Farewell to Corrie 1984 - the year of: the Websters, the final swansong of a Walker (albeit roguish Billy) in the Rovers, Elsie Tanner's far too rushed exit, and the sad loss of Stan Ogden. For me, New Year 1985 marked the beginning of the last decade of the "Golden Era", with Bet as Queen of the Rovers. After that, it was downhill all the way.
I've been binge watching all these old episodes of when life was far less complex than of today. I remember these from when I was a kid. We weren't that far behind in Australia but then they stopped showing it here but then brought it back a couple of years later but by then it had lost its drive and was canned for good.
I saw Jean Alexander in an interview not long after she left Corrie. Oh my what a lovely woman. Funny, charming, smart and full of grace. She has been a jewel to anyone that has watched Corrie. 💖
@@annstewart9693it was. Have a friend who worked in makeup at BBC and she said they didn't know the extent of his evilness at the time but it was common knowledge that you never left him or Harris alone with women or children.
@@philstrachan And yet the beeb repeatedly left them alone with children. Not only that, but the beeb also provided an endless supply of little kids for them too.
Interesting how they'd lined up Vera and Jack to replace Hilda and Stan as the Steet's comedy couple. They'd even given Jack Stan's window cleaning round.
It was so obvious, wasn't it? Although Hilda was a gem and the other three weren't. Only saw Stan show love towards Hilda once when her brother died, otherwise he'd constantly stral from her, who worked hard. The Duckworths are vile people.
Kevin could convey every single emotion with that moustache (Sally Seddon's minge tickler) alone, the rest of his face was wooden. He invented Botox face before Botox was ever discovered 😂.
Who can blame Bill Websters bird for not being keen to go back on the cruise ships - imagine being unlucky enough to be stuck on one of them ships with that Jane McDonald character murdering Hey Big Spender or any other song for that matter - that would be my worst nightmare come true
Think Vera had a cheek in the Boxing Day episode. Ivy invites her over, says Hilda’s going to be there, and she complains about Hilda-but still goes herself! Up to Ivy who’s there-it’s her house.
02:17:47 I like how the tinsel on the door behind Bet changes colour when she steps outside and closes the door and it suddenly acquires an extra piece around the window trim.
It’s interesting to see what an absolute ratbag Jack was and yet, he was absolutely beloved by the time he died. Working at The Rovers was the making of him. He evolved into a darling.
Instead of going off to work at Dr. Lowther's new house in 1987, I think it would have been wonderful if Eddie and Marion had come back for Hilda, and moved her to Bury with them, where, without Stan, she really belongs.
@@philstrachan He quit because he didn’t like the pair up with Marion! He got sick and tired of it, and quit! And he’s no catch, but Marion is one of the most unattractive women on that show, so I don’t blame him! He went on to act in “Keeping Up Appearances”, of course! And he also wanted his character to stay single, not married.
How are they to do that with no Eddie??! And that would mean needing to have a new set for them and their town! And why would Marion want Hilda??! And why would Hilda sell her house and leave her jobs to go to another town with two people that are not her family??! 😂🤣
Kevin’s reaction to Elaine is exactly the same as Nicky’s reaction to. Martin ( who Gail married after Brian’s death. ) Same situation-but how much older than Nicky is Kevin?? But he still wants his surviving parent to stay single. Mind you, it’s also how Brian initially reacted to any men Ivy showed an interest in after Bert died.
First appearance of Dulcie Froggatt ( who Jack met on what had been Stan’s window round)- played by Marji Campi ( who went on to play Jessie Shadwick in Brookside. Wonder if she was “‘er off flamin’ rotten Inkerman Street.”? After all, that was part of Stan’s round-and if Jack was doing the same round Stan had done...
The scene between Billy and the brewery boss was filmed in a real office - you can tell immediately the difference in film quality between studio cameras and a portable one - slightly grainier footage, different acoustics, long static shots. Looks like it might have been filmed at Manchester town hall.
Yes, they used film cameras for all external shots for decades before portable video cameras technology got better. The colour grading and contrast was quite obvious.
Bye Billy Walker, shame he never came back again after this, as he had been a recurring character since 1961. Billy returned to Jersey for good, and what has become of his since is unknown. I think Ken tried to contact him in 2002 but he was untraceable.
@@corriearcade60 He tried to trace Billy down in June 2002 for Betty's retirement party but was unsuccessful. Betty then changed her mind about retiring.
So a big loaf cost 50p and i just bought a big loaf out Farmfoods for 75p nearly 30 years later - thats not bad really - On the wages back then 50p must have been quite pricey
Surprised Emily wasn’t in the Rovers’ with everyone else in the Christmas Eve episode. And it’d have been good if Gordon had joined in with ‘Silent Night.’
alexander jones Gordon Lewis one of the sexiest man I ever seen in the street in 1984 after mike Baldwin Gordon doesn't need to sing silent night he should have being the new landlord in my book for 1985
Why does Bill, starting a new married life in Southampton, keep mithering about keeping the family together? His children are two young adults with jobs, not school kids ...
That flipping john lennon songs doing my head in...much tok late for goodbyes...you'd thing corrie was sponsors of it 😂😂 Its being playing in the cafe everytime it goes to there then the pub.. no other songs from Dec 84
At some point the kitchen and living room were turned into one room. When originally built houses like those in Coronation Street often had the back living rooms with big ranges for cooking later on the little sculleries at the back were made into kitchens. The front living rooms or parlours were only used for special occasions or sometimes as a bedroom
Why would Bette think that Betty would want that pub at her age??! She is certainly not hurting for money, so she doesn’t need to take on all the extra work and problems ! And Betty that she only works a few hours, but she is there morning and night, so that’s more than a few! And she couldn’t do it anyway because she doesn’t have the money!
Because stupid Ivy allows it! She always had to yell at him to drive his taxi! And Ivy should not be with him to begin with! Another unbelievable storyline that would not be happening in reality! 😂🤣
45.7. Kevin quips.. "And make sure your not sitting next to Jimmy Saville on the bus". In Sept 2024 😮 Does this mean he wasn't generally liked back then? Who could have imagined the dravity Saville was up to then
I think the police were trying to bring case's against him in the 80s But couldn't get enough against him to get him in court I seen in a documentary about him about 10 years After it all came out the evil horrors he was up to
Big mistake on Corrie's part in letting Gordon Lewis go - he would of actually made an Ideal Husband to Bet. The reason for this, is cos they are opposites, and actually look good together IMHO.
Oh Jean Alexander......we'll love you forever.❤
Farewell to Corrie 1984 - the year of: the Websters, the final swansong of a Walker (albeit roguish Billy) in the Rovers, Elsie Tanner's far too rushed exit, and the sad loss of Stan Ogden.
For me, New Year 1985 marked the beginning of the last decade of the "Golden Era", with Bet as Queen of the Rovers. After that, it was downhill all the way.
cara smith gordon lewis should have being landlord not bet with her false wig . gordon was all man
Agreed
Agreed watched right from beginning not same with all legends gone 😢
@@MultiKs22 But he doesn’t bring in or keep the fans! 😂🤣
I think Albert Tatlock also passed away in 1984.
Ah when Hilda starting singing silent Night and everyone joined in. Brought tears to my eyes that did😢😢❤❤
Me too, it was lovely
And me
Thanks, I was 8 when these came out so it’s nice to see the older cast being young.
Same
Thanks alot!!!!!! Reliving this show is helping me and others get through these crazy times. It's a joy to watch, again Thank You!!!!
I've been binge watching all these old episodes of when life was far less complex than of today. I remember these from when I was a kid. We weren't that far behind in Australia but then they stopped showing it here but then brought it back a couple of years later but by then it had lost its drive and was canned for good.
I saw Jean Alexander in an interview not long after she left Corrie. Oh my what a lovely woman. Funny, charming, smart and full of grace. She has been a jewel to anyone that has watched Corrie. 💖
She was a true actor where the others were only mediocre.
@@philstrachan Pat Phoenix was hardly “mediocre “!! 😂🤣
I remember watching 90s episodes at my grandparents.
I've done 1990 to 99 so thought I'd go back to when I was born and watch up to 1990.
Kevin's point about not sitting next to Jimmy Saville was a prophetic warning, though he probably didn't understand....
it was an open secret in show biz
@@annstewart9693it was. Have a friend who worked in makeup at BBC and she said they didn't know the extent of his evilness at the time but it was common knowledge that you never left him or Harris alone with women or children.
@@philstrachan And yet the beeb repeatedly left them alone with children. Not only that, but the beeb also provided an endless supply of little kids for them too.
Think the police were trying get him put away for years
Hilda's lost without her Stan and Coronation street lost a legend.
Absolutely spot on
@@lindarowe8550 I could never like Stan as he used Hilda like a slave !
@@francesgillotti1378 He was a useless tool.
Nooo Wayyy… Stans character was a no good lazy walking pie can… He did nothing but use Hilda as a skivvy…
@Joseph Bland you have missed the point.
I will always giggle at the memory of Stan and Eddie and the tandem bike they were supposed to sell for £100. I think it was 1977.
And the house they were hiding it in was demolished 😂
2 hours 35 , one of the best Street moments ever , no words needed.
Eddie and Stan were two lovable rogues whose replacement Jack Duckworth was as cuddly as a skunk
Bill Webster was my kinda guy, he had such a kind face, lovely deep voice and he was from North Yorkshire, just like me !!
Didn't like the webster's or Elaine and even worse the Clayton's
I thought he was so handsome.
I thought he was boring beyond belief his character over the decades when he was in and out Coronation Street talk about dull🥱🥱🥱🥱
Interesting how they'd lined up Vera and Jack to replace Hilda and Stan as the Steet's comedy couple. They'd even given Jack Stan's window cleaning round.
It was so obvious, wasn't it? Although Hilda was a gem and the other three weren't. Only saw Stan show love towards Hilda once when her brother died, otherwise he'd constantly stral from her, who worked hard. The Duckworths are vile people.
@@philstrachan If you have only seen love once, you obviously don’t pay attention to the show! 😂🤣
Stan bored me senseless
And Eddie Yates But loved
Geoffrey Hughes in Keeping Up Appearances
RIP to him great UK actor
Those were the days when it was worth watching and our Terry was so handsome.
Terry T Shirt
Kevin Webster..the shouting school of acting.
Kevin could convey every single emotion with that moustache (Sally Seddon's minge tickler) alone, the rest of his face was wooden. He invented Botox face before Botox was ever discovered 😂.
KEVIN 😂
Kevin sounded like a Dalek from Newton Heath.
Love this era. Billy is the last Walker to leave the Rovers. Bet waiting in the wings to take over.
Changed his name and moved to Emmerdale 😊
Billy got his karma for way he treated fred
I miss Stan 2. It’s just not the same without him.
Didnt like stan, work shy,.lazy .lager lout, always stole from hilda who worked 3 jobs while stan sat on his butt
He was a very boring mediocre character at best
Who can blame Bill Websters bird for not being keen to go back on the cruise ships - imagine being unlucky enough to be stuck on one of them ships with that Jane McDonald character murdering Hey Big Spender or any other song for that matter - that would be my worst nightmare come true
Think Vera had a cheek in the Boxing Day episode. Ivy invites her over, says Hilda’s going to be there, and she complains about Hilda-but still goes herself! Up to Ivy who’s there-it’s her house.
Oh gosh I had teary eyes love them all Coronation street 😇🥰💛
Billy walker later on went to emmerdale as Tom king in the 2000s. I love ❤️ coronation street especially the older ones!
And family affairs in the 90s
Sad that the actress who played Elaine died in 1987 aged 41 x
When they sing silent night it breaks me everytime
I absolutely love the theme song 🥰💚💚💚
My boyfriend passed a few months ago and coronation street is like a dear friend helping me get adjusted 😘
First time I heard Bet say she thought Percy had nicked the tree from Albert Square, I thought of EastEnders-which wasn’t even on yet at this time!
The scene of Jack's death was so well done, Vera coming to take him with her, had me sobbing like a baby.
She would have meant Albert Square in the centre of Manchester where the Town Hall is and has a large annual Christmas tree
1:27:16 this conversation between Mike and Bet for me is a seminal moment in Corrie’s next decade!
02:17:47 I like how the tinsel on the door behind Bet changes colour when she steps outside and closes the door and it suddenly acquires an extra piece around the window trim.
Lol, yes, there's also lots of contunuity issues with the length of cigarettes when they make an outtake.
Coronation Street is now grim. Poor scripts and mostly shallow tedious characters.
Time to take down the dated Street and replace it with something modern?
It’s interesting to see what an absolute ratbag Jack was and yet, he was absolutely beloved by the time he died. Working at The Rovers was the making of him. He evolved into a darling.
elsie tanner one of the best actors corrie every had
52:24 Although she appears to be relaxing, Hilda is permanently switched on for new gossip. Look at her eyes bulge as Vera lays into Jack.
So many of the greats departed fiom 83 to 84.
Len, Elsie, Annie, Billy, Albert, Bert and Stan.
Instead of going off to work at Dr. Lowther's new house in 1987, I think it would have been wonderful if Eddie and Marion had come back for Hilda, and moved her to Bury with them, where, without Stan, she really belongs.
Would been great that with eddie dint leave
It was very weird that Eddie didn't return for the funeral. Must have been some sort of falling out with producers behind the scenes.
@@philstrachan He quit because he didn’t like the pair up with Marion! He got sick and tired of it, and quit! And he’s no catch, but Marion is one of the most unattractive women on that show, so I don’t blame him! He went on to act in “Keeping Up Appearances”, of course! And he also wanted his character to stay single, not married.
How are they to do that with no Eddie??! And that would mean needing to have a new set for them and their town! And why would Marion want Hilda??! And why would Hilda sell her house and leave her jobs to go to another town with two people that are not her family??! 😂🤣
@@chicagogyrl4846 I meant off screen.
Debbie reminds me of a younger Phyllis with her new hairdo
Bwahahaha
That Debbie dresses as though she wants to be ready to go, the second the circus calls.
The wardrobe department must have really had it in for her.
You don't resemble Dracula🧛 as much as you once did 😂 great line there from Vera😂
So Jack wants to be manager of the Rovers... Ironic, since he ends up there as Bet and Alec’s pitman- and then later, when Bet goes, becomes landlord.
2:34:56 Brilliant scene. What makes Coronation Street great even after lot of characters left or died.
Jack “Everything comes to her who waits at the bus stop of life my love.” Well, when he died, Vera’s ghost told him there was a bus coming...
Eh?
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Your right - it was a lovely throwback to hear Vera (as a ghost) say it back to Jack 😢
Kevin’s reaction to Elaine is exactly the same as Nicky’s reaction to. Martin ( who Gail married after Brian’s death. ) Same situation-but how much older than Nicky is Kevin?? But he still wants his surviving parent to stay single. Mind you, it’s also how Brian initially reacted to any men Ivy showed an interest in after Bert died.
Any man interested in Ivy needed certifying...
First appearance of Dulcie Froggatt ( who Jack met on what had been Stan’s window round)- played by Marji Campi ( who went on to play Jessie Shadwick in Brookside. Wonder if she was “‘er off flamin’ rotten Inkerman Street.”? After all, that was part of Stan’s round-and if Jack was doing the same round Stan had done...
No she wasn't, Hilda went to the dreaded Inkerman street house once when Stan ran away from home lol. Definitely not the same house.
No Dulcie lived in a better area than Inkerman Street which was always spoken of as being similar or slightly lower class than Coronation Street
Kevin is such a spoiled whiner and never changes thru the years ,Special thank you for this walk down menory lane
Kevin was there for his muscles, not his acting skills 😂
Kevin was a proper spoilt bratt couldn't stand any of the Webster's full stop or the boring Clayton's . 1:36:20
Ten stone muscle man
The Trials and tribulations of Jack and Dulcie Froggart. 🤣 Such fun to come
The scene between Billy and the brewery boss was filmed in a real office - you can tell immediately the difference in film quality between studio cameras and a portable one - slightly grainier footage, different acoustics, long static shots. Looks like it might have been filmed at Manchester town hall.
Yes, they used film cameras for all external shots for decades before portable video cameras technology got better. The colour grading and contrast was quite obvious.
Mr Walker was in Family Affair's in the 90s and Mr King in Emmerdale in the 2000s
13:39 out-take left in, can hear some bloke in the background laughing his head off 🤣
Why are Gail and Brian in the pub on Xmas eve instead of home with nicky shocking parenting
Why does Betty start every sentence with an awwww oooh woe is the world voice!
She just did it exactly same time I read your comment! 😂
The book of 1984 happening before our eyes today
Mr Lewis went on to play Harry Crawford in Boon
Late 80s Early 90s David Daker great actor
Bye Billy Walker, shame he never came back again after this, as he had been a recurring character since 1961. Billy returned to Jersey for good, and what has become of his since is unknown. I think Ken tried to contact him in 2002 but he was untraceable.
What did Ken do?
I think it was for Betty's retirement party.
He should have tried Bebo...
@@corriearcade60 He tried to trace Billy down in June 2002 for Betty's retirement party but was unsuccessful. Betty then changed her mind about retiring.
He went to the Yorkshire dales 😂
Actually, I’d’ve thought Rita’d be working on Christmas Eve-which’s be a manic shopping day. Don’t tell me she’s left Mavis on her own to cope!
I was 6 in 84....Not watched Corrie since I was a teen maybe but I do recall Kevin was always a moaning git and I always wanted to be Bet 😂
Loving the Nik Kershaw ❤
2:40 Bad hair day alert.
So if Dawn Yates was born in 1984-she’d be 36 now!
No 40
Terry very good looking in those days
Yes he gained a lot of weight later in life
Grow up Kevin webster, your dad's getting married. WTF
So a big loaf cost 50p and i just bought a big loaf out Farmfoods for 75p nearly 30 years later - thats not bad really - On the wages back then 50p must have been quite pricey
I've been looking at prices signage on shelves of Alf's shop - tinned "ham" =17p!!!
Surprised Emily wasn’t in the Rovers’ with everyone else in the Christmas Eve episode. And it’d have been good if Gordon had joined in with ‘Silent Night.’
alexander jones Gordon Lewis one of the sexiest man I ever seen in the street in 1984 after mike Baldwin Gordon doesn't need to sing silent night he should have being the new landlord in my book for 1985
@@tiberseptim560 I "use bicycle handlebar tape to get a grip.
The Duckworths could have had their own show😂
I wish they had.
Yeah in a sitcom. Where they really belong.
Terry was a bit wooden
But Jack and Vera very good natural character's
With comedy moments
Get it? Got it? Good!
Why does Bill, starting a new married life in Southampton, keep mithering about keeping the family together? His children are two young adults with jobs, not school kids ...
I can't get used to the Websters in Elsie's house or Len's yard, they aren't anywhere near good enough.
Like the 80s Motorway Driving Scene
That flipping john lennon songs doing my head in...much tok late for goodbyes...you'd thing corrie was sponsors of it 😂😂 Its being playing in the cafe everytime it goes to there then the pub.. no other songs from Dec 84
Why is the Duckworth's cooker in the living room and not the back kitchen, like the Ogden's etc.?
I have always wondered that, never found out though
At some point the kitchen and living room were turned into one room. When originally built houses like those in Coronation Street often had the back living rooms with big ranges for cooking later on the little sculleries at the back were made into kitchens. The front living rooms or parlours were only used for special occasions or sometimes as a bedroom
Wonder why Mike Baldwin didn’t buy the Rovers?
Good point 👍
Because he already had two businesses to run!!
To tacky for Mike Baldwin running a boozer
46:25 Quite right Kevin, quite right my boy !
So Jack and Annie took over the Rovers in 1954.
1937
I love Phyllis so much haha
I have watched Corrie since 1st episode. I like Bill Webster and his daughter, but his prospective bride Elaine is like a female Barry Manilow!
She was
Yes she has a very big nose especially when her and Bill kiss
1:14:50 That fateful meeting: Dulcie Frogatt and Vince St.Clair 😂
Why would Bette think that Betty would want that pub at her age??! She is certainly not hurting for money, so she doesn’t need to take on all the extra work and problems ! And Betty that she only works a few hours, but she is there morning and night, so that’s more than a few! And she couldn’t do it anyway because she doesn’t have the money!
What happened to the nice, big Christmas tree that the old man was carrying??! Now it looks like a bush!! 😂🤣
Funny how Jack expects to grift off his missus, much like Stan & Hilda
Because stupid Ivy allows it! She always had to yell at him to drive his taxi! And Ivy should not be with him to begin with! Another unbelievable storyline that would not be happening in reality! 😂🤣
Vera
@chicagogyrl4846 Vera not Ivy
Who’s the Actor who plays Rita’s bit of fluff? Looks familiar
To say Bill is quite ruggedly handsome, his taste in women is rather… odd.
So is Brian’s!! 😂🤣
Have you got months like this from the 90s? I know your favourite character ( from the thumbnail) was no more then, but...
Was Dulcie (Marji Campi)‘s husband ever in Brookside?
Dracula's granny 😂😂😂
Got any 1960s please
Bet would make a good owner. I like her
Bernard Youens ( Stan ) had recently died in real, they incorporated that into the storyline.
Really??! I didn’t know!! 😂🤣
The Tadge Mallet. What ever that might be 😂
“‘Ere we go again. ‘E goes-who comes?” You won’t like the answer, Bet...
so no more Fred from this point on?
Honestly, Vera's husband is the most laziest man in this show...
Should have seen Stan.
@@KuchiKopi179 Stan was pretty honest about his lack of work ethic, but Jack was plain sleazy.
Kevin's sister is a right gargoyle...
Kevin's looks very hand to mouth necking that soup🥣🍞
If Billy wanted to drink in the middle of the night, he should have taken all his drunk friends into the back dining room, not in the pub! Stupid!!
45.7. Kevin quips.. "And make sure your not sitting next to Jimmy Saville on the bus". In Sept 2024 😮
Does this mean he wasn't generally liked back then?
Who could have imagined the dravity Saville was up to then
I think the police were trying to bring case's against him in the 80s
But couldn't get enough against him to get him in court
I seen in a documentary about him about 10 years
After it all came out the evil horrors he was up to
Kevin Webster - Midge Ure Patriarch
Terry…20?!😂
The actor here who plays him here is 25 his Dob 1959
Bill should be glad to get away from angry, shouty Kevin ...
glad Debbie got written out, annoying character.
She's in it now as a baddie apparently, surprise surprise 😵💫
Big mistake on Corrie's part in letting Gordon Lewis go - he would of actually made an Ideal Husband to Bet. The reason for this, is cos they are opposites, and actually look good together IMHO.
Gordon Lewis and Bet? Seriously?
‘Would have’ not ‘Would of’. No such sentence
Billy was quite a pin-up in his army uniform in earlier times, but ended up like Stigg of the Dump in the end ...
28:56 famous last words