Hmmm I was expecting improved AF because of PDAF and everyone's been asking for it, but I was definitely not expecting C-AF to work with the MC-21 wow. That was one of the minor complaints I had as an early L-Mount adopter, but now I feel so rewarded for believing in the system. Thanks Joseph!
So nice to finally see you in focus after all these years @PhotoJoseph 😅 Bring on a successor to my G9 at around $1299 with this fantastic PDAF, dual UHS-2 SD card slots, with unlimited 4K60 uncropped and I'll bite 😆😆 Next gen livestreaming stuff a la Gh5mark2'd be nice too 🤠 This S5mark2 is the best full frame on the market yet, for sure (A7S3 4K60 crop/IBIS was unusable and too expensive imo). But I won't spend $3K+ upgrading to FF with new lenses etc if there isn't FF 4K60 uncropped that comes with it.. If S1Hmark2 comes at $2.5k, with uncropped 4K60 (even 8K?), we'll see 🤗
Nice video! Did they tell you when the RAW over HDMI license would be available for purchase? I just pre-ordered the S5-II and I'm selling my S1H but I want to get RAW over HDMI ASAP
Not that I've heard. I would assume though it may not be until the S5IIX is out, but that's an assumption and hopefully incorrect! I'd like to see it sooner.
amazing. bye bye Fuji. bake your own LUT as you shoot, stills or video? WOW. AF is of course the big story, but the ability to grade in camera? awesome. MARTY SENDER YOU TUBE
I would definetely buy the S5 II X "TODAY" , but as it will be released by the end of May, I'm quite sure the cuncurrency will come up with quite a good stuff till there.. Waiting.......
Best S5ii review hands down. Straightforward no nonsense and useful info. Thank you. - had a question maybe you can answer… waveforms… can you make them go away after you hit record in the S5ii? On my s5 I can’t seem to make them go away after hitting record. Also can you resize them like I believe you can I the Gh6?
Thank you! Yes you can resize and reposition the waveform monitor. To hide it after you start recording, press the Disp. button, but it doesn’t automatically hide while recording.
If the S5ii specs' trickle down to all other future Lumix cameras, both MFT & full frame, they're going to make a real impact on the market. I also wonder if the real time LUT feature could open up Lumix users to 'film recipes' for stills or video, something which has been so popular with Fujifilm users? Maybe something to explore in a future video..??
I like the way you think! Yeah there's some pretty great options with that Realtime LUT feature. If there's sufficient interest I'll definitely explore it more!
The Canon lenses AF test helped me a ton!!! Thanks!!! I was hoping to see the 24-70mm f/2.8 L and 70-200mm f/2.8 tested too. But, you did test the 85mm and 100mm that I have too.
Awesome! I don’t own the 70-200/2.8. I do have the original 24-70 but didn’t put that one on as it isn’t “special” like the others - especially that 85!! 🤤
The sigma 18-35 1.8 EF lens is very popular. We use it a lot on our productions... The S5 II is a great APSC camera aswell: 4k50, good rolling shutter performance... And unlike the first S5 you can shoot hd@100fps in APSC mode too.
Hello I need to decide between S5 ii and S5 Ii x and thought you could help, I have questions about the X : - can you record internally while Livestream? If so, can you record 4k and stream hd via wifi hotspot? - does it have timecode freerun ? Thanks a lot, I couldnt find these info anywhere, and since you are familiar with all the Lumix cameras I thought you could help.
We don't know yet if the S5IIX will record while live streaming. The GH5II does _not_ offer that capability however. And it does have freerun timecode, yes. There's just no timecode input/output on the S5II or S5IIX. The GH6, GH5II, S1H, BGH1 and BS1H support timecode in and out.
@@photojoseph thank you for your reply. Since I have your attention there's one basic feature I'd love to see on the gh6 via firmware update but I have no idea where to submit it : video in 50P 4:3 no crop (they decide the resolution based on what it can do). In this day and age where everything goes on Instagram as well, it'd be super useful for many content creators... Some slow -mo here and there gives much flexibility on the editing.
Great episode, my friend! Even though I am not familiar with all the camera features (Sašo and Robi will surely love this part), I enjoyed it a lot! Especially with the whisky part 😉
3:15 For the first time in my life I hear a RUclipsr admitting that asking viewers to subscribe doesn't work. Because it doesn't. People either want to come back or not. They either want to hit the like button or not. Your wife is wrong lol. Why annoy people with that same washed out phrase to subscribe and hit the like button? Thank you for honesty.
I appreciate your comment! Except that… if you look through the comments here, many people said “thanks for the reminder” 😅 I think an occasional heartfelt request vs the rote “like and subscribe!” Is a good approach.
@@photojoseph love it and i have to take some. So, waiting for real hard tests of the X to check the differences. ProRes and external SSD recording is a game changer
Not sure if i can wait. So everything u shot in this vid is 24fps 4k. How about the 5.9k 30 or 4k 30? Is there 60? Pda and is just as good? Oh and how bout pda on hdmi raw formats. This video i keep going back to .about the time i purchase That pda gh6 will announce🎉Thank You
Let me applaud you for hanging onto and testing the 1.)Canon 85mm f/1.2 and 2.)Canon 100mm Macro. Two kick-ass lenses which NOW will work with this Lumix SLR type body and continuously autofocus. Well worth waiting for, and high performance on any camera body (finally). 👍
yeah I'm stoked I still have those. The only lens I sold from that collection was the 400mm f/4 as it was worth a lot and sadly at the time I needed the money!
Seriously, I've binge-watched about 20 reviews on this thing and your review hits all thr important bits. Best review. Well done. I feel like this SiiX will be the perfect camera at that price point. Happy days! Panasonic finally came through with AF. I imagine it will only get better as firmware improves.
Panasonic just give Lumix fans the best reason to stay with the brand. A little help please? I have a problem with Lumix when using flash. I would like to see the preview as exposed by my setting but without the flash. However, when I turn on the flash, Lumix always brighten the preview. I didn't have such problem with Olympus.
Thanks for watching. I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for… the flash will always change what the image looks like, so when you connect a flash, the camera automatically enables a mode where you can actually see the image clearly. The setting you're looking for is called "Constant Preview", but I don't know that you can disable it when a flash is connected.
@@photojosephlet's say I am shooting in manual exposure and TTL flash. With an Olympus I am see how my chosen aperture / shutter speed / ISO would expose a scene before flash so I can decide how much to underexpose so the flash will become the dominant light. On a Panasonic, constant preview is either on or off. If it's on, I cannot see preview of my chosen exposure only but chosen exposure + flash. Is there any way to see just preview of chosen exposure?
I only tested primes because that’s most of what I own and what I’m most interested in. I have an old 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/4 and those work too, but those lenses exist from Panasonic in L Mount so I was less interested to try.
Great video Joseph, So So glad the auto focus has been nailed and long awaited....Panasonic have always been fantastic along with all the embedded little goodies that come along with them' I love the live comp mode... Anyhow great review and the best to you for 2023....Take care from the u. k....
I haven't tested but it'd probably be the same as in previous LUMIX cameras. Keep in mind you can get PDAF at 4K50 or 4K60 but just not in full frame; only with the APS-C crop.
Hello, I have purchased Lumix S5 october 2022, and now you released a new S5II camera, why did Panasonic sell Lumix s5 camera with autofocus issue. all time S5 have a problem with autofocus. At least they have should recall application for all Lumix S5 cameras . They sell defective camera on 2 years. Now they corrected auto focus defect issue and call it Lumix S5II. This is not fair. I am felling like a donkey. Thank you Panasonic.
I’m sorry you feel this way but it was not a defective camera. LUMIX cameras have had a contrast based auto focus system since forever. This is the first camera of a whole new generation of AF for LUMIX called PDAF. Your AF isn’t defective - PDAF is just better.
haha yeah the glove thing was sneaky, but also I gave it away with the thumbnail and the title… I dunno, I probably should have done it differently, but hopefully it was fun ;-) Japan was the best, wasn't it? Let's go back!!
Sorry for being a bit out of topic, but I know you are very knowledgeable on these sorts of things...do you know if it's possible to live stream on youtube with my phone using what I am shooting with my Panasonic camera? Just like what the go pro is capable of doing, for example. Thanks!
There's one thing everybody must admit: Panasonic always ends up listening to its core base customers. We wanted to keep the fully articulated screen on all cameras, done, no compromise; We wanted a full frame series, done; We wanted phase autofocus, finally done too.
great video as always. I'm really curious about the software\app control on the s5ii as you covered it on the past on other lumix cameras. my thinking is that if I could choose the focus point remotely on the computer\app for live streaming and it will stick dependently that would definitely encourage me to get a few s5ii..
So, you can change focus modes but I don’t believe you can attach the tracking target to a subject remotely, if that’s what you’re asking. But I wouldn’t rely on that for a live stream. Face detection works great and that’s what I’d use.
I am so glad I held my ground with Panasonic. When I got the GH5 I wanted to sell it but then I found your channel and through your reviews and videos I stayed with the system. It made me a better filmmaker to shoot without autofocus. And ever since, I got a second camera which is the GH5s then the GH5ii and now the GH6. Every other camera I hold pales with in comparison and now, that the S5iiX is pre-ordered, I am so glad I believed in this brand and I look forward to them sweeping the market off its feet. Thank you Joseph for your efforts in each and every single video. I appreciate you
For someone who started watching your videos from the good old GH5 autofocus test videos this is definitely a "new phase". I guess my wait to invest on the S5 was worth it. Something in my mind kept telling me to wait as there might be a new version of S5 or S1 coming up.
Panasonic please, please, PLEASE show some love to Micro Four Thirds (GH series) The S5iix will be the only camera to possibly make me move to full frame but I love the capabilities of my MFT camera.
I don’t understand the question. The entire discussion of real-time LUT was for video, except my mention of what I’m most excited about. Yes I’ll do a follow up video on stills.
This is a little off topic but don't know where else to go with this. For photos, when using flash in Continuous AF there is about, what feels like, a .5 second lag from when the shutter button is pressed and the actual photo is taken. However, this is not the case when shooting in Single AF. Is there something that needs to be changed in the camera or with a firmware? Thanks again for all your help.
When you say HFR for the x version is that basically saying it will do 48p in 4K uncropped so a slightly slower alternative to no uncropped 60p? Or is there something different in calling it HFR versus just another 4K uncropped mode?
Check the chart at PhotoJoseph.com/S5II - HFR modes apply both cameras. It's the 10-bit S&Q that only applies to the S5IIX. The only difference between a "standard" frame rate and an HFR one is that HFR aren't common broadcast frame rates, so anything outside of 23.98, 29.97, 24, 25 and 59.94 qualify as HFR.
@@photojoseph I see, was confused because the fact some rates are only available in crop modes isn't shown under the HFR section. Hoping there might have been a FF 48p mode for lack of a 60. I realize it's hard to account for all the exceptions.
Recent subscriber (today - kudos to your wife). I am still sporting the Canon 5D Mark III, and the S5 II is really interesting (especially allowing me to adopt my EF lenses), but I use Godox AD200's. Would this S5 II use the Olympus Xpro-O 4/3 Godox controller, or is this more a Leica flash system. I've been thinking about going with the Canon EOS R6 II, but this has really captured my attention, especially at this price.
I work for Panasonic and can confirm we use the Olympus flash protocol. We even have 2 Godox flashes in our cabinet at the booth to Demo and many of our ambassadors use the Godox Oly transmitter.
Great video as ever Joseph! Would definitely love to hear more about Real Time LUTs for photography/jpegs. I agree, really exciting feature!! Incidentally, does this mean this could mimic say Fujifilm's film simulation recipe feature (well, kind of!)? Keep up the work! Cheers 👍
An off-topic comment: I really liked the camera zoom/move effect when you were sitting on the chair and leaning forwards and backwards. I think I'm going to steal this idea. I guess you did it in the post, right?
I am a canon shooter and also a lumix shooter, I kept my FZ2500 when I sold my other lumix camera as it had much better auto focus and better image quality than my g7. I always said if Panasonic would just put phase detect af in their cameras they would have a killer of a camera. No one puts all the features that Panasonic does at this price point. My FZ 2500 is the same the features in that camera are just insane. My canons are outstanding and do a excellent job, but I can always make room for a S5 mkii x Outstanding job Panasonic!
That FZ2000 camera somehow is still in use on my productions too... Every year I'm thinking it's the last season and every year it proves useful again for outdoor sports Livestream. Like all Panasonic gear, it's feature packed, rock solid, but how it uses so little power in HD rec+ clean HDMI out remains a mystery.
@@mcronfpv8736 so true, it’s still a excellent camera in 2023 which is amazing if you think about it. Plus it has built in nd filters which is crazy for a camera under a thousand dollars.
No. This is something I've just been learning about and trying to figure out. I don't have confirmation of this, but here's my theory. The S5II does 4K60 but only at APS-C. So for it to do 1080p60 at full frame, the only way that is logically possible is if the camera is pixel binning or line skipping (if it were scaling the full sensor readout, then it would also be able to do 4K60 full frame). The image looks too good to be line skipping, so it must be binning. Since PDAF is based on individual pixels, if the image is binning pixel data, then it probably can't access them for AF either. I have zero idea if this is a permanent limitation or something that can be addressed, but given Panasonic's history with firmware updates, if it can be done, I think it's safe to say that it will be done.
@@photojoseph Thanks for getting back! I hope it’s something they can fix with a FW update(if possible). If other brands can do it I’m hoping that Panasonic can too. Fingers crossed 🤞. Thanks for all your continued information.
Right - this was not information I had at the time and I've just been learning about and trying to figure this one out. I don't have confirmation of this, but here's my theory. The S5II does 4K60 but only at APS-C. So for it to do 1080p60 at full frame, the only way that is logically possible is if the camera is pixel binning or line skipping (if it were scaling the full sensor readout, then it would also be able to do 4K60 full frame). The image looks too good to be line skipping, so it must be binning. Since PDAF is based on individual pixels, if the image is binning pixel data, then it probably can't access them for AF either. I have zero idea if this is a permanent limitation or something that can be addressed, but given Panasonic's history with firmware updates, if it can be done, I think it's safe to say that it will be done.
As a GH6 owner, this is very useful 5:57 , however i may wait for the S5iix to release for the additional features it has over the S5ii. Thanks for the review 👍
Thanks for being a member! Why don't you take this conversation to our Discord, as there I can post a little video of the menus for you. If you're not already in the Discord, check your membership benefits page here on RUclips and you'll find a link to join the Discord.
Will s5 ii x have similar camera control / multicam functionality over wifi as the BGH1 and BS1H? I am hoping to combine it with those cams in a multicam environment using the lumix tether software to trigger start/stop and adjust camera settings.
Not over WiFi, just USB. The GH5 II can be controlled over ethernet with a USB-C to Ethernet adapter, so perhaps the same will happen with the S5IIX, but it's not announced at launch if it will.
Hi Joseph, I might have missed you discussing this, so sorry if you did and I missed it. In the original S5 the peaking on the rear screen wasn’t great when shooting 1080, and worse when shooting 4K. Is the peaking on the rear screen better with the S5 II?
you're talking about focus peaking? What do you mean by "wasn't great"… there's a bit of refinement you can do in focus peaking (changing the color and the sensitivity). There's no published differences but there may be some; let me know specifically what you're looking for.
@@photojoseph on the original the peaking on the rear display when shooting 4K wasn’t as apparent vs shooting 1080. I’m wondering if this is different now.
For the one shot that was in Portrait mode, I am pretty sure it was just in the default setting. That'd be the Canon 85mm lens demo. Is that what you mean?
Lovely video as always!! I think the S52 is in line with the S5 in not getting the Optical Low Pass Filter (same as S1H) …what about the S52x in this respect? I use an S5 and S1H side by side a lot and it makes a big difference to the image on all focal lengths. I’ve wondered why this feature isn’t toggle-able??
Both S5II and S5IIX have the same sensor, both without LPF. It's not toggle-able because it's hardware. It's a physical filter on the sensor that blurs the image slightly to eliminate moire. By removing it (as LUMIX has done since the GX8), you get a sharper image at the expense of potential moire.
@@photojoseph ahhhh…ok. Interesting. Thanks mate. I think the S52x still sounds better on paper than the S1H for me, especially getting open gate at 25fps( for us citizens of the Commonwealth) so I’ll sell the S1H to buy the S52x and keep my Black Pro Mists handy!
They've sent me one to play with too! I'm well impressed.
oh awesome! If you've got any questions, you know how to reach me ;-)
@@photojoseph I sure do! I need to message you anyway about NAB 😄
@@MrAlexTech do it! And now I need to find your response to my question on your channel. RUclips comments are so borked…
Hmmm I was expecting improved AF because of PDAF and everyone's been asking for it, but I was definitely not expecting C-AF to work with the MC-21 wow. That was one of the minor complaints I had as an early L-Mount adopter, but now I feel so rewarded for believing in the system. Thanks Joseph!
That's awesome to hear, and I was surprised at how well it works, too!
Rather happy with this release, in lieu of trying it. My S5 is awesome and this is a big deal especially for a mkii
So nice to finally see you in focus after all these years @PhotoJoseph 😅
Bring on a successor to my G9 at around $1299 with this fantastic PDAF, dual UHS-2 SD card slots, with unlimited 4K60 uncropped and I'll bite 😆😆
Next gen livestreaming stuff a la Gh5mark2'd be nice too 🤠
This S5mark2 is the best full frame on the market yet, for sure (A7S3 4K60 crop/IBIS was unusable and too expensive imo). But I won't spend $3K+ upgrading to FF with new lenses etc if there isn't FF 4K60 uncropped that comes with it..
If S1Hmark2 comes at $2.5k, with uncropped 4K60 (even 8K?), we'll see 🤗
I saw what you did there with the gloves. Also the title, yes yes!
Haha thanks man!
I love how you did the whipping around vlogging test, because i did that a lot with the s5, and that was really my only downside
Panasonic doing it again: doing what nobody expected. Epic.
it's impressive AF! 🤭
Nice video! Did they tell you when the RAW over HDMI license would be available for purchase? I just pre-ordered the S5-II and I'm selling my S1H but I want to get RAW over HDMI ASAP
Not that I've heard. I would assume though it may not be until the S5IIX is out, but that's an assumption and hopefully incorrect! I'd like to see it sooner.
amazing. bye bye Fuji. bake your own LUT as you shoot, stills or video? WOW. AF is of course the big story, but the ability to grade in camera? awesome. MARTY SENDER YOU TUBE
That's awesome!
I would definetely buy the S5 II X "TODAY" , but as it will be released by the end of May, I'm quite sure the cuncurrency will come up with quite a good stuff till there..
Waiting.......
I get it!
good hanging with you in japan!
Likewise my man… let's go back!
Best S5ii review hands down. Straightforward no nonsense and useful info. Thank you. - had a question maybe you can answer… waveforms… can you make them go away after you hit record in the S5ii? On my s5 I can’t seem to make them go away after hitting record. Also can you resize them like I believe you can I the Gh6?
Thank you! Yes you can resize and reposition the waveform monitor. To hide it after you start recording, press the Disp. button, but it doesn’t automatically hide while recording.
QUESTION: …but first, thank you for this Joseph. At 8:22….what is the difference between 4K and C4k?
Getting it next year!
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Your wife is right. Subscribed. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for the sub! ☺️ (and I’ll let her know hehe)
Thank you so much!
Great video bro!
Thanks man! Yours too. Great hanging in Japan-land!
If the S5ii specs' trickle down to all other future Lumix cameras, both MFT & full frame, they're going to make a real impact on the market. I also wonder if the real time LUT feature could open up Lumix users to 'film recipes' for stills or video, something which has been so popular with Fujifilm users? Maybe something to explore in a future video..??
I like the way you think! Yeah there's some pretty great options with that Realtime LUT feature. If there's sufficient interest I'll definitely explore it more!
Sorry wife, I'm already subscribed.
😂 I’ll let her know!
Great explain, full details explain wow, 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I love Panasonic. Now more than ever. I might have to get a ff now.
You will love it! I use both MFT and FF depending on the needs.
The Canon lenses AF test helped me a ton!!! Thanks!!!
I was hoping to see the 24-70mm f/2.8 L and 70-200mm f/2.8 tested too. But, you did test the 85mm and 100mm that I have too.
Awesome! I don’t own the 70-200/2.8. I do have the original 24-70 but didn’t put that one on as it isn’t “special” like the others - especially that 85!! 🤤
@@photojoseph bokeh-lishous!!! I love my 85mm f/1.2
The sigma 18-35 1.8 EF lens is very popular. We use it a lot on our productions... The S5 II is a great APSC camera aswell: 4k50, good rolling shutter performance... And unlike the first S5 you can shoot hd@100fps in APSC mode too.
Hello I need to decide between S5 ii and S5 Ii x and thought you could help, I have questions about the X :
- can you record internally while Livestream? If so, can you record 4k and stream hd via wifi hotspot?
- does it have timecode freerun ?
Thanks a lot, I couldnt find these info anywhere, and since you are familiar with all the Lumix cameras I thought you could help.
We don't know yet if the S5IIX will record while live streaming. The GH5II does _not_ offer that capability however. And it does have freerun timecode, yes. There's just no timecode input/output on the S5II or S5IIX. The GH6, GH5II, S1H, BGH1 and BS1H support timecode in and out.
@@photojoseph thank you for your reply. Since I have your attention there's one basic feature I'd love to see on the gh6 via firmware update but I have no idea where to submit it : video in 50P 4:3 no crop (they decide the resolution based on what it can do). In this day and age where everything goes on Instagram as well, it'd be super useful for many content creators... Some slow -mo here and there gives much flexibility on the editing.
Great episode, my friend! Even though I am not familiar with all the camera features (Sašo and Robi will surely love this part), I enjoyed it a lot! Especially with the whisky part 😉
Haha thanks for watching my friend! We should go to Japan sometime and drink their whiskey together 😁
@@photojoseph That would be awesome 🤩🤩
3:15 For the first time in my life I hear a RUclipsr admitting that asking viewers to subscribe doesn't work. Because it doesn't. People either want to come back or not. They either want to hit the like button or not. Your wife is wrong lol. Why annoy people with that same washed out phrase to subscribe and hit the like button? Thank you for honesty.
I appreciate your comment! Except that… if you look through the comments here, many people said “thanks for the reminder” 😅 I think an occasional heartfelt request vs the rote “like and subscribe!” Is a good approach.
Also… this video gained 3x to 6x the new subscribers to any other video. So, at least used in moderation, it does work!
I am huge fan of Lumix from a long time a go and thing this is my next and cam. But most importent is......... Is this Josh's shirt?😊
haha yes!! I'm surprised no one else said anything yet. He sent me one a while ago and I have my mics "permanently" attached to it ;-)
@@photojoseph love it and i have to take some. So, waiting for real hard tests of the X to check the differences. ProRes and external SSD recording is a game changer
Badazz!Thank you. Cant wait for the gh6 on steroids.Thanks again
You and me both!
Not sure if i can wait. So everything u shot in this vid is 24fps 4k. How about the 5.9k 30 or 4k 30? Is there 60? Pda and is just as good? Oh and how bout pda on hdmi raw formats. This video i keep going back to .about the time i purchase That pda gh6 will announce🎉Thank You
Let me applaud you for hanging onto and testing the 1.)Canon 85mm f/1.2 and 2.)Canon 100mm Macro. Two kick-ass lenses which NOW will work with this Lumix SLR type body and continuously autofocus. Well worth waiting for, and high performance on any camera body (finally). 👍
yeah I'm stoked I still have those. The only lens I sold from that collection was the 400mm f/4 as it was worth a lot and sadly at the time I needed the money!
Hi! Great job. Can I ask? Phase detection works in 4K 50p? Works in any resolution? Thanks
Is it useful for action sports please ?
Of course! At 30fps stills… heck yeah!
Seriously, I've binge-watched about 20 reviews on this thing and your review hits all thr important bits. Best review. Well done. I feel like this SiiX will be the perfect camera at that price point. Happy days! Panasonic finally came through with AF. I imagine it will only get better as firmware improves.
Wow, thanks! I really appreciate that.
Very slick, Joseph!
Thanks Bob!
Panasonic just give Lumix fans the best reason to stay with the brand. A little help please? I have a problem with Lumix when using flash. I would like to see the preview as exposed by my setting but without the flash. However, when I turn on the flash, Lumix always brighten the preview. I didn't have such problem with Olympus.
Thanks for watching. I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for… the flash will always change what the image looks like, so when you connect a flash, the camera automatically enables a mode where you can actually see the image clearly. The setting you're looking for is called "Constant Preview", but I don't know that you can disable it when a flash is connected.
@@photojosephlet's say I am shooting in manual exposure and TTL flash. With an Olympus I am see how my chosen aperture / shutter speed / ISO would expose a scene before flash so I can decide how much to underexpose so the flash will become the dominant light. On a Panasonic, constant preview is either on or off. If it's on, I cannot see preview of my chosen exposure only but chosen exposure + flash. Is there any way to see just preview of chosen exposure?
@@enduringtech822 interesting. If you can’t disable “constant preview”, then I’m going to say no, you can’t.
so one thing. In 1080 50p it loses pdaf and only uses dfd. Am I right? Because you are using a full frame sensor instead of apsc
Yes to still photo workflow
It’s in progress!
when you adapted EF lenses you only used primes , did you try telephoto zoom too ? are they incompatible with the s5ii ?
I only tested primes because that’s most of what I own and what I’m most interested in. I have an old 24-70/2.8 and 70-200/4 and those work too, but those lenses exist from Panasonic in L Mount so I was less interested to try.
@@photojoseph did the new autofocus worked too on the telephoto ?
@@solarion33 yes. Some lenses work better than others. I didnt stress test the 70-200 since I have that same lens in native L Mount though.
Can’t wait to try one.
☺️
Looks a great future for EF adapted glass!!!
no kidding, huh?! I was so surprised at this. Loved using the 85mm again!
@@photojoseph can you test the Sigma 18-35 in crop mode and the canon 70-200 EF (either f/2.8 or f/4) and tell me how they work? Thank you!
@@pauloancarvalho I want to see as well!
I really hope we get a G9 Mk 2 with PDAF.
Amazing overview! Exciting times!
And an amazing cage!
Great video Joseph, So So glad the auto focus has been nailed and long awaited....Panasonic have always been fantastic along with all the embedded little goodies that come along with them' I love the live comp mode... Anyhow great review and the best to you for 2023....Take care from the u. k....
Thank you!
J, do you think PDAF will be offered in a firmware update to current S1H owners, or is this just new (old) "tech" baked in to new cameras?
it's hardware, sorry
I watch so many of your videos and can’t believe I haven’t subscribed. You’re wife is right 😅
Haha thank you, I’ll be sure to tell her!
Sean from LUMIX USA said that PDAF doesn't work on FullHD 50fps. How does the contrast detect AF work in FullHD 50fps 10-bit? Is it reliable?
I haven't tested but it'd probably be the same as in previous LUMIX cameras. Keep in mind you can get PDAF at 4K50 or 4K60 but just not in full frame; only with the APS-C crop.
Hello, I have purchased Lumix S5 october 2022, and now you released a new S5II camera, why did Panasonic sell Lumix s5 camera with autofocus issue. all time S5 have a problem with autofocus. At least they have should recall application for all Lumix S5 cameras . They sell defective camera on 2 years. Now they corrected auto focus defect issue and call it Lumix S5II. This is not fair. I am felling like a donkey.
Thank you Panasonic.
I’m sorry you feel this way but it was not a defective camera. LUMIX cameras have had a contrast based auto focus system since forever. This is the first camera of a whole new generation of AF for LUMIX called PDAF. Your AF isn’t defective - PDAF is just better.
Sneaky intro showing off the new "Glove focus" focus mode! Great meeting you in person in Japan Joseph!
And i see you are also a very smart person listen to the wife :D
haha yeah the glove thing was sneaky, but also I gave it away with the thumbnail and the title… I dunno, I probably should have done it differently, but hopefully it was fun ;-) Japan was the best, wasn't it? Let's go back!!
haha she agrees
Sorry for being a bit out of topic, but I know you are very knowledgeable on these sorts of things...do you know if it's possible to live stream on youtube with my phone using what I am shooting with my Panasonic camera? Just like what the go pro is capable of doing, for example. Thanks!
The S5IIX will be able to, and the GH5II can today.
There's one thing everybody must admit: Panasonic always ends up listening to its core base customers. We wanted to keep the fully articulated screen on all cameras, done, no compromise; We wanted a full frame series, done; We wanted phase autofocus, finally done too.
Yep! Took a while but we got it. And this is only the beginning of the next “phase” for LUMIX 😊
great video as always.
I'm really curious about the software\app control on the s5ii as you covered it on the past on other lumix cameras.
my thinking is that if I could choose the focus point remotely on the computer\app for live streaming and it will stick dependently that would definitely encourage me to get a few s5ii..
So, you can change focus modes but I don’t believe you can attach the tracking target to a subject remotely, if that’s what you’re asking. But I wouldn’t rely on that for a live stream. Face detection works great and that’s what I’d use.
Wait, I need the link to those gloves!
Right? They're awesome!
@@photojoseph What are they called?? Where can I get some??
@@kylelowe “vallerret”, just like it shows on the label! They’re great.
Ah! it was too small on my screen. thanks!
I am so glad I held my ground with Panasonic. When I got the GH5 I wanted to sell it but then I found your channel and through your reviews and videos I stayed with the system. It made me a better filmmaker to shoot without autofocus. And ever since, I got a second camera which is the GH5s then the GH5ii and now the GH6. Every other camera I hold pales with in comparison and now, that the S5iiX is pre-ordered, I am so glad I believed in this brand and I look forward to them sweeping the market off its feet. Thank you Joseph for your efforts in each and every single video. I appreciate you
I love hearing that, thank you!
woohooo, it's here!! What do you guys think; are you as excited as I am?? Get yours here! geni.us/LumixS5II
Great stuff, PhotoJoseph!
Thanks for watching!
Embargo day!! Uhuuuu!! Nice video as always!! =)
Yay! Thank you brother!
That chart comparison was SO helpful no other channel did that and it gets so confusing to see what upgrades are worth it. Thank you.
You're welcome! I hope you found the full chart on my website as well at
pulse.ly/35iocw4o4p
We got finally autofocus but now I hear Lumix axed timecode 😪
Timecode wasn’t in the S5 either. Timecode is on the H cameras… GH5II, GH5S, GH6, BGH1, S1H.
For someone who started watching your videos from the good old GH5 autofocus test videos this is definitely a "new phase". I guess my wait to invest on the S5 was worth it. Something in my mind kept telling me to wait as there might be a new version of S5 or S1 coming up.
Great to hear! And thanks for watching for so many years ☺️
Great video per usual. I'd love to see you dedicate an entire video to Real-Time LUTs.
Awesome. It’s on the list!
Panasonic please, please, PLEASE show some love to Micro Four Thirds (GH series)
The S5iix will be the only camera to possibly make me move to full frame but I love the capabilities of my MFT camera.
You do know the GH6 just came out, right?
@@photojoseph Maybe you could show me where the Phased autofocus button is on my Gh6?
Yes yes do dedicated photo review with lut added. Can’t find one video on line yet covering this properly 👍
On it!
Yes please,adding luts to my photos, but what about video ,is that possible??
I don’t understand the question. The entire discussion of real-time LUT was for video, except my mention of what I’m most excited about. Yes I’ll do a follow up video on stills.
This is a little off topic but don't know where else to go with this. For photos, when using flash in Continuous AF there is about, what feels like, a .5 second lag from when the shutter button is pressed and the actual photo is taken. However, this is not the case when shooting in Single AF. Is there something that needs to be changed in the camera or with a firmware? Thanks again for all your help.
Interesting. Which strobes?
@@photojoseph I am using the Godox V860II
When you say HFR for the x version is that basically saying it will do 48p in 4K uncropped so a slightly slower alternative to no uncropped 60p? Or is there something different in calling it HFR versus just another 4K uncropped mode?
Check the chart at PhotoJoseph.com/S5II - HFR modes apply both cameras. It's the 10-bit S&Q that only applies to the S5IIX. The only difference between a "standard" frame rate and an HFR one is that HFR aren't common broadcast frame rates, so anything outside of 23.98, 29.97, 24, 25 and 59.94 qualify as HFR.
@@photojoseph I see, was confused because the fact some rates are only available in crop modes isn't shown under the HFR section. Hoping there might have been a FF 48p mode for lack of a 60. I realize it's hard to account for all the exceptions.
Recent subscriber (today - kudos to your wife). I am still sporting the Canon 5D Mark III, and the S5 II is really interesting (especially allowing me to adopt my EF lenses), but I use Godox AD200's. Would this S5 II use the Olympus Xpro-O 4/3 Godox controller, or is this more a Leica flash system. I've been thinking about going with the Canon EOS R6 II, but this has really captured my attention, especially at this price.
I work for Panasonic and can confirm we use the Olympus flash protocol. We even have 2 Godox flashes in our cabinet at the booth to Demo and many of our ambassadors use the Godox Oly transmitter.
All my flashes are Godox Olympus/Panasonic. They work great!
Great video as ever Joseph! Would definitely love to hear more about Real Time LUTs for photography/jpegs. I agree, really exciting feature!! Incidentally, does this mean this could mimic say Fujifilm's film simulation recipe feature (well, kind of!)? Keep up the work! Cheers 👍
Thanks! And yes, that's the idea!
@@photojoseph wow so cool, this could open up so many possibilities, well played Panasonic! Appreciate your super quick response too, thank you.
An off-topic comment: I really liked the camera zoom/move effect when you were sitting on the chair and leaning forwards and backwards. I think I'm going to steal this idea. I guess you did it in the post, right?
Thanks! And yes, in post. An advantage of shooting 6K for a 4K delivery!
Oh wait… maybe this was 4K to start… I don’t remember. But anyway 6K start is best and yes it’s done in post ☺️
does the s5II have livecompose for long exposure photos? That was missing from the GH6, but was on S5
it's NOT there! Dang… I wonder if this is left out of the latest OS for some reason. I will see what I can find out.
@@photojoseph Thanks, Joseph, I shoot quite a bit of night shots and that is an incredable feature.
Can't wait to get one!
Hi Joseph, the previous S line models are gonna get this new AF by firmware update?
I doubt it… they’ll need a whole new sensor… hardware issue and not a software one…
This is an entire new sensor, not something that can be upgraded by software.
Joseph, great review.
Which would you recommend the 5ii or the X?
That’s why I listed all the features here; so you can make your own decision!
@@photojoseph I’m going for the X, even though I am not that patient 😅
I am a canon shooter and also a lumix shooter, I kept my FZ2500 when I sold my other lumix camera as it had much better auto focus and better image quality than my g7.
I always said if Panasonic would just put phase detect af in their cameras they would have a killer of a camera.
No one puts all the features that Panasonic does at this price point.
My FZ 2500 is the same the features in that camera are just insane.
My canons are outstanding and do a excellent job, but I can always make room for a S5 mkii x
Outstanding job Panasonic!
That is awesome to hear!
That FZ2000 camera somehow is still in use on my productions too... Every year I'm thinking it's the last season and every year it proves useful again for outdoor sports Livestream. Like all Panasonic gear, it's feature packed, rock solid, but how it uses so little power in HD rec+ clean HDMI out remains a mystery.
@@mcronfpv8736 so true, it’s still a excellent camera in 2023 which is amazing if you think about it.
Plus it has built in nd filters which is crazy for a camera under a thousand dollars.
Great Video Joseph! :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
unbeatable specs for the price!
It really is a great value!
Is there PDAF shooting in 60fps in 1080p?
No. This is something I've just been learning about and trying to figure out. I don't have confirmation of this, but here's my theory. The S5II does 4K60 but only at APS-C. So for it to do 1080p60 at full frame, the only way that is logically possible is if the camera is pixel binning or line skipping (if it were scaling the full sensor readout, then it would also be able to do 4K60 full frame). The image looks too good to be line skipping, so it must be binning. Since PDAF is based on individual pixels, if the image is binning pixel data, then it probably can't access them for AF either. I have zero idea if this is a permanent limitation or something that can be addressed, but given Panasonic's history with firmware updates, if it can be done, I think it's safe to say that it will be done.
@@photojoseph Thanks for getting back! I hope it’s something they can fix with a FW update(if possible). If other brands can do it I’m hoping that Panasonic can too. Fingers crossed 🤞. Thanks for all your continued information.
So, just to be clear this isn’t unique to Panasonic. Canon has the same issue on some cameras. But yes, hopefully they can figure it out!
Does this camera take in the same lenses as a gh5
No, this is the full frame LUMIX line, with the L-Mount lenses. GH5 is Micro Four Thirds.
@@photojoseph Thanks pal
The pdaf doesn’t work in full hd 50p. You didn’t mention that.
Right - this was not information I had at the time and I've just been learning about and trying to figure this one out. I don't have confirmation of this, but here's my theory. The S5II does 4K60 but only at APS-C. So for it to do 1080p60 at full frame, the only way that is logically possible is if the camera is pixel binning or line skipping (if it were scaling the full sensor readout, then it would also be able to do 4K60 full frame). The image looks too good to be line skipping, so it must be binning. Since PDAF is based on individual pixels, if the image is binning pixel data, then it probably can't access them for AF either. I have zero idea if this is a permanent limitation or something that can be addressed, but given Panasonic's history with firmware updates, if it can be done, I think it's safe to say that it will be done.
@@photojoseph Thanks for your reply. It does have PDAF in 1080 25p though 🧐
Right. 25 fps is half the data and is scaled from the full frame 4K 25p image. The camera does 4k25 at full frame.
@@photojoseph Makes sense.
As a GH6 owner, this is very useful 5:57 , however i may wait for the S5iix to release for the additional features it has over the S5ii. Thanks for the review 👍
The GH6 has Synchro Scan too!
Can you please give details on the time lapse settings and features on this camera
Thanks for being a member! Why don't you take this conversation to our Discord, as there I can post a little video of the menus for you. If you're not already in the Discord, check your membership benefits page here on RUclips and you'll find a link to join the Discord.
Will s5 ii x have similar camera control / multicam functionality over wifi as the BGH1 and BS1H? I am hoping to combine it with those cams in a multicam environment using the lumix tether software to trigger start/stop and adjust camera settings.
Not over WiFi, just USB. The GH5 II can be controlled over ethernet with a USB-C to Ethernet adapter, so perhaps the same will happen with the S5IIX, but it's not announced at launch if it will.
@@photojoseph thanks! I’m hoping they include this
Hi Joseph, I might have missed you discussing this, so sorry if you did and I missed it.
In the original S5 the peaking on the rear screen wasn’t great when shooting 1080, and worse when shooting 4K. Is the peaking on the rear screen better with the S5 II?
you're talking about focus peaking? What do you mean by "wasn't great"… there's a bit of refinement you can do in focus peaking (changing the color and the sensitivity). There's no published differences but there may be some; let me know specifically what you're looking for.
@@photojoseph on the original the peaking on the rear display when shooting 4K wasn’t as apparent vs shooting 1080. I’m wondering if this is different now.
Sounds good! Would love to see a side by side comparison with the GH6 at some point
For AF? That’s not exactly fair 😅
What settings are you using for the portrait profile?
For the one shot that was in Portrait mode, I am pretty sure it was just in the default setting. That'd be the Canon 85mm lens demo. Is that what you mean?
@@photojoseph Yeah. Portrait was my goto on the GH4. May have to revisit.
Still not perfect, some delays
nothing is perfect but it's a pretty great first Phase camera for Panasonic
Lovely video as always!! I think the S52 is in line with the S5 in not getting the Optical Low Pass Filter (same as S1H) …what about the S52x in this respect? I use an S5 and S1H side by side a lot and it makes a big difference to the image on all focal lengths. I’ve wondered why this feature isn’t toggle-able??
Both S5II and S5IIX have the same sensor, both without LPF. It's not toggle-able because it's hardware. It's a physical filter on the sensor that blurs the image slightly to eliminate moire. By removing it (as LUMIX has done since the GX8), you get a sharper image at the expense of potential moire.
@@photojoseph ahhhh…ok. Interesting. Thanks mate. I think the S52x still sounds better on paper than the S1H for me, especially getting open gate at 25fps( for us citizens of the Commonwealth) so I’ll sell the S1H to buy the S52x and keep my Black Pro Mists handy!
Pulsing, pulsing and pulsing
where?