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He did that because He can. He's so cute doing so!
The $169,000 MSRP is outrageous for a tiny Class C motor home with a cheap jackknife sofa and a horrible entry level bathroom with a cheap plastic toilet, a cheap shower curtain that will drip water all over your floor and a cheap Dollar Store 4” fart fan😩
Matt and Andrea probably have sex in the motorhomes before selling is finished
lol! not a fart fan, LMBO!
Right? That’s RV is more expensive than my house.
The sad thing is some fool will buy it so the RV manufacturers don’t have to raise their standards
Over Priced Junk
Unfortunately the whole RV industry is going to have to crash and burn before they realize their customers are sick and tired of being ripped off with super overpriced garbage build quality. No thank you.
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Should have made it less expensive with no slide out. Should be a 65K RV
Absolutely, a better standard of material use and construction is definitely needed.
while Thor is trash, there is NO way you'll get the van itself for 65K lol....what decade are we talking about here ;)
How do you service the generator?
I agree
Whatever dude. The cut-away chassis is 40k alone. Get real.
I remember a few months ago when I was all Gaga about this model so glad I got over that and Research store the price is absolutely stupid insane
This sales price is just insane. The price in 2021 for the same RV was 84k.
And thats to much !!!
"Thanks, Biden"
Andrea's lookin better than ever.
Thank you so much ☺️
And Matt is so big now. Last time I looked he was dieting
We absolutely love ours. Our first trip was a 6,000 mile run across the US to visit family and hit the major parks. We're retired and never used the slideout because we used a couple of foldup tv tables to eat on since we were always on the go. That allowed us to park and camp anywhere, the couch is comfortable compared to others we tried and is good for young grandkids or pets to spend the night on. We're average size adults and the bathroom woked fine for us, the double door on the bath can lock open which doubles its size. The shower is small but doable and the curtain works fine. However we used campground showers when available to save on water usage. The best part about the design is the double beds which can always be made up, stop, nap, spend the night anywhere, without dealing with a slideout! The RV is a powerhouse, drives like a van, and powers up and down mountain passes with ease. This RV has everything we need and was a lot less expensive than other brands with the same layout.
I think the Floorplan is practical. Exterior is sharp. Storage seems adequate. Wish for larger fuel capacity for @9mpg. Better shower curtain for sure. More freezer space in fridge. Nice price point for this model. Nice review guys.
Love that moon roof. This is a really nice unit.
I was your 10,400ish sub after meeting you in MD. What a crazy grind and ride you been on. Thanks for the hustle
You right about the bathroom. They could move the toilet paper roll dispenser up some to give more knee room.
I’d get rid of the little sink/cabinet in the bathroom and make the shower better/bigger with a little more room for the toilet….make the toilet porcelain Thor!!!!
Nice rig but 8.9 MPG for a smaller B+. Aren't there big rigs that get that mileage? Gas here in California is around $5 per gallon now. My Travato get 16-17 MPG.
He’s just reading the current MPG, doesn’t exactly tell you what it would do on the HWY
Nice Tour and RV Matt and Andrea!
I'm impressed with the quality of those hinges, Three hinges per Door I love the soft closing but my biggest fear is that nice skylight Leaking.
my 3 likes: #1 soft closing drawers #2 sofa with table directly across from the TV #3 twin beds combo with the outside storage
my 3 dislikes: #1 the bathroom #2 water connections on the outside #3 the microwave placement
Ohhhhh my gosh Andrea (sorry if I spelled it incorrectly) your hair looks amazing!
Thank you so much 😊
Love the awnings out
The shower is not working for me. It's smaller than a cruise ship shower
Likes: twin beds, 12v fridge, pop-up counter mostly flush with the rest of the counter. Dislikes: the entire bathroom (a little reshuffling could have given us a split bath) that tiny jackknife sofa, and ugly open storage above the cab.
I agree with you Matt. I am not a fan of Class B Vans. The smallest I would consider would be a Winnebago Ekko or this Thor. However, I would try to live in mine with my cat.
WOW, 1500lbs CCC, that's awesome. Really not a bad small motorhome. Great review Matt and Andrea.
Love the Compass models. The AWD Transit chassis makes these kick ass.
We love them too and appreciate your support along with your comment! 😍 Thanks, Brandon @ TMC.
👍👍 Also thank you for the discount on your tank additive.
Yes, let's see the awning open.!
8.9 average mpg from a turbo v6. A big block V8 would perform better and have better power delivery.
My 2002 30' Georgie Boy Landau on the 8.1l Workhorse chassis gets about that driving normally. I have a lead foot. It was only doing 2000 RPM on level ground at 70 MPH. It felt like it was coasting, or going downhill.
He just read what the current MPG said on the dash, who knows the trip it took to accomplish that but my guess is starting idling and moving it from one spot to the filming spot. HWY is probably much better
Love it! Thanks!
I really like that with having the 3.5 ecoboost
8.9 mpg not very good for a small unit.
Does it have a comprehensive warranty that will actually be honored?
Very nice! Thank you! Thank you! 👍🤘💛🧡💛
Hi Matt and Andrea! My dislike are the hookups outside should be inclosed and the shower curtain. I think it cute and much better that wet bath. My likes are the floor plan, the bedroom and storage. I think this Gemini is cute. I love it. Thank you Matt and Andrea! .
Happy Mother's Day to Andrea!!🌺🌺💐💐🤗 Keep doing great things, Matt and Andrea-you're awesome!!🎺🎺🎺🎺
Thank you 🤗
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That trekker cap is fairly useless. I don't need a bunk, but a little more space for storage up there would be nice. That might be one of the worst bathrooms I've ever seen.
My Travato I like Bettee than that. Thor’s quality is sub par. Andrea your new hair style looks great.
Thank you 😊
Wonder if there is a version without a slide and an actual bunk over cab? Seems like they could have had a bed there with minimal effort. And you're right... horrible bathroom plan, but the other floor plan seems pretty solid.
Call me weird, but I love seeing the awnings 🥰
You're weird. But we're with ya.
Nice floor plan & I love your new dew Andrea!
Thanks so much 🤗
Matt: Nice review but the short beds are a deal killer (unless you sleep with your head glued to the headboard).
We have the Thor Vegas with the same exact floor plan. We used the closet as a pantry.
I'd like to make a request about the filming y'all do. Please when he/or whoever lays on the bed, show all the way to their feet so everyone can see how much room there is. Other RUclipsrs will measure or actually show how much bed space you'll have.
I will definitely try to do that. Thank you ☺️
@@foxcroftandrea3213 appreciate you all adding in miles per gallon. I am always wondering-will the gas bill kill my trip plans.
That bathroom is a deal Breaker, I'm not paying a $170000 and have to deal with that bathroom.
We appreciate your feedback and I will share it with our Product Development team. Thanks, Brandon @ TMC.
That looks like a great deal!
This has a better kitchen than the Ekko but overall the Ekko is my favorite B+. I wonder why every B+ doesn’t have an Ekko-style bathroom. Nobody has ever answered that question in any video.
For that price you can get a decent older class A or C that are build alot better and nicer too
Your dislikes of the Gemini are easy fix except the outside hookups. I like, it but I agree with you Matt about the hookups. Hope there's one that's locked not exposed. Good video 👍
Great job as always, Matt & Andrea! We appreciate all the comments and we will use them for potential future product changes. Thanks to all who watched and left a message! As always, please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Happy camping, Brandon @ TMC.
Manufacturers will continue to see prices being criticized.
The pandemic really messed with the RV industry's concept of pricing. Why the price hikes? 🤷🏼♂️ because they (manufacturers) said so.
Best description of the bathroom ever hear - horrendous. I stood in the 27 by 27 shower. My shoulders are 22" and it was like standing in a tube. Don't even think about bending over to was knees or feet! The only good thing I can think of in addition to the engine, is that built on the 176" wheelbase where virtually every competitor, except one, and the other floorplans of the Gemini are built on the 158" wheelbase. The other floorplans are not much better with extensive use of low end materials. Of course the one with premium materials and multiple floorplan choice on the 176" wheelbase does exist...but there is a three year wait. The other manufacturers should see that wait as an opportunity to offer a premium model. As it stands, it is pushing me to Mercedes for the better build choices.
I like it, except for that low microwave and the stupid round kitchen sink. And I'd prefer a reclining loveseat or trifold sofa.
Like most of this, but I would be looking for campsites with good shower facilities. Single guy. mostly good stuff with this.
Likes:
1. Skylight.
2. Kitchen cabinetry and its colors.
3. Mirror over the pantry/wardrobe door. Mirror in the living room. Light and mirrors make it beighter and appear more spacious.
Dislikes:
1. Pricing.
2. Bathroom layout. Toilet paper holder low. Cabinets too small for real products. Not a fan of the shower curtain that doesnt look like it prevents water from getting all over the bathroom. Id rather have a wetbath.
3. The overhead caninetry should match the kitchen them. Euro shiny two tone overhead doors do not look as current as the kitchen.
I bet that slide out leaks 13 months into it (1 month after warranty ends)
So glad I’ve gotten out of this headache RV maintenance ownership nightmare. Live and learn
What's up with the location of the generator?
I would use something like this for a daily driver. The only problem with these B+ vans is the traditional RV paint job. My HOA will not let me park it in my driveway or the front of my home because it is an RV. I asked if it were a solid color if it would make a difference. They said they would consider it the same as parking a company work vehicle if it were a solid color, making it acceptable. This is my long winded way of saying, any chance of getting this without the “RV” paint?
That's what you get for living in a hoa.
I just am astonished the prices of RV's anymore. I owned many RV's in the day and the most we paid was $6K. They were older models but they had all of the conveniences.
Stuck in 1950 my friend.
@@snocone6228 Nope, last RV I bought was actually 14 years ago.
Why does it have such a small gas tank? If you’re getting 8mpg without pulling anything imagine if you pull a small trailer for a SxS. I would bet you would only get 5 or 6 mpg then. That means you would have to stop every 100+ miles to fill up. That is borderline useless
Ford offers a 31 gallon tank for this chassis. The competition pretty much all have the bigger tank, especially when the generator uses gas
How many of those stove covers get broken while on dealers lots?
i was quoted 90k last year at Motor Home Specialist in Alvarado TX.
Agree the toilet is the worst, still don’t know how many seatbelts, and why is the TV outlet not under the awning side,
Good afternoon! There are 4 seat belts in the coach. You'll find this on the Specifications and also the floor plan renderings on our site. Thanks, Brandon @ TMC.
Is there a dinette option or recliner option instead of that couch?
I assume that there are big discounts available. Mostly old technology apart from the Ford chassis. Doesn’t hold a candle to the Ekko or Ekko clones.
Thor is already releasing their 2025s? Wow!
pre-covid, we bought a really nice Grand Design Solitude 5th wheel at a FL RV show in Feb 2018. We ordered one with light leather at the super good RV sale deal we got. The RV was delivered in May and was a 2019 model.
Short answer is the new model year rigs start being shipped to dealers around May.
Good morning! Thanks for watching and supporting Matt and his team. Our model year change over happens in the middle of May. There have been some 2025 model year prototypes built. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Brandon @ TMC.
So what is the estimate mpg on the highway? Is it available with electric and not gas?
You two both look fabulous! 😊
Thanks so much 😊
Not a big fan of the bathroom but it works if you're not a real big size person. It's not something you would want to live in full time unless you are by yourself. And I am not a real big fan of the bedroom set-up don't look like you have much space to put clothing ect. The storage outside gives you more room than inside. I don't like the way the hook ups are either. But you get what you pay for I guess. I haven't watched you in a while so I want to say Hi to you both and happy reviews this year. I love it when Andrea is with you she is so honest about everything so are you Matt but from a women's view she's great and very honest. Take care and stay safe.😂
That slide out is pointless. Could have just left the wall intact and saved some weight while improving reliability.
At 5:49 that isn't more electronics, it's where you dump your black and grey tanks.
The glass cover/splash screeen over the burners locks in the upright position, just lift up slightly then fold it down.
I love this unit!
Thor just got lazy and greedy with this van. Agree with Matt, that bathroom is the worst! No Theater seats? The storage sucks! The seats look super cheap, and the price? Are they high???? You have never had a review with something so awful! That said I do watch them all and love you guys! Andrea the bangs are bangin! ❤. Happy Mothers day!!!
I absolutely love the rear twin beds and the rest of the floor plan. I disagree with you, Matt, I'm okay with a wet bath. As a matter of fact, I prefer it. I wish somebody would make a travle traiter similar to this floor plan with no slide. kitchen, wet bath, rear twin beds, flip down table where the couch is and put a couch with table at the front. im just a custom girl in a cookie cutter world.
Where’s the theater seating option? I’d like it if it had that. Price seems too high for this though.
That's a great idea that I'll pass along to our Product Development team. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Brandon @ TMC.
I was interested on this . . . until you got to the bathroom. Terrible! And $168k is RIDICULOUS for this B+.
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Yup, bath needs improvement
Also like to add why does the twin bed head not lift up ????
Love Andreas haircolor and cut!❤❤❤
Thanks so much ☺️
Did I miss you all talking about the stove? You said to leave the cover up and you would get back to it. And , wow!!! MSRP $169,000 and that is a cheaper price point!!!
I would kill the bathroom sink and make the shower/bath so much better. Not for me but better than a van.
Will you take a check? I’ll come get it now.
That jump was epic
I don’t like the shower curtain area and the TP holder is too close the toilet. 1burner stove would be enough with the better microwave convection unit and would give more counter space. Take the couch out and put in a theater seating with attached swing tables. This is a couples rv. All the storage is great. Inside and out. The MPG sucks. Definitely needs a bigger gas tank.
Love it but bring back the three way fridge!!!
Tank sizes are too small.
Does the front seats swivel??
Would want induction stovetop. And would want compost toilet.
This model, B+, I will buy. I'm not a fan of RV van, but this B+ (C), I can deal with.
It's so good to see Andrea again. I miss her. ❤🎉😊
is that a 15” inch tv?
I would never pay that kind of money for that rig! Outrageous!
Oh my goodness we were living the whole thing! Until you got to that horrible bathroom! We are so let down we thought this is the one. But for get it. And hook ups exposed not good
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Wasn't this chassis recalled?
How is an unsecured potable water fill even legal? All it would take is a ner-do-well with a bottle of epicac or worse to royally mess up your trip.
170k is a lot of stays at a JW Marriott I can fly to or drive to !
There is definitely something about have your own bed 😊and belongings with you.
This just keeps making me more angry! 165k AND a plastic toilet! There is no counter space hence no reason they could not have put a decent size kitchen sink. There is just not one good thing about this. They not only doubled the price in 3 years, they put the cheapest crap they could in there.
I guess if you JUST want it for vacations and don't need to do any work. I actually kinda like the bathroom, but no dedicated workspace or table prep space is a problem in that RV
I like the floor plan but I wish the bathroom didn’t suck so much.
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