see that
there is also a memorial in my hometown of Norrköping Sweden, I believe over 100 elderly that was on an organized cruise perished. alot of people of my age lost their grandparents this night, we were 7 years old
Also in Stockholm at Djurgården. I visited Tallinn with a friend as my first trip abroad without parents in my late teens. Beautiful city. We went by the memorial as well. So tragic..
Estonia looks like airbus in France
I visited the Estonia memorial in Pärnu.
You have to wonder, during all of this there was probably people alive in the ship as it was under water in air pockets. What an absolutely horrible way to die.
Atamv at some point the water and the pressure would have killed them so yeah I agree
Good point!
Atamv imagine it like all parts of your head hurting a lot especially the insides of your ears
Would probably just add to the horrible terror your mind is experiencing. Probably pitch dark, metal noices from the hull echoing trough the ship in a haunting way. Sounds of flowing, cold water.
Fuck.
Atamv the military and government made them sink
These guys organized a rescue and arrived at the scene in less than 20 minutes. The ambulance car in my town would need longer...
Several hours cut in to 20 min
The “ambulance car” eh?
@@frojd1990 First Mayday call was at 01:22 and Mariella reached the scene at 02:12 so 50 minutes.
Props to the Baltic Sea SAR and the Swedish Army
@@BreadLoafSFM and my uncle the pederast
Very professional and disciplined, my deep respect to those who tried saving as many souls as possible while staying calm and polite on radio here.
P. Ricard Absolutely! I agree that the helping ships stayed highly professional and disciplined given the circumstances. However the mayday call from estonia was extremely unprofessional and given in a state of panic, all the other ships that responded to the mayday call had huge difficulties to find out what is going on because of the extremely unprofessional mayday call. Official investigation group criticised harshly on the mayday call and incompetent estonian crew .
Henry 203900 i mean, everyone would panic in such situations, imagine that you’re on a ship and it’s going to sink.
@@henrybaleno The ships sinking, the hulls fucked and thousands of liters of water is pouring in, in minutes, of course, they should have stayed calm, but they're human, of course they'll panic.
Jete-Miia Piiriste Of course you would panic but you have to stay absolutely calm when giving a mayday call so the other ships can clearly understand the situation and receive right information about the emergency. Accident investigation critized harshly on the estonia crew´s incompetence and professionalism and i agree fully with them. But yes they are humans and they will panic.
The unholy child of negativity Of course that is very life threatning situation when water is coming in and the ship is sinking but if your a competent and professional enough to drive a cruise ship then you should also know how to make and absolutely calm and official mayday call even when water is on the bridge, clearly estonia didn´t give a highly professional and competent mayday call given the circumstances and delayed the rescue operation by several minutes. Investigation group critized harshly on the estonian crew on their incompetence and unprofessionalism and i fully agree with them.
Terrible to hear all the alarms in the background of Estonia´s broadcast.
Didn't actually think about it until I saw this comment. That just upped the creepiness factor by a ton. You can even hear the furniture falling at 3:39.
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon yeah it may have book shelves falling too plus falling papers and folders from the drawers
@@janineperito1807 basically anything not bolted.
You can see sliding furniture in some of the "high seas/waves" videos where cruise ships get caught in the fury of the Atlantic or North Sea. Even one woman knocking herself out due to not comprehending how to brace. None of those I saw had any deaths though, If I Recall Correctly.
@@SebHaarfagre that's right
@@TheWolfwiththeDragon Thats actually even worse. Its a window breaking and letting water in
These bois speak
Finnish, English, Estonian and Swedish
Yo stop replying by “they dont speak estonian” it something I KNOW the comment is 11 months ols
STOP REPLYING
In this recording we can only hear three different languages (finnish, swedish and english) because Estonia's radio-operator did actually speak finnish (with a estonian accent).
joku mies joku i dont speak estoniam but swedish finnish and english
haba3000 true i guess
SKRÄTTÄR
@joku mies joku jups
I have watched this many times, and I cry every time. My cousin was on board and survived. There is a photograph of him lying on a life raft, only dressed in his underwear and a life jacket. He will never travel on a ship again.
Yeah I wouldn’t either. No way in hell
Is his name Carl?
@@arminratsepp8799 Yes
wait wasnt he the man in the documentary? cause i swear ive seen that picture before
@@flyingbarrel1949 I was just watching him in the documentary, he was the one who saw the alleged submarine beside the Estonia right before it capsized I think
I would just like to say that in addition to the obvious tragedy of the sinking of the M/S Estonia, this video also displays some of the best that the world of international passenger shipping has to offer. Every vessel in the vicinity of the Estonia behaved in an extremely professional manner and did their level best to respond to the emergency in the best manner that they could. Hats off to them all.
That's because they're Scandinavians.
@@duartesimoes508 finland is not part of scandinavia
@@Feanor916 and neither is estonia, they should've said northern countries or something mut pikkuvikoja
That’s Finland 🇫🇮 for you.
The Finns are never late to assist their Estonian and Swedish brothers, even when their conspiracies fail miserably.
True and false...they shouldve spoken in english only so other ships coulda helped too,thats why u r obliged to learn flawless english b4 u get ur sailors certificate
My Grandma told me that she was lying in a hospital when this happened and had the room mate next to her started to cry uncontrollably when she turned on the TV program with reports of the sinking. My Grandma asked her what why she was crying so much and she responded that she was supposed to work on the Estonia that day but broke her leg and therefore was in that hospital instead. She switched work days with her colleague who then lost his life there...
The smallest things are what separate life from death. Whenever something bad happens to you, just remember it may be the same thing that separates you from something worse. Be grateful whatever happens.
Damn, thats really profound..
Damn lying in youtube comments for likes, i hate humans
@@RealYunoCS Damn, believe it or not, this is - in fact - a true story
OTP SHADOW just because youre a boring fortnite kiddie who doesnt have life experiences doesn’t mean everyone else does
Keep in the mind that the captains of Mariella and Europa have stated in interviews, made by the Joint Accident Investigation Commission (JAIC) that they couldn't wrap their heads around that Estonia had actually sunk when they arrived at the scene. They thought they would find Estonia with a really bad list, not totally under water.
You can hear the disbelief in Esa Mäkele's (the captain of Silja Europa) voice when he asks Jan-Tore Thörnroos (the captain of Mariella) if he can see Estonia, between 14:10 and 15:20.
I am from Estonia
S2MpLE me to
S2MpLE nobody cares...
Urmo Vaher what is your problem
KingTreeFish, reality. You should try it sometime.
30 years has past... But still. I've watched THIS video for years now.... Exactly at the same day, exactly at the same time. Always.
I'm just SO SO SORRY this happened! Greetings from Estonia to all, who were touched by this tragedy on this very sad anniversary.... BE strong today.
We will NOT forget....
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Sooo much cred to the finnish radio person that had to control the situation with all the ships!
Gud vilket bra jobb han gjorde med radio trafiken i detta nödläge!. Lugn och saklig å allt perfekt!. Var nog några olika radio operatörer under natten! men alla skötte radiotrafiken perfekt!!!!!!
@@WXIWXI Don't forget that he had just been woken up as well. The adrenaline probably helped ofc, but very impressive for sure.
Agree! And they spoke swedish with accent from Finland.
The person on the radio was the captain of Europa.
@@jonaslindmark6174 Do You know that Finland was Part of Sweden - for 500 years ! We were Part of Sweden longer - than SKÅNE has been - Where They speak Danish !
Thanks internet for telling me about another tragedy I didn't know about at 4 in the morning
Just stop. Internet is knowledge for a few, entertainment for the plebs. Which one are you? Never apologize for learning something new you didn't know before.
How didnt you know about this? It was kind of a big deal and still is since many people died due to one mistake that shouldn't have been made.. that makes it even more sad.. but hey! It's always great to learn new things, even if it's these things. 😁✌🏼
@@JennaOfficiaal There are incidents where even more People died which you dont know about
Bonnies Playground what mistake? That ship had a huge whole on its side. Its was sunk on purpose. It was said that the captain died but he was clearly seen on the news when survivors was taken back to land. It was some bull shot cover up and intended killing of people
@@JennaOfficiaal i found out about this from the video with the transcription of titanic's distress messages. ive never heard about that ship, i was born two years later and in my country (poland) no one talked about it on the news after I was born (at least not that i remember). so yeah. there are even more tragedies than you think, that people still dont know about, but its good that were finding out about them, because now we can pay respects learn more about the victims and the tragedy itself.
I really have to pay respect to the captains. Especially Europa one. He is so easily taking the charge. And the communication is smooth as well.
I might be mistaken but I think this recording was made on Silja Europa. It sounds like he is speaking on multiple channels. That's probably why Silja Europa is in every conversation, with that clear sound. The others might speaking on different channels as well but that won't be recorded if it's recorded on Silja Europa. All tho Silja Europa did end up taking command of the whole rescue operation.
I’d say the Estonia’s captain was the one who deserves the most respect. Everything was falling into shambles around him and he kept his calm even though this would be his end.
Puhka rahus.
@@lendavkanguru1803 i don't think the one sending the distress message was Estonia's captain. I believe it was a second officer.
@@lendavkanguru1803 nevertheless not abandoning the ship and it's passengers at the first sign of trouble is a very respectable thing. The guy sending the mayday was a hero, think about the shock he must've been in.
Majin Buu true. Sorry i was misinformed!
As a former SAR pilot I must say I am extremely impressed by the professional attitude of all the ships involved. I have seldom heard it any better than this. Europa assumed On Scene Commander duties almost immediately and handled it perfectly. They thought of every little detail, thus offering the maximum assistance they could, thereby saving the maximum amount of people possible.
Hats off to them.
I dont wear hats
but most of them lost their lives.....
@@SimsMoyalemphasis on saving the maximum amount of people possible
Actually they saved practically no one. Only helicopters were able to save people because of the weather and hours later. No one survived in water. And many died on life boats because they were full of water and it took hours to save anyone.
@@MultiJejje they did indeed not save a lot of people because the ship went down so fast, the water was cold and not a lot of people were able to get out of the shp. However, they worked perfectly together and thus create the optimum situation for a rescue. Sadly enough it was not to be, but that was no fault of theirs.
I was in Turku, Finland when this disaster struck and still remember the sound of Emergency vehicles' Sirens rushing to the harbor and choppers in the air. My deepest condolences to the families & relatives of all those lost in this disaster.
Love!
Where Are You from ? This IS like JFK at Dallas - Everybody remembers Where They were ! - or where at - When They heard The NEWS !
2019-09-28 01:22, exactly 25 years since Estonia called for mayday.
Rest in Peace.
@@harrelihorreli3030 uhh I'm Estonian can't understand but you speak familiar
@@rainerm490 Because that isn't Estonian.
Wow. 26 years ago today and i had no idea.
26 years today
@@rainerm490 Estonian and Finnish sounds similar, just the accent is bit different
it was scary hearing them speak english but after hearing them start speaking my native language i felt so terrified all of a sudden
blossombaek exactly what i thought, felt!
Sameee
Same
it is even more frightening to hear estoians at the background on the radio session
Ye as a Finnish Person living in sweden this is terryfying
One thing that was interesting to me to see, is how Silja Europa's radio operator went from being sleepy and bored, to some disbelief when he heard the Mayday call, and instantly getting worried and asking Estonia again, and then going all out to alert everyone, making sure the land knows of the situation. Huge props to him.
One of the human experiences that I find touching is the response of mariners during a crisis or catastrophe. They immediately stop, identify how they can help, and jump in to save lives. Within 10 minutes several ships responded, determined position, and began their trip to the Estonia. It’s a tragedy for those who lost their lives, but because of these actions, over 100 people were saved.
They are required by international law to stop whatever they are doing and immediately help someone that sent a mayday call, which is why false alarms have huuuuge consequences.
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue That, and the fact that The Sea is a common enemy to all mariners. If she intends to claim one of you, you do your damnest to stop it.
It's scary listening to scared people who drown moments later. Sadly, everybody on the bridge died.
ThePenguinMaster198 no some people survived
Sharm Where did you hear that? Someone that know about it said that everyone died.
A little over 100 people survived Estonia but most of the people died.
The ship crew passed away but some passengers survived
Sharm. He/she said that everybody on the bridge died and that is correct. The bridge is the "room" where you steer the ship. Only three men are known to have been there during the disaster and none of them survived.
Different ship companies, all working together.
Chivalry isn't dead.
not amongst baltic countries at least.
Also, its not down to chivalry... it is international maritime law.
@@zoolkhan Estonia is the only baltic country involved here
@@leevin7546 .. its The Baltic sea... in this context i ment the countries with direct access to that water.
This is basic human decency. Companies are irrelevant in a state of emergency.
Yeah, I don't think they really had a choice.
The teamwork all the ships applied is unbelievable. Although there were a lot of deaths, they were still able rescue many people because they all acted fast and professionally. Radio commander of Silja Europa should get an reward for being so good at giving directions and information.
R.I.P all the people who died on M/S Estonia.
Alltho the rescue was really slow because of the bad weather. Some people freeze to death inside those life boats because they waited hours for the rescue. These big boats were afraid to go too near by the people on water or lifeboats so that waves don't throw them too hard toward the boats or under, so many people drowned or died to hypothermia instead. Could more risks have been taken...that boats would have tried to lift people from the sea into the boats too ? to that there is many opinnions.
Larus about 42& of other radio stations were close in Finland and 60 miles near Estonia
@@susanna8612 the captains had a valid point. If a wave throws you into a ship, your body will likely be damaged, which makes you even harder to save. More helicopters would've been excellent. Three helicopters responding is already quite a response, but as many as they could get there within 3 hours would've saved even more people. The ships on scene saved saved 34 people combined, and helicopters saved 104. Each additional helicopter could've saved 20-30 people.
@@fullsalvo2483 Ei sitä voi laskea sillä tavalla että jos yks heko pelastaa 10 niin 10 hekoa pelastaa 100. Siellä on ollu helvetin kovat olosuhteet keskellä pimeintä yötä täydessä myrskyssä.Suurin osa yksinkertaisesti hukkui tai kuoli hypotermiaan pinnalla ollessaan. Kyllähän niitä ruumiita sieltä nosteltiin paljonkin, mikä on vielä vaativampaa kuin elävien nosto
@@Japimon87 wooooord
17:19 and forward, when all the ships prepare their helicopter decks is such a powerful moment. Everyone coming together to help
Goddamit Europa's radio operator was doing great job
He was doing an amazing job. Sounded very much in control, definitely helps to have someone like that.
I'm Finnish. When I was a kid and a teenager (I was ten when this disaster happened) we used to go on a cruise with Viking Line or Silja Line every other year or so. After this incident my father refused any other ship than Silja Europa. Silja's boats are bigger, newer and made with better quality he stated. Once I remember there was an announcement and it was the captain speaking. He said something about a delay in the schedule. I noticed my father glancing out the windows and it was a beautiful summer day. My stepmother asked him why he got so tense and he answered that it's nothing, that we are in good hands. A little later my father asked a crew member about it and the reason to the delay was apparently a small boat that was in the way and we couldn't pass it safely.
My father is a very calm kind of person and he was in a high position at his workplace so he has quite a lot of people looking up to him. I have not forgotten his comment about us being in good hands the second he recognised the captain's voice. It sure is calming, even in this situation.
There's no such thing as a radio operator anymore. It was the ships officer, the one who's in charge of navigating the ship. The captain is the guy with the deeper voice.
@@TheKeisari I guess he meant the first officer to respond to Estonia's mayday call.
I think this recording was made on Europa.
Estonia- dark red
Silja Europa white
Orange- Mariella
Annette- light Purple
White with red- radio
Silja Symphony-blue/purple
Finnmerchant- silver
Antares-pink
Finnjet-green
Isabella-yellow
Mastera+pink/silver
Coast guard-red
Thanks I got confused
THAAAANKS you
11 ships actually called each other just to save estonia
Respect for the crew :(
Flotjan: light blue
@@avgeekshorts Flötjan? I can only hear ”Northbound vessel 4.3 miles south of lighthouse Flötjan, Finnish coast guard channel 16.” at 4:53.
My dad was working on a small ferry when this happened in 1994.
He was listening on channel 16 the whole way through. And realized how bad it really was.
My dad is better sailor than ur dad. He can also kick ur dads ass.
Outstanding professionalism. My dad's cousin's wife went down with the ship. May she rest in peace.
Silja Europa's captain that night was Esa Mäkelä and Mariella's captain was Jan-Tore Törnroos.
Thank you! Great to know the names.
@@Jemppu my name is jani lindroos and i was in army then
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@@MrPuhkeematonkupla Had you any part in the rescue team?
@@Jemppu Isabella's captain was Lars Mäki, Silja Symphony's captain was Hans Modig...
What professionalism on the radio, no panic, just the desire to help.
Lucky the Mariella was 9 miles away and running hard that direction. Those were cold temps. 9 miles must have seemed like forever while responding.
They were all trained professionals. Clear and concise communication is important, especially in an emergency.
Despite what happened, this recording is such a good example of competence and professionalism when under stress. Everybody is staying calm, even flawlessly switching languages (!) and working with what limited information they have. Relaying information and figuring out what to do together. They did a great job and it makes me feel safer knowing that our brothers around the Baltic Sea have sailors of this caliber.
Not quick enough... This was a complete disaster
I always feel so sad about this knowing the captain drowned shortly after this recording. You can hear the desperation in his voice. The last thing he did before she sank was honking the horn regarding survivors as a last abondon ship/good bye. Mad respect for that captain and thier crew and im so sorry his happened.
That wasn't the captain. The guy on the radio was Third in Command. The captain survived for whatever reason and was seen in Sweden shortly after (there is even a video on RUclips). It is believed that the captain had known what was going to happen.
@@SmithAlexUK The survived captain was Avo Piht, who was on Estonia as a passenger. The second captain who was on duty that night died.
Why sorry? Did you sink the ship?
@@SmithAlexUK there was 3 different guys on the radio on Estonia. Their names is in the comments under this video. They were all young. The first guy that can be heard was just a few years over 20.
@@imonoke7903 Yeah one of the worst modern day sinkings about 900 people died
I was a passenger on MS Mariella that night. It was unpleasant ride even before we heard what is going on, i was afraid and still i am used to travel with ships and work on them. All the watertight emergency doors were shut and could be opened only by pressing this pneumatic release button. All restaurants and shops were closed and we could hear pallets falling filled with glass botles that got smashed and the entire ship smelled alcohol because of that. It was morbid view from my cabin window when day broke and we could see all the people and liferafts floating around us.
Must be quite of an astonishing experience to challenge a storm regardless of circumstances and going towards a vessel in emergency and putting your own life/lives of passengers at risk at the same time. Sounds like a true oath of musketeers.
Can you imagine the descisionmaking of the captains of Mariella and Europa? I know for a fact that Mariella's captain hade to be called awake, and he arrived on the bridge barefeet. The radio operator on Europa actually says that he just woke the skipper, so Esa was probably sleeping to.
They both get the mayday and just have minutes to decide what to do with their vessels. At this point they had no idea what had happened to Estonia. Im amazed by the courage of these crews.
Just imagine how horrible it is to look out seeing people in the stromy waters and you know you cannot deploy crew in life boats to save anyone because of the weather. Only thing you can do is to throw rafts and stuff in the water in the hopes that some of the people will be able to save themselves and some others and then wait for the helicopters that are still about half an hour away. And you have even no idea yet that majority simply went down with the ship.
I've always been ok with stormy weather on passenger ships, though no 'seaman' by any means. And would had survived Estonia also.
"And would had survived Estonia also."
Yeah, sure. I heard survivors tell about a lone guy on a raft just taken by the wind and blowing away in the dark. In a situation like that it's not much you can do, and if you're in the water too long it doesn't matter how tough you think you are because you're gonna freeze to death. Surviving situations like these you need to be driven, but you also need some luck.
I got chills the whole time I was listening to this. This must be the most horrible and sad thing I've ever listened to. You can hear despair and fear in The Voice of the Estonia crew. May all who perished in the disaster of Estonia rest in peace. I hope investigators find out what really caused the sinking so people can have peace of mind.
That wassaid very good
the guy on the Estonia radio sounds so scared, I feel bad for him knowing he would have drowned moments later
I wonder why he sounds 'calm' to many commentators🤔
@@bern6543 we will never know, it's just history
Actually he sounds calm and in "survival mode" just like you should when in any danger. He was absolute hero for giving information till the end.
You can definitely hear fear in his voice no matter how calm and professional, sad very sad and scary
@@rixa1621 it was 2 different guys though
"Hyvää huomenta"
"Voisitko sä tulla apuun"
Kohtelias ku perkele vaikka kaveri varmasti ties jo että lähtö tulloo. :|
Det var precis så vi började varje larmsamtal på radio till ryttmästaren när jag gjorde lumpen:
"- Godmorgon fröken fänrik! Nånting har hänt. Eeh, vet du var jag är nånstans?
- Utom skotthåll för mig, det är enda anledningen till att du ännu lever!"
Ei ne tienneet tuossa vaiheessa, sehän se vasta kammottavaa onkin. Onhan se varmasti ollut pelottavaa kaikille kun laiva kallistuu ja kaikki hälyttimet huutaa, mutta kukaan komentosillalla ei tiennyt että ne on uppoamassa ennen kuin tuon viimeisen soiton jälkeen. Se on mun mielestä yksi pahimmista jutuista koko tuossa onnettomuudessa. Onhan siellä nyt varmasti tajuttu että on tosi vakava tilanne, mutta jos ne olis tienneet tuon maydayn aikaan siitä niin kyllä ne olisivat maininneet. Joku kymmenen minsaa vikasta maydaysta ja laiva oli jo tukevasti meren pohjassa, suurin osa mukana olleista ihmisistä hukkuneina.
Voiks joku kertoo et mikä toi pitkä pan pan viesti oli
Upposko se laiva siis just ennen sitä
@@kalletaskinen8548 siis toi pan pan on kai sellane yleinen hätätiedoitus kaikille radioille
@@onzpu juu
Just listen how everyone's tone changes once it becomes clear someone sunk...
It feels different understanding every line they’re saying, both Finnish and Swedish. You can hear their stress.
Respect to Mariella and Silja Europa crew
worst part was, they could not realy do anything at all, becuse they could not stand still due to the storm, so if they whent to close to the people, they sucked them in to the propellers, what did happen, so they mostly just circled arround not being able to help.
@Natalia Virtanen ne käytti helikoptereita
@@soly2449 jepp mutta ei aluksi, ne sai kyllä aika monta pelastettua, kun ne laitto omat pelastus veneet alas, mutta ihmiset oli itse pakko päästä niihin, helikopterit tulivat myöhemmin, ne kyllä teki kaikeensa, mutta eivät voineet mennä niin lähellä kun olisivat halunneet.
And isabella
And Uto army
I woke up in Germany that morning and turned on the TV. It was all about helicopters over a stormy sea and the news anchor kept repeating the phrase 'acht hundred menchen', the only thing I understood in german. I figured that a ship with 800 people was in trouble, probably some machine failure. I hoped everything would work out well for them. I went to brush my teeth. The anchor was still droning on about 'acht hundred menchen'. After having breakfast I heard the phrase for the 50:th time. I remember so vividly how it felt when it suddenly started to sink in...
You probably wanted to say "achthundert Menschen".
Yes I did.
"when it suddenly started to sink in..."
Good one.
zakkyummms ba dum tiss
Accidental puns are best puns.
American/British soldier?
like 4 different languages and they all understand it
Roni Väärälä haha yeah imagine that happening in the US.....
3 languages: swedish, finnish and english
I didn’t understand what they where saying apart from the English.If I were there on the ship that day I would be In very big trouble.
vimanski Also a bit Estonian
Finland has two official languages - if you are in a Swedish speaking area you learn Finnish from age 12 and vice verse if you are in a Finnish area. English is compulsory from the age of 9. It’s unusual to not be at least bilingual in Europe.
It’s still so scary to listen to this I’m from Estonia, my relative died on this ship and there’s an whole documentary going on about MS Estonia right now. Im very grateful that the near ships and others tried to help as much people as they could.
The most chilling, scary and sad recording I've ever listened.
Me to
Even though it was a horrible tragedy, listening to this isn't scary in my opinion because of how calmly and professionally these guys take it.
Man this is hard to listen to. I wasn't even alive when this happened. But still. I've been on dozens of Baltic cruises, several of them on the Silja Europa we hear in this video. Something about it all happening in such a familiar environment makes it feel so much more vivid.
Ghost Division I was 10. Very sad. The should have never happened!
+1 very sad.. :(
Sam All because the front broke off.
Eetu Palo On kyllä todella pelottavaa ja surullista kuunneltavaa ja tuntuu uskomattomalta että nämä vieläkin operoivat risteilijät oli pelastustöissä.
Eetu Palo i'm traveling from Sweden to Estonia and back 4 times a year and every time i'm on the ship, I try to go outside on deck at night and think about all the people who lost their lives that night! That is so heartbreaking!
Silja Europa's captain should be considered as a hero and an example of a good captain. Calm, strong and intelligent, and independently thinking enough to spread important details immediatly to all ships in that area. Even the other captains were asking him for advice for what to do. Take notes if you're studying to become a captain.
Näinhän se on... kokemus tulee iän myötä. Johtajuus luonnostaan. Tässä tapauksessa molemmat. Ihmishenkiä pelastui hänen ansiosta.
I know I wasn't born for this and will never be able to withhold the stress. I'd just black tf out
Not to short sell how he performed, all you said is true, however the other captains were asking him what to do because he was assigned the role of coordinating the search and rescue between the other vessels and the coast guard and sea rescue authorities, not because they were oblivious.
@@jhosioja yeeeeh, usually in these type of things the one who is put in charge is the one who answers the mayday call first as they have the most information from all the rest. But still he did an amazing job considering he had slept like 2 to 3 hours and had just been woken up.
Did any of them understand the severity
It was a surreal experience when my mom woke me up at 06:30 and told me that the boat my friends were on had sunk. It took me days to realize what had happened. I miss you guys a lot. You always showed me the baddest movies like The Terminator and we played games like Doom. You were really nice and cool!
😢
Im so sorry for that, they are in heaven now
😭
so sorry for your loss man
Oh no😔😥
I am in awe of the response from rescue ships. For the calmness (not coldness) of their professionalism. Their close cooperation with each other. As the moments went by it must have been apparent that a great tragedy had occurred, yet they continue in their difficult duty.We owe so much to such professionals, do we not?
My dad was a truckdriver , he was supposed to be on this ferry , but due to some traffic delays he missed the ferry , saved his life !
Estonia
Were you born yet? Might've saved your life too
Respect to all those officers who kept cold nerve and tried to save as many lives as possible. I have had the honor to know 3 survivors personally and with 2 of them I am still working on a boat together.
You had more chance of surviving the titanic than you did surviving the Estonia.
You are correct. I think the rate of people who died were 68% in Titanic and 86% in Estonia.
@@Bruh-jr2ep its awful
23 years ago this call was made...
+Jonsku Pelailee no..
The ship went down 23 years ago
Water is wet.
24 years now
Artsi Poppanen r/wooosh
May the 852 souls who died RIP
There are some of them who should be RIU (Rest In Unpeace) considering they were too busy robbing the passengers that got out on deck to survive the sinking...
852? I thought 200-300 died. Still, a terrible loss
@@CMDRSweeper
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For the love of all that is holy, please tell me this isn't true.
What kind of a person would rob someone while the ship is sinking??
@The unholy child of negativity Some Swedish survivors said it was some Estonians doing that. Apparently some people (some men obviously, to sound like a bitter feminist) were taking life vests from other people on deck, allegedly, and I know some Estonians would probably blame Russians. I don't know how many Russians were really onboard that ship though. But that's not uncommon, the blame game. Truth is there are bad people of all nationalities. Estonians had it rougher in general than Swedes though because of the Soviet Union and were probably better prepared (mentally) for a giant fuck up.
Youngest who survived was 12 year old norway boy... There acutally just made 4 episode tv show in estiona about estonia ship
ITS called
'' Ma Pääsesin Estonia Katastroofist"
17:50 you can hear alarms on background. Finnjet had problems in situ when cargo started to move on the car deck. A finnish book "GTS Finnjet - Itämeren superkulkija" included a story of a passenger at Finnjet: at 2:30am there was a passenger announcement telling that the ship had major problems. Finnjet asked permission to leave early from the accident place because of the moving cargo, and they kept the propellers rotating a bit, and they switched off the diesel power and started the gas turbines for better manouverability. At 7:55am they had permission to leave the site. The next day at the ship was very silent, and they had to clean 13000kg of glass/plates that were broken. Some of the cars had major damages. The ship went close to swedish coast for smaller winds, and when the ship started going back to Helsinki from Travemünde Germany, the waves were still breathtaking (the passenger was in a 46h cruise). (S)he trusted the finnish boat made by Wärtsilä Hietalahti shipyard back in 1977, making the trip back to Finland feeling a bit safer.
Thank you all who were rescuing those poor ones.
Rip Finnjet 1977-2008
The captain of Estonia. What a hero. They had a blackout. Somehow as the last thing he did he manged to give his coordinates. Then that it started to "looking really bad". By the tremble of his voice, he must have known that he himself wouldn't make it. But he made sure to send his coordinates. Relaying what some other hero yelled at him. On top of that 25 m/s wind and waves so high that Mariella and Europa saw it best not to deploy any boats.
He made sure to wait with the more "emotional" comment that it is looking bad until he had performed his professional duties by giving the location. Great captain and RIP
It was not the captain. It was 3 other guys from the Estonia crew.
@@Grivian it was not the captain speaking.
It was not the captain, the voice you can hear is 3rd in command Andres Tammes. He did not survive, his body was retrieved from the bridge on one of the early dives
The crew of Silja europa deserve all respect in the world!!!
Such an great communication between all the ships involved, what an amazing team work in order to rescue Estonia. Such a shame it was too late when they arrived at the scene. My heart goes to all those who lost their life's, all the survivors and their families. RIP Estonia ❤️
The "they are in the sea" gave me chills
timestamp?
@@jasmin-po8mi 12:10 around there and a few seconds forward, its chillin when they see the gravity of the situation
Specially considering Estonia had almost 1000 people and to realise they are already in the sea what a disaster it must be with that many people on the ship, I would just think specially with the storm how will anyone be able to survive this.
I remember that i was in second grade in scool, i remember going out from home to start my walk to scool, about over a km away, weather in the morning was really bad, it was windy, it rained, there were falles trees every where, and it was kind of dark, arrived at scool and director of the scool ordered all classes to the meeting hall, then she said that Estonia went down in the early morning hours.
So all of the students and teachers took a minute of silence for the victims.
This sparked my interest in ferry, mainly Estonia at first, but later it grow to all shipclasses, and beacuse all of this i ended up being a searescuer in my time off from the dayjob
i hear army gyu it happens just then is rally on
I know nothing about sea travel but those guys seems really professional and disciplined. Must be a very difficult situation and they all handled it so elegantly.
3:40 you can actually hear a bridge window giving in and the sea flowing into the bridge. "Looks really bad now." they were in such state of shock but handled the situation as they could. Also the radio contact with Estonia breaks after that.
You can hear it
Radio contact breaks because it was jammed. M/S Estonia collided with USA sub, thats why its covered up!
@@Agur.Acome on man, thats nonsense and you know it
@erynoicee Especially now that a second investigation has confirmed that it was due to the visor falling off. Isn't it tragedy enough that if a proper examination had been made, the MS Estonia would never have been declared seaworthy, without involving conspiracies?
@@Agur.A sure. And i'm writing thing on planet Mars.
I'd like to apologize in advance for the poor story-telling. It's never been a strength of mine.
I remember entering my old principal's office and noticing a lot of boat-related items such as a model of a sailing ship, some boat knots, and more. He also had a framed picture of Estonia on his wall.
I liked him a lot. Whenever we had lunch at the same time we often sat together and spoke. He is a very funny and nice guy. He was the kind of person who doesn't take anything in life for granted.
Not far before graduating from his school, I learnt that he is one of the few survivors of Estonia. I never had the balls to personally ask him about this, but a mutual friend of ours told me a lot about it. Hearing this made me think of him. I hope he's doing great.
I found this by accident and stayed for the entire thing. It's good to see the comradery of the Sea is still strong.
Listen very closely at 3:40,. and you can hear a whoosh along with an indistinct clattering right before the transmission ends. What most likely transpired was that the list had by then developed to plus 70 degrees, and the windows at the far end of the starboard side shattered by the waves. The swhoosh is the water entering the bridge and the clattering is from the loose objects accumulated at the bridge's starboard being displaced.
"It's looking really bad... really bad right now..."
I can only imagine what he's feeling, but as he says that, he's probably holding on to dear life on a bridge that's visibly going vertical, staring down at the ingressing sea just meters below himself.
His next transmission is his last...
Well honorable that hes trying to get help rather than panicking and trying to escape
they couldnt jump out and swim?
@@randomrazr they had duties to fulfill. Had they abandoned the bridge when they had the chance, they would've never given Estonia's coordinates and everyone would've drowned and froze. Also, when the water pressure was enough to break the bridge's windows, they only had seconds to react before the entire bridge went below the waterline.
Andres Tammes (third officer in MS Estonia) last transmission was: "It was clear what you said" to Silja Europa
@@randomrazr I think they were in a storm at the time of the accident so it would not have helped. I think many people died because of the storm.
As a sailor myself, always pay my respect on the 28 of September, on the memorial in Tallinn...
probably one of the darkest things on youtube
This and rocket ship explosions
@stok3d99 the sad truth
@@Guy.WhoAsked Or the millions of Covid deaths...
@@herrbonk3635 What millions? Covis has the same death rate as any other flu.
@@freddyfox5002 Millions are dead and ten times more are injured for live with brain damage (thousands of small strokes), heavily reduced lung capacity due to damaged blood vessels and scar tissue. Plus other irreparable problems. The same happens in many other organs in the body, which leads to a higher risk for cancer later in life. Even many kids are severely ill in long term Covid (at least 215 kids in Stockholm alone).
And Covid-19 is no flu virus... It's related to cold viruses, a completely different family, with completely different properties.
Scary hearing those sounds in the background of Estonia, at the Mayday call there's something violently shaking in the background and when he gives the final part of the cordinates it sounds like water is storming in to the bridge. Rest in peace to everyone who went down with the ship. 🙏
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@ 3:39 you can hear shit falling down in the background on the Estonia. Next call is "It's looking really bad here now". I believe him.
You're right.
If im not wrong it wasnt stuff falling it was crew members.
That's fuckin crazy
@@swen6390 The ship probably would have been at a 60-70 degree list at that point. Water was about to reach the bridge.
what happened in 0:30?
Amzing how they keep calm and well cooperate. Its literaly minutes before sinking they managed to shout their position via radio that probably saved the ones in the water... RIP
My god, after all these years, this is still so chilling. May all the victims rest in peace forever.
This is the most chilling thing I've ever heard. I've only listened to 3 minutes and I can't take it any more.
Lol weak
djxearo SKJJAJSJSJDKKS
djxearo not funny ❤️
xTaivas 😭😭😭
@@djxearo problem?
Amazing to listen to.
These guys are so professional arranging helicopter lifts and a major rescue and their so cool and calm.
It's when the first ship on scene says there is no sign of the Estonia and the guy say's "oh OK" but you can hear in his voice "oh shit this is really bad".
The mechanics in the engine room of the estonia are madlalds they stayed in the ship keeping power until the ship was already in a 90 degree angle to the right and then escaped trough the funnel on the last second and survived like holy shit.
They saved a lot of lives by doing that.
If the lights go out and the people have to figure out how to get out in complete darkness, the survival chances for anyone still inside the ship plummets.
@@MidWitPride almost everyone died, the lights really didn't help much
@@hyljix And even more of the "almost everyone" would have died without them.
@@MidWitPride the list was already incredibly bad before any lights could have gone off that people couldn't climb up the stairs. If you didn't immediately leave you had no hope after only a few minutes. So if the lights went off earlier it would have no effect, everyone was already trapped
I do think the mechanics were amazing, vary brave, and helped keep the power on so that other ships could get the Estonia’s coordinates, many people has already died from being rocked back and forth. The hallways of the ship became elevator shafts and many people died from just falling trying to get to the stairs. Many people in that ship just gave up on survival and sat in a corner hugging their children, waiting for death. 😔
My dad worked as a truck driver here in sweden and he had routes between Estonia Norway and Finland and he was sick that week so his friend took over his route but sadly enough he didnt return RIP all people who dide
Ledsen! Min kära kompis som körde tradare mellan Borås och Moskva förlorade också livet!. Så jävla ledsamt! Kram!
gotta respect how the silja europa radio man speaks swedish and finnish perfectly so he is bale to be the middle man easily
Radio trafiken från Silja Europa Var ju så jädrans bra! Han/dom hade kontroll på allt nästan! Imponerande!! Tack!
Most crew on Silja Line are bilingual, since both languages are official Finnish languages. Viking Line crew usually don't speak Finnish, though.
Swedish is a mandatory school subject in Finland and it's another of our countrie's Official languages.
@@isadoramoon7521 These People Are Native Swedish speakers - WHO has learned Finnish !
@@teresaspicer4829 They Are from Åland - Where They Dont learn Finnish ! Thank God - IT was SILJA LINE - that took care of EVERYBODY !
At first it sounded like they were too relaxed about it, too laid back. But listening back to this again, i realise that it was the middle of the night and most crews were tired, and they kept their calm to do everything efficiently and quickly. Hats off to Europa and Mariella crews, Greetings from Latvia.
I think they simply couldn't believe that things could be so bad.
It's one thing that they're tired because it's at night and second thing that the way Finns speak is kinda non energic but third they simply couldn't believe the situation was so bad. They thought they would find Estonia without power floating slightly tilted. The captains couldn't believe their radar when the boat disappeared.
I work with rescue operations and this was all they could do. Remember, boats this big can't travel fast. I give full eloge to all captains woken up in the middle of beaty sleep and made all they could do.
My servant, a fire brigade - the rescuer (commander of the rescue squad) - has provided the same. The rescue operation was free of errors. they all did the best they could. And the operation was really very coordinated.
Not completely free of errors - there were some terrible things that happened, including a raft that was dropped back into the sea and the passengers vanished. But given the circumstances, there's nothing better they could have done.
@@TheThirdFall oh dear. How terrible. Do you know how that happened and how many people were lost?
@@someonewhosupportukraine Allright who was pu first peron you contact?
@@rmwilson8044 The Bow visir broke loose from the boat in rough sea and the boat sunk ... 852 souls lost.
Laiva uppoo ja sitten "hyvää huomenta, puhutko sä suomea?"
Random user arvaa mitä luo ihmettää
Pitäähän aina tervehtiä
Siis mitä? Voisitko täsmentää...
Joo puhun suomea
He could might as well say "Hyvää huomenta. Olen vielä elämässä, mutta ei enää kauan. [Good morning. I am alive yet, but only for a short time.]"
The thing that sends shivers down my spine is hearing all the alarms going off in the background on the bridge of Estonia during their transmissions. I can picture the scene perfectly and it must have been utterly terrifying. RIP.
It's scary to think that right now at this time, 30 years ago this was a live discussion... 😢
Proud of those captains coming to the rescue. Hats off.
Rest in Peace to all the victims.
I dont wear hats
@@imonoke7903 and still you take your time to address it? Fucking idiot.
Its really sad... and especially when you understand some of what they’re saying. They sound so scared...
3:40 it sounds like water rushing into the room in that moment
Yeah, its the bridge window giving in
@@hullzor970 I think it might be the loose contents inside of the bridge falling when the ship is listing further I could be wrong though.
@@hullzor970 I don't think so. I think it's just disturbance from the radio. Although you can clearly hear something moving in the background, most likely furniture.
@@CuntLucifer I think so too.
12:24 "De är i sjön!" / "They're in the Sea!"
complete chills when the captain of Silja Europa immediately - upon receiving the information from Mariella about lights and stuff in the sea - blunts out this fact
up until then it had been like, well, what's happened, Estonia is obviously in some difficulties or she wouldn't have called in the mayday, but let's go there and check it out.. and then this guy just cuts through it all with no bullshit and no hesitance
I've read an interview somewhere about this, and they thought that it was just MS Estonia overreacting. The crew of MS Estonia were inexperienced and had behaved rather stupidly in the past, so you're right, the shock in his voice is really something. It would have been unthinkable for them for a ship to simply sink, though the same thing actually happened a year early with a Polish ship Jan Heweliusz.
this gave me complete chills
He says "dom är i sjön"
@@alpinweissIf my teacher from elementary school caught me spelling "de" as "dom", she'd be frustrated with me.
@@alpinweiss It's pronounced "dom" in spoken language.. and written "de"