Karma came back to Havertz who ended up being the fool of the match, missed easy sitters and the penalty shot that lost the match for his team. Cheaters never win
I get the fact that Havertz milked the situation... But then one has to put in to question the lack of intelligence of Maguire... I mean, what was he trying to do by reaching at Havertz with an outstretched hand like that? Unless he thought he was in a rugby game for a moment there... That alone, is impeding the attacking player's pathway - he is an idiot Maguire.
@AlbertMartin-p8d var is not eligible for this round of the fa cup... Don't know why, my guess is because there are still alot of smaller teams who cannot implement it due to stadium quality or costs.
United are playing a low block for quite awhile, it suits his ability. They are more compact now and focus on defending tightly. He got a lot of criticism in the past when United tried to play a high defensive line, exposing his mobility.
Its the first period in a looooong while where talking about Maguire havent got my blood boiling. He has been really bad for years. Its a nice change i dont have to be nervous every time he hats the ball.
Maguire is a class example of never giving up when you're down. I was one of many who made fun of his performances, but he deserves the praise he is getting for his recent performances and display of passion.
Thing that annoyed me with Man Utd & Maguire is he was really good for a long time & then went to shit & got tons of stick (in my opinion unjustified) but other players who were just as bad if not worse received very little. Maguire has & always will give 110% even if he isn’t playing well he will try to push himself & that’s something Utd have lost in recent years. Bruno has been shocking too but slowly getting back to something like the player he was & I disliked him for a long time but was impressed with him after the Arsenal game talking about the team, all he needs to do now is shut his mouth a little bit more on the pitch & stop whinging & he will be a good footballer
if the FA had a citing panel who could review incidents post match as they do in Rugby, they could catch cheating and take action, a few 3 match bans will stop teams doing it as a tactic. Sadly cheating is condoned by the FA, Managers and pundits. You hear comments after every game, he went down easily, he made a lot out of that you cant tackle in the box etc etc. Screaming and rolling in agony when its clear, in slow motion , the player was not even touched. Its cheating, its conning the ref and can get a fellow "professional" banned for multiple games. How world football can keep calling it the beautiful game is beyond me. In too many games its not the best team that win, its the best cheats.
Havertz , and Newcastle's Gordon are 2 of the most disgraceful players milking penalties in the league and getaway with it ,with ore without VAR , and mostly var out to safe face with the officials and award those cheaters the benefits
Wishful thinking, and I'll tell you why. Referee performance is evaluated by other referees. Disputes about corruption and truly shoddy refereeing are adjudicated by the PGMOL, a group which represents professional referees. It's wolves looking at a field of dead sheep that some other wolf killed and deciding, "I don't see a problem here. This is business as usual. We'll have a word with the wolf who killed all your sheep, that's the best we can do." Even when referees have a match that's so bad action is taken (like last year against Anthony Taylor who truly botched the Wolves game), all that happens is they get sent down to referee at Championship level FOR ONE WEEK, and then it's back up to the EPL.
@TubbysWorld4413. Iv never seen a intire team dive as mutch as Arsenal. Sure, every team has one or two overacting, but the entire team? That and corners is what they depend on, its a clown team.
Actually.... This guy is difficult to hate... All those previous tough years he patiently waited and never left the club... Also I really don't have much to say about his defending...it was never that bad .. on air he was always one of the best... The issue was his passing and decision making when to have the pass... If he can have more confidence then it will be nice - de ligt, maguire and licha
@@sayantankundu3784 fr bro maguire is a good defender...its true he done some stupid mistakes...but he was always good...haters are those who watch football from youtube
@@sayantankundu3784I always liked him because he never went to his buddies to get shit leaked unlike lingaed, rashford and pogba. Can say a lot about some of his big mistake but his professionalism can/should never be brought into question
I have never seen a useless referee like this one. ... He has to be punished .how can you give a fake red card, fake penalty,fake yellow cards to one team. Look at bruno's foul and it went unnoticed and even give a fouled player a card
i don't think it left anyone divided. That was a suspiciously wrong decision of that ref. Amongst many other one sided questionable decisions. I'd even go that far to investigate this ref, so embarrassingly awful it was.
What an embarassment! Arsenals loss was so humiliating. Not only against 10 men, not only with the referee being so so biased, they still couldn’t win. Absolutely embarrassing having that little rat Havertz on their team. Their season is over!😂😂😂
arsenol played well only to make United's players sent off..they did it..but justice has come...12 men arsenol lost against 10 men ManUtd...eat that karma SOAB
That’s a stupid question… a fair referee would have booked Havertz for simulation. I’m interested to see if any investigations would follow on the integrity or competency of this referee.
Havertz got knocked over by a breath of fresh air, Maguire NEVER TOUCHED THE CHEAT HAVERTZ. Justice was done as we Man Utd won on penalties, Arsenal same as Man City and Liverpool just a bunch of cheats.
Havertz took a shot...it's not like it's his first !! Heck, his "acting" is only rivaled by Bereton-Diaz. Odegaard was SHUT DOWN in amazing fashion, and all's right in the world. Why dwell on it ?
Shocking comments about it not being a penalty Maguire clearly pushes him with his hand off the ball. How can that not be a penalty. Hypothetically if this happened outside the box and Maguire was the last defender and he did this he would have seen red. A push is a push.
Man U fan !! I haven't watched every team, but we have seen so many players cheat over the years, whether in the box or not. Face it, it will never stop !
That dive should get him a post game 5 match ban th8s should be done on all games if you dive in game and gain reward 3-10 mach ban depending on severity
Ref should be imvestigated. Better yet fired. It was 12 vs 10 men in this match. But we still won. Never in million years that was a penalty. Yet bruno got yellow carded for showing his anger and disssapointment when jesus was clearly way behind him and tumbled against his legs and made him fall. Nothing was given. That was very suspicious.
We can't investigate every referee for every bad decision. We'll run out of referee's. Before var, human error like this always happened, we are just not used to this anymore.
Unlike the Arsenal managed by Wenger, This Arteta team are full of arrogance. That F Havertz dived everytime. Just like Jesus. Also Jorginho, Partey when play right back dived too
The game has become a joke. I watched a player recently diving into the box trying to cheat a penalty. TG he failed. Saw two youngsters last year playing at being footballers in the house. As soon as the rubbed shoulders passing each other straight onto the ground looking for a penalty. Jesus we used to try to imitate Pele or Bobby Charlton. real players.
Karma came back to Havertz who ended up being the fool of the match, missed easy sitters and the penalty shot that lost the match for his team. Cheaters never win
Justice served
“Cheaters never win?” Tell that to Man City
@@saar144the ffp charges havent been proved ,and they win on the field with football ,grealish is the only diver ,in the team
Maradona won lol
umm 1986 WC???
Never a penalty, not even close.
I get the fact that Havertz milked the situation... But then one has to put in to question the lack of intelligence of Maguire... I mean, what was he trying to do by reaching at Havertz with an outstretched hand like that? Unless he thought he was in a rugby game for a moment there... That alone, is impeding the attacking player's pathway - he is an idiot Maguire.
@@gavinvonmeyer3746 nah the the ref was looking for an excuse and havertz gave him that never a pen
@gavinvonmeyer3746. It was a freekick, players do way worse without a penalty being given.
Ref should be sacked.
Why the problem is the FA. If they’ve going to use var they should use var at all competition why jump some games and implement another games
Was VAR not in use if it was why did it not intervene or does it only apply for certain teams
@AlbertMartin-p8d var is not eligible for this round of the fa cup... Don't know why, my guess is because there are still alot of smaller teams who cannot implement it due to stadium quality or costs.
Even Bruce Grobbelar was embarrassed
Arsenal have put him on the transfer list, or he may go out on loan to Citeh.
I’m a Leeds fan but Maguire has rebounded after a lot of criticism during Man U poor spell and he has hung in and back to being a good defended!
United are playing a low block for quite awhile, it suits his ability. They are more compact now and focus on defending tightly.
He got a lot of criticism in the past when United tried to play a high defensive line, exposing his mobility.
Its the first period in a looooong while where talking about Maguire havent got my blood boiling. He has been really bad for years. Its a nice change i dont have to be nervous every time he hats the ball.
Maguire is a class example of never giving up when you're down. I was one of many who made fun of his performances, but he deserves the praise he is getting for his recent performances and display of passion.
Thing that annoyed me with Man Utd & Maguire is he was really good for a long time & then went to shit & got tons of stick (in my opinion unjustified) but other players who were just as bad if not worse received very little. Maguire has & always will give 110% even if he isn’t playing well he will try to push himself & that’s something Utd have lost in recent years. Bruno has been shocking too but slowly getting back to something like the player he was & I disliked him for a long time but was impressed with him after the Arsenal game talking about the team, all he needs to do now is shut his mouth a little bit more on the pitch & stop whinging & he will be a good footballer
Man Utd won, didn't they.....
Tbh, the ref should be investigated. This level of bias can't just be incompetence. There has to be something graver going on there
10 man united beat 11 asnal+1 ref ...amazing.
The ref should be investigated.
i like the +1
A masterclass in gamesmanship? It's a dive. Which is simulation. Which is cheating
Havertz certainly didn't fool everyone, only the one who called it a penalty!
Arsenal have the most despicable players fans and manager in the league and that referee was a disgrace.
Can't stand arsenal there so entitled
they are savages. This is why they can't fully shake their curse
@@Victorvinegar right, I feel like all the jokes we use on Liverpool fans could be used on arsenal to.
Absolutely. And I can’t stand it that Arseteta is now the pressroom little darling, now that Kloppy has gone
Gotta love Ugarte’s passion, bro had to take on Havertz too
@@gustavomendes3111 they had beef since high school😂
Which shool was that i need to check something @@youngswizzyc5515
It was not a penalty. It was a clear cheating on behalf of the Arsenal player!
Maguire the stopper ❤❤
havartz nominated for a oscar with Kyle Walker
Broke back mountain
Bro. Jesus was the best actor hands down
Walker & Havertz are both known as shit housery players.
It was not a penalty... 12-man Arsenal lost to 10-man ManUtd... Karma at its best!!
Frr
The problem lies with the referees. The football assoc should do something about it.
if the FA had a citing panel who could review incidents post match as they do in Rugby, they could catch cheating and take action, a few 3 match bans will stop teams doing it as a tactic. Sadly cheating is condoned by the FA, Managers and pundits. You hear comments after every game, he went down easily, he made a lot out of that you cant tackle in the box etc etc. Screaming and rolling in agony when its clear, in slow motion , the player was not even touched. Its cheating, its conning the ref and can get a fellow "professional" banned for multiple games. How world football can keep calling it the beautiful game is beyond me. In too many games its not the best team that win, its the best cheats.
Arsenal Got Their Well Deserved Karma 💯 .
Havertz , and Newcastle's Gordon are 2 of the most disgraceful players milking penalties in the league and getaway with it ,with ore without VAR , and mostly var out to safe face with the officials and award those cheaters the benefits
If that was a pen then i am Brad Pitt
Brad Pitt would only love to be that good at acting
Beating Arsenal at their home ground with the ref playing for them is pure genius
All these bent referees are going to be called out when Man City face the consequences.👯👯
Wishful thinking, and I'll tell you why.
Referee performance is evaluated by other referees. Disputes about corruption and truly shoddy refereeing are adjudicated by the PGMOL, a group which represents professional referees.
It's wolves looking at a field of dead sheep that some other wolf killed and deciding, "I don't see a problem here. This is business as usual. We'll have a word with the wolf who killed all your sheep, that's the best we can do."
Even when referees have a match that's so bad action is taken (like last year against Anthony Taylor who truly botched the Wolves game), all that happens is they get sent down to referee at Championship level FOR ONE WEEK, and then it's back up to the EPL.
same old arsenal always cheating sad old arsenal no cup this year
Last week ref at Anflied was just so pathetic.
Arsenal, it's like Netflix. It's very interesting. What will be next season 😅😅
@@gheorgheceban5607 😂😂
lmao always cheating??? seriously???
@TubbysWorld4413. Iv never seen a intire team dive as mutch as Arsenal. Sure, every team has one or two overacting, but the entire team? That and corners is what they depend on, its a clown team.
Never a pen
Cheaters like Havartz should receive a 3 match ban, ref was very poor and inconsistent.
Maguire is a clear leader , pointing out this decision against Havertz shows the character of Man U shades of Roy Keanu captaincy here
Maguire is back and solid in defence for the last couple of tough matches.. Expecting consistency from him.. all the very best...
Actually.... This guy is difficult to hate... All those previous tough years he patiently waited and never left the club... Also I really don't have much to say about his defending...it was never that bad .. on air he was always one of the best... The issue was his passing and decision making when to have the pass... If he can have more confidence then it will be nice - de ligt, maguire and licha
@@sayantankundu3784 fr bro maguire is a good defender...its true he done some stupid mistakes...but he was always good...haters are those who watch football from youtube
@@sayantankundu3784I always liked him because he never went to his buddies to get shit leaked unlike lingaed, rashford and pogba. Can say a lot about some of his big mistake but his professionalism can/should never be brought into question
Amorim will do what he did on seb. Coates on sporting....just wait and see
No VAR, referees go back to their usual one eyed decisions. That was a despicable decision if he saw it. If he didn't see it then play on.
Dodgy referee
Justice, Karma, 10 vs 12, ref was an absolute disgrace and should be sacked for gross misconduct
Our poor 10 men United played against a 12 men side
First class dive
There were 2 - both were 1st class...which one are you talking about? 😆
That was not a penalty. It was clearly a diving.
The ref was fucking joke. You would expect to see that in corrupted leagues but we have them here home grown. It was disgraceful
Justice was done, he missed a sitter moments later, arsenal missed the pen, they lost the game, the shitty cheats couldn't get away with it
I have never seen a useless referee like this one. ... He has to be punished .how can you give a fake red card, fake penalty,fake yellow cards to one team. Look at bruno's foul and it went unnoticed and even give a fouled player a card
yo im a utd fan but the tackles by dalot were stupid considering the biasness they already faced in the first half
Effing cheats... dirty officials
The good guys won this one!
10 vs 12...but arsenal forgot we have an angel with us..to help Bayindir 😂
Ref should have worn a arsenal shirt...simple
Come on guys, that's what Havertz is capable of doing other than scoring goals.
i don't think it left anyone divided. That was a suspiciously wrong decision of that ref. Amongst many other one sided questionable decisions. I'd even go that far to investigate this ref, so embarrassingly awful it was.
Love the passion
What an embarassment! Arsenals loss was so humiliating. Not only against 10 men, not only with the referee being so so biased, they still couldn’t win. Absolutely embarrassing having that little rat Havertz on their team. Their season is over!😂😂😂
It's rather poetic that Havertz was the one who missed HIS penalty. I'm sure Harry would have been laughing his socks off.
We need a investigation into the referee this doesn't look good for a premier league ref😢
If the tackle had happened in the Arsenal box it would never have been given.
Yupp cheating
it's ARSEnal, not surprised MF 😂
I'm a Chelsea fan the ref was a disgrace.
Well done MU for beating Arsenal.
Ruben Amorim let out the mad dogs on Arsenal loved it.
What is the point of VAR. not there for the 3rd round but due to appear for the 5th? Wtf
arsenol played well only to make United's players sent off..they did it..but justice has come...12 men arsenol lost against 10 men ManUtd...eat that karma SOAB
The ref needs investigating
Havertz obvious dive was so grotesque, it deserved to be recognized by yellow card at the minimum
That’s a stupid question… a fair referee would have booked Havertz for simulation. I’m interested to see if any investigations would follow on the integrity or competency of this referee.
Bro from that angle it looked like Maguire was trying to catch havertz from diving 😂
Havertz got knocked over by a breath of fresh air, Maguire NEVER TOUCHED THE CHEAT HAVERTZ. Justice was done as we Man Utd won on penalties, Arsenal same as Man City and Liverpool just a bunch of cheats.
Is that the same 'breath of fresh air' that has been suddenly knocking Bruno Fernandes off his feet for several years now???
@@barryh.4220 no. That's just all the breath Bruno holds in while preparing to whine for 10 minutes, it can be disorienting.
After a very long time i am seeing a classic Manu vs Ars match….reminds me of the old Roy Keane vs Patrick Veira Days
Only two points worthy of note, 1. Havertz is as big a cheat as Kyle Walker 2. The Referee’s not fit to take charge of a conker match
Refs are terrible in England but some teams like luverpool appear to get an awful lot of favourable decisions helping them.
The refereeing this season is atrocious!!!!!
Go make a big platform for yourself mr M . Prove your doughters and go forward good luck and smash em mate.
Thats why Arsenal need a good striker
just arsenal need pray
The referee was disgrace to this game I think only one Arsenal player booked and numerous calls went against utd.
Referee was a disgrace
I’m a pool fan. Never was a penalty and Maguire was right.
Havertz took a shot...it's not like it's his first !! Heck, his "acting" is only rivaled by Bereton-Diaz. Odegaard was SHUT DOWN in amazing fashion, and all's right in the world. Why dwell on it ?
you know now how VAR balance the REFEREE error decision
Shocking comments about it not being a penalty Maguire clearly pushes him with his hand off the ball. How can that not be a penalty. Hypothetically if this happened outside the box and Maguire was the last defender and he did this he would have seen red. A push is a push.
Man U fan !! I haven't watched every team, but we have seen so many players cheat over the years, whether in the box or not. Face it, it will never stop !
If i was Arteta i'd buy a new goalkeeper and centre forward .... the one's he's currently got are nothing short of useless!
Pathetic to award a penalty
Bad refereeing still spoilng our football
Havertz couldn't hit a barn door but could fall through one even if locked. Lol
The 12th man is meant to be the home crowd not the referee.
Same old Arsenal, always CHEATING!
Imagine That boy wants to fight Maguire.. haha no survival instincts whatsoever
Havertz is in the German olympic diving squad
As a punfit said.. havertz was MU's best player.... what a clown show for ARSEnal
Arsenal couldnt even win with 12 men on the pitch ref was in there back pocket
I nominate Havertz and Walker for joint Oscar
That's not just diving... it's scuba diving.
😂😅😂🎉😂😅
no matter who does that in the penalty area, lost rspect to the football fan. Hate those players.
That dive should get him a post game 5 match ban th8s should be done on all games if you dive in game and gain reward 3-10 mach ban depending on severity
But this is how I remember Havertz from the Buli. A cheater!
Ref should be imvestigated. Better yet fired. It was 12 vs 10 men in this match. But we still won. Never in million years that was a penalty. Yet bruno got yellow carded for showing his anger and disssapointment when jesus was clearly way behind him and tumbled against his legs and made him fall. Nothing was given. That was very suspicious.
he got the card for dissent bruh!
We can't investigate every referee for every bad decision. We'll run out of referee's. Before var, human error like this always happened, we are just not used to this anymore.
Havertz dived ! Give him a oscar for best dooshbag actor
What a dive
That’s rich coming from McGuire.
Only in England is possible to have no VAR at such level.
It's the FA cup and some of the smaller clubs,non league etc, do not have the facilities
@@jeremymerrifield7244 yes. spurs were literally against Tamworth. They could never get var.
unrespect for refree 👎
All the game was against man utd but justice prove we're right
Odegaard's penalty miss changed everything🤷
Might not have been a penalty, but Ugarte and Garnacho should have been sent off.
Unlike the Arsenal managed by Wenger,
This Arteta team are full of arrogance.
That F Havertz dived everytime.
Just like Jesus. Also Jorginho,
Partey when play right back dived too
Clearly diving from VAR, 100%
What a Divers Havertz 😂, trash of Blue London , no wonder why he's dumped! Looosers Odegard!
we call him Kai the Princess for this reason 😂😂
The game has become a joke. I watched a player recently diving into the box trying to cheat a penalty. TG he failed.
Saw two youngsters last year playing at being footballers in the house. As soon as the rubbed shoulders passing each other straight onto the ground looking for a penalty. Jesus we used to try to imitate Pele or Bobby Charlton. real players.
A dive is dive Kai Havertz face says it all.anyway we won at end even with 10 men