Thanks Russell! I have a few I'm doing this way and trying to get feed in them especially..most are doing good though except for a pesky possum I haven't got yet,man those are bee eating dudes ..
Thanks, that's how I like to do it.. if I can't find a good one I'll give em a decent one with nurse bees, but huge brood frames make a noticeable difference
We don't have the snow like when I was a kid usually, but it's damp freezing don't wanna walk to the car for months..we did get 18 in snow last year and a few small ones, hopefully no more winter vortex ,that killed 6 of mine that almost made it to spring
Maybe mr Gadget can help.. Brian, can l send a video to John like a mail ? I'm using Viber for that stuff over here.. don't know if you have that. My knowlage of internet is 10 years behind.. and i think John isn't better 😁.
@@badassbees3680 yap, me too. I think we could say something nice about that Gadget-Bag on his next video. Brian, when l OAV a two box hive.. It's 2 gram.. then after i do the apiary i come back with the second round and do 2 more grams on every hive with 2 box. But it works better on one box. Bees are very good to ventilate the stuff in the corners, around the cluster when they have the space.. so i do two time 2 gram in under 30min. It's not easy with brood in.. you guys should use formic. If you can buy licvid formic 60% strong i'll give you the recipe for a sponge on top of the hive. We used it for years on 30c every summer.. before brood breaks and OAV
@@researcherAmateur I only tease people I like,if I don't like em I won't ever give em a hard time ..man I have a terrible time with formic absconding bees even in cool temps , even at half strength
Rite cell is the way to go. I wait till supers are off for Oxalic acid even though it’s approved. Had terrible winter loses so this year was a rebuilding year for me. Don’t worry John I’m still sending you some knot weed honey. Spinning it off tomorrow. Keep up the good work buddy.
You gotta be kidding me!!! Man..dude that's Awesome I'm so excited that's the coolest thing I have heard all day! Talk about a great way to end a tough day lol I gotta make it up to you somehow!
I've had time to think about your comment, and let me tell you something.. Every single beekeeper that wants to be a good beekeeper needs to have heavy , devastating losses #Facts. Every beekeeper that has had that happen has the upper hand.There are many lessons from that experience, from many angles, some are controllable, some aren't. Somes science,somes art..but everyone needs to be humbled,I think everyone should HAVE to lose it all or damn near to shape them and learn those valuable lessons worth Gold...Your lucky because you won't allow the same things to happen, not the same way.Youve learned what it takes to bounce back and what it takes to recover from it and realize the severity..You've also learned something golden..what you're made of and what you can accomplish.Every successful person failed and learned along the way,it's not a bad thing,it's a good thing man,it's a set back I get it,it's expensive too, but now it's behind you and it's time to shine,me too,watch what I do..I'm gonna kill it, you are too..most people are spoiled and never had to dig deep,head to the sky and handle it..I got your back bro, you need a queen,say the word.You need some advice, holler.💯
wish i only had 2 hrs of work this month. look for food, I have to tell that to people all the time. I think the OA recrystallizes without getting int the honey, and dosnt stay in the wax. that said smoking it sucks.
@@badassbees3680 I dont think enough gets in the honey from the short time it is in vapor form to change the amount that is already there. its still best to plan treatment when supers are not on, but if you find a hive thats really bad you can treat
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 you may be right, the part where it goes from gas to crystal instantly might keep it low..I've always said if brood chamber is open honey not capped it's probably contaminate.. but I've read for last 7 years there's absolutely no way to poison yourself, but I've also read differently for 7 years..there's so many variables,my end conclusion is it's probably fine but not something I'd wanna keep eating due to kidney stones.It may be permissible to them but not to me..they let me eat heartburn medicine for years before they outlawed it,I kinda feel their levels that their ok with and the level I'm ok with is different..I do DEFINITELY believe it should be legal option for beekeepers,most definitely I think it should be allowed, without any doubt..
People keep saying "it's a SOFT Acid " like there's no danger to it except for breathing it and it's really misleading because even though it's something people should check out instead of just listening,alot of people just listen to the people on You Tube and if it's no big deal wear a mask...they think it's no big deal,it's organic, you just don't wanna breathe it... well lemon juice is just organic acid too until you squirt it in your eyes 😂🤣😂 I just thought someone needed to admit or say it maybe gentle compared to some but it's still harmful and share ways to limit oxalates
@@badassbees3680 Yeah I know better. I have been trained in all kinds of situations. I do a lot of work in treatment plants so I have the good respirators I wear. The littlest exposure to some things is deadly so I am not messing around. I have passed two kidney stones this year and it is no fun.
First. I have over 200 that look like that and the wasps are doing the selection. The island is full of them after a summer without rain. We are infested.. l'll send you a video
Put a one inch hole 3/4 way up in gallon jugs or any jug..put sugar syrup,then put dead wasp in them..it'll fill all the way up and not catch bees because wasp are there,a few jugs will eliminate thousands, for real.It might not be enough there,it really, really helps here..they don't kill many hives, but they fly everywhere and annoy me.. they fly in hives when I have lids off ,pisses me off and then I put jugs out and it quits .In spring I catch queen yellow jackets and wasp and extinct them practically some years..their bout ready to get trapped this year,I'm sick of em buzzing around my face 😂🤣😂
@@badassbees3680 I have milions.. They fill traps made of hive bodys with glass for a cover in 1h.. a jug is full before i can put it in place. I can't send a video.. too long. I'll take some pictures. Dark beer and sugar 1/1 + apple vinager is what we use.. but when they are hungre like this you can put anything.. bees can't come close from the amount of wasps.. yellow jackets are the worse. Their swarms are biger than the bees swarm
@@badassbees3680 two sting me today.. flying everywhere.. entered under my shirt. And the bees can't work.. little bastards keep attacking the entrance.. But i'll kill inaf in cuple of days. There is a bucket of them every day
Oxalic acid is no joke…if I remember correctly, lemon juice is good. I do have a question that you or someone can help. I goofed on an order and got an 8 frame hive set. Would it be better to leave a supper on (with the 2 deep boxes) in the winter since they are short 4 frames? Indiana has a pretty long winter. Thanks
I think less is better if you don't think you really need to Leave super on.. personally I think your OA treatments will be more effective , and should be able to pack 150-160 lbs of honey in dbl 8 I'd think...BUT ask a local,or gauge off past experiences,if you're normally low on stores before spring in ten frames I'd probably definitely leave it on (without excluder of course for anyone reading).I don't see no harm really in leaving it except I think it's easier for them to maintain heat in only two boxes and would winter stronger come spring, some may argue that but I think so.. however if their packed I wouldn't hesitate to leave a super on,I do it here alot cause I don't have to store em that way.If they weren't a nice big cluster I'd definitely remove it though..I have some I wouldn't want cold honey above sucking warmth outta hive even if bees only heat the cluster,it still warms the box.. maybe some stuff to consider, sorry no definitive answer...
@@badassbees3680 thanks for the indept...this is my second year and figured less is best (two deep). I was thinking about leaving the excluder out and keeping it on if the are pact full. One of those gambling try things...but I'm Polish and not lucky 🤣🤣😪 Thanks man!
@@a3skywarrior929 😂🤣😂 don't let anyone tell you you will kill your bees if you look in them..I mean within reason..pop lid if you can stick hive tool in comb and pull out honey you can least know it's there..if there all on top of the frames their probably starving,10 seconds can tell alot.. you don't do anything cause you think their starving but it's too cold and let them starve, they definitely die.. don't pull frames, but quick lid pop very early spring , still freezing..I do if I'm worried.This is the key, remember this.Feed heavy and get the food IN THE COMBS starting soon, don't wait and have open honey frames everywhere.Emergecy feeding sucks and only better than nothing,feed a gallon or more at a time and get that food in there and capped.You maybe don't need to feed with your fall flow, but if you do get it in there before this months over.
@@badassbees3680 Definitely will be making sure. Up here they are still bringing in some pollen (I usually look to see what's going in before work in the afternoon). I planted various local wild flowers around the farm and didn't kill off the clover in the yard (always on them). Additionally, I'll be feeding them to make sure they are full and for the making of winter bees. Many thanks Brother for taking your time with me!
It must be really comforting for people to buy honey knowing the hives are gassed with oxalic acid with the honey supers on , I understand mites are a problem for beekeepers there , thankfully none here in Australia yet, the day it happens here I’ll never buy a drop of honey again , kidney stones ouch not something I want , is there any other method than using chemicals for mite treatment ? , just curious ,
You can use brood breaks,cage your queen for 15 days..use drone brood frames for trap frames and freeze em and kill mites, to name a few..OA is organic and found in leafy green vegetables and also is naturally occurring in honey...but it's not the same as adding a couple scoops and fogging it full and calling it good lol not to me and my yard at least...the saying is it won't contaminate and some say it'll disappear in two weeks... well I know bees remove it from frames and hive in 2 weeks but NOT the honey..I don't see no way of removing it from open cells not wax capped yet ,nor would they I wouldn't think except for consuming it. Some say a little can kill ya, some say it'd be next to impossible..I say they are ok with us eating poison long as it's ten parts per million and to each their own,their honey,their choice..as for me I won't do it, don't feel safe, don't feel right about it, and it will not happen to my family or yours if it comes out of my hive.. just my opinion for my bees and my honey...it could be safe, but it doesn't feel right in my gut, and I always trust my instincts!
@@badassbees3680 ... Thank you bad ass bees , awesome reply , I’m hearing you , chemicals in my mind just don’t sit right with me eather , the drone brood comb for trapping mites think I got that right is something I never heard of , very interesting great idea if it works and doesn’t upset the hive function to much etc , some Australians are saying here it’s only a matter of time before we have mites , I’m not sure how they come to this conclusion but if in any case we did start having this situation we got some knowledge on how to handle them , love the videos mate , I’ll see if I can find some info on mites treating them without gassing and with a more natural approach if it’s possible, happy bee keeping brother . 👍
@@fishmut I've read the mites are migrating towards you,I read something about the heat has kept them away?? If we didn't have mites it'd be alot easier for us, but it's part of it here and I'm just breeding survivors and only the best genetics,I've seen what most people think is good and then what I think is good.I don't mean that in an ass way,I've just been fortunate to experience the difference
Thanks for watching everyone!!
Wow! I didn't know that about the Oxalic Acid. I love watching you work your hives
Thanks Linda!
Great advice brother!
Thanks!
🍋Lemon juice or lemonade is just great for flushing your system in general.😉👍
Good tips John. That will be a big boost for the little hive.
Thanks Russell! I have a few I'm doing this way and trying to get feed in them especially..most are doing good though except for a pesky possum I haven't got yet,man those are bee eating dudes ..
Thanks brother!!!!!
Thanks Bro!
Nice frame added.
Thanks, that's how I like to do it.. if I can't find a good one I'll give em a decent one with nurse bees, but huge brood frames make a noticeable difference
@@badassbees3680 ia am guessing that additional frame will densely cover 3 frames when hatched,, it would be a nice follow-up... thanks
@@jimrupp7549 10-4 I can do that for you all!
Nice brood frame there at 4:46 John. Southern Missouri winters, come to NE Ohio where we get Lake effect snow for 4 months. .
We don't have the snow like when I was a kid usually, but it's damp freezing don't wanna walk to the car for months..we did get 18 in snow last year and a few small ones, hopefully no more winter vortex ,that killed 6 of mine that almost made it to spring
Maybe mr Gadget can help.. Brian, can l send a video to John like a mail ? I'm using Viber for that stuff over here.. don't know if you have that. My knowlage of internet is 10 years behind.. and i think John isn't better 😁.
@@researcherAmateur 😂🤣😂 yeah I'm more like gimme a sledgehammer, I'll fix it...lol
@@badassbees3680 yap, me too. I think we could say something nice about that Gadget-Bag on his next video.
Brian, when l OAV a two box hive.. It's 2 gram.. then after i do the apiary i come back with the second round and do 2 more grams on every hive with 2 box. But it works better on one box. Bees are very good to ventilate the stuff in the corners, around the cluster when they have the space.. so i do two time 2 gram in under 30min.
It's not easy with brood in.. you guys should use formic. If you can buy licvid formic 60% strong i'll give you the recipe for a sponge on top of the hive. We used it for years on 30c every summer.. before brood breaks and OAV
@@researcherAmateur I only tease people I like,if I don't like em I won't ever give em a hard time ..man I have a terrible time with formic absconding bees even in cool temps , even at half strength
Rite cell is the way to go. I wait till supers are off for Oxalic acid even though it’s approved. Had terrible winter loses so this year was a rebuilding year for me. Don’t worry John I’m still sending you some knot weed honey. Spinning it off tomorrow. Keep up the good work buddy.
You gotta be kidding me!!! Man..dude that's Awesome I'm so excited that's the coolest thing I have heard all day! Talk about a great way to end a tough day lol I gotta make it up to you somehow!
I've had time to think about your comment, and let me tell you something.. Every single beekeeper that wants to be a good beekeeper needs to have heavy , devastating losses #Facts. Every beekeeper that has had that happen has the upper hand.There are many lessons from that experience, from many angles, some are controllable, some aren't. Somes science,somes art..but everyone needs to be humbled,I think everyone should HAVE to lose it all or damn near to shape them and learn those valuable lessons worth Gold...Your lucky because you won't allow the same things to happen, not the same way.Youve learned what it takes to bounce back and what it takes to recover from it and realize the severity..You've also learned something golden..what you're made of and what you can accomplish.Every successful person failed and learned along the way,it's not a bad thing,it's a good thing man,it's a set back I get it,it's expensive too, but now it's behind you and it's time to shine,me too,watch what I do..I'm gonna kill it, you are too..most people are spoiled and never had to dig deep,head to the sky and handle it..I got your back bro, you need a queen,say the word.You need some advice, holler.💯
@@badassbees3680 Dwfinitely buddy that would be awesome.
@@badassbees3680 You ain’t lying. Thank John I appreciate it. Keep the videos coming. We all learn so much from you.
wish i only had 2 hrs of work this month. look for food, I have to tell that to people all the time. I think the OA recrystallizes without getting int the honey, and dosnt stay in the wax. that said smoking it sucks.
I mean uncapped honey ,it has to get in it doesn't it ?
@@badassbees3680 I dont think enough gets in the honey from the short time it is in vapor form to change the amount that is already there. its still best to plan treatment when supers are not on, but if you find a hive thats really bad you can treat
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 you may be right, the part where it goes from gas to crystal instantly might keep it low..I've always said if brood chamber is open honey not capped it's probably contaminate.. but I've read for last 7 years there's absolutely no way to poison yourself, but I've also read differently for 7 years..there's so many variables,my end conclusion is it's probably fine but not something I'd wanna keep eating due to kidney stones.It may be permissible to them but not to me..they let me eat heartburn medicine for years before they outlawed it,I kinda feel their levels that their ok with and the level I'm ok with is different..I do DEFINITELY believe it should be legal option for beekeepers,most definitely I think it should be allowed, without any doubt..
I do not need anymore kidney stones. Going to have to be more careful while treating with acid.
People keep saying "it's a SOFT Acid " like there's no danger to it except for breathing it and it's really misleading because even though it's something people should check out instead of just listening,alot of people just listen to the people on You Tube and if it's no big deal wear a mask...they think it's no big deal,it's organic, you just don't wanna breathe it... well lemon juice is just organic acid too until you squirt it in your eyes 😂🤣😂 I just thought someone needed to admit or say it maybe gentle compared to some but it's still harmful and share ways to limit oxalates
@@badassbees3680 Yeah I know better. I have been trained in all kinds of situations. I do a lot of work in treatment plants so I have the good respirators I wear. The littlest exposure to some things is deadly so I am not messing around. I have passed two kidney stones this year and it is no fun.
First. I have over 200 that look like that and the wasps are doing the selection. The island is full of them after a summer without rain. We are infested.. l'll send you a video
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Put a one inch hole 3/4 way up in gallon jugs or any jug..put sugar syrup,then put dead wasp in them..it'll fill all the way up and not catch bees because wasp are there,a few jugs will eliminate thousands, for real.It might not be enough there,it really, really helps here..they don't kill many hives, but they fly everywhere and annoy me.. they fly in hives when I have lids off ,pisses me off and then I put jugs out and it quits .In spring I catch queen yellow jackets and wasp and extinct them practically some years..their bout ready to get trapped this year,I'm sick of em buzzing around my face 😂🤣😂
@@badassbees3680 I have milions.. They fill traps made of hive bodys with glass for a cover in 1h.. a jug is full before i can put it in place.
I can't send a video.. too long. I'll take some pictures. Dark beer and sugar 1/1 + apple vinager is what we use.. but when they are hungre like this you can put anything.. bees can't come close from the amount of wasps.. yellow jackets are the worse. Their swarms are biger than the bees swarm
@@researcherAmateur 😳 scratch the jug idea.. you need a flamethrower lol get a lighter and aerosol can lol
@@badassbees3680 two sting me today.. flying everywhere.. entered under my shirt.
And the bees can't work.. little bastards keep attacking the entrance.. But i'll kill inaf in cuple of days. There is a bucket of them every day
Oxalic acid is no joke…if I remember correctly, lemon juice is good.
I do have a question that you or someone can help. I goofed on an order and got an 8 frame hive set. Would it be better to leave a supper on (with the 2 deep boxes) in the winter since they are short 4 frames? Indiana has a pretty long winter. Thanks
I think less is better if you don't think you really need to Leave super on.. personally I think your OA treatments will be more effective , and should be able to pack 150-160 lbs of honey in dbl 8 I'd think...BUT ask a local,or gauge off past experiences,if you're normally low on stores before spring in ten frames I'd probably definitely leave it on (without excluder of course for anyone reading).I don't see no harm really in leaving it except I think it's easier for them to maintain heat in only two boxes and would winter stronger come spring, some may argue that but I think so.. however if their packed I wouldn't hesitate to leave a super on,I do it here alot cause I don't have to store em that way.If they weren't a nice big cluster I'd definitely remove it though..I have some I wouldn't want cold honey above sucking warmth outta hive even if bees only heat the cluster,it still warms the box.. maybe some stuff to consider, sorry no definitive answer...
@@badassbees3680 thanks for the indept...this is my second year and figured less is best (two deep). I was thinking about leaving the excluder out and keeping it on if the are pact full.
One of those gambling try things...but I'm Polish and not lucky 🤣🤣😪
Thanks man!
@@a3skywarrior929 😂🤣😂 don't let anyone tell you you will kill your bees if you look in them..I mean within reason..pop lid if you can stick hive tool in comb and pull out honey you can least know it's there..if there all on top of the frames their probably starving,10 seconds can tell alot.. you don't do anything cause you think their starving but it's too cold and let them starve, they definitely die.. don't pull frames, but quick lid pop very early spring , still freezing..I do if I'm worried.This is the key, remember this.Feed heavy and get the food IN THE COMBS starting soon, don't wait and have open honey frames everywhere.Emergecy feeding sucks and only better than nothing,feed a gallon or more at a time and get that food in there and capped.You maybe don't need to feed with your fall flow, but if you do get it in there before this months over.
@@badassbees3680 Definitely will be making sure. Up here they are still bringing in some pollen (I usually look to see what's going in before work in the afternoon). I planted various local wild flowers around the farm and didn't kill off the clover in the yard (always on them). Additionally, I'll be feeding them to make sure they are full and for the making of winter bees.
Many thanks Brother for taking your time with me!
Right on man. Weather has shifted here. Can feel the crisp in the air. Time to get orginized for winter..
Yeah it's starting to change isn't it! Be here before we know it! And then be SCRAMBLING 😂🤣😂 Like every year lol
It must be really comforting for people to buy honey knowing the hives are gassed with oxalic acid with the honey supers on , I understand mites are a problem for beekeepers there , thankfully none here in Australia yet, the day it happens here I’ll never buy a drop of honey again , kidney stones ouch not something I want , is there any other method than using chemicals for mite treatment ? , just curious ,
You can use brood breaks,cage your queen for 15 days..use drone brood frames for trap frames and freeze em and kill mites, to name a few..OA is organic and found in leafy green vegetables and also is naturally occurring in honey...but it's not the same as adding a couple scoops and fogging it full and calling it good lol not to me and my yard at least...the saying is it won't contaminate and some say it'll disappear in two weeks... well I know bees remove it from frames and hive in 2 weeks but NOT the honey..I don't see no way of removing it from open cells not wax capped yet ,nor would they I wouldn't think except for consuming it. Some say a little can kill ya, some say it'd be next to impossible..I say they are ok with us eating poison long as it's ten parts per million and to each their own,their honey,their choice..as for me I won't do it, don't feel safe, don't feel right about it, and it will not happen to my family or yours if it comes out of my hive.. just my opinion for my bees and my honey...it could be safe, but it doesn't feel right in my gut, and I always trust my instincts!
@@badassbees3680 ... Thank you bad ass bees , awesome reply , I’m hearing you , chemicals in my mind just don’t sit right with me eather , the drone brood comb for trapping mites think I got that right is something I never heard of , very interesting great idea if it works and doesn’t upset the hive function to much etc , some Australians are saying here it’s only a matter of time before we have mites , I’m not sure how they come to this conclusion but if in any case we did start having this situation we got some knowledge on how to handle them , love the videos mate , I’ll see if I can find some info on mites treating them without gassing and with a more natural approach if it’s possible, happy bee keeping brother . 👍
@@fishmut I've read the mites are migrating towards you,I read something about the heat has kept them away?? If we didn't have mites it'd be alot easier for us, but it's part of it here and I'm just breeding survivors and only the best genetics,I've seen what most people think is good and then what I think is good.I don't mean that in an ass way,I've just been fortunate to experience the difference