Crazy as it sounds, the lack of Apple logo on the front of the M1 iMac has gotta play a part in why there hasn’t been so many sales of them. People care about the Apple brand and that blank chin just looks so odd
@Runway it’s anything but a distraction imo. It looks cool as hell and the black apple logo complements the black bezel. Speaking of distraction, that white bezel draws attention away from the screen. If they were to make the 24” iMac an M2 in space grey and black bezels, best believe I would be in the market for that (apple logo or not). Cheers!
I have a 2019 21.5" iMac that I bought as an upgraded refurb from OWC in August 2020. With 32gb of RAM and a 2tb OWC SSD, it is simply amazing for everything I do with it. It is the perfect size for my desk, I don't need a 27" 5k display. You know one of the things I like the best about it? Its simple 3.6GHz 4-core i3 without Turbo Boost, which means I have never heard a fan without pressing my ear against the case and the thing barely feels warm even after hours of heavy use. And I can boot into Mojave so I can use old, never-upgraded/abandoned 32-bit applications when I want to. I don't edit videos for a living so rendering speed isn't a major issue for me. I am not playing the hottest new game that was released last week so the 2gb Radeon 555x doesn't bother me at all. OWC still sells these upgraded refurbs, if you just do "general computing" stuff, this thing is a great choice.
@@joshshepherd7911 Pretty much just Lord of the Rings Online, although I have played Batman: Arkham City, Total War: Empire, and a few undemanding titles such as FTL and Avernum: Escape From the Pit. The price for my exact configuration of that exact iMac is currently $1050, I paid more than that when I bought it two years ago and don't regret a penny of it.
I *did* get the 21” iMac, many years ago, maybe about a year after it first came out. I opted for the 16GB RAM, 512GB version mainly because the video editing software I planned to run recommended 16GB; it was also the first time I every used a macOS machine. I eventually replaced it because Apple stopped supporting that model with its macOS updates, replacing it with a Dell workstation that I bought on sale, which was a mistake because the chipset was frustrating when it came to WIN10 updates, and so I got the 24” M1 iMac in blue, 16GB RAM and 1TB drive. I’m really happy with it as a home workstation. I opted for this size because I find 27” was really too big for my home office. I have one of those wooden DIY home station units that came out in the 1990s back when everyone was still using CRT terminals for monitors, and the cubbyhole space allotted for a monitor was just too small for a 27” monitor size.
I'm very happy with the M1 iMac I bought used. It took a few patient weeks (and a few missed opportunities) before I bought the one I did, one of the rarer 16GB models with the 8-core GPU and 512GB SSD for just $1350 after shipping. Beautiful machine, though it's too bad I can't see the deep blue part of it where I set it up.
After watching your older iMac reviews, I was convinced to get a Late 2015 iMac 21.5 4k, 3.GHz, Intel Core i5, 1TB HDD 8GB and it works perfectly fine for me. Thanks so much for your good reviews!
I'd take the i9 model, just for the repair/upgrade and thanks to Opencore you'll have mac OS support right up until the last intel mac to be supported. Not to mention you've got the avenue still open for Windows/Linux too.
I'm watching your video on my three-month old M1 24-inch iMac. You're correct. It's a fantastic buy. And I did upgrade it. It has more RAM (16gb), a larger drive (1tb), and an extended keyboard with a trackpad.
One added benefit of the Intel chip is that it can run Windows inside Bootcamp, which is currently not possible with an M1 Mac. You can run Windows in virtualization on a M1, but for some, that just isn’t like running Windows natively.
That’s true and that’s a big reason why sometimes I choose to bring my 2016 MacBook Pro instead of my M1 Macbook Air. That being said when I’m back at my desk I have an i7-4770k desktop to compensate for my Windows needs. Windows just does screen and computer audio captures so easily while MacOS requires complicated 3rd party plugins. Oh and my decade old Windows PC still games a lot better than M1, just that it can’t keep up with productivity work.
i bought a floor model 27 inch 2020 iMac from Best Buy for 800. I have total tech and apple care for extra reassurance. hopefully should still have lots of life in it. It looks and feels like new and I really love it. The fact it’s upgradable and has a 27 inch screen makes me pick it over the m1.
I would've absolutely bought the M1 iMac in a heartbeat if there was a 27" option for extra $200 or something like that, it would've been a dope machine, but a 23.5" display is a bit too small for my liking, despite the quality of the display being pretty great.
Apple for sure already had the Studio Display in mind last year. If they also released a 27" iMac with the exact same screen speakers mic and camera, plus keyboard & mouse, AND A COMPUTER INSIDE for the same price… Then people would realize how overpriced it is 🤡
@@joffrey6831 it’s what the people asked for. “Take the screen out of the 27in iMac and sell it as a monitor“ people didn’t realize the cost savings they were getting from an all in one
@@chidorirasenganz People asked for that in 2017, now it’s brand new and already outdated ! Even MacBooks have better screens 🤷♂️ The Studio Display is just an easy 5-in-1 solution for laptop users, with basic technology, no adjustable height and large bezels… Should be $1099 without the A13 chip, and a normal 1080p (lol) camera instead of the always cropped ultra wide one.
@@joffrey6831 It takes time to develop new products. Plus it wasn’t a concern until 2018-2019 during which they were working on the apple silicon transition. What 5k display can you get for 1099$? The ultrafine lg is 1300 and made of creaky plastic with worse speakers, cameras etc The Macbooks only have better contrast. They are inferior in size, resolution and brightness. The monitor needs a processor so the a13 is fine. It would be dumb to use anything older than that. Center stage is awesome and it doesn’t require you to use place your monitor in a certain angle to use your webcam. Plus the changing the framing when other people enter the frame.
@@chidorirasenganz You think Apple can’t develop a monitor while working on Apple Silicon ? At least you agree it’s 3 years too late… Because there is no other option doesn’t mean it’s a good deal 🙄 You’re right about the LG Ultrafine costing $1299… in 2019. MacBooks screens have more than higher contrast : - can be set to 1000 nits (so not at all inferior in brightness) - deep blacks with mini-leds - 120Hz - thin bezels Same pixel density, just smaller screen for obvious reason. No one care what chip is inside a monitor. Apple marketed the A13 inside like it was revolutionary 😱 Yet you can’t even use Center Stage on a Windows machine (meaning MacOS could handle it), and it doesn’t even support AirPlay !! Center Stage on a desktop computer will only be useful 1% of the time anyway, not worth being stuck with a cropped image.
if the M1 iMac was a 27" or larger display, I would have bought one. Especially if they offered a matching display for a 2 or 3 screen solution. Until something like this is available, I'll keep my 27" 5k iMac and 27" apple monitor. i7 and upgraded ssd makes it quick enough for everything I use it for.
I'm going to add another underrated one - the M1 mini. I picked it and an M1 air up at launch and my Mini does the "heavy lifting" - with handoff, I can set up a project on my M1 Air, and then hand it off to my mini to be rendered down to soup stock. Yeah, for faster rendering you should absolutely get the 16gb ram mini variant, but if you're setting up a project and leaving it to render undisturbed, it doesn't make much of a difference.
I personally own the 21.5 imac they I literally got for free and for me the biggest drawback was the camera. So I upgraded it as well, with a 1080p beast 🐗 I initially tried the 2020 imac 27" camera (the one that you cannot buy 😂) but even though its sharing the same connector it has a different pinout etc. I ended up hooking up the usb-protocol camera inside, works and looks like a factory form camera but exceedes most of modern machines (not that sharp as 14" and 16" macbooks though, but it's close 😊 ) happy to share more info if you're interested 😉
A year ago, Inspired by your modded iMac video, I picked up a base model 27" iMac for my wife and close to maxed it out. 8GB -> 64GB ram (running at full supported speed), replaced the i5 8500k with an i9 9900K (running a custom fan profile to keep it cooler and boost performance), swapped the fusion hard drive setup with a 2tb nvme for the os and apps, and a 14tb HDD for storage. Since my wife needed it for our design business (Flavor Graphics), it needed to not have any compatibility issues that early M1 platforms were having. So far, it's served her well, and it's hard to beat the price-to-performance.
The M1 iMac is a great value…the “issue” is that most users are looking for laptops rather than desktops. I agree that the $200 upgrade from the base model is worth the money. Upgrading the CPU memory and storage on that 2019 21.5” iMac is also an intriguing option. An i9-9900 CPU, 16GB-32GB RAM, and for some users, larger SSD makes it a very solid option.
I upgraded to a 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM on my 21.5 4k iMac 2019 model. Finally it is now a really sweet machine. Looking forward to upgrading the CPU but I can only find 'K' CPUs at a decent price. It's my understanding that the 'K' CPUs are not recommended for the 2019 iMacs because of heat dissipation.
Core i9 is really good and fast but just watch out for coil whine. I had a 16” MPB plagued by this issue. Also because it’s kinda over clocked the fans will probably be screaming if you are doing anything cpu intensive.
definitely agree with your assessment. i love the intel iMac for its upgradability but it’s still a $400-$500 iMac at the end of the day on old intel platform for about the same price, i’d go for the M1 with its bigger screen, design and other features
So you would rather pay for cellphone and mobile device architecture cpus and gpus that are currently in most iPsds, Samsung’s, and iPhones? Why not just get you a Raspberry Pi 64-bit with 8gb or one of the more powerful SBC’s and do the DIY thing until reveals their patent, which is very similar to mine, another couple of products that are already out, and one that just got upgraded and re-released. If you have Samsung mobile devices, tv’s, etc., you should be smiling from ear to ear!! You already know what Apple is about to do!! If I find any of these previously released devices, I will show you exactly why all Apple customers who paid thousands of dollars for mobile cpu arm architecture in their expansive ass machines, are going to REVOLT!! I hope they release the folding iPhone, that I have been waiting for for at least four years now, soon; then I can really show off! Especially since it should come with a worldwide required standard usb-c port!! Yay!! Everyone in the world will understand what I am talking about then!! In the meantime, let me see if I can get the machine I want and combine with one of Samsung phones or a Raspberry Pi, or similar device!! All of us waiting to buy our next phone and not a new cpu, we will truly be blessed!!
@@speedyg123.i bought a 2017 4k retina imac with a quad core i5, 1 tb storage, 8 gigs of ram, and radeon pro 555 for 90 bucks. Honestly best deal on ebay ever ngl.
This past Spring, I spent all of the money from my COVID check, plus some of my savings, and bought a refurbished M1 Mac Mini w/ 16 GB RAM and a 2 TB SSD from Apple direct. I paired if up with a +15-year-old monitor so now I have a FrankenMac. I had thought seriously about buying a reburbished M1 iMac instead, but if I had, I would have wanted the VESA-mount version which wasn't offered as a refurb. I have to admit, it was a close call and I still wonder what it would've been like to buy a loaded refub iMac instead. I had no idea how upgradeable the final-generation Intel iMac was. That's interesting, but if I could go back in time I would definitely stick with Apple Silicon.
I'm surprised there's still no M1 Pro version of the iMac. I also think people might seem more value in an iMac if Apple still allowed you to use it in a monitor only mode, that would give it lasting value.
The 2019 21.5" 4K iMac is it! It's taken me time (years) to decide to split up what I do with my computers (music recording/production, photo and video editing) into 2 computers. For the DAW I use (Studio One) and third party plugins, even with more workability with M1's now, music software companies tend to take much more time to adjust and conform to new cpu's and operating systems. Probably partly because musicians/recording engineers and producers also like what they like and if it works, they won't fix it or change it for decades until it just won't work anymore. If only the price of CPU's would come down a little...
I've had the M1 iMac since launch, and it was a great replacement for my Mac Air. Now I don't need a second screen, and the sound is amazing. I went for the high tier model, and I do not regret it. Spend a lot of time using my computer, so money well spent. Would highly recommend this machine!
I buy them! Probably too many of them. 😅 I ordered a shiny new M1 iMac at launch, and I’ve purchased four refurbished ones over the past year for various family members. We all love them! I get why people miss the 27” iMac, but I can also see why an all-in-one desktop is becoming a niche product these days, in a sea of MacBooks and iPads - especially with the new Mac Studio taking the performance crown, and the budget Mac mini positioned as the most affordable entry point into macOS. But for the vast majority of desktop computing use cases, you just can’t beat the 24” M1 iMac. It‘s laptop simplicity in a desktop form factor, and that’s what I love about it.
I think the best deal is really a refurb 202 27 iMac. You can get the for good deals and can upgrade the ram to 128gb whenever you want. There are more ports, the screen is bigger and higher resolution, and performance is basically the same as the M1 chips. The newer M2 chips beat it, but those computers all cost a lot more once you add getting a bigger display etc
I bought the M1 and I would buy another one if I needed a new Mac right now. It’s a very nice computer. In fact of all the computers I’ve ever owned so far, this one is my favorite!
Between the core i9 and M1, i would go with the i9. This way all of my legacy apps would work without waiting on apple silicon versions of the apps to be made available. When the hardware eventually is forced into obsolescence by Apple, I could install any number of Linux distros and breathe new life into the hardware.
How was your horses there, lad - do they have one of these available for my M2 MacBook? Thanks for the tip off anyway you are so very accurate in your description of the importance of having connectivity between diverse devices! Most of mine being Pole devices, from 2022 back to 2016
For my use case (Medical Imaging) I’d choose the Intel because can run Win10 in Bootcamp and many if not most medical imaging and EMR software applications run only in Windows unless they are zero footprint and run in browsers as is true for the software based on my patents - Ikonopedia.
I used to use noting but 21.5" iMacs because it was all I could afford. I loved them for their size and how little space they use. I got a 2020 27" for $245 on FaceBook Marketplace which is a steal so I finally have a 27".
I have the 21" 4K with a 560X and an 8500. Insane machine, love every bit of it. Honestly, even with an i5 it's super fast and the GPU is more than enough (the 560X is the exact equivalent of the M1 GPU) Love your channel from Russia 🇷🇺
For ease of use and everyday tasks I'd jam on the imac every day... but, for serious content creation I'd be drooling over the power in the Intel Mac's upgrade... yeah, I'm a long time PC guy... that really gets my interest up in these crazy days and uncertain times... an upgradable hands on machine it is.....
4:17 ₹85,350!! That's sooo cheap! doesn't have a refurbished store for India, and the base model sells for ₹120,000 ($1,547).... But still I bought it lol
ok, Luke calm down. I have to admit your are absolutely right. If I needed a desktop computer I would definitely buy one of these things (or have a look at the 27" version) and send you a thank you note later for the advice. My MacBook and me are perfectly happy together.
Managed to get a steal on a 2015 27" 16GB i7-16GB for £250 :) Super happy. Normally a windows easier but MacOS is easier for WebDesign and business use. Creates a nice separation from gaming/other work from actual proper hard work lol -- Going to be slamming another 2x8GB in it soon. Popped a 1TB SSD in it and kept the 1TB Fusion drive and velcroed it to the back of the iMac to keep as a time machine drive
I really wish I could afford one at all. After multiple bouts with Covid-19 and pneumonia I’m finally getting ready to go back to work. I’ve had to sell everything to pay my bills but I’m blessed and back! Maybe I’ll be able to get me a new M1 or maybe the new M2 someday in about 5 years if I’m fortunate! Thank you for giving me hope and keeping me inspired bro!
The DYI’r in me is suffering…at 63 my eyes are fading, macular degeneration, so I’d have to go the more pragmatic route of grabbing the M1 and watch your videos to vicariously appease my desire to upgrade. The 24” screen size would be a plus too. TY😵💫
Like you said, I upgraded a late 2012, 21.5" iMac. It is also running Sonoma 14.5. Lot's of fun. However, I just bought the M3 iMac. Don't know what the fate of the 2012 will be at the moment.
The other great thing about either of these machines is that you can use something like Luna Display to make it a 4K/4.5K monitor for a MacBook/Mini/Studio.
Good video. Wasn't aware the most recent Intel iMac was RAM, CPU, and SSD upgradeable. I'll be looking more closely at refurbished iMacs, now. Presently I have an M1 Mini base model and a 2014 i5 Mini. So, you've certainly peaked my interest. Again, good video.
I have been waiting for an M1 … 27” or 30” iMac…. My 2018 MBP has been trouble and had to be serviced and got a bunch of parts replaced via AppleCare… but all my iMacs have been so much more reliable… and they have amazing screens! … and they run my legacy programs as well… invaluable
I loved my 27" iMac so much for so many years. The iMac screens need to be 27" or larger. For Mac to go backwards to 24" as the largest iMac was just heartbreaking for me. That's when I said that I was done with the iMacs. I hope that they will come out with the iMac 27" or larger in the future.
I think the 2020 13” MBP with 4 thunderbolt ports is actually a pretty good machine especially since you can get one with a pretty low price nowadays. It’s a great secondary Mac if you love using Mac laptops but have compatibility issues with stuff that doesn’t run Intel applications properly since it’s the only machine with 10nm intel chips aside from the MacBook Air at the time which has inadequate cooling while the Pro has a pretty nice heat pipe and dual fans and you can replace the thermal paste yourself to make it run even cooler. It’s definitely way better than the 16” Intel variant which has the older and WAY more power hungry CPU and of course the over powered GPU for a laptop so using it on your lap isn’t particularly enjoyable. But the 13” with 4 thunderbolt ports is way better in value. The 1038NG7 is pretty good though going for the 1068NG7 since it has the thermal capacity to handle it along with fairly decent but not too power hungry integrated graphics is a really good option considering you can buy this machine for under $1000 or a little over if you go for the 32GB RAM upgrade and a storage capacity increase. Definitely not nearly as good as an 14” M1 Pro but compared to a MBP 13” with an M1 it’s almost on par with value and especially useful if you use older apps and/or jump between Mac and Windows and also like having the extra 2 ports on the right.
I'm sorry, but in no way is the 13" 2020 Intel MBP with 4 thunderbolt ports even close in terms of value to the M1 MacBook Air, let alone the M1 MacBook Pro. I'd take way better performance and reliability over 2 ports and 2 extra old apps, any day of the week.
Laptops have gotten so powerful and portable that desktops are often not a great option for most consumers anymore. If someone wants a big monitor at home, they can buy just that - a monitor - and attach their laptop to it when they use it.
look for lots of sub-$800 base M1 iMacs (eBay, CL, FB market) after WWDC 2022 as new M-series Macs are introduced. That screen is beautiful and it has gobs of power.
M1 every time . I need to handle photos and write stories . Having compared iMacs alongside the M1 and the little beauty ticks all the boxes I need and more .
I think the issue is the tiny screen and the candy coated looking. Just based on the design they really not aimed any serious user, they look like toys and they kept the size what usually picked for not tech savvy kids first computer. Also everything soldered no update or swp repair for a broken memory module or drive so its not future proof even a little (I have a 2007 working imac, still in use. This thing I would be glad if still running after 3 or 4 years...). Its more like a tablet with a stand solderd to its back.
Luke, personally I find the redesign of the M1 iMac a failure and to tell you the truth it really looks cheap to me. I still find the old one more beautiful, more elegant and more prestigious.
I have the basic m1 imac. It is great for photographers and home office, very reliable. Great screen, takes little space on the desk, fluent working in lightroom and photoshop. An external ssd is necessary for bigger libraries. I just hate that mouse :) usb ports could be much faster, but it is fine for photo editing.
I'm watching this video on my new, to me, 21.5" iMac - 2015 model which I bought recently for less than £300 UK. It's probably not as upgradable as the one above as I believe it has soldered ram (and I don't do solder) but it's got a 1TB hard drive, a 3.1ghz processor and was totally mint! Thanks for the great content Luke.
I have just updated my Late 2009 21.5" iMac that is still going (somewhat slow 4GB ram) just couldn't update the operating version to take advantages of the latest Photoshop & Lightroom functions or MS Office. Loving my new 24" M1 iMac 16GB ram 1TB hard drive and the full Touch ID keyboard with numeral keys with 2nd 24" display attached. Now you can't tell me you would find a 2009 PC still going without having ANYTHING being done to it from new.
My wife has a 2017 21.5" iMac that I bought off the refurb store. The last couple of years there has been a thin red vertical line running down the display. I googled it and they say it is a bad ribbon cable. You can't hardly see it when you are logged on. It is mostly visible on the log on screen so she has been living with it.
I would choose one haves more ports than laptop because I know desktop are better because desktop doesn't power by battery but outlet and not so thin or getting hot in the inside too
Luke, man, here's a testimony of someone who bought the Intel's Mac vs someone close to me who bought the M1 Mac. The exact both models of your video. My Intel model is a BEAST! And yes, it's an Intel's i3 processor but with 3.6ghz of clock and 8gb of RAM. This other acquaintance, decided to go for the M1 model since he's a designer, edits videos and images and thought that the M1 processor would 'make up for the 8gb of RAM'. Clearly a mistake, but that's what happened. So after talking to this friend, the conclusion I got: yes, it's an 'outdated' Mac, though I really love this metal aluminum frame and the Apple logo right on front - I actually prefer this design over the newer Macs. In addition, THE PORTS! You get FOUR USB-A ports, plus two USB-C (one is Thunderbolt I think, I've never used it), a 3.5mm audio jack AND ethernet port!! And those, my friend, make A LOT of difference on the daily for me (bare in mind, it's naturally my own scenario here and his). Apart from that, I keep a lot of apps and tabs open, even using Safari it's a lot of processes for 8gb of RAM to handle, so there's that amazing 'feature' of this model you mentioned on the video: this one is upgradeable! So all I did was to swap my 8GB for 32GB. That's all I did, and this thing is the powerhouse of the house! I can only imagine what it feels like with an i9 inside! 🙌🏻 On the other hand, my friend can't seem to do much of anything with only 8gb of RAM - I still adk him why he'd buy something not appropriate for his own use, but anyways... Point is, people, you can definitely save a lot of money with an incredible machine. I tell you, I keep a lot of things open here, many tabs open (Safari and Brave), you can upgrade this desktop to make it last for long years, even if you just throw in some more memory like I did. Plus the ports, you get a whole bunch of ports to have fun with and not the scarcity that the M1 brings (if that's your case). Great vid Luke, these are indeed cheap and sick desktops that many people miss out on. Great value indeed!
They really need to put the Pro chips on the iMac. I would buy one as an office computer if it came with like the M-Pro or M-Max chips, but without them I ain’t spending $1000 on a really non pro in a my way machine. 27” M-Max iMac for like $4000. Yeah count me in I’m buying that.
Honestly, I use the mac Mini. I use a 33 inch monitor. I'm spoiled. I love the iMac Platform but NEED a Huge Monitor, which honestly 33" is small to me now. In fact I run 2--33" monitors. No way I could just go back to one screen.
I’m still rocking my 2010 iMac 27 inch that’s I use as a display/TV to my 2023 MacBook Pro 16in. I have a M3 max chip with the 40 cord GPU/128 GB of RAM so I’m well able to run extra higher quality and big monitors, but I still want to save some money cause I did drop 6 grand on my MacBook and the display is basically mint condition like no scratches no blemishes no nothing. I do have a PC for gaming and everything else with tons of monitors downstairs that I use for crypto mining and just hooking up PCs in general. But I mainly use my MacBook upstairs and usually just stream and watch RUclips videos upstairs on my bed anyways so that’s why I decided to just use my iMac as a display also because the quality is awesome compared to if I were to plug any normal display into the Mac. 😊😅
I’ve only bought one refurbished Apple product (2017 iPad Pro) and I’m never buying another refurbished product again. They’re great value, until they stop working. And they do.
I would go with an M1 iMac 7-GPU core and *16GB of ram* . I can say 7-core is enough for video editing. BUT you need to use proxies during editing and switch to original footage only when you are on the color grading step. I would say 8 GB on macOS is not so good. Believe me! Opening only Davinci and putting the footage on the timeline without any effect can take you around 3GB. Until you do the final step of editing a video (with effects, nodes, LUT, footage stabilization, and more...), I think it can take up to around 8-9GB, which is more than what is your hardware limit (because the OS and some installed apps can take you around 2.5-3GB already when you turn on your computer.
I just paid equivalent of $512 USD including tax, after promotions, for a brand new M2 Mac Mini from Apple. I spent another $100, and bought a Magic Trackpad and Magic Keyboard (with numpad, no Touch ID) from Facebook marketplace for a great deal . They’re in perfect condition and I will probably make money on them if I need to sell them in the near future. And I literally found 2, fully functional 1080p Monitors in my buildings recycling area. A quick cleaning, and digging for some cables and they work great. I sold my old MacBook Air to buy the new Mini, so it literally cost me $2 out of pocket for a brand new machine. The accessories will probably end up costing me nothing. The MacBook Air I sold was in fantastic condition, and a very capable laptop, I’m sure it will serve its new owner well. Mac computers are amazing, and will last for over 10 years, no headaches, if treated well. My new mini is about 5x as powerful as my old Intel MacBook Air, and runs average 60-70 degrees C cooler, even if I push it harder! This iMac, in my opinion, is not a good a deal. I’d get a mini, an Air, or make the investment in a MacBook Pro. Macs are worth it
They need to bring back the 27” iMac!
Crazy as it sounds, the lack of Apple logo on the front of the M1 iMac has gotta play a part in why there hasn’t been so many sales of them. People care about the Apple brand and that blank chin just looks so odd
I thought I was the only one. Cook doesn't understand branding or style.
@Runway Okay fanboy.
@Runway An apple logo takes away from your experience? Lol
Put a sticker there
@Runway it’s anything but a distraction imo. It looks cool as hell and the black apple logo complements the black bezel. Speaking of distraction, that white bezel draws attention away from the screen. If they were to make the 24” iMac an M2 in space grey and black bezels, best believe I would be in the market for that (apple logo or not). Cheers!
I have a 2019 21.5" iMac that I bought as an upgraded refurb from OWC in August 2020. With 32gb of RAM and a 2tb OWC SSD, it is simply amazing for everything I do with it. It is the perfect size for my desk, I don't need a 27" 5k display. You know one of the things I like the best about it? Its simple 3.6GHz 4-core i3 without Turbo Boost, which means I have never heard a fan without pressing my ear against the case and the thing barely feels warm even after hours of heavy use. And I can boot into Mojave so I can use old, never-upgraded/abandoned 32-bit applications when I want to.
I don't edit videos for a living so rendering speed isn't a major issue for me. I am not playing the hottest new game that was released last week so the 2gb Radeon 555x doesn't bother me at all. OWC still sells these upgraded refurbs, if you just do "general computing" stuff, this thing is a great choice.
What games do I play and how much did u pay if U don’t mind me asking
@@joshshepherd7911 Pretty much just Lord of the Rings Online, although I have played Batman: Arkham City, Total War: Empire, and a few undemanding titles such as FTL and Avernum: Escape From the Pit. The price for my exact configuration of that exact iMac is currently $1050, I paid more than that when I bought it two years ago and don't regret a penny of it.
I *did* get the 21” iMac, many years ago, maybe about a year after it first came out. I opted for the 16GB RAM, 512GB version mainly because the video editing software I planned to run recommended 16GB; it was also the first time I every used a macOS machine.
I eventually replaced it because Apple stopped supporting that model with its macOS updates, replacing it with a Dell workstation that I bought on sale, which was a mistake because the chipset was frustrating when it came to WIN10 updates, and so I got the 24” M1 iMac in blue, 16GB RAM and 1TB drive. I’m really happy with it as a home workstation.
I opted for this size because I find 27” was really too big for my home office. I have one of those wooden DIY home station units that came out in the 1990s back when everyone was still using CRT terminals for monitors, and the cubbyhole space allotted for a monitor was just too small for a 27” monitor size.
I'm very happy with the M1 iMac I bought used. It took a few patient weeks (and a few missed opportunities) before I bought the one I did, one of the rarer 16GB models with the 8-core GPU and 512GB SSD for just $1350 after shipping. Beautiful machine, though it's too bad I can't see the deep blue part of it where I set it up.
I just got an m1 16gb for 850!
After watching your older iMac reviews, I was convinced to get a Late 2015 iMac 21.5 4k, 3.GHz, Intel Core i5, 1TB HDD 8GB and it works perfectly fine for me. Thanks so much for your good reviews!
You need SSD drive for your 2015 iMac
@@loc5706 why? Does they use hdd?
I'd take the i9 model, just for the repair/upgrade and thanks to Opencore you'll have mac OS support right up until the last intel mac to be supported. Not to mention you've got the avenue still open for Windows/Linux too.
Thats my plans.
I'm watching your video on my three-month old M1 24-inch iMac. You're correct. It's a fantastic buy. And I did upgrade it. It has more RAM (16gb), a larger drive (1tb), and an extended keyboard with a trackpad.
One added benefit of the Intel chip is that it can run Windows inside Bootcamp, which is currently not possible with an M1 Mac. You can run Windows in virtualization on a M1, but for some, that just isn’t like running Windows natively.
That’s true and that’s a big reason why sometimes I choose to bring my 2016 MacBook Pro instead of my M1 Macbook Air. That being said when I’m back at my desk I have an i7-4770k desktop to compensate for my Windows needs. Windows just does screen and computer audio captures so easily while MacOS requires complicated 3rd party plugins. Oh and my decade old Windows PC still games a lot better than M1, just that it can’t keep up with productivity work.
i bought a floor model 27 inch 2020 iMac from Best Buy for 800. I have total tech and apple care for extra reassurance. hopefully should still have lots of life in it. It looks and feels like new and I really love it. The fact it’s upgradable and has a 27 inch screen makes me pick it over the m1.
I would've absolutely bought the M1 iMac in a heartbeat if there was a 27" option for extra $200 or something like that, it would've been a dope machine, but a 23.5" display is a bit too small for my liking, despite the quality of the display being pretty great.
Apple for sure already had the Studio Display in mind last year. If they also released a 27" iMac with the exact same screen speakers mic and camera, plus keyboard & mouse, AND A COMPUTER INSIDE for the same price… Then people would realize how overpriced it is 🤡
@@joffrey6831 it’s what the people asked for. “Take the screen out of the 27in iMac and sell it as a monitor“ people didn’t realize the cost savings they were getting from an all in one
@@chidorirasenganz People asked for that in 2017, now it’s brand new and already outdated ! Even MacBooks have better screens 🤷♂️
The Studio Display is just an easy 5-in-1 solution for laptop users, with basic technology, no adjustable height and large bezels… Should be $1099 without the A13 chip, and a normal 1080p (lol) camera instead of the always cropped ultra wide one.
@@joffrey6831 It takes time to develop new products. Plus it wasn’t a concern until 2018-2019 during which they were working on the apple silicon transition.
What 5k display can you get for 1099$? The ultrafine lg is 1300 and made of creaky plastic with worse speakers, cameras etc
The Macbooks only have better contrast. They are inferior in size, resolution and brightness.
The monitor needs a processor so the a13 is fine. It would be dumb to use anything older than that.
Center stage is awesome and it doesn’t require you to use place your monitor in a certain angle to use your webcam. Plus the changing the framing when other people enter the frame.
@@chidorirasenganz You think Apple can’t develop a monitor while working on Apple Silicon ? At least you agree it’s 3 years too late…
Because there is no other option doesn’t mean it’s a good deal 🙄 You’re right about the LG Ultrafine costing $1299… in 2019.
MacBooks screens have more than higher contrast :
- can be set to 1000 nits (so not at all inferior in brightness)
- deep blacks with mini-leds
- 120Hz
- thin bezels
Same pixel density, just smaller screen for obvious reason.
No one care what chip is inside a monitor. Apple marketed the A13 inside like it was revolutionary 😱 Yet you can’t even use Center Stage on a Windows machine (meaning MacOS could handle it), and it doesn’t even support AirPlay !!
Center Stage on a desktop computer will only be useful 1% of the time anyway, not worth being stuck with a cropped image.
I bought a 2017 fully loaded iMac for $500 bucks recently. It was a great buy and I am glad I have it as my machine now. (:
if the M1 iMac was a 27" or larger display, I would have bought one. Especially if they offered a matching display for a 2 or 3 screen solution. Until something like this is available, I'll keep my 27" 5k iMac and 27" apple monitor. i7 and upgraded ssd makes it quick enough for everything I use it for.
I'm going to add another underrated one - the M1 mini. I picked it and an M1 air up at launch and my Mini does the "heavy lifting" - with handoff, I can set up a project on my M1 Air, and then hand it off to my mini to be rendered down to soup stock. Yeah, for faster rendering you should absolutely get the 16gb ram mini variant, but if you're setting up a project and leaving it to render undisturbed, it doesn't make much of a difference.
I personally own the 21.5 imac they I literally got for free and for me the biggest drawback was the camera. So I upgraded it as well, with a 1080p beast 🐗 I initially tried the 2020 imac 27" camera (the one that you cannot buy 😂) but even though its sharing the same connector it has a different pinout etc. I ended up hooking up the usb-protocol camera inside, works and looks like a factory form camera but exceedes most of modern machines (not that sharp as 14" and 16" macbooks though, but it's close 😊 ) happy to share more info if you're interested 😉
I really wish they made a 27 inch imac but at least they made a way to make the imac 24 look super cheap lol
A year ago, Inspired by your modded iMac video, I picked up a base model 27" iMac for my wife and close to maxed it out. 8GB -> 64GB ram (running at full supported speed), replaced the i5 8500k with an i9 9900K (running a custom fan profile to keep it cooler and boost performance), swapped the fusion hard drive setup with a 2tb nvme for the os and apps, and a 14tb HDD for storage. Since my wife needed it for our design business (Flavor Graphics), it needed to not have any compatibility issues that early M1 platforms were having. So far, it's served her well, and it's hard to beat the price-to-performance.
Love to see the video of that update!
What year iMac can upgrade from 8500 to 9900?
@@colinshum5216 2019 iMac
The M1 iMac is a great value…the “issue” is that most users are looking for laptops rather than desktops. I agree that the $200 upgrade from the base model is worth the money.
Upgrading the CPU memory and storage on that 2019 21.5” iMac is also an intriguing option. An i9-9900 CPU, 16GB-32GB RAM, and for some users, larger SSD makes it a very solid option.
I upgraded to a 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM on my 21.5 4k iMac 2019 model. Finally it is now a really sweet machine. Looking forward to upgrading the CPU but I can only find 'K' CPUs at a decent price. It's my understanding that the 'K' CPUs are not recommended for the 2019 iMacs because of heat dissipation.
@@jpreza If you haven’t looked already, check eBay.
Core i9 is really good and fast but just watch out for coil whine. I had a 16” MPB plagued by this issue. Also because it’s kinda over clocked the fans will probably be screaming if you are doing anything cpu intensive.
Exactly
definitely agree with your assessment.
i love the intel iMac for its upgradability but it’s still a $400-$500 iMac at the end of the day on old intel platform
for about the same price, i’d go for the M1 with its bigger screen, design and other features
In Russia it's still anywhere from 700 to 1200 USD depending on the condition
brooooo
So you would rather pay for cellphone and mobile device architecture cpus and gpus that are currently in most iPsds, Samsung’s, and iPhones? Why not just get you a Raspberry Pi 64-bit with 8gb or one of the more powerful SBC’s and do the DIY thing until reveals their patent, which is very similar to mine, another couple of products that are already out, and one that just got upgraded and re-released. If you have Samsung mobile devices, tv’s, etc., you should be smiling from ear to ear!! You already know what Apple is about to do!! If I find any of these previously released devices, I will show you exactly why all Apple customers who paid thousands of dollars for mobile cpu arm architecture in their expansive ass machines, are going to REVOLT!! I hope they release the folding iPhone, that I have been waiting for for at least four years now, soon; then I can really show off! Especially since it should come with a worldwide required standard usb-c port!! Yay!! Everyone in the world will understand what I am talking about then!! In the meantime, let me see if I can get the machine I want and combine with one of Samsung phones or a Raspberry Pi, or similar device!! All of us waiting to buy our next phone and not a new cpu, we will truly be blessed!!
@@DirtyMoney1971 i remember when I was 15 and I thought I knew everything too
@@speedyg123.i bought a 2017 4k retina imac with a quad core i5, 1 tb storage, 8 gigs of ram, and radeon pro 555 for 90 bucks. Honestly best deal on ebay ever ngl.
The 24" iMac is just perfect for me.... I don't usually do a lot of heavy stuff but when I do, the M1 chip is just good enough...
This past Spring, I spent all of the money from my COVID check, plus some of my savings, and bought a refurbished M1 Mac Mini w/ 16 GB RAM and a 2 TB SSD from Apple direct. I paired if up with a +15-year-old monitor so now I have a FrankenMac. I had thought seriously about buying a reburbished M1 iMac instead, but if I had, I would have wanted the VESA-mount version which wasn't offered as a refurb. I have to admit, it was a close call and I still wonder what it would've been like to buy a loaded refub iMac instead. I had no idea how upgradeable the final-generation Intel iMac was. That's interesting, but if I could go back in time I would definitely stick with Apple Silicon.
I'm surprised there's still no M1 Pro version of the iMac. I also think people might seem more value in an iMac if Apple still allowed you to use it in a monitor only mode, that would give it lasting value.
The 2019 21.5" 4K iMac is it! It's taken me time (years) to decide to split up what I do with my computers (music recording/production, photo and video editing) into 2 computers. For the DAW I use (Studio One) and third party plugins, even with more workability with M1's now, music software companies tend to take much more time to adjust and conform to new cpu's and operating systems. Probably partly because musicians/recording engineers and producers also like what they like and if it works, they won't fix it or change it for decades until it just won't work anymore. If only the price of CPU's would come down a little...
I personally do not like the new design. If they made it in silver aluminum with the apple logo and the black bezel, count me in then.
I've had the M1 iMac since launch, and it was a great replacement for my Mac Air. Now I don't need a second screen, and the sound is amazing. I went for the high tier model, and I do not regret it. Spend a lot of time using my computer, so money well spent. Would highly recommend this machine!
I buy them! Probably too many of them. 😅
I ordered a shiny new M1 iMac at launch, and I’ve purchased four refurbished ones over the past year for various family members. We all love them!
I get why people miss the 27” iMac, but I can also see why an all-in-one desktop is becoming a niche product these days, in a sea of MacBooks and iPads - especially with the new Mac Studio taking the performance crown, and the budget Mac mini positioned as the most affordable entry point into macOS.
But for the vast majority of desktop computing use cases, you just can’t beat the 24” M1 iMac. It‘s laptop simplicity in a desktop form factor, and that’s what I love about it.
I think the best deal is really a refurb 202 27 iMac. You can get the for good deals and can upgrade the ram to 128gb whenever you want. There are more ports, the screen is bigger and higher resolution, and performance is basically the same as the M1 chips. The newer M2 chips beat it, but those computers all cost a lot more once you add getting a bigger display etc
I bought the M1 and I would buy another one if I needed a new Mac right now. It’s a very nice computer. In fact of all the computers I’ve ever owned so far, this one is my favorite!
Between the core i9 and M1, i would go with the i9. This way all of my legacy apps would work without waiting on apple silicon versions of the apps to be made available.
When the hardware eventually is forced into obsolescence by Apple, I could install any number of Linux distros and breathe new life into the hardware.
How was your horses there, lad - do they have one of these available for my M2 MacBook? Thanks for the tip off anyway you are so very accurate in your description of the importance of having connectivity between diverse devices! Most of mine being Pole devices, from 2022 back to 2016
Still using my 2014
27 inch 5K iMac
Put a 2 TB hard drive in it runs big sir very fast. Great graphics. No need to upgrade. Does everything I want
For my use case (Medical Imaging) I’d choose the Intel because can run Win10 in Bootcamp and many if not most medical imaging and EMR software applications run only in Windows unless they are zero footprint and run in browsers as is true for the software based on my patents - Ikonopedia.
I used to use noting but 21.5" iMacs because it was all I could afford. I loved them for their size and how little space they use. I got a 2020 27" for $245 on FaceBook Marketplace which is a steal so I finally have a 27".
I have a soft spot for that monster 21”. If I was in the market, that’s what I’d go for.
I have the 21" 4K with a 560X and an 8500. Insane machine, love every bit of it.
Honestly, even with an i5 it's super fast and the GPU is more than enough (the 560X is the exact equivalent of the M1 GPU)
Love your channel from Russia 🇷🇺
For ease of use and everyday tasks I'd jam on the imac every day... but, for serious content creation I'd be drooling over the power in the Intel Mac's upgrade... yeah, I'm a long time PC guy... that really gets my interest up in these crazy days and uncertain times... an upgradable hands on machine it is.....
4:17 ₹85,350!! That's sooo cheap! doesn't have a refurbished store for India, and the base model sells for ₹120,000 ($1,547).... But still I bought it lol
I would buy the old one. For me, 21.5 inch display is OK and would look nice to have one on my desk.
ok, Luke calm down. I have to admit your are absolutely right. If I needed a desktop computer I would definitely buy one of these things (or have a look at the 27" version) and send you a thank you note later for the advice. My MacBook and me are perfectly happy together.
I remember “standing out in the crowd” with my iPhone back in 2008 😆
Just paid $799 for mine. I have your exact model. I use it strictly for grad school but it surfs the net just fine which is all I need.
Managed to get a steal on a 2015 27" 16GB i7-16GB for £250 :) Super happy. Normally a windows easier but MacOS is easier for WebDesign and business use. Creates a nice separation from gaming/other work from actual proper hard work lol -- Going to be slamming another 2x8GB in it soon. Popped a 1TB SSD in it and kept the 1TB Fusion drive and velcroed it to the back of the iMac to keep as a time machine drive
i think a got an even more of a steal. 2015 4k retina imac with a core i5 for 90 bucks lamo
I am legally blind & really need my 27” screen. I do like your content. 👍🏼
A PC user here. I don't like iMacs or any other Apple products but its nice to see your enthusiasm.
If Apple had brought out the 24" iMac with a 27/31" screen with the exact same specs, I would have snapped it up. Screen is way too small for me
I literally just seen one of these in my hometown for $800 used! If I didn’t have a baby on the way I would’ve bought that quickly!
OWC Other World Computing, This retailer sells everything for the iMac 21.5. Mine is running OS Monterey.
Thanks!
Costco has a sale now in UK £999 for this iMac with 8GPU, 16 GB Ram and 1TB SSD
Dude, the way you are holding the screen, totally makes me flinch 😅
FOR ONLY 1,000$!!!!!! OMG ..... i have 2$ in my bank account....
Shit, I got 75¢ 💀 😭
I really wish I could afford one at all. After multiple bouts with Covid-19 and pneumonia I’m finally getting ready to go back to work. I’ve had to sell everything to pay my bills but I’m blessed and back! Maybe I’ll be able to get me a new M1 or maybe the new M2 someday in about 5 years if I’m fortunate! Thank you for giving me hope and keeping me inspired bro!
The DYI’r in me is suffering…at 63 my eyes are fading, macular degeneration, so I’d have to go the more pragmatic route of grabbing the M1 and watch your videos to vicariously appease my desire to upgrade.
The 24” screen size would be a plus too. TY😵💫
Like you said, I upgraded a late 2012, 21.5" iMac. It is also running Sonoma 14.5. Lot's of fun. However, I just bought the M3 iMac. Don't know what the fate of the 2012 will be at the moment.
The other great thing about either of these machines is that you can use something like Luna Display to make it a 4K/4.5K monitor for a MacBook/Mini/Studio.
I'm watching this video right now with my 2012 mbp 13 in non retina after just updating to Monterey 12.4
Good video. Wasn't aware the most recent Intel iMac was RAM, CPU, and SSD upgradeable. I'll be looking more closely at refurbished iMacs, now. Presently I have an M1 Mini base model and a 2014 i5 Mini. So, you've certainly peaked my interest. Again, good video.
I have been waiting for an M1 … 27” or 30” iMac…. My 2018 MBP has been trouble and had to be serviced and got a bunch of parts replaced via AppleCare… but all my iMacs have been so much more reliable… and they have amazing screens! … and they run my legacy programs as well… invaluable
I loved my 27" iMac so much for so many years. The iMac screens need to be 27" or larger. For Mac to go backwards to 24" as the largest iMac was just heartbreaking for me. That's when I said that I was done with the iMacs. I hope that they will come out with the iMac 27" or larger in the future.
if they offered it in space grey, I'd buy. The funky colors are a no-no to my room.
There is one more good thing about intel IMac, You can install both Win10 and MacOS on it
I think the 2020 13” MBP with 4 thunderbolt ports is actually a pretty good machine especially since you can get one with a pretty low price nowadays. It’s a great secondary Mac if you love using Mac laptops but have compatibility issues with stuff that doesn’t run Intel applications properly since it’s the only machine with 10nm intel chips aside from the MacBook Air at the time which has inadequate cooling while the Pro has a pretty nice heat pipe and dual fans and you can replace the thermal paste yourself to make it run even cooler. It’s definitely way better than the 16” Intel variant which has the older and WAY more power hungry CPU and of course the over powered GPU for a laptop so using it on your lap isn’t particularly enjoyable. But the 13” with 4 thunderbolt ports is way better in value. The 1038NG7 is pretty good though going for the 1068NG7 since it has the thermal capacity to handle it along with fairly decent but not too power hungry integrated graphics is a really good option considering you can buy this machine for under $1000 or a little over if you go for the 32GB RAM upgrade and a storage capacity increase. Definitely not nearly as good as an 14” M1 Pro but compared to a MBP 13” with an M1 it’s almost on par with value and especially useful if you use older apps and/or jump between Mac and Windows and also like having the extra 2 ports on the right.
I'm sorry, but in no way is the 13" 2020 Intel MBP with 4 thunderbolt ports even close in terms of value to the M1 MacBook Air, let alone the M1 MacBook Pro. I'd take way better performance and reliability over 2 ports and 2 extra old apps, any day of the week.
Dude, these machines are so good. I still use a 2007 though, no need to upgrade 💀
I agree the 24inch iMac is amazing using it to watch your video instead of a lot other devices at my finger tips
I've taken my iMac apart a couple of times, I'd definitely go for the M1 and enjoy it without hesitation
Laptops have gotten so powerful and portable that desktops are often not a great option for most consumers anymore.
If someone wants a big monitor at home, they can buy just that - a monitor - and attach their laptop to it when they use it.
Yup
But Desktops are Cheaper
look for lots of sub-$800 base M1 iMacs (eBay, CL, FB market) after WWDC 2022 as new M-series Macs are introduced. That screen is beautiful and it has gobs of power.
M1 every time . I need to handle photos and write stories . Having compared iMacs alongside the M1 and the little beauty ticks all the boxes I need and more .
I bought the midrange M1 refurbished for $1600CAD. I call it my magic box. It's the most beautiful object ever created.
This is a Macnificent video, Luke ❤️😂😂
I'm just waiting for a larger iMac. Until then, I'll be rocking an M1 Mac Mini vesa mounted to the back of a 27" monitor.
How long will Apple support the Intel mac? That will dictate what I would buy.
I think the issue is the tiny screen and the candy coated looking. Just based on the design they really not aimed any serious user, they look like toys and they kept the size what usually picked for not tech savvy kids first computer. Also everything soldered no update or swp repair for a broken memory module or drive so its not future proof even a little (I have a 2007 working imac, still in use. This thing I would be glad if still running after 3 or 4 years...). Its more like a tablet with a stand solderd to its back.
$1000 what a sale
It’s all about perspective 🤭
That was good!
Luke, personally I find the redesign of the M1 iMac a failure and to tell you the truth it really looks cheap to me. I still find the old one more beautiful, more elegant and more prestigious.
I had a 27 inch Intel iMac and I replaced it with the 24 inch iMac (non-base model). I love it!
I have the basic m1 imac. It is great for photographers and home office, very reliable.
Great screen, takes little space on the desk, fluent working in lightroom and photoshop. An external ssd is necessary for bigger libraries.
I just hate that mouse :) usb ports could be much faster, but it is fine for photo editing.
The extremely reflective display and that thick chin a turn off. The m1 imac is also just a little underpowered at least on paper.
I'm watching this video on my new, to me, 21.5" iMac - 2015 model which I bought recently for less than £300 UK. It's probably not as upgradable as the one above as I believe it has soldered ram (and I don't do solder) but it's got a 1TB hard drive, a 3.1ghz processor and was totally mint! Thanks for the great content Luke.
look at the model on everymac, it will tell you everything you need to know
I have just updated my Late 2009 21.5" iMac that is still going (somewhat slow 4GB ram) just couldn't update the operating version to take advantages of the latest Photoshop & Lightroom functions or MS Office.
Loving my new 24" M1 iMac 16GB ram 1TB hard drive and the full Touch ID keyboard with numeral keys with 2nd 24" display attached.
Now you can't tell me you would find a 2009 PC still going without having ANYTHING being done to it from new.
Yeah, my 2013 27" is still shredding. Boots from a 2T SSD. Plenty fast. Renders 3D images quickly.
My wife has a 2017 21.5" iMac that I bought off the refurb store. The last couple of years there has been a thin red vertical line running down the display. I googled it and they say it is a bad ribbon cable. You can't hardly see it when you are logged on. It is mostly visible on the log on screen so she has been living with it.
I don’t know why you’re saying the 24” iMac is widely available. I bought one a month ago with a 1TB SSD. It won’t be delivered until late June.
Luke Miani. We're waiting for the 27"/30" that's why that M1 iMac is a bit of a sleeper. In my opinion.
I remember when you did the upgrade on the 21.5”
I'd say that the M1 iMac is the biggest redesign in 15 years, not 20 years. 20 years ago was the iMac G4.
Finally! Could you please often do videos, they are making me happy :)
Exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to get the 21 1/2 inch MK but I didn’t know if it would be upgradable. Thanks.
Who honks at you during a video ? Big waterways close by ? Miami Haulover inlet ?
I would choose one haves more ports than laptop because I know desktop are better because desktop doesn't power by battery but outlet and not so thin or getting hot in the inside too
I've got a 2013 21.5 inch iMAC. Love it just need to find a way to get a password into it. Fits as I live in a small studio.
I own a new iMac - in Red! You’re right Luke, it’s an absolutely sick machine!!!
I LOVE IT 😮
Luke, man, here's a testimony of someone who bought the Intel's Mac vs someone close to me who bought the M1 Mac. The exact both models of your video.
My Intel model is a BEAST! And yes, it's an Intel's i3 processor but with 3.6ghz of clock and 8gb of RAM. This other acquaintance, decided to go for the M1 model since he's a designer, edits videos and images and thought that the M1 processor would 'make up for the 8gb of RAM'. Clearly a mistake, but that's what happened.
So after talking to this friend, the conclusion I got: yes, it's an 'outdated' Mac, though I really love this metal aluminum frame and the Apple logo right on front - I actually prefer this design over the newer Macs. In addition, THE PORTS! You get FOUR USB-A ports, plus two USB-C (one is Thunderbolt I think, I've never used it), a 3.5mm audio jack AND ethernet port!! And those, my friend, make A LOT of difference on the daily for me (bare in mind, it's naturally my own scenario here and his).
Apart from that, I keep a lot of apps and tabs open, even using Safari it's a lot of processes for 8gb of RAM to handle, so there's that amazing 'feature' of this model you mentioned on the video: this one is upgradeable! So all I did was to swap my 8GB for 32GB. That's all I did, and this thing is the powerhouse of the house! I can only imagine what it feels like with an i9 inside! 🙌🏻
On the other hand, my friend can't seem to do much of anything with only 8gb of RAM - I still adk him why he'd buy something not appropriate for his own use, but anyways...
Point is, people, you can definitely save a lot of money with an incredible machine. I tell you, I keep a lot of things open here, many tabs open (Safari and Brave), you can upgrade this desktop to make it last for long years, even if you just throw in some more memory like I did. Plus the ports, you get a whole bunch of ports to have fun with and not the scarcity that the M1 brings (if that's your case).
Great vid Luke, these are indeed cheap and sick desktops that many people miss out on. Great value indeed!
They really need to put the Pro chips on the iMac. I would buy one as an office computer if it came with like the M-Pro or M-Max chips, but without them I ain’t spending $1000 on a really non pro in a my way machine.
27” M-Max iMac for like $4000. Yeah count me in I’m buying that.
Honestly, I use the mac Mini. I use a 33 inch monitor. I'm spoiled. I love the iMac Platform but NEED a Huge Monitor, which honestly 33" is small to me now. In fact I run 2--33" monitors. No way I could just go back to one screen.
I’m still rocking my 2010 iMac 27 inch that’s I use as a display/TV to my 2023 MacBook Pro 16in. I have a M3 max chip with the 40 cord GPU/128 GB of RAM so I’m well able to run extra higher quality and big monitors, but I still want to save some money cause I did drop 6 grand on my MacBook and the display is basically mint condition like no scratches no blemishes no nothing. I do have a PC for gaming and everything else with tons of monitors downstairs that I use for crypto mining and just hooking up PCs in general. But I mainly use my MacBook upstairs and usually just stream and watch RUclips videos upstairs on my bed anyways so that’s why I decided to just use my iMac as a display also because the quality is awesome compared to if I were to plug any normal display into the Mac. 😊😅
I’ve only bought one refurbished Apple product (2017 iPad Pro) and I’m never buying another refurbished product again.
They’re great value, until they stop working. And they do.
Egpu will also allow the intel version a few more years.
I would go with an M1 iMac 7-GPU core and *16GB of ram* . I can say 7-core is enough for video editing.
BUT you need to use proxies during editing and switch to original footage only when you are on the color grading step. I would say 8 GB on macOS is not so good. Believe me! Opening only Davinci and putting the footage on the timeline without any effect can take you around 3GB. Until you do the final step of editing a video (with effects, nodes, LUT, footage stabilization, and more...), I think it can take up to around 8-9GB, which is more than what is your hardware limit (because the OS and some installed apps can take you around 2.5-3GB already when you turn on your computer.
I just paid equivalent of $512 USD including tax, after promotions, for a brand new M2 Mac Mini from Apple.
I spent another $100, and bought a Magic Trackpad and Magic Keyboard (with numpad, no Touch ID) from Facebook marketplace for a great deal . They’re in perfect condition and I will probably make money on them if I need to sell them in the near future. And I literally found 2, fully functional 1080p Monitors in my buildings recycling area. A quick cleaning, and digging for some cables and they work great.
I sold my old MacBook Air to buy the new Mini, so it literally cost me $2 out of pocket for a brand new machine. The accessories will probably end up costing me nothing. The MacBook Air I sold was in fantastic condition, and a very capable laptop, I’m sure it will serve its new owner well.
Mac computers are amazing, and will last for over 10 years, no headaches, if treated well. My new mini is about 5x as powerful as my old Intel MacBook Air, and runs average 60-70 degrees C cooler, even if I push it harder!
This iMac, in my opinion, is not a good a deal.
I’d get a mini, an Air, or make the investment in a MacBook Pro. Macs are worth it
watching this on 21.5 inch iMac rn and i have got to say i really don't need more power than this