I do want to address the treble energy with the Fermats. I was looking at how Chris’ unit graphed (badguygoodaudioreviews), and comparing it to mine and some others, and it looks like there are some unit variations it seems - 1 out of 4 so far (from my limited knowledge). I personally found my unit’s uppermids/treble to be bright leaning, but not nearly as much as Chris’ graph would suggest, so maybe this is something to watch out for. Ideally I’ll be graphing my sets from now on as Mag is taking a break, but I do still recommend some type of mesh filter with the gold nozzles - I think it sounds the best that way (maybe 500 is too much for most unless you’re blasting like me), anyhow here’s how I’d rank them: (Mid-volume): Tonality: A+/S- (depending on nozzle/filter) Tech: A+ Overall: A+ (High-volume): Tonality: B+/A+ (depending on nozzle/filter) Tech: A+ Overall: A-
@@jayyaudio It could be an artifact of the rather broad resonance peak width, assuming that the used 711 couplers can be considered identical. It seems Aftersound moved it to slightly higher frequency compared to Chris's 8khz positioning (not sure why but everyone can have reasons for this, for instance Michael Bruce decreases cavity volume and places the IEM extremely close to the mic in order to eliminate the peak itself). Hence, it might be more correct to deduct the peak by eye and compare, although this will still need actual testing by ear as some IEMs have components of actual peak (e.g. Moondrop S8) under the coupler peak. I have never measured this so I cannot be sure, but some big DD IEMs show multiple coupler resonances as well (not only the usual 8khz suspect). The most notorious example will be Sony EXK. If you see a 711 graph, there will be numerous narrow peaks starting from 5.7khz region. Among them the 5.7khz is the only relevant peak and the rest are dependent on the insertion depth, kinda like the treble of Z1R people often discuss. I wonder if that could result in the near-air region difference between the EA1000 graphs. This raises a personal curiosity of mine if EA1000 might be a bit fit dependent as well although it doesn't seem like a spike festival like some Sonys. My guess is that just looking at the graph, it is hard to determine at this point. If we translate the 8k and the last peak from Chris's graph slightly above, I think it may reasonably match with Aftersounds. When it comes to DDs, the significant differences are usually seen in below 1khz region, usually with the implementation quality of the venting as the major factor. A good example can be Tin Hifi type of shells, where components are assembled on a ring and sandwiched between the nozzle and backplait. If there happen to be a discrepancy there, a gap or screw force difference, well that's a QC issue (Regarding the assembly method, the only high-rate possiblity failing point for EA1000 seems to be the nozzle attachment). At least in this department, the two graphs do not seem far apart. (The only time I had trouble with treble was JVC FD01. Not only that one of the rotating shell was loose resulting in
@@newkymThat makes sense! Good reminder for me when I start graphing heh, and Glad you enjoyed the vid - I’m also hoping there we’ll be uniquely tuned IEMs soon
Getting IEMs in this price category gives you immense buyer's remorse lol .. At the same time, it's nice that great sounding IEMs are becoming more available to the masses.
To be fair I bought my 7hz Timeless for under £200 and haven't ever regretted getting them since I got them! I have tried any SIMgots yet. Maybe this one...
Looks like I need to get my wallet out. Simgot is knocking it out of the park. I put a #400 filter on my ea500 and my EM6L. Works great for me. Excellent review. Kudos.
Love a good single dd, but I haven’t heard any pr yet. Em6l is my favorite simgot by far so far, very interested in this. Love everything they threw out this year.
I just got these today and they are fantastic. I didn't have a lot of time when I unwrapped them, so I decided to listen to a song or two to test them out. I lost track of time and I had listened to a whole album before I knew it. They sounded great out of the box with fantastic details, and I've still got the filters to experiment with. No QC issues that I can notice on mine, but I just got them so I haven't had much time to really test them. I don't listen to EDM or metal, so I can't speak to their performance for those genres, but for rock they are great.
Hi i have the kit mod for this iem. you said that golden nozzle+500 mesh has the best sound...my question is: do i have to remove the original filter on the golden nozzle and then replace with the mesh 500? Is the first time for me...what are the instructions?
Nice review as usual! I'm sure this sounds awesome, but I'm happy enough with EA500. Plus, I have a personal rule not to spend above 150 on a pair of IEM. My most expensive pair so far is P1MAX. It's not that I can't afford it, I just don't want to spend that much on IEM. I prefer to buy a pair of boots if I had 200. 😁
Jay i have found that i am more broke than what i had thought ,so what think is best iem around 80$ and should i wait for black friday for better deals to come?
As I was afraid, too much upper mids and treble. Lowering upper mids by 2-3 db would eliminate the need to adjust volume as much. With removal nozzles will be easy to retune. Is the stage better than EA500?
Thank you for making this reviews! We are all making decisions at your own expense and we appreciate it, since crin dropped the bal and no longer makes iem reviews. Thx!
Would these be a good upgrade from tanchjim one. I really love the low end on the tanchjim and it graphs similar on that part. I cant find iems with similar bass and warmth at this price point lol
Amazing review as always, back with the same question, i already have the mangird top (if you remember :P bought after watching your video), do you think the simgot ea 1000 is still a good purchase? would it be a downgrade to that or is it tuned differently enough to have both in the collection?! Thank you for the wonderful review
I have tried Shuiyueyu Blessing 3 and Kato offline. I prefer the low frequency of Kato, but Blessing 3 in other aspects. Due to price considerations, I prefer Xingge EA1000, but there is no one I can try here. What I want to ask is, among the many headphones you have heard, are there any that have a cavity made entirely of 3D printed resin, but the tuning and price are the same as those of the Xinge EA1000?
What do you think would be better between this and the Kiwi Quintet for things like movie and tv soundtracks? Curious between the two, or any other recs in the price range (~200-300)?
interesting. any details why? I was a bit unsure about the size of those so I was wondering which might be better of the Quintet and EA1000 @@jayyaudio
I can respect Simgot in the regard that they tend to aim for detail at multiple price points, but with how they graph it just seems the upper mids and treble would murder my ears personally and theres never enough bass to justify itt. Until they make something with a signature akin to the CCA CRAs (before the stealth revision) i don't think id ever get a set from them.
It's not actually that bright - I think it's just Chris' graph. Tonedeafmonk and Aftersound's squigs are closer to what I'm hearing. It's like a Crin Red but with a little more.
@@jayyaudio OK thank you for the information, in my country Truthear Nova is only $100 much cheaper than Gizaudio CHOPIN ($200). So I will buy Trutheat Nova. Thank you again.
hi, i was wondering what the little orings do, are they the mesh filters? new to iems, trying these with the gold nozzles and they are shockingly good, coming from a Focal Clear MG.
I have hexa and 1000xm5. Want to try something new, will it be a good upgrade as something new in terms of tuning? Fermat name itself is very tempting for me being a mathematician.
I prefer the slow raise after 1khz with pick at 3khz not earlier.Variations have better upper mids.I would like to see a Galileo with a tad better bass and air I think it would sould good
@@jayyaudio How do the ea1000 and the heyday compare in instrument separation, congestion in busy tracks, and dynamic range? And which one is better suited for treble sensitive, e.g. how good can you eq down treble?
No I never tried doing that. Any tips or filters you know of? I'm currently using the Dunu S&S tips which helped a lot with the seal and bass punch but still want more.@@Hijynx87
Oh Yes I've read about it on reddit, but I only fear of it not sounding natural after that. But no loss in trying though. Thanks for the suggestion.@@GarethHailes
Interesting IEM... How do they perform for gaming purposes? As always a great review and some valuable opinions/views about the competition in their price category. Keep up the good work.
The guy says there is a lot good bass, but the graph and the measurements say different. Should I believe this guy's ears or science and the way more accurate measuring devices? I wonder... Yeah, no... Also, I'm pretty sure this amount of treble will take your life. Seriously...
Good bass doesn’t mean a lot of bass lol. I said the bass texture is good not the amount. The treble can be bright like I said in the review. Actually listen please lmao
I do want to address the treble energy with the Fermats. I was looking at how Chris’ unit graphed (badguygoodaudioreviews), and comparing it to mine and some others, and it looks like there are some unit variations it seems - 1 out of 4 so far (from my limited knowledge). I personally found my unit’s uppermids/treble to be bright leaning, but not nearly as much as Chris’ graph would suggest, so maybe this is something to watch out for. Ideally I’ll be graphing my sets from now on as Mag is taking a break, but I do still recommend some type of mesh filter with the gold nozzles - I think it sounds the best that way (maybe 500 is too much for most unless you’re blasting like me), anyhow here’s how I’d rank them:
(Mid-volume):
Tonality: A+/S- (depending on nozzle/filter)
Tech: A+
Overall: A+
(High-volume):
Tonality: B+/A+ (depending on nozzle/filter)
Tech: A+
Overall: A-
Oh man, QC issues have been hitting Chifi hard lately.
@@StarBuccaneers168 Let's just hope it's Chris' set LOL
@@jayyaudio It could be an artifact of the rather broad resonance peak width, assuming that the used 711 couplers can be considered identical. It seems Aftersound moved it to slightly higher frequency compared to Chris's 8khz positioning (not sure why but everyone can have reasons for this, for instance Michael Bruce decreases cavity volume and places the IEM extremely close to the mic in order to eliminate the peak itself). Hence, it might be more correct to deduct the peak by eye and compare, although this will still need actual testing by ear as some IEMs have components of actual peak (e.g. Moondrop S8) under the coupler peak.
I have never measured this so I cannot be sure, but some big DD IEMs show multiple coupler resonances as well (not only the usual 8khz suspect). The most notorious example will be Sony EXK. If you see a 711 graph, there will be numerous narrow peaks starting from 5.7khz region. Among them the 5.7khz is the only relevant peak and the rest are dependent on the insertion depth, kinda like the treble of Z1R people often discuss. I wonder if that could result in the near-air region difference between the EA1000 graphs. This raises a personal curiosity of mine if EA1000 might be a bit fit dependent as well although it doesn't seem like a spike festival like some Sonys.
My guess is that just looking at the graph, it is hard to determine at this point. If we translate the 8k and the last peak from Chris's graph slightly above, I think it may reasonably match with Aftersounds.
When it comes to DDs, the significant differences are usually seen in below 1khz region, usually with the implementation quality of the venting as the major factor. A good example can be Tin Hifi type of shells, where components are assembled on a ring and sandwiched between the nozzle and backplait. If there happen to be a discrepancy there, a gap or screw force difference, well that's a QC issue (Regarding the assembly method, the only high-rate possiblity failing point for EA1000 seems to be the nozzle attachment). At least in this department, the two graphs do not seem far apart.
(The only time I had trouble with treble was JVC FD01. Not only that one of the rotating shell was loose resulting in
@@newkymThat makes sense! Good reminder for me when I start graphing heh, and Glad you enjoyed the vid - I’m also hoping there we’ll be uniquely tuned IEMs soon
@@jayyaudio what do you think i should get for gaming em6ls or ea1000, im not an audiophile so i dont really know much
Getting IEMs in this price category gives you immense buyer's remorse lol .. At the same time, it's nice that great sounding IEMs are becoming more available to the masses.
Haha true
Chopin
To be fair I bought my 7hz Timeless for under £200 and haven't ever regretted getting them since I got them!
I have tried any SIMgots yet. Maybe this one...
My guy! Love hearing good stuff reaching the masses at doable (ish) prices! Looking forward to the upcoming comparisons!
Helllll yeah man SIMGOT just don’t miss
I just got the EW200 like the day before yesterday and I'm loving it. This EA1000 looks clean.
Thanks for the vid, Jay - these seem to be killers and the new benchmark around $200. Lovely stuff from Simgot!
Yup SIMGOT back with another banger
Looks like I need to get my wallet out. Simgot is knocking it out of the park. I put a #400 filter on my ea500 and my EM6L. Works great for me. Excellent review. Kudos.
Thank you man~ You'll like these
Love a good single dd, but I haven’t heard any pr yet. Em6l is my favorite simgot by far so far, very interested in this. Love everything they threw out this year.
DD Supremacy
How does it stack up with dunu falcon ultra though? That’s a good comparison I’d think.
I just got these today and they are fantastic. I didn't have a lot of time when I unwrapped them, so I decided to listen to a song or two to test them out. I lost track of time and I had listened to a whole album before I knew it. They sounded great out of the box with fantastic details, and I've still got the filters to experiment with. No QC issues that I can notice on mine, but I just got them so I haven't had much time to really test them. I don't listen to EDM or metal, so I can't speak to their performance for those genres, but for rock they are great.
Enjoy~
Simgot's design is top notch. Maybe I'll own a Simgot one day. Thanks for the review!
Np! and agreeeed
How does it compare with the original Tanchjim Oxygen, Jay? Can buy the Oxygen on sale now for $200 USD... Thanks for your advice! 😃🎶🎵
This is better 👍
Hi i have the kit mod for this iem. you said that golden nozzle+500 mesh has the best sound...my question is: do i have to remove the original filter on the golden nozzle and then replace with the mesh 500? Is the first time for me...what are the instructions?
No just put it on top of the nozzle. 500mesh + Gold is only for high volume listening. If you listen at a regular volume try 300 mesh
Nice review as usual!
I'm sure this sounds awesome, but I'm happy enough with EA500. Plus, I have a personal rule not to spend above 150 on a pair of IEM. My most expensive pair so far is P1MAX. It's not that I can't afford it, I just don't want to spend that much on IEM. I prefer to buy a pair of boots if I had 200. 😁
I feel you, smart man 😂
Well, you covered all the bases. Thanks!
Np. Glad it was helpful!
Dang Simgot back at it again
dont you have also another channel?
This is what I call a worthy upgrade to the Olina se. Impressive.
Awesome review as always 👍
I'd like to know how is ikko oh10 compared to celest phoenixcall?
Thanks man~
Haven’t heard phoenix, sorry!
I was pretty sure about get the Hype 2 this 11:11, now with this I'm not sure. Wich would be better?
Hype 2 is the better all-rounder with more bass, but I like this one better for slower songs
Mmm. Great. Can always add a sponge filter to taime the treble with the nozzle
Yup
Jay i have found that i am more broke than what i had thought ,so what think is best iem around 80$ and should i wait for black friday for better deals to come?
Save up for EM6L
Between ea 1000 and the kiwi ears quintet, which one has more micro details and better soundstage.
Quintet has more detail, stage is similar
@@jayyaudio thanks for the answer
How does it stack up against the Xenns Top? Great review!
I like it more with the gold nozzle+500 mesh, but TOP is more flexible and has better detail
Thank you!@@jayyaudio
As I was afraid, too much upper mids and treble. Lowering upper mids by 2-3 db would eliminate the need to adjust volume as much. With removal nozzles will be easy to retune. Is the stage better than EA500?
Yup. Gold nozzle+400/500 mesh is great if it's too bright
Thank you for making this reviews! We are all making decisions at your own expense and we appreciate it, since crin dropped the bal and no longer makes iem reviews. Thx!
Np glad I can help
TThis has been Simgot's year
Facts
Would these be a good upgrade from tanchjim one. I really love the low end on the tanchjim and it graphs similar on that part. I cant find iems with similar bass and warmth at this price point lol
Yup, but just a heads up the treble will be a lot more
Amazing review as always, back with the same question, i already have the mangird top (if you remember :P bought after watching your video), do you think the simgot ea 1000 is still a good purchase? would it be a downgrade to that or is it tuned differently enough to have both in the collection?!
Thank you for the wonderful review
It’s different enough imo, but something more different would be the EPZ 620 or SIVGA Nightingale (wait for video on it tomorrow)
Hi Jay. Would you reco getting the ea1000 over the Chopin if EDM, dance/electronic, vocal trance and vocal ballads form the bulk of my library?
Probably the chopin more sub-bass for edm
I have tried Shuiyueyu Blessing 3 and Kato offline. I prefer the low frequency of Kato, but Blessing 3 in other aspects. Due to price considerations, I prefer Xingge EA1000, but there is no one I can try here. What I want to ask is, among the many headphones you have heard, are there any that have a cavity made entirely of 3D printed resin, but the tuning and price are the same as those of the Xinge EA1000?
not that I know of, most are metal
What do you think would be better between this and the Kiwi Quintet for things like movie and tv soundtracks? Curious between the two, or any other recs in the price range (~200-300)?
Thieaudio Hype 2
interesting. any details why? I was a bit unsure about the size of those so I was wondering which might be better of the Quintet and EA1000 @@jayyaudio
Would these sound good with rock, punk and jazz music?
Yes at mid volume, anything higher use a filter 👍
I can respect Simgot in the regard that they tend to aim for detail at multiple price points, but with how they graph it just seems the upper mids and treble would murder my ears personally and theres never enough bass to justify itt. Until they make something with a signature akin to the CCA CRAs (before the stealth revision) i don't think id ever get a set from them.
It's not actually that bright - I think it's just Chris' graph. Tonedeafmonk and Aftersound's squigs are closer to what I'm hearing. It's like a Crin Red but with a little more.
EM6L is wayyyyy more relaxed.
Can you reccoment Foam tip for Trutheat Nova?
Do you think Truthear Nova is the best IEM under $200?
Any will work depending on your own ear size. I like Chopin better, but Nova would be #2
@@jayyaudio OK thank you for the information, in my country Truthear Nova is only $100 much cheaper than Gizaudio CHOPIN ($200). So I will buy Trutheat Nova. Thank you again.
Man, what's the very best you ever heard for rock?
Letshuoer Cadenza 12 LOL
@@jayyaudio Do they take kidneys for payment? 😂
These or the P8s for vocal centric songs? I also found a used P8 for around $20 more than the EA1000, so I'm real torn between the two.
EA1000 is better - vocals aren’t fully extended on the P8 because the gain is reduced
@@jayyaudio Interesting, I'm curious to know how it compares to the P8 in terms of resolution too if you don't mind me asking?
Great review. 🎉
This or the tea 2 if both same price 200? And also for vocals . Female and anime also .?
EA1000, with 500 tuning mesh filters if it's too bright (search on aliexpress)
So is better for vocals than tea 2 that's impressive 👏 .
Thank you I already have the 300 and 500 mesh
are the extra nozzles they give, add or change the overral sq of it?
More bass, more treble, more gain are the 3 options
Could we get the Chopin, Quintet comp with this?…
Check the ranking list, EA1000->Chopin->Quintet for me they’re all around the same tech. EA1000 most natural, Chopin best all rounder.
hi, i was wondering what the little orings do, are they the mesh filters? new to iems, trying these with the gold nozzles and they are shockingly good, coming from a Focal Clear MG.
The rings changes the sound a bit, but mesh filters and sponges have more of an effect
link for black tuning filter and which 500 mesh filter mm thickness?
4.5MM www.aliexpress.us/item/1005002875037663.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
Jay do you still think that the kiwi ears quartet are the best all arounder?
Nah, for bass sure, but at around $100 that’d be the SIMGOT EM6L, $200 Chopin, $300 Hype 2, under $1K Xenns TOP
@@jayyaudio But strictly undet 100 it is the best?
I have hexa and 1000xm5. Want to try something new, will it be a good upgrade as something new in terms of tuning? Fermat name itself is very tempting for me being a mathematician.
Get the EA500LM (comes out soon), the Fermat is brighter
@@jayyaudio Thank you, will wait for review 😁. Kudos for your epic work 👏
Finnally a set worth buying. Love your videos man
Np man - glad you’re enjoying them!
I prefer the slow raise after 1khz with pick at 3khz not earlier.Variations have better upper mids.I would like to see a Galileo with a tad better bass and air I think it would sould good
Variations have smoother uppermids yes, better? Idk, but ya l, agreed with the Galileo
@@jayyaudio Gentle tunning is less wow but often is the one you keep listening or not selling 😉
Was really hoping the comparison between thieaudio hype 2 and ea1000
Hype 2 better all rounder and funner bass. EA1000 is more neutral and balanced.
@@jayyaudio thanks for letting me know
Compared to Chopin?
Next week - don't have yet
If im willing to do some tuning are these still the best pick at 200$ or would something like the heyday be better?
These have better bass texture and timbre for me
@@jayyaudio How do the ea1000 and the heyday compare in instrument separation, congestion in busy tracks, and dynamic range? And which one is better suited for treble sensitive, e.g. how good can you eq down treble?
c'mon Simgot..give us something like this but with a 3-5+db bass boost
Exactly. I love the EA500 but always crave for a little more bass. The EA1000 could be my next iem if it had bass quantity with quality.
@@Nick_in_the_6ixever mod your ea500?
No I never tried doing that. Any tips or filters you know of? I'm currently using the Dunu S&S tips which helped a lot with the seal and bass punch but still want more.@@Hijynx87
@@Nick_in_the_6ixpeople put tape over the air vent to increase the bass
Oh Yes I've read about it on reddit, but I only fear of it not sounding natural after that. But no loss in trying though. Thanks for the suggestion.@@GarethHailes
My only iems are the Hype 4 and i got about 200 dollars in Amazon credit would these be a good different iem? I mostly listen to rock and metal.
These are different, but I wouldn’t say they’re ideal for rock since it’s brighter
@@jayyaudio what about the heyday planars? I really love the look of them.
Interesting IEM... How do they perform for gaming purposes?
As always a great review and some valuable opinions/views about the competition in their price category. Keep up the good work.
Haven't tested much but so far so good - and thank you~
Some pro/streamers use wired apples earbuds if you play your game enough you get used to what to listen for
@@LateBandwagonnah. You need good imaging when playing stuff like fps. Apple buds ain't it.
How does this compare to the original s12?
Better noteweight, more natural vocals, not as sharp, better bass texture
Hey man i wanted to ask do you use any software or external components to allow the best sound for your iem's or do you just plug and play?
The amp/dac I use is the Topping G5
@@jayyaudio okay thanks, I’m planning on maybe getting a schiit fulla dac/amp.
if this is brighter than ea500 , then this is too bright for me .
Fuck do I buy this or tengzu heyday
This
I already have hype 2 jay.. So i need this one too?
Nah you’re good save up for something better
@@jayyaudio thx mate
Ea1000 vs falcon ultra?
Haven’t heard sorry
This or studio 4, ignoring price?
This has better bass, but everything else studio 4
Is EA2000 clearly better for another $100?
Haven't heard sorry
no, it's ea1000 predecessor. they said it in their website
A or B tier for vocal?
A, at mid volume
weight compare ea500?
Similar, fit as well
Waiting for Chopin.
So, mainstream pop and edm still better on quintet than this?
Ya
is this good for gaming?
Yes
is this better than the em6l for gaming?
@@jayyaudio
I was trying to take your opinion seriously, but then 1:01 happened
😂
👀
The guy says there is a lot good bass, but the graph and the measurements say different. Should I believe this guy's ears or science and the way more accurate measuring devices? I wonder... Yeah, no... Also, I'm pretty sure this amount of treble will take your life. Seriously...
Good bass doesn’t mean a lot of bass lol. I said the bass texture is good not the amount. The treble can be bright like I said in the review. Actually listen please lmao
How about Ea1000 vs Ea2000, Is it worth to pay more for Ea2000?
EA2000 sounds sharper, but I’d still take the EA1000
em6l vs this ? gaming/music/youtube
This
@@jayyaudio can you open it briefly
Nice and brief. 🫰
New $200 King?
Thank you 🫶
For my library ya