I knew a girl who got sent to the office for "bleaching her hair" she had naturally bleach blonde hair and had literally never been seen with any other color of hair and had gone to that school disticet since kindergarten
I had a friend in elementary school who was sent to the principal's office for having green hair (because it was an "unnatural hair color")! She was naturally super light blonde and had gone swimming in a chlorinated pool. Thankfully, the principal thought the rule was stupid...
Yea definitely agree mistakes are made in these situations. Some of it is bias, some the fact that it's a complicated concept to deal with, the punishments often don't fit the infraction and the one size fits all idea doesn't work either. It's a mess.
There was a reddit post about a girl who had a streak of white hair similar to the xmen character. She dye it once but malicious comply when they told her not to dye it again. School thought she dye that part of her white. The parents brought with them family photos showing the white streak. School officials back down so fast.
This happened to my mom in communist Romania. In summer her hair got blonder from the sun, and she got in trouble for it since students weren't allowed to colour their hair.
I vividly remember my sisters (who have much thicker hair than I) get dress coded for their HAIR. Saying their curls were too “unprofessional.” I also go dress coded for distracting male teachers AND students while wearing a long sleeved black shirt. Apparently it wasn’t the clothing item that was the problem…it was me. Apparently my body was the problem and I was encouraged to wear more layers of clothing/hoodies to cover up so my “parts” so to speak wouldn’t show as much.
I get that if you wear something like a corset, costume, or otherwise clothing that you wouldn’t wear in day-to-day life that it would be dress coded. (Not saying that you did) But if you are dress coding based on body type, it’s not dress coding, it’s discrimination.
My school doesn’t allow tank tops, doesn’t allow “short” shorts/skirts, and you can’t show any midrif. The school-issued cheer uniforms has tank tops, super short skirt, and shows a ton of midrif.
When I went to school up until middle school or so shorts had to be at least mid thigh even though we were mostly wearing shorts that were close to the knees
It also doesn't help that many dress codes are entirely open to interpretation. A friend's 8-year-old daughter got dress coded a couple of weeks ago. Two teachers said her outfit was "inappropriate" (no specifics offered), while her regular teacher and the principal said it was fine. The outfit in question was a charming blue floral romper that hit just above her knees, covered her chest, and had fairly thick spaghetti straps topped with bows. I've seen more scandalous outfits in a Southern Baptist church. She looked...like an 8-year-old girl.
An 8 year old girl, not wearing anything anything at all, shouldn't be seen as "inappropriate" since... well, she's EIGHT. Whoever finds it "inappropriate" or "distracting" is a creep.
Something they don't want to clarify in the dress codes is that the distractions aren't just referring to other students. They're also trying to limit how distracting the outfits are for teachers who themselves have poor self-control.
i had a girl in my class dress coded for “being able to see her bra”. she was wearing a long sleeve shirt with a neckline up to her neck. there was a light outline of the padding. it was in no way distracting and absolutely ridiculous, it left literally everything up to imagination
I have a large chest and have had to worry about being dress coded constantly. When I was in 5th grade I was told to cover up because my bra strap was showing. I was wearing a dark green shirt and the outline was barely visible. Plus, the teacher was pretty far away from me so she was actively looking at my chest at 11 years old. Grown adults really need to stop staring at children's body's, girl, boy, doesn't matter.
No one should be staring at your child, adolescent or adult body. Look is one thing, but staring is another level. It’s creepy to stare at anyone regardless of age. I don’t consider anyone pubescent to have an adult nor a child body. I consider it as adolescent, nor are children and adolescent bodies attractive. Even if you was post puberty or 18+ it’s still a no. Ps. Anyone who finds adolescent or children body attractive needs help.
My junior year, a girl was coded for her shirt being slightly cropped, and the next day, almost everyone wore a crop top to protest. And we had multiple students conduct surveys that show that girls, especially plus-sized girls, got coded much more often than any boys
Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser.
My middle school forced us to only wear clothes that are a solid color, because apparently having a shirt or pants or a jacket with more than one color on it is too distracting.
I once got dresscoded in middle school for wearing my school's PE shorts. On the first day of 6th grade I got coded for wearing a blue shirt with a denim skirt because more than one blue item was considered "gang affiliation." They can genuinely just be so nonsensical.
Reminds me of my middle school. They considered all but solid black and white as gang colors. We weren't allowed to wear colors, even outside of school as they would patrol the area to ensure we were following the rules. You didn't even realize you got caught until the next school day when you were given a detention slip. They tried to control it down to our underwear. A girl got her period and leaked on her white underwear. She was expelled for it. I got yelled at for wearing a colored swimsuit to the pool by my science teacher during summer vacation. The MAYOR himself and his family saw this and chewed out the teacher. PLOT TWIST: The biggest gang in our area had their colors be black and white.
I’m glad matpat finally covered this topic, and in such detail. It’s seriously unfair what students have to go through just to stay in class. I’ve heard horror stories from so many friends about being forced to switch out clothing in front of school staff, among other things.
In high school I was a modest student, always covered up and got dress coded for having two stripes of blue in the front of my hair. A teacher tried to make me go to the cosmetology class and get it dyed back to a "natural" color ... a month after i did it. I told her absolutely not and if it was a problem someone should have said something weeks ago. 🙄
In my place, there is a student who is naturally blonde. (I'm a Filipino by the way). Before she went to our place, everyone already knows that she is blonde (her father is a European). But to our shock and dismay, the school administration wanted her to dye her hair black. Which is WTF!
@@onellbrianmeliston8960 bobo school admin 🙄 when my (post graduate) school suddenly enforced a no colored hair policy I shaved my head to assert dominance. I can't have unnatural hair color if I don't have hair.
No one should give a f!!k about hair color! If I have rainbow HAIR and purple swimming shorts WHO cares lol, im sorry that happened to you dang schools suck.
I remember wearing a cute maroon dress back in High school that was above the knees. Almost got written up for wearing something "inappropriate" but when I pointed out why was my dress wrong but the cheerleaders and dance team dress codes were basically booty skirts.
Talk about double standards, they should be ashamed of themselves. While I don’t have a problem with revealing clothing, but I have a problem with overly revealing clothing in public. I’m okay with short denim shorts, and sports shorts, tights, or even crop tops. I’m not a saying that I am a pervert, we all as guys are attracted to the way women look, it’s natural, like guys are attractive to girls, but I have a definite problem with overly revealing clothing in school in public spaces.
I was dresscoded once because my “chest was distracting the teachers and students” I was wearing a blouse buttoned all the way, a shin length skirt and a cardigan. I was 14 and already embarrassed enough that I had a EU 70F cup.
My last school disapproved any crop-tops or make-up excluding light LIGHT make-up because "we should focus on our studies and not on our looks" so one day our whole class including boys came in with short skirts, crop-tops and full make-up. Let's just say our sterotypical teacher wasn't happy
I say I support the make-up ban because make-up is very bad for the skin, especially teenagers. Teenagers are more prone to acne, and when you add make-up to it, it just makes it way worse. So, teens shouldn't really wear make-up until their done with puberty and their acne relaxes. I'm saying this as a teen myself, so don't think I'm some boomer.
In high school, the girls kept getting dress coded for their shorts when it was hot out, and the boys protested by all coming to school in booty shorts 😂
Never going to get over how as a FIRST GRADER I was already stressing about whether my tank top straps were too narrow. Like dude, a 6-year-old wearing spaghetti straps should not be distracting to anybody!!!
Call the police to open an investigation on anyone who claims she’s distracting in spaghetti straps like wtf if they think that THEY’RE an actual danger to the children they’re trying to teach
It's very unfair. I was a National Merit Scholar. Two kids made a slap bet over whether I could get dress coded even if I TRIED because it seemed like certain kids were targeted. It took me about five months and a lot of effort before my spaghetti strap tank top with neon bra straps sticking out and very short shorts that I wore that final day did the job! I was about three days from graduating! Tons of kids in my grade were in on this, and the other choir kids cheered when I came back in itchy sweatpants and a neon green t-shirt. I still didn't get detention.
Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser.
My school would always claim that a baseball hat is a “security threat” as it can conceal your face from security cameras, however, it’s okay if it’s during a spirit day or if it was bought from the school (I.E. school logo/name). Then it's suddenly no longer a threat.
our school took this to a whole new extreme, made us buy £30 sports hoodies if we wanted to wear them around the school and then banned them completely unless you’re in PE (for the 2 lessons every fortnight) or outside. if it was raining we would be made to take them off outside in the rain before coming in, getting soaked in the process.
I can attest to this. I was always “bigger” than every other girl in my class. I wasn’t allowed to wear tank tops or anything that revealed even the tiniest bit of cleavage, I couldn’t help that shirts fit me in a different way. It got so bad that one day, on a field trip to a amusement/water park, I almost got heat stroke because I was wearing a black hoodie in the summer heat. The only thing I had under it was a tank top, they reluctantly let me wear the tank top only after I almost passed out.
God I feel that, I got cat called in my 1st year of middle school while only wearing a t-shirt that had a small v-cut neckline and it made me feel so gross and uncomfortable I wore zipped up hoodies until collage. I live in south Texas where the average is 95+ degree weather in blaring sunlight 😭
Yeah I went to Catholic school until high school. I remember we couldn't have skirts higher than 2 inches above our knees and we used to roll-up our skirts and then roll them back down whenever the nuns were coming. Although my biggest issue is that girls had to wear dresses when we were younger and skirts when we were older. I would have preferred to wear pants.
I literally had a friend in high school get into a TON of trouble because her bra strap slipped down her shoulder and you could see it peaking out of her shirt (or at least that's what the Male teacher said). Meanwhile a girl who was on the varsity track team and academic team wore mini skirts and Daisy Duke style shorts and the school administration never batted an eye. MatPat missed the part where some schools favor their Athletic and Academic (specifically Academic Team, FBLA, etc) students over their other students.
I got yelled at twice FROM ACROSS THE ENTIRE DAMN HALLWAY to take my headband off because it was a bandana. The excuse was that it was too much like a hat, despite other students being allowed to wear them. I guess I was the exception due to being mixed and poor girl in a predominantly wealthy white school.
I hate how strict schools are on the no hat/hoodie rule cause it “makes it harder to recognize u” like btch pls, getting a fcking haircut sounds like a better way to stop urself from getting recognized than wearing the exact same fcking hat to school everyday, especially in classes that have assigned seating, like, how th u gonna say, “u can’t recognize me” if someone that looks exactly like me is sitting in my assigned seat, THAT U FCKING PUT ME IN.
I’ll never forget being a first or second grader hearing my friend be told she couldn’t wear a tank top because of the “3 fingers rule”, especially when the reason given for those rules is that they might be distracting. If you are being “distracted” by a 7 year old, jail immediately. Also I disagree with the no logos rule, kids don’t have to deal with trademarks and saying someone can’t wear a shirt with a logo out of it will siglehandedly destroy the closets of most middle school boys who only wear Nike or a similar brand every day
Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser.
Once a teacher saw that I was wearing the color white (girls weren't allowed to wear white at my middle school, boys were) and I thought that she was going to give me a write-up, but instead she pulled me out of class halfway through the school day because she bought me a new shirt so that I wouldn't be dresscoded by any other teachers.
I go to school in a german gymnasium and as long as our clothes aren’t showing the “private areas” we are allowed to wear whatever we want (except hats for some reason). It doesn’t change our learning in any way and the students are extremely peaceful for the most part. Most of the teachers are even chill enough to just let uns get up in the middle of class to go to the toilet without saying anything. That said there are some weird rules as well. For example we are not allowed to sit on the floor during the breaks.
I grew up in germany, and i was actually surprised that a thing such as dresscodes even existed. None of the schools i went to ever had any regulations on clothes, unless it was actually offensive, of course
Same. I’m American but I was in Germany for 1st-4th grade, and dress codes were quite the shock for me. No one had to wear a uniform in Germany, but in the US? It was insane.
Probably a different in what many Kids there would wear compared to here. Many here would wear shorts so short up the thigh, shirts showing too much chest. Basically like dressing for a club not a professional place. But it happens everywhere I guess. Generational differences
Can confirm that when I was school aged in Sweden it would have never entered my mind that the school should care that some teen students dressed very skimpy and provocativly or had a kind of disheveled street style. I still really don’t get why schools in other countries care what students wear as long as they are comfortable. When the video said dresscodes exists ”litterally everywhere” that was a bit of an exaggeration…
I feel like schools should’ve stressed about hygiene way more than clothes. Kids PURPOSELY skipping out on deodorant BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY DID NOT SMELL was more distracting than some of the “inappropriate” clothing.
seriously they need to let some students get showers and deodorant at school, and as someone who once lived in a very unhygienic house (of which i had no control over) I have sympathy for some stanky mfers.
I remember a kid in my high school who wore so much axe body spray you knew if he had been in a classroom long after he physically left. And no one ever said anything to him.
I remember my principal flat out threatened to keep girls from attending our senior prom if they didn't wear a dress, meanwhile some of the boys were wearing scruffy jeans and sneakers. One guy had a sleeveless shirt on ffs!
my year decided that there was nothing they could do to stop us as half of the kids were never coming back to the school and the ones that were have absolutely zero respect for uniform policy. we had tits out everywhere, full length leg slits in dresses, multiple girls in suits, the trans guys in suits as well, a few skirt/suit-top combos and many criminally high heels. it was the ultimate rebellion for us, since we’re an all girls grammar school where the uniform is so strict that i’ve been threatened with detention for not having the top button on my shirt done up (i had cut off said button to avoid using it because it’s suffocating).
@@StarField369 Yeah...our principal didn't seem to have any issues with the girls wearing low cut clothing as long as it was a dress. However, during the school year, so many of my classmates got in trouble for being indecent just because they had well endowed chests and sometimes showed an inch or two of cleavege. The only girls that didn't where the ones on the track and baseball teams. So take of that what you will 🤷♀️
For all of the students out there that find it frustrating, remember that some of your teachers may as well. My friend (teacher of several years now) was actually called out by the principle because she had dark blue pants. Those pants were _not_ denim, but the principle deemed it as jeans anyway, and thus, inappropriate. She couldn't wear them again. This has happened with more than one teacher at that school.
I was once dress coded by a teacher at lunch, while trying to get to the principal's office to report my lunch money stolen and call my parents for some food. 15 years later and I'm still mad about that one. No consequences for the person who literally stole from me, but God forbid you can see my cleavage.
I work at a school, and I find dress codes incredibly unfair. Targeting a kid because of what they wear makes them not want to come to school. Some can’t afford clothes that would meet the criteria.
And I’ve found that dress codes are mostly targeted towards girls I got dress coded for spaghetti straps in middle school while a boy was running around campus shirtless
Multiple guys at my school wore “send noods” shirts to school and they never got dresscoded but ive seen a girl get dresscoded for jean shorts that were longer than average jean shorts because there was some small holes on the jean shorts even though it wasnt revealing or anything and the holes were towards the bottom and mostly covered
A boy can whip the wrench out. Have it powered up. And shave their chest. Yet the teachers don't care. But oh no the jeans that 4 year old is wearing is Too inappropriate for revealing their ankles!
Imagine being taken out of class and needing an adult to bring you new shirt because you came to school in a purple polo instead of a navy blue polo because being colorblind you couldn't see the difference getting dressed in the morning.
not only do schools pick at clothing from different races and stuff, but they also pick on them because of their body type which is really sad. i see some smaller body types in girls wearing really short shorts at my school and they never get dress coded, but when it comes to a person with a bigger body type, they get dress coded because of whatever reason they think of.
Most of the girls in my class wear crop tops all spring and summer, but I get complaints when I wear a full length shirt. If I try to wear a skirt or shorts I'll get crucified. Hate that knee length rule, at a certain height you simply cannot find anything that length.
in my high school, one girl asked why she couldn’t wear leggings (in a class that was only full of girls) to gym class, our teacher (a woman) started off by saying “well, the guy teachers would be uncomfortable…”
I remember when I was 14 I was at an all girls school and we had no uniform days. We asked why we couldn’t wear spaghetti straps if there were no boys. This grown woman said to me without stuttering, “because of the male teachers”. It disgusted me.
At my school girls weren't allowed to wear sweatpants while guys could, and one girl ended up getting suspended over it but she fought back and got her suspension overruled, which ended up changing the dresscode :)
I once had a friend who wore a skirt to school and this kid who was much bigger than her touched underneath inappropriately and so she went to a counselor to talk about and the kid didn’t get in trouble, but she got dress coded and was forced to put on pants like wtf Texas?
that is the def of victim blaming and it is as follows Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser. Questions such as “What were you wearing?” “Were you drinking?” “Did you scream?” “Did you fight back?” are all examples of victim blaming. These types of questions suggests that the victim played a role in the assault and should be held partly responsible.
I got dress coded in high school for having hair that was "Too long and Distracting". I had dark curly hair that went to the middle of my back. They told me to get a hair cut, but my culture views cutting hair as an act of deep shame. This applies to both men and women. My Mom and I argued the case and won, but needless to say I transferred to another school very quickly.
I once got automatic detention way back in the 5th grade because I had forgotten to take off this black sweater that I had on over my school uniform and the principal felt like I was being disrespectful... to the school's uniform 💀 (I wish I was making this up)
In high school, the boys were allowed to wear muscle t-shirts, but us girls had to wear short sleeves minimum. Boys could wear shorts as long as they werent too tight, we couldn't wear shorts or dresses above the knee. I'm still livid thinking back on it.
My sister was scolded because her shirt showed part of her side and stomach when she reached over her head to grab things from her locker. Because, you know, shirts move when you raise your arms. On the other hand, there were boys who came to school in just overalls. No shirts at all. Or those shirts that basically have no side and they showed their sideboob all day long. But because they were boys, it didn't matter, apparently. I still remember being in 10th grade and in our chemisty class we did a demonstration of vacuums where you could get into a bag with just your head sticking out and have the air vacuumed out and i don't remember what the actual reason why we did this, but a whole bunch of guys did it so i decided to try it, too. Afterwards, someone told me in a horrified tone that the outline of my bra straps and band in the back was visible. As if it would be a surprise to anyone that a sophmore who was obviously busty had a bra on. 🤦♀️
It is unfortunate to say but the dress codes of revealing clothing may often be more so for teachers. It is terrifying how many teachers I knew/found to be convicted of those crimes
Then they need to keep a better eye on those teachers and on who they hire in the first place! Restricting students' clothing isn't gonna stop creepy teachers*. Those teachers didn't develop pedo tendencies because of their student's scarce clothing, they've had these tendencies from the start and then decided to become teachers so they could satisfy it to some extent! *you know, women in Saudi Arabia cover not just their shoulders and knees, but their entire body including the face, yet Saudi Arabia isn't exactly the safest place on earth for women... 💁♂️
one girl i know got dress coded constantly for her skirt being too short, but our uniform was kilts. they came with specific waist:length ratios, and she was tall and slim. they didn’t make them long enough while still able to fit around her waist. on the other side i’m short and have wide hips, my skirts were reaching nun levels before i changed to trousers.
It also sucks how "thicker" students (usually girls and brown) get reprimanded much more. They could be wearing the exact same thing as another skinny student, but because they're thicker, it's "inappropriate and distracting"
@@shieldofwrath nope. Thicker. As in big butts, thicker thighs, etc. You know? I guess the "fat" students would get dress coded too, tho there werent many in my school and I don't know any either personally, so i cant speak for them. But it was mostly the thicker (and coincidentally hispanic female) students. I was one of them 😬😬
I went to a mostly white high school so race wasn't much of a part of it, but I'm white and hit puberty a lot faster than other kids and was a lot more filled out and thicker, and this happened to me constantly
Yeah, I've heard of that happening at my school. I also overheard a Mexican girl tat my school alking about how she and other brown girls in her gym class would always be punished for not wearing the gym uniform meanwhile the white girls faced no repercussions for doing the exact same thing.
that's actually an interesting point; how many teachers feel *really* uncomfortable at the idea of dress coding students? how many are being pressured in some way? I'd like to know that.
in my country (Denmark) public schools have neither uniforms nor dresscodes, and when a teacher last year commented on a 16 y/o girl wearing a crop top, the whole country protested and the teacher was fired immediately
Here’s an idea- -Cover privates -Wear deodorant (smelling is more destructing than an annoying shirt) -No majorly offensive garment with offensive staitmrnts -Closed toed shoes (to keep from stub into the toe) -Nothing majorly destracting (like a clown costume) There. Problem solved
ngl i genuinely believe that these rules are in place because of what makes the adult, supposedly professional teachers comfortable, and actually has little to do with keeping the students safe *or* successful
Yeah, tagerting kids is terrible no matter what it is, if your out to ruin a kids day because of your personal opinion or you think its your obligation, your not beneficial to begin with.
@@geekgirl616 They shouldn’t be tempted at all no matter what the CHILDREN wear! The teachers are put there to educate! Not to be creepy AT ALL they should be in JAIL if they are having those thoughts about CHILDREN!
@@amandajoseph1614 While I agree with the sentiment of that statement it's disturbingly close to Thought Crime which is /// almost ///( Emphasized for a reason) equally as gross and disgusting. Remember you can think about as many crimes as you want but the moment you act on it, or in some cases even voice the urge to do it, that is the line. Be wary of this line in the future.
I think next Matpat should talk about backpacks, since there are schools that are not allowing students to carry them throughout the day, or completely banning them. It was a major issue for me when I was in middle school, having to carry all of my heavy books by hand and constantly having bullies knock them over
Really? Is it a "women pockets" kinda situation? look at those children and their backpacks. what could they be carrying in them? who knows? MAYBE SOMETHING ILLEGAL!!!
i remember seeing a thread of students where that happened, and the stuff they were using in place of it that wasnt banned by current rules. like one kid brought a baby stroller, one was using a janitor cart, one had a carry on suit case
There are places where the teachers are the ones moving from class to class, not kids, BECAUSE the kids are expected to bring a lot of material in one day and changing it every day, and asking them to bring it around it unfeasible These places are called Europe
We had a case at a middleschool a couple years back where the principal outlawed crop tops because he ruled it was distracting for the male students. Social media was then used as a weapon, as students (male and female) took to tiktok to protest over the ridiculous decision, and that they should have the right to wear whatever they wanted. 2 weeks later the ban was lifted.
My family told me to just ask " then why are you looking?" Whenever I got in trouble for it. I was dressed in plain normal clothes and still got dresscoded.
Something I've noticed about my school is that they are more biased about body types and gender rather race. Like you can wear a spaghetti strap tank top if you have a smaller bust but not if it's a larger bust. Which is still really unfair 😕
Dress codes have, and always shall be, about maintaining control: control over attitude, control over character, and control over understanding. In an academic setting, this makes sense: you are literally teaching children about the world around them... but their reaching implications, especially in later years of education, are alarming and dangerous.
The real problem with dress codes is that the fashion industry makes girls shorts much shorter than boys shorts. Makes it hard to find shorts that are an "acceptable" length
Agreed, when I was in high school and had a PE class, I had to wear appropriate length, black shorts. I went shopping with my grandmother and EVERY woman’s athletic shorts were so small I would consider them underwear! I’m also on the heavier side so no way in hades were those fitting me, and I ended up having to get MEN’S shorts, not exactly a boost to my self-esteem. But at least it was appropriate.
@@actualaspienc1279 so true. I also remember going back to school shopping with my sister and she would always insist on going to Justice (😝). I always remember my mom doing fingertip checks with the shorts she wanted and hardly any of them passed
That was an rule at my district but they got rid of it for an 3in inseam becuse their was a lot of kids (I’m one of them) where they had longer arms than the average kid but most teachers don’t call us out unless it’s to small and/or showing our underwear
OH MY GOSH because of my family’s religious beliefs, we don’t wear clothing that is super revealing. My mom has spent so many hours for my older sisters sewing their prom dresses so that they are modest.
I was also once told to put on a sweater because my shirt was too thin and it looked "lewd". Admittedly the shirt was a bit thin and you could kinda see the outline of my bra in it. But nothing feels quite like getting slut shamed as a preteen because you have tits and poor parents that can't get you a new tshirt that isn't nearly thread bare so your teacher tells you to put on a sweat shirt in 95 degree weather.
Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser.
I would also like to point out that body size also matters when it comes to bias in dress codes. I would wear the same thing as a skinny girl and I would get in trouble and she wouldn’t. I was once told by a teacher that my body is more distracting than other kids. I also did horrible in school towards the end. I didn’t get to walk at graduation because I was supposed to stay another year. Half way through that extra year, I dropped out and got my GED. It was insanely easy for me to get. Like, I didn’t even need to study. I felt like I could have passed it freshman year if I had known I could.
Exactly. I was kinda disappointed that he didn’t talk about this in the video. Once I was behind some girls heading into pe and they were all wearing basically the same shirts-which I should add they wore pretty much everyday. The pe teacher checked the first two in, but the last girl who was a bit chubbier than the others, instead was asked “where’s the rest of your shirt” I felt so disgusted and felt horrible for her, and that was in middle school.
As an Australian kid, I always found the "keep your shoulders covered" rule hell in school. It's like, dudes! It's 35°C today, do you really expect me to be directly in the sun?? (The rules was there for sun reasons)
I go to a school that has us outdoors all day once a week, including the summer. We would be required to wear long sleeves and pants (no t shirts or shorts) even when it got to almost 100 Fahrenheit/37ish Celsius
I once read a book inspired by all of the unfair dress codes schools had. Dress Coded by Carrie Firestone highlighted how dress codes made girls hate themselves. Some even moved schools. Dress codes should be how it is at the end. A bottom, top, shoes, no profanity or inappropriate stuff on shirts, but other than that, you be you.
There still needs to be modesty. Young boys and girls need to be fully and completely clothed no matter what. No revealing clothes at that young of an age
I always hated how my school forced boys to have short hair, all styled the same, while they had no trouble with a girl having long or short hair- Its just a stupid rule made for no reason other than to annoy students 😭
@@Dallop-ru2 Oh no, if you were a boy and had the hair different to the stereotypical "boy hair" you were inmediatly put in detention until you had your hair cut
@@ilan_profile Its really annoying that used to happened but im so glad I wasn't around back then cause my hair is naturally long and curly. School sucked and still sort of does.
@@BadNameJackson many schools around the world are very much still like this. I'm in Australia, and we have gendered uniforms / enforced hair standards / so on. England does too. I also know many countries in Asia are much the same
@@riley530 Can confirm about India, We too have god awful uniform and hair codes for boys as well as girls until the end of secondary highschool (11th-12th) which is about 16-17 years olds.
I know I read somewhere (actually, many somewhere's) that one of the reason dress codes can be so strict (especially to girls) is to keep the teachers from being distracted. Like, if a teacher is going to become distracted by a shoulder, they shouldn't be teaching in the first place.
At my middle school i went to, they honestly didnt care what you wore, a kid showed up in a crop top with spaghetti straps and short shorts as well as flip flops, heavy makeup, lots of sharp jewelry, and the school didn't care honestly im so dang glad my school never really cared-
I remember in 5th grade having a talk in class about dress codes. About how one person in tall and one is short but both wear a medium shorts size. If the rule is the shorts can’t be shorter then the the length of the finger tips when standing straight. The short person is going to pass the test but for the tall person the shorts will be too short. I remember this classroom conversation vividly.
As the rail-thin long legged tall girl, I feel this on a spiritual level. It was worse at church where shorts had to touch the ground when you knelt on your knees. I wore gaucho pants two sizes too big to avoid them being tight (cinched in with a belt to the point of fabric folds) and I was told they were too LONG. I got in trouble for covering MORE skin.
My school recently introduced a new rule that long dresses are forbidden as it could be a form of "religious expression" because they think any MENA student wearing them is wearing a jellaba. Even though it isn’t a religious clothing item. My class consists of mostly Muslim girls who wear modest clothing and they’ve been dress coded multiple times. But the funny thing is, two girls were wearing the same dress just a different pattern. The Moroccan girl was sent to the principal’s office while the teacher said nothing to the Chechen girl, knowing she was muslim too. But that girl has blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin while the Moroccan girl was tanned with dark hair and eyes. Honestly such a silly rule because no teacher bats an eye at girls wearing skin tight SKIMS dresses or low rise jeans with their g-strings literally visible.
Dude, isn't it literally illegal to ban something because it's religious expression? Like, it's part of the American constitution. Unless this isn't in America??
By that logic, the yahmaha (Jewish skull cap) and religious necklaces would have to be banned, as well as all other religious clothing and accessories.
A group of senior boys at my school wore crop tops for about a week and never got in trouble. Multiple girls have worn slight crop tops and get dress coded right away
I went to a non-American high school. we do wear school uniforms but that's about it. We can style our hair however we want, wear small accessories, we can wear vests/jackets over our uniform. And the best thing about it was that we can wear sneakers and not have to wear proper school shoes. I always went crazy with my socks, always buying cute designs like strawberry prints lol and my classmates would often notice. It was huge boost to my confidence.
In middle school we weren’t allowed to wrap out hoodies our waist- the reason “it could fall off and someone running in the halls could trip.” I don’t think I should get in trouble for my hoodie get onto the person running in the hallways 💀
A lot of girls in middle school do that actually either for fashion choice or because they are scared they might get their period and have it bleed through their pants. I wore the same jacket around my waist every day for a year because I was so paranoid. If a teacher were to say “no you can’t wear it like that” I would be have so scared every day.
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@@SethLowery-kr4uo Alright, but you have to be an idiot to wear something that is objectively seductive or attention-seeking while having full knowledge that what you wear is meant to attract men.
At my school we weren’t allowed to wear hats. I get that with big hats with obstructing the view of the board and everything, but honestly I wouldn’t really notice someone wearing a hat until a teacher would point it out. That was more disrupting than the person wearing the hat.
I remember once having a student passing by me in high school. She was wearing a spaghetti strap crop top and the shortest shorts ever. She wasn't dress coded since she had a baggy jacket on that she could just zip up during classes, but the shorts weren't long enough to be seen under the jacket. She wasn't written up or even pulled aside from teachers who were standing outside their classrooms
When I was in school back in the 90s, one that stood out to everyone was Corduroys. Nobody, literally nobody, including the teachers and principle, had the slightest idea why it was on the list of banned clothing items. The closest to a reasonable theory (heh) that I heard was that "maybe it's a gang thing?" But I grew up in the middle of nowhere. The closest thing we had to gangs were groups of little old ladies who wore red hats. That was it! To this day I still have absolutely no idea what might have gotten them banned.
Corduroys convert your body in to a walking stun gun. Your legs build up static electricity as you walk, then when you touch someone - ZAP!! 🤣 J/K - I mean, they do that, but not to the point of being banned. I grew up wearing corduroys in the winters - at worst, other kids made fun of your pants. 🤷♂️
I grew up in NE, and the only dress codes are don’t wear shorts for the second and third periods (because it’s cold and unpredictable) and no hats because it shows “Disrespect” and “Wanting to go outside”.
It’s not even just the difference between if somebody’s male or female, it also makes a huge difference on if they’re openly lgbtqia+ or not. I have a giant purple blanket-hoodie, I think the technical name for it is a comfy, and I’ve worn it to school multiple times and have never gotten dresscoded for it. I’m, at first glance, a straight female. Now, I give that comfy to my friend, who is openly trans/non-binary, and they wear it to school, and they get dress-coded almost immediately. It’s supposed to be completely unbiased but it’s not, and something needs to change.
I'm an 12 year old girl that developed fast, so I have the body of about a 14 year old, I was wearing ripped jeans and the rips only went up to my knees, the principle came up to me while I was getting on the bus and told me that with my body shape I can't wear that and she didn't want to see me wearing tight clothes or anything with holes in them. Made me feel really self conscious about my body and I hated every second of the conversation.
thing girls are taught at EXTREMELY young ages are heartbreaking. Kidnapping (for me, it was the first lesson i was taught.) inapporpiate clothing, or simply looking too pretty is a dangerous thing.
dress codes are also biased, more for girls, than boys. i do remember getting suspended for 2 days for not wearing a belt i went to a private school and i was 6! Now home schooled, no dress codes lol, dont even need to get dressed!😅
This video reminds me of a story one of my teachers told me. He told us that the uniform of his school said that boys had to wear pants and girls could wear pants and shorts. It was really hot outside so to rebell the boys wore skirts to school until the school changed the uniform to allow shorts and it actually worked.
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My school dress coded having your hair out, they said it was distracting. But they only ever brought it up for the girls. Sometimes I wonder what on earth goes through the writers of these codes heads.
11:20 Also for those that don't know and from outside the community, Durags are a tool used to help achieve a short cut black hairstyle called "waves" where our hair becomes a wavy texture which IS considered professional but those making the rules don't understand we need it to get that hairstyle and only associate it with pop culture or gang culture .
This is a problem I definitely had to deal with as a kid bc I've always had long hair bc since I'm Hawaiian I find it the best way to represent that half of my culture but I grew up in a small town in northern Minnesota and it was a problem at first but I was grateful enough to have a mother who fought for how I should be allowed to express my culture. They eventually gave up and changed the hair rule
Fellow nesian and I’m happy for you, but how on earth is long hair distracting?! Unless it was about how it was tied, then I can relate. Our student council had to fight to allow ponytails, and I still got told off 😑
Some of my classmates did an "experiment" - the girls wore tank tops while the boys wore muscle tanks, and the girls got in trouble while the boys did not. I remember one girl being quite tall, with longer arms, legs, and fingers. Even though the shorts she was wearing were appropriate and allowed, she got in trouble for wearing them 🤦♀
I remember the amount of things banned for “relating to gang activity” like colored hair and any kind of head covering. The real kicker? I grew up in the middle of nowhere. As rural as you can get. THERE WEREN’T GANGS. The closest you got was groups of escaped cattle causing property damage, or the gang tags on the trains that came in from Chicago, over a thousand miles away.
I recall reading a book called After that was about a school's response to a school shooting in the news. It started enforcing new policies that they thought would keep everyone safe but all this did was winnow down the student body through various suspensions as each rule targeted another group. The first rule was banning the color red as a gang color, and a girl whose brother died of AIDS got suspended for wearing a red AIDS ribbon that she'd worn every day since her brother's diagnosis. The rules continued on all the way to searching the students' lockers and evaluating the books each kid was reading.
My school banned the color "red" saying it was a "gang color". To which I responded with "Any color can be a gang color", they agreed, nothing changed. I also said "never challenge someone's creativity, you will lose" in response to this. I asked why red was banned, they asked what color I see worn most by gangs, so I said "black" and they said "no, you see red". It was ridiculous
i had uniforms at my school, but they still had so much discrimination and regulation issues… we were required to wear specific skirts but still girls with longer legs or larger hips got told their skirts were too short when that’s what fits their bodies
My schools is currently experiencing this and it’s very frustrating. I am a student who weighs a lot more than others and I’ve had my bra strap showing in front of teachers for over half the year and didn’t get in trouble once. Several of my friends who weigh less than me and are more sporty have had their bra strap shown once and the immediately got in trouble with the teachers. :(
I had a friend in school who would wear a thin strapped tank top and walk past multiple teachers without getting dress coded. A girl did it once and she was immediately dress coded. My psych class did a whole survey on it because it's such a problem at my school.
Okay but I actually had someone in the school office whip out a ruler and *measure* my shorts in middle school once. They were ¼ of an inch too short, so they made me wear school sweatpants. In 80° weather. I hate public school
My high school started the hair dye bulls*it, so I bleached mine blonde and put black tiger stripes in it. They said "you can't have unnatural hair colors" and I said "blonde and black are both natural colors" and I won the case. Boom. If kids are so distracted by something so simple, the kids are too stupid to be in that grade or need medication ASAP. And then they banned trenchcoats after columbine. Dress codes are usually a whole bunch of f*ckery that has no real effect. You're also dead on, a gang can change their colors or specific logos so banning them barely affects anything.
@@CleanUpNick it was great LOL. I was 15 and I totally "schooled" an entire table of adults with "authority". It was just...I loved every second of it 🤣
😮isn’t that always the case? My high school had similar rules but I always thought it’s just mean you can’t dye your hair blue, red etc. I went to a private girl school but I saw students dye their hair partially blonde and no one got in trouble (I think
I remember almost being sent home because my cap sleeves got pushed up during the school day and showed my bra strap for 5 seconds. Why they went ballistic even after I pulled my sleeves back down is beyond me.
I went to a large semi private high school. As a freshman I tripped and fell ended up ripping my jeans in the knee area. My knee was cut up pretty bad blood was definitely present on my skin and jeans. First period I got in trouble because my jeans were ripped. You could obv tell I didn’t buy them like that. After being scolded for my cloths I got two days in school suspension….
I knew a girl who got sent to the office for "bleaching her hair" she had naturally bleach blonde hair and had literally never been seen with any other color of hair and had gone to that school disticet since kindergarten
That has to be literally the most targeted thing (though the administration may of been none the wiser. Still, they needed to do their homework)
I had a friend in elementary school who was sent to the principal's office for having green hair (because it was an "unnatural hair color")! She was naturally super light blonde and had gone swimming in a chlorinated pool. Thankfully, the principal thought the rule was stupid...
Yea definitely agree mistakes are made in these situations. Some of it is bias, some the fact that it's a complicated concept to deal with, the punishments often don't fit the infraction and the one size fits all idea doesn't work either. It's a mess.
There was a reddit post about a girl who had a streak of white hair similar to the xmen character. She dye it once but malicious comply when they told her not to dye it again. School thought she dye that part of her white. The parents brought with them family photos showing the white streak. School officials back down so fast.
This happened to my mom in communist Romania. In summer her hair got blonder from the sun, and she got in trouble for it since students weren't allowed to colour their hair.
honestly its impressive that matpat still kept his png science man holding clipboard with all these years
if it ain't broke
@@Rainbowgunsh don’t fix it
Lol exactly 😂 I seen that science man for years
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he most likely has that image on his desktop somewhere
I vividly remember my sisters (who have much thicker hair than I) get dress coded for their HAIR. Saying their curls were too “unprofessional.” I also go dress coded for distracting male teachers AND students while wearing a long sleeved black shirt. Apparently it wasn’t the clothing item that was the problem…it was me. Apparently my body was the problem and I was encouraged to wear more layers of clothing/hoodies to cover up so my “parts” so to speak wouldn’t show as much.
I get that if you wear something like a corset, costume, or otherwise clothing that you wouldn’t wear in day-to-day life that it would be dress coded. (Not saying that you did) But if you are dress coding based on body type, it’s not dress coding, it’s discrimination.
As a curly hair person I think your school is stoopid
Also I don’t think body shaming is legal you should talk to a government official about it
Jesus Christ teachers are creeps
Thats bs
Every Frollo in modernity now sits in a school somewhere. That's where we find him.
Them saying dress codes support individual expression while they limit how you can express yourself is completely absurd
Hypocrisy at its finest.
@@Girattheratratfrrr
My school doesn’t allow tank tops, doesn’t allow “short” shorts/skirts, and you can’t show any midrif. The school-issued cheer uniforms has tank tops, super short skirt, and shows a ton of midrif.
Ain't that ironic?
My schools did that too! It was so stupid
The irony
When I went to school up until middle school or so shorts had to be at least mid thigh even though we were mostly wearing shorts that were close to the knees
Ah yes, predators.
It also doesn't help that many dress codes are entirely open to interpretation.
A friend's 8-year-old daughter got dress coded a couple of weeks ago. Two teachers said her outfit was "inappropriate" (no specifics offered), while her regular teacher and the principal said it was fine.
The outfit in question was a charming blue floral romper that hit just above her knees, covered her chest, and had fairly thick spaghetti straps topped with bows. I've seen more scandalous outfits in a Southern Baptist church. She looked...like an 8-year-old girl.
An 8 year old girl, not wearing anything anything at all, shouldn't be seen as "inappropriate" since... well, she's EIGHT. Whoever finds it "inappropriate" or "distracting" is a creep.
Bruh.
I got dresscoded for a skirt mixed with shorts in 3rd grade. Because it was "distracting" I was so confused. I was like 9 or 10.
1st off, that outfit sounds nice, kudos to the parents, however I agree especially in the southern baptist church.
Something they don't want to clarify in the dress codes is that the distractions aren't just referring to other students. They're also trying to limit how distracting the outfits are for teachers who themselves have poor self-control.
i had a girl in my class dress coded for “being able to see her bra”. she was wearing a long sleeve shirt with a neckline up to her neck. there was a light outline of the padding. it was in no way distracting and absolutely ridiculous, it left literally everything up to imagination
excuse me, teachers were looking WHERE?
@@RonaldTrumpOfficialnow that you mention it, why where they looking at that area?
Holy- just get her fired
@@railfansunited ey it can be a "her" too that's not the point
@@railfansunited 85% of teachers are female let’s not go there
I have a large chest and have had to worry about being dress coded constantly. When I was in 5th grade I was told to cover up because my bra strap was showing. I was wearing a dark green shirt and the outline was barely visible. Plus, the teacher was pretty far away from me so she was actively looking at my chest at 11 years old. Grown adults really need to stop staring at children's body's, girl, boy, doesn't matter.
No one should be staring at your child, adolescent or adult body. Look is one thing, but staring is another level. It’s creepy to stare at anyone regardless of age.
I don’t consider anyone pubescent to have an adult nor a child body. I consider it as adolescent, nor are children and adolescent bodies attractive. Even if you was post puberty or 18+ it’s still a no.
Ps. Anyone who finds adolescent or children body attractive needs help.
Omfg that’s ridiculous! I also have a big chest (like, bigger than kids my age) and I’m lucky to never have been dress coded!
Now that teacher is just a creep.
At my school you couldn't have specific colors of bras so teachers would actively be eyeing girls like hawks to see, super creepy
Great for you guys that y’all have no dress codes I have :(
My junior year, a girl was coded for her shirt being slightly cropped, and the next day, almost everyone wore a crop top to protest. And we had multiple students conduct surveys that show that girls, especially plus-sized girls, got coded much more often than any boys
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well no, you shouldnt really show too much skin in a school
@@thunderbolt64_ Oh why’s that? They boys are but women aren’t?
@@frilly1475 The person didn't mention gender, you did... please go attack the actual misogynists; there are plenty of them.
@Thunderbolt64 I agree, its completely unnecessary and you don't at all need to wear like a crop top or something because you're going to SCHOOL
My middle school forced us to only wear clothes that are a solid color, because apparently having a shirt or pants or a jacket with more than one color on it is too distracting.
wait until they realize _everything_ has more than one colour. Even the "solid colour" stuff aren't perfectly solid
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no one cares
My school too
Funny my middle school forbade clothes of a solid color because it might be "gang affiliated"
I once got dresscoded in middle school for wearing my school's PE shorts. On the first day of 6th grade I got coded for wearing a blue shirt with a denim skirt because more than one blue item was considered "gang affiliation." They can genuinely just be so nonsensical.
I-
so the school got you in trouble for wearing clothes provided by the school
GANG AFFILIATION?????
Reminds me of my middle school. They considered all but solid black and white as gang colors. We weren't allowed to wear colors, even outside of school as they would patrol the area to ensure we were following the rules. You didn't even realize you got caught until the next school day when you were given a detention slip.
They tried to control it down to our underwear. A girl got her period and leaked on her white underwear. She was expelled for it.
I got yelled at for wearing a colored swimsuit to the pool by my science teacher during summer vacation. The MAYOR himself and his family saw this and chewed out the teacher.
PLOT TWIST: The biggest gang in our area had their colors be black and white.
@@jagirl966 sounds like your school either didn't exist, or was part of the gang itself.
@@jagirl966 I'm sorry UNDERWEAR???
god I hope this comment isn't real
I’m glad matpat finally covered this topic, and in such detail. It’s seriously unfair what students have to go through just to stay in class. I’ve heard horror stories from so many friends about being forced to switch out clothing in front of school staff, among other things.
In high school I was a modest student, always covered up and got dress coded for having two stripes of blue in the front of my hair. A teacher tried to make me go to the cosmetology class and get it dyed back to a "natural" color ... a month after i did it. I told her absolutely not and if it was a problem someone should have said something weeks ago. 🙄
Wtf
In my place, there is a student who is naturally blonde. (I'm a Filipino by the way).
Before she went to our place, everyone already knows that she is blonde (her father is a European). But to our shock and dismay, the school administration wanted her to dye her hair black. Which is WTF!
@@onellbrianmeliston8960 bobo school admin 🙄 when my (post graduate) school suddenly enforced a no colored hair policy I shaved my head to assert dominance. I can't have unnatural hair color if I don't have hair.
Bro you followed the rules and still got punished
I really don't see what's wrong with blue hair especially if it's only 2 stripes
No one should give a f!!k about hair color! If I have rainbow HAIR and purple swimming shorts WHO cares lol, im sorry that happened to you dang schools suck.
I remember wearing a cute maroon dress back in High school that was above the knees. Almost got written up for wearing something "inappropriate" but when I pointed out why was my dress wrong but the cheerleaders and dance team dress codes were basically booty skirts.
Talk about double standards, they should be ashamed of themselves. While I don’t have a problem with revealing clothing, but I have a problem with overly revealing clothing in public. I’m okay with short denim shorts, and sports shorts, tights, or even crop tops. I’m not a saying that I am a pervert, we all as guys are attracted to the way women look, it’s natural, like guys are attractive to girls, but I have a definite problem with overly revealing clothing in school in public spaces.
I was dresscoded once because my “chest was distracting the teachers and students” I was wearing a blouse buttoned all the way, a shin length skirt and a cardigan. I was 14 and already embarrassed enough that I had a EU 70F cup.
16yr old with UK 36G cup. I feel you.
DAMN YALL ARE HUGE *ahem* sorry
Wait hold on. TEACHERS?????
It...isn't your fault if the pedophile teachers are distracted by a 14 year old girl's clothes.
@@_kal._ grow up
My last school disapproved any crop-tops or make-up excluding light LIGHT make-up because "we should focus on our studies and not on our looks" so one day our whole class including boys came in with short skirts, crop-tops and full make-up. Let's just say our sterotypical teacher wasn't happy
I say I support the make-up ban because make-up is very bad for the skin, especially teenagers. Teenagers are more prone to acne, and when you add make-up to it, it just makes it way worse. So, teens shouldn't really wear make-up until their done with puberty and their acne relaxes. I'm saying this as a teen myself, so don't think I'm some boomer.
@@starrby7790 well yes but the teens should be allowed to decide that for themselves and not have entirely no option to
Why make so many rules if it’s not about fashion? They make it about fashion then
@@blue-uv4mh So should teens be able to decide to do drugs, smoke, and drink alcohol?
In high school, the girls kept getting dress coded for their shorts when it was hot out, and the boys protested by all coming to school in booty shorts 😂
That's amazing
😂😂😂👍
NICE that's hilarious
damn guys wearing booty shorts is a sentence I thought I've never see
Nice!
Never going to get over how as a FIRST GRADER I was already stressing about whether my tank top straps were too narrow. Like dude, a 6-year-old wearing spaghetti straps should not be distracting to anybody!!!
anyone getting distracted by a 6-year-old's shoulders have a big problem
Call the police to open an investigation on anyone who claims she’s distracting in spaghetti straps like wtf if they think that THEY’RE an actual danger to the children they’re trying to teach
and spaghetti straps are super normal for children to use too! which makes things even MORE weird
EW!!! that's so disturbing to even suggest, im so sorry for you. when i was that age i would play in my yard shirtless
@eeveefever13 them being a 6 year old wearing is equally an issue. It might be cute but don't wear it school
It's very unfair. I was a National Merit Scholar. Two kids made a slap bet over whether I could get dress coded even if I TRIED because it seemed like certain kids were targeted. It took me about five months and a lot of effort before my spaghetti strap tank top with neon bra straps sticking out and very short shorts that I wore that final day did the job! I was about three days from graduating! Tons of kids in my grade were in on this, and the other choir kids cheered when I came back in itchy sweatpants and a neon green t-shirt. I still didn't get detention.
Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser.
lol
I've only gotten dress coded ONCE and I was in 3rd grade but I was basically wearing daisy dukes so that was kinda justified
@@Bluebeary_Shortcake bru, my brain went straight to the song lyrics when i saw "daisy dukes" ... i hate my brain.
Schools: makes students miss classes.
Students: aren’t getting enough education.
Schools: WhY aReNt OuR sTuDeNtS dOiNg well?
My school would always claim that a baseball hat is a “security threat” as it can conceal your face from security cameras, however, it’s okay if it’s during a spirit day or if it was bought from the school (I.E. school logo/name). Then it's suddenly no longer a threat.
Weird
lmao
*shows up in hoodie*
our school took this to a whole new extreme, made us buy £30 sports hoodies if we wanted to wear them around the school and then banned them completely unless you’re in PE (for the 2 lessons every fortnight) or outside. if it was raining we would be made to take them off outside in the rain before coming in, getting soaked in the process.
just a way of saying "we're broke so we make a stupid rule for money"
I can attest to this. I was always “bigger” than every other girl in my class. I wasn’t allowed to wear tank tops or anything that revealed even the tiniest bit of cleavage, I couldn’t help that shirts fit me in a different way. It got so bad that one day, on a field trip to a amusement/water park, I almost got heat stroke because I was wearing a black hoodie in the summer heat. The only thing I had under it was a tank top, they reluctantly let me wear the tank top only after I almost passed out.
God I feel that, I got cat called in my 1st year of middle school while only wearing a t-shirt that had a small v-cut neckline and it made me feel so gross and uncomfortable I wore zipped up hoodies until collage. I live in south Texas where the average is 95+ degree weather in blaring sunlight 😭
And they say dress codes are for safety
Wtf
They allowed you to wear a hoodies?
So having tits is bad? “Oh sorry, I can’t control how big my tits are let me just hide them “
As someone who used to go to a Catholic secondary school: dress codes are a MASSIVE pain.
Yeah I went to Catholic school until high school. I remember we couldn't have skirts higher than 2 inches above our knees and we used to roll-up our skirts and then roll them back down whenever the nuns were coming. Although my biggest issue is that girls had to wear dresses when we were younger and skirts when we were older. I would have preferred to wear pants.
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It's not hard at all to deal with. Modest length shorts or pants and a modest shirt. That covers your shoulders and upper arms. Easy
@@meredithwhite5790 oh my gosh. You mean they didn't want you to wear immodest skirts? The horror!
100th like!
I literally had a friend in high school get into a TON of trouble because her bra strap slipped down her shoulder and you could see it peaking out of her shirt (or at least that's what the Male teacher said). Meanwhile a girl who was on the varsity track team and academic team wore mini skirts and Daisy Duke style shorts and the school administration never batted an eye. MatPat missed the part where some schools favor their Athletic and Academic (specifically Academic Team, FBLA, etc) students over their other students.
I got yelled at twice FROM ACROSS THE ENTIRE DAMN HALLWAY to take my headband off because it was a bandana. The excuse was that it was too much like a hat, despite other students being allowed to wear them. I guess I was the exception due to being mixed and poor girl in a predominantly wealthy white school.
They were probably scared it was a "gang thing"
that;s weird
I hate how strict schools are on the no hat/hoodie rule cause it “makes it harder to recognize u” like btch pls, getting a fcking haircut sounds like a better way to stop urself from getting recognized than wearing the exact same fcking hat to school everyday, especially in classes that have assigned seating, like, how th u gonna say, “u can’t recognize me” if someone that looks exactly like me is sitting in my assigned seat, THAT U FCKING PUT ME IN.
I’ll never forget being a first or second grader hearing my friend be told she couldn’t wear a tank top because of the “3 fingers rule”, especially when the reason given for those rules is that they might be distracting. If you are being “distracted” by a 7 year old, jail immediately. Also I disagree with the no logos rule, kids don’t have to deal with trademarks and saying someone can’t wear a shirt with a logo out of it will siglehandedly destroy the closets of most middle school boys who only wear Nike or a similar brand every day
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Y copy paste comment?
@@SethLowery-kr4uo u a bot or smth
@@khloehunter9378 no
@@Blue_Doge no
Once a teacher saw that I was wearing the color white (girls weren't allowed to wear white at my middle school, boys were) and I thought that she was going to give me a write-up, but instead she pulled me out of class halfway through the school day because she bought me a new shirt so that I wouldn't be dresscoded by any other teachers.
Why no white?
@@CandiPinki I think that it had something to do with the shirts being light enough to see bra straps through.
At least that teacher cared enough to get you OUT of trouble
You weren’t allowed to wear white? That is… just dumb and weird.
@@hunterwatts3311 that's the only merit to this bad situation
I go to school in a german gymnasium and as long as our clothes aren’t showing the “private areas” we are allowed to wear whatever we want (except hats for some reason). It doesn’t change our learning in any way and the students are extremely peaceful for the most part. Most of the teachers are even chill enough to just let uns get up in the middle of class to go to the toilet without saying anything. That said there are some weird rules as well. For example we are not allowed to sit on the floor during the breaks.
I grew up in germany, and i was actually surprised that a thing such as dresscodes even existed. None of the schools i went to ever had any regulations on clothes, unless it was actually offensive, of course
Same. I’m American but I was in Germany for 1st-4th grade, and dress codes were quite the shock for me. No one had to wear a uniform in Germany, but in the US? It was insane.
Probably a different in what many Kids there would wear compared to here.
Many here would wear shorts so short up the thigh, shirts showing too much chest. Basically like dressing for a club not a professional place.
But it happens everywhere I guess. Generational differences
Same for me in Sweden
@capt.bellamy5954 you should se Swedish high schoolers
Can confirm that when I was school aged in Sweden it would have never entered my mind that the school should care that some teen students dressed very skimpy and provocativly or had a kind of disheveled street style. I still really don’t get why schools in other countries care what students wear as long as they are comfortable. When the video said dresscodes exists ”litterally everywhere” that was a bit of an exaggeration…
I feel like schools should’ve stressed about hygiene way more than clothes. Kids PURPOSELY skipping out on deodorant BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY DID NOT SMELL was more distracting than some of the “inappropriate” clothing.
This.
seriously they need to let some students get showers and deodorant at school, and as someone who once lived in a very unhygienic house (of which i had no control over) I have sympathy for some stanky mfers.
Ironically, deodorant was banned at my school for being an aerosol tho
@@dunsparcedm43 WHAT.
I remember a kid in my high school who wore so much axe body spray you knew if he had been in a classroom long after he physically left. And no one ever said anything to him.
I remember my principal flat out threatened to keep girls from attending our senior prom if they didn't wear a dress, meanwhile some of the boys were wearing scruffy jeans and sneakers. One guy had a sleeveless shirt on ffs!
boy am i glad i’m never going to prom. i’m skipping homecoming too lol
my year decided that there was nothing they could do to stop us as half of the kids were never coming back to the school and the ones that were have absolutely zero respect for uniform policy. we had tits out everywhere, full length leg slits in dresses, multiple girls in suits, the trans guys in suits as well, a few skirt/suit-top combos and many criminally high heels. it was the ultimate rebellion for us, since we’re an all girls grammar school where the uniform is so strict that i’ve been threatened with detention for not having the top button on my shirt done up (i had cut off said button to avoid using it because it’s suffocating).
@@StarField369 Yeah...our principal didn't seem to have any issues with the girls wearing low cut clothing as long as it was a dress. However, during the school year, so many of my classmates got in trouble for being indecent just because they had well endowed chests and sometimes showed an inch or two of cleavege. The only girls that didn't where the ones on the track and baseball teams. So take of that what you will 🤷♀️
Wtf why does he give a f*ck? What a creep!
It’s not teenage boys who find girls’ bodies distracting, it’s the adult teachers who enforce dress codes.
yeah thats what my mother has always told me
That's not true
Facts
Of course, it's the adult teachers who enforce it. A teen boy is not going to complain about how little a girl is wearing.
ummmmm
For all of the students out there that find it frustrating, remember that some of your teachers may as well. My friend (teacher of several years now) was actually called out by the principle because she had dark blue pants. Those pants were _not_ denim, but the principle deemed it as jeans anyway, and thus, inappropriate. She couldn't wear them again. This has happened with more than one teacher at that school.
That’s honestly very nice to know that it’s not just us being dress coded (a student)
That Principal needs to get their eyes checked and taught basic about different fabrics and pants
I am so confused as to why jeans would be considered inappropriate in the first place
@hetsmiecht1029 work outfits aren't denim. They're usually a slicker/thinner material.
I was once dress coded by a teacher at lunch, while trying to get to the principal's office to report my lunch money stolen and call my parents for some food. 15 years later and I'm still mad about that one. No consequences for the person who literally stole from me, but God forbid you can see my cleavage.
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They should've punished you and the kids who stole from you honestly
I Feel The Frustration 😤 💢
@@Mr.Rodriguez-ur9kkBruh
@@Mr.Rodriguez-ur9kk 💀
I work at a school, and I find dress codes incredibly unfair. Targeting a kid because of what they wear makes them not want to come to school. Some can’t afford clothes that would meet the criteria.
One of the many reasons dress codes/school uniforms are not only flawed and ineffective, but biased.
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And I’ve found that dress codes are mostly targeted towards girls
I got dress coded for spaghetti straps in middle school while a boy was running around campus shirtless
first world problems
@@dinogt8477 problems are problems🤷🏽♀️
Multiple guys at my school wore “send noods” shirts to school and they never got dresscoded but ive seen a girl get dresscoded for jean shorts that were longer than average jean shorts because there was some small holes on the jean shorts even though it wasnt revealing or anything and the holes were towards the bottom and mostly covered
what the fu-
A boy can whip the wrench out. Have it powered up. And shave their chest. Yet the teachers don't care. But oh no the jeans that 4 year old is wearing is Too inappropriate for revealing their ankles!
Imagine being taken out of class and needing an adult to bring you new shirt because you came to school in a purple polo instead of a navy blue polo because being colorblind you couldn't see the difference getting dressed in the morning.
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god
Facts
not only do schools pick at clothing from different races and stuff, but they also pick on them because of their body type which is really sad. i see some smaller body types in girls wearing really short shorts at my school and they never get dress coded, but when it comes to a person with a bigger body type, they get dress coded because of whatever reason they think of.
Most of the girls in my class wear crop tops all spring and summer, but I get complaints when I wear a full length shirt. If I try to wear a skirt or shorts I'll get crucified. Hate that knee length rule, at a certain height you simply cannot find anything that length.
in my high school, one girl asked why she couldn’t wear leggings (in a class that was only full of girls) to gym class, our teacher (a woman) started off by saying “well, the guy teachers would be uncomfortable…”
What the hell
Someone launch an investigation on those male teachers immediately.
That's disgusting, especially when coming from A WOMAN! like, what kind of victim blaming propaganda is she reinforcing there???
I really hate those. If a male teacher, or for that matter ANY teacher, is distracted by what a girl is wearing, they shouldn't be teaching kids.
Nope! Nope! Nope! Please for the love of everything tell me that those teachers had an investigation done on them.
I remember when I was 14 I was at an all girls school and we had no uniform days. We asked why we couldn’t wear spaghetti straps if there were no boys. This grown woman said to me without stuttering, “because of the male teachers”. It disgusted me.
What?
@@xXDa_R4nd0m_0ni0n_G4rlXx allow me to add extra context:
"because [it would be seductive towards] the male teachers"
Why are there Male teachers at an all girls school?
At my school girls weren't allowed to wear sweatpants while guys could, and one girl ended up getting suspended over it
but she fought back and got her suspension overruled, which ended up changing the dresscode :)
Sorry, SWEATPANTS!??? That has got to be the least suspend worthy clothing on EARTH
My school can’t even wear sweat pants
@@hoopa6477 pretty sure she meant yoga pants, the ones that are really tight
@@adenm8963 yoga pants arent even inappropriate
@@destiny_5540 the really tight ones are.
I once had a friend who wore a skirt to school and this kid who was much bigger than her touched underneath inappropriately and so she went to a counselor to talk about and the kid didn’t get in trouble, but she got dress coded and was forced to put on pants like wtf Texas?
Texas just hate woman. Simple as that.
Ah, texas
that is the def of victim blaming and it is as follows Example of Victim-Blaming Attitude: “She must have provoked him into being abusive. They both need to change.” Reality: This statement assumes that the victim is equally to blame for the abuse, when in reality, abuse is a conscious choice made by the abuser. Questions such as “What were you wearing?” “Were you drinking?” “Did you scream?” “Did you fight back?” are all examples of victim blaming. These types of questions suggests that the victim played a role in the assault and should be held partly responsible.
Wow! They victim blaming?!?! 😡😡🤬🤬
Texas could be nuked and literally nothing of value would be lost. In fact it would GAIN value through the cost of the nuke lmaooo
I got dress coded in high school for having hair that was "Too long and Distracting". I had dark curly hair that went to the middle of my back. They told me to get a hair cut, but my culture views cutting hair as an act of deep shame. This applies to both men and women.
My Mom and I argued the case and won, but needless to say I transferred to another school very quickly.
Oddly enough, these channels have taught me more than school ever has, and I can sit around in watch them wearing whatever I want.
I once got automatic detention way back in the 5th grade because I had forgotten to take off this black sweater that I had on over my school uniform and the principal felt like I was being disrespectful... to the school's uniform 💀 (I wish I was making this up)
*”STOP DISRESPECTING THE SOCKS. THEY ARE SENSITIVE.”*
@@pomnihamster LMAOOO EXACTLY 🤭
@BeeBoo 🩷🦕 WOW 💀
I guess asking you to take it off first would have been too difficult.
@@M0rbidCuriositea I’d say more that it would make to much sense. Not difficult.
In high school, the boys were allowed to wear muscle t-shirts, but us girls had to wear short sleeves minimum. Boys could wear shorts as long as they werent too tight, we couldn't wear shorts or dresses above the knee. I'm still livid thinking back on it.
My sister was scolded because her shirt showed part of her side and stomach when she reached over her head to grab things from her locker. Because, you know, shirts move when you raise your arms.
On the other hand, there were boys who came to school in just overalls. No shirts at all. Or those shirts that basically have no side and they showed their sideboob all day long. But because they were boys, it didn't matter, apparently.
I still remember being in 10th grade and in our chemisty class we did a demonstration of vacuums where you could get into a bag with just your head sticking out and have the air vacuumed out and i don't remember what the actual reason why we did this, but a whole bunch of guys did it so i decided to try it, too. Afterwards, someone told me in a horrified tone that the outline of my bra straps and band in the back was visible. As if it would be a surprise to anyone that a sophmore who was obviously busty had a bra on. 🤦♀️
no shorts above the knee? who's getting distracted by knees???
It is unfortunate to say but the dress codes of revealing clothing may often be more so for teachers. It is terrifying how many teachers I knew/found to be convicted of those crimes
yuuuup. Still not fair to punish the students for creepy adults
Then they need to keep a better eye on those teachers and on who they hire in the first place!
Restricting students' clothing isn't gonna stop creepy teachers*.
Those teachers didn't develop pedo tendencies because of their student's scarce clothing, they've had these tendencies from the start and then decided to become teachers so they could satisfy it to some extent!
*you know, women in Saudi Arabia cover not just their shoulders and knees, but their entire body including the face, yet Saudi Arabia isn't exactly the safest place on earth for women... 💁♂️
My school counsellor got arrested for those types of crimes
I wonder how many of them were actually true 35%? 20%?
How about do a better job of background checking your employees?
one girl i know got dress coded constantly for her skirt being too short, but our uniform was kilts. they came with specific waist:length ratios, and she was tall and slim. they didn’t make them long enough while still able to fit around her waist. on the other side i’m short and have wide hips, my skirts were reaching nun levels before i changed to trousers.
It also sucks how "thicker" students (usually girls and brown) get reprimanded much more. They could be wearing the exact same thing as another skinny student, but because they're thicker, it's "inappropriate and distracting"
You mean fatter right?
Yea, woc, are known to be more developed than those who are not so they would get suspended for wearing the exact same thing as a girl who is not .
@@shieldofwrath nope. Thicker. As in big butts, thicker thighs, etc. You know? I guess the "fat" students would get dress coded too, tho there werent many in my school and I don't know any either personally, so i cant speak for them. But it was mostly the thicker (and coincidentally hispanic female) students. I was one of them 😬😬
I went to a mostly white high school so race wasn't much of a part of it, but I'm white and hit puberty a lot faster than other kids and was a lot more filled out and thicker, and this happened to me constantly
Yeah, I've heard of that happening at my school. I also overheard a Mexican girl tat my school alking about how she and other brown girls in her gym class would always be punished for not wearing the gym uniform meanwhile the white girls faced no repercussions for doing the exact same thing.
I feel like waiting for teachers to call underage student's clothing distracting or inappropriate is a great way to get pedos to self report.
Its technicly not pedos if they are over 12 but its still minors
Yeah I concur. The problem is with their perverted minds, not with kids' bodies.
@@yoyo777 nope. If they’re a minor it’s pedophilia. Teenagers are just slightly more mature children and *I’m* a teenager admitting this.
that's actually an interesting point; how many teachers feel *really* uncomfortable at the idea of dress coding students? how many are being pressured in some way? I'd like to know that.
@@yoyo777??
in my country (Denmark) public schools have neither uniforms nor dresscodes, and when a teacher last year commented on a 16 y/o girl wearing a crop top, the whole country protested and the teacher was fired immediately
I wish it was like that here...v.v So glad I'm no longer attending school.
That seems a little excessive but sure
The IES be like:
I wish the US could be that united over any fact ever
As a dane aswell, I can confirm, and damn It's so concerning looking over at USA and seeing these problems actually exists.
Here’s an idea-
-Cover privates
-Wear deodorant (smelling is more destructing than an annoying shirt)
-No majorly offensive garment with offensive staitmrnts
-Closed toed shoes (to keep from stub into the toe)
-Nothing majorly destracting (like a clown costume)
There. Problem solved
Great solution
This right here is what we need
@@Memesandgames-dh1of Until they declare spaghetti straps to be “majorly disruptive “.
ngl i genuinely believe that these rules are in place because of what makes the adult, supposedly professional teachers comfortable, and actually has little to do with keeping the students safe *or* successful
Yeah, tagerting kids is terrible no matter what it is, if your out to ruin a kids day because of your personal opinion or you think its your obligation, your not beneficial to begin with.
Or keeping creepy pedos from being tempted more like
@@geekgirl616 They shouldn’t be tempted at all no matter what the CHILDREN wear! The teachers are put there to educate! Not to be creepy AT ALL they should be in JAIL if they are having those thoughts about CHILDREN!
@@amandajoseph1614 While I agree with the sentiment of that statement it's disturbingly close to Thought Crime which is /// almost ///( Emphasized for a reason) equally as gross and disgusting. Remember you can think about as many crimes as you want but the moment you act on it, or in some cases even voice the urge to do it, that is the line. Be wary of this line in the future.
who said they are attracted to it and arent trying to prevent other boys from attacking the girls?@@amandajoseph1614
I think next Matpat should talk about backpacks, since there are schools that are not allowing students to carry them throughout the day, or completely banning them. It was a major issue for me when I was in middle school, having to carry all of my heavy books by hand and constantly having bullies knock them over
Really? Is it a "women pockets" kinda situation?
look at those children and their backpacks. what could they be carrying in them? who knows? MAYBE SOMETHING ILLEGAL!!!
@@KapotaJC This is the reason that they are banning them though. Harder to sneak a weapon in if you don't have a bag to help hide it.
i remember seeing a thread of students where that happened, and the stuff they were using in place of it that wasnt banned by current rules. like one kid brought a baby stroller, one was using a janitor cart, one had a carry on suit case
There are places where the teachers are the ones moving from class to class, not kids, BECAUSE the kids are expected to bring a lot of material in one day and changing it every day, and asking them to bring it around it unfeasible
These places are called Europe
yeah we weren’t aloud backpacks at my middle either and they once tried to ban girls purses but that didn’t go so well for them 💀
A teacher assuming your clothes will distract other students (specifically boys), says more about the teacher than about the clothes
it’s like the second a girl’s cardigan falls over just a tiny bit revealing one atom of the shoulder, the entire school’s boy population rushes over
We had a case at a middleschool a couple years back where the principal outlawed crop tops because he ruled it was distracting for the male students. Social media was then used as a weapon, as students (male and female) took to tiktok to protest over the ridiculous decision, and that they should have the right to wear whatever they wanted. 2 weeks later the ban was lifted.
My family told me to just ask
" then why are you looking?" Whenever I got in trouble for it. I was dressed in plain normal clothes and still got dresscoded.
Boys do not give two flips about woman at a certain age
(About 7 to 15)
Most don't care past that even
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Something I've noticed about my school is that they are more biased about body types and gender rather race. Like you can wear a spaghetti strap tank top if you have a smaller bust but not if it's a larger bust. Which is still really unfair 😕
Also I've noticed it's always the guy teachers/staff members pointing out female students clothing so..
@@jwholovesyou nothing is a coincidence....
Dress codes have, and always shall be, about maintaining control: control over attitude, control over character, and control over understanding.
In an academic setting, this makes sense: you are literally teaching children about the world around them... but their reaching implications, especially in later years of education, are alarming and dangerous.
nah son im not weak like you
Maybe some parts abt it but still, kids need to learn modesty and decency in how they present themselves. No matter what race or gender
The real problem with dress codes is that the fashion industry makes girls shorts much shorter than boys shorts. Makes it hard to find shorts that are an "acceptable" length
Agreed, when I was in high school and had a PE class, I had to wear appropriate length, black shorts.
I went shopping with my grandmother and EVERY woman’s athletic shorts were so small I would consider them underwear! I’m also on the heavier side so no way in hades were those fitting me, and I ended up having to get MEN’S shorts, not exactly a boost to my self-esteem. But at least it was appropriate.
@@actualaspienc1279 so true. I also remember going back to school shopping with my sister and she would always insist on going to Justice (😝). I always remember my mom doing fingertip checks with the shorts she wanted and hardly any of them passed
That was an rule at my district but they got rid of it for an 3in inseam becuse their was a lot of kids (I’m one of them) where they had longer arms than the average kid but most teachers don’t call us out unless it’s to small and/or showing our underwear
No, the real problem is that dress codes exist.
OH MY GOSH because of my family’s religious beliefs, we don’t wear clothing that is super revealing. My mom has spent so many hours for my older sisters sewing their prom dresses so that they are modest.
I was also once told to put on a sweater because my shirt was too thin and it looked "lewd". Admittedly the shirt was a bit thin and you could kinda see the outline of my bra in it. But nothing feels quite like getting slut shamed as a preteen because you have tits and poor parents that can't get you a new tshirt that isn't nearly thread bare so your teacher tells you to put on a sweat shirt in 95 degree weather.
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@@SethLowery-kr4uo the post isn't about abuse at all
STOP SPAMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@justcommenting5117 yes it is
@@Bluebeary_Shortcake okay I did like 3 days ago
those dress codes were the bane of my high school experience.
I would also like to point out that body size also matters when it comes to bias in dress codes. I would wear the same thing as a skinny girl and I would get in trouble and she wouldn’t. I was once told by a teacher that my body is more distracting than other kids. I also did horrible in school towards the end. I didn’t get to walk at graduation because I was supposed to stay another year. Half way through that extra year, I dropped out and got my GED. It was insanely easy for me to get. Like, I didn’t even need to study. I felt like I could have passed it freshman year if I had known I could.
Exactly. I was kinda disappointed that he didn’t talk about this in the video. Once I was behind some girls heading into pe and they were all wearing basically the same shirts-which I should add they wore pretty much everyday. The pe teacher checked the first two in, but the last girl who was a bit chubbier than the others, instead was asked “where’s the rest of your shirt” I felt so disgusted and felt horrible for her, and that was in middle school.
There is literally no reason for schools to throw fits about hair. Its stupid that some schools use their power in this way
they really like to complain about it being "unruly" or "unprofessional" and "bringing disrepute to the school"
to be fair... dyed hair is cringe
It is cringe
As an Australian kid, I always found the "keep your shoulders covered" rule hell in school. It's like, dudes! It's 35°C today, do you really expect me to be directly in the sun?? (The rules was there for sun reasons)
America is ridiculous for not using the metric system
35°C is maybe 95°F
I go to a school that has us outdoors all day once a week, including the summer. We would be required to wear long sleeves and pants (no t shirts or shorts) even when it got to almost 100 Fahrenheit/37ish Celsius
@@aoifebillin314 ºC is not metric either.
Honestly any forty year old teacher who says a teenage girl can’t show her shoulders cause it’s ‘distracting’ immediately gives sketch vibes.
It doesn't matter what gender or age they are, they are still sketchy
I once read a book inspired by all of the unfair dress codes schools had. Dress Coded by Carrie Firestone highlighted how dress codes made girls hate themselves. Some even moved schools. Dress codes should be how it is at the end. A bottom, top, shoes, no profanity or inappropriate stuff on shirts, but other than that, you be you.
My mom used to call booty shorts denim diapers
"no ... inappropriate stuff on shirts" well isn't that's the problem? what is considered inappropriate and what is not?
There still needs to be modesty. Young boys and girls need to be fully and completely clothed no matter what. No revealing clothes at that young of an age
@@Jkrocsko Why? Do little girls and boys tempt you? Why do you care if they show skin?
@@Jkrocsko You are tempted huh? I bet you want to reach for them or do worse. Please. Never return to this comment section
I always hated how my school forced boys to have short hair, all styled the same, while they had no trouble with a girl having long or short hair- Its just a stupid rule made for no reason other than to annoy students 😭
As long as it doesn’t look like it hasn’t been washed in three months, then it’s okay for both girls and boys.
@@Dallop-ru2 Oh no, if you were a boy and had the hair different to the stereotypical "boy hair" you were inmediatly put in detention until you had your hair cut
@@ilan_profile Its really annoying that used to happened but im so glad I wasn't around back then cause my hair is naturally long and curly. School sucked and still sort of does.
@@BadNameJackson many schools around the world are very much still like this. I'm in Australia, and we have gendered uniforms / enforced hair standards / so on. England does too. I also know many countries in Asia are much the same
@@riley530 Can confirm about India, We too have god awful uniform and hair codes for boys as well as girls until the end of secondary highschool (11th-12th) which is about 16-17 years olds.
I know I read somewhere (actually, many somewhere's) that one of the reason dress codes can be so strict (especially to girls) is to keep the teachers from being distracted. Like, if a teacher is going to become distracted by a shoulder, they shouldn't be teaching in the first place.
especially the shoulder of a preteen girl 🫠
i cant blame em, id cop a peek too....
@@Seinsmelled ew.
@@Seinsmelled gross.
@@Seinsmelled your average game/film/food/style theory fan:
At my middle school i went to, they honestly didnt care what you wore, a kid showed up in a crop top with spaghetti straps and short shorts as well as flip flops, heavy makeup, lots of sharp jewelry, and the school didn't care honestly im so dang glad my school never really cared-
I remember in 5th grade having a talk in class about dress codes. About how one person in tall and one is short but both wear a medium shorts size. If the rule is the shorts can’t be shorter then the the length of the finger tips when standing straight. The short person is going to pass the test but for the tall person the shorts will be too short.
I remember this classroom conversation vividly.
As the rail-thin long legged tall girl, I feel this on a spiritual level. It was worse at church where shorts had to touch the ground when you knelt on your knees. I wore gaucho pants two sizes too big to avoid them being tight (cinched in with a belt to the point of fabric folds) and I was told they were too LONG. I got in trouble for covering MORE skin.
Bruh, idk why they can’t have rules based on proportions, like the upper limit for shorts being at the knee or right in the middle of the thigh.
My school recently introduced a new rule that long dresses are forbidden as it could be a form of "religious expression" because they think any MENA student wearing them is wearing a jellaba. Even though it isn’t a religious clothing item. My class consists of mostly Muslim girls who wear modest clothing and they’ve been dress coded multiple times. But the funny thing is, two girls were wearing the same dress just a different pattern. The Moroccan girl was sent to the principal’s office while the teacher said nothing to the Chechen girl, knowing she was muslim too. But that girl has blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin while the Moroccan girl was tanned with dark hair and eyes. Honestly such a silly rule because no teacher bats an eye at girls wearing skin tight SKIMS dresses or low rise jeans with their g-strings literally visible.
Dude, isn't it literally illegal to ban something because it's religious expression? Like, it's part of the American constitution. Unless this isn't in America??
By that logic, the yahmaha (Jewish skull cap) and religious necklaces would have to be banned, as well as all other religious clothing and accessories.
It's a violation to express your religion? What country was this?
What the hell...
tf
As someone who is german and therefor never had a dresscode in school really
I feel pretty blessed
@Subbing To Everyone Who Subs To Me shut up
Same they only forbid hats for some reason
@@-noubtub- haha yeah hats and putting up your hoodies hood TwT
@@-noubtub- yes and sometimes sweatpants, but it depends on the teacher
I am from Czechia and luckily we also don't have them there
A group of senior boys at my school wore crop tops for about a week and never got in trouble. Multiple girls have worn slight crop tops and get dress coded right away
I went to a non-American high school. we do wear school uniforms but that's about it. We can style our hair however we want, wear small accessories, we can wear vests/jackets over our uniform. And the best thing about it was that we can wear sneakers and not have to wear proper school shoes. I always went crazy with my socks, always buying cute designs like strawberry prints lol and my classmates would often notice. It was huge boost to my confidence.
@@stxllargem samee
Our jackets can only be blue ( dark or light doesn't matter ) and our socks should be blue only ....I hate it
This is a style of uniform I can respect
@@niharbhushan3807 What if I wore a neon cyan glow in the dark bedazzled jacket? What them teachers gona say now?
@@BadNameJackson they are probably gonna send you home ....for a week
In middle school we weren’t allowed to wrap out hoodies our waist- the reason “it could fall off and someone running in the halls could trip.” I don’t think I should get in trouble for my hoodie get onto the person running in the hallways 💀
A lot of girls in middle school do that actually either for fashion choice or because they are scared they might get their period and have it bleed through their pants. I wore the same jacket around my waist every day for a year because I was so paranoid. If a teacher were to say “no you can’t wear it like that” I would be have so scared every day.
wait isn’t there a rule to not run in the halls tho 🤨
Honestly, my school's dress codes were super strict mostly because they thought they could prevent more teen preg. Spoiler alert, it did not work.
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@@SethLowery-kr4uo Alright, but you have to be an idiot to wear something that is objectively seductive or attention-seeking while having full knowledge that what you wear is meant to attract men.
At my school we weren’t allowed to wear hats. I get that with big hats with obstructing the view of the board and everything, but honestly I wouldn’t really notice someone wearing a hat until a teacher would point it out. That was more disrupting than the person wearing the hat.
Yeah absolutely. At my school it’s more no hats because that’s respectful. The teachers are generally pretty nice too so it works out
I remember once having a student passing by me in high school. She was wearing a spaghetti strap crop top and the shortest shorts ever. She wasn't dress coded since she had a baggy jacket on that she could just zip up during classes, but the shorts weren't long enough to be seen under the jacket. She wasn't written up or even pulled aside from teachers who were standing outside their classrooms
Are you saying this happily, or is this annoying you, I can’t tell, seeing as most of the comments on this video are sharing negative experiences?
@StaticReaper74 Annoying
When I was in school back in the 90s, one that stood out to everyone was Corduroys. Nobody, literally nobody, including the teachers and principle, had the slightest idea why it was on the list of banned clothing items. The closest to a reasonable theory (heh) that I heard was that "maybe it's a gang thing?" But I grew up in the middle of nowhere. The closest thing we had to gangs were groups of little old ladies who wore red hats. That was it! To this day I still have absolutely no idea what might have gotten them banned.
Maybe they were salty they couldn't rock corduroys.
Corduroys convert your body in to a walking stun gun. Your legs build up static electricity as you walk, then when you touch someone - ZAP!! 🤣
J/K - I mean, they do that, but not to the point of being banned. I grew up wearing corduroys in the winters - at worst, other kids made fun of your pants. 🤷♂️
I grew up in NE, and the only dress codes are don’t wear shorts for the second and third periods (because it’s cold and unpredictable) and no hats because it shows “Disrespect” and “Wanting to go outside”.
@@Dallop-ru2 I never wear hats outside and wear them inside lol.
It’s not even just the difference between if somebody’s male or female, it also makes a huge difference on if they’re openly lgbtqia+ or not. I have a giant purple blanket-hoodie, I think the technical name for it is a comfy, and I’ve worn it to school multiple times and have never gotten dresscoded for it. I’m, at first glance, a straight female. Now, I give that comfy to my friend, who is openly trans/non-binary, and they wear it to school, and they get dress-coded almost immediately. It’s supposed to be completely unbiased but it’s not, and something needs to change.
@@Jaxol bro no matter what you thin this is still fishy af fromt he school
that sucks
I'm an 12 year old girl that developed fast, so I have the body of about a 14 year old, I was wearing ripped jeans and the rips only went up to my knees, the principle came up to me while I was getting on the bus and told me that with my body shape I can't wear that and she didn't want to see me wearing tight clothes or anything with holes in them. Made me feel really self conscious about my body and I hated every second of the conversation.
Great job in showing awareness of this, it’s sad from a young age women are being taught their bodies are sexual :(
thing girls are taught at EXTREMELY young ages are heartbreaking. Kidnapping (for me, it was the first lesson i was taught.) inapporpiate clothing, or simply looking too pretty is a dangerous thing.
dress codes are also biased, more for girls, than boys. i do remember getting suspended for 2 days for not wearing a belt i went to a private school and i was 6! Now home schooled, no dress codes lol, dont even need to get dressed!😅
YES I LOVE "ATTENDING" SCHOOL IN MY PJS
@@Jade_Dragon exactly
Same here! I remember wearing a long sleeve shirt over my camisole but I was told not to wear straps
This video reminds me of a story one of my teachers told me. He told us that the uniform of his school said that boys had to wear pants and girls could wear pants and shorts. It was really hot outside so to rebell the boys wore skirts to school until the school changed the uniform to allow shorts and it actually worked.
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@@SethLowery-kr4uo How many times have you pasted that exact post here?
My school did the exact same thing in 2012, made the news as well.
My school dress coded having your hair out, they said it was distracting. But they only ever brought it up for the girls. Sometimes I wonder what on earth goes through the writers of these codes heads.
im sorry.. HAIR IS DISTRACTING!?!?!??!?!
Preaty sure they used dru#%$ and smoke a littel of devil lettuace then writed that
11:20 Also for those that don't know and from outside the community, Durags are a tool used to help achieve a short cut black hairstyle called "waves" where our hair becomes a wavy texture which IS considered professional but those making the rules don't understand we need it to get that hairstyle and only associate it with pop culture or gang culture .
This is a problem I definitely had to deal with as a kid bc I've always had long hair bc since I'm Hawaiian I find it the best way to represent that half of my culture but I grew up in a small town in northern Minnesota and it was a problem at first but I was grateful enough to have a mother who fought for how I should be allowed to express my culture. They eventually gave up and changed the hair rule
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Fellow nesian and I’m happy for you, but how on earth is long hair distracting?!
Unless it was about how it was tied, then I can relate. Our student council had to fight to allow ponytails, and I still got told off 😑
Some of my classmates did an "experiment" - the girls wore tank tops while the boys wore muscle tanks, and the girls got in trouble while the boys did not. I remember one girl being quite tall, with longer arms, legs, and fingers. Even though the shorts she was wearing were appropriate and allowed, she got in trouble for wearing them 🤦♀
Bruh
I remember the amount of things banned for “relating to gang activity” like colored hair and any kind of head covering. The real kicker?
I grew up in the middle of nowhere. As rural as you can get. THERE WEREN’T GANGS. The closest you got was groups of escaped cattle causing property damage, or the gang tags on the trains that came in from Chicago, over a thousand miles away.
I recall reading a book called After that was about a school's response to a school shooting in the news. It started enforcing new policies that they thought would keep everyone safe but all this did was winnow down the student body through various suspensions as each rule targeted another group. The first rule was banning the color red as a gang color, and a girl whose brother died of AIDS got suspended for wearing a red AIDS ribbon that she'd worn every day since her brother's diagnosis. The rules continued on all the way to searching the students' lockers and evaluating the books each kid was reading.
I remember that book
I knew a girl in my class and apparently, the school thought her hair was "too inappropriate", even though she naturally had coily hair.
i’m sorry- what?! 😭
How on earth is that "too inappropriate?!??!"
In my school, there's a girl who is mixed race so her hair is blonde but she got called out many times because they thought her hair is colored
...W h a t?
My school banned the color "red" saying it was a "gang color". To which I responded with "Any color can be a gang color", they agreed, nothing changed. I also said "never challenge someone's creativity, you will lose" in response to this. I asked why red was banned, they asked what color I see worn most by gangs, so I said "black" and they said "no, you see red". It was ridiculous
Why doesn’t every school think they have a gang problem because someone wears literally like that was the second most popular color
I'm sorry this isn't funny but it's so absurd I couldn't help but laugh 😂
@@serazvi5387 you're wrong. It is absolutely hilarious. Laugh away, buddy, I know I did
You can’t tell someone what they do and don’t see
i had uniforms at my school, but they still had so much discrimination and regulation issues… we were required to wear specific skirts but still girls with longer legs or larger hips got told their skirts were too short when that’s what fits their bodies
My schools is currently experiencing this and it’s very frustrating. I am a student who weighs a lot more than others and I’ve had my bra strap showing in front of teachers for over half the year and didn’t get in trouble once. Several of my friends who weigh less than me and are more sporty have had their bra strap shown once and the immediately got in trouble with the teachers. :(
They’re going for the “sexier” ones and that probably makes you feel horrible. It’s bad no matter how you look at it…
I had a friend in school who would wear a thin strapped tank top and walk past multiple teachers without getting dress coded. A girl did it once and she was immediately dress coded. My psych class did a whole survey on it because it's such a problem at my school.
Okay but I actually had someone in the school office whip out a ruler and *measure* my shorts in middle school once. They were ¼ of an inch too short, so they made me wear school sweatpants. In 80° weather. I hate public school
It’s about control at this point 😑
@@catdownthestreet The government schooling system has ALWAYS been about control!
@@jackesioto and that’s why i hate it
Oh no you had to cover up how will the world recover?🤣
@@CordellWallers I believe it’s about over heating. Also just being hot and uncomfortable
Bro I really don't understand what's wrong with leggings?? They completely cover up your legs, they just show off your leg muscles.
My high school started the hair dye bulls*it, so I bleached mine blonde and put black tiger stripes in it. They said "you can't have unnatural hair colors" and I said "blonde and black are both natural colors" and I won the case. Boom. If kids are so distracted by something so simple, the kids are too stupid to be in that grade or need medication ASAP. And then they banned trenchcoats after columbine. Dress codes are usually a whole bunch of f*ckery that has no real effect. You're also dead on, a gang can change their colors or specific logos so banning them barely affects anything.
LMAO, i can just see the persons frustrated and flabbergasted face as you tell them that XD
@@CleanUpNick it was great LOL. I was 15 and I totally "schooled" an entire table of adults with "authority". It was just...I loved every second of it 🤣
😮isn’t that always the case? My high school had similar rules but I always thought it’s just mean you can’t dye your hair blue, red etc. I went to a private girl school but I saw students dye their hair partially blonde and no one got in trouble (I think
@@The_Infamous_Boogyman i would too if i had been to a school that strict on something so small XD
@@CleanUpNick thanks brother
as a hispanic with a permanent 200% hair growing buff, the part where santi talks about the unfair suspension really made me want to break something
I remember almost being sent home because my cap sleeves got pushed up during the school day and showed my bra strap for 5 seconds. Why they went ballistic even after I pulled my sleeves back down is beyond me.
I went to a large semi private high school. As a freshman I tripped and fell ended up ripping my jeans in the knee area. My knee was cut up pretty bad blood was definitely present on my skin and jeans. First period I got in trouble because my jeans were ripped. You could obv tell I didn’t buy them like that. After being scolded for my cloths I got two days in school suspension….