I like the interior scheme, the split bath, the bedroom and the kitchen. Improve it by ditching the propane and using a hydronic heating system, add solar, make it 4x4, ad a real door to the shower (I don’t mind a radius shower.) and no way would I pay anywhere near that for a tiny class C.
This Class B is BRILLIANT!!! 1. Dual beds in the rear 2. Bed above cockpit 3. AND separate shower and toilet. (No wet bathrooms) For a Class B to be this nice is amazing. Class Bs were always a hard pass for me.....but this one has changed my mind.
It's actually a good thing that these RV manufacturers are adding more sleeping space. It's always a shame when you have these huge rigs that only sleep 2 folks.
Hi Matt and Andrea! My likes are the kitchen, the floor plan and the bedroom. The dislikes are the refrigerator too small and no pantry and plastic toilet. Thank you Matt and Andrea!
Love the size, and floor plan. We will be ready to buy in ‘27 model year. Would at least love a 12 volt fridge. We’ll be making it into a king size bed with the mattress company. Turn that bunk into storage, would be nice. Parcelen toilet, please. Love the outdoor storage. You have two years, please make it happen.
Thank you for your comments. Our Product Development team has been notified and I put them on the clock. 👍 Please let me know if you have any questions I can assist you with. Thanks, Brandon at TMC.
Hello Matt and Andrea, Like the floorplan and better frame. 1. Can it be made in a 4x4 version? 2. Can a bed be taken out and stack washer dryer added? 3. Bigger fridge? 4. Porcelain pooper not plastic? 5. Will a spare front/rear mounted tire fit on rear cargo pass thru? 6.can I get an electric stove? Like the idea of size to open up where to stay options.
Hey Matt and Andrea, thanks for your review! You two are awesome. Not a fan of the sliding shower door thingy, the plastic toilet and small counter space in the kitchen. Like the twin bed setup and that outside storage! Keep on keepin' on!
I really like the +floor plan, +storage, +split bath, +twin beds, +drawers under the bed,and the +surprisingly high CCC! I don't like - that skinny one door fridge, that -bad lid on the stove & the -high price.
Super Nice motorhome however very sad that there is no big lithium package option. A 1000 watt inverter that comes with it is too small. Keep your nice work. See ya in Hersey !
Bunk area could add towards the front 12 inches up higher better sleeping area. 👎🏼for the tiny fridge. Nice to see adjustable shower head. Agree toliet tight space.
It was awesome to see a tiny Class C with theater seating instead of a 50 year old diner booth dinette👍but there is absolutely no excuse for a cheap plastic toilet in a wildly overpriced $240,000 motor home with over 2,000lbs of CCC😩
I wish they would make these B+ with 4x4 or AWD. I ski and would love to have one I could take to the slopes. Many ski areas have RV sites in their parking lot.
Hey Matt and Andrea ! This one is my size for "just big enough and not too big". Can I get it without propane ? Batteries don't have to be lithium, but I need ample power for 24/7 use. I don't need the slide, either, as that space is fine without the hassles of slide malfunctions. Please lmk. I think I'm within 1 month of being ready to go through with it.
While I like the floorplan, the deal killer may actually be the 4500 Chassis but may require more research as the numbers don't add up to even support the 2300lb OCCC vs the approx 1000lb OCCC on the 3500 builds with the 4cyl engine. The issue is if you plan to use a TOAD - which most people do. Per MB specs, the GCWR for both the 4500 and 3500 chassis is the same 15225lbs. The issue is the 3500 chassis has a GVWR of 11030 which is where the 4220 towing limits is established. The 4500 chassis has a GVWR of 12125 (Thor leaves off their specs, but not MB or a competing - newest introduced recently - also built on the 4500 chassis. There is your 1000lb bump in OCCC, but the cost is in what you can tow. Subtract GVWR from GCWR and max TOAD is 3125 lbs. That wipes out most cars, including mine.
@@ThorMotorCoach Murr for sure… has anyone seen a ferret looking guy running around LOL…btw I own a 2020 Palazzo 37.4. Bought it brand new, it’s been a great unit!
Good morning, @@CatFoodDraino! Great answer all the way around. He's my favorite as well. That's great to hear you're part of the TMC family. 😍 Happy camping!
Hey Andrea an Matt, I hope that yall are having a great day! Hey Matt you forgot to put the specs on the screen, I replayed the first 7 minutes of this video an yall never popped up the specs for this Thor B+ motorhome!
My #1 dislike would be the freezer, yeah the frig is small but the freezer is barely big enough to hold ice, there wouldn’t be enough room for much else. #2 dislike would be no drawer for silverware, you would have to keep it all in a bin and pull that out each time you wanted a fork. #3 might be that there isn’t a net for the bed over the cab. It is only big enough for a child and therefore they would need a net for safety. Likes: #1 you can use the entire motor home when the slide is in. #2 is the way the beds can be twins or a king. #3 that the front chairs swivel with the push of a button! I wish you put that on the video. That’s for the review.
I’m going to look for this floor plan from a manufacturer not under the Thor umbrella. Everything Thor has touched has gone down in quality. I lean to Forest River because I own a Forest River Rockwood travel trailer and have had absolutely no issues. Plus, their customer service has been very helpful when I have had questions. Degenerative disc issues are causing me to think about a B+ or class c.
So I'm confused. Sales people have always told us, if there is a cabover bed, it is a class C. You say this one is a B +. So....??? And Matt you're a little rough on doors and things in that motorhome......remember it's a Thor!! $240,421 MSRP......what a fake number that is.......these companies think we are stupid!! Even the "sale price" is a joke. And don't worry about that exterior door not closing properly......it's under warranty!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matt, Andrea and team, THANK YOU! We greatly appreciate all your hard work and dedication to the industry. Thank you as well to the RV Review Crew for all your valuable feedback. We greatly appreciate all your ideas, thoughts and comments. Rest assured we put them into our thought process for potential future changes. You are the reason we do what we do. Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or want to pass along any other information. -Brandon at TMC.
Matt, sorry we missed you today in Hershey; my wife and I finally got to meet Andrea and Will. We purchased the 2025 Delano 24FB from General RV today, and thank you for the "Matt's Cash"!!
I like the storage, bedroom, split bath, slide out, swivel seats, over cab bunk, convection/microwave and recliners. Do not like pedestal tables with floor mounts and plastic toilet. Hopefully, the fridge is 12 volt don’t like propane fridge and would rather have a portable induction cooktop. Don’t care for Thor or diesel engine. Thor cheaps out on build quality and after owning a diesel truck I know how costly the maintenance is. Sold that sucker.
Actually, my # 1 dislike would be the pukey exterior color. To much black for my taste. I like the outside storage as well. And, yes Matt I agree with you too small of a refrigerator.
Too small and too expensive. Like: paint job, wind sensing awning, rear storage, ccc is decent for a B+, Dislike< 4 cylinder, twin beds, limited seating, no outside tv, no ladder (deal breaker), shower 'door,' you have to get on knees to use microwave, msrp is laughable.
Needs a popup counter adder in kitchen. Fridge is ok but freezer is smallllllll. Needs solar/lithium package. No RV should come without solar/lithium imo.
Terrible Torque and only enough horsepower for a riding lawn mower. No way it could tow 5,000 lbs. going up mountains a mule team could make it faster.
I often comment on wild paint. IF Manufacturers want to intice the #vanlife shopper to consider a "B+", they need to stop using wild designs and wild paint that is very, very dated. Many vanlife buyers want to be stealth. These wild designs are the exact opposite.
Finally come CCC from a Mercedes. Like the CCC, layout and color. Dislikes: comparing it to a class B. The whole reason of a class b is to park it in your driveway because HOA's are all crazy. I know Matt knows its a class c and calls it a b+ for youtube stuff.
If you can't be honorable and follow the HOa rules, buy somewhere else that is not a HOA. It's not the HOA fault that you feel entitled to breaking the rules!
this cartoon character guy is more interested in promoting his liquid toilet products for commissions then explaining more about the technical functions of the screens on the walls in all the RVs he does with the same repetitive diatribe skit, and this would be classified as a class C when registered.
You keep on beating a dead horse over and over about the no pantry, small sofa and small fridge. It is a small rv, live with it. You cannot fit a residential stile fridge, 3 seater sofa for your dog and a pantry in a 25' rv.
And it’s an amazing amount of shit you’ll find wrong with it, preventing you from using it, and then it’ll be a really amazing amount of time that it sits on the dealers lot waiting to be repaired
I like the interior scheme, the split bath, the bedroom and the kitchen. Improve it by ditching the propane and using a hydronic heating system, add solar, make it 4x4, ad a real door to the shower (I don’t mind a radius shower.) and no way would I pay anywhere near that for a tiny class C.
Great comments! Thanks for sharing your ideas. I will pass this information along to our Product Development team. -Brandon at TMC.
This Class B is BRILLIANT!!!
1. Dual beds in the rear
2. Bed above cockpit
3. AND separate shower and toilet.
(No wet bathrooms)
For a Class B to be this nice is amazing.
Class Bs were always a hard pass for me.....but this one has changed my mind.
Its a class c rv.
That's because it's not a Class B, it's a Class C
It's actually a good thing that these RV manufacturers are adding more sleeping space. It's always a shame when you have these huge rigs that only sleep 2 folks.
Nice unit! We travel in a 24 ft unit and love this size. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Matt and Andrea! My likes are the kitchen, the floor plan and the bedroom. The dislikes are the refrigerator too small and no pantry and plastic toilet. Thank you Matt and Andrea!
Love the size, and floor plan. We will be ready to buy in ‘27 model year. Would at least love a 12 volt fridge. We’ll be making it into a king size bed with the mattress company. Turn that bunk into storage, would be nice. Parcelen toilet, please. Love the outdoor storage. You have two years, please make it happen.
Thank you for your comments. Our Product Development team has been notified and I put them on the clock. 👍 Please let me know if you have any questions I can assist you with. Thanks, Brandon at TMC.
Lol Andrea so funny ohh no....stop the songs I don't know😅call so funnyyyyyy❤❤❤❤❤
Andrea, what a beautiful outfit! It is very 'Chanel' looking! Gorgeous!
That frig could probably handle more food than you think. The floor plan is nice and the ccc is overwhelming like Andrea said.
Matt, appreciate your brutally-honest review!
Very nice RV. My only knock is the small fridge.
We appreciate your feedback and I will share it with our Product Development team. Thanks, Brandon at TMC.
Butterfly Crime scene😂 that is great. I love impractical jokers
Hello Matt and Andrea,
Like the floorplan and better frame.
1. Can it be made in a 4x4 version?
2. Can a bed be taken out and stack washer dryer added?
3. Bigger fridge?
4. Porcelain pooper not plastic?
5. Will a spare front/rear mounted tire fit on rear cargo pass thru?
6.can I get an electric stove?
Like the idea of size to open up where to stay options.
Great OCCC with the 4500 chassis. But towing anything will be impossible now. Both 3500 and 4500 chassis have the same GCWR!
4 cylinder? That motor is going to be working hard. Will it last?
Hey Matt and Andrea, thanks for your review! You two are awesome. Not a fan of the sliding shower door thingy, the plastic toilet and small counter space in the kitchen. Like the twin bed setup and that outside storage! Keep on keepin' on!
Thanks for your comment! We will share your thoughts with our Product Development team. Have a great day! -Brandon at TMC.
I really like the +floor plan, +storage, +split bath, +twin beds, +drawers under the bed,and the +surprisingly high CCC!
I don't like - that skinny one door fridge, that -bad lid on the stove & the -high price.
IT'S A NICE LITTLE RV
If they made the back with a nice murphy bed it could be an office/living/bedroom.
Very nice! Thank you! Thank you! 👍🤘💛🧡💛
Wondering if they might go with the Ford chassis one day. I wonder about if it is a 4 season camper? Nice floor plan.
Andrea is looking so Summer Fabulous!!!
Thank you ☺️
Super Nice motorhome however very sad that there is no big lithium package option. A 1000 watt inverter that comes with it is too small.
Keep your nice work. See ya in Hersey !
Bunk area could add towards the front 12 inches up higher better sleeping area. 👎🏼for the tiny fridge. Nice to see adjustable shower head. Agree toliet tight space.
Does this have solar panels on the roof?
I saw no generator.
Get a tall selfie stick, so you can raise the camera up to see what is in the roof!!!
Since you're in Wixom, MI, did you happen to see Josh? He has endorsed Liquified in at least one video, that I saw.
It was awesome to see a tiny Class C with theater seating instead of a 50 year old diner booth dinette👍but there is absolutely no excuse for a cheap plastic toilet in a wildly overpriced $240,000 motor home with over 2,000lbs of CCC😩
Thanks for watching and your comment. I will voice your opinion on the unit to our Product Development team. -Brandon at TMC.
I wish they would make these B+ with 4x4 or AWD. I ski and would love to have one I could take to the slopes. Many ski areas have RV sites in their parking lot.
Hey Matt and Andrea ! This one is my size for "just big enough and not too big".
Can I get it without propane ?
Batteries don't have to be lithium, but I need ample power for 24/7 use. I don't need the slide, either, as that space is fine without the hassles of slide malfunctions.
Please lmk. I think I'm within 1 month of being ready to go through with it.
This one would be my pick too! But way too pricy even if I won the lottery.
@@Therealgirlinthedesert yes, way overpriced, but maybe a 41% discount from Matt would help !
@@KarenMerleBDunn yes that would really help!!! 😉🤞
While I like the floorplan, the deal killer may actually be the 4500 Chassis but may require more research as the numbers don't add up to even support the 2300lb OCCC vs the approx 1000lb OCCC on the 3500 builds with the 4cyl engine. The issue is if you plan to use a TOAD - which most people do. Per MB specs, the GCWR for both the 4500 and 3500 chassis is the same 15225lbs. The issue is the 3500 chassis has a GVWR of 11030 which is where the 4220 towing limits is established. The 4500 chassis has a GVWR of 12125 (Thor leaves off their specs, but not MB or a competing - newest introduced recently - also built on the 4500 chassis. There is your 1000lb bump in OCCC, but the cost is in what you can tow. Subtract GVWR from GCWR and max TOAD is 3125 lbs. That wipes out most cars, including mine.
Good to know, thanks!
LOL butterfly crime scene…only one show, Impractical Jokers! ;)
😂
Impractical Jokers is a favorite of mine! Who is your favorite? -Brandon at TMC.
@@ThorMotorCoach Murr for sure… has anyone seen a ferret looking guy running around LOL…btw I own a 2020 Palazzo 37.4. Bought it brand new, it’s been a great unit!
Good morning, @@CatFoodDraino! Great answer all the way around. He's my favorite as well. That's great to hear you're part of the TMC family. 😍 Happy camping!
Hey Andrea an Matt, I hope that yall are having a great day! Hey Matt you forgot to put the specs on the screen, I replayed the first 7 minutes of this video an yall never popped up the specs for this Thor B+ motorhome!
Stay safe u guys!
Fridge is a deal breaker. The cabinets are pretty though. Imagine paying that much for a Thor 😂
Its beautiful but the fridge looked bigger in the B van...😮 and no pantry...😢
Beautiful exterior and interior !!! 😢plastic toilet. Agree tiny fridge 😢 but I could live with it. That's why I like a 28 to 30ft.
Thanks for your comment and ideas. These will get put to good use. -Brandon at TMC.
Like euroish look, not typical boring decor. Think cleaning shower curtain would be difficult.
Matt Thor makes this coach its a class C
Power everything equals = Problems everything!
My #1 dislike would be the freezer, yeah the frig is small but the freezer is barely big enough to hold ice, there wouldn’t be enough room for much else. #2 dislike would be no drawer for silverware, you would have to keep it all in a bin and pull that out each time you wanted a fork. #3 might be that there isn’t a net for the bed over the cab. It is only big enough for a child and therefore they would need a net for safety.
Likes: #1 you can use the entire motor home when the slide is in. #2 is the way the beds can be twins or a king. #3 that the front chairs swivel with the push of a button! I wish you put that on the video. That’s for the review.
I stopped watching when you said Thor….
?? Thor literally owns just about every RV manufacturer soooooo….
@@raynman67but it's a Thor, some of their other manufacturers like Jayco/ Entegra build a far superior product.
Because you’re a virgin.
I’m going to look for this floor plan from a manufacturer not under the Thor umbrella. Everything Thor has touched has gone down in quality. I lean to Forest River because I own a Forest River Rockwood travel trailer and have had absolutely no issues. Plus, their customer service has been very helpful when I have had questions. Degenerative disc issues are causing me to think about a B+ or class c.
LOL
I was gonna say the same dang thing!
So I'm confused. Sales people have always told us, if there is a cabover bed, it is a class C. You say this one is a B +. So....???
And Matt you're a little rough on doors and things in that motorhome......remember it's a Thor!!
$240,421 MSRP......what a fake number that is.......these companies think we are stupid!! Even the "sale price" is a joke.
And don't worry about that exterior door not closing properly......it's under warranty!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What would you say is a realistic price?
@@MS-ro9dm $125K if it was a Winnebago and $95K as a Thor product
@@jjones5424 Ok, thanks.
Please put Thor in title so we don’t waste our time.
Matt, Andrea and team, THANK YOU! We greatly appreciate all your hard work and dedication to the industry. Thank you as well to the RV Review Crew for all your valuable feedback. We greatly appreciate all your ideas, thoughts and comments. Rest assured we put them into our thought process for potential future changes. You are the reason we do what we do. Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or want to pass along any other information. -Brandon at TMC.
Nice👍🏾
Matt, sorry we missed you today in Hershey; my wife and I finally got to meet Andrea and Will. We purchased the 2025 Delano 24FB from General RV today, and thank you for the "Matt's Cash"!!
I like the storage, bedroom, split bath, slide out, swivel seats, over cab bunk, convection/microwave and recliners. Do not like pedestal tables with floor mounts and plastic toilet. Hopefully, the fridge is 12 volt don’t like propane fridge and would rather have a portable induction cooktop. Don’t care for Thor or diesel engine. Thor cheaps out on build quality and after owning a diesel truck I know how costly the maintenance is. Sold that sucker.
Not a propane refrigerator,no worries😉
It's a cutaway chassis with a bunk over the cab. Technically a class C innit?
1/4 million dollars? Are they insane
The floor plan is not quite there. The sofa, fridge and of course the price.
I hate that it is a 4cyl.
Wow people are cruel on here for a free review. Ouch!
👍
Howdy
Looks like a C to me
Matt! Less "its got two mirrors" and more OCCC. In fact... an entire video about OCCC would be AMAZING!!!
It’s “Magic Mirror on the wall”!
The Mandela Effect
What! A Merc with a usable CCC.. It must be the end times.. 😬😁
Add solar I will buy
Actually, my # 1 dislike would be the pukey exterior color. To much black for my taste. I like the outside storage as well. And, yes Matt I agree with you too small of a refrigerator.
It's a Thor, say no more
So the tv on the outside side was a joke? Got it
Kumho tires are the absolute worst.
Too small and too expensive. Like: paint job, wind sensing awning, rear storage, ccc is decent for a B+, Dislike< 4 cylinder, twin beds, limited seating, no outside tv, no ladder (deal breaker), shower 'door,' you have to get on knees to use microwave, msrp is laughable.
Needs a popup counter adder in kitchen. Fridge is ok but freezer is smallllllll. Needs solar/lithium package. No RV should come without solar/lithium imo.
Terrible Torque and only enough horsepower for a riding lawn mower. No way it could tow 5,000 lbs. going up mountains a mule team could make it faster.
So little for so much 😢
240k msrp... hahahahaha
First, it's a Thor no way, second Class B+ really, I don't think so.
I often comment on wild paint. IF Manufacturers want to intice the #vanlife shopper to consider a "B+", they need to stop using wild designs and wild paint that is very, very dated. Many vanlife buyers want to be stealth. These wild designs are the exact opposite.
I wouldn’t call it an amazing price point for a b+. My cats would like the bunk. I do like the euro style and floor plan. No azdel siding 👎.
Finally come CCC from a Mercedes. Like the CCC, layout and color. Dislikes: comparing it to a class B. The whole reason of a class b is to park it in your driveway because HOA's are all crazy. I know Matt knows its a class c and calls it a b+ for youtube stuff.
If you can't be honorable and follow the HOa rules, buy somewhere else that is not a HOA. It's not the HOA fault that you feel entitled to breaking the rules!
100k overpriced.
Nice legs, Andrea .❤🤩😯😎🎉
200K? Holy crap. And a plastic toilet. Are they nuts.
this cartoon character guy is more interested in promoting his liquid toilet products for commissions then explaining more about the technical functions of the screens on the walls in all the RVs he does with the same repetitive diatribe skit, and this would be classified as a class C when registered.
I think 200hp on that rig for gcwr of 15,000 lbs seens to me ti be a weak spot, hills will kill this engine.
So expensive
You’re showing of the bathroom 👎🏼
Not a B+, just an anemic C
You keep on beating a dead horse over and over about the no pantry, small sofa and small fridge. It is a small rv, live with it. You cannot fit a residential stile fridge, 3 seater sofa for your dog and a pantry in a 25' rv.
Not worth it
Not a chance.
I enjoyed watching, but had to turn off the sound, un-listenable amateur hour
Crazy high price. Also wish Matt would shave before filming. The 9th grade "beard" looks awful......sorry!
How can you call this one the "Best B+ Motorhome for 2025" when you have never reviewed the Isata 3 Freedom edition? This video is fake news.
American Rv's are built like garbage.
Be nicer to the lady
And it’s an amazing amount of shit you’ll find wrong with it, preventing you from using it, and then it’ll be a really amazing amount of time that it sits on the dealers lot waiting to be repaired
Andrea is looking hot. 😍