It's not Gary Francis Poste. there's too much evidence against Allen to believe it. Also, FORMER police officers identified the killer with no more evidence or authentication to prove it.
Genericblogger Lol i remember when all that shit went around. The ironic thing is that ted cruz's father matches the description of the zodiac killer, and the timeframe and location matches when he moved from cuba as well as the route that was taken. He was also a known hunter. Now I don't think he actually did it but it is interesting how many parameters fit. p.s. Slaves in the afterlife is actually refered to in the bible (i cannot remember off the top of my head which one but i will edit and post when i find it) which is weird because of his evangelist fanaticism
Maybe the killer phoned in himself as a false witness claiming the perp. was a black man so he would get the cops off his tail? He was fat as a cop fed on doughnuts and everyone knows they hate running.
that black male was samual little and a white man named kane We have a very different story about the zodiac the real one no one knows about till now one we can prove happened not this Hollywood version of pure crap. see the proof ruclips.net/channel/UCodTCuBZG2BYkWzjP9-43Ww?view_as=subscriber
The craziest thing about this is that they continuously say “if he was still alive”, but according to the new identification the Zodiac was alive at the time of this video
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 Arthur Leigh Allen's name can also be found in the letters and ciphers, it's not unique to him. And you can make an anagram of ANYTHING without it being the intended message of the writer. you can also find a direct quote from the unabombers manifesto if you arrange the letters that way (which was the casebreakers method) but that doesn't mean that was intentional
cops: uhh we've been hearing about this guy saying stuff like "im gonna hunt humans with a gun and knife" and he also called himself the zodiac judge: wE d0nT hAv3 eNoUgH eV1d3nc3
Words like that are not evidence. Addmiting it - could be. "I've killed all these people". I can say "I'm gonna kill my boss, cuz he's an asshole" but that doesn't mean that in the end I could (or would) do it.
witness who was in the car with him...hes the killer that man....police: we dont have enough evidence....okay?...it was clearly kane and arthur...they were in cahoots
When the Zodiac had already said all this previously (providing a template for the fantasist for copying at least his mannerisms, if not always his murderous deeds.) The Zodiac watch was then quite common and worn by a considerable part of the male watch market in an era when almost every adult male 'breadwinner' would wear a watch. Look at how many people have claimed to be various notorious criminals. Mentally ill people sometimes make such claims if fantasies of power/ megalomania take over them. ALA was definitely mentally unwell at times and clearly also a very nasty piece of work on occasion. Lots of people unfortunately like that in nearly every small town near you. Doesn't make them all mass murderers. Zodiac's misspellings and creepy messages were more about cryptography and codes than mental unwellness. He may have been that as well - but it would be a high functioning unwellness to code so effectively. They aren't 'random' like they appear. The sloppy look of the letters is entirely intentional.
I live in England. When there is a bunch of rough looking guys I just think what if they do stuff to me u know. When I visit America, I think does she have a gun? What about him? It's really sad
I'm right behind you on that one. Given that Kane had suffered brain damage and that it influenced his behavior so possibly decided to follow in the footsteps of Allen. Handwriting is also easy to alter so that it looks different to the letters sent to the press.
There could be a clue in the constant misspelling of paradice. Look up the meanings of the root word para and its origin. Along with the history of dice or where dice are commonly used. Perhaps the man wasn't from San Francisco but from Reno? Just one possibility. Also if they decoded the cipher, why didn't they try to decipher his name as well? According to this video they never figured that out either.
For everyone wondering this case is still open and the FBI has rejected Gary being the zodiac which means Gary the snail is not the killer so it remains unsolved
Buzzfeed should have a channel that telling murder cases both solved and unsolved, including mysterious stories like ghosts, conspiracy theories and others. Kind of a documentary but showing it in Buzzfeed style. It would be really interesting because not only it's entertaining but also It raises awareness for young people to learn from what happened in the past. For example, I learn a Murder of Kitty Genovese case that sparked a bystander effect from Psy class, I found it's really hard to read and gather information for a visual learner like me. It would be so cool that I have fun and learn from Buzzfeed at the same time.
That’s become a bit more of a possibility in certain circles. I wouldn’t dismiss that as it is plausible it was copycat crimes & the taunts could’ve come from whoever did which set of murders
My theory is: there at least 2 peoples working together and 1 or more copycat. The writer could be the wife, a friend, or even a twin. The killer he's the one who like to kill and the wife/ twin brother is the writer.
@anonymous The killer's description didn't dramatically change, all described him as white, with brown hair, around his mid 20s-30s, and was stocky around 5'8"-5'10"
and plus he was in the hospital most of the time cause he couldn't swallow, had broken bones issues, and had serious heart problems and i believe he had brain damage.
For people who's wondering what happened to the comments: The older videos has been moved from Buzzfeed Multiplayer to Buzzfeed Unsolved Network, hence the comments reset.
this case especially always makes me wonder WHY we still bother with hand writing analysis. If I was a criminal I wouldn't be writing anything with my "original" handwriting. I'm sure it's still possible to find similarities, but as someone who generally really like my handwriting, I'd do everything I could to make it look like someone else wrote it. Maybe that's just me, though??
I think that every time I see a show where they say "but the handwriting didn't match" if you practiced even a little bit for a day or two you could develop a whole new way of writing
There are clear signs when someone has deliberately altered their handwriting, so although at best you could prevent a match, fortunately for the police, an expert would just rule it as inconclusive, which means you wouldn’t be able to say your innocent just because it’s not a match
I personally have 2 handwritings; one is slanted and the other is generic. I can switch between them super easily & I've had them since I was in middle school. You can even say I have 2 more because my cursive is REALLY bad, spaced out and loopy. And then there's always my left hand as well.
so you’re telling me that my mom catches me for things that i do with little to no evidence yet a police officer literally SEES him and he’s not in jail. he doesn’t exist
At some point in the Zodiac movie, when Robert Graysmith visits the Vaughn guy from the theater, he thinks there is someone else in the house and when he runs out of the house, scared to death he mumbles "there are two killers" or something around those lines, but the movie doesn't really pick up on that theory again. What I think is that maybe Graysmith was so freaked out that he probably thought that he was just imagining things, but maybe Vaughn and Allen were working together. I want to read Graysmith's books because maybe there he mentions looking for a connection between Allen and Vaughn and not finding one, or maybe it doesn't which means no one ever did look for a connection. I also want to know how real was the movie, because in the movie Darlene's sister, Linda, says that Darlene was scared of this man called Leigh, one of the many "admirers" her sister had, despite being married, but here in the buzzfeed video they mention that Darlene's sister said that Kane was the man who followed Darlene around in the weeks leading to her murder. Watching this video has confused me tbh, because it presents information that wasn't on the movie, or that contradicts the movie (ex. what Linda said). Or, you know, maybe it was one guy but with the multiple personality disorder, I picked that up from the movie, the guy being Allen, it would explain why the writing doesn't match, maybe when the "Zodiac" personality kicked in his handwriting changed (which, if I remember correctly, Graysmith mentions is a possibility). There are so many theories and honestly they all seem really possible to me.
@@ratittle3550 so an actual sex offender, who was jailed around the time that the letters to the press stopped isn't the killer? come on it's obviously Allen.
I think the series works so well because of Ryan and Shane as a duo. They're hilarious together. I also liked Brent, though. No idea why he was replaced by Shane.
@@safiyya_4 supposedly, but that dude wasn't proven through dna to actually be him. But the person comment insinuates he been caught when he never has... basically your comment to me is pointless.
@@OwlCapone8630 that’s what im saying, that dude passed away. I’m sure the zodiac killer is already old and already passed away. I know that they think that Gary Poste is the Zodiac Killer because of the scars on his forehead. They can't get the old DNA sample because that case happened a long time ago. The investigator needs permission from Poste’s family and relatives to get his DNA samples. The only evidence they have is his handwritten and face sketch.
Do u know what alleged means? Bruh it’s not even confirmed and yet the whole world thinks it’s solved because they don’t know what alleged means. The FBI HAS REJECTED HIM AS THE ZODIAC
Alex H I *will be pissed if my son thinks I’m a cereal killer. Or I’d be pissed if my son thought I was a cereal killer The way you said it implied you are a cereal killer, and you’d be upset if your son found out.
“Ok, say it with me now. _Slowly._ White...” Police: “White.” “Male.” Police: “Male.” “Good! Now who’s the criminal?” Police: *_”AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE!”_* “No.”
For god sake, the kids called literally seconds after the Zodiac shot stine in the neck and then saw him cleaning the cab from the window. They were young kids and scared and called it in. The dispatcher then put it out over the scanners that it was a black male but it was corrected minutes later. It was a miscommunication.
It was a English teacher…reference to short stories, ciphers, hating teenagers, middle aged with glasses (sketch even looks like a teacher), access to school busses
@kevin buggage it's direct racism, from some individuals..in this scenario it's not systemic becuase it didn't happen due to it being built into the system.
@kevin buggage no need to get overwhelmed. In this scenario it was not systemic as the decision was made by some individuals, so it's just direct racism... There was of course racism rooted in the justice system itself but here, the consequence was not made due to cycles of poverty or flawed systems. Saying that this is systemic is actually downplaying what happened so I'm not sure why your insisting on that.
@kevin buggage I'm sorry but I'm not sure if your trying to insiuate that becuase of some reason I'm not as able to understand racism? All of what you said is true. BUT REMEBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMENT. not the justice system not the events pre or post murder. I was simply talking about the comment and correcting them. The fact is that in the scenario that this commenter presented it is not systemic.
From what I have seen fbi profilers said the zodiac killer is one person. Obviously it’s profiling so there is the possibility that they are wrong but when it comes to multiple people copy cating off of each other law enforcement are generally able to figure it out. Not to mention in most cases the police don’t release all of the evidence they found so they can distinguish the original perpetrator from the copy cats
Yeah, it could be multiple killers and one master mind. Hence the handwriting not matching any of the suspects but having them as almost concrete killers
Could be, I mean. If it was multiple people, it could easily explain the letters doe. One could've been writing the letters while other was doing the killings
People get that way sometimes. They'll never be one reason because nobody is the same and there are no absolutes in the human mind. There are more reasons to kill then there are people on earth. That aside, there are some things that are common. Many were abused or overprotected as children, the majority of this change into killing for pleasure happens in childhood you see. That being said some are just born that way and people like the Zodiac Killer will always exist.
Do you know how to spell have?😯 you just spelled HALF some people are so stupid in comment sections its HILARIOUS and I have to correct them😂😂😂,And I'm just a ten year old 🙆 you must be enberresed 😂
Teen girl: he was white about 5’8 had brownish red hair
Cop: *sees someone that fits the description* yall see something?
You Right
The operator somehow heard black man instead of white man.
@@alexalevon4885 he was probably racist white and black don't sound the same
Yung Sriracha probably but I don’t know.
Police: The killer is definitely not white with brown hair the killer must be a bald Africa American male
The zodiac killer: *is white*
Police officer: Y E S N T
Bruh
B r u h
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Like seriously they had the guy RIGHT THERE but nah instead they decided to go chase some random ass black guy...
Why do you got to bring race into this
This story is BS
Before Shane
Charles Scalies Ona art where da hełł iks Shane 🤝🤦🏿♂️
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@@evelynillarionova8023 how u do that!??!?!?!!?!?!?!??!?!??!!?!??!?!
bish wat da faq an app called fonts
This guy is way funny. But love Shane...
The fact that they said he’d be a one star Yelper and HE LITERALLY GAVE A TED BUNDY MOVIE A ONE STAR BC TED WAS A BAD KILLER 😭
In his opinion lmao his review said it
Ted bundy had a higher kill count and was more brutal, I think Gary was just pressed
@@chrispyfriedchicken9648 nah Ted was overrated to him bc he got caught which the zodiac killer wasn’t
What are you talking about?!
The FBI has said the case remains open. This guy, Gary is only a suspect. It’s all alleged
the scariest thing about this is that shane isn’t here
katelin bailey exactly
katelin bailey yessssss he need to come back 😭❤️
I just discovered this show ??so is Shane gone or what
Shane Gallagher they left BuzzFeed and they made a new channel, so
i don’t think they will re-do it.
Mads Davidsen they left buzzfeed but they will still be the hosts of unsolved
_shane is still on the process of finding a physical human form._
Oh god i hope shane doesnt take mine
Or bleeding in churches..,
Lol Shane can take mine any day.....Jesus hope my hubby don’t see this 🤫
This is Brent my dude (the OG everyone should have Known) 😄😂
@@Jules2O1O he came, he saw and disappeared into the darkness 😂
witness: yeah he was a white male, about 5'8 and he had like reddish hair.
police: *yep, sounds black to me*
I just fucking died🤣🤣
Is this "the murder of lynette white"????? (They charged three black men when a singular white man committed the crime.)
R u 1 that I am thinking about ,,,,,, give me ur adress ,,
😂😂
Ameilya Harris 666 likes
imagine spending 60 years trying to find someone’s name and it’s literally gary
It’s not confirmed. It’s all alleged. The fbi hasn’t confirmed who the zodiac killer it nor has the police. The case remains unsolved.
Gary Ridgeway was the green river killer too
@@dandougie363 i think they are referring to Gary Francis Poste who wasn't discussed in the video
It's not Gary Francis Poste. there's too much evidence against Allen to believe it. Also, FORMER police officers identified the killer with no more evidence or authentication to prove it.
Gary Isn’t the zodiac
im actually obsessed with this series but im also so freaked out after watching each one...
nonetheless i need more of these videos, they honestly feel like a tv show
ikr!?
Sameee
YESSSS
same here omg 😂
Imagine the zodiac killer watching this and hes like “hmmMm interesting”
😱
кυу кυу ctfu
That depends on Cruz's schedule.
AlashiaTuol lol. He wasn’t bro
You have no idea
i know this is a serious matter but their yellow and blue conversation really cracks me up
It's a great comic relief
If Gary Poste was actually the Zodiac Killer, there's a real chance that he watched this video as he only died in 2018??
Do you think he watched all the RUclips videos about him?
@@sarahghanem4386 well maybe 🤷♀️
Gary Burghoff, not Gary Poste.
@@maxmulsanne7054 why Burghoof
It’s not him the FBI HAS REJECTED THIS GUY AS THE ZODIAC
"Ted Cruz wasn't even alive yet." That's exactly what a serial killer would say to throw people off the trail.
genericblogger Ted Cruz is too busy looking at porn on Twitter to kill
im
na g 😂😂
Genericblogger Lol i remember when all that shit went around. The ironic thing is that ted cruz's father matches the description of the zodiac killer, and the timeframe and location matches when he moved from cuba as well as the route that was taken. He was also a known hunter. Now I don't think he actually did it but it is interesting how many parameters fit.
p.s. Slaves in the afterlife is actually refered to in the bible (i cannot remember off the top of my head which one but i will edit and post when i find it) which is weird because of his evangelist fanaticism
Could the zodiac killers might be more than one serial but under one name????
The fact that the Zodiac said the cops pulled a goof is hilarious.
It's the fault of the dispatcher.
😂😂😂
a poster just fell in my room while I was watching this. I'm sleeping with the lights on tonight, folks
katinstroodle my light fell. So imma sleep in the living room with every damn light I can find
katinstroodle yep I got my lights on right now
yep of course they blamed the black guy
katinstroodle eppp I would probably not sleep at all
katinstroodle literally just happened to me around the 7min mark and i don't know if i should continue now or not😭
"he'd be a 1 star yelp reviewer" THEY LITERALLY WERE RIGHT BAHAHHA
That was a photoshopped meme 😂
Anyway, Gary isn’t the zodiac
Plot twist : Shane isn’t here because he’s the zodiac
He did say that didn't He.
A Random Introvert huh 🤔
Sarah Wittwer he could’ve worn a fat suit or somethin. Shane thinks ahead.
666 now lol no one like it
Strawberry Stupidity what a legend
I love how both Shane and Brent both aren't scared but then theres Ryan just freaking out
My Life As Hannah Ryan is me
My Life As Hannah where’s Shane?
Sarcastic Bleach i believe hes the camera man
Girl: he looks really pale and he is clearly white and 6”7
Police: It’s a black midget, linch him!
Maybe the killer phoned in himself as a false witness claiming the perp. was a black man so he would get the cops off his tail? He was fat as a cop fed on doughnuts and everyone knows they hate running.
600th liker
“Sighs” wow great job fucking San Francisco police
Racism at its finest.
Pehty Pehtals use your brain 🧠
You know it's bad when even the serial killer makes fun of you for blatant racism on "pulled a goof"
its weird to think that the zodiac killer might still be alive out there having a normal life now
Logan Ainsworth it’s weird to think that he would probably be living within a 15-20 mile radius of me, married with kids....
why would you do this HOLY fIcJsgs
I dont think. I think he might be died
Your profile picture is scarier than this whole video
For all we know you might be him
Question, why doesn't this serie have its own channel? Thousands of us love it and some even suggested the channel to be called "BuzzfeedBlack".
Yes
You have a cool nane
Liam oconnell Thank you
+Liam oconnell I have a shrek profile pic too!
Also I totally agree
For the longest time I thought Shane was ALWAYS with Ryan, always and forever.
I guess the Great Demon hasn’t been summoned yet...
SAME , when i saw this guy next to ryan i was like “who the hell is this guy?” 🤣.
Yeah!
sami rose it’s 🅱️rent
shane 😭😭😭😭
Who the hell is this knock off version . WHERE IS SHANE!!!
“do you think he’d be a frequent yelper if he was still alive?” i bet he laughed watching this knowing what we do now
He was😂
He left a review on a Ted Bundy Bio pic and left a one star review hahahaa.
@@genethetimemachine5514 ye😂
@@genethetimemachine5514 He did not, that was a photoshopped meme
It’s not Gary, it still hasn’t been solved
Thank you so much for putting the dialogue sections in. They're super funny and take my mind off the scary stuff.
EasyPeasyPiano ikr it adds a nice bit of humor to the serious stuff XD
EasyPeasyPiano Ikr? It really helps
My brain: don’t do it
Don’t do it
Don’t do it
Don’t do it
Don’t do it
Me: *clicks on this video right before I go to bed*
Not a people Person same
This won’t help my mild paranoia
Not a people Person OMG SAME
Damn, same. Why do we do this to ourselves
ha ha ... ha... i'm scared
Witness: "He was white."
Cop: "Well yes... But actually no."
Jein
@@lkuz1347 *racism plays tricks on your eyes
@@lkuz1347 it was nighttime
@@pianothrone7965 it's still incredibly easy to tell races apart in darkness.
@@exdianas true
"you think he would be a frequent yelper today?" YES HE WAS LMAO
Witness: he was a white male about 5’8 with reddish hair
Police: “sees a black male” yeah seems about right
that black male was samual little and a white man named kane We have a very different story about the zodiac the real one no one knows about till now one we can prove happened not this Hollywood version of pure crap. see the proof ruclips.net/channel/UCodTCuBZG2BYkWzjP9-43Ww?view_as=subscriber
The dispatcher said He was black.
What the police officer heard: he was a black male about black'black with blackish black
Plot Twist: All 3 are the killer. They just had different jobs and played rock, paper, scissors do decide who got to kill someone.
WHUT
*_Nani???!_*
the zoidac killers lookin at ur comment like: "how tf did she figured it out"
@@popplanet2782 they/them pronouns, please.
If a woman was able to run away from a killer and was able to identify a guy who he was a suspect. Man I would follow him and never left him alone.
I'm so glad they have those little dialogue because I'd be shitting myself without it
SAME
Luis Garcia That's why I watch these series
Luis Garcia me too
Same here! I'm also glad comments exist too!
Is this Liverpool's Luis Garcia or someone else?
Imagine watching The Exorcist at the theatre and being completely scared then realising being seated next to the zodiac.
Ikr!?
I'm so glad Shane came into Ryan's life.
Veronika Sparks me to
Brent’s pretty awesome but I’m so happy we have Shane now :)
same Brent be kinda dull 💀
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Scarlett Murphy no
We just not gonna talk about how Allen goes to jail for 3 years for child molestation but bank robbers go to jail for like 15 years
no
Right like ???
There are different types and degrre of molestation
@@meltedice-cream6499 still more lasting damage than a burglary
@@disaster_coffee4544 so tru
The craziest thing about this is that they continuously say “if he was still alive”, but according to the new identification the Zodiac was alive at the time of this video
kinda doubt this new suspect was him though. the only evidence they have is that he looks like the composite sketch.
Glad to see I’m not to only one to look at this video after the news broke.
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 the fbi has said the case remains open despite recent developments
wait can u give me the link to where u got your information
@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 Arthur Leigh Allen's name can also be found in the letters and ciphers, it's not unique to him. And you can make an anagram of ANYTHING without it being the intended message of the writer. you can also find a direct quote from the unabombers manifesto if you arrange the letters that way (which was the casebreakers method) but that doesn't mean that was intentional
I love how many people rushed to this video after they allegedly found the Killer, you all are amazing
It’s not confirmed. It’s all alleged. The fbi hasn’t confirmed who the zodiac killer it nor has the police. The case remains unsolved.
@@jaysmith2601 that's why I said "allegedly" instead of saying it was confirmed :)
@@maddy7101 I know. I was writing this comment to someone else who said “it’s solved now!” Mistakes happen. Thanks for letting me know. 😅
Donald gene harden waa tgge zodiac the man hu aolvet solvet tgr chiper
cops: uhh we've been hearing about this guy saying stuff like "im gonna hunt humans with a gun and knife" and he also called himself the zodiac
judge: wE d0nT hAv3 eNoUgH eV1d3nc3
im probably going to get no likes so im gonna like this comment myself
Words like that are not evidence. Addmiting it - could be. "I've killed all these people". I can say "I'm gonna kill my boss, cuz he's an asshole" but that doesn't mean that in the end I could (or would) do it.
witness who was in the car with him...hes the killer that man....police: we dont have enough evidence....okay?...it was clearly kane and arthur...they were in cahoots
@@razkable "In cahoots" 😂
When the Zodiac had already said all this previously (providing a template for the fantasist for copying at least his mannerisms, if not always his murderous deeds.)
The Zodiac watch was then quite common and worn by a considerable part of the male watch market in an era when almost every adult male 'breadwinner' would wear a watch.
Look at how many people have claimed to be various notorious criminals. Mentally ill people sometimes make such claims if fantasies of power/ megalomania take over them. ALA was definitely mentally unwell at times and clearly also a very nasty piece of work on occasion. Lots of people unfortunately like that in nearly every small town near you. Doesn't make them all mass murderers.
Zodiac's misspellings and creepy messages were more about cryptography and codes than mental unwellness. He may have been that as well - but it would be a high functioning unwellness to code so effectively. They aren't 'random' like they appear. The sloppy look of the letters is entirely intentional.
We lived near Vallejo around this time and I remember on Halloween my mom was carrying a hand gun "just in case". Those were scary times.
Ima Hobbit You have a *badass* mom
Yep 👍
I live in England. When there is a bunch of rough looking guys I just think what if they do stuff to me u know. When I visit America, I think does she have a gun? What about him? It's really sad
i wouldn’t have even gone out on halloween
we need a buzzfeed black with buzzfeed unsolved, spooky things, tour to haunted places and conspiracy theories. That would be worth seeing
yass now buzzfeed black now
Omg great idea! Please!!
Yes!!!
Yes! Tonnes of people on other vids really want this, but I think BuzzFeedDark would be a better title.
yesyesyes
When the suspect mistake was said, my mum was like "WHAT?! HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT BIG OF A MISTAKE?!" I just burst into confused laughter-
I agree with Brent’s theory that Allen is the original Zodiac, and that Kane eventually took over as either his accomplice or as a copycat.
@Jared Bloom yeah, they both have so much evidence stacked up on them that this is a very plausible theory
I'm right behind you on that one. Given that Kane had suffered brain damage and that it influenced his behavior so possibly decided to follow in the footsteps of Allen. Handwriting is also easy to alter so that it looks different to the letters sent to the press.
I agree
Yeah. I agree too
Kane had brain damadge and the zodiac in the last letter he spelt woman woeman
WE NEED MORE EPISODES OF UNSOLVED
1 hr n 22 min isn't enough
They should do Jack the Ripper
Hiba Alghol NO
+15 Corrales I don't think they would want to fly to the uk to just do this
+15 Corrales There's a documentary that basically solves the Jack the Ripper killings. Apparently, he was in America for a while too.
Ghoul boys need to revisit the case now that the code was deciphered.
was looking for this comment
There could be a clue in the constant misspelling of paradice. Look up the meanings of the root word para and its origin. Along with the history of dice or where dice are commonly used. Perhaps the man wasn't from San Francisco but from Reno? Just one possibility. Also if they decoded the cipher, why didn't they try to decipher his name as well? According to this video they never figured that out either.
@@mizomint4197 yeah maybe but the killer could also have just got the wrong spelling stuck in their head I know I’ve done it
@@mizomint4197 the spelling was already known
I was looking for this comment!! Holy cow I wish they do.
For everyone wondering this case is still open and the FBI has rejected Gary being the zodiac which means Gary the snail is not the killer so it remains unsolved
This is one my favourite series' on RUclips
(5 months later) "RUclips Red exclusive: Buzzfeed unsolved"
+Artyom Kirilov I have youtube red for free forever lol idgaf
+SicknessOG how?
Yas. Me Too.
same
Buzzfeed should have a channel that telling murder cases both solved and unsolved, including mysterious stories like ghosts, conspiracy theories and others. Kind of a documentary but showing it in Buzzfeed style. It would be really interesting because not only it's entertaining but also It raises awareness for young people to learn from what happened in the past. For example, I learn a Murder of Kitty Genovese case that sparked a bystander effect from Psy class, I found it's really hard to read and gather information for a visual learner like me. It would be so cool that I have fun and learn from Buzzfeed at the same time.
yep thats sound pretty cool ^^
yes
yaaaasssssss 👌👌👌
I would love that so much! I try to solve murder cases on my own all the time!
#BuzzFeedBlack
Has anyone notice how all the women died on the scene but the men survive after the scene then die later
Kane looks like Michael Scott from the office
Kane looks like Michael Scott from the office
Kane looks like Michael Scott from the office
Men are stronger xD
most likely a coincidence
There's like a good chance that Gary himself watched this documentary.
It’s not confirmed. It’s all alleged. The fbi hasn’t confirmed who the zodiac killer it nor has the police. The case remains unsolved.
@@jaysmith2601 "Theres a Chance" stfu now
He probably left a comment😂
Hes right tho. There is no confirmation he wad really the killer, and until we can be 100% sure, he is NOT the killer.
@@attilamert6973 but it's true that gary isn't related. The police just wanted a suspect to close the case probably but it's still open.
woman: he was white
cops: oh he's black
woman: white!
cops: Mexican?
Lmao
Woman: he white
Cop: so he’s black
Woman: White!
Cop: Mexican?
Woman:?????
Cop: ......?
Cop 2: so he’s black?
What are yall talking about
The cop was retarded
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SO, HE IS SOUTH AMERICAN?
Plot Twist : the zodiac is a group not a singular killer
I mean you have a point
That’s become a bit more of a possibility in certain circles. I wouldn’t dismiss that as it is plausible it was copycat crimes & the taunts could’ve come from whoever did which set of murders
My theory is: there at least 2 peoples working together and 1 or more copycat. The writer could be the wife, a friend, or even a twin. The killer he's the one who like to kill and the wife/ twin brother is the writer.
You have a point. There are 12 Zodiac signs so that's very likely.
@anonymous The killer's description didn't dramatically change, all described him as white, with brown hair, around his mid 20s-30s, and was stocky around 5'8"-5'10"
Is it bad I couldnt stop laughing? The two guy's just hating on the zodiac killer kept making me laugh so much.
Same
It's made me less chilling like
Exactly!
Those two were great
Uh no it's bad that you laughed at their cringey jokes
The fact that If the guy they found really is the zodiac, he was still alive when they filmed this 😳
that's wild
but he would be 80 so i don't think so
and plus he was in the hospital most of the time cause he couldn't swallow, had broken bones issues, and had serious heart problems and i believe he had brain damage.
If you're talking about Gary Francis Poste I highly doubt he was the zodiac
He died in 2020
Those teenagers were not "sitting" in the car, I'm pretty sure we know what they were doing.
You know, the usual. Watching a pretty view, making out, transmitting STDs...
+MrMCAlien lmfaooooo what 😭😭
Lol
just saying. 😂😂😂
They were watching Anime :D....
“Hi. I’m the zodiac killer!”
-Shane
The only valid theory
Some Lightwood Shane’s not even in this video lol
I think Shane was referencing this episode in a more recent episode :P
Katmuss Woodwinds definitely. Or he’s just taunting the PD because he actually is the zodiac killer 🤔
Shane isnt in the vid tho
For people who's wondering what happened to the comments: The older videos has been moved from Buzzfeed Multiplayer to Buzzfeed Unsolved Network, hence the comments reset.
I was gonna say 12m views and like 50 comments don’t add up
Do the views stay at the same number if videos move to different channels?
Ohhh I see
but the buzzfeed unsolved channel has been around for a while, or am i wrong?
Oooooooo
this case especially always makes me wonder WHY we still bother with hand writing analysis. If I was a criminal I wouldn't be writing anything with my "original" handwriting. I'm sure it's still possible to find similarities, but as someone who generally really like my handwriting, I'd do everything I could to make it look like someone else wrote it. Maybe that's just me, though??
I think that every time I see a show where they say "but the handwriting didn't match" if you practiced even a little bit for a day or two you could develop a whole new way of writing
There are clear signs when someone has deliberately altered their handwriting, so although at best you could prevent a match, fortunately for the police, an expert would just rule it as inconclusive, which means you wouldn’t be able to say your innocent just because it’s not a match
I personally have 2 handwritings; one is slanted and the other is generic. I can switch between them super easily & I've had them since I was in middle school. You can even say I have 2 more because my cursive is REALLY bad, spaced out and loopy. And then there's always my left hand as well.
Witness: “Yea he’s a white male”
Police: “Arrest that black man over there!”
It was a mistake between the dispatcher and cops
@@carteralexander3671 the words black and white do NOT sound alike what so ever
@@abboyaboya How does that have anything to do with carters point lol
Sums up America
@@abboyaboya they said he was wearing a black jacket. So dispatcher got mixed up.
so you’re telling me that my mom catches me for things that i do with little to no evidence yet a police officer literally SEES him and he’s not in jail. he doesn’t exist
Well the police was given a wrong description
is there a theory there were multiple zodiacs, like, not just copycats, but they were working together?
Dean Winchester that was what I was thinking. like kane and Arthur. or something like that.
yeah, but the first guy looked JUST like the drawing
and Zodiac mentioned talking to the police
what/who is kane and arthur
Carlos Hernandez did you watch the video?
At some point in the Zodiac movie, when Robert Graysmith visits the Vaughn guy from the theater, he thinks there is someone else in the house and when he runs out of the house, scared to death he mumbles "there are two killers" or something around those lines, but the movie doesn't really pick up on that theory again. What I think is that maybe Graysmith was so freaked out that he probably thought that he was just imagining things, but maybe Vaughn and Allen were working together. I want to read Graysmith's books because maybe there he mentions looking for a connection between Allen and Vaughn and not finding one, or maybe it doesn't which means no one ever did look for a connection. I also want to know how real was the movie, because in the movie Darlene's sister, Linda, says that Darlene was scared of this man called Leigh, one of the many "admirers" her sister had, despite being married, but here in the buzzfeed video they mention that Darlene's sister said that Kane was the man who followed Darlene around in the weeks leading to her murder. Watching this video has confused me tbh, because it presents information that wasn't on the movie, or that contradicts the movie (ex. what Linda said).
Or, you know, maybe it was one guy but with the multiple personality disorder, I picked that up from the movie, the guy being Allen, it would explain why the writing doesn't match, maybe when the "Zodiac" personality kicked in his handwriting changed (which, if I remember correctly, Graysmith mentions is a possibility).
There are so many theories and honestly they all seem really possible to me.
Zodiac was identified today and I’m coming back to rewatch if he was on their list or not lol
Omg It’s not confirmed. It’s all alleged. The fbi hasn’t confirmed who the zodiac killer it nor has the police. The case remains unsolved.
he is not the one
i love how scared ryan was lmfao
ryan was me whenever I watch buzzfeed unsolved
+Abigail Baxter YASSSSS
Me too. Laughed so hard.
what if the zodiac killer was a group
The Flash that's what I think
“The cops pulled a goof”
Lol
Dispatcher.
It was so easy to get away with murder back then
"Oh you murder someone well do ya have twenty bucks?"
They pulled more than a goof
Police: doesn’t test DNA
Shane: *WHAT WAS THE REASON? WHAT WAS THE REASON? WHAT WAS THE REASON?!*
@I didnt kill Kenny sure
@I didnt kill Kenny you know the zodiac murders stopped in the last 2000’s right?
It was the 60's and the 70's so I don't think so there were DNA and stuff
DNA testing wasn’t used until the mid 80s
@@nobunaga8900 so? We still got a killer on the loose
The fact that he was literally alive when this video was made
You don’t know that
@@theytrynabecray lol yeah his name was Gary Francis he literally died in 2018
@@ratittle3550 not confirmed just alleged. Gary is as good as a suspect as Allen.
@@ratittle3550 so an actual sex offender, who was jailed around the time that the letters to the press stopped isn't the killer? come on it's obviously Allen.
I feel like Ryan is the main part of the series and Shane is just there so that Ryan doesn't die because of ghost encounters
I think the series works so well because of Ryan and Shane as a duo. They're hilarious together. I also liked Brent, though. No idea why he was replaced by Shane.
Ramroum Oss I prefer Shane to Brent: Shane's funnier with his skepticism and douchey jokes
with ryan being scared of most things and shane is kinda like omg stop being a wimp. i like the contrast.com
Brent is incomparable to Shane. Shane and Ryan have a much better realtionship
+Samson Rox true
I wonder how Ted Cruz felt when he woke up one morning and was informed that the internet now think he's the zodiac killer
Lol
He is though.
+Julie Tuggle like are u joking
I would never joke about something so serious.
+Julie Tuggle All jokes are based off of really inappropriate things .
glad to see everyone is coming back to this since the zodiac’s been IDed
girl when I tell you I RAN here
Lol
we all had the same idea huh
@@jaquelineraya1983 HOLY 27 SECONDS AGO
It's not explicitly
What’s funny is that the zodiac killer most likely watched this video lol
yeah it’s so werid that he was alive
@@mimi-nm1md bro it’s not confirmed
Best series on Buzzfeed
Ikr
+Charlie T. How did I find you
AshiColor Tv OMFG HELLO!
ikr
this is like the only good series on buzzfeed to be honest
Famous last words. "It's just the wind!"
Arctic Wolf lol
the killer is me tryna hit that word count
You must of killed that essay
Who’s here after they caught the zodiac killer ?
Ummm he was never caught
@@OwlCapone8630 dude passed away
@@safiyya_4 supposedly, but that dude wasn't proven through dna to actually be him. But the person comment insinuates he been caught when he never has... basically your comment to me is pointless.
@@OwlCapone8630 that’s what im saying, that dude passed away. I’m sure the zodiac killer is already old and already passed away. I know that they think that Gary Poste is the Zodiac Killer because of the scars on his forehead. They can't get the old DNA sample because that case happened a long time ago. The investigator needs permission from Poste’s family and relatives to get his DNA samples. The only evidence they have is his handwritten and face sketch.
Do u know what alleged means? Bruh it’s not even confirmed and yet the whole world thinks it’s solved because they don’t know what alleged means. The FBI HAS REJECTED HIM AS THE ZODIAC
Description: white , red hair
Cops: sounds black to me
Everyone :👁👄👁
*logic?*
😂😂😂
@@humairalsha *yes*
Bruhh
Madison Mcmurphy Look at the description then look At Kaczynski.
The zodiac killer spelling "comedy" wrong is the real crime
also, who the fuck spells woman 'woeman'
and 'woemen' instead of women lol
supimdylan memes and stuff the real crime is making people lick his stamps and when he does cant. They say what he looked like
dylan and it’s not funny!
Eh? Get it?
Bunbu11 Schliechs Corny, but Ill accept it
"2 COPS PULLED A GOOF" THE ZODIAC REALLY WROTE THAT?! 😂😂😂😂
Ta better jazz it was still the best
“Apparently that’s common knowledge in crazy town” is such a good quote lmao
I'd be so pissed if my son thinks im a serial killer.
Alex H I *will be pissed if my son thinks I’m a cereal killer.
Or
I’d be pissed if my son thought I was a cereal killer
The way you said it implied you are a cereal killer, and you’d be upset if your son found out.
Molly Bennett "cereal killer" lmao
Molly Bennett nah the way he said it was fine bruh
don't kill people then
Alex H
“Ok, say it with me now. _Slowly._ White...”
Police: “White.”
“Male.”
Police: “Male.”
“Good! Now who’s the criminal?”
Police: *_”AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE!”_*
“No.”
I hate when that happens
Change police to dispatcher
Jomy Draws racism obviously, America is fucked.
Carrie Hew maybe, maybe not.
For god sake, the kids called literally seconds after the Zodiac shot stine in the neck and then saw him cleaning the cab from the window. They were young kids and scared and called it in. The dispatcher then put it out over the scanners that it was a black male but it was corrected minutes later. It was a miscommunication.
Finally a documentary about Ted Cruz I can actually watch
Lol
He wasnt born till 1970, If he was the killer it would have been a year before he was brn.
god why do people care so much about jokes
The zodiac killer isn't Ted Cruz, zodiac killer actually got things done
lol
It was a English teacher…reference to short stories, ciphers, hating teenagers, middle aged with glasses (sketch even looks like a teacher), access to school busses
Honestly I thought that the zodiac killer was like someone who killed people by there zodiac signs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh yeah thats good for a movie
Give ur self a hihg five
There was one dude who did that, but not Zodiac
@@jaynenunya6070 oooooh, who? I wanna know and read about it
@@neuron_star I forget but let me Google and get back to you
@@neuron_star lol its the "new york zodiac" turns out
i love learning about ted cruz
haha joke of the day. the zodiac killer was on jimmy Fallon show
damn lol
WHY AM I WATCHING THIS AT NIGHT I WANT TO STOP BUT I CANT. AT LEAST THE PARTS WHERE THEY STOP AND TALK OFF TOPIC MAKES IT KIND IF BETTER
Same!! Lol
it always eases the videos haha
Same omg same
thats why this is.perfect
Glad to see we all came back after Gary got called out.
So since he died in 2018, there’s a chance he saw this.
It’s not confirmed. It’s all alleged. The fbi hasn’t confirmed who the zodiac killer is nor has the police. The case remains unsolved.
the copycat part they were talking about reminded me of 'deathnote' in a way
Omf same
Yeah
sameeeee
i love L ahhhh
SAME OMG
Witness: "he's 5'8 white male."
Police: "ITS HIM! Arrest that black dude."
Everyone: 😑😑😑😑
@@alyssa3046 that's not systemic...
@kevin buggage it's direct racism, from some individuals..in this scenario it's not systemic becuase it didn't happen due to it being built into the system.
@kevin buggage I was just correcting the term, systemic almost undermines it.
@kevin buggage no need to get overwhelmed.
In this scenario it was not systemic as the decision was made by some individuals, so it's just direct racism...
There was of course racism rooted in the justice system itself but here, the consequence was not made due to cycles of poverty or flawed systems.
Saying that this is systemic is actually downplaying what happened so I'm not sure why your insisting on that.
@kevin buggage I'm sorry but I'm not sure if your trying to insiuate that becuase of some reason I'm not as able to understand racism?
All of what you said is true.
BUT REMEBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMENT.
not the justice system not the events pre or post murder. I was simply talking about the comment and correcting them.
The fact is that in the scenario that this commenter presented it is not systemic.
What if there's not one Zodiac killer, but the zodiac killer is actually different people?
From what I have seen fbi profilers said the zodiac killer is one person. Obviously it’s profiling so there is the possibility that they are wrong but when it comes to multiple people copy cating off of each other law enforcement are generally able to figure it out. Not to mention in most cases the police don’t release all of the evidence they found so they can distinguish the original perpetrator from the copy cats
@@igneouspuppy1734 I agree. Another point you didn't mention is that there would be a lot of inconsistencies between the murders.
Yeah, it could be multiple killers and one master mind. Hence the handwriting not matching any of the suspects but having them as almost concrete killers
Ted Cruz.
Could be, I mean. If it was multiple people, it could easily explain the letters doe. One could've been writing the letters while other was doing the killings
I’m just here trying to see if poste was mentioned on here lmao
it surprised me how someone can find so much joy in taking someone life
Rip all the people we lost from the sick people who kill
People get that way sometimes. They'll never be one reason because nobody is the same and there are no absolutes in the human mind. There are more reasons to kill then there are people on earth.
That aside, there are some things that are common. Many were abused or overprotected as children, the majority of this change into killing for pleasure happens in childhood you see. That being said some are just born that way and people like the Zodiac Killer will always exist.
Ryan needs to blast "stayin' alive" while they film these videos
That would make it 10x better
Or stay alive and scream, "IM A GENERAL, WHEEEE"
+Avery Archstorm He's not the choice I would've gone with
+Avery Archstorm YASSS
RETREAT
I am so scared, I was waiting for a jump scare
same! but there aren't any lol
The best horror movies are the ones that keep you waiting. Like the Exorcist
Lol same
I got scared when he suddenly said "oh!"
+Haley Teichman I was watching this at 5 in the morning and it genuinely scared me
Lol when I originally heard of this guy years ago I originally thought "oh is he killing people with incompatible zodiac signs?"
How did I get from makeup tutorials to this?
Same 🙋😂
literally me
Do u need to use makeup?
buzzfeed happened :D
Same here my dude :,)
This is so cool, we need more videos like this one.
well its part of the unsolved series there were more before and more to come they do one like around once a month
I like your name! BTS ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Jiminiee
Jimin!!
Goddamn it we're everywhere
These letters were labeled "the zodiac" what if it was a group????
That would make sense.
Damn. That's actually... Kind of realistic
That's what I thought.
And all the descriptions were slightly different...
Yeah I bet it was a bowling team
Ryan is so jumpy like he thinks the Zodiac killer still hangs around the exact same spot killing people 50 years later.
their commentary made this less freaky
right I was cracking up on some parts
Is ir just me or does the Zodiac killer seem like an overweight guy who hates couples because he's not half of one.
Is it*
Ha lol 😂
you kinda just described me
+Kolby Goss busted
Do you know how to spell have?😯 you just spelled HALF some people are so stupid in comment sections its HILARIOUS and I have to correct them😂😂😂,And I'm just a ten year old 🙆 you must be enberresed 😂
The greatest unsolved mystery is Brent suddenly disappearing from Buzzfeed Unsolved
He probably got tired of Ryan XD
I like Shane better anyways
Marcela Pasqualotto ikr Shane is waaaaaaaaaaayyy better
I miss him he was really funny too
Tbh I way prefer Shane
I feel like Ryan doesn't understand the impact he's had on an entire generation of true crime junkies😂😂