HP 800 G2 Mini PC i5-6500T Retro Games Emulation Batocera
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Batocera emulation on the HP EliteDesk 800 G2
55000 games peaking at select titles on the PS3.
Plays most PS2 titles, PS1 5X video resolution, Wii games look fantastic as do all of the 85+ consoles on offer.
It's an emulation Mini beast.
i5 6500T CPU
8Gb DDR3 Ram, 256Gb SSD
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That's on another level, what an amazing chip, bumps up costs but undeniably worth it... Great video, thanks for all your efforts
I love making these vids, glad you like em. Yes, the HP 800 G2 is a bit of a mini beast. I'm hoping to pick up a G3 &/or maybe a G4....
@@HumanoidMachines I'm already eyeing one of these now 🤦🏻♂️ I never know when to stop. Been looking at 6500t and above processor's on these mini pc's since watching this earlier, costs soon spiral... I'll cave 🙄
Oops, bought one... Now wondering if I DON'T want you to show off any higher spec ones!
@@doozeruk2000 lol, a the moment there's no chance. This one is pretty high spec and takes some beating.
I'm pretty sure the EliteDesk 800 G2 uses DDR4 RAM, not DDR3. I just ordered one and looking forward to running some emulators on it in my living room with Batocera. The 4 player arcade games, such as Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara and D&D: Tower of Doom, X-Men, TMNT, etc are really fun to play with my kids. Upgrading from an old Dell Latitude laptop running EmulationStation in Win10 on a Core2Duo (it chokes on N64), so I expect the performance to be noticeably better.
Yes you’re right, it is DDR4, I do get stuff wrong now and again. Definitely will notice a difference in power, this thing will not show any issues at N64. Will play most PS2 titles but will die with games like Shadow of Colossus …. That took an i5 8500t to play perfect although it ran ok with the i5 7500t.
Welp PS2 sold me I did not know how powerful that chip was!
I just got my hands on one of these for a great deal. Thanks for the video. Great for a travel emulation station in building.
How much did you pay for yours ?
@@bektas1453 i paid 160 for the g3. 16gb ram 1 tb ssd. Retrogaming monster. Plays ps3 np but it needs config else it will crash. Dunno fairly new to this. But for 160 and turbo at 3.5ghz its a great machine
Is this your own machine Adrian ? Looks amazing 😃😃👍👍
Love the look of Retro Cave Flyer... a new take on Thrust 😃😃🕹🕹
Hi Steve, I love that game. Totally dropped on it by surprise while making this video. Music is perfect too. Yes my main machine but will make way if I manage to get a G3 or a G4.
I'm sure these HP Elite/Pro Desks can run more modern games as well, GTA 4, Asphalt 9, etc. Can run on these things (but lower the graphics a bit). Pretty nice actually, Getting games to run on such a small device (I used to game on an HP ProDesk 600 G1)
Yes it will run Gran Turismo 4 etc. The HP G1 is a great mini 👍
@Humanoid Machines - Curious if you overclocked CPU to 3.1 GHz... I think the 6500T comes at 2.5 GHz out of the box. If so, how did you do it because I read that HP makes it pretty hard to OC the CPUs in their systems. Thanks for the video, by the way.
From memory, I think it runs at 3.1 in turbo mode
Love your videos....In fact they inspired me to buy a mini Dell PC with the 6500T. I can't get PS2 to play nice, even N64 is struggling! Gutted! I'm using the CoinOps Collections build but I can't see why that would make a difference..... Surely it's still using PCSX2 for PS2 and RetroArch (have tried all 3 cores) to do the emulation? The Dell machine has 16gb DDR4 and a somewhat slow HDD.... Maybe the HDD is the issue?
Have you tried this…. In pcsx2 go to config - general settings - bottom left tick the preset box and move the slider to balanced
In 2023 better to get a 705 g4 with a 2400g or 3400g
They still use today 2024 for its power, I’m about to buy one already custom loaded plug and play
Subscribed. I didn't realize this thing did PS3.
What tiny form factor pc would do PS3? I saw in your other video that the HP 260 G3 Mini PC did not because of a Vulkan issue
Pity the 260 G3 lacked support for PS3 but still a beast. These Mini PC’s all seam to have their traits. HP G series are all brilliant especially the 800 models. Would love to get hold of a 800 G3 or G4. Thanks for subscribing 👍
@@HumanoidMachines I ended up picking up a HP Elitedesk 800 G2 off of ebay with a i5-6500T. This is my first go at this other than a raspberry pi/retropi set up, so i'm excited!
i5 6500t is brilliant and you sure will notice a step up in performance 😁 It’s possible to squeeze more out of ps2 with a few tweaks. 👍
Hi, I’ve got one of these heading my way in the post, with a view to setting up a retro games console for the living room. Did you have any particular settings in pcsx2? Any speed hacks or whatnot?
Its such a powerful chip I didn't do much in the way of speed hacks. With the PSX I used Duckstation as default emulator so could only use bin & cue files there (iso's caused problems). Had it running at 4x resolution no problem. PSP ran at either 4 or 2 x resolution. Didn't touch any PS2 settings.
One important thing..... in Game Settings - Video mode - I set to 1920x1080i reason for this is I got a strange stuttering (video and audio) on various games when playing through my Panasonic TV. Literally went through every setting trying to solve the issue and for some bizarre reason the above solution fixed it??????
@@HumanoidMachines thanks very much for the reply! Your video was pretty inspiring!can’t wait to try it out!! Thanks again!!!
@@HumanoidMachines A year later, and I can definitely say this is a surprising and capable machine!! I'm currently playing RDR on ryuginx switch emulator!! Good times!!!!
I’m about to buy one these plug and play from retroboss, I love the compact look but most importantly reviews seem very good
@@shaunpascoe8229 oh cool! I was thinking of installing some retro os as we never play pc ga,es what does it come with?
You probably should've tested MGS 2, soul calibur 3 or Gran Turismo 3 on PS2 as they're some of the more difficult ones to run without a GPU.
@6:02 this game must be based off of Solar Jetman for the NES
That’s interesting, didn’t know about that game. Will feature both in my next vid. The similar one I remember was Grav on the Atari ST 👍
is RAM, SSD and even CPU upgradeable in these mini pc? Never used one, I'm considering buying but would like to know if later I can upgrade it
Yes you can put two ram sticks in. Sata congratulation for hard drive and cpu can be swapped out with a compatible one
thanks for this. what type of controller are you using for this?
A clone PS2 type usb gamepad.
Hi, from your experience what PC would you recommend that is the cheapest that plays PS3 games well? Thank you
This i5-6500T will play several titles well but you’re looking at games like Minecraft, Adventure Time, Disgaea etc
For a decent PS3 experience then a 9th Gen i5 will do it opening games like Doom etc
@@HumanoidMachines thank you man, appreciate it
I have an EliteDesk G2 i5-6500 GT with Batocera 39, and it works fine, except that I can't get sound through the Displayport. I've already tried all kinds of configurations in Bios and Settings of the Batocera. Any tricks or similar experiences?
Question but how does this little beast handle MGS2 and 3 on PCSX2? Especially in cutscene?
I bought this because I saw it was a great little gaming rig but also because I had a Elitedesk 800 G1 desktop that couldn't handle the job.
I never tried MGS games on this. Interesting…. I’ll include that in my future testing. One game I do know that so far has failed to emulate perfect on any system I’ve built is Shadow of Colossus .
Do botacera updates improve performance? Thanks for posting about i5 6500t I cant find many vids on that chip
It’s a great chip. I’ve done 2 vids covering the 6500t. Last one was vs the i3 6100t.
Not sure if every update improves performance but I have noticed PS2 perform better over the last few versions. Also Model 2 has improved loads. Minor improvements across the board so worth keeping updated.
@@HumanoidMachines awesome! I just snatched a HP elite desk 800 g3 with a 256 gb SSD for $90. I'm hoping I can use my Asus USB Bluetooth adapter to connect my PS4 controllers to botacera. I'm hoping botacera detects the adapter itself as the PC doesn't have built in Bluetooth
@@pack_5176 it’s been hit n miss with usb dongles (WiFi or Bluetooth) for me. Many plug n play but some don’t.
Hi and thanks a lot for this!..After watching the video I bought an used one, but I can't get the same performance with Pcsx2. During the menu it goes to 60 fps, when the game starts it halves to 30 fps. The computer is the same, I have tried with various settings but it changes little.
Do you have any tips for me please?..thanks a lot keep going!
Hi Stefano,
In PCSX2 go to 'config' - 'Emulator Settings' - (bottom of screen) tick box 'Preset' - move slider to '3 Balanced'.
This will open up 2 cores whereas the default is 1. Makes a hell of a difference :)
@@HumanoidMachines I love you
Currently running Batocera on a Lenovo M73 with i5 4570T.Happy with emulation performance considering how much I paid for it.
But for PS2 I really get best results and speed using only native 1x res, with either the pcsx2 stand alone or the pcsx2 Libretro core. Tried diff settings like for emulation setting set to safe, aggressive etc with little different result.
2x works on some games though so its game by game basis really.
But was looking at a Lenovo M700 which also has that 6500T 2.5ghz cpu.
Would this be a noticeable increase in performance over my 4570T?
I presume so being 4 cores at 2.5ghz over 2.9ghz dual ?
Would it be able to run ps2 at 2x at full speed or even 3x?
Would also benefit other higher end systems like original xbox and 3ds emulation I imagine then too?
Edit: Also, would this HP800 G2 be any better than the Lenovo M700 equivalent?
The 6500T is a great chip and for me its where things start to get more interesting. I think it has a noticeable difference over the 4570T. I don't think the PS2 emulation uses more than 2 cores but the 6500T certainly will cover more ground. More games are accessible and more will run at higher rez. It still won't run Shadow of Colossus or Crash n Burn, these come in with the i5 7500T.
Im currently working on a i5 9500T which is awesome but the improvements between generations are not massive. 7500 a bit better than 6500...8500 a bit better than 7500 etc but for me, it starts with the 6500T. Its a bigger jump from a 4th gen. Xbox etc will play good.
HP800 or M700 with the same chip.... I honestly don't know. I guess its the one that you like the look of because they're gonna be very close.
Having said all this, the 4570T is well capable.
@@HumanoidMachines
Thanks very much for the reply.
Yeah, if I didnt have one at all now obviously Id go with that 4 core i5 6500.
But originally all I wanted was one that played systems that android boxes struggle with, namely PSP, N64,Dreamcast and Saturn, and I got that with the 4570 so anything higher was a bonus. But you know, after a while you wonder how it would be with a higher specced PC 😁. It never ends I guess.
So rather than get a 6500 chipped PC Id think Id wait and go for higher again like 7500,so any jump would be well worth it. Price dependant too.
At least Ill try and hold off on getting a 6500,,no promises 😁😇.
Btw here where I am I can get the HP cheaper than the Lenovo so Id go whatever is cheaper I guess.
But yeah.. Might just wait anyway then.
@@fonzitheman I'm currently working with a i5 4590T (almost identical to the 4570). For sure now, the i5 6500T (or the i3 6100T) is certainly a step up. The main thing I'm noticing is with Sega Saturn. It cannot run the emulator Libretro Yabasanshiro which is essential otherwise Saturn looks awful. The other difference is with PS2. More power means more games playable.
I have got some Xbox games running with the 4590 which is great but no chance of Wii-U or PS3 (I did try lol).
@@HumanoidMachines
I did try PS3 on my 4570T but ite a no go really.
Wii U not sure, not sure I tried that but no doubt a no go either.
But some Wii games do run in native res fine.Some games run better once you start playing and they cache.
Think Ill still hold off (try 😁) on a 6500T though and when/if I do upgrade Id jump an i5 7500 at least. Any higher and Im starting to pay more than I want or need to really.
You mean the HP with 6500T wont run the yaba core?
Cause I mentioned in one of your other vids a little while ago my Lenovo M73 4570T wont run the yaba sanshiro core.
Kronos works but is to slow.
So only choice is to run the Beetle core which works great but unfortunately has no upscaling options.I dont think it looks that bad in native res, well not on the 24" monitor that I use. Probs not so good once your screen is bigger I guess.
Thanks for replying as well so time to give you a sub 😁👍
6500 runs yaba no probs
Great video, I've not seen this mini pc before. How would this compare with the Dell ssf 3050? I believe the 3050 uses an i5 7500 so what would the difference be?
I think the Dell comes with a few different CPU’s. I’d guess the 7500t would be a bit better. The HP G2 uses intel HD 530 built in graphics so there may be differences there. Sounds like they’re gonna be similar though 👍
Can it really run Model 2, 3 and Naomi. Which Emulator is this?
Easily…. It’s batocera
Is this able to handle systems like Dreamcast and GameCube at 720p?
Certainly Dreamcast at 720 and even more. GameCube no but would manage 720 with some games.
@@HumanoidMachines what specs do you suggest per emulation upscaled at 720p for GameCube and PS2?
@@fabriziob8522 Im on the i7 version of this right now (i7-6700T). It is running gameCube at 2X (1280X960) no problem. Metroid Prime looks and plays flawless. F-Zero GX drops a few frames at the start but is excellent from there on. I can imagine the Star Wars games won't run well though. My next video me thinks....
Btw the i5-6500T will run most PS2 games at 1280X960
@@HumanoidMachines I am looking for something to run on a crt screen 720p without any problem
What about i5 8400 with 16gb Ram
Is this spec capable of upscaling with the integrated graphics or would an upgraded GPU be required?
If so what consoles could it run with upscaling?
The i5-6500T chip has great integrated graphics. Upscales loads of systems like Dreamcast, Naomi, Saturn, N64, PS1, PSP and even some PS2 games. Mini PC’s don’t upgrade with graphics cards so you’re reliant on the integrated gpu from the cpu.
the pc version of lord of shadows should be better?
Hello. Here's what I have:
HP Elitedesk 800 G2 Mini 35W
Intel CORE i7 vPro CPU
Intel HP 530 (built in graphics chip)
Stock external HP 90W PSU
500GB Crucial SSD
16GB DDR4 RAM (Crucial brand)
VGA and Displayport video out options on board
I got this Mini PC for free from my company (they're trying to get rid of stuff from storage before an impending building remodel). Not trying to do AAA gaming on this thing, and I know upgrading the graphics card or adding a new one is not practical or next to impossible. What I'd like to know is, on top of the excellent emulation potential this thing seems to have, if I am able to play games from the early 2000's or older from Steam such as Star Wars Empire at War or maybe even F.E.A.R. First Encounter Assault Recon. Is that possible with this setup?
I’ve not tried Steam so can’t comment. Someone on here said that it was slow with steam. With no experience I know nothing of this setup.
does a SSD make a big difference for retro gaming?
They certainly make your games / menu system load faster but not really make a difference during gameplay. Not that I have noticed anything 👍
From what I read on Batocera forums whether you are running the games from an SSD, HDD, usb3 or usb2 game performance wise it shouldnt make any difference, perhaps PS3 games though, not sure on that one, if your system can run them anyway that is.
But as HM said, boot up times and loading large CD games based games would be slighty quicker, and maybe the UI.
I use a reg internal HDD.
Still a great choice when it comes to value for money/storage size.
Are you using Batocera / Launchbox / Emuelec or Retroarch?
Batocera
Sorry about that, it's some good greenery, the name is in the title of the video aha, thanks for answering though :). Am looking to buy that system, how easy was it to set up the Batocera?. I would buy your console on Etsy but am low on cash this month :(.
It’s not difficult really. Bios has to be set to boot in Legacy. Drop a formatted hdd in the pc. Put Batocera on a usb stick… boot from that stick and in the menu select install batocera to another drive I.e. the blank hdd.
The hard part is building a games collection 😁
@@HumanoidMachines Am lost from "Bios has to be set to legacy. Drop a formatted hhd to the pc" Please explain 🙏
As for the games I have a cloned Super Console X with plenty titles and my own added Dreamcast / PSP / PS1 games 😀
@@britishwordplay4335 The Bios is the basic input/output system that all PC's have. Its an ugly looking menu system that can be called up during the system boot. Each manufacturer has a different way to summon the bios during boot. It could be tapping on the Escape key or F1, F2, F10, F12 or Delete key during boot. When the bios menu does show its ugly head you can scroll across to the Boot options. Here is where enable Legacy is found. Also need to look for and disable an option called Secure Boot.
Set the boot order to USB key first then hard drive 2nd. older BIOS systems won't allow use of a mouse so - Keyboard keys used are Return (Enter), Arrows, Plus and Minus keys and space bar. Usually press F10 to Exit and Save.
For installing Batocera to the drive from a USB key... there are some excellent videos here on RUclips. Let me know how you get on.
Thanks for the vidéo, WE Can with a bluetooth d'ongle or mayflash bar connect Wiimote please ? Thank you
I have no idea… Something to look into 😁
What are your rpcs3 settings?
Untouched.
Works all PS2 Games Perfect on the 6500T?
Most ps2 games, you’ll get a couple that will have problems but almost all and many of the at 2x resolution.
@@HumanoidMachines THX. How works Gran Turismo 4 for PS2 on the 6500T - full speed?
@@eikeweber1508 gt4 works great on a 6500t 👍
Only some games will have to be dropped to native resolution, almost all other titles play flawless at 1.75x resolution with anti aliasing and v sync enabled
What was the ram in this thing?
8gb ddr3
Sorry DDR4
Run ps4 emulation?
No
Not possible unless you want ps4 ports pc games.
Lies ps3 on a 6500t with hd530 XD
Haha just tested minecraft today solid 28 fps