This game is dead for me. Men at arms dominating the whole season is one thing, but them wiping out 80% of golden unit of the new season is just wrong. Devs either don't care or don't know how to fix such core issues. After 2 years I don't feel like I progressed in this game.
Thanks, you just talked me out of the Queen's nights. Pretty much what I got out of this was they are good versus other buckler infantry except for men at arms which are the prominent one on the battlefield these days. They can also destroy Raton pikes. Aside from that. Seems like they suck
To be fair though…what meta unit can’t beat shield maidens currently? They need another 4 units to make them bottom line viable, just like any other Buckler unit.
I can beat any unit except Palace guard, Zweis, and Reapers with QUeen's Knights bottom line. You have to be reactionary to the enemy with the lunge. MAA you tank their charge and use 1 to nullify the mini charge. can wipe the unit only losing 1-4 models
@@JeffVader123 All I did was charge them in, wait a bit, then use their second ability. HOWEVER, in the initial charge, 7 of my units died somehow. Idk where the damage came from.
@ethanchen4504 the knight's lunge deals a massive amount of dmg. Charge with flails, swap to sword, then you wanna get your reapers into Tiger step asap to prevent the knights from cc'ing your unit. You might be out of luck if the enemy is top line knights, so it's still 50/50
I dont remember the exact number of the % buff, but both MAA and SS got nerf to their cover commander ability. They used to get high damage and damage reduction buff while the ability is active. However, after the patch, the % buff will be continuously reduce while they are in cover commander. So it would be better to re toggle cover commander from time to time rather than toggle once and roaming around until they are all dead or you switch to other unit.
The cover commander upin activation gives you a 60 percent damage reduction, which continously goes down to 40 or 45. Once it gets to that point it stops going down. Not a big diff but before getting into a new fight I would suggest X- ing them and then popping cover commander.
idk if it's usual thing but everytime i faced the queen knights using Hashashins i wiped them with no loses or eventually 1-2 hash lost to enemy hero lol
But the thing is we don't have a charge doctrine only few the received rest no special this isn't fair play either they should give the charge doctrine from the boxes atleast
Just finished my lvl 15 contract with them and I've got to say they are probably too strong. Myrms, orochi and tercios seem to have the upper hand on them though.
Obviously, MAA are far too strong, but I would be ok with them being able to 1v1 QK even after nerfs. My take is that gold units should be niche, specialty units that do one thing really, really well, and be subpar at other roles. Purples to me are your all-rounder gap fillers, and should be good in most fights but lose to a gold in it's niche.
But shouldn't golden shock buckler infantry shred purple ones? They should be direct upgrade. MAA are way overtuned. They do too much damage for a tabky unit.
@@morris_c0de463 i did but ofc you can't tell. Buckler infantry isn't niche so why should golden buckler infantry be niche? That's why i disagreed and why your take is weird.
I feel like the queens knights do not belong into this game. They look like fencers, duelists. Their abilties agree to that. They are not supposed to fight in sieges or stuff but for the entertainment of the queen
From what i know, flail is better as a first contact, charge, and vs shield, the swords are good vs the rest since they have higher dps, so depending on the situation you will want to change the weapon, for example, you start with a flail charge damaging the enemies shields after they have no more block you switch to sword and go for their tiger step ability dealing a huge amount of damage. If you have full mastery iron reapers with middle line you can use more the flail.
bottom line busts shields apart and can beat onna musha. you need to use your abilities in a rock paper scissors fashion. shield bash onnas to stun the hell outta of them, have killed many an iron reaper unit with bottom as well
Bro u are the worst unit tester, wtf is this, My queen knight kill full men at arms with 0 losses, I won 1v1 against reapers, Oruchi samurai, and every melee unit, with almost 4-5 losses. Try Top line omg
After this I changed to top line and that feels slightly better, so would recommend.
top destroy all
Iron damage also siege fighter doctrine is great on them.Try it
Lol I've only seen top line, so I was surprised to see how bad bot line was.
@@Stepcloserr well I'm happy to be of service 😄
top line dmg is necessary and they shred anything and everything, please do a topline video
This game is dead for me. Men at arms dominating the whole season is one thing, but them wiping out 80% of golden unit of the new season is just wrong. Devs either don't care or don't know how to fix such core issues. After 2 years I don't feel like I progressed in this game.
juegalas tu ....pillas esa unidad y ya esta problema resuelto xD
Am I the only one that saw the queens knights beat the men at arms or am I tripping?
With these guys I think top line and then the black doctrine as well as just doing everything to increase their damage serves them the best
Top line wipes men at arms, mastered with best doctrines
reapers as we;; right
Thanks, you just talked me out of the Queen's nights. Pretty much what I got out of this was they are good versus other buckler infantry except for men at arms which are the prominent one on the battlefield these days. They can also destroy Raton pikes. Aside from that. Seems like they suck
To be fair though…what meta unit can’t beat shield maidens currently?
They need another 4 units to make them bottom line viable, just like any other Buckler unit.
I can beat any unit except Palace guard, Zweis, and Reapers with QUeen's Knights bottom line. You have to be reactionary to the enemy with the lunge. MAA you tank their charge and use 1 to nullify the mini charge. can wipe the unit only losing 1-4 models
Queen's Knights obliterated my lvl 29 iron reapers. I'm sure you can do it too somehow.
@ethanchen4504 It pretty much depends on how well the reaper player is. Good reaper player, dead knights. The same is true for palace guards
@@JeffVader123 All I did was charge them in, wait a bit, then use their second ability. HOWEVER, in the initial charge, 7 of my units died somehow. Idk where the damage came from.
@ethanchen4504 the knight's lunge deals a massive amount of dmg. Charge with flails, swap to sword, then you wanna get your reapers into Tiger step asap to prevent the knights from cc'ing your unit. You might be out of luck if the enemy is top line knights, so it's still 50/50
Can you elaborate on the bit with MAA cover commander toggle to get 60% DR? I never heard of that but seems super useful
I dont remember the exact number of the % buff, but both MAA and SS got nerf to their cover commander ability. They used to get high damage and damage reduction buff while the ability is active. However, after the patch, the % buff will be continuously reduce while they are in cover commander. So it would be better to re toggle cover commander from time to time rather than toggle once and roaming around until they are all dead or you switch to other unit.
The cover commander upin activation gives you a 60 percent damage reduction, which continously goes down to 40 or 45. Once it gets to that point it stops going down. Not a big diff but before getting into a new fight I would suggest X- ing them and then popping cover commander.
thx for the info would've loved to see them vs halbs
They destroyed by lvl 29 iron reapers... and I was like WHAT?!
finally, a counterattack against the Men At Arms
idk if it's usual thing but everytime i faced the queen knights using Hashashins i wiped them with no loses or eventually 1-2 hash lost to enemy hero lol
Nice
I think with ironside doctrine they will trade better with MAA
Couldn’t you just get Ironsides for your maa as well?
@@drizzitdude Yeah i think the MAA in the video had it
@@drizzitdudeyou not only could but should. I have the ironsights with dmg buff. Makes them even more broken.
looks like they just avoid one big hit, anything with multi hit seems to wreck them, eg zweis, musha, ori etc.
What is that skin on myrmillones
But the thing is we don't have a charge doctrine only few the received rest no special this isn't fair play either they should give the charge doctrine from the boxes atleast
Just finished my lvl 15 contract with them and I've got to say they are probably too strong. Myrms, orochi and tercios seem to have the upper hand on them though.
what is this video song name?
Nice unit just maxed it
No cav tests?
Obviously, MAA are far too strong, but I would be ok with them being able to 1v1 QK even after nerfs. My take is that gold units should be niche, specialty units that do one thing really, really well, and be subpar at other roles. Purples to me are your all-rounder gap fillers, and should be good in most fights but lose to a gold in it's niche.
But shouldn't golden shock buckler infantry shred purple ones? They should be direct upgrade.
MAA are way overtuned. They do too much damage for a tabky unit.
@@hurstiwursti I don't think you read my message, so I don't feel the need to elaborate in response to yours.
@@morris_c0de463 i did but ofc you can't tell. Buckler infantry isn't niche so why should golden buckler infantry be niche? That's why i disagreed and why your take is weird.
Rattans bleed them but i dont appreciate speed reduction. Must be a bug.
mabe top line test soon? xD
I feel like the queens knights do not belong into this game. They look like fencers, duelists. Their abilties agree to that. They are not supposed to fight in sieges or stuff but for the entertainment of the queen
queens knights are vvery op now and can get over 60 kills with 1 ability in pushes and insta kills heroes
Yup oneshotted me through my units and I was standing 2 m away. Somehow was enough. Instant deletion without contact.
Idk bro my silahdars got destroyed. They only killed two how did he play them,?
why does the Reaper player switch between sword and flail constantly?
From what i know, flail is better as a first contact, charge, and vs shield, the swords are good vs the rest since they have higher dps, so depending on the situation you will want to change the weapon, for example, you start with a flail charge damaging the enemies shields after they have no more block you switch to sword and go for their tiger step ability dealing a huge amount of damage. If you have full mastery iron reapers with middle line you can use more the flail.
anti-cc, pops reapers back up when you switch
How do the walkers have charge?
one of the pike doctrines
I went against the queens nights 2 days ago. My men at arms are elite fully max with great docs. My men at arms got destroyed. So, this cant be right.
Maybe the guy is just better with men at arms than yourself?
@@Plumsion maybe.....Although, didnt do anything different...
Well than most likely the difference is top line to bottom line.
@@Plumsion I can agree with that also. Also, a chance
@@Plumsion top line destroys maa without a chance of counter play
well they're t5 unit,you playing mostly against t4 so,if you loose half of them vs t4 its still a win for the t4 i guess
They wipe t4 with almost no losses with the correct build
Top row vet is the way
western Orochi?
Kinda
i guess that means see you next season XD@@bizon4129
Why are your Units purple and Not yellow?
I changed them to purple
@@Plumsion how?
MAA right now is worse than when axe raiders were OP
Top line is the only way to run queens knight
Until..you run the bottom line with def, speed and doctrine. Seems pretty fun and annoyin.
bottom line busts shields apart and can beat onna musha. you need to use your abilities in a rock paper scissors fashion. shield bash onnas to stun the hell outta of them, have killed many an iron reaper unit with bottom as well
Mr Plum
Is paladins not a thing anymore?
Nah they got power creeped hard. MAA is superior in amy way except maybe pure charge damage.
Totally annihilate modao. Because modao generally suck vs infantry is my experience but dunno if i just have no idea how they should be played.
They seem cool. Not op not broken seems fine in my opinion.
Bro u are the worst unit tester, wtf is this, My queen knight kill full men at arms with 0 losses, I won 1v1 against reapers, Oruchi samurai, and every melee unit, with almost 4-5 losses. Try Top line omg
Lol calm yourself big boy
im sure supplementing your hero abilities and cc could def change the outcome. this test was purely bottom line unit v unit.
i thought it was a very helpful video! @@Plumsion
Oof.. confirmed they suck lol. No point in using them over MAA.
They don't suck, bad doctrines and bot line, If he had ironsides and top line it would end better
They are actually good, but yeah MAA are just insane for 215 LS
@@Plumsion they should change it to like 240 ls or nerf dmg. I like them but it gets boring if they are the unit that is meta for few seasons now
They destroy MAA, only things that kills them is zweihanders and Imperial pikes advance
@@Projolozweihanders wipe almost every unit except Tower shields so yeah
This game so unbalanced, on blue season is fun... AS soon as pruple arrives, the game becomes ridiculous