**NEW CODEX** Leagues of Votann vs Orks | Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Leagues of Votann have arrived!! Beard takes this brand new army to the battlefield to face Bard and the Orks! This Votann army features all the miniatures from the new box set including a Kahl, Eynhir Champion, Hearthkyn Warriors and the Hernkyn Pioneers in and they face a far higher model count in Bard's Goff Clan in today's special Battle Report!
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Next person that wants to mention Waagh Invuns are forgotten needs to just watch for a few minutes more 😉
Next person that brings it up will be automatically enlisted in the guard as a conscript
We love you chef! 😘
What about that trukk boyz lose Klan kulture and dont get the exploding 6s.
Ain't yo stoopid oomies knaw hadda read?
So glad someone pointed out the missed invuln saves! 😂
Even the viewers are getting judgement tokens
Space Orks v Space Dwarves. *wipes nostalgic tear away*
Also: Fletch has done a bangin' paint job on the Leagues of Votann models. Beautiful.
Titan fall vibes 😍
Those Dwarfs are amazing. Would love to see the recipe.
@@mattiasthornkvist7141 agreed! They have inspired me.
Fletcher being able to put out such an amazing paint job in such a short time is one of many reasons he is my favorite painter! The crew is lucky to have him 😊
He is kind of a god. Cant explain otherwise. Proof me wrong!
How I imagine Grim Efficiency is commincated;
"See those guys over there?"
"Aye, High Kahl"
"I don't want to."
"Understood, High Kahl."
That's a Guard meme!
@@nickosgood3292 still works for the leagues
@@Blade666324 Nah. It's a cool meme for a cool army. No one likes the LoV.
@@nickosgood3292 I like em. What I dont like is GW making them OP so ppl buy them more
@@nickosgood3292 Imperium fanboy spotted
Petition to make Chef play Votann every single time because he hates them.
He just wants fair and fun gameplay. Not to steamroller the other player.
seconded!
Excellent editing. Really appreciate the little animations for shooting, etc. And the presence of a servo skull (referee) is even more appreciated for those of us that are trying to accurately follow the chain of events.
Would love to see you guys do more small scale games like this.
Trukk-Boyz aren't Goffs, because you use the -Keyword for specialist mobs - so no exploding 6s for the Bosses
I originally had no intention of getting Votann. But I thought about painting the Combat Patrol in the colors of Borderlands Corporations.
But, I need to decide which corporation to use as inspiration. (Atlas and Hyperion are front-runners, but Jakobs & Maliwan are honorable mention)
I really like this idea
Only if you make/name your leader handsome jack
@@MrJonnylaa the flashiest dwarf
WHY NO TORGUE?!??! AGGGHHHH MR. TORGUE IS ANGRY!!
@@feral_orc Torgue would be great, and potentially thematically appropriate
Did Fletcher complete the army in 7 days or was it 6 with a day of rest included?
Good job chaps to get new models on the table. Very impressed.
Beard does a great job of remembering the names of stuff!
Thanks for this, always nice to see a new army and also a smaller game. Would be interested to see some smaller games as you get more new models ie. 1000 and 1500 points so new models get decent screen time.
As well as for those of us still trying to get our heads around the changes since 5th. Can only get some smaller games in so great to see how things differ between the different points.
You really get the feeling of that trademark GW balance when your shooting is so effective and your stategems are so cheap, your opponent is essentially throwing the game by participating in their own shooting phase
Most armies outrange them and they're slow. Just have to be smart.
@@samcook9542 haha yep did you listen when he talked about bikes, they are faster than eldar 😆 with pregame move, strat etc
@@peters6345 yes. One unit in the whole codex lol and they sacrifice shooting to do that
@@samcook9542 yep you can take 3 squads lol. While the rest of the army devastates your opponent with shooting ignore invun weapons on basic infantry
A tale as old of Gork - Orks vs Dwarfs.
I love it
We used to joke that the squats will get unsquatted before the imperial guard get their 9th edition codex.
Now this is both depressing and hilarious.
Yeah poor guard. One of the first to get their dex in 8th and one of the last in 9th.
Dwarfs vs. Orks. I’m a simple man and i like it
It's the grudge match we've all been waiting for! Waaagh!
@@foxbomber5 your name has been entered into the book of grudges.
Facts this brings me back
@@willy.b.b3427 Me an' my boyz 'll take your book 'n use it as loo roll, ya git.
Man, I understand GW needs to make new armies appealing but this feels cheap...
Great Shooting? Check
Better AoC? Check
Amazing Psychic Powers? Check
Better Markerlights? Check
Better than most Chapter Tactics? Check
It just feels like these guys are designed to be extra special snowflakes and make every other factions seem less impressive by comparison.
tbf, orks and knights are probably their best match ups, next in line being standart space marines and dg.
Sales of models is all that really matters to GW. They can sell more models by making them OP as all hell at release then nerf them 3 months later after everyone has already bought them. It's a standard tactic used across multiple industries.
Yea mate...Its really a shame...for instance i dont See a reason to play marines or admech...there is such a Power creep....
they are absolutely broken broken. watch vince's breakdown on statcheck lmao
Meanwhile, Necrons... Awful shooting and barely no extra spicy.
Votann bikes are obsec, but Custodian Terminators aren't? What.
It's the bane style coats that allow you to Obsec
Looking forward to playing against the Leagues of Votann in a couple of months after their inevitable nerf
Guess it happened way sooner than expected
Good news!
Wow, those magnarail guns have all kinds of neat abilities! That means my tech priest's much heavier magnarail lance will get to do cool stuff too, right?
Right?
I even feel bad for the Tau
The paint on those Votann looks absolutely phenomenal.
I love that new army's comes out and i like that its thematic. But the only thing i dont like is the "obvious certain things are way overtuned" Which obviously is needed for it to sell models. But they could approached it differently. But thats just me. the Lore and Theme of the Leagues are amazing and happy to see them. Keep up the good work.
Was thinking the same thing.... love that the Squats were having a revamp but some of those rules and weapons are soo over-the-top.
Like that little 3 barreled gun having 9 shots and having their basic troops hitting on 2+ because of one casualty!
I think for the long term health of the faction a broken release is good. It will get people excited for the faction and help build a new community. Then when it gets neef the comp players will sell their shit at discount to the people who jumped on because space dwarves good.
@@punkhippe I mean, the competitive players will jump the gun and ride the bomb flailing their stetson. When they're no longer the bomb, they hop of, put their army on eBay, which gets bought by someone who doesn't need their army to fight their fight for them, at which point they will start spreading to more common use and people accept them as just another type of Primaris.
@@Velgar_Grim absolutely. God bless them for it. I mean this with zero snark. Speedwaggh nerfs helped the casuals get into an expensive army. Its good for the community.
@@punkhippe No shade from here. Been using my share of "these are not cool anymore" moments to buy into armies.
Though I have on occasion joked at one or two about what they should buy next so that I can buy them later from them. XD
Doesn't change that they're buying them anyhow, but at least I've tried to make them aware of their own habits...
Bards warboss impression is not complete yet, but I see a lot of raw potential in there as well
Needs to get a little deeper
Someone should build a statue of Fletcher to use as terrain or something. Dude is a rockstar being able to get that entire box done in a week.
Votann look super cool and pretty fun to play too. I'm excited to see what some of the bigger games look like once the rest of their range comes out. They seem to have quite a few crazy good combos
They don't look "good', they look batshit broken. What you see here is Votanns tuned to an absolute possible minimum and they still steamroll. If you minmax the list just a little, they will remove any army from the board not later than turn three, unless the board is packed with terrain to a maximum.
Love the content guys, thank you. Amazing painting skills, really brings the army to life.
Really interesting game! Cool to see this early on for Votann and as always fun watching Beard and Bard battle baybee!
They’re so stupidly op
"Careful of who you play at your friendly local store." Says sad things about a new army.
Love how the game plays differently at smaller points. It seems at 2k points there are very distinct good and bad objectives from the deck.
Really appreciate the effort to get all those models painted up! Everything looks great!
can't wait to see the painting tutorial i've fallen in love with this scheme
Have you seen the tutorial and give me a rundown of the paints used? Unfortunately I can't afford the on demand subscription:/
Every dang time Beard says High Kahl my dog looks up like what the heck! Doggos name is Carl and for a play time we always say "HI CARL"
So Carl was definitely over this battle report. Me on the other hand had a good ol' time watching! Great paint job on them space dwarfs!
Very enjoyable game. Wish the channel done more smaller games like this.
Nice to see GW put the pedal back down for the LoV after letting off the gas a bit for CSM and CD....We have an army that outshoots Tau, outfights Orks, and has ridiculous durability, cheap strats, and gobs of special rules. The Champion with -1 to wound, AoC, no reroll wounds, 2+/4++, and -1 damage, plus a relic doing 3+d3 mortals on top of 3+d3 damage was just f'n stupid.
Why mine asteroids when mining Land Raiders is simpler and not as dangerous?
Everyone says “they’ll need them” but usually, they just increase the points. They did it with admech after their codex. It doesn’t actually decrease the lethality or durability of their batshit models, so they will still be just as frustrating to play against. Even if you win, it’s not fun when you can’t consistently wound your enemy, and they can; it feels like you are wasting models
Wow the paintjob on the Votann models is insane. My wallet is in fear of me right now.
The turn one WAAAAGH was epic! Well done Bard
Worth noting for people watching this late, that the combo talked about at 9:55 and onwards, does not work ever since the dwarves catched some heavy nerfs.
If you want to mess around with magna-rails, go for greater thurian league, so you can bring Ûthar the Destined, who simply gets to decide that a nearby roll is a six.
Why are the Space Wolves so short?
Wasn't the whole modified vs unmodified distinction created specifically to prevent things like magna rails from being insane?
If I remember from the leaks the judgement tokens state the auto wounds count as sixes for all rules
@@TheCrimsonArchivist Yes, which is what makes them so fucking stupid.
Oh it specifies in their judgement auto wounds that the wound counts as an unmodified roll of a six. They went out of their way to make them absolutely insane
@@greggillespie8259 That's exactly what I'm getting at.
Beam weapons can't friendly-fire Votann, because it excludes ineligible targets, and you can't target your own units in the shooting phase. Core rules state: "Only enemy units can be chosen as the target for an attack."
Shhh, don't tell them. We need to nerf the Leagues of Votann somehow. 😋
@@LordEsel88 GW will get around to it soon enough.
As the target of the attack sure, but you then draw a straight line from shooter to target hitting everything in-between.
@@DougieMonster31 no. It can only hit valid targets. So friendly units aren’t hit and characters protected by look out sir aren’t hit, even by the beam passing through them.
@@bensemusx That's silly then,it should hit everyone in the beams path excluding those that get look out sir.
More like "Leagues of Brokenn", amirite?
👀😆🤣
These armies are so incredible looking... just wow! That color scheme on the Votann is soooo good... and then the Orks showed up in a STUNNING green-on-green scheme. WOW!
Keep it up!
Fantastic paint job as always
Is the painting scheme somewhere to find?
@@Black_Blow_Fly were??
Second best squat battle report you've ever done ... 😉
100% accurate ❤️
@@tabletoptactics I glad chef wasn't playing squats, he's still in the book of grudges after all ...
Not at all a broken Codex.
You guys are GREAT fun to watch! Especially with the role playing moments! I literally laughed out loud so many times. Thanks for the awesome battle report!
I'm sure GW will drop the nerf hammer after 60months or so when sales on them come down.
Congrats on acquiring the Laowa 24mm - it’s a an awesome lens for miniature shots!
Beautiful job fletcher! Great game gents! I got my lodge dice this week and used them for the first time today! They helped me to a victory with my biel tan over some mixed dark eldar.
A big buff you forgot to use is the 5++ when the waaaAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! is called
Quell surprise, GW have released a OP new army.
Watching your other LoV vids (the one here and the one on demand) I could tell this would heavily favor the Votann because the smaller game against an enemy that sucks at shooting and immediately comes to you plays directly to their strengths and negates their weakness. They are slow, and their awesome weapons are fairly short range. A small board against orks is a pretty good scenario for them.
To be fair though, smaller games tend to favour armies that can field lots of bodies and which are melee focussed. I.e. Orks.
Hey guys, great game as usual. Just as a note, Brutal but Kunnin', like all similar traits, doesn't work on "bonus" attacks. As a result you can't reroll the extra attacks generated on 6's for Goffs. Didn't impact anything this time but might be worth noting for the future.
Other way around actually. The rule is that attacks generated by BBK/competitive edge can't themselves generate extra hits, so the second round of attacks don't double on 6s, the extra 6s on your first attack roll do give you bonus attacks if they fail to dl damage. This is even specifically addressed in the Ork codex FAQ
Okay, that does it. From here on in, I’m calling them Vulnerable saves.
Bard is amazing with Orks! Always should play
Hey there guys ! May I ask where the painting tutorial you mentioned is? Because DAMN these votann look awesome as hell !!!!!
Would love to see a painting tutorial on those league models 🤩
I wish you guys posted the final scores at the end.
"The Beard & The Bard" sounds like an awesome name for a metal band.
I agree with what was said about the paintjob of the LoV, they looks amazing, especially the Ironkin head looks outstanding.
I wish I could paint one model like that in a month let alone an army in 7 days. Fletcher is a legend!
Incredible to have this out already, keep up the great work TT!
Can’t wait for the painting tutorial. Great scheme. When will this be…?
Everyone is excited to see Squats, I’m excited to see Buzzgit & Mugfist back on the channel!
They're called Beard and Bard, let's not throw names around
Love seeing the small scale game! Really fun debut! Great work team!
Love the LoV models enough to seriously buy the army... untill I saw how OP they are :-S major turn off! I already have ALL the local Meta chasers selling up and jumping on them. Lol.
Keep up the good work guys :-) love the content!
I would never play with people who chase meta like that
@@michaelhansen2309 Sadly those people have no life.
Grudge tokens??? Positive effects that just happen no dice roll necessary, stratagem you shoot me I shoot you back, void armor, and 1st damage taken reduced to 0😵😵😵😵
Did Matt Ward come back from living under a bridge and write this Codex??
Votann is definitely in the running to be contenders for flavor of the month.
I don't know if they'll be any good or if I'll be good with them but I do know that the League of Votann just look like a whole dwarf ton of fun.
Your League is by my favorite paint scheme I've seen so far. Any chance you'll make a how-to video in the future or release your recipe?
The Dwarves are finally here. What a day to for settling a grudge against the vile Orks.
Good job! Orcs vs dwarves, you can’t get more classical than that!
I gotta admit, as much as I don't like the faction conceptually, the paint job makes them look much better and the models are definitely not as small as the first iteration was. Good job, Fletcher. I do get a kick out of the voice wafting over the game from the unseen, rules-encyclopedic servo skull about stuff the guys are getting wrong.
Definitely a fun game to watch and the Votann faction is going to get played to death by the try-hards until they are FAQ'd into a little more reasonable state. Right now even I could squeeze a win out of them.
I mean it's great to watch the Battle Reports and always fun to watch Beard and Bard.
We know GW needs to sell models and armies but these upgraded Squats are bit much 🙄
Orks could have done more here. They did attempt a single attack until the fight phase of turn 2 that's roughly 20-30% of their turns forfeited for moving and getting chipped away
I dont think im gonna get them (cause you know.. I only have one liver to spare if things go wrong and I have a bit more than 2k points of sisters and 1500 of eldars which is enough for now) but they do seem to have an interesting codex and id gladly face them.
Flatcher did an amazing job with this. So cool 😍
Great paintjob on the space dwarfs! I think beam weapons dont have an effect on friendly units, because you can not target your own units, so they are exempt like described in the beam rules.
The Orks fared better then I expected against a 'overpowered army to sell many army boxes' dworf patrol. Well done James!
Fun video, fantastic painting by Fletcher, nice table, good banter, and we did see some dworfs die so I am happy.
good match, good vibes, high quality krumpin'
I feel like I'm going all in on Skyne.... I mean Votann
I forsee a massacre ahead.
Maybe I could get a few space dwarves to help me with my black mold problem.
Feel like I have climbed at least 2 social classes just watching this video!
imagine 2000 points of those LPs. No wonder GW apologized. That's the most OP launch army ever. Maybe if you hide, redeploy smartly & kill their characters FAST FAST....maybe you'd have a chance.
I really enjoy that it’s so utterly unbalanced that everyone is laughing at this army
The army is gorgeous though, Fletcher knocked it out of the park, even with my misgivings with the books power.
Hmmmmmmm looks like no fun playing against the stunties, as they are massively overpowered.
I haven't even made it out of the Army list yet and the Votann sound broken as hell.
Doesn't even seem like they're playing the same game lmao.
Thanks for this fantastic report gentlemen. Shoutout to Fletcher for the gorgeus paintjob. Also, why do they remind me so much of Marines from Starcraft? ;)
They need minimum 10 very larg nerfs
You're Theyn can have a concussion gauntlet and bolter. I want to build mine that way but you have to replace your bolter with a melee weapon
More Bard with Orks!!
Incredible paint job on the LoV. Well done!
I would be thrilled to get that box painted in 7 months and they wouldn’t look half as good.
The LoV army is just beautiful!
when I hear the intro music I just think of the snake cult procession dance on Zee Bashews channel
Please give my compliments to Fletcher who painted the LoV! Love the scheme and fantastic job! Also, would he be willing to do a video on how he painted and based these?
Fletcher totally mental painting a LoV army to that standard already
Fletcher has done an amazing job with the Votann. When would we be able to see the vid on how he created such a killer army.
A really fun batrep. I’m only a casual player but they Dwarves seem rather overtuned to me.
Not really a fan of the make it strong so it sells, correct later model.
It's common for competitive games, GW is no different.
@@shanehudson3995 still a bit shitty
Where can I find the Votann painting tutorial? LOOKS UNREAL ❤️
those squats looks AMAZING. i had decided not to get any but now i have to!
Awesome surprise new army!