Eye of the Beholder on Commodore 64. Really.

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  • @retrobitstv
    @retrobitstv  Год назад +21

    The game is now available here! eotb64.com/

    • @JBOpie13
      @JBOpie13 Год назад +2

      Works with the MouSTer, by the way.

    • @SashkAleX
      @SashkAleX Год назад +2

      @@JBOpie13 thank you, sir. I was just wondering about it!

  • @Isoquant
    @Isoquant Год назад +26

    This is unbelievable! They went all out and created a modern retro masterpiece with full mouse support, 2 Mhz support, dual monitor support, lovingly crafted graphics and audio that max out the system's capabilities, and retains the full complexity of the original title... I'm speechless!

  • @ace942
    @ace942 Год назад +8

    Never had a C64 (Had an Atari 800XL) but it is impressive that on such a small system they were able to create a very faithful recreation of Eye of the Beholder. Thanks for showing the game.

  • @BadManiac
    @BadManiac Год назад +178

    This is... I'm speechless. This is incredibly impressive. A single Megahertz and 0.064MB RAM and it does this! Hang on, let me pick my jaw up off the floor...

    • @rabarebra
      @rabarebra Год назад +7

      You do not realise that you can load another 64kb from a disk image, and another one, and another one, and another? What is so impressive?

    • @X1L3
      @X1L3 Год назад +12

      @@rabarebra Where's yours?

    • @rabarebra
      @rabarebra Год назад

      @@X1L3 There.

    • @zacmussatt9267
      @zacmussatt9267 Год назад +7

      An important thing to keep in mind is that 6502 architecture is vastly different than x86. That 1ish MHz clock cycle is used a lot differently. In a way it’s more efficient than say an 8088. Arguably the c64 is a more powerful machine that an 8088 running at I believe around 4mhz.

    • @demoman1596sh
      @demoman1596sh Год назад +16

      @@rabarebra Bitter for some reason?

  • @st3ddyman
    @st3ddyman Год назад +59

    That's an incredible achievement. It looks even more beautiful running on the C64.

    • @Charles_Bro-son
      @Charles_Bro-son Год назад +1

      The more muted colour palette fits the dark sewers fantasy dungeon setting well.

  • @tubejay1
    @tubejay1 Год назад +16

    I never had a C64 or any Commodore, but I have to admit, the SID chip is freaking great. What a cool sounding chip. The raunchy distortion it produces is just so awesome and good sounding.

    • @retrobitstv
      @retrobitstv  Год назад +6

      Completely unrelated to the game but there are some great SID tunes still being made. LukHash recently released a full album for the C64 (it's also on Spotify, etc.) that's amazing! ruclips.net/user/shortsQgIVV-Zjnbg

  • @Damaniel3
    @Damaniel3 Год назад +28

    This whole thing is pretty impressive, but that dual monitor C128 mode is super slick.

    • @darkridearts
      @darkridearts Год назад +3

      I was legitimately shocked when he got to that part 😅

    • @t0xcn253
      @t0xcn253 Год назад +3

      I'm SAYING

  • @Riva1000
    @Riva1000 Год назад +4

    I started making games long time ago on 8bits, then Amiga, then 90s IBM PCs. I know all the tricks. But this, this is next level !

  • @JustWasted3HoursHere
    @JustWasted3HoursHere Год назад +29

    It warms my heart, truly, to see so much love and attention being given to retro systems nowadays, from our beloved C64 to the Atari 2600 and everything in between. This includes both hardware and software! It shows how much of an impact these old systems had on us when we were kids. Now that we have money to spend and time to burn, many of us have decided to make - or buy - these games for our own gratification. Awesome!

    • @darkridearts
      @darkridearts Год назад +2

      I love it. Modern games are just not as interesting overall.

  • @Murrlin27
    @Murrlin27 Год назад +3

    6:40 Fine! You attack the darkness!

  • @YourXavier
    @YourXavier Год назад +3

    3:35 That 3d turn is brilliant, considering the time.

  • @datriaxsondor590
    @datriaxsondor590 Год назад +21

    Wow. If this game had been made back in era, it would've blown people's minds, including my own. XD It looks incredible for the C64.
    Props to everyone involved with this. Very, very nicely done.

    • @archieil
      @archieil Год назад

      It'd cost $10k ;-)

  • @cheater00
    @cheater00 Год назад +3

    What an amazing port. Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.

  • @shaolin95
    @shaolin95 Год назад +3

    The c64...such a legend. Insane what some can do with it

  • @ArttuTheCat
    @ArttuTheCat Год назад +23

    I played EYE OF THE BEHOLDER a lot on my
    Amiga 500, and the Commodore 64 version
    of this game looks amazing 😺👍.

  • @fourthhorseman4531
    @fourthhorseman4531 Год назад +13

    That is hands down one of the most amazing things I've ever seen! I would not have thought a port of this quality possible. Amazing!

  • @space302
    @space302 Год назад +3

    I remember having a terrible outdated PC that could barely play anything anymore at that time, yet Eye Of the Beholder was running flawlessly on it, and had way more depth than I expected, I didn't even manage to finish it back then.

  • @luomotigre2803
    @luomotigre2803 Год назад +5

    Holy moly...Getting my C64 fixed, now! Was superfan of this on Amiga back in the days...and I actually think it looks better in this color palette + there is automap!

  • @LeftoverBeefcake
    @LeftoverBeefcake Год назад +12

    Since we have such awesome hardware add-ons available for the C64 now, it's wonderful that people are taking advantage of them like this. I hope this trend continues!

  • @hooankee
    @hooankee Год назад +3

    It looks like a 16 bits version. Amazing.😲

  • @lauraiss1027
    @lauraiss1027 Год назад +4

    The condition in which your monitors and console are and whole clean setup, is a sight to behold on it's own. Love when retro hardware is being looked after like that. Thank you!

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse Год назад +3

    Speaking as a person of a certain age I have no nostalgia for the C=64 having not owned one BITD ...but I own one now because I am in to retro electronics and it has to be said development for this machine is more vibrant than any other platform - hence regular minor miracles like this.
    Very well done developers! (I'm finally going to have to build myself a cartridge solution it seems)

  • @robintst
    @robintst Год назад +4

    I am utterly blown away by the quality of this port. Gotta be honest, I think I like the overall visual presentation of this more than any of the originals.

  • @earthlydescent
    @earthlydescent Год назад +19

    When developers are given time and resources, the possibilities are endless.

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b Год назад +3

      To be fair, it's a double edged sword. It can also mean games that never come out whether commercially (Duke Nukem Forever) or particularly in the Kickstarter type scenario. Constraints do tend to mean products get delivered.

    • @espressomatic
      @espressomatic Год назад +8

      Resources being the most important here. This game would not have been possible to make as a commercial product in the C64's production period for a few reasons. The most significant I believe is simply storage requirements for all the assets. Next is the intensive set of development requirements, that at the time of EoB's PC release, would have pushed a C64 port to an unsustainable budget - it would have been commercial suicide for a system past its prime even if the storage didn't make it an impossibility.
      This is a beautiful port done at a time where all the above (and more) concerns are simply non-issues. Non-commercial in nature, decades of experience doing things with the C64 that no one had time nor budget to explore when developing commercially in the 80's and products like EasyFlash (and compatible devices) offering cheap (and reusable) storage that weren't even a dream in 1991.

    • @thecappeningchannel515
      @thecappeningchannel515 Год назад

      @@espressomatic agreed. This could only work as a labor of love. Not a commercial product.

  • @kh2387
    @kh2387 Год назад +5

    I remember spending weeks on EOTB 1 and 2. Such awesome games. That intro brings back memories :)
    Having the map on a second screen would have made it so much easier :P

  • @TheLastLineLive
    @TheLastLineLive Год назад +2

    Wow, this is super impressive, visually and audibly it's amazing and that dual monitor feature is mind blowing for such an old system.

  • @bwgti
    @bwgti Год назад +3

    Everyone in the comments saying how amazing this is seems like an overreaction.
    It is not. They have taken advantage of every c64/c128 trick and technique imaginable to produce a very, very nice version of this game.
    It’s the UI that gets me. This was always a huge shortcoming on the more involved c64 games.
    This version of the music is fantastic on the SID as well.
    Incredible work.

  • @bennewnham4497
    @bennewnham4497 Год назад +2

    I was there when it came out all those years ago. This game was amazing only bettered by the sequel. People have no idea how stunning this was in 1991 well before the era of VR and CoD. It was totally immersive.

  • @t0xcn253
    @t0xcn253 Год назад +2

    Truly outstanding! With the addition of the second monitor map, I think this may really be the ideal way to play the game. Mind-blowing.

  • @YoreHistory
    @YoreHistory Год назад +3

    Just so absolutely stunning and nostalgic for this old Gen Xer to see his beloved C64 able to run a modern version of classic EOTB...what amazing work went into this.

  • @m0nde
    @m0nde Год назад +5

    Very thorough review, thanks for all of your work telling us about this amazing achievement. Super Mario Bros, Sonic and now this, I hope more ports like this come our way on the C64!

  • @mbrochh82
    @mbrochh82 Год назад +3

    this is one of my earliest childhood memories. I was watching my dad play and my job was to draw a mini map on paper while he traversed the dungeon.

  • @Virtualblueart
    @Virtualblueart Год назад +2

    I love how people keep doing amazing things with my favourite old beige breadbin.
    I would think things like this would be impossible if I didn't see it here.

  • @matthewweng8483
    @matthewweng8483 Год назад +4

    Such a cool game. Westwood made some really cool stuff... I still play my PC version when I'm itching for a nostalgia fix.

  • @steveleadbeater8662
    @steveleadbeater8662 Год назад +3

    I'm always amazed at how well the old hardware is used. I'd have bought this back in the day. Astonishingly good, Andreas may be an alien.

  • @Szederp
    @Szederp Год назад +6

    This is the first video I watch on your channel. (sry for my English I am Central Europe and I still live in Europe). Watching this video was a humbling experience. From one hand, as you mentioned, the amount of work done here is crazy, and on the other hand your video and humility also elevated my heart-rate. I am now 36 years old, I was around 7 when I got a C64. You know what? Well, you already know this but this system was fun not for so called "Gamers" ,as they are mentioned today, but it was enjoyed by the whole family. Back then I did not even know that a mouse existed for the C64, we used Datasette (magnetic tapes copied from tapes to tapes to tapes etc.). Thank you for this video. Keep this spirit alive. Greetings from Europe!

    • @scality4309
      @scality4309 Год назад

      What country are you from if i may ask?

  • @carlchapman4053
    @carlchapman4053 Год назад +4

    This was one on my all time favourites and my absolute best RPG until I got a PC and found Daggerfall but I still think of it even now, 30+ years later.

  • @L0wcash
    @L0wcash Год назад +7

    This level of quality, 2Mhz support, dual monitor support AND it's free to download?! I must be dreaming.. Amazing work from these coding gods!

    • @nneeerrrd
      @nneeerrrd Год назад +4

      You can always donate to show your support. But will ya?

    • @L0wcash
      @L0wcash Год назад

      @@nneeerrrd Sure will! But maybe there will be a dedicated cartridge version i'd like to buy..

  • @Darius12235
    @Darius12235 Год назад +2

    hot damn I want more retro fantasy gaming content. This scratched my soul deeply and left me with an unquenchable thirst for more

  • @Virtualblueart
    @Virtualblueart Год назад +3

    I never would have expected this to be possible let alone look and play this well. Amazing!

  • @andrewloranger
    @andrewloranger Год назад +4

    Wow - such an amazing feat getting this ported while making it look and feel true to the original. BRAVO!

  • @DLeif-bk3ye
    @DLeif-bk3ye Год назад +2

    Absolutely incredible.

  • @gearsofgames
    @gearsofgames Год назад +5

    This looks amazing! Supremely impressive work from the devs! Also didn't know the C128 had dual monitor output, this game certainly makes perfect use of that! 😁

  • @mattcole6230
    @mattcole6230 Год назад +2

    Just awesome! The developers must be overwhelmingly proud if this achievement!

  • @ZZKJ396
    @ZZKJ396 Год назад +32

    This would have been a monster hit back in the day, when there were millions of C64s too... these guys would have been millionaires.

    • @EFreD-ed4ds
      @EFreD-ed4ds Год назад +1

      Yes, because all the pirates from back in the day are also millionares.

    • @DanLekin
      @DanLekin Год назад

      @@EFreD-ed4ds It would have been a cartridge game - not so easy to copy.

    • @EFreD-ed4ds
      @EFreD-ed4ds Год назад +1

      @@DanLekin What does that have to do with anything?

    • @DanLekin
      @DanLekin Год назад +1

      @@EFreD-ed4ds It would have been sold pretty good, even back then when everyone had pirated games. I also had (and still have) a C64 with only a few original games, but if this game would have been this good, I would have considered to buy it and I think many people would had back then.

    • @EFreD-ed4ds
      @EFreD-ed4ds Год назад +1

      ​@@DanLekin It would not have made them millionaires though. Not by a long shot. A cartridge game may be harder to copy, but I don't see how they would manage to distribute it to a large enough market back in the eighties.

  • @TheRememdium
    @TheRememdium Год назад +1

    Oh man! Me and my older brother played this, II and III to bits when we were young and it was a game that stuck with me so many years later, easily a favorite among many.
    What better game to bring back to life. Imagine having that dual screen with the map back in the day, would have been considered cheating back then.
    Great work on the re-texturing and everything else to everyone who was involved in this. And great video.

  • @GreySectoid
    @GreySectoid Год назад +5

    This game looks incredible.

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming Год назад +1

    When I first ran Dungeon Master on my ST in 1987, it was simply jaw dropping. Running Eye of the Beholder, which was an Amiga favorite, is inconceivable to imagine running well on an earlier 8 bit.

  • @Agmanthion
    @Agmanthion Год назад +1

    your wizard looks like he's ready to attack the darkness if needed

  • @marccram6584
    @marccram6584 Год назад +1

    The artwork of the great Rick Parks who unfortunately passed away several years ago.

  • @zosxavius
    @zosxavius Год назад +2

    This is a masterpiece. Seriously impressive work here.

  • @shanilmisra
    @shanilmisra Год назад +1

    I cannot believe that I played this game on PC thirty years ago (yes thirty!!!) and even made a walkthrough for it back then. I see the walkthrough still survived (RIP to my hand-drawn maps though), and just reading it again after so many years made me smile. Back then a 'mouse' and the 'internet' were novelties, and it showed. Also I see the walkthrough has garbled characters, and even back then I must have used extended ASCII to draw lines and blocks and so on. Anyway, having owned a VIC-20 I am ASTOUNDED that this game has been released for C-64. Brings back so many fond memories both of the era of the home computer as well as the early days of PC games. Fast forwarding about 8 years through to Baldur's Gate, it shows how much the genre as well as PCs grew in such a short time. Long live this game and the fascination it brought me back then.

  • @MrMarianoamigo
    @MrMarianoamigo Год назад +8

    love c128 features

  • @mrr8702
    @mrr8702 Год назад +2

    my mouth dropped on the automap on the 2nd monitor, woooow! super cool :)

  • @rawberg_se
    @rawberg_se Год назад +1

    Achievement unlocked - C64 Ninja Master Coder
    It's mindblowing!

  • @Ephmral
    @Ephmral Год назад +2

    I loved Eye of the beholder game. This, and years later, Morrowind, were huge moments in my gaming life.

  • @CorrodedCoder
    @CorrodedCoder Год назад +1

    I can't believe he utilised a second display on the C128 - I had never heard that was even possible!

  • @stewiedarkinvisibleid
    @stewiedarkinvisibleid Год назад +2

    Unbelievable! Incredible! Back in the day, I played Dungeon Master and Eye of the Beholder 1-3 on Amiga. Those were the days!

  • @alexandredevert4935
    @alexandredevert4935 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is mindbogglingly beautiful

  • @jovmilos
    @jovmilos Год назад +4

    This might be the best C128 game ever!

  • @arcadesfreaktesco5423
    @arcadesfreaktesco5423 Год назад +1

    This port is incredible beyond belief. It's amazing how many things you can fit in 64kb of memory if you know what you are doing. Kudos to the developer.

  • @exodous02
    @exodous02 Год назад +1

    Wow, this is amazing. Imagine going back in time with this game. I guess it wouldn't be possible with the cart, that kind of space just wasn't possible.

  • @Liquidcadmus
    @Liquidcadmus Год назад +4

    This is incredible, makes you really wonder what the C64 is really capable of

  • @sikkepossu
    @sikkepossu Год назад +3

    That's unbelieveable how detailed the conversion is. I definitely need to get the boxed version if/when it is published.

    • @c128stuff
      @c128stuff Год назад

      Will there be a boxed version? This is a 'fan art' game, which uses copyrighted material. Selling it would be a quick way to get some highly undesirable attention.

    • @mjy
      @mjy Год назад

      @@c128stuff "A physical boxed edition is planned to follow."

    • @retrobitstv
      @retrobitstv  Год назад

      Here's a preview of the custom box art! twitter.com/c64pixels/status/1572552591275597824

    • @danielmantione
      @danielmantione Год назад

      @@retrobitstv I applaud that, but I also fear it: This is the point where the project will become commercial and once it becomes commercial it becomes much more likely that the copyright holders of the original game will act to protect their franchise. I hope they can appreciate the fan effort.

    • @vetodrom
      @vetodrom Год назад +1

      @@danielmantione there is a cut between the game and the box. The game will be available as fan-port not connected to the unbranded box (with fanart) and cartridge (which is compatible with eotb). It needs to be seperate to avoid licence issues, but it is IMO a reasonable way to provide a nice physical box for collectors.

  • @scality4309
    @scality4309 Год назад +2

    Wow. What a project it is.

  • @jokerzwild00
    @jokerzwild00 Год назад +1

    Holy crap. I tried to get into EotB so many times when I was a kid but I never had the patience to map for myself. With this setup I could finally finish the game. Amazing, thanks for showing this.

    • @thecappeningchannel515
      @thecappeningchannel515 Год назад

      You saved yourself much grief. EoB 1 is pretty much unmappable by hand. Especially with the resources of a kid.
      Illogical levels and lots of portals and pits. EoB 2 is more map friendly (and a lot easier).

  • @codingwithculp
    @codingwithculp Год назад +2

    Absolutely stunning.
    Love that one of the characters was named Galstaff.

    • @glenndoiron9317
      @glenndoiron9317 Год назад +3

      I cast magic missile on the darkness.

    • @Ryan-ok2ks
      @Ryan-ok2ks Год назад +1

      I almost choked on my soup when I saw that

  • @BrettLevin4096
    @BrettLevin4096 Год назад +1

    That’s amazing. It looks beautiful and the dual monitor support is super rad.

  • @bobfromsoireegames4309
    @bobfromsoireegames4309 Год назад +1

    An incredible port. I wish developers back in the day had had as much time to complete these conversions.

  • @keithbeard7133
    @keithbeard7133 Год назад +1

    Truly, a labour of love and it certainly shows! Thanks for rasing awareness of this project RB!

  • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
    @youuuuuuuuuuutube Год назад +1

    Fantastic work. Shows you how much is possible with enough time and enough memory.

  • @gardhul
    @gardhul Год назад +2

    I'm blown away. Absolutely speechless...

  • @Mysticsword
    @Mysticsword Год назад +1

    Amazing! I love those old Commodore computers (Vic-20, C64 and Amiga, which I owned them all back in the day) and also much enjoyed such classic RPGs / Dungeon-Crawler types games as presented in this video. For this game to be on a C64, it's very impressive.

  • @shaunhall960
    @shaunhall960 Год назад +1

    This was my game back in the day! Incredible skill went into making this game. Thank you so much for doing this video!

  • @MirageDU
    @MirageDU Год назад +3

    That is just awesome. Imagine showing someone back than what can be achived on this mashine.

  • @ScottDCameron
    @ScottDCameron Год назад +1

    I love that people exist in the world who take on labours of love like this

  • @IndigoIndustrial
    @IndigoIndustrial Год назад +3

    This is an impressive achievement on many levels.

  • @agahnimous
    @agahnimous Год назад +1

    Wow, that is jawdroppingly impressive. Who would have thought this possible? Amazing work.

  • @Mclaneinc
    @Mclaneinc Год назад +4

    It's not my sort of game, BUT you have to admire the level of work that has gone in to this, Amazing!!

  • @jubsy
    @jubsy Год назад +2

    Absolutely brilliant. This is so impressive!

  • @Michael-im5mq
    @Michael-im5mq Год назад +1

    The graphics in a lot of ways actually look better than the original source. And a C128 with dual monitors is an absolute unit.

    • @thorham1346
      @thorham1346 11 месяцев назад

      Not really. They're good, but not that good.

  • @retro3188
    @retro3188 Год назад +3

    Awesome! I love this port!

  • @Pergasus
    @Pergasus Год назад +1

    I'll say this: the intro melody for the C64 version beats out the DOS and Amiga versions by a wide margine, at least to me.

  • @gonzo3915
    @gonzo3915 Год назад +2

    This is truly remarkable, thanks for the video good Sir.

  • @ohioterran7374
    @ohioterran7374 Год назад +3

    Wow! This is extremely impressive!

  • @ShamblerDK
    @ShamblerDK Год назад

    I remember playing on my dads C64 back in the 80s. It's got so many great games.

  • @RetroGameStream
    @RetroGameStream Год назад +1

    Dang such a cool project and I really enjoyed how the video was presented. New fan right here!

  • @420glass
    @420glass Год назад +3

    I loved Tunnels of Doom on Ti 99

  • @Dorelaxen
    @Dorelaxen Год назад +1

    10:52 I am Galstaff, Sorcerer of Light!

  • @omnibrain3198
    @omnibrain3198 Год назад +2

    I wont switch to an Amiga with incredible games like that still coming out for the C64.

  • @Huddison
    @Huddison Год назад +2

    This is an incredible achievement - time to dig out my C64!

  • @EsaKarjalainen
    @EsaKarjalainen Год назад +8

    I wonder, could this be the best-looking game on c64/c128?

    • @SeeJayPlayGames
      @SeeJayPlayGames Год назад

      between this and Mayhem in Monster Land

    • @EsaKarjalainen
      @EsaKarjalainen Год назад

      @@SeeJayPlayGames I like the aesthetics here more. IMO "cutesy" isn't something the C64 palette does well.
      MiML is a gorgeous masterpiece, admittedly.

  • @Lofote
    @Lofote Год назад

    06:40 Summoner/volition quote 😉

  • @CommodoreGreg
    @CommodoreGreg Год назад +1

    This is incredible. This is the kind of thing you know is theoretically possible but never, ever expect to see.

  • @suadcokljat1045
    @suadcokljat1045 Год назад +2

    Dual monitor feature is great

  • @manganoid7426
    @manganoid7426 Год назад +2

    This is simply amazing. Not many things leave me in awe these days, yet this left me speechless. Itb would be cool if developers made some original games looking suck like this on c64\128 and make them exclusive for the system :D Thank you for this video :)

  • @WillCooper1
    @WillCooper1 Год назад +1

    That right screen gave me Sword of Fargaol vibes! 🙂

  • @johnny5805
    @johnny5805 Год назад +1

    If it took over 16 years, imagine how utterly optimized that code must be !!

  • @pw1169
    @pw1169 Год назад +1

    Thankyou for showing this in a CRT!!

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Год назад +1

    I remember playing the Eye Of The Beholder Trilogy on the PC in the early 90's. Fun times.