@@patrick_nilan The goal is just to write 100k words in the months of October, November, and December! Honestly I think it'll be easier because it's only around 1,000 words per day. You should join if you don't end up doing something else!!
@@patrick_nilan write 100K in the last three months of the year. I want to do this so bad because I want more than a month, but three becomes too much time and I will procrastinate. However it is only 1100 words a day which I find very doable. So maybe I will think on it; and frame it by the word count rather than the time frame.
First off, I am gladd that you made this post. I have been saying that I am not afraid of the word Nano. Because Nano is more than the organization. Nano is an event and I love the event. The organization can go suck eggs. I do plan on writing during the month of November. And I will likely say I am doing Nano the event. But I am also excited that there are other events that are coming out. Like Heart Breathings' Rough Draft Challenge. Or even more simply 50K in 30 Days. Now I am excited that there are new challenges coming out, that may be more accessible or reasonable to do. And if these new challenges and events look at the cons of Nano the event and work on improving them, so much better. I think that many people would agree that Nano has focused on Quantity rather than Quality. And that while for most people 1700 words per day may be reasonable if you miss a day it can quickly become unreachable. So I would like to see a longer challenge (maybe six or eight weeks) or something like 60K in 60 days. Which would make the daily goal lower so you could schedule days off or just have a lower daily goal so if you miss it is easier to recoup. And if the organization decides they want to regroup, reformat and refocus, I hope that they look at their weaknesses and also add events for editing, not just getting that first draft. (Granted I do agree with the original premise of get the words down because you cannot edit a blank page.) It is just that writing a book is more than just writing a rough draft or 50K, which is not a novel anyway. As for what I am doing. I have an idea of what I plan on doing. If anything I think it would fit mostly with the Heart Breathings' Rough Draft Challenge. Because I am not starting a new project but rather completing the story I started last year for Nano (the event). I did not get it finished and my goal is to finish it. I think I have between 20K and 50K to write a complete story. So in the next few days I am going to be looking over what I already wrote and then when most of though challenges start I plan on writing new words from where I left off. I want to have a complete draft by the end of November. But it may not be a full 50K since I already started the story. I would be a Nano Rebel if I was following along with the organization and this fits what I want to work on. I am looking forward to seeing what activities come out over the course of the next year and a half. I think many people will actually be doing a version of nano the event this year, just because there was six weeks to change gears. And that may not be enough time to really plan a new event and promote it. Because that was one thing that Nano the organization really had going for it, longevity of the event.
This was going to be my first one I was planning on doing. After hearing about the controversies it kinda killed some of the motivation but still wanted to write. So now a buddy and I are going to try writing all month together and just see how far we go. Crunch time to get 50k words I know is a big part of it, but having a kid now I have a lot less time and going at a slower pace with one of my friends sounds like an enjoyable time which could help me get better writing time management moving forward out of November.
@@patrick_nilan Oh I'm 100% for completely new challenges that don't feel compelled to ride NaNoWriMo's coattails That being said there will always be people who want to specifically do NaNoWriMo because of how big and influential it was, if changing the name slightly to distance from the organization makes them feel better while doing it then I mean why not? But I am for being free of NaNoWriMo's stranglehold on writing challanges. I'm actually in the game dev sphere of things but even that has seen NaNoWriMo's influence, game jams are pretty popular in general and have so much diversity but yet a few of the writing centric ones still feel the need market themselves as "NaNoWriMo but visual novels" which has always felt weird to me when game jams are already an established thing that can stand on their own
I personally do not like the idea of playing with the name. Though I also have no problem with people saying they are doing Nano, the event, because the event is 50K in 30 days and it predated the organization. Saying you are doing Nano isn't bad, it is the organization that sucks.
I'm not participating in NaNoWriMo, but instead I've set up a new event with one of my best writing friends: The Golden Quill Month, in which the progress of ALL parts of the writing process are front and center. So, if you want to write lore or build your world, work on characters, art, maps, storylines, it's all welcome in this event. Just not Generative AI. :D We always felt NaNoWriMo was a fun challenge, but just not that quite fitting for us. With this new event we still work on our writing projects, but all milestones count, instead of only word count goals. Enjoy whichever one you choose! I wish you a lot of fun writing!
I'm not going to personally. It's difficult enough as a male romantacy author as it is. I'm not about supporting AI nonsense that has already infiltrated the genre. I'll just keep writing as usual! Cheers fam!
@@patrick_nilan From my perspective, it has. But my opinion is mostly just based on the quality of content(and mostly in the indie space). I can not say for certain. It's hard to know for sure within a genre that is so heavily gatekept against male authors. I'm just speaking for myself, so take it with a grain of salt. Love your videos. Write on!
Lmao i havent done nanowrimo in 6 years, then it came to my mind and looked it up to see if it still exists only to find a dumpster on fire like what the hell???? Holdup is that an isles banner tho?
NaNoWriMo is fun I'm going to participate in it . honestly I don't care about the AI thing was it stupid for NaNoWiMo to do it yes but I have better thing to do than try to stop people from using AI honestly some people were going to it any way its best to ignore them.
AI is just a tool, and tools are neither ethical nor unethical. It's the way that a person uses the tool that determines the ethics. If you are having AI write your novel, then yeah, there's a big problem there as you're probably violating copyright like crazy if you aren't significantly editing everything it gives you. Of course, you should be doing serious editing anyway. I don't know about you, but in the decades that I've been writing, I've never had a first draft that I looked at and thought "Wow, that's great. Publish it!" I'm not advocating using AI in writing. I'm simply saying that there's nothing inherently wrong with it, even though the tool itself came from unethical means. A farmer that uses a weapon of war to till his field isn't unethical simply because he's using the weapon. Writing is the smallest, and arguably least important part of writing a compelling novel. A great book comes from editing, not writing. Unfortunately, we have RUclipsr's using get rich quick clickbait to get views. Those RUclipsr's promise wealth if you use AI to write your novels for you. The truth is that the writing space is already enormously overcrowded. It's hard for even a legitimate author to find an audience. If you come in with a 100% AI written pile of garbage, you won't make anything, and you'll be doing the readers a disservice because AI is inaccurate.
@@patrick_nilan I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think enough has been done to make recompense. It's sad that only the big companies like NYT were able to secure a payment. I don't want anyone to misconstrue my comments as supporting what the AI companies did. That's horrendous, and honestly they should be sued into oblivion. The sad truth is that many of the inventions we have today came from unscrupulous business practices. Tesla is the real genius behind a huge number of inventions we use every day, but Edison was the unscrupulous businessman that made them public and made all the money off of them, and he's the one in the history books. We don't stop using those tools though.
I'm doing NaNoWriMo this year as always. I love the challenge. I will use the NaNoWriMo website tracker and perhaps some trackers from some of the new challenges, because most of my NaNo writing buddies decided to left. That's totally OK. I know about NaNo "controversy" and decaded to stay. Thank you for this video Patrick 👍
I'm going to participate in Kate Cavanaugh's 100k in Q4 challenge!!
Ooh, how does that challenge work?
@@patrick_nilan The goal is just to write 100k words in the months of October, November, and December! Honestly I think it'll be easier because it's only around 1,000 words per day. You should join if you don't end up doing something else!!
@@patrick_nilan write 100K in the last three months of the year. I want to do this so bad because I want more than a month, but three becomes too much time and I will procrastinate. However it is only 1100 words a day which I find very doable. So maybe I will think on it; and frame it by the word count rather than the time frame.
First off, I am gladd that you made this post. I have been saying that I am not afraid of the word Nano. Because Nano is more than the organization. Nano is an event and I love the event. The organization can go suck eggs.
I do plan on writing during the month of November. And I will likely say I am doing Nano the event. But I am also excited that there are other events that are coming out. Like Heart Breathings' Rough Draft Challenge. Or even more simply 50K in 30 Days.
Now I am excited that there are new challenges coming out, that may be more accessible or reasonable to do. And if these new challenges and events look at the cons of Nano the event and work on improving them, so much better.
I think that many people would agree that Nano has focused on Quantity rather than Quality. And that while for most people 1700 words per day may be reasonable if you miss a day it can quickly become unreachable. So I would like to see a longer challenge (maybe six or eight weeks) or something like 60K in 60 days. Which would make the daily goal lower so you could schedule days off or just have a lower daily goal so if you miss it is easier to recoup.
And if the organization decides they want to regroup, reformat and refocus, I hope that they look at their weaknesses and also add events for editing, not just getting that first draft. (Granted I do agree with the original premise of get the words down because you cannot edit a blank page.) It is just that writing a book is more than just writing a rough draft or 50K, which is not a novel anyway.
As for what I am doing. I have an idea of what I plan on doing. If anything I think it would fit mostly with the Heart Breathings' Rough Draft Challenge. Because I am not starting a new project but rather completing the story I started last year for Nano (the event). I did not get it finished and my goal is to finish it. I think I have between 20K and 50K to write a complete story. So in the next few days I am going to be looking over what I already wrote and then when most of though challenges start I plan on writing new words from where I left off. I want to have a complete draft by the end of November. But it may not be a full 50K since I already started the story. I would be a Nano Rebel if I was following along with the organization and this fits what I want to work on.
I am looking forward to seeing what activities come out over the course of the next year and a half. I think many people will actually be doing a version of nano the event this year, just because there was six weeks to change gears. And that may not be enough time to really plan a new event and promote it. Because that was one thing that Nano the organization really had going for it, longevity of the event.
@@staceycoates1418 the longevity is certainly impressive!
I’m still trying to figure out what I wanna do in November!
I've never done it myself so I doubt I'll start now, but if you did it I'm sure it'd be fun to watch!
@@kiwitealc5353 you just want to watch me suffer through it, don’t you 😂
This was going to be my first one I was planning on doing. After hearing about the controversies it kinda killed some of the motivation but still wanted to write. So now a buddy and I are going to try writing all month together and just see how far we go. Crunch time to get 50k words I know is a big part of it, but having a kid now I have a lot less time and going at a slower pace with one of my friends sounds like an enjoyable time which could help me get better writing time management moving forward out of November.
Yeah it does take some if the fun out of it :( The word count is fun tho!
I do want to write a novel in a month like I did last year, I just need to decide which project to do it with
@@ElsaLouiseSinger maybe I should plan it out a bit more this year
Also could do the same challenge but change the name slightly like NoWriMo or something
At that point I feel like it would be better to do something a bit different entirely tho, but that’s just my opinion.
@@patrick_nilan Oh I'm 100% for completely new challenges that don't feel compelled to ride NaNoWriMo's coattails
That being said there will always be people who want to specifically do NaNoWriMo because of how big and influential it was, if changing the name slightly to distance from the organization makes them feel better while doing it then I mean why not?
But I am for being free of NaNoWriMo's stranglehold on writing challanges. I'm actually in the game dev sphere of things but even that has seen NaNoWriMo's influence, game jams are pretty popular in general and have so much diversity but yet a few of the writing centric ones still feel the need market themselves as "NaNoWriMo but visual novels" which has always felt weird to me when game jams are already an established thing that can stand on their own
I personally do not like the idea of playing with the name. Though I also have no problem with people saying they are doing Nano, the event, because the event is 50K in 30 days and it predated the organization. Saying you are doing Nano isn't bad, it is the organization that sucks.
I'm not participating in NaNoWriMo, but instead I've set up a new event with one of my best writing friends: The Golden Quill Month, in which the progress of ALL parts of the writing process are front and center. So, if you want to write lore or build your world, work on characters, art, maps, storylines, it's all welcome in this event. Just not Generative AI. :D
We always felt NaNoWriMo was a fun challenge, but just not that quite fitting for us. With this new event we still work on our writing projects, but all milestones count, instead of only word count goals.
Enjoy whichever one you choose! I wish you a lot of fun writing!
@@IlseMulAuthor that’s cool. Good luck!
@@patrick_nilan Thanks!
I'm not going to personally.
It's difficult enough as a male romantacy author as it is. I'm not about supporting AI nonsense that has already infiltrated the genre.
I'll just keep writing as usual!
Cheers fam!
Has AI hit the romantacy genre hard?
@@patrick_nilan From my perspective, it has. But my opinion is mostly just based on the quality of content(and mostly in the indie space). I can not say for certain.
It's hard to know for sure within a genre that is so heavily gatekept against male authors.
I'm just speaking for myself, so take it with a grain of salt.
Love your videos.
Write on!
@@MrNoucfeanor thank you! I’ll look into it out of curiosity!
Don’t give up!
Lmao i havent done nanowrimo in 6 years, then it came to my mind and looked it up to see if it still exists only to find a dumpster on fire like what the hell????
Holdup is that an isles banner tho?
It is. I’m a huge isles fan!
NaNoWriMo is fun I'm going to participate in it . honestly I don't care about the AI thing was it stupid for NaNoWiMo to do it yes but I have better thing to do than try to stop people from using AI honestly some people were going to it any way its best to ignore them.
@@glittercakes7720 good luck!
AI is just a tool, and tools are neither ethical nor unethical. It's the way that a person uses the tool that determines the ethics. If you are having AI write your novel, then yeah, there's a big problem there as you're probably violating copyright like crazy if you aren't significantly editing everything it gives you. Of course, you should be doing serious editing anyway. I don't know about you, but in the decades that I've been writing, I've never had a first draft that I looked at and thought "Wow, that's great. Publish it!"
I'm not advocating using AI in writing. I'm simply saying that there's nothing inherently wrong with it, even though the tool itself came from unethical means. A farmer that uses a weapon of war to till his field isn't unethical simply because he's using the weapon.
Writing is the smallest, and arguably least important part of writing a compelling novel. A great book comes from editing, not writing. Unfortunately, we have RUclipsr's using get rich quick clickbait to get views. Those RUclipsr's promise wealth if you use AI to write your novels for you. The truth is that the writing space is already enormously overcrowded. It's hard for even a legitimate author to find an audience. If you come in with a 100% AI written pile of garbage, you won't make anything, and you'll be doing the readers a disservice because AI is inaccurate.
@@BruceWayne15325 I would agree more if the writers who had their work stolen by these companies were compensated or at least acknowledged.
@@patrick_nilan I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think enough has been done to make recompense. It's sad that only the big companies like NYT were able to secure a payment. I don't want anyone to misconstrue my comments as supporting what the AI companies did. That's horrendous, and honestly they should be sued into oblivion.
The sad truth is that many of the inventions we have today came from unscrupulous business practices. Tesla is the real genius behind a huge number of inventions we use every day, but Edison was the unscrupulous businessman that made them public and made all the money off of them, and he's the one in the history books. We don't stop using those tools though.
And why would you want to? If you need nano-whatever to get motivated, find another profession.
There’s nothing wrong with looking to challenges to find some extra motivation!
@@patrick_nilan It’s called self motivation. Challenge yourself. Becoming a successful writer is HARD work. Develop your own system to succeed.
@@PianoMan-hx3ev some people enjoyed the community aspect of the challenge.
I'm doing NaNoWriMo this year as always. I love the challenge. I will use the NaNoWriMo website tracker and perhaps some trackers from some of the new challenges, because most of my NaNo writing buddies decided to left. That's totally OK. I know about NaNo "controversy" and decaded to stay. Thank you for this video Patrick 👍
@@ivad.1341 have you completed it before?