Emerson, Lake and Palmer- Tank (First Listen)
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024
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Song Link: • Tank (2012 Remaster)
This used to be one of the go-to songs we played in the hi-fi store where I worked during college. It demonstrated well the responsiveness of speakers, especially the low-end performance of Klipsch Cornerhorns.
So much talent, creativity and ENERGY in one band and they were absolutely amazing live!
So glad you mention Lake on the bass. At time he was appreciated in polls in Britain and was certainly as respected as Chris Squire or John Wetton.
I got to briefly meet Carl Palmer when I saw his ELP Legacy Band in 2016, he was at a desk after the show. it was quick cause there were people behind me but he told me “thanks for coming” and I got a picture with him! He also gave my dad a fist bump, lol. Great memory
Nice!
This song and "Trilogy" are the soundtracks of all my life!
It is Carl's solo piece on the album, as Keith's is The Three Fates and Greg's is Lucky Man.
ELP played Tank again on Works vol. 1 with orchestra instruments, and left out Palmer's drum solo. That album also has Pirates and Fanfare for the Common Man.
It's a damn shame that those who own the rights to songs just don't get how videos like this help a new generation discover the music and will lead to them making more from the songs. Copyright claims on videos like this are so counterproductive.
I could not agree more, they should see reaction videos as free ads for music listeners to discover these works, get turned on to the "product" the company owns.
Agreed. Fripp blocking every KC reaction is the height of stupidity.
It is quite disappointing for sure.
@@psbarrow And whats hilarious is fripp on his channel plays copyrighted music I would love it if his video's got blocked
@@TheD4VR0S Oooh, what's the music?
You stopped before Keith Emerson's epic Moog synthesizer part. I'd love to hear your reacton to that.
Nothing to complain about with this piece. Just super!
In the 70's we had Buddy Rich and England has Carl Palmer. Carl is one of he few drummers that made me want to be a drummer/percussionist.
After Knife-Edge this is my favorite song on the album. Carl Palmer just never gets tiring for me. My favorite drummer live I ever saw in concert. Jazz, speed, power but his ability to lift the song with his solo amazes me. Good observations here. Cheers!
What a phenomenal instrumental piece
That clavinet solo in the end is magic
Espacially after such drum work
I’ve been waiting for the review on this one! Cool!!
Carl was a monster on drums !!
Absolutely!
@Re Zo Throw Keith Moon into the mix and you got it.
This is one of 3 ELP songs featured as part of the original "Laserium" at the Griffith Park (CA) Observatory, mid-70's. ELP were THE Progressive band for this honor.
I saw Laserium a few times. Incredible!!
This is great you play albums I have on vinyl LP's but no longer a rig to play them on so cheers for that.
That was a good review JP! Keith was carrying on from when he was in 'The Nice' with his classical leaning. Greg and Carl were very good choices to complete his sound, King Crimson and Atomic Rooster were both great bands to get collaborators from.
Love me some Atomic Rooster. Those first two albums with Carl Palmer are awesome, and the third one with Paul Hammond is as well. A much under rated power band.
I agree, I love the final drum solo section it is so cool. The first part is also amazing.
My day is always better when you are diving into more classic prog rock. I'm especially glad you noticed Greg Lake's bass playing since I thing he's underappreciated. Unfortunately it gets lost in the last section which is all synths & drums. I'm not a big fan of soloing, especially drum solos but this doesn't go on for too long. Other bands let them go on for 10 minutes or more, like the live version of 'Let It Rain' by Derek & the Dominos, the song drags on for over 18 minutes, ridiculous.
Carls drum solo is iconic always a favorite
I got to see Carl perform this in concert with ELP on his cast stainless steel drum set on a rotating base - extended solo, of course. Ringo Starr owns that set today.
ELP's bloom is without a doubt Trilogy. It's their most mature LP in any standards. It's in my top 3 all time album list, a true gem.
My favorite track from this album.
Well I have been listening to this since the album was released. I do understand what you mean about the length of the solo but I feel, as you listen to this song more and more, that that length will seem to shrink. Mainly becuase you now KNOW what is coming up at the end of it. A stunning transition. I hope that it gives you goosebumps in 50 yeas time just like it does me. I never get tired of listening to it.
Yep. After half a century I can’t get enough of them. Critics in the day were not friendly to them for reasons I’ll never know.
Me too!!
Works volume 1 has a version of Tank played with an orchestra that omits the drum solo. That record also has 'Pirates" and "Fanfare for the Common Man."
They were pioneers of synthesizer that many followed.
P.S. I'm totally jealous of FOXKEMP!! Wow meeting Carl Palmer!! Thats AMAZING!!- There's nothing in the world IMO. Better then LIVE MUSIC!! EXCEPT MEETING YOUR IDOLS AFTER TGE SHOW!!! I have so many PRICELESS PICTURES OF AMAZING MUSICIANS!! I'm very lucky in that regard and EXTREMELY GRATEFUL when they take the time after a show to meet their fans!!!!😊😊😊😊
Was diggin the steely dan try caves of Altamira
Heavy classical influence, indeed. You will eventually get to the "Pictures at an Exhibition" live album from 1971. It is ELP's arrangement of Mussorgsky's 10 piece Suite, of the same name, written for piano in 1874. You're in for a treat! As far as pushing boundaries, that's an understatement! One of the wildest live shows I've ever seen!
I appreciate your analysis of the songs that you react to!
Thanks Joel!
Oh yeah, I use to crank the volume to 11 for the phase shift transition in Tank. That's why I'm an old man that can't hear well.
ELP did "Pictures at an Exhibition" recorded live before their debut album and might have been released as a double album(it wasn't). There is a studio version from years later, but the early live one has the charm.
Carl is also a melodic player, that's why he made the transition from the drum solo back with Keith and Greg so beautiful. Keep listening to ELP and you'll see. The piece called Trilogy from the album Trilogy is a good example.
Trilogy is my favorite ELP piece, and probably my favorite album too.
Our first cruise, we did a kind of cattle call photo session with several of the bands, including Focus and Saga. It was all very quick, with little time to talk. So much so that after the first one, my buddy Steve turns to me and says "I just stepped on that old guy's foot!" You mean Carl Palmer's? "What!?"
Lol!😅
On Works volume1 they remake Tank using orchestra on the first section, and leave out the drum solo except for the transition with phase shifter to the second section. In concert Carl Palmer would play that very drum piece during Karnreval 9 First Impression.
I've been wondering for many years why it was rock music that developed so richly and so quickly, letting itself be influenced by virtually every musical genre (classical, jazz, folk, country, world, experimental...). I mean, rock was basically only 15 years or so old when this album came out! Why hasn't this happened in, for instance, country and western? Why is there no classical or jazz crossover in country, and is such a thing even possible? (This is not to deny that real artistry can happen in C&W, clearly it can). The fact that rock has deep roots in country music makes the question all the more interesting. Anybody have any thoughts?
Two albums - both from 1971 featured the terms progressive country and progressive bluegrass. Kris Kristofferson's album 'The Silver Tongued Devil and I' was progressive country which almost immediately was termed outlaw country. John Hartford's album 'Aereo-Plain' went from being called progressive bluegrass to newgrass. Both albums are classics!
jp brilliant as usual
Ty Shane!
You are so right about how ELP pushed progressive rock, Lucky Man was the first song played in the radio where the Moog was used a soloist instrument, before ELP the moog had been used but as a blending, harmonizing, effect instrument. Lucky Man brought out the Moog Synth to the front of the band. Another great thing about this first album is that each one contributed to the song writing Tank is Palmer's composition, Take a Pebble is mostly Lake and Emerson, The Barbarian is all Emerson, Lucky Man is Lake. Just an amazing way to feature the talents of the first Super Group of the Prog Era... each of them being already stars in their own right from Previous groups.. Emerson with The Nice ( a group you should explore), Lake from King Crimson, and Palmer from Atomic Rooster and Crazy world of Arthur Brown.
A showcase of CP's immense talent (and the other two are pretty good too lol). Realize that he was just 20 years old when this was released. 20.
Always found this song interesting, due to Carl taking over this song.
When Keith and Greg enter, the impact is immense imho. ❤️
It's got a very hard edge to this opus. Tank.. Tarkus the Tank? 😊 Wonder if the the titles are linked.. Hmm.
Love the review once again Justin. 👍
Oh, and Carl's cymbal work is just sublime,period.
This album left its mark big time. Just amazing work by ELP imho. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
FYI
Greg is primarily a guitarist, bass was his second instrument
Carl was highly influenced by Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich
Hey Justin My Man!!! I have to tell you: I just love it when your SO SPOT ON that you leave me almost speechless!!! AMAZING BREAKDOWN HERE!! The one word that captured me here is EMOTION!! Another of my musical regrets of the 70s is never seeing them in person!😭 But from what I've seen on RUclips they all play with such emotion!!! Always smiling and enjoying playing and like you mentioned: sometimes challenging each other it appears!! Yes as far as talent: WOW! I myself would love to know how these wonderful musicians are ranked amongst their piers!! Why don't we start with your channel!! Alright people: whos better?- EMERSON OR WAKEMAN? SQUIRE OR LAKE? PALMER OR PEART??!! Maybe that one's too easy!! Anybody else out there with another list against ELP? So I have a couple of new requests and a question for you JUSTIN! Since your in the early 70s how about a great song from someone I have seen in the recent few years back: MELANIE! With a wonderful AMAZING cover of a Rolling Stones song: RUBY TUESDAY!!! It's just AWESOME! She played at WOODSTOCK you know! Got my picture taken with her in COTTONWOOD AZ about 5-6yrs ago!! #2 is my favorite band right now: RIVER WHYLESS!- they're from North Carolina and have been described as PROG- FOLK!! I love them and have seen them numerous times out here in the past 3yrs!! My song from them is: BORN IN THE RIGHT COUNTRY!! I think people will really enjoy them!!! So my question to you is: I know you mentioned that you don't play live music on your channel. Does that include Live Studio Performances?? The reason I'm asking is because some of RIVER WHYLESS songs sound much better in the studio then the LP version!! Would appreciate if you did an AUDIOTREE VERSION OF THEIR SONG: STONE!!! It's AMAZING!!!! TOTAL PROG-FOLK TO THE MAX!!! REALLY COOL 8MIN SONG!!! Okay that's all I got for today!! But as always don't forget-GRACE DARLING!! Have a great day everyone!! Your #1 AZ FAN MICHAEL😸🙀😊😊
Michael, a poll of that came out in the last year or two ranking keyboardists had Keith Emerson #1 and Rick Wakeman # 2 of all time. Rolling Stone Magazine didn't even include Carl Palmer in the top 100 drummers -- which is totally ridiculous.
THIS is why I Subscribed to you JP! Your take on that drum solo transition back to the main musical theme! Clutch! Money! That said, one of the knocks on this band back in the day that I am hearing from Reactors today, is that the band as a whole is too cerebral and hard to listen to at times. Each member was a virtuoso so you had that element of showcasing raw talent vs. focusing on musical theme. But you have to keep mining because there are so many gems to be found in their body of work. Can’t wait for Lucky Man!
Ty Glenn! I'll absolutely keep mining away!
Love it. The gongs seem a little bit clumy, but the rest of the track is ace. One of my favourite's on the album. Love the phasing and the synths.
Hey JP great reaction/review as always;today's my birthday (July 29) and I have a request; I know you were a bit indifferent to The Band, but I'd love to see you react to either The Night they drove old Dixie down or Ophelia , the concert videos from The Last Waltz...Cheers !!!!
Cool! You caught the cool transition back into the song. Nice review. It’s a shame we can’t see your reactions in real time though. Maybe you could edit them back in to your review. You know. The raised eyebrows. The finger pointing. The facial expressions. Those are fun to see.
Ty MV, I'll definitely consider that for the future
YES the transition is awesome with the flanging! I loved this particular drum solo, but have to agree that if was about 2/3s the length that would be better. I like the cymbal work.
And with phones on it feels like the flanging is going through the middle of your head!
Actually this track was recorded quadrophonically, so that if one is listening to it instead of the drums sliding back and forth between the speakers/headphones it circles--i.e. front left, back left, back right, front right, front left, etc.
Thanks for the response! Who do you think is better? Chris Squire or Greg Lake?
@@michaelkolb5900 I have a very soft spot for ELP. They are my favorite group besides the Beatles (which I grew up on so I'm showing my age I guess). I probably own most of ELP's albums. Greg Lake wrote absolutely beautiful songs and has the wonderful ability to sing like an angel or sing it down and dirty. He can also play both electric and acoustic guitar as well as bass. So I feel he was very talented. I like Yes and have listened to them a decent amount, but they weren't really my thing. I do not own any of their albums so there's a lot they do that I'm not all that familiar with. However, I can definitely appreciate the fine musicianship of their members. Have you heard the live symphonic version of And You and I?
@@ethelynchristopher6995 absolutely!! Yes is my favorite band!! I've seen them 8 times in my life!! I'm 61yrs old! I'm kinda surprised your not a big fan!! Usually people our age who are prog fans love a of it!! I just recently watched ELP LIVE TOLLWOOD FESTIVAL 1997!! That show is AMAZING!! EMERSONS SOLO AT THE END IS ASTOUNDING!! PROBABLY THE BEST KEYBOARD SOLO IVE EVER SEEN!!! I LOVE GENESIS TOO!! Can't wait till Justin does: THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY!!! My favorite Genesis albumin!! What a classic piece of work!😊😊
@@michaelkolb5900 I never got to see Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Had to settle for Emerson, Lake and Powell (Cosy) as Palmer was with Asia at the time. Still an awesome concert. At one point they cleared the stage and lowered a grand piano from the "rafters'" and Keith sat down all alone and played the most beautiful piece. I had never heard it before and still have no idea what it was.
I really enjoy the first section too. The drum solo is a solo for real drums enthousiasts, (should I say jazz enthousiasts ?) I mean it's a showcase yes but he's also telling a story and it's great, but it's not my style. The end is nice. Can't wait for your review of "Toccata" on Brain Salad Surgery :)
It’s ok, not every song is a winner. Carl’s a bad ass and drum solos were all over in the seventies... thats when the band took a break. Iz fine... In my head I’m hearing “I’ll be there, I’ll be there, I’ll there” , you’ll understand soon Justin. Thx for my morning prog sesh.
Take care everyone, stay strong and masked,
Peace and Music
I think the stereo flanging effect on the drums at the end of the solo could be a tip of the hat to the pioneering use of the same effect on the drums on Hendrix's song "Axis Bold As Love", just before the outro guitar solo. When this music came out, unless someone specifically wanted to hear the drum solo, they would probably be listening to that whole side of the vinyl record, if not both sides. In that context, if it is Carl Palmer's big solo on the album, is it still too long ? And if it is his opportunity to be featured on the album, can you imagine Emerson, who co-wrote the song, telling Palmer it had to be shortened ? Besides being the record buying public's first exposure to what the band members could do, this song would also be a solo spot for Palmer in live performances, and was probably written with that in mind.
Sorry more Genesis: check out the EP "Spot the Pigeon", featuring "Inside and Out" along with "Pigeons" and "Match of the Day". From the Trick... and Wind... era.
IMHO ELP is just searching in this first album. Searching their way. It seems to me they haven't touched the spirit of the band they form. Tarkus is a masterpiece, Brain Salad Surgery is a good one too. There is a whole in these two. But your analyse is great of course. As you said about the drum solo, “showcase” is what I feel for the whole album. Although I like some songs a lot.
Can you please review "O Superman" by Laurie Anderson?
ELP were definitely finding their footing on their debut album which can sound like odds and ends thrown together at times. But again, they were part of the pioneers of progressive rock and electronic music (as you pointed out) and would influence generations of musicians to follow. To hear this kind of music in the rock bin in 1970 was very odd, strange and fresh. I think Carl Palmer was 20 years old when he recorded this! He struck fear into the hearts of young drummers like me everywhere. His technical skill and speed rivaled the great Buddy Rich. JP how do you feel about this drum solo presentation compared to Greenslade's Drum Folk or even Moby Dick (not sure if you've listened to that)?
Try Triumvirat "Illusion on a double dimple","Spartacus",back in the 70's they people called them "the little ELP".
Unlike Yes, ELP injected some humor into their music. You'll get a kick out of 'Jeremy Bender' or 'Benny the Bouncer,' both of whom are very lighthearted. Great review!
Sorry it had to be cut but ELP is the definition of pushing musical boundaries. They throw in some sauce here and there but their bread and butter is pushing the envelope
Did you mean the song has been cut out ? rather than cut up.
Can't you upload your reaction to Vimeo or Dailymotion or something when this happens?
It's weird that despite the obvious following of and adherence to the; Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. You still get your stones busted...
Lake has never received much credit as a bassist because he's considered a guitarist who plays bass.
Also, your link in the description didn't work for me, but I found the song here: ruclips.net/video/ErZBErf6NGI/видео.html
I have a love/hate relationship with ELP. This one is good but not great. Loved the drums/bass...a little undecided about Keyboards. See Ryo Okomoto’s Kamikazie instrumental from SB album X. ruclips.net/video/LLR7d-Jxb7Q/видео.html
Pfft, yeah, 40 years later... Look, I LOVE SB...They are keepers of the prog... And Kamikazie is a great piece...But...it's not in the slightest bit cutting edge. You younger people don't understand what innovative or imaginative means in music...You're stuff is all rehash or replication...In 1970 when ELP came out with their first album IT CHANGED MUSIC, Just like Crimson, Black Sabbath, Yes or Genesis and the Beatles. All of them unique voices...Spocks Beard will stay in their place; basically unheard because; They're in the middle of the class. ELP, et al. are the Valedictorians ...
ROB-IN-PHILLY : I’m 61. I owned this record and Brain Salad Surgery as a kid.
Maybe I’m a Philistine, but I prefer SB’s body of work to ELP’s. I’ve heard most of the great seventies prog. I need something new to me. Modern prog fills that void....Steven Wilson, IQ, Big Big Train, and yes, Spock’s Beard give me the same feelings that those great bands of the seventies did.
@@sidecardog5244 I agree, I guess, at 60, I'm just less emotionally attached to the modern prog bands; but; after 14 years on youtube; I've been introduced to MANY new old prog bands, e.g. Happy the Man, Camel, PFM, etc....As a long time musician, and writer; I enjoy the more analog, and philosophical statements made by groups from those times...
It's good that you're lending an ear to those groups. Adding TOOL ( Tool is kind of a Tweener between both worlds, but MUST be mentioned in any prog discussion...:) )
I've spent most of my life on prog, jazz and classical...Those three genres are 50 lifetimes worth of music ... Good heath and freedom to you and yours!
Starts promisingly and there are two great sections but they can't help themselves with the cheesy show off flourishes. Here they almost get away with it because it carries the song to it's next passage. It has a lovely "Pearl and Dean" vibe.
The worst thing about rock (not Prog in particular) is the solos. Often they are just boring, and exist just to massage the ego of the player. Some are great (Hackett's guitar on Firth) and make the song, but a lot ....meh.
Even though I’m a drummer, I’m not a big fan of drum solos. First listen is interesting, but after that it bores me. Just my opinion.
It's not a "song"...
Hmm?