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  • The Walther HP was the immediate predecessor to the P38 pistol that was adopted into widespread German service. The HP (Heeres Pistole, or Army Pistol) was offered for commercial sale and export by Walther. It was formally adopted by the Swedish army in 1939, but only a small number were shipped before the outbreak of war caused Walther to reprioritize for German military production. A number of HPs were also sold commercially to Austria military men, and those pistols often wound up in German military service after the annexation of Austria.
    When the German military adopted the pistol, it dictated a few minor changes from the standard HP design, and the result became the P38.
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  • @paulfabrique5055
    @paulfabrique5055 8 лет назад +7

    A double stack magazine and an alloy frame away from contemporary pistol design. Yet another example of perfect understanding of what is possible and what is needed.

  • @Drumming-Life
    @Drumming-Life 9 лет назад +12

    I absolutely love your videos! So happy that I found your channel. Cannot get enough of the info and run & gun competitions that you guys produce.

  • @erikbestver6985
    @erikbestver6985 9 лет назад +5

    I'm always impressed by your production quality and eloquence. Thanks!

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234 9 лет назад +5

    Yet another interesting video I always look forward to watching them .

  • @MadMetalShop
    @MadMetalShop 10 лет назад +19

    P-38 is solid I love mine :-D

  • @carstengerm
    @carstengerm 10 лет назад +18

    dear santa...

  • @GrOuNdZeRo7777
    @GrOuNdZeRo7777 10 лет назад +3

    I bought my wife a post war commercially made P38 for her birthday, It was a GI bring back more than likely from when he was stationed in Germany, It is well worn so I'd like to imagine it was carried while he was in Vietnam or something, Pretty interesting since it is stamped P38 rather than P1 and I believe this was sometime before the P1 went into production. I ordered some wood P38 reproduction grip panels for it since the original bakelite grip is not almost completely smooth with only a hint of checkering left.
    I would recommend anyone interested in historic firearms to pick up a P38 or P1 if they ever saw one for a good price, I paid only 400 for mine for a rarely seen variation of a commercial P38...That was in STARK contrast with some P1's I saw for sale at another pawnshop who was asking 900(!) Dollars for a P1!! That is a markup of about 600 dollars.

  • @jamiegeen7170
    @jamiegeen7170 10 лет назад +3

    Nice one!..Thanks for sharing Ian!!..

  • @srvanddt1
    @srvanddt1 10 лет назад +5

    Those grips look exactly like the ones on my P1.

  • @carlnapp8673
    @carlnapp8673 9 лет назад +6

    An other important difference to the P38 was the square-end firing pin. Of course
    the end to towards the Hammer.

    • @simonling6919
      @simonling6919 3 года назад

      can you advise how to loose the HP extractor lock?

  • @NormanMatchem
    @NormanMatchem 9 лет назад +7

    The P38 was indeed very advanced for its day, however the double action trigger pull was quite heavy, and it's remarkably wide for a single stack 9mm. Personally, I prefer the Hi Power (P35), M1911A1, or even the TT33. The TT, while it doesn't feel as good in the hands, was cheaper, thinner, in my experience it's a bit more reliable and robust, not to mention the push-button mag release as apposed to the European style mag release on the P38. Also, the Tokarev, M1911A1, and Hi Power all eject to the right, which is most common, while the P38 ejects to the left.
    One time when I went to the indoor shooting range, a guy couldn't figure out why brass was flying at him from his right, when he asked me about it I told him about my 1943 Walther P38, and we had a laugh. He probably thought someone was tossing them his way just to be a nuisance lol It's a VERY accurate design though, I have reached 50m with it, and at the time I had only been shooting pistols for perhaps 4 years at best. At the same time however, with the Hi Power, I've managed a 4-shot 2.5" group at roughly 10m away. I was shooting at a target that had 3 zombies on it from varying distances. The smallest zombie had a head that was less than an inch wide as I remember.
    My first shot on it (we're talking about going for like a quarter or smaller at 10m here) went about 3" to the left, so I aimed a little right. Closer. A bit farther to the right, closer. Ultimately, the 4 rounds were fired in a nice, straight line, about 2.5" from left to right. If I had 1 or 2 more rounds left, I KNOW I would have gotten that bugger in the head! lol Imagine if I just shot all 4 rounds at the same POA though! It probably would have been a 1" group or smaller! Wasn't even resting the pistol! Focused on the sight picture, focused on EEEAAASING the trigger back, didn't think about the recoil, and I let every shot come to me as a surprise, not anticipating it. Was going for absolute accuracy, and considering, as stated, I was only a gun owner for about 3 years at the time, having fired a pistol for the first time about 4 years prior, I would say those results are VERY good!

    • @NormanMatchem
      @NormanMatchem 9 лет назад +1

      thewhitezombie666 The grip takes practice to get used to, ESPECIALLY if you've been spoiled by the feel of the M1911A1 or CZ75. If you were to get a little TOO excited at the range, and start rapid firing the TT33, ESPECIALLY with the snappy military surplus ammo, it's not exactly unknown for shooters to begin shooting towards the ground due to the vertical nature of the grip.

    • @xl7667
      @xl7667 Год назад

      @@NormanMatchem that’s where they are meant to be used anyway, pointed toward the ground on an indistinct street “escorting” German POWs.

  • @steveweiss3552
    @steveweiss3552 9 лет назад +2

    A friend of mine has a P-38 that his father brought home from WWII. I consider myself a above average pistol shooter (I compete in Bullseye) and I could not hit the broad side of a barn when we fired that pistol at a range of 15 yards.

  • @kevinoliver3083
    @kevinoliver3083 Год назад

    The grips on my toy "Man from UNCLE" P-38, in the 1960s, were the same design. Just in bright red.

  • @sr633
    @sr633 9 лет назад +3

    I collected Lugers and P 38s back when. I mostly ignored the P 38 and now wished I hadn't.

  • @QuantumCat76
    @QuantumCat76 9 лет назад +5

    A friend of mine had a '44 P38, which I found fun to shoot, but really not all that accurate.The gun heavily jumped in your hand. With self-loaded -less than factory load cartrigdes, the recoil reduced, increasing the accuracy.

  • @SA-xf1eb
    @SA-xf1eb 3 года назад +1

    Great history.

  • @srobertweiser
    @srobertweiser 4 года назад +10

    This must be the gun my oldman was telling me about years ago, l remember him specifically mentioning 'H' when talking about a P38 he picked up at a show for peanuts. Apparently, the guy he bought it from had no idea what he had. And, my dad had no idea what he bought until he got it home and looked into it a bit more.
    Unless l am confusing two different stories, or, there is a P38 with a unique firing pin, l coulda swore he told me this particular P38 he bought had an 'H' shaped firing pin. He died four years ago, so l can't ask him. My little brother worked the shows with him and he might remember, but l'd get a hold of my oldman at a seance before my brother answers his phone. lan, if you know, can you clarify? l mean, can you clarify? l am sure you know.

    • @canadianfury3027
      @canadianfury3027 4 года назад +1

      You can email him directly at the forgotten weapons website. He always responds within a day or two.

  • @kontrasttt
    @kontrasttt 9 лет назад +1

    My grandfather has this one!

  • @bellelavictorie61
    @bellelavictorie61 9 лет назад +2

    Deceptively modern looking.

  • @hyperusgudgeym1724
    @hyperusgudgeym1724 6 лет назад +8

    Sold for $978.
    LOL for that gun you could charge atleast 5k upwards, this is such a collectors piece
    cant say i am not happy for the buyer tho :)

    • @fesa_performance9617
      @fesa_performance9617 5 лет назад

      Some People sold normal p38 for this Price...

    • @panierter_luan
      @panierter_luan 4 года назад

      Here in switzerland at my local gunstore they sell a Walther HP (with a new serial number on ther other side of the slide, which they assume is a russian captured pistol) for about 1‘980 Swiss franks which is around 2’023 USD

  • @dbmail545
    @dbmail545 10 лет назад

    So cool and cooler still that you know its story.

  • @IEraiderfan
    @IEraiderfan 10 лет назад

    Good review thanks

  • @itchy108
    @itchy108 9 лет назад +3

    My 1940 0 series p38 has the same black checkered grips

    • @simonling6919
      @simonling6919 3 года назад

      maybe we can trade, mine is WWII style while i am looking for HP checkered grips for my HP

  • @Millz194
    @Millz194 9 лет назад +6

    The HP grip design was re-used in the Walther P1 from what i've seen, no?

  • @Snandra66
    @Snandra66 9 лет назад +4

    Have you ever seen a Lahti-35 pistol?

  • @simonling6919
    @simonling6919 3 года назад +1

    awesome video, much appreciated. wondering if you could tell how to disassemble the extractor lock from the slide, i managed to disassemble my HP slide but hard to tell how to loose the extractor lock, it is different from P38.

  • @salmelakp
    @salmelakp 10 лет назад +2

    After this video take gooooood look at beretta 92

  • @blanbec14
    @blanbec14 5 лет назад

    Kind advice : You may promonce Heers like Hairs. It is not right but closer.

  • @Oblithian
    @Oblithian Год назад

    I assume there is another video with disassembly and that I have already seen it, lol.

  • @DUK3NUK3M1
    @DUK3NUK3M1 10 лет назад +2

    Jeweled engraving? not common to say the least...

  • @scottmacadam6599
    @scottmacadam6599 6 лет назад

    I’d love to see him actually look at the p.38 handgun tbh

    • @twirlipofthemists3201
      @twirlipofthemists3201 6 лет назад

      He did, in another vid. And he also did a developmental series video with a few early versions and precursors.

  • @अतुलकढिखाये

    nice

  • @Terabit3
    @Terabit3 8 лет назад +1

    you said that the walther AP was stood for "army pistole". wouldn't it be WP for " Wehrmacht Pistole"? since the German army was still called the Wehrmacht before Germany was divided into east and west Germany after the war?

    • @Terabit3
      @Terabit3 8 лет назад

      OK. Thanks for clearing that up for me

  • @jimf5489
    @jimf5489 4 года назад

    i like the walther pistols i dont know why, but is the walther p5 a modern pistol of the p38

  • @Pepsiphopia
    @Pepsiphopia 10 лет назад +6

    To bad Sweden didnt get more than 1500. Instead we got the damned m/40.

  • @DudeNumberOnePlus
    @DudeNumberOnePlus 9 лет назад

    I love this pistol since i was ten. Wonder if theres some rationale behind the extractor being on the wrong side, or they just arbitrarily try to do something different.

    • @CPHannigan
      @CPHannigan 9 лет назад

      Is the extractor on the wrong side? Left or right doesn't change much on a self loading pistol, due to the fact that it is held so far from the shooter's face.

    • @corditesniffer8020
      @corditesniffer8020 3 года назад

      Makes the gun very left hand shooter friendly having the cases eject out the left side ;)
      Also heel magazine release further makes this far right authoritarian firearm a lefty friendly shooter

  • @technokaiju5956
    @technokaiju5956 5 лет назад

    Decepticons attack

  • @MadMadCommando
    @MadMadCommando 10 лет назад +1

    Is there any mechanical reason why the P38 is left hand ejecting?

    • @dapa4
      @dapa4 10 лет назад

      location of the extractor.

    • @MadMadCommando
      @MadMadCommando 10 лет назад

      yes, but it didn't have to be that way, unless there is something else in the way. They made a conscious decision to make it eject left, the question is why

    • @breamnaiade1794
      @breamnaiade1794 9 лет назад

      David M. They probably flipped a coin for it. It doesn't matter what side the brass is coming out of with a handgun.

    • @yetanother9127
      @yetanother9127 9 лет назад

      Flutter Shy In that case, it could easily have been upward-ejecting (except for perhaps interfering with the location of the loaded chamber rod). I bet there was some logical reason for it that has been lost to history.

    • @corditesniffer8020
      @corditesniffer8020 3 года назад

      Far right authoritarian government probably wanted a little leftism to counter balance X’D

  • @carlnapp8673
    @carlnapp8673 9 лет назад +8

    For heaven's sake, in German the "th" is pronounced like a "t". So the manufacturer's name is pronounced like the Christian name Walter.

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 9 лет назад +3

      +Carl Napp Or, well, "Valter", since it starts with a W.

    • @carlnapp8673
      @carlnapp8673 9 лет назад +1

      Right so!
      Cheers

    • @paulfabrique5055
      @paulfabrique5055 8 лет назад +1

      not in American it isn't. In English and American "Walther" is pronounced "Walther" and "Porsche" is pronounced "Porsche"...

    • @carlnapp8673
      @carlnapp8673 8 лет назад +3

      Paul Fabrique
      In principle you are right, no doubt.
      But as a man of the world you ought to honour some pecularities of other languages. Notably
      if you use an item from there.
      I thank you for your reply.
      Cheers

    • @paulfabrique5055
      @paulfabrique5055 8 лет назад +3

      +Carl Napp Personally, I find the differences in dialect between say Baden-Wurtemburg or Bavaria and say, Schleswig- Holstein as diverse and different as an English speakers pronunciation of "Walther" or "Heckler and Koch".... the German pronunciation of ", Budweiser" is also funny (the Czech beer). But I never get fucking funny over it. I just enjoy the beer with my German friends. Just like I enjoy these videos with commenting on the utterly irrelevant.

  • @nikv435
    @nikv435 3 года назад

    How much is proximity Walter HP?

  • @Bluetiger457
    @Bluetiger457 10 лет назад +1

    Are you planning on bidding on anything in this upcoming auction?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  10 лет назад +4

      Not in this one - Premier auctions are typically beyond my budget.

  • @nutnfan1
    @nutnfan1 10 лет назад +10

    Say it like "Hair-es Pistole"

  • @SONOFAZOMBIE2025
    @SONOFAZOMBIE2025 10 лет назад

    Hi, the auction guide says _"The barrel and locking block are renumbered to match."_ What does that exactly mean?

    • @GrOuNdZeRo7777
      @GrOuNdZeRo7777 10 лет назад +1

      It means that it has original parts and was not manufactured from spare parts just laying around.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  10 лет назад +3

      Not sure - I didn't take a close look at the numbers, or disassemble this one.

    • @razz339
      @razz339 10 лет назад +5

      To me that means that the locking block and barrel had different serial numbers, then they were "renumbered" so now they both have matching serial numbers.

    • @GrOuNdZeRo7777
      @GrOuNdZeRo7777 9 лет назад

      razz339 Whoops, I read that wrong...
      I thought the usual way they would classify renumbering was force matching...But I guess that doesn't sound as enticing to a potential buyer...

    • @SONOFAZOMBIE2025
      @SONOFAZOMBIE2025 9 лет назад +3

      razz339 i fear that is what it is. If it is, it is very unethical and perhaps illegal. Even mismatched would be much more preferred.

  • @oldsmobile96
    @oldsmobile96 7 лет назад

    why is there someone breathing like that in the vid?

  • @nonameavailable4840
    @nonameavailable4840 10 лет назад

    well your german becomes better and better :D

  • @BrotherhoodOfSpoons
    @BrotherhoodOfSpoons 10 лет назад

    Is there a video on the gun at 0:10 ??

  • @twirlipofthemists3201
    @twirlipofthemists3201 6 лет назад

    $978 seems cheap.

  • @euroweasel1088
    @euroweasel1088 10 лет назад

    9mm Parabellum but .30 Luger...? ;-) The latter was used at least by the Swiss and Finnish armies in their Lugers. Nevertheless, great video as usual!

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 10 лет назад +1

      .30 Luger was also a somewhat popular round in civilian use at the time.

  • @ali_3364
    @ali_3364 4 года назад

    Why so cheap ?