Don't know if you guys found out but the symbol that appears on Orange Piccolo is supposed to be the tree type that was on Namek. It represents his roots pretty well id say.
I got my brother into Dragon Ball by introducing him to Gamma 2 cus I knew he was the type of character he would really like... didn't mention the fact that he died until he watched the movie himself and that was an experience.
Beerus liking cheelai is still funny to me. kind of makes him feel more real, knowing he can also just like someone that isnt a strong fighter or something
Bruh the things in this movie I vibed with. 1. I told a girl I used to work with to do squats instead of sacrificing her kids livelihood for a BBL and she said "I ain't doin' that". Props to Piccolo. 2. Beerus understands a green little baddie when he sees it. 🟢✌️ 3. Gohan and Piccolo gets the spotlight and the comedy was on point.
The reason Beerus likes Cheelai is because she's the colors of the catnip plant, green, purple, and white. He does have a type, and I've noticed. He likes her because he's a CAT and catnip is an aphrodisiac to cats, not a drug, because it doesn't affect kittens under the age of sexual maturity.
Toriyamas original design for the Saiyan's was white hair with red eyes. It wasn't the blonde hair with the green or teal eyes. I'm glad Gohan got this form cause it's the strongest form so far but I wish they would cut down the hair size a bit.
About Pan flying as a baby.. heard it compared to how normal babies have a "swimming reflex" when tiny but have to be properly taught later I heard a fan theory about the plushies and it's kinda cute, the theory goes one day Pan had one with her when training and asked Piccolo if he liked it and since he isn't gonna be *too* blunt with a 3 yr old he just said "yeah it's nice" and so Pan went back to her parents like an excited kid does and exaggerated that he loves them, so Videl mostly is the one to just keep getting them for him Gohan not recognizing Piccolo... yeah I got nothing.. closest is a fan theory that since sometimes Goku couldn't recognize energy if not focused enough the Saiyan genes kinda dilute energy sensing so Pan being only 1/4 Saiyan is less diluted than Gohan's 1/2... or Pan has hung out with Piccolo a lot and Gohan hasn't done it in awhile I dunno.. Also yeah Bulma was *brutal* to Krillin.. like he is arguably the strongest pure human on Earth and got dunked on by a woman who *can't* do anything he can.. even Pan can fight more than Bulma can I dunno why she had to dunk on him like that Krillin.. you said you'd protect Bulma and Pan and you didn't even try to fly to Pan to help protect her.. it is a miracle that Pan figured out flight when she did or you would have had to explain to Gohan you let his daughter die because you're a pansy.... god that'd be a crazy storyline tho, imagine Goku and Gohan pissed at Krillin for that and just cutting off any friendship they had for him not even trying to do anything My favorite thing about Vegta winning is.. he actually did earn it, he talked about how much people like Jiren conserved their energy and he put that into practice and.. barely won, but won nonetheless
Lol, notice when Goku asks for lunch before the fight, both Vegeta and Broly nod in agreement. Of course only the Saiyans would want to prioritize food before a fight.
@@ZacharyHawkshawno I’m pretty certain OP is spot on… Gohans power up altered the weather (aka the clouds). Like even if it’s artificial (not _simulated_ but artificial) rain that was created by RR for dramatic effect, Gohans lower up could still drive away those artificially made clouds.
@@huzaifakashif1389 No, Android 16 resembled Gero's son. I didn't know that it was his second son, and that they didn't show the first son, that might likely be the inspiration for another one of the past Android's looks.
Also Bulma is literally going to start the Dark Dragon Ball arc on her own with all those selfish wishes🤦🏾🤣😂🤣 big reason why they can make “SOME” GT arcs canon but better.
Fun fact, they (including Toriyama) forgot that Goten and Trunks should have already been aged up by the events ongoing in Super before the Tournament of Power. Technically they were definitely not supposed to be that small (they looked even younger than buu arc) and they used this movie time jump as an opportunity to fix that lmao... Trunks hair color mismatch also suffers a similar fate lol
6:38 The dub treats Brief(s) as Bulma and her family's last name due her dad being named "Dr. Brief", but in Japanese, no one besides Goku's family, the Son family, has a family name. So in the original version of the show, "Brief" is just her dad's name, not his last name, but the dub treats it as a last name, creating "Bulma Brief(s)" from it. It does this with other characters too. Take Mr. Satan, for example. In Japanese, "Mr. Satan" is just a stage name (with Toriyama saying in an interview that if he were to give him a real name it'd be "Mark"). When DBZ and the video games were coming to the west, they didn't want to call a character "Mr. Satan" and have parents complain about it, so they renamed him "Hercule". When the uncut dub came out, they decided to combine his censored and uncensored names, creating "Hercule Satan". They probably did this so kids who were used to hearing him be called "Hercule" on TV wouldn't be confused about him being called something entirely different on their DVDs. It was done as a way to ease them into "Mr. Satan". The side-effect of this is that the dub now gave him a first name, "Hercule", and turned his title, "Mr. Satan", into a proper name (like how you'd call someone "Mr. Smith"). You'll notice in the dub of DBZ that some characters also called Videl "Videl Satan" as a result. TL;DR: Bulma's last name is only "Brief" in the dub.
People treat this like it's some big thing but it's not. The Japanese version doesn't say anything one way or the other, leaving it entirely possible and easy to ASSUME her last name is Briefs. People keep treating the Japanese version saying nothing one way or the other as a "definitive no" and that's not how logic works. The fact that it doesn't say anything one way or the other just means they don't say anything one way or the other. It's assumed. That's all it is. It's assumed simply because it makes sense. That's all.
@the-NightStar congrats on saying a whole lot of nothing. A lot of people naturally assume "Brief" is the last name because that's what we're used to. But like op said, we're told that very few characters in the Dragon Ball world have surnames. Videl even tells us that in the Boo arc. In Super Bulma is referred to as "Dr. Bulma" on a couple of occasions and not "Dr. Brief". In Toriyama's other works like Dr. Slump, most if not all characters have surnames in that. So if he wanted Bulma or anyone else to have one, he would have given them one. So what is logical is taking all that into account and accepting that her father's name is just "Brief" instead of trying to argue over semantics
Also, to add to this, I do believe VIdel mentions at one point that surnames in DB are rather rare, which is why she had already suspected Gohan was Goku's son.
@@the-NightStar I mean, it's explicitly stated in the original version, so it's not really an assumption. Like the other poster said, they don't call her "Dr. Briefs" for example, they call her "Dr. Bulma". Last names aren't really a thing. That said, I still use "Bulma Briefs", "Hercule Satan" and "Tien Shinhan", as does the dub. There's nothing wrong with them or using them, but if we're talking about the original version of the show, then like I said, last names aren't a thing.
Unfortunately that’s not the reason for the inconsitency. It’s because ”canonically” Pan was supposed to learn flying in this movie, but Toei already made her fly during their filler episode, which was not part of Toriyama’s story or vision. Just one more example of the mess of a production whole Super is, with the three separate continueties (manga, anime, movie) + the true canon of Toriyama’s story notes.
@@grydon6422 The movies are part of the general continuity though, because the Super manga has adapted the Super Hero movie events. And with Toriyama's unfortunate passing, what's 'true' canon and what isn't is now a moot point tbh, because we no longer have the OG creator's input. We just have DB now, and have to decide for ourselves what's 'true' or not - we can't limit ourselves to only what Toriyama wrote.
@@grydon6422the filler episode was years before superhero theres no proof that toriyama had all of superhero planned out that long ago. Toei beat toriyama to the punch
You know, it's kinda brilliant having Capsule Corp. going on 24/7 Dragon Ball retrieval duty. Considering what anyone else besides the Z Warriors getting their hands on them always wish for. Well, except for Oolong. Looking at you, you dirty pig!
Lmao imagine it's possible some of the dark dragons lied when asked what wish they came from.. "And what wish were you spawned from?" "Giving Bulma that melon butt!"
Another thing I wanna add is that this movie kind of made me appreciate the Shadow Dragon saga in GT a bit more, despite the fact that it has its flaws. The reason why I say this is because we definitely really look at Bulma in a completely different light even more. She’s really the main reason why shit really hit the fan in GT. Especially if you take into account with all of the dumb ass wishes she keeps making with the dragon balls. I love how Piccolo told her off and was like: “How about you go to the gym and work out like everyone else?!” I really don’t blame him for that at all lol.
I know that there was quite the mixed reaction with this one and I can kind of see why that might be the case. With that being said, Super Hero is still a very solid and entertaining film. At first, I wasn’t sure how I would had felt about the animation but once I saw it, I really liked it and it grew on me afterwards. I kind of wanna see more of this style. One of the things I liked most about the movie was that for ONCE, the story didn’t revolve around Goku and Vegeta. For once, we got to see the side characters getting some love and attention this time. Particularly with Piccolo, Gohan and Pan. It was also nice seeing the Red Ribbon Army kind of being up to no good again after all these years. With Gamma 1 and 2, I found them rather interesting. They’re not the villains here at all. They had what they thought was good intentions but they were in fact, used and manipulated. Same with Dr. Hedo and I liked that they got a good ending. My only real complaint was Cell Max. He looks cool and all that but I really disliked that they rushed him as a character and I also kind of disliked how they made him very primitive.
Manga retconned it a bit. But the truth is Goku is ass at meditation. He struggled with Popo and he struggled on Yardrat, and when he tried to meditate again against Gas he failed and had to use True Omen.
If I’m right the streaming version and most the home versions of this movie has a greenish tint which wasn’t in the cinema/theatre version. That’s why Piccolo looks extra weird
I was not that into this movie when I saw it but on a rewatch I saw all the little details and now I really like it. I like the animation especially the camera movement Gohan Blanco is canon 😂
Im not to sure where I heard this from but the form Gohan uses in this movie is actually what Toriyama envisioned the first super sayian form was supposed to look like before we got the blonde hair and green eyes
gohans new form is crazy. its basically SSJ2 for ultimate. ultimate 2? ultimate + gohan rage boost? also did you notice, he was about to be cocky again and mess up until piccolo snapped him out of it by calling his name.
It gets confirmed in some recent chapters but beast is stronger than mastered ui, and that its gohan towing the line between losing himself in his rage and honing it. back in super when gohan and goku 1v1 he talks about a "new sayian form, one i'll find in my own way" so its more like his ss blue. Its his mystic forms ki with his ss ki merged to make a new form. Like ssblue is sayian god ki plus super sayian ki. And rose is supreme kai ki plus super sayian
@damiancooper8365 asspull form with no training or dragonball wish.....and nothing was confirmed goku was not serious in that fight so take ur gohan ass lickin somewhere else
@mAcChaosCh where was getting mad and getting strong in tournament of power when whole universe was at stake.....getting mad cannot eclipse one from mystic which was barely above ssj3 to leagues of perfected ui
Possible spoiler alert. The gammas are supposed to be equal to current Goku and Vegeta due to the fact the dragon Ball super superhero film taking place after the moro arc which places the gammas power level around the level of perfected ultra instinct Goku and ultra ego Vegeta. If you don't believe that the gammas power level is at least super Saiyan blue kaioken x20 Goku and super Saiyan blue evolution Vegeta who themselves are more powerful than ultra instinct Goku during the tournament of power. So orange piccolo was able to one shot gamma 2 means he could also one shot Jiren at his max power. Cell max is at least as powerful as broly when he went into his legendary form which doesn't account for how powerful broly is now after training with Goku on Lord beerus planet.
@@nvp8191 I understand the urge to compare but you can't really scale the anime to the manga and vice versa. I don't have a problem with your conclusion overall but you can't really include the Morro arc until it's in the anime. Mainly just because how drastically different the scaling was in the tournament of power in the Manga versus the anime. There's no telling how different the Morro arc in the anime might be.
They are obviously not UI or UE Goku&Vegeta level. Otherwise Gohan and Piccolo would have been one shotted, but they were not. It’s just one of those bloated statements that the feats don’t back up.
@@grydon6422 Given the recent events of the manga, I'd consider Orange Piccolo to probably be closer to Blue Evolution considering Gohan Beast is clearly much stronger than OP. That should mean the Gammas are probably like SSB level max.
Im not sure about the hero series..... they have began on Patron OG Drago Ball..... and they have mentioned once OG is completed they will get to the remaining movies.
Gamma 1 and 2 have been created by Edo taking great saiyaman 1 and 2 as example, when he spoke about old fashionable heroes he was refering to gohan and videl and in fact Gamma 1 and 2 other then being named 1 and 2 copy also the justice speech of great saiyamans and they got even great saiyaman 1 and 2 moves, when Gamma 2 do the kick that's the kick of justice by great saiyaman 1 and 2, in fact Edo is 24 in this movie so mean that when gohan and videl was great saiyaman he was a barely a kid and this is why he say old heroes, i guess he use to heard about them and watch them on TV and became a fan, also the design of the Gammas are basically great saiyaman 1 and 2
i really wish they made a 1/2 hour special of the little epilogue that happens after this in the manga, its so good and felt like a goodbye from toriyama.
i just wanted to say the guy on the left looks pretty red he might usually be like that but if not be careful because he might have a mild allergy reaction, just making sure.
There's a six month time period between him getting out of prison and the battle I didn't quite understand but I believe the costume is just a costume and it's just his actual skin is impenetrable by small caliber bullets he did say my skin was injected with something to make it that way I'm sure he got the costume after he got out of prison lol
To be honest they did gohan justice this movie finally the only highlights he's had since z was when piccolo whipped into shape for the tournament of power and he was able to stand toe to toe with goku in ssgss plus kaioken not sure what multiplier he was at but still that alone is impressive but for some odd reason they made ultimate gohan look better in this movie than he did in the tournament of power
@@Keitumetsemulaudzi no imagining for me thanks I'll stick with the facts. Facts like you don't know Goku was holding back. And facts like he's never beaten Vegeta.
@Morrowind4732 keep crying 😂 I never said he's beaten vegeta but it's clear as day goku just loves playing around. And if you can't accept that go cry yourself to sleep I'll bring tissues for u 🤣
You guys should watch all ultimate from dbxv2 All LF’s in db legends Since their are no spoiler left(og dragon ball gets little to no representation in games
My pros and cons with SH Gohan: Pros; -We now know what his studies are. -He is engrossed with his work. So screw the “quiet desperation” headcanon. -In peace time, he not only stayed in good shape but learned a technique. This puts him above Buu and RoF. - Despite rennacting Cell Games, Gohan was able to realize when to stop the fight & finish it; the lesson from his ToP training still relevant. Cons: - Did Beast really have to be a Cell Games 2.0. Couldn’t Gohan get a new form without anger? - Not liking the implication that he’s neglecting Pan here, considering how Super. characterized Gohan as a more devoted parent. I’d like to consider this a temporary problem forever resolved. - Not sure what to make of Gohan showing his devotion to Pan via anger. I thought his calmer but still concerned parentry in the Saiyaman mini arc was a breath of fresh air (can’t there be a better/different way to show love aside from getting angry?) But no, it’s back to the well again.
Bulma is the smartest dumb person I know. What didn’t she just wish for the ability to alter her appearance at will? I know it’s a running gag at this point but it’s kinda annoying lol
Awesome movie reaction and Gero he created Android 16 in the image of his so Gevo who is dead and Android 21 has the appearance of Gero’s late wife Vomi and Gohan’s new form is called Beast so Beast Gohan
if i had a nickel for every time zeno robinson voiced a character who thought he was a good guy following orders but was actually being fed lies and false info by an evil creep, i'd have at least 2 nickles. which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice, right?
thing is that after dragonball super Top Its the broly movie then is manga -prison planet arc, then its granolah arc and then its super hero and the story so far has ended after super hero for now in manga after Akira passing
To be fair I doubt piccolo could guess what numbers or style clothing would mean so stole one which means he took place of that specific guy which should help hiding him better
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This movie was just oh shoot! We forgot about Piccolo and Gohan. Let's give them some power boost. Piccolo and Goahn didn' t need to train at all to gain their new powers.
Gohan for sure but say piccolo is fine he trains basically 24/7 one the strongest nemakians in their universes history I can say that with possibly god ki being introduced with training of goku and vegeta I can say it makes sense for piccolo, gohan tho they just did very dirty
Tbh I hate “Orange Piccolo” lol it’s bad… at least make it “Piccolo Orange”, that sounds a bit better than _Orange Piccolo._ But I’d rather it be something different entirely… like maybe something using and/or deriving from hidden potential, awakening or Shenron (Shenlong).
Ngl the transformation is an ass pull, NO, no training in the background blah bullshit explanation justifies it, the best part of the movie is the Special Beam Canon
In Super, anime and manga, he did say he wanted to evolve differently than the current forms So yeah, within the movie it is, but outside that it's not particularly (at least, any more than a number of the other transformations we've gotten over the franchise)
Don't know if you guys found out but the symbol that appears on Orange Piccolo is supposed to be the tree type that was on Namek. It represents his roots pretty well id say.
he’s the dragon warrior 🗣️💯
It’s supposed to be like Yggdrasil
Unfortunately they did not allude to that or bring it up before or after. So wish they did mention what that symbol was for the audience
@@DEADtoRISE08No, those trees are called Ajissa Trees
Haha. Root. Cause it's a tree.
Gamma 2 was a real one. His death, just like 16's, was tragic 😢.
I got my brother into Dragon Ball by introducing him to Gamma 2 cus I knew he was the type of character he would really like... didn't mention the fact that he died until he watched the movie himself and that was an experience.
Gohan using his dad's strongest attack was hype
I love how focused these dudes were on figuring out Beerus' type 😂
😂😂😂
I know it! Cheelai looks like the catnip plant and it's an aphrodisiac to Beerus, because he's a cat!
Beerus liking cheelai is still funny to me. kind of makes him feel more real, knowing he can also just like someone that isnt a strong fighter or something
Even funnier bc of whis’ comment about him having a type. It puts his leniency with Bulma in a different context lmao
Bruh the things in this movie I vibed with.
1. I told a girl I used to work with to do squats instead of sacrificing her kids livelihood for a BBL and she said "I ain't doin' that". Props to Piccolo.
2. Beerus understands a green little baddie when he sees it. 🟢✌️
3. Gohan and Piccolo gets the spotlight and the comedy was on point.
The reason Beerus likes Cheelai is because she's the colors of the catnip plant, green, purple, and white. He does have a type, and I've noticed. He likes her because he's a CAT and catnip is an aphrodisiac to cats, not a drug, because it doesn't affect kittens under the age of sexual maturity.
Toriyamas original design for the Saiyan's was white hair with red eyes. It wasn't the blonde hair with the green or teal eyes. I'm glad Gohan got this form cause it's the strongest form so far but I wish they would cut down the hair size a bit.
About Pan flying as a baby.. heard it compared to how normal babies have a "swimming reflex" when tiny but have to be properly taught later
I heard a fan theory about the plushies and it's kinda cute, the theory goes one day Pan had one with her when training and asked Piccolo if he liked it and since he isn't gonna be *too* blunt with a 3 yr old he just said "yeah it's nice" and so Pan went back to her parents like an excited kid does and exaggerated that he loves them, so Videl mostly is the one to just keep getting them for him
Gohan not recognizing Piccolo... yeah I got nothing.. closest is a fan theory that since sometimes Goku couldn't recognize energy if not focused enough the Saiyan genes kinda dilute energy sensing so Pan being only 1/4 Saiyan is less diluted than Gohan's 1/2... or Pan has hung out with Piccolo a lot and Gohan hasn't done it in awhile I dunno..
Also yeah Bulma was *brutal* to Krillin.. like he is arguably the strongest pure human on Earth and got dunked on by a woman who *can't* do anything he can.. even Pan can fight more than Bulma can I dunno why she had to dunk on him like that
Krillin.. you said you'd protect Bulma and Pan and you didn't even try to fly to Pan to help protect her.. it is a miracle that Pan figured out flight when she did or you would have had to explain to Gohan you let his daughter die because you're a pansy.... god that'd be a crazy storyline tho, imagine Goku and Gohan pissed at Krillin for that and just cutting off any friendship they had for him not even trying to do anything
My favorite thing about Vegta winning is.. he actually did earn it, he talked about how much people like Jiren conserved their energy and he put that into practice and.. barely won, but won nonetheless
Lol, notice when Goku asks for lunch before the fight, both Vegeta and Broly nod in agreement. Of course only the Saiyans would want to prioritize food before a fight.
Beerus' type: Sassy-way-above-their-weight-class short-haired women with a figure lol
35:18 what do you mean "WhErE DiD tHe RaiN gO?" ... He powered up so much that he moved all the clouds around him.
the rain was an illusion that red ribbon set up for dramatic effect, you can literally see the sfx shatter when he powers up to ultimate
@@ZacharyHawkshawno I’m pretty certain OP is spot on… Gohans power up altered the weather (aka the clouds). Like even if it’s artificial (not _simulated_ but artificial) rain that was created by RR for dramatic effect, Gohans lower up could still drive away those artificially made clouds.
I hope y'all noticed that Dr. Gero's son resembled Android 16.
@@huzaifakashif1389 No, Android 16 resembled Gero's son. I didn't know that it was his second son, and that they didn't show the first son, that might likely be the inspiration for another one of the past Android's looks.
Also Bulma is literally going to start the Dark Dragon Ball arc on her own with all those selfish wishes🤦🏾🤣😂🤣 big reason why they can make “SOME” GT arcs canon but better.
Gt had some excellent ideas, just a horrible execution, so I'm all for it
Chile kind of gives Bulma vibes, just not as aggressive. The fact that Lord Beerus is thinking of rizzing up the woman that likes Broly is crazy!
Fun fact, they (including Toriyama) forgot that Goten and Trunks should have already been aged up by the events ongoing in Super before the Tournament of Power. Technically they were definitely not supposed to be that small (they looked even younger than buu arc) and they used this movie time jump as an opportunity to fix that lmao... Trunks hair color mismatch also suffers a similar fate lol
praying this stays up
6:38 The dub treats Brief(s) as Bulma and her family's last name due her dad being named "Dr. Brief", but in Japanese, no one besides Goku's family, the Son family, has a family name. So in the original version of the show, "Brief" is just her dad's name, not his last name, but the dub treats it as a last name, creating "Bulma Brief(s)" from it.
It does this with other characters too. Take Mr. Satan, for example. In Japanese, "Mr. Satan" is just a stage name (with Toriyama saying in an interview that if he were to give him a real name it'd be "Mark"). When DBZ and the video games were coming to the west, they didn't want to call a character "Mr. Satan" and have parents complain about it, so they renamed him "Hercule". When the uncut dub came out, they decided to combine his censored and uncensored names, creating "Hercule Satan". They probably did this so kids who were used to hearing him be called "Hercule" on TV wouldn't be confused about him being called something entirely different on their DVDs. It was done as a way to ease them into "Mr. Satan".
The side-effect of this is that the dub now gave him a first name, "Hercule", and turned his title, "Mr. Satan", into a proper name (like how you'd call someone "Mr. Smith"). You'll notice in the dub of DBZ that some characters also called Videl "Videl Satan" as a result.
TL;DR: Bulma's last name is only "Brief" in the dub.
Love to see other fans spreading that good and true information. We've come so far.
People treat this like it's some big thing but it's not. The Japanese version doesn't say anything one way or the other, leaving it entirely possible and easy to ASSUME her last name is Briefs. People keep treating the Japanese version saying nothing one way or the other as a "definitive no" and that's not how logic works. The fact that it doesn't say anything one way or the other just means they don't say anything one way or the other. It's assumed. That's all it is. It's assumed simply because it makes sense. That's all.
@the-NightStar congrats on saying a whole lot of nothing. A lot of people naturally assume "Brief" is the last name because that's what we're used to. But like op said, we're told that very few characters in the Dragon Ball world have surnames. Videl even tells us that in the Boo arc. In Super Bulma is referred to as "Dr. Bulma" on a couple of occasions and not "Dr. Brief". In Toriyama's other works like Dr. Slump, most if not all characters have surnames in that. So if he wanted Bulma or anyone else to have one, he would have given them one. So what is logical is taking all that into account and accepting that her father's name is just "Brief" instead of trying to argue over semantics
Also, to add to this, I do believe VIdel mentions at one point that surnames in DB are rather rare, which is why she had already suspected Gohan was Goku's son.
@@the-NightStar I mean, it's explicitly stated in the original version, so it's not really an assumption. Like the other poster said, they don't call her "Dr. Briefs" for example, they call her "Dr. Bulma". Last names aren't really a thing. That said, I still use "Bulma Briefs", "Hercule Satan" and "Tien Shinhan", as does the dub. There's nothing wrong with them or using them, but if we're talking about the original version of the show, then like I said, last names aren't a thing.
Thanks for knowing children can forget something they might of been able to do as babies. So many people get hung up on pan flying.
Unfortunately that’s not the reason for the inconsitency. It’s because ”canonically” Pan was supposed to learn flying in this movie, but Toei already made her fly during their filler episode, which was not part of Toriyama’s story or vision.
Just one more example of the mess of a production whole Super is, with the three separate continueties (manga, anime, movie) + the true canon of Toriyama’s story notes.
@@grydon6422 But it does still make sense, you can do something accidentally as a baby and forget you did it
@@grydon6422 The movies are part of the general continuity though, because the Super manga has adapted the Super Hero movie events.
And with Toriyama's unfortunate passing, what's 'true' canon and what isn't is now a moot point tbh, because we no longer have the OG creator's input. We just have DB now, and have to decide for ourselves what's 'true' or not - we can't limit ourselves to only what Toriyama wrote.
@@grydon6422 my god y’all just love the complain…
@@grydon6422the filler episode was years before superhero theres no proof that toriyama had all of superhero planned out that long ago. Toei beat toriyama to the punch
You know, it's kinda brilliant having Capsule Corp. going on 24/7 Dragon Ball retrieval duty. Considering what anyone else besides the Z Warriors getting their hands on them always wish for. Well, except for Oolong. Looking at you, you dirty pig!
Lmao imagine it's possible some of the dark dragons lied when asked what wish they came from..
"And what wish were you spawned from?"
"Giving Bulma that melon butt!"
Dude Gamma 2 is the man he’s like you didn’t think to confirm it and now it’s my turn.
Also a funny thing, in the manga after this movie, Vegeta keeps rubbing it in Goku's face that he beat him lol
Another thing I wanna add is that this movie kind of made me appreciate the Shadow Dragon saga in GT a bit more, despite the fact that it has its flaws. The reason why I say this is because we definitely really look at Bulma in a completely different light even more. She’s really the main reason why shit really hit the fan in GT.
Especially if you take into account with all of the dumb ass wishes she keeps making with the dragon balls. I love how Piccolo told her off and was like: “How about you go to the gym and work out like everyone else?!” I really don’t blame him for that at all lol.
The 1st Goku v Vegeta still GOATED
I know that there was quite the mixed reaction with this one and I can kind of see why that might be the case. With that being said, Super Hero is still a very solid and entertaining film.
At first, I wasn’t sure how I would had felt about the animation but once I saw it, I really liked it and it grew on me afterwards. I kind of wanna see more of this style. One of the things I liked most about the movie was that for ONCE, the story didn’t revolve around Goku and Vegeta. For once, we got to see the side characters getting some love and attention this time. Particularly with Piccolo, Gohan and Pan. It was also nice seeing the Red Ribbon Army kind of being up to no good again after all these years. With Gamma 1 and 2, I found them rather interesting. They’re not the villains here at all. They had what they thought was good intentions but they were in fact, used and manipulated. Same with Dr. Hedo and I liked that they got a good ending.
My only real complaint was Cell Max. He looks cool and all that but I really disliked that they rushed him as a character and I also kind of disliked how they made him very primitive.
Goku already knows what meditation is, this movie seems to have forgotten that though.
Or maybe they forgot the serious Goku from Z
or maybe just goku forgot cuz its been yearss😹
Manga retconned it a bit. But the truth is Goku is ass at meditation. He struggled with Popo and he struggled on Yardrat, and when he tried to meditate again against Gas he failed and had to use True Omen.
@@specialnewb9821 You know a lot about Dragon Ball, but some fans don't know that Goku already struggled at meditation From DB to DBSManga
@@DIYExplorerXthey weren't real fans then 😂
Did they notice that Dr Gero’s son looked like android 16
Yeah they reacted at that part lol
If I’m right the streaming version and most the home versions of this movie has a greenish tint which wasn’t in the cinema/theatre version.
That’s why Piccolo looks extra weird
I was not that into this movie when I saw it but on a rewatch I saw all the little details and now I really like it. I like the animation especially the camera movement
Gohan Blanco is canon 😂
Im not to sure where I heard this from but the form Gohan uses in this movie is actually what Toriyama envisioned the first super sayian form was supposed to look like before we got the blonde hair and green eyes
Piccolo has 2 new forms first one looks more gold and losses his dark lines on his body. 2nd is his new orange piccolo form.
That guy had a hole in the roof of his car so his hair could fit of course his going to shoot a child 😂
I dint notice easily they mentioned how Gero is actually related to 16 and 21 nice
Yes!!!! Finally time for the GOAT to shine!
Ah yes, more of my favorite character getting his moment to shine! Woooo
most genuine reaction bros like me 😂👏🏽 7:34
Son Gohan new form is the Beast 🔥🔥🔥
It’s always a good day When the abtv posted keep it up yall doing good
I said it wasn't lol. Capsule Corp was started by Brief. It's his dynasty. Brief doesn't have a last name.
54:28 if you listen carefully you can actually hear Teen Gohan screaming over Adult Gohan's scream
gohans new form is crazy. its basically SSJ2 for ultimate. ultimate 2? ultimate + gohan rage boost? also did you notice, he was about to be cocky again and mess up until piccolo snapped him out of it by calling his name.
Asspull form
It gets confirmed in some recent chapters but beast is stronger than mastered ui, and that its gohan towing the line between losing himself in his rage and honing it. back in super when gohan and goku 1v1 he talks about a "new sayian form, one i'll find in my own way" so its more like his ss blue. Its his mystic forms ki with his ss ki merged to make a new form. Like ssblue is sayian god ki plus super sayian ki. And rose is supreme kai ki plus super sayian
@damiancooper8365 asspull form with no training or dragonball wish.....and nothing was confirmed goku was not serious in that fight so take ur gohan ass lickin somewhere else
@@adityayadav-fq5lv gohans style has always been "get mad, suddenly the strongest", but theres only so much buildup you can have in a 2 hour movie
@mAcChaosCh where was getting mad and getting strong in tournament of power when whole universe was at stake.....getting mad cannot eclipse one from mystic which was barely above ssj3 to leagues of perfected ui
Fun fact: In the manga, the robot bee actually BEATS UP Krillin!
Gamma 2 getting beaten up was un preventable because he did the thumb pose curse
Possible spoiler alert. The gammas are supposed to be equal to current Goku and Vegeta due to the fact the dragon Ball super superhero film taking place after the moro arc which places the gammas power level around the level of perfected ultra instinct Goku and ultra ego Vegeta. If you don't believe that the gammas power level is at least super Saiyan blue kaioken x20 Goku and super Saiyan blue evolution Vegeta who themselves are more powerful than ultra instinct Goku during the tournament of power. So orange piccolo was able to one shot gamma 2 means he could also one shot Jiren at his max power. Cell max is at least as powerful as broly when he went into his legendary form which doesn't account for how powerful broly is now after training with Goku on Lord beerus planet.
@@nvp8191 I understand the urge to compare but you can't really scale the anime to the manga and vice versa. I don't have a problem with your conclusion overall but you can't really include the Morro arc until it's in the anime. Mainly just because how drastically different the scaling was in the tournament of power in the Manga versus the anime. There's no telling how different the Morro arc in the anime might be.
They are obviously not UI or UE Goku&Vegeta level. Otherwise Gohan and Piccolo would have been one shotted, but they were not. It’s just one of those bloated statements that the feats don’t back up.
@@grydon6422 Given the recent events of the manga, I'd consider Orange Piccolo to probably be closer to Blue Evolution considering Gohan Beast is clearly much stronger than OP. That should mean the Gammas are probably like SSB level max.
That sounds like it’s just a bunch of head cannon gobbledygook nonsense to me chief lol
Are you guys gonna watch the Dragonball heroes season? Also are you gonna watch World's Strongest, Lord Slug or Tree of Might movies?
Im not sure about the hero series..... they have began on Patron OG Drago Ball..... and they have mentioned once OG is completed they will get to the remaining movies.
In the manga krillin was following Hedo and Magenta in the car and got knocked out by Hachimaru
Bryan's tan hitting hard lol
Gamma 1 and 2 have been created by Edo taking great saiyaman 1 and 2 as example, when he spoke about old fashionable heroes he was refering to gohan and videl and in fact Gamma 1 and 2 other then being named 1 and 2 copy also the justice speech of great saiyamans and they got even great saiyaman 1 and 2 moves, when Gamma 2 do the kick that's the kick of justice by great saiyaman 1 and 2, in fact Edo is 24 in this movie so mean that when gohan and videl was great saiyaman he was a barely a kid and this is why he say old heroes, i guess he use to heard about them and watch them on TV and became a fan, also the design of the Gammas are basically great saiyaman 1 and 2
Gth stands for Go To Hell 😂 it’s a joke because Videl is her mother and Mr. Satan is her grandad
i really wish they made a 1/2 hour special of the little epilogue that happens after this in the manga, its so good and felt like a goodbye from toriyama.
i just wanted to say the guy on the left looks pretty red he might usually be like that but if not be careful because he might have a mild allergy reaction, just making sure.
Their last name is only Brief in the english dub. In the original version, they don't have a last name.
There's a six month time period between him getting out of prison and the battle I didn't quite understand but I believe the costume is just a costume and it's just his actual skin is impenetrable by small caliber bullets he did say my skin was injected with something to make it that way I'm sure he got the costume after he got out of prison lol
Awesome!
To be honest they did gohan justice this movie finally the only highlights he's had since z was when piccolo whipped into shape for the tournament of power and he was able to stand toe to toe with goku in ssgss plus kaioken not sure what multiplier he was at but still that alone is impressive but for some odd reason they made ultimate gohan look better in this movie than he did in the tournament of power
I enjoyed this movie it was lighthearted and fun
She's not just in Dragon Ball Z Fighterz if you play Z Kakarot or super dragon ball heroes she'll make an appearance in both of those games
Enjoy the movie y’all 😊
Vegetas reaction always made me laugh because Goku has never beaten Vegeta 1 on 1.
I mean either way vegeta is still weaker, goku just playing around
@@Keitumetsemulaudzi he told you that himself did he?
@@Morrowind4732 u can imagine he did
@@Keitumetsemulaudzi no imagining for me thanks I'll stick with the facts. Facts like you don't know Goku was holding back. And facts like he's never beaten Vegeta.
@Morrowind4732 keep crying 😂
I never said he's beaten vegeta but it's clear as day goku just loves playing around.
And if you can't accept that go cry yourself to sleep I'll bring tissues for u 🤣
The explanation is in the manga guys
Definitely my favorite dragon ball movie.
29:00 Pan - "Stranger Danger!"
LETS GO
魔貫光殺砲で決めるところがいい。悟飯かっこいい
The gammas remind me of Leonardo and Michaelangelo.
Akira toriyama originally wanted super sayains have red eyes
Gamma 1 and 2’s personalities are based on Goten and trunks
This movie takes place after the gronolah arc so they can handle broly
Beast Gohan
Beast Gohan is awesome 😎
Gohan's new form is called Beast Gohan
You guys should watch
all ultimate from dbxv2
All LF’s in db legends
Since their are no spoiler left(og dragon ball gets little to no representation in games
54:53 the name is beast gohan
My pros and cons with SH Gohan:
Pros;
-We now know what his studies are.
-He is engrossed with his work. So screw the “quiet desperation” headcanon.
-In peace time, he not only stayed in good shape but learned a technique. This puts him above Buu and RoF.
- Despite rennacting Cell Games, Gohan was able to realize when to stop the fight & finish it; the lesson from his ToP training still relevant.
Cons:
- Did Beast really have to be a Cell Games 2.0. Couldn’t Gohan get a new form without anger?
- Not liking the implication that he’s neglecting Pan here, considering how Super. characterized Gohan as a more devoted parent. I’d like to consider this a temporary problem forever resolved.
- Not sure what to make of Gohan showing his devotion to Pan via anger. I thought his calmer but still concerned parentry in the Saiyaman mini arc was a breath of fresh air (can’t there be a better/different way to show love aside from getting angry?) But no, it’s back to the well again.
Bulma is the smartest dumb person I know. What didn’t she just wish for the ability to alter her appearance at will? I know it’s a running gag at this point but it’s kinda annoying lol
Awesome movie reaction and Gero he created Android 16 in the image of his so Gevo who is dead and Android 21 has the appearance of Gero’s late wife Vomi and Gohan’s new form is called Beast so Beast Gohan
Love to see you react to the anime series of dragons balls super super hero next ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤is going to be awesome to see you two react to it
if i had a nickel for every time zeno robinson voiced a character who thought he was a good guy following orders but was actually being fed lies and false info by an evil creep, i'd have at least 2 nickles. which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice, right?
you two should watch the entire story of moro arc and granolah arc
Yeah I think you guys are overthinking it… Beerus seems to like girls with shirt hair and a nice body
thing is that after dragonball super Top Its the broly movie then is manga -prison planet arc, then its granolah arc and then its super hero and the story so far has ended after super hero for now in manga after Akira passing
13:45 wait a minute, he can conjure clothing... he's beating that guy for fun lol
@@MetalGuitarEdi clothes beam!!
To be fair I doubt piccolo could guess what numbers or style clothing would mean so stole one which means he took place of that specific guy which should help hiding him better
This movie is cannon, it is added to DBS manga too
Its been years and yall still wont tell us the background song you guys use
music.apple.com/ca/album/the-original/1708935286?i=1708935287
open.spotify.com/track/3hp4VNgIK2luyJrnKRKgik?si=RVpRN-cQTRy-GBK94t5YIA
Here you go :) you can also listen to all of the other songs we used on the channel. All of them produced by me!
-Alex aka “magknow”
Are u guys gonna react to the manga as well?
This movie was just oh shoot! We forgot about Piccolo and Gohan. Let's give them some power boost. Piccolo and Goahn didn' t need to train at all to gain their new powers.
Gohan for sure but say piccolo is fine he trains basically 24/7 one the strongest nemakians in their universes history I can say that with possibly god ki being introduced with training of goku and vegeta I can say it makes sense for piccolo, gohan tho they just did very dirty
@Wolfbroa I feel like the story from dbz Buu saga all the way to the movies got weaker. It's all about Goku and Vegeta. Jokes, etc...
Im here before copyright strikes CAN I GET A FOUUUUKKKKK
Fouuuuuuk
I hate this was the last movie but hope the franchise continues… I miss it. Rest in peace A.T. 💔🩸
No, Bulma's last name isn't Brief. I think the english dub just sticks with that for continuity.
Don’t think too hard about beerus’ type he likes cheelai and that’s it
Check out Dragon Ball Super: Broly Abridged, its extremely hilarious!
Burma’s dump truck
One of my favorite movie! Vegeta finally beaten Kakarot 😎🦾🤘
Piccolo a teacher a friend and a babysitter for the new generation
Dragon Piccolo is a better name than Orange Piccolo.
54:58 that form called Beast Gohan
let's go
hi guys, thanks for video, can you react to the moro and granola arc on video following the broly movie that would be awesome
Tbh I hate “Orange Piccolo” lol it’s bad… at least make it “Piccolo Orange”, that sounds a bit better than _Orange Piccolo._ But I’d rather it be something different entirely… like maybe something using and/or deriving from hidden potential, awakening or Shenron (Shenlong).
Ngl the transformation is an ass pull, NO, no training in the background blah bullshit explanation justifies it, the best part of the movie is the Special Beam Canon
In Super, anime and manga, he did say he wanted to evolve differently than the current forms
So yeah, within the movie it is, but outside that it's not particularly (at least, any more than a number of the other transformations we've gotten over the franchise)