We have a vid coming out stating Ford should have called it the "Transit Outback". $12k, or something like that? for an AGM battery, Plastic Fenders, hockey pucks and... clearance lights. You'd def. be better off spending that money on the aftermarket to make the Transit a more capable adventure van.
@@Noisycowonline Trail package includes options that can be added to the regular transit (HID headlights, 12" display, dual batteries, keyless entry, push start, etc). If you are to add those options to the regular transit it would cost you about $7k. So trail off-road add-ons cost about $5k.
@@Artmac375 Awe correct, I just meant the WHOLE trail package is $12k. $5k would definitely be better spent on non-OEM suspension, tire upgrades - thank.
Thank you for the video and explanation of what they did. I watched the other video from Vandoit where they compared a Q-lift van to the Trail Transit. My initial thoughts was the Trail Transit lift was better. However now I see some other drawbacks of the Trail Transit lift. That intercooler drop and extra body cladding has me thinking it might not be the best route either. It's great that we have more options but in the end nothing is really a great option. The passenger side short axle shaft is still our nemesis. I just want some better shocks and about 1" of lift. Keep everything as close to stock as possible and run some Falken Wildpeak A/TW4 in a 243/75/16 ( 30.3 x 9.8 ) vs the stock of 235/65/16 ( 28.1 x 9.4 ). Any status on when your new front shocks will come out?
If what you're showing us and saying is accurate then to spend the additional $12,000 to get the "Trail" package is ludicrous. The vital parts, tranny, radiator, etc that you pointed out got lowered so ground clearance is the same as if you buy a regular Transit. Didn't anyone in ford's engineering department see this? Thanks for sharing this.
Im glad I ordered a Cargo if I don't have enough clearance for my needs then ill look into getting a lift. This doesn't seem like a lift. Its just the body is higher and that sounds like a negative.
It shouldn't, but you would want to clarify that with the dealer doing your service work. That's just not a guarantee we can make for you though, ultimately the dealer can try to refuse what they want.
The centre of gravity becomes higher, although he is saying lowered to everything, in relation to the road the main body has become higher and all the associated parts have remained the same height, the spacers have created a body lift
Don't pick it up, buy a regular cargo & do the lift kit, "Transit Trail" sounds lame & expensive. I have a 22 AWD cargo, I've done some stuff to it, lift & tires being one. I waited a year for mine & they charged an extra 4K from the time I ordered, I was pissed but bought it anyway, I got the turbo.
They really didn't have a choice, details on the lift were very limited. Even the Qlift details are/were very limited. They still won't sell that kit (only authorized dealer) cuz they are afraid it will get copied. They charge an arm and a leg for some metal drop brackets. Cost to produce these parts is maybe $300 bucks. They have R&D time invested but what they are charging is excessive...at least IMOP.
You can hear the frustration with the new design even though he's doing his best to stay as diplomatic as possible 🤣
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Love the transparency of this video! Much needed info on the transit trail for sure.
We have a vid coming out stating Ford should have called it the "Transit Outback". $12k, or something like that? for an AGM battery, Plastic Fenders, hockey pucks and... clearance lights. You'd def. be better off spending that money on the aftermarket to make the Transit a more capable adventure van.
It’s not $12k, it’s about $5k extra
@@Artmac375 It's $12k for the Trail Package.
@@Noisycowonline Trail package includes options that can be added to the regular transit (HID headlights, 12" display, dual batteries, keyless entry, push start, etc). If you are to add those options to the regular transit it would cost you about $7k. So trail off-road add-ons cost about $5k.
@@Artmac375 Awe correct, I just meant the WHOLE trail package is $12k. $5k would definitely be better spent on non-OEM suspension, tire upgrades - thank.
@@Noisycowonline you are probably correct. Idk how much it would cost to get a q-lift.
Thank you for the video and explanation of what they did. I watched the other video from Vandoit where they compared a Q-lift van to the Trail Transit. My initial thoughts was the Trail Transit lift was better. However now I see some other drawbacks of the Trail Transit lift. That intercooler drop and extra body cladding has me thinking it might not be the best route either. It's great that we have more options but in the end nothing is really a great option. The passenger side short axle shaft is still our nemesis. I just want some better shocks and about 1" of lift. Keep everything as close to stock as possible and run some Falken Wildpeak A/TW4 in a 243/75/16 ( 30.3 x 9.8 ) vs the stock of 235/65/16 ( 28.1 x 9.4 ). Any status on when your new front shocks will come out?
Wow! I'll stick with the VC lift thank you😁 This is lameskiis 1000😆
If what you're showing us and saying is accurate then to spend the additional $12,000 to get the "Trail" package is ludicrous. The vital parts, tranny, radiator, etc that you pointed out got lowered so ground clearance is the same as if you buy a regular Transit. Didn't anyone in ford's engineering department see this? Thanks for sharing this.
Great video, the Sprinter still has it over the Transit and the ProMaster, in my opinion.
lol not even close. The MB is a reliability nightmare. Wouldn’t trust driving that lump anywhere. Transit is far more dependable
They all have their issues.
Im glad I ordered a Cargo if I don't have enough clearance for my needs then ill look into getting a lift. This doesn't seem like a lift. Its just the body is higher and that sounds like a negative.
Does your lift void the warranty? That’s the whole reason I went with a trail for a factory lift and bigger tires. Fml…
It shouldn't, but you would want to clarify that with the dealer doing your service work. That's just not a guarantee we can make for you though, ultimately the dealer can try to refuse what they want.
Thank you! Can you offer insight into how Ford will fix the Tire Rubbing Recall on the Trail models?
They are going to install stock transit size tires on the vans.
@@AJourneyOfYourSoul with stock transit tires there is no increase to the clearance
@@Artmac375 correct. It’s a lazy way to address the issue.
@@AJourneyOfYourSoulvery lazy but probably profitable.
When you say they dropped everything, sounds like the new design lowers the center of gravity. Wouldn't this mean a more stable van?
The centre of gravity becomes higher, although he is saying lowered to everything, in relation to the road the main body has become higher and all the associated parts have remained the same height, the spacers have created a body lift
Is this only on 24 transit trails or are they all like this?
I would assume they are all like this.
Ford continuing the Detroit legacy.....
🤦♂️ I ordered one over a year ago it hasn’t even showed up. I suppose I’ll have to bring it to you if I decide to pick it up.
I ordered mine almost 2 years now, they still haven't made it. I gave up and went a different direction, glad I did.
Don't pick it up, buy a regular cargo & do the lift kit, "Transit Trail" sounds lame & expensive. I have a 22 AWD cargo, I've done some stuff to it, lift & tires being one. I waited a year for mine & they charged an extra 4K from the time I ordered, I was pissed but bought it anyway, I got the turbo.
They lifted the body.
is the Transit Trail lift a copycat version of the QLift?
Nope they are different, Q-lift only drops the front diff and subframe. Engine and exhaust stays tucked up.
I feel sad for the owners who waited so long for smoke and mirrors
They really didn't have a choice, details on the lift were very limited. Even the Qlift details are/were very limited. They still won't sell that kit (only authorized dealer) cuz they are afraid it will get copied. They charge an arm and a leg for some metal drop brackets. Cost to produce these parts is maybe $300 bucks. They have R&D time invested but what they are charging is excessive...at least IMOP.
The van is bad ass it’s not a rock crawler lol
Looks like Ford got lazy on this.
I don’t understand why Americans still use Imperial measurements. What the hell does 2 3/8” look like? Why not just nice simple mm?