Dan Snow and Dan Jones Discuss 'The Coolest Man in Medieval History'

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @richardkrilljr.8711
    @richardkrilljr.8711 3 года назад +229

    I’d absolutely love to sit down and just listen to an endless conversation between these two brilliant guys.

    • @JointFive
      @JointFive Год назад +2

      Reciting the past does not take much, in as way of "brilliace". I do like many historians though, before I sleep

    • @nomagea2684
      @nomagea2684 Год назад

      Same here

  • @mancunian4eva332
    @mancunian4eva332 2 года назад +33

    Dan Jones books on the crusades are fascinating. He has the uncanny ability to be able to turn a very complicated history with many facets into an understandable narrative

  • @andrewcbartlett
    @andrewcbartlett 3 года назад +220

    Templars, Hospitallers, The Teutonic Knights, Sword Brothers of Livonia, The Order of St. Lazarus, The Knights who say "Ni"

    • @paulh3935
      @paulh3935 3 года назад +12

      All big on the Prog Rock scene in the 70s.

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад +5

      @@paulh3935 I am sure I saw the 'Sword Brothers of Lavonia' the supporting local band 'Sweaty Betty'. in our Arts Centre once! the Tuetonic Knights were big on The Gay Scenes, and the Order of Lazarus just died, so sad. There was a brief revival, but it fizzled out and not much more was heard of them.

    • @Min61449
      @Min61449 2 года назад +2

      That’s funny.. showing your age there. I wonder how many people got it. 😂😀

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад +1

      @@Min61449 Not many. If they haven't seen it on Netflix or been told by a Minister nothing counts.

    • @TheBreechie
      @TheBreechie 2 года назад

      @@hogwashmcturnip8930 meow!
      Boomer says what?

  • @davidgiles5030
    @davidgiles5030 3 года назад +105

    I was at the Temple when it opened one day. I went inside and for five precious minutes I had it completely to myself. Very,very cool experience.

    • @frankb821
      @frankb821 Год назад

      That is truly awesome!

  • @tigerfight85
    @tigerfight85 2 года назад +49

    I love how Dan Jones looks like a total lad but is a great historical writer

    • @ardenalexa94
      @ardenalexa94 2 года назад +8

      He is pretty cute. He doesn’t look like your stereotypical historian at all.

    • @TheKoolbraider
      @TheKoolbraider 7 месяцев назад +1

      His books are very well written and easy to read.

    • @PaddyMac
      @PaddyMac 2 месяца назад

      1:00 - 1:03 … the ‘total lad’ came out a little bit there lol 😜

  • @peglegpeete9122
    @peglegpeete9122 5 лет назад +49

    Thank you. There is never enough of either Dan's work available to us viewers in the USA.

    • @Conorp77
      @Conorp77 3 года назад

      Try on RUclips there's a tonne

  • @NijimaSan
    @NijimaSan 2 года назад +29

    When I was a kid and getting into medieval history, the name that kept popping up and got my notice was William Marshall. He was an absolute badass for virtually his entire life.

  • @LilianaVelascoAriza
    @LilianaVelascoAriza 5 лет назад +127

    After watching endless history clips I've come to be Dan's biggest fan! He makes everything so easy to understand, interesting, detailed enough to keep me at least glued to all his series! Thank you!

    • @sidp5381
      @sidp5381 4 года назад +2

      Liliana V.A. Hough definitely my favorite historian

    • @rogerlacaille3148
      @rogerlacaille3148 3 года назад +2

      I have all of his books...they're awesome! He's Brilliant!

    • @ellenmarch3095
      @ellenmarch3095 2 года назад +9

      Which one?? 🤣🤣

    • @rogerlacaille3148
      @rogerlacaille3148 2 года назад +1

      @Ellen March ..😂😂😂 Dan Jones lol

    • @MrIsntOnAGen
      @MrIsntOnAGen 2 года назад +4

      Secrets of British Castles is soooo good

  • @catherineloxton5727
    @catherineloxton5727 5 лет назад +45

    Thank you for showing Jones and Snow together as it is easy to get them mixed up. Snow is a very tall guy, which TV presenter, Jones, handles professionally enough on a one-to-one ... can't get enough of William Marshall's tales of chivalry, nor of his fairy-tale integration marrying Ireland ...

    • @bright9187
      @bright9187 3 года назад +2

      Dan snow is a bit more than a television presenter.

    • @Melanrick
      @Melanrick 3 года назад +1

      Yes, however the two of them together becomes Jon Snow and that makes them knowing nothing.

  • @jarlborg1531
    @jarlborg1531 2 года назад +13

    After one tournament, William Marshall's helmet was so bashed up that the only way he could remove it was to put his head on an anvil while a blacksmith hammered it back into shape. How cool is that.

  • @Desmond17
    @Desmond17 3 года назад +153

    Dan Jones & Dan Snow together to talk history.
    We're lucky Dan Carlin wasn't there or the amount of Dans would have tear the fabric of space and time apart...

    • @HistoryHit
      @HistoryHit  3 года назад +65

      We'll have to try and make that happen one day! 😂

    • @Neenerella333
      @Neenerella333 3 года назад +5

      @@HistoryHit You'll need a few hours.

    • @milosit
      @milosit 2 года назад +6

      Can I just comment on how tall Dan Snow must be? He towers over Jones. I'm 6ft and have stood next to and taken pictures with Dan Jones and I can see that he must have a good 3 inches in height over me.

    • @tygressblade
      @tygressblade 2 года назад +4

      Dan cubed.

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 2 года назад +5

      Sorry but for a 3rd Dan you get a brown belt, minor telekinesis and the ability to break bricks and boards.
      You need a 10th Dan to tear spacial reality.

  • @galahaddayne
    @galahaddayne 5 лет назад +204

    The legend himself Dan Jones and the greatest knight to have ever lived William the Marshal. Do I sense another book coming about William Marshal?

    • @thgentleman9210
      @thgentleman9210 3 года назад +7

      William de Marshall * Norman heritage..

    • @michaelmccomb2594
      @michaelmccomb2594 3 года назад +13

      @@thgentleman9210 doesn’t ‘de’ mean of, which would mean William was from ‘Marshal’. ‘Marshal’ however was not a geographical region, it was a leading role in the English government, hence the name ‘William the Marshal’, because he was the Marshal

    • @cleverusername9369
      @cleverusername9369 3 года назад +8

      @@thgentleman9210 Robert de Bruce= Robert the Bruce = Robert of House Bruce = Robert Bruce, it's all the same.

    • @SaintJust1214
      @SaintJust1214 3 года назад +5

      The greatest knight was chevalier de bayard

    • @michaelmccomb2594
      @michaelmccomb2594 3 года назад

      @@SaintJust1214 what makes you say that

  • @katescrimgeour3884
    @katescrimgeour3884 2 года назад +11

    I have one thing to say: More Dan Jones and Dan Snow conversations!

  • @kingmaker2865
    @kingmaker2865 2 года назад +20

    These guys need their own show... like battlefield Britain was with dan and his legendary dad. Going around England to castles.. and battlefields. It would be amazing. We are blessed with such a amazing history on this island... and these heroes bring it to the masses. They need a show. Road dripping about England... having a beer and a chin wag 👍. It would be a top seller !!!.

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад

      Road dripping! My mind is boggling. Does that involve tarmac? This is Dumb Down. Anyone who cites Dan Brown as a reference is in Poundshop History territory right there.

  • @bladehoner3185
    @bladehoner3185 Год назад +9

    William Marshall is my 23 great grandfather and I'm reading a book about him right now.

  • @ageingviking5587
    @ageingviking5587 Год назад +1

    Dan and Dan are my two favorite historians .

  • @janeoxley4829
    @janeoxley4829 3 года назад +40

    Love the history of England, especially medieval history.

    • @pyewackett5
      @pyewackett5 2 года назад +1

      Medieval art & imagination is simply sublime. The music is something else too.
      Highly recommend giving it a listen. It's otherworldly with knobs on

    • @malahammer
      @malahammer 2 года назад +2

      The Irish (for 800 years) didn't.....neither did the Scots 👍🏼

    • @alleynealisleem9777
      @alleynealisleem9777 2 года назад +1

      Me Too! English History Rocks!!!🥰⛪🇬🇧💖💕

    • @mijanhoque1740
      @mijanhoque1740 2 года назад +4

      @@malahammer Relationships probably would have been better under a Anglo-Saxon king than a Norman king

    • @Karl_with_a_K
      @Karl_with_a_K 2 года назад

      @@malahammer Paul, the Anglo-Normans became "more Irish than the Irish themselves".

  • @Andaer11
    @Andaer11 3 года назад +4

    This makes me happy, the two of you working together

  • @jonathangoll2918
    @jonathangoll2918 2 года назад +5

    I'm a fan of William Marshal. Not only was he honourable and loyal, but he is the real author of our liberties. When King John signed Magna Carta in June 1215, he hadn't the slightest inclination to abide by it; he knew his law well, and he knew he could always discount it, as "signed under duress".
    When King John died in October 1216, he willed that William Marshal - just about the most honest man he knew - should run the country on behalf of his 9-year old son, Henry III. William did so very successfully, and one of his first acts - I think as early as the November - was to re-issue Magna Carta. This and subsequent reissues ensured that Magna Carta was enshrined in our law.

  • @glenriches4779
    @glenriches4779 3 года назад +29

    I did a stained glass replacement effigy for William Marshall in a phonebox on the embankment near temple. His story really struck me.

  • @shirleymental4189
    @shirleymental4189 3 года назад +17

    I used to love Simon Templar. He was a saint.

  • @victoriawhite3662
    @victoriawhite3662 4 года назад +9

    I adore Dan Jones!

  • @milosit
    @milosit 2 года назад +24

    Only one man had the nerve and ability to unseat Richard the Lionheart from his destrier in combat and that was William the Marshall. Trained for decades in France and fought in numerous tournaments, The Marshall was the fighting man's fighting man.

  • @vickywitton1008
    @vickywitton1008 2 года назад +2

    I LOVE William Marshall too!

  • @heathersmith8549
    @heathersmith8549 3 года назад +3

    My 2 favorite Dan’s!!!!

  • @Karl_with_a_K
    @Karl_with_a_K 2 года назад +5

    William Marshall considered the greatest Knight, founded the town of Newross, Co. Wexford a major medieval trading hub for South East Ireland. Built Hook Lighthouse the oldest fully entact functioning lighthouse in the world on the Hook peninsula. The town of Temple, and multiple Norman ruins on the peninsula. Fascinating.

    • @belfastlad55
      @belfastlad55 Год назад +1

      Amazing history

    • @TheKoolbraider
      @TheKoolbraider 7 месяцев назад +2

      Marshall had one quality most others lacked: loyalty. He was truly an amazing man.

  • @CM-ol5qj
    @CM-ol5qj Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @y_ffordd
    @y_ffordd 2 года назад +2

    Nice one Dan Snow, good Templer action

  • @jsieverink8409
    @jsieverink8409 3 года назад +7

    Popped up on my radar, thought it could only, possibly be about William Marshall, 1st Earl of Pembroke, and I am not disappointed, sirs.

  • @Luna.3.3.3
    @Luna.3.3.3 Год назад

    Love these two historians together! This was four years ago - that's too long without a repeat collaboration. Encore please! 😊
    Dan Jones' 'Britain's Bloody Crown', 'Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty' - absolutely _Superb!!_ They play out like a great long movie to me. I've watched both several times. I've watched _All_ his documentaries, more than once. Lol

  • @aprilcoursey4533
    @aprilcoursey4533 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for this. I had never heard of him.

  • @kiobio7311
    @kiobio7311 2 года назад +11

    Its so amazing to see history being celebrated instead of viewed through the lense of new times
    Thank you guys so much for these kind of videos

  • @shazanata
    @shazanata 2 года назад

    Very interesting and beautiful church. Enjoyed my visit.

  • @along9971
    @along9971 Год назад

    My two favorite Dans!
    These guys are so cool

  • @starrfam
    @starrfam 4 года назад +15

    As a many greats granddaughter of William Marshal through the Marshal's daughter Eva, it was interesting, even if brief, to hear why the Marshal waited to become a Templar on his death bed. I had wondered about it and now I know. Thank you, Mr Jones.

    • @lynneturner553
      @lynneturner553 3 года назад +5

      Read Templer Silks by Elizabeth Chadwick. She wrote 3 books about him as novels but completely true to facts.It explains why he waited until his deathbed to convert.Stay well everyone.Love from New Zealand.

    • @rayleekain3921
      @rayleekain3921 2 года назад +2

      I too am descended from William Marshal through two daughters Isobel and Eva. Have read a few books about him. Such an interesting man. Would have loved to have known him. Must go to the Templar church next time I'm in London if I'm lucky enough to travel again from Australia.

    • @johnhamilton4677
      @johnhamilton4677 2 года назад

      Another descendant here.

    • @foots-qt4pk
      @foots-qt4pk 2 года назад +1

      I'm also a granddaughter through his daughters Eva, Maud, Sybil, and Isabel, but I'm also a granddaughter of the Plantagenet Kings and Simon de Montfort among many others but William is my favorite. If you love William as much as I do you have to get a copy of the biography his son William had written about his life , "The History of William Marshall". He did indeed take his Templar vows on his deathbed, and because one of the vows was chastity, he gave his wife one last kiss before he made his vow.

    • @jenathome575
      @jenathome575 2 года назад +1

      Another descendant of William and Plantagenets here too

  • @flywheel986
    @flywheel986 4 месяца назад +1

    Think about the physiological differences between a medieval warrior and a modern human male. William Marshall in melee tournament, sometimes with over two hundred knight participating, needed the arm and wrist strength to deliver hundreds of heavy blows, with 15 pound sword, or 20 pound mace, while on horseback. Marshall won more tournaments than any other ten knights in history, and claimed over 500 kills in battle. Mind boggling!!

  • @janetwebster5099
    @janetwebster5099 3 года назад +3

    So great to see them together! :)

  • @colin.d
    @colin.d 2 года назад +3

    Two Dan's is better than one!

  • @patrickpaganini
    @patrickpaganini 3 года назад +2

    At the end "we can practise later" lol good delivery.

  • @TheStalec
    @TheStalec 3 года назад +5

    Who wouldn’t love this crossover?

  • @bindon4
    @bindon4 3 года назад +8

    I could marry both Dans and live happily ever after listening to them discussing history!....

  • @janeoxley4829
    @janeoxley4829 3 года назад +12

    Henry II rule really interesting, father to King Richard the Lionheart and King John, William Marshall served as their knight to all these three Kings.

    • @Conorp77
      @Conorp77 3 года назад +4

      And briefly to the infant Henry III!

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 2 года назад +3

      @@Conorp77 yes, stopping the french Louis VIII taking over England at age 72 battle of Lincoln remarkable

    • @CompelledUsername
      @CompelledUsername 2 года назад +1

      “My life, when it is written, will read better than it lived. Henry Fitz-Empress, first Plantagenet, a king at twenty-one, the ablest soldier of an able time. He led men well, he cared for justice when he could and ruled, for thirty years, a state as great as Charlemagne's.”
      Such an underrated King.

  • @EMMYK1916
    @EMMYK1916 2 года назад +1

    My local pub here in Ireland is called the Knights Templar.

  • @karigirl3569
    @karigirl3569 6 месяцев назад

    I’m currently reading an actual CONTEMPORARY BIO on William Marshal, the first contemporary bio on a medieval knight in history. Marshal is a true hero and legend, something that can be said of only a handful of men.

  • @JohnnyWishbone85
    @JohnnyWishbone85 2 года назад +1

    6:00 - As I understand it, in northeast Europe, like Poland, the Baltic nations, and western Russia, the Teutonic Knights are still invoked to scare little kids into behaving themselves.

  • @kingmichealthefirstofroman2278
    @kingmichealthefirstofroman2278 2 года назад +1

    The best crossover in history

  • @kevinstreet5709
    @kevinstreet5709 Год назад

    Brilliant, thank you

  • @SuperNictastic
    @SuperNictastic 2 года назад +2

    I love the fact that Dan Jones is not some dusty old history professor type. He looks like your mate down the pub.

  • @BretCoreysFilms
    @BretCoreysFilms 2 года назад +1

    What really cool about William Marshall is the he is George Washington's ancestor of which they both developed the English and American Declaration of Independence.

  • @Nadamos
    @Nadamos 2 года назад +2

    They should have a show called "Historical Dans" about the best pranks in history

  • @madMARTYNmarsh1981
    @madMARTYNmarsh1981 2 года назад +3

    I named my son after William Marshal, although I reversed the names. It annoys me when people ask if I named my son after Marshall Mathers!

  • @koenmeier8553
    @koenmeier8553 4 года назад +10

    when you get surprised by a game reference from an historian.

  • @colboysigmax
    @colboysigmax 2 года назад +1

    I agree William Marshal! Thought this was going to be about Edward III.

  • @Anonymouse85
    @Anonymouse85 Год назад

    The Dans are such a cool couple of history dudes

  • @gillieb13
    @gillieb13 5 лет назад +6

    I can't get over how tall D. Snow is.

    • @paulkirton8945
      @paulkirton8945 3 года назад +2

      6ft 6

    • @gillieb13
      @gillieb13 Год назад

      ​@Paul Kirton I know. I passed him at St. Pancras once. He towered over me at 5'10".

  • @RobertLidstroem
    @RobertLidstroem 2 года назад

    Yes!!! William Marshall! I was thinking that when I saw the headline! I need a good movie avout him! And a 1 hour wellmade documentary about him!

  • @majorblue777
    @majorblue777 2 года назад +2

    As a descendant of Henry Billingsley, Lord Mayor of London and first translator of Eulicid into english, I am mesmerized by English history. Just found this channel and am loving it fully! Thanks to the Dan's!!!

  • @BlakeAlexander-kq8qq
    @BlakeAlexander-kq8qq 4 дня назад

    William Marshal is my coolest ancestor

  • @tolvaer
    @tolvaer 2 года назад

    thank you very much gents

  • @Matatabi6
    @Matatabi6 Год назад

    When I clicked on this video I said out loud I bet it’s William the marshall I was not disappointed

  • @thetoymanator7723
    @thetoymanator7723 2 года назад

    Check out a movie called "Ironclad". I'm pretty sure William Marshal as a Knight's Templar is a character. Not sure how historically accurate it is, but a good watch.

  • @NeilOB9
    @NeilOB9 6 месяцев назад

    Knew who it was before I even clicked on the video: ‘the greatest knight that ever lived’.

  • @josephinemiller68
    @josephinemiller68 10 месяцев назад

    How is this really funny to me? The coolest man cracked me up. Amazing that they are standing right next to these legends.

  • @dashinvaine
    @dashinvaine Год назад

    The oblong chancel was redone during the reign of Henry III, who originally intended to be buried there, though he ultimately decided to be buried in Westminster Abbey. I believe there was an earlier, slightly smaller chancel on the site, so the church was always keyhole shaped, and it would never have been just the round bit.

  • @jaymarshall845
    @jaymarshall845 2 года назад +1

    As someone who's middle name is William, this is pretty fun 😅

  • @Amc933
    @Amc933 2 года назад

    I love that you mentioned the difficulty in pronouncing "Hospitaller"... I thought I was the only one! (it is easier to pronounce it in French!)

  • @lawrencegt2229
    @lawrencegt2229 Год назад

    Which came first - the round temples of the Templar or the legend of Arthur & his round table?

  • @SecretSquirrelFun
    @SecretSquirrelFun 2 года назад

    Ha ha @ 5:00
    “Count me in for all of that....now that I’m dying”
    Ah Dan, that was really funny.

  • @kingston4313
    @kingston4313 Год назад

    I wanna see william marshall. He was mentioned a lot on the Plantagenet podcast

  • @pinaytravelsinuk5852
    @pinaytravelsinuk5852 2 года назад

    More please ♥️

  • @jorgem.1564
    @jorgem.1564 3 года назад +2

    My vote. William Marshal and El Cid. Can't pick between them.

  • @waynecurie71
    @waynecurie71 2 года назад +2

    Snow and Jones go together like Morecombe and Wise.....
    Smith and Jones

  • @zactorbeam3809
    @zactorbeam3809 3 года назад

    Incredible literally

  • @yrokelyod3471
    @yrokelyod3471 2 месяца назад

    Been there, seen his tomb.

  • @marionbanks-wilkinson8368
    @marionbanks-wilkinson8368 2 года назад +2

    I am descended from William the Marshal among others including Robert the Bruce

  • @kiltedjohn1000
    @kiltedjohn1000 9 месяцев назад

    You two could make a tv program called The Two Dans

  • @leonstevens1382
    @leonstevens1382 2 года назад +4

    Two scholarly hot guys!

  • @Gemmagalgani99
    @Gemmagalgani99 3 года назад +13

    The Templars spent a lot of time in prayer and religious activities- people like to warp history to meet modern secular standards…

  • @bigbasil1908
    @bigbasil1908 2 года назад

    A Rotunda.
    Reminiscent of a stone circle or a roundhouse (not particularly the one in Dagenham)

  • @bx8321
    @bx8321 7 месяцев назад

    Yeay, History Chad talk!

  • @jolaobisesan7795
    @jolaobisesan7795 6 месяцев назад

    William Marshall vs Bertrand du Guesclin vs Sir John Chandos. Ooft that would be an interesting debate

  • @wallyjansen898
    @wallyjansen898 2 года назад

    Elizabeth Chadwick has written about William Marshall. A fairly new book about Marshall in Jeruzalem and what he did there. Fiction of course but very readable. It's called Templars Silk.

    • @karenwilkinson5923
      @karenwilkinson5923 2 года назад

      I’ve read her books about William the Marshal and the tale about him purchasing and then keeping hidden the length of plain white silk is a most enjoyable read and likely holds a kernel of truth. His interaction with his brothers (still fiction) but also likely and very touching. He was a very great man, the fact that he holds such fascination 800years later is a testament to that.

  • @wmr9019
    @wmr9019 8 месяцев назад

    Coolest dude WM is my 26th GGF ❤❤ my most favourite ancestor🎉

  • @Philipp.of.Swabia
    @Philipp.of.Swabia 3 года назад +3

    He was quite cool, but personally I can think of at least 3 other people that are just as cool as him.

  • @TomOkkaTom
    @TomOkkaTom 3 года назад +1

    The most fascinating person of the period is definitely stupor mundi, the astonishment of the world, Frederick II

  • @LewiLuvLife
    @LewiLuvLife 4 месяца назад

    I knew this was William Marshal without even watching. If it’s not, it should be

  • @chris123chris82
    @chris123chris82 Год назад

    Where does somebody begin to learn all this?

    • @PercivalC
      @PercivalC 2 месяца назад +2

      You just start reading and listening to the information our best acknowledged experts have!

  • @scottfoster3548
    @scottfoster3548 3 года назад +3

    OH OH I am conjuring a vision where Dan and Dan follow history OR even go to pre-history sites like a LIKE a "Two Greedy Italians buddy show through history....

  • @brandonhernandez371
    @brandonhernandez371 2 года назад +1

    Dan Snow lord of Winterfell and warden of the North

  • @robbyrobrob1
    @robbyrobrob1 4 года назад +4

    I think you might be sympathetic with William of Tyre - applauds when necessary but never misses a chance to criticize .
    Example : The siege of Ascalon , 1153 .
    The " suicidal" charge of 40 nights Templar led by their master Bernard .
    Failure to capitalize on opportunity in war is common.
    A few at the right time can, and has, made all the difference .
    I believe that was their thing always..
    The Fatimid defenders were well led and did not panic, as most people would.
    They quickly closed the breach and trapped the Templars.
    .......... ' They had bad back up . That's all.

  • @TheVJTiticaca
    @TheVJTiticaca 2 года назад

    I want to see them do togehter an hours long docu serie about experiencing the History of bathing, like the history of the turkisch bath, bathing like Cleo, the history of sauna and so on.

  • @garstanforddasilva9663
    @garstanforddasilva9663 3 года назад

    Interesting, but wasn’t Dan Jones pointing to the wrong Marshal figure?

  • @yxx_chris_xxy
    @yxx_chris_xxy Год назад

    Damn, I always thought Dan Snow and Dan Jones were the same person. If they aren't standing next to each other, they look the same...

  • @nicksmith9371
    @nicksmith9371 2 года назад +2

    History hit. Mark Felton, David Starkey all on youtube is a good thing. Our history is being lost to the detriment of our culture and we are breeding people making up their own history to fix a narrative and distorting what has come before. Great to see interesting series like this finding a new audience online.

    • @philroberts7238
      @philroberts7238 2 года назад +1

      This comment is itself a distortion of the greatest magnitude. It seems to me you have an agenda: to retain the myth and ignore the history. Go and fight your culture wars if you want to, but ultimately objective scholarship will prevail over the comfortable nationalistic grandstanding which I suspect you would prefer to hear. History is not, or should not, be reduced to a series of patriotic platitudes.

    • @philroberts7238
      @philroberts7238 2 года назад

      Incidentally, I enjoyed this clip as much as you apparently did - so you see, not everything is as black and white as you seem to suggest.

    • @nicksmith9371
      @nicksmith9371 2 года назад +1

      @@philroberts7238 Well hello Mr angry. Where have I said I would like a jingoistic view of history to prevail as opposed to a balanced account of our history. schools, colleges, mainstream media and universities are not presenting a balanced view it is overtly negative and in no way representative of history and most certainly not "nationalistic grandstanding". Its funny how you accuse me of having an agenda when I merely commented that history is being lost and its good we can watch videos like this to keep it alive. You must be very intelligent boarding on psychic to work out all of my thoughts on a subject from one comment or perhaps with all your "suspicions" they are in fact crafted from a mind who wants it desperately to fit a narrative to serve your agenda. Never once did I preach myths over fact, though I do believe the good elements of our history ( and no matter what people say there are plenty) are being ignored. Ask 1000 people who William the Marshal was and id be amazed if 1% actually knew, despite his importance to our past. Hell, most secondary school children struggle to accurately place the start of the second world war and who Churchill was and yet they believe he was a racist because tick tock said so. Purely out of interest I once asked 10 people when WW2 finished and there was 1 answer of 1947 and that was the closest. Non could say when it started. History is full of subtle nuances that require context to be taken into account and sadly, no matter anyone's agendas it is a skill that is being lost.

    • @philroberts7238
      @philroberts7238 2 года назад +2

      ​@@nicksmith9371
      Well, yes, of course, history is all a matter of balance and nuance. History is a matter of collecting data and then presenting it as a coherent narrative, and that must always be a matter of interpretation. Thus far, I imagine, we might be in furious agreement. We might differ in that interpretation, however, and I might take issue with you over this "overtly negative" view you accuse all our institutions are taking. Incidentally, I'd be very surprised if any secondary school child who was unable to place the Second World War in its time could care less about Churchill one way or the other, regardless of what some TikTok user might have to say about him. Let's look at Churchill, seeing that you've brought him up. He was undoubtedly an effective and charismatic wartime leader and for that he must be revered. But he was a very complex character and certainly no saint. Among other things, he was an out and out racist, in common with many of his era - though certainly not all of his contemporaries. You don't need to go TikTok for verification of this: WSC himself provides us with all the evidence we need. It may be embarrassing for us to admit that some of our heroes may be slightly tarnished when looked at from a more modern perspective, but that's no reason why unpleasant truths should not be acknowledged. That is not the same as "ignoring" all the good bits and I very much doubt that that is the case, out in the field.
      "Our history is being lost to the detriment of our culture and we are breeding people making up their own history to fix a narrative and distorting what has come before." Yes, I am a bit angry about that sentence, come to think of it, because I think it is a slur on today's historians, amateur and professional, academics and teachers alike. The "truth" is far more balanced and far more nuanced than that. Being interested in characters such as William the Marshall doesn't mean that we shouldn't be looking at ALL aspects of our country's history - the "good" elements, the "bad" elements, and all those elements in between. So, no, I don't flatter myself as a psychic when I say that I think I got your measure as someone who had swallowed the whole "culture war on woke" thing hook, line and sinker. It's all about the evidence, sir: evidence, not anecdote!
      Meanwhile, carry on enjoying this excellent series. As shall I.

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад +2

      Phil Roberts did the Prozac work? I do hope so. By the way this is history for the cheap seats and very subjective . Click bait Also Nick did not accuse you of anything! But as a rather uninformed childish, unfocused incoherent rant ,that must be worth the 'Booker Prize' of you tube! Well done!

  • @brockpodgurski6144
    @brockpodgurski6144 9 месяцев назад

    No way this conversation only lasted 7 minutes.

  • @bobbah676
    @bobbah676 2 года назад

    How about El Cid ? Seems like a pretty cool dude aswell.

  • @amelierenoncule
    @amelierenoncule 2 года назад

    NOW, mes amis, I
    I needs study William The Marshal !

  • @Hansenvision
    @Hansenvision 2 месяца назад

    The coolest historians discuss the coolest man

  • @animalsarecomradestoo.8995
    @animalsarecomradestoo.8995 2 года назад +1

    Can we get Dan jones and Marc Morris to fight to the death to find out who the top popular medievalist is ? Asking for a friend

  • @harryleigh1200
    @harryleigh1200 3 года назад +1

    The most noble order of HMS order of the Gatar

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад

      I thought it was the order of the old Croc, given her Maj's advancing years?