If the question is for me : I have had a lot of chances .I have take full professional profits on some , others not so good . But I have followed successfully my scientific projects ALONE and have published my papers in good journals without collaborators and out of the main streams of Physics in mostly of my papers . I was full professor at the age of 29 in Brazil and now I am retired at 64 .My list of publications .scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=list_works&hl=pt-BR&user=8_GsKRsAAAAJ&fbclid=IwAR2qnyU9-ZJkbIosZjdml9TdEeB-CwP93LE0PzLvCIjkzifP7Zz-yRQ8ijQ_aem_AVuCBWreFbIv6X2SEtw-zGhZznm0e6ppr0oF3bmi2ln8bKj1GjBafezRuAtAZ1_HTsHQ8bC8pbUE2OBPj9n5xJu_
@@josephvanname3377 I have been a FULL professor either ! . Of course that Academic Institutions have a lot of problems as any other Institutions . But believe me : Perhaps Bad with them . Certainly much worse without them!.
"People high in agreeableness do well in academia" That's a devastating indictment, because that is the exact opposite personality of a true innovator.
Great discussion Jon, I agree with everything you and Sabine said. I think is important for new students to recognize this side of academia before committing to a masters or a PhD. My views have also changed throughout my PhD, and now I think of academia more as a business where scientific production and getting grants is the main objective. I try to work towards that while also remaining ethical and trying to establish good collaborations.
Also, well summarized by you: have your expectations in the right place, so you don’t get traumatized when you enter the system. Hard truths, to be honest, but truths nonetheless.
I agree with almost everything except the part that is a business where scientific production and grants are the main objective. I do not agree with this point of view. During my time in academia I saw a mass production of very low quality science, in many cases its literaly pseudoscience. Good science takes a lot of time and criativity. I would argue that the main purpose is the mass production of research papers, whether its good or bad science it doesnt matter. There is a big incentive to fraud and bad science.
I´m a layperson and follow Sabine´s channel for about two years now. Her books both belong to the best I´ve ever read about physics and science. Thank you for your useful addition to her "coming out"- video.
Schau hier um zu sehen wo er die Idee mit dem Anfangszitat her hat. Der Witz ist, dass Sabine sich über den Institutsleiter beklagt, der die Ideen für Textbücher von den Doktoranden erpresst/stiehlt. Er gibt sich hier mitfühlend, dabei macht er genau dasselbe. Oder warum ist der zeitliche Ablauf genau so wie im Sabine Video außer bei der Anfangssequenz?
In principle I agree with Sabine, only what would be the alternative? There are many things wrong with academia, but we must always remember that in the end it is the only entity capable of doing research independently (this is not always true of research done by private companies). So young researchers must change the system from within, not destroy it, because the alternative is much worse than academia.
Well, look at the track record. Fundamental science has stagnated for 50+ years. The only advancements happening are incremental improvements in engineering, which mostly happen outside of academia anyway, either in government or private labs. You're also extremely naive if you think research in academia is independent.
@@whitemakesright2177 With regard to medical research and drug testing, would you trust the judgment of a private company or an independent public body more to validate the results?
"...young researchers must change the system from within..." -- yes exactly, and I´m sure Sabine agrees with that💯. She wrote a fabulous book, titeled "Lost in Math", whose agenda is exactly this and makes a bunch of proposals to make things better. It was published in 2018. Unfortunately it seems, not many people read it, and since that, the scientific establishment tries to silence her, kinda scientific inquisition. I have a lot of understanding for her anger.
@@Thomas-gk42 I also bought that book and found it enlightening. What I mean to say is be careful about destroying everything without a serious alternative, because then we end up with the NO-Science people running the show.
It's all about connections there are millions of smart people it's about being in the right place at the right time with the right skill set and then getting struck by lightning 😁
No, Jon, getting paid to do what you love is how knowledge and humanity progresses and this should be your job in academia. You cannot and you should not compare it to monetising a hobby. Sabina describes a paper-mill toxic research environment where nothing new or innovative is ever produced, as in many cases current projects that get funded are based on flawed fundamental basic principles.
Jim Al-Kalili I'm very famous and very good science educator who's a professor of physics at the University of Surrey. He said his most cited article was 200 and I started science late in my life and one of my articles has only a hundred and I thought that that was bad but I guess it's not so bad....
It's almost illegal actually because they have to advertise the position to the public even if they've already filled it and this is essentially fraud I'm a lawyer.q
It also creates an "inbred" little group where every generation is worse scientifically than the previous one while they are all subservient and submissive to the bosses that hired them because they know that they didn't get the position based on their merits.
If you meditate you can summon ufos. This is called CE5 or HICE. I’ve done it before, and so can you. Just meditate for ufos with a Serious and open heart and you’ll get to film your own ufo experience
BE FAIR! Don't erase this comment. We can coexist. You apparently came up with same idea of putting the BS sequence in the beginning and leaving the rest in chronological order two days after me on your own. Fine with me. We cater to different audiences anyway. Me: Physicist at Sabine's level pointing out contradictions in an intellectual funny way one week after first watching her video. You: compassionate reaction video with nice personal insights, I admit that.
She profoundly influenced the developement of different fields of physics. Everywhere she has worked, she helped to create new ideas and left a theoretical framework that others minded for years. Sir Roger Penrose, Frank Wilcek and Steven Weinberg gave her interviews that are published in her books. In a recent interview, Lee Smolin named her as his most important idea giver. Though not anymore payed in academia, she published two scientific papers this year. Are you that megalomaniac by birth or did you take lessons?
@@whitemakesright2177And she´s quite successful, isn´t she? She´s not only a brilliant physicist and leading mathematician, but also a very foxy communicator. She uses her channel not just for earning her livelihood, but also for her agenda. What for? to make this world a better place, she´s unique and a gift for humanity.
What is your experience with academia?
Academic institutions are really unprofessional.
If the question is for me : I have had a lot of chances .I have take full professional profits on some , others not so good . But I have followed successfully my scientific projects ALONE and have published my papers in good journals without collaborators and out of the main streams of Physics in mostly of my papers . I was full professor at the age of 29 in Brazil and now I am retired at 64 .My list of publications .scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=list_works&hl=pt-BR&user=8_GsKRsAAAAJ&fbclid=IwAR2qnyU9-ZJkbIosZjdml9TdEeB-CwP93LE0PzLvCIjkzifP7Zz-yRQ8ijQ_aem_AVuCBWreFbIv6X2SEtw-zGhZznm0e6ppr0oF3bmi2ln8bKj1GjBafezRuAtAZ1_HTsHQ8bC8pbUE2OBPj9n5xJu_
@@josephvanname3377 Are you mad ? .
@@luizbotelho1908 I was a professor.
@@josephvanname3377 I have been a FULL professor either ! . Of course that Academic Institutions have a lot of problems as any other Institutions . But believe me : Perhaps Bad with them . Certainly much worse without them!.
"People high in agreeableness do well in academia"
That's a devastating indictment, because that is the exact opposite personality of a true innovator.
The 'conformity mindset' is blocking and impeding much progress we could be pioneering otherwise.
Great discussion Jon, I agree with everything you and Sabine said. I think is important for new students to recognize this side of academia before committing to a masters or a PhD. My views have also changed throughout my PhD, and now I think of academia more as a business where scientific production and getting grants is the main objective. I try to work towards that while also remaining ethical and trying to establish good collaborations.
Also, well summarized by you: have your expectations in the right place, so you don’t get traumatized when you enter the system.
Hard truths, to be honest, but truths nonetheless.
Exactly. I think very science people should watch the video of Sabine so they are well informed before joining academia.
I agree with almost everything except the part that is a business where scientific production and grants are the main objective. I do not agree with this point of view. During my time in academia I saw a mass production of very low quality science, in many cases its literaly pseudoscience. Good science takes a lot of time and criativity. I would argue that the main purpose is the mass production of research papers, whether its good or bad science it doesnt matter. There is a big incentive to fraud and bad science.
I´m a layperson and follow Sabine´s channel for about two years now. Her books both belong to the best I´ve ever read about physics and science. Thank you for your useful addition to her "coming out"- video.
I completely agree with her. I had the same experiences.
Hugs
Schau hier um zu sehen wo er die Idee mit dem Anfangszitat her hat. Der Witz ist, dass Sabine sich über den Institutsleiter beklagt, der die Ideen für Textbücher von den Doktoranden erpresst/stiehlt. Er gibt sich hier mitfühlend, dabei macht er genau dasselbe. Oder warum ist der zeitliche Ablauf genau so wie im Sabine Video außer bei der Anfangssequenz?
Maybe if Einstein followed a direct academic path, we wouldn't now know his name? I mean, a senior professor may have taken credit?
Hahahah most likely true. He was working at the Swiss Patent Office at the time so no colleague could steal his work.
In principle I agree with Sabine, only what would be the alternative? There are many things wrong with academia, but we must always remember that in the end it is the only entity capable of doing research independently (this is not always true of research done by private companies). So young researchers must change the system from within, not destroy it, because the alternative is much worse than academia.
Well, look at the track record. Fundamental science has stagnated for 50+ years. The only advancements happening are incremental improvements in engineering, which mostly happen outside of academia anyway, either in government or private labs. You're also extremely naive if you think research in academia is independent.
@@whitemakesright2177 With regard to medical research and drug testing, would you trust the judgment of a private company or an independent public body more to validate the results?
"...young researchers must change the system from within..." -- yes exactly, and I´m sure Sabine agrees with that💯. She wrote a fabulous book, titeled "Lost in Math", whose agenda is exactly this and makes a bunch of proposals to make things better. It was published in 2018. Unfortunately it seems, not many people read it, and since that, the scientific establishment tries to silence her, kinda scientific inquisition. I have a lot of understanding for her anger.
@@Thomas-gk42 I also bought that book and found it enlightening. What I mean to say is be careful about destroying everything without a serious alternative, because then we end up with the NO-Science people running the show.
It's all about connections there are millions of smart people it's about being in the right place at the right time with the right skill set and then getting struck by lightning 😁
Dude, before commenting on her accent you should consider yours...
I agree, her accent is not “very heavy”, and this guy here doesn’t speak like a BBC reporter himself either, so he should better stfu.
Haiyaaaa Uncle Jon so upset, I put my leg down from chair en eat egg frei rei 🤤🍚
Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic 😂
No, Jon, getting paid to do what you love is how knowledge and humanity progresses and this should be your job in academia. You cannot and you should not compare it to monetising a hobby. Sabina describes a paper-mill toxic research environment where nothing new or innovative is ever produced, as in many cases current projects that get funded are based on flawed fundamental basic principles.
But where do you get grants from?
The government, funding bodies of rich people (e.g. chanzuckerberg.com/), corporations with same research interests
@@DrawBioMed I wonder if the results of the research is not in the best of interest of the funding corporation, would it be published🤔
@@yokaisamaful You can try and see what happens
"Heavy German accent"? She has an accent but nothing heavy about it.
German accent is hot an ex of mine is German
@@DrawBioMedYou don't know how bad some people speak english here in germany. 😂
Jim Al-Kalili I'm very famous and very good science educator who's a professor of physics at the University of Surrey. He said his most cited article was 200 and I started science late in my life and one of my articles has only a hundred and I thought that that was bad but I guess it's not so bad....
She is right the grant / publish and perish paradigm must change for us to propel faster.
Why is Sabina's audio lower quality than her original?
So you can appreciate her amazing original video
Great video. 👍
Thank you! Wish you a happy science career after knowing the secrets 🧫
It's almost illegal actually because they have to advertise the position to the public even if they've already filled it and this is essentially fraud I'm a lawyer.q
It also creates an "inbred" little group where every generation is worse scientifically than the previous one while they are all subservient and submissive to the bosses that hired them because they know that they didn't get the position based on their merits.
If you meditate you can summon ufos. This is called CE5 or HICE. I’ve done it before, and so can you. Just meditate for ufos with a Serious and open heart and you’ll get to film your own ufo experience
Haha almost become scientific illustrator 😂 I felt that
We have so much in common 🥰🥰🥰
B.A., M.P.H., J.D. published in peer reviewed journals and the United Nations.
BE FAIR! Don't erase this comment. We can coexist. You apparently came up with same idea of putting the BS sequence in the beginning and leaving the rest in chronological order two days after me on your own. Fine with me. We cater to different audiences anyway.
Me: Physicist at Sabine's level pointing out contradictions in an intellectual funny way one week after first watching her video. You: compassionate reaction video with nice personal insights, I admit that.
No she quit because she cant discover anything important while focusing on silly videos
She profoundly influenced the developement of different fields of physics. Everywhere she has worked, she helped to create new ideas and left a theoretical framework that others minded for years. Sir Roger Penrose, Frank Wilcek and Steven Weinberg gave her interviews that are published in her books. In a recent interview, Lee Smolin named her as his most important idea giver. Though not anymore payed in academia, she published two scientific papers this year.
Are you that megalomaniac by birth or did you take lessons?
She also uses her real name while you hide behind a throwaway account, you coward
@@serialarchitect Hihi👌
I think she only started the RUclips channel after leaving academia.
@@whitemakesright2177And she´s quite successful, isn´t she? She´s not only a brilliant physicist and leading mathematician, but also a very foxy communicator. She uses her channel not just for earning her livelihood, but also for her agenda. What for? to make this world a better place, she´s unique and a gift for humanity.