Detroit’s Old Money Utopia Part I: Grosse Pointe
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2023
- The city of Grosse Pointe is one of 5 Grosse Pointe’s. Grosse Pointe is a small upper class residential community with a small downtown area. The only commercial businesses inside of the City of Grosse Pointe would be found either in the small downtown area or along Mack Avenue on the northern border of the city. Everything else in town is strictly residential. Very high end old money residential at that.
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Even as young as I was when we left Detroit in 1963 I knew Grosse Point was for Rich people
I've lived in the area all my 62 years and am an Independent Professional Photographer who's been shooting high to very high end real estate in all 5 of the burrows for 13 years. There are a good number of Snobs but it has progressed considerably over the past 10 years and the history is fantastic. Still a very beautiful, wealthy & safe place to bring up children and live and I'm also on the Board of the Grosse Pointe Historical Society so I know, verrrrrry much, what I'm talking about.
John B Ford was known as the chemical Ford. Continues to operate today under BASF.
BASF Wyandotte. They've been there for many years.
Great video as always Chris! Back in the '80s, my buddies and I would ride our bikes from our neighborhood in Detroit into GP. It was like a different world for us. Thanks for the memories.
The park you are talking about is Named after my Great Great uncle George Osius. He was one of the founder of one of the Pointe towns. His family business was The Michigan Ammonia Works on Jefferson Ave by the Uniroyal Tire plant. His partner was one of the Strohs Beer family kids. You can find there USA Patton on line for there Ammonia still. You can make a great video on this guy alone all the information you need is in a book published on Grosse Pointe I found at City Hall of one of the points.
Interesting bit of history
4:26. That's the house I grew up in the background on St Clair house #442.❤😮
I grew up in Grosse Pointe in the 1950s. Attended Marare elementary school, played Little League baseball and football and had a great childhood. My Grandparents lived next to the Detroit Country Club. We went to the park to swim everyday during the summer. Lots of very nice people. After I moved away, my roots came with me. I shall always be proud to have grown up in this idyllic town and area. Am I a trust fund baby? No, I made millions without inheritance. I’m proud of that too.
You should be proud of that. Thats a great accomplishment!
Another great video, Chris.
Thanks!
I was spoiled by growing up in La Jolla (San Diego) CA, so the bar is pretty high. I think I would love Grosse Point, weather notwithstanding.
I’ve been to La Jolla actually. Yeah… that’s a pretty high bar.
Grosse point was much like the Hamptons in New York city. The rich of the rich had there summer estates there. The ribbon farms as he calls them were bought up by the wealthy and turned in to estates in the early 1900. My great uncle's place had over 400 foot of beach front on lake St Clair.
The Old Pony in downtown Grosse Pointe is a favorite hangout...great martini's!
FIRST....... But breaks over, will watch at lunch time....... Thanks ahead of time.
Good one thanks
im 48 a 6'6 BLACK MAN from the eastside of Detroit I've been living in one of the Gross Points for 23 years and I have bought homes for my family to live here with me we love it! I live on Lake St. Clair and I know a ton of people here I never got the "SNOB" feeling from anybody and when we golf nobody acts like that unless they want to punched lol and you showed 3 of my sisters homes and my Parents "HOMES" nice video young fella
Haha thank you!
Something I find strange about the USA in general and it applies here to G pt, is that the country still wires its cities like the late 1800’s. American cities still string wires from poles which is so ugly, and expensive to maintain. It’s odd that they are not all underground, it’s more resilient & in the long run more cost effective to maintain and service, and aesthetically makes urban areas look much more attractive. Even here the streets are blighted by those ugly wires
The Detroit area has terrible electrical infrastructure. It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. Michigan's legislators are paid off by the electrical companies, so nothing improves.
Wow, such a nice part of the world to live. Absolutely gorgeous neighbourhood.
If you think this is nice look up Palmer Woods neighborhood in Detroit.. It's amazing this place is still standing. Surrounded by burned out neighborhoods in Detroit.
It is!
Old Detroit nothing like it. So much character.
Grew up in Geosse Pointe across street from the Dodge mansion, Rose Terrace, which has been torn down and replaced with❓cookie cutter houses packed together as sardines. However, I went to South high school and left at graduation in 1973. Yes, quiet and no box stores at all. Always had enviable amenities such as the city park with it's two very large swimming pools and wooded setting along with the boat docks n moorings along the serene Lake Saint Claire. Not for the poor for sure.
Hey I’m in Grosse Pointe Park and have a pass if you ever want a real tour of the park…
Haha right on.
I got a real pass to get in to the park. I took my birth certificate with me showing my mother was an Osius a descendant of who the park is named after. They let me in. It is a real nice park.
I really like the downtown area. Very nice. I'm guessing the winters aren't good. Besides that, I like the area. I like this video!😊❤
Yup, the doom and gloom season in Michigan is tough. Not as bad in the Detroit area than it is in the western portion of the state. No lake effect snow
The great thing is that if you have practice manifestation you can live there too. I view it as aspirational......
Always did want a house on one of the great lakes, Grosse Pointe would be a place I could live. Just have to be close to a Lowes, Home Depot or an Ace, I'm a DIYer. Thanks to Chris for his time, work and posting......
mike
Very close to all 3
Would love to own a 100 plus year old house, well as long if it not eaten up by termites. LOL@@chiplittle9846
Also close to Pointe Hardware, a hardware store with lumber and a staff that knows hardware.
Check out Clarksburg West Virginia someday!
One day! There’s a lot of West Virginia that I want to see
Was John B. Ford the one who built the "Ford" building downtown in the Financial district? It's on Griswold st. , was built in 1908, designed by Daniel Burnham. I heard that the Ford building was from the Ford Glass Co., not Ford Motor.
Grosse Pointe’s allure to me, who is from New England 😂, it strikes me as this is what certain portions of outer Detroit proper used to look like. This community reminds me of many of Maines coastal towns. They don’t get rave reviews from the blue collar here either, but Grosse Pointe has a lot to offer and if I could do so immediately I move there to try to be involved in Detroits comeback, while earning a return on that investment. I picked Grosse Pointe based on location and the looks of the houses and it’s ratings not necessarily the local culture. Thanks for the video, yet again.
It’s a great choice on choosing a place to live in the area, no doubt.
@@ChrisHarden To be upfront I have been postponing a DM about asking your opinion on where to live in Metro Detroit, as I have been watching inner city property values double since I followed you.
Ohhhh ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😉
There is a third, albeit small business district in Grosse Pointe: Fisher Road between Maumee and St Paul.
Yes there is, good catch
They are not snobby. You could say the same about Birmingham, Bloomfield, Rochester ect. All same income levels.
I’m very familiar with Birmingham, Bloomfield, & Rochester. They are snobby. It’s a different kind of mean streets. I lived in the first two places mentioned. At least Grosse Pointe has the lakefront, but I prefer St. Clair Shores for it being accessible.
The hell if they're not snobby,. Hell this article is snobby As F.
All the N.W. suburbs of Detroit ( ie; Birmingham, Bloomfield etc), run circles around the east side ( Grosse Points).
@@ccssid1232 you mean theyre pseudo new money snobby
exactly@@donnimetropolis9899
Home of the infamous “Detroit Mob” 😅
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Use to be
You are mistaking "pompous snob" for being a MassHole, a title which we wear proudly!
Next time I'll make sure to call you guys Masshole's.
I have never experienced Grosse Pointe snob.
You probably haven’t been to GPYC, CCD, or the Grosse Pointe Club then
@@Ethan-dd4ln I have not
HAHAH I was wondering if you'd drive by my place, but not only that, you caught me pulling out of my driveway in my rusty red truck (sticks out like a sore thumb) at about 6:45 and you follow me downtown. AND it totally looks like a piece of paper flew out my window so better late than never you should probably call GPPD and report! I'm 31 and own the duplex at the corner of Neff and Kercheval next to Panera. So no snobby old money coming from me! And my friends across Kercheval who own the other duplex are also millennial's, so the demographics are definitely starting to change. If you ever want a tour of the 1928 duplex and its weird features like double boiler heat, central incinerator, and giant attic, let me know! Also got ya for park access and a beer on me if ya want to talk real estate.
You didn’t mention the other schools
I am friends with Andrew and can also get you into anywhere!
The Fords are good people.
One of the Ford mansions for sale in GP now.
@@moodypet8837 oh wow I'm going to look up the photos.
Nice Starbucks been there
You sound jealous
Hmm.
It's called sarcasm......with an edge.
I quite enjoy it.
Scheudle
Its not old money now
That’s where you are mistaken my friend, shits old af
He's not claiming all of the current residents are elderly. He's pointing out that many of the people who live there are only able to afford to do so because they inherited an already-paid-for house from their parents or grandparents, or were given (or inherited) enough money from family to be able to buy their own home in the Pointes.
He's also comparing it to the region's "new money" areas like the Bloomfields, Troy, South Lyon, etc. (And yes, I recognize that those cities also have plenty of middle class people living there as well.)
There are certainly some first generation "new money" people, including some middle-class people, who have been able to afford to buy a house in the Pointes without having inherited anything. But traditionally this area was where the "old money" families lived.
There is also a hierarchy of Pointes, with people from some areas thinking that they're better than people from the "lesser" Pointes, and that's been true for many decades now.
Even if an expensive home here has a lower purchase price than a very modest home in the Los Angeles or San Francisco or New York City areas, don't underestimate people's tendency to be snooty relative to the other people in their own geographic area
@@TakenTook it use to be old money. Not so much anymore
@@TakenTook yep Grosse Pointe Woods is less expensive
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How ignorant..... this article shows how little people really know about detroit. They market the worst areas and people actually think that's all of detroit.
Ah, too funny. I was boned in Detroit in the mid 1950s, raised in Bloomfield Hills, and lived in Boston for twenty-three years, from 1978 to 2001. Yes, it's snippy, though not as much as before since each year the population becomes more and more diffuse. Actually, Boston might be more accurately described as being somewhat racist...ACTUALLY SO (though not in theory...according to Bostonians, who consider their little round town to be the last bastion of liberalism). The city can also be described as softly $atanic...because it is. Little round Beantown also suffers from a lack of any good, immediately pre WWII buildings. By that time Boston was already a few decades out of the loop. Now, Boston does have something that Detroit lacks, and that is... a variable topography. Detroit is flat as a pancake.
You’re wrong! There’s a lakefront park for each of the 5 Grosse Pointe cities. Private to keep jealous haters like you out of our snobby pools that you wish you had access to
Yup… I’m a jealous hater that wishes he had access to your snobby pools. You got me. Lol. The comment section never fails when you need a laugh.
Think we don’t grow up with people like you in Eastpointe and Roseville? Pure envy. You’d suck anything to be us for a day. People like you who make us remember how good we have it, thank you!
Nah... your neighbors in Grosse Pointe are actually embarrassed to see one of their own... someone like you talking the way that you are.
The worst kroger ever
This guy sounds bitter and jealous..
How? Doesn’t seem jealous to me just making observations
@@YntstaxSome people can’t laugh at themselves. Everyone fits a stereotype and can be ripped on. I’m white, I live in a place that’s almost equally as snobby as Grosse Pointe and I can be a petty snob in several ways myself.
Not when it comes to golf clubs though… I just go to FaceBook Marketplace for those…
I made a comment but poof it’s gone nothing bad just good well I never lol I doubt that I would be jealous cause I didn’t live in an sob walking and talking place Old Money my thing Thanks Chris great vid and this my second comment the other comment got sob off it a good one
I used to do business in grosse pointe . I found the residents to be very nice and good customers.
My opinion, constantly being sarcastic is annoying, I love to goof off but it takes away from ur content, ur video, do as u want. Humor here and there, now and then would be cool.
I’m not being sarcastic Tom, I’m being jealous of the Grosse Pointe elites. Duh. (Ok… ok… fine.)
I agree here, I turned the volume off for a long stretch. Not coming from the USA I find particularly irrelevant and meaningless
Lmaoo He passed by my house 😭