Right now, Hogan's dealer is telling a potential customer - "Did you hear the shit Hogan said? He said that shit after he smoked my shit. That's how good my shit is. Are you sure you dont wanna try some? "
"I got some shit for sale you oughta get some! You'll be the highest guy that ever lived! It might kill you man you won't even know it! I can feel your best sense starting to give!" - Freebase by Pennywise.
For one Steven Richards has piercing blue eyes. Two, he has the ability to tell stories with his motions and expressions because of his wrestling ability.
@@deon3133 yeah you funny, but he’s not going to the Hall of Fame at all. It’s never gonna happen. It’s never gonna happen in the future and I mean it’s never gonna happen in the future. 2026,2027,2028 like I said he’s never going to the Hall of Fame. Never these people need to move on from the Internet. They need to move on their opinion don’t matter at all. They sick people in the head that they think their man or they don’t really don’t we make them in the future, and we just say we make fun of every single year and he still in the Hall of Fame because he doesn’t deserve
People will never forgive Chris, we just know how to separate the wrestler and the person and still its hard to watch the wrestler. I do believe Hogan says things for clicks.
I just wish people could understand Chris was very literally not himself. It's no excuse, but people need to UNDERSTAND that this what, 38 year old wrestler had the brain of an 80 year old Alzheimer patient. The man quite literally was not in his right mind, whatever was left of it.
@@TeemoQuintonhe was sane enough to work a match with Elijah Burke that same week; book his travel and lodging; drive; communicate with coworkers; take care of himself; and Google the easiest way to delete yourself. He was enough of himself to do all of these things so fuck him. Alzheimer’s patients can’t do any of those things.
No one in their right mind has "forgiven" Benoit. Most of us can recognize his work without glorifying him in a hall of fame or whatever. Hogan is fucking mark.
Chris Benoit as a wrestler was one of my favorites along with Eddie Guerrero. But once I found out how he murdered his family there is no forgiveness. Some people may think it’s important to recognize the in ring talent Benoit brought to WWE, I can understand that. But there is no forgiving. Hulk Hogan lives in his own world though.
@@TeemoQuinton Benoit had a whole list of issue leading up to it: his career was supposed to end in a matter of months, he had marital problems, huge anger management issues, steroid abuse, CTE, depression after Eddie died. It's not up to me to forgive him, what he did hurt me but nowhere near as much as it hurt the victims as well as Chris's other son and Nancy's sister. I understand the possible reasons, but I can't excuse it. Nobody can or should.
@@TeemoQuinton stop defending the killer. He’s not going to the Hall of Fame. You guys need to move on. You guys are gross and disgusting. This is pretty disgusting. It’s disturbing being nice to a killer. Who did something disturbing to his family that night. So stop just stop it stop it. It’s 2024 move on he’s never going to the Hall of Fame. Stop being so nice stop being so happy he’s never going to the Hall of Fame. It’s it’s embarrassing. This is pretty embarrassing. Go find your new wrestler. On AEW OR WWE because you guys need to move on this is disturbing
People didn't "forgive" Benoit for what happened. The most people have gone on from is "If I put what happened off to the side of my mind temporarily, his matches are still very enjoyable to watch", but the person was never forgiven.
Who cares if he had some fake wrestling matches that people liked. If a plumber who was the best plumber in the world had done the same would anyone say 'oh but he was such a good plumber lets try forgiving him for committing murder'? Benoit was a evil monster end of story
There are marks who keep trying to push their stupidity that his personal life should be separated from his professional. Those marks are either too stupid to get, or refuse to acknowledge that because of the tragic ending to his personal life his in ring career will not EVER be acknowledged by the places and companies that actually matter. The same thing applies to all those football players who had CTE that were great players before the brain trauma caught up to them their tragic incident will always overshadow their talent.
@lutherheggs451 Would these people also defend serial killers who happened to be great plumbers or electricians? What makes a wrestler so special that should make an exception for them? Oh Benoit was an expert at fake wrestling other guys big woop 🙄
Your statement is exactly why Hogan said what he said. Some go even further and say, "Well it wasn't really him, it was brain damage" or "Benoit and his family were killed by someone else". So many people try to justify what Benoit did because they can't just accept the fact he was a murderer of his family and there is no excuse for it. Hogan may be one of the biggest liars in the history of the business, but he never murdered his wife and children.
@@JackgarPrime Right we hate Terry Bollea not hulk hogan…he just wants to blur the lines btw Bollea n Hogan to keep people thinking he’s actually hogan, which is kayfabe…if people can put aside how bad Shawn Michaels was and apparently a whole new 180 degree person then people can put aside what Chris did when u talkin specifically about wrestling…once u understand how bad his physical health in his skull with CTE and concussions, but also mental health with having to deal with the physical pain and the personal problems with himself and his family and masked it with pain killers, as a lot of people do…with that being said, I’m not saying I “forgive” him or don’t hold him accountable cuz he is and he paid for it with his own life, but we can analyze and understand where and why things went wrong and make adjustments…that’s why not in just pro wrestling, but in sports in general, medicine and science has advanced tremendously since the 90s-05. Unfortunately, there’s nothing being done for mental illness and concussions. People don’t wanna help, and when people wanna help, the people in need don’t wanna talk…so,seeing from all these school schoolings, there’s nothing being done for anyone with mental illness and depression and that’s exactly what they want…as long as it makes them the most amount of money
It's actually brilliant,he's been a hero and a heel, have to keep on the ideas of teenage marks, it's in style to be a liar and pretend like you have multiple personalities so you're not responsible when you lie,,, again,,, brilliant
It's not that the fans have forgiven Benoit, it's that people take mental health and traumatic brain injuries into account. Unless a concussion made Hogan use his creative control the way he did and say racist remarks, there really isn't a comparison, is there?
To be fair, CTE would explain why Hogan has become completely detached from reality. Only problem is that Hogan didn't take any head and big back bumps for most of his career, so unless his brain is in his ass, he doesn't have much excuse...
This. The main problem, I think, is that the WWE isn't really allowing an honest conversation to be had as to the effect of the brain trauma on his actions. There's a lot of shaming going on for even entertaining the idea that his altered brain chemistry was the biggest factor. They've been burying this conversation wherever possible. Even Richards says here that alcohol drastically altered his actions, and what does alcohol most notably affect? Brain chemistry. Now he can make a decision to stop drinking, but he can't make a decision to unscramble his brain cells after a concussion. Also, people born with mental illness learn over time to adapt to many social difficulties, and even they can't solve every problem in that respect, and it's still easy to see how difficult it is for someone who's had bipolar disorder their entire life, for instance, to remain connected to reality, so imagine someone whose mind was previously healthy suddenly experiencing a mental illness for the first time. It'd be like if you exposed a deaf person to the sound of an air-horn for 24 hours. They wouldn't know how to handle that.
I can understand not liking Hogan, but there are a lot of people who talk good about Benoit and thinks he should be in the HOF. It's really weird. Watch the video of Heyman tearing into that dude that says that Benoit is his boy. Those people exist and there's a lot more out there than can hide behind their computer screens. These people are very loud on the internet too.
a loud vocal minority does not represent wrestling fandom as a whole. weirdos are gonna weirdo on the internet, but that doesn't mean wrestling fans as a whole forgive him.
@@ronwapossibly you are def right, I'm just saying that this is probably what Hogan is thinking about. Sadly, people get grouped together. He was wrong by grouping us together about this topic but it does happen.
Listen to the response Paul got from that audience after his reaction and rant, they nearly blew the roof off the place in agreement. That was one dude in a sea of people who thought he was a fucking moron...
@@erikaw7767 well ask for me I don’t have CTE only because I’ve been hitting in my head only like a few times and I never went violent with anybody And there are some things were like I don’t remember things such as like if I say something crazy online or if I say something stupid getting into a fight with someone or I have no memory of it yeah, I can only go to sleep when I can remember all of the stuff that happened in my life and everything else but I don’t have CT. You can only get it if you’re getting hit by the head by someone which lucky for me I don’t have it but thank you for sharing with the class, my friend.
I never had to forgave him, cuz he didn’t nothing to me. he’s still one my favorite wrestlers. I don’t think his character was much different than him personally.
Kevin Nash mentioned that open alcohol containers were found in Benoit's house, but that reporting on it wasn't "sexy enough " for the media outlets. I tend to agree, as I know at least 2 guys who turn into different people when drinking hard alcohol.
@@RobertGoodwin-j1iI think what he meant was that hogan was part of the famous titanic band that was playing as the ship went down. Which I have no doubt is true.
No he hasn't.. That's why people still talk about him.. He's not wrong ,,people have seemed to of forgiven Chris.. He's definitely mentioned more , there elements of his wrestling career that are being seen more often , like the cross face being used. I think people just like to get offended .. None this means anymore has forgotten what occured and how tragic it was..
I never watched them just because it's weird. It was just his scrambled Alzheimer's like brain but it's still weird. People don't know that Verne Gagne had a Alzheimer's flashback and body slammed an old man in the nursing home and killed him. The brain is real folks...
Before WM 40 this year, I went back and watched all 39 priors in the span of about 2 months. When Benoit's first match came up (WM 2000?) I tried to watch it, but 5 minutes I couldn't separate his wrestling from how his life ended. So I skipped it, and all of his other matches at Mania
Not only do I watch Chris Benoit matches, I also consistently mod him into the WWE 2K game every year. Oh, and I also listen to Lostprophets. So umm, am I worse than Hitler or something?
I still cannot watch Benoit matches without feeling uncomfortable. I tried watching the triple threat main event of WM 20 with Benoit, HBK, and HHH recently because of how good I remember it being and Benoit just took away from it. So tired of hearing Hogan and his bs he says and does. What a vile person.
Nancy "Woman" Benoit deserves to be in the WWE Hall of Fame. She managed everyone in WCW, including Flair, and I will die on the hill that she made Tommy Dreamer.
Hogan's dealer: "Did you hear the shit Hogan said? He said that shit after he smoked my shit. That's how good my shit is. Are you sure you dont wanna try some? "
We will never forget what CB did, but that swiss cheese brain has killed more than a few NFL players, they aren't in their right mind as the atrocious things happens. You don't have to forgive him, and he doesn't need to be in the hof. What a tragedy
Rather than head injuries I would say drugs played a role. Steroids can mess up your thinking in high doses most of us who have operated in that world have experienced or know guys that are crazy aggressive on that shit. Combine it with upper/downers alcohol and depression and that's how that shit often happens. I would be shocked if 90 percent of guys who off their families weren't abusing drugs.
We know for a fact that his head injuries were extensive (like the brain of an 80-year-old with dementia, according to the doctor who examined it) and it's hard to deny that they played a role. What's hard to figure out is why Benoit in particular was so damaged; of course most if not all wrestlers have some level of brain damage, but brains like Benoit's are like the ones we see in the NFL, where former players routinely die or commit suicide before age 40, not something we really see often in wrestling.
@@JimCornetta it was an entire scandal in itself in the aftermath used by the press to justify why Benoit did what he did, it was pure speculation and a disgusting smear to disabled people everywhere.
I was a HUGE Benoit fan. God will judge him, I don't. I cannot ever see a scenario where he gets into any halll of fame. I wouldn't put him in because of what he did.
Is Hogan just working everyone to ensure he stays relevant? He's not an idiot. He reached the pinnacle in his professional career and manipulated those around him to stay there. Cynical, yes - but he doesn't lack intelligence Surely some of these things are pure click bait to ensure his relevance. He is the ultimate narcissist. He will not let himself fade into obscurity I think it's all a work
I think he's just so used to people buying his bullshit that he's forgotten it's bullshit. It's easy to do if you tell the same lie enough, you can forget it's a lie. He could stay relevant by telling the truth, too. Jim Cornette has stayed relevant by just giving his honest opinions on stuff, Stevie is doing the same, as do many former wrestlers.
The comparison to Benoit caused me to burst out laughing when I watched the interview because of how absurd it is. Hulk Hogan has done and said some monumentally stupid things over the years, but as Stevie said, he never murdered his wife and special needs son. At this point, everyone knows who he is and what he's about. He's just upset that not everyone loves him. I personally find him highly entertaining with his tall tales and obvious lies veering into the absurd. Perhaps he's trolling us all and running with the gimmick, as per his court statements, that he isn't Terry Bollea, but instead the character "Hulk Hogan" when he made certain statements.
I'm actually a fan of Hogan's lies. I think he's just performing. When he says he auditioned for Metallica to replace Cliff Burton, that's just funny. This however is not funny. In fact, this is one of the worst takes he's ever had. I know where he's coming from. I understand what he means. But I don't think he understands just how controversial this take is. Even if you think this, don't express it. It's still such a tragic event in history. The wounds still feel fresh in everyone's memory. Chris was very sick. Maybe he couldn't help having these destructive thoughts that sent him insane. But forgiveness is not on the table. The crime is just too severe.
"People are eventually gonna let you know who they are" Not me. I'ma keep you guessing forever. Am I a caveman? Am I a time traveler? Am I a crocodile? Your best guess will never come close.
I think you hit the Benoit situation perfectly. As a fan of Benoit as a teenager, seeing that tragedy unfold was absolutely awful. But growing up, I personally had to learn that: He wasn't in his right mind but it was due to his own life choices. Nancy and Daniel did not have a choice in the matter. Chris Benoit the performer was amazing. Chris Benoit, notably after Eddie died, the person...wasn't a person. We shouldn't exalt his accomplishments but use it as a cautionary tale.
I grew up in Houston and spent every weekend st my Pawpaw's farm in Louisiana. My Pawpaw and Grandpa who lived in Florida got me into wrestling. My Dad hated wrestling, but would take me to see shows in Houston, Louisiana and Florida. I was an OG Hulkamaniac. I watched the cartoon, saw No Holds Barred and Suburban Commando in theaters. However as I was exposed to more and more wrestling and retaining more memories, that began changing. By 1990 I was no longer a diehard fan. As a 44 year old, I can appreciate what Hogan the character meant to the business. But as a man, I really don't like him or believe anything he says.
I liked Benoit. I followed his career. I followed the incident and the aftermath. I will talk about his career. I will talk about the brain damage, which could be a reason the incident happened. Can I still say he was a talented wrestler? Yes, I can. Can I write off what he did? No. Is talking about his brain damage excusing what he did? No. It could be brain damage, it could be drinking, we can't really know. Did he have a Hall of Fame career? Imo, yes. Should he be in the hall of fame? No. It cannot and should not happen. What happened to his family was tragic and horrible. What a crazy comparison Hogan is making. I see plenty of people online defend Hogan. I see people condemning Benoit. He is talking so much nonsense.
@@Hexx_Iztenze I'd like to add that it bothers me that they cut Daniel and Nancy out of the Wrestlemania where Benoit wins the World title on the WWE network. I think them being erased is a disservice to their memory. It's also a sobering reminder that everything can be lost when we don't keep our demons in check.
It’s also completely different cuz Chris was dealing with mental heath and CTE, while that doesn’t excuse Benoit, it can at least explain how n why he did what he did…Hogan was just being a dick with the biggest ego always tryna cover up the truth cuz it’ll make his look bad…people nowadays can separate the wrestler from the person too and hogan really blurs the lines with reality and doesn’t hesitate to tell lies that makes no sense all n doesn’t help his character …so I don’t understand why he thinks he has to do it
I don't think people ever forgave Benoit, I think it was just the moment that finally woke people up to how senseless and stupid a lot of things behind the scenes were. In the context of everything, he's not fully to blame for how things ended. If anything, it's surprising that hasn't happened more throughout history due to what was considered "acceptable." In reality, who knows how many other cases like Snuka got swept under the rug.
Well, Hulk Hogan is certainly not as evil as Chris Benoit. That being said, Chris Benoit has not been rehabilitated by the WWE. He will not, and cannot ever be inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame. It's only a small subset of Chris Benoit fans who are vocal in their support of him. If I were them though, I would keep quiet.
How you feel about Hogan is how I feel about John Wayne. Hard to watch his movies knowing he's said plenty of terrible stuff back in the day. I mean Hogan said disgusting things too about his daughters boyfriend.
I don’t care what anyone says, a large portion of internet wrestling fans still love and defend Chris Benoit. This has been true for a long time, and it’s something I’ve always been baffled by. So of all the controversial statements Hogan has made, this one ranks really low for me.
Hogan is like that one family member everyone has. They can’t help but lie about any and everything. Telling the most outrageous stories. Always one upping your stories. Even when telling the truth, they sprinkle in exaggerations and lies to boost the story. Most Everyone in the family loves them and talk about how cool it is to hang with them. And even have fun and love to hear that family member’s outrageous tales. But they also know not to believe those bs stories. It’s just who The Hulkster is……. BROTHER!
It's not the role of the fans to forgive Benoit or Hogan. Benoit did what he did to his wife and child, it's up to his family and his wife's family to forgive him, no one else, it's no one else's business. Same as Hogan.
As someone who does remember the amazing wrestler that Chris Benoit was, and celebrates the person he was and the things he accomplished in Dub. Let me be very clear; I will never Forgive Chris Benoit for what he did on his last day. 1. It's not mine to forgive. 2. What he did was horrific and monstrous and that is far removed from the man Chris Benoit used to be. The day that Chris Benoits face ever shows up on a current day wwe production, should even the inkling of him being inducted into the HoF be mention? That will be the last day that I will watch something WWE produces. As a human being who values human life. I, and I hope we all, do not celebrate murders and child killers. RIP Nancy and Daniel.
Hogan was a pretty good interim bassist. Really held the band together before Robert Trujillo joined. It was his idea to mess with the drums in St Anger 😂
As someone who grew up a big Hogan fan, I’ve lost total respect for the man. His racist statements alone lost me. I do not forgive him for anything he’s said.
There have been so many as good or better wrestlers and are still that I'm not missing anything by never watching another one of his matches or talking about anything he was involved with ever again.
This is a tough one for me because Chris Benoit is my favorite wrestler of all time. His in-ring work is god-tier but his crime is unforgiveable. We will never know what contributed to it, be that CTE, depression, substance abuse or a combination of all those things. I can still love his work but also hate what he did.
I got a feeling that we are all being worked. I theorize that Hogan and Cornette are working together; Hogan says ANYTHING to put heat on himself and then Cornette makes a video about it which gets huge traction. Then somewhere along the line Stevie was like, "Yo fellas, can I get in on this?"
Was going to say something about Hogan projecting with Chris, but Hogan's having a music hit with a Gary Glitter song. WOW! I think that's something he SHOULD keep quiet about.
I forgive and understand that Chris Benoit was not in his right mind, but I will never forgive him for killing Nancy and Daniel. R.I.P. Nancy and Daniel.
I have a friend that is in no way a Trump supporter. At all. But he's a huge Hogan fan, and even met him in person in the aftermath of Scott Hall's passing. In spite of everything that Hogan did, whenever Hulk does anything, including the Trump endorsement, that guy still cheers him on.
You don't speak for all of the fan. I have forgiven him. His brained was literally screwed. In before "but people without other mental illnesses don't kill people."
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182whatever he killed his family there's no forgiveness from god for this act only weirdos like you will say I have no problem watching his match cuz i only see him as a great technical wrestler when seeing his matches but irl i know what monster he became end of his days yeah cte and roids make him terrible but still its not a way to forgive somebody
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 its ok to understand and take me tal illness/damage into account, but it doesnt absolve him from what he did. Tragic, yes, but no less horrifying. Appreciating his work, acknowledging his character before the onset of his issues, sure, but the fact remains that he murdered his own family and that cant be swept aside with sympathy for his condition
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 Generally speaking, people with a mental illness are less of a threat to others than mentally healthy people are. Vastly bigger threat to themselves, but less dangerous to those around them.
I was watching a political podcast the other day that described Trump as having the super power of having no shame. He can say absurd lies all day; his fans don't care and they will shower him with adoration. Hogan is just like his boy.
Sadly, male narcissism and delusion isn't rare nor useful and impressive enough to be a superpower. Unless you class a superpower as a damaging mutation a la X-Men, then yes, sure.
*I was a HUGE Benoit fan myself & it legit makes my blood boil when fans continue to make excuses, even go as far as to make up conspiracy theories surrounding what he did. Its disrespectful to the ACTUAL victims, both Nancy his wife & Daniel his DISABLED son.*
While I do get where Hogan is coming from, the comparison is insane: Benoit was one of the greatest wrestlers ever, whose in-ring work deserves nothing but admiration, who then did an extremely terrible deed (and Stevie is spot in about who has to forgive or judge). Hogan OTOH was a mediocre wrestler rightfully criticized for his backstage politicking but - applying the standard of current times - what I would barely raise an eyebrow about what he did in his private life. (And he actually defeated a real-life monster villain in Gawker.) This is actually not a case of forgiveness but of separating art and artist. Why do I get where Hogan is coming from? Well, he wasn't ostracized and cancelled for any of his backstage misdeeds, not even for his adultery but for saying a bad word. And in this, Hogan's accusers were way worse than he was.
Hogan is one of the very few people that I give a pass to for just about everything. hehe. He could say that he he was with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Mike Collins on the Apollo 11 mission, and I would say, 'ohh Hulk is being Hulk...just living the gimmick'. If it was anyone else, I would write them off as a lying POS. I don't know why..but I have a soft spot for the guy.
Hulk didn't have a problem with booker getting the belt, he had a problem losing to Jarrett and Russo had no idea what he would do afterwards. If hulk didn't wanna lose to booker because he's black, why would hulk lose to the rock like 3 years later?!?!
I'd say he's more delusional then trump. Because I bet Hogan actually believes what he's saying. trump knows that his base of supporters love it when he says their things at a rally or in a debate. He doesn't necessarily buy into or even care about any of it.
I met Hulk Hogan a week or two ago at a meet & greet. There were at least a few thousand people there. So Hulk isn’t doing to bad & still has multi millions of fans
@jamesmaskell3743 What's your point, or do you normally stop writing comments halfway through? he was alive for 2 days after it, where he went through an entire bible and ripped out every page that mentioned hell. He went insane, woke up and then realised what he done, damned himself to hell and took his own life.
My interest in wrestling had been waning for a few years, but the Benoit murders made me disassociate myself from wrestling completely for about a decade. I have heard several others fans say something similar. It could have killed the whole industry and basically led to the birth of the PG era. Even today people who aren’t wrestling fans know about the Benoit murders. I don’t “forgive” him. I did finally go back and rewatch some of his matches but to be honest I don’t even need to do that at this point, there are enough other talented wrestlers past and present whose matches I can watch ad infinitum and not feel like I’m “missing out” by not watching Benoit.
I think Stevie said it perfectly. We can respect the work Benoit did as a wrestler, but was absolutely one of the worst people outside of it. We should be able to separate the art from the artist. But geez, I think Hogan just buried himself as a terrible person with that statement
I mean, was he really a bad guy? I mean there is a 100% possibility that he did that frame. They got murder by a whole bunch of peep you know I remember watching the TV show heels and the one thing I know is that do I believe he’s in hell for committing suicide no because once you’re in suicide, you can go to heaven and all this other stuff and like I don’t believe in that religious bs The point is what I’m trying to make is that like one you commit suicide you won’t have to worry because they’re not the only thing you need to think about is that they’re not in hell they just go onto a better place
But why? lol... to be fair there are people out there that want benoit in the HOF because they think he didn't do it either because his brain or he was framed (very small % of dorks)... If they can excuse that in their minds why not him for being a big dumb wrestler lol. it shouldn't matter what a 6'8 wreslter who is clearly not bright, thinks.
@@erikaw7767 I am thinking OK I’m not trying to be like an asshole or anything I try to like the whole thing with David like I feel bad for him and now since Kevin is dead, he should feel bad about himself and I feel bad for him and I want him to become a wrestler and I want him to have some love in his life it’s not having a whole bunch of hate like I’m so pissed off that he is not a wrestler because of this nonsense like it’s ridiculous if you can just listen to me for five minutes that’s all I ask me this. Listen to me for five minutes and if you can believe my theory, then I will tell you what’s really going on and if you can just tell me what you think about it then maybe just maybe you understand what I’m saying he shouldn’t have to runaway or change his name or getting picked on because his father was a dickhead like I don’t like that stuff I care about him just like I care about his family who went through this tragedy. I know that he was framed and I know that there was someone in the house before hand I’m not know government agent and not no detective or not no police officer. I’m just a normal wrestling fan who knows true crime stuff when it does because I’m a true crime fan. I watch plenty of police shows and conspiracy documentaries prove that he is innocent and he never lay a finger on Daniel or Nancy the one thing that you and everybody else forget about the tragedy the last thing that Chris said to Chavo was that his son and wife had food poisoning they were at a restaurant before the tragedy happened like don’t you think for one second that someone could lure him out of the house murder the two of his family and then when he came back inside, did do something to him and then after that, they hang him with weight bencher the cause of the hit his head and then King him from his room after that right after that they got rid of the evidence and what I found about the situation is that the cops got there and then all the sudden decided to leave so quickly I believe there was a mistake and they must’ve read the whole autopsy wrong they didn’t even check his semen or his fingerprint or any of that to see if he didn’t do any trouble. All we know is that all three people were dead and it almost killed wrestling to begin with if I am right about this and they got killed by someone just tell David that I got his back because I know how it feels to lose a family member and somebody else treat you like crap like you can’t just be someone you’re not just to let the consequences happen that’s why I’m trying to tell all you people. The whole thing could be a lie. It could be a whole entire set up I’m not doing it for my own benefit. I’m not doing it for anything else. I’m trying to be a great guy and do helping for a great because I like to help people that’s who I am I would never ever ever ever ever take advantage of somebody else’s life and if Chris was still here, he would’ve told you the same thing
Not gonna lie, Hulk doing background vocals for Metallica would have been brutal. "Hell," "brother," "yeah," "no," "oh," "Ooo..." and other utterances and both clearly within the vocabulary and vocal range of James Hetfield and Hulk. Hulk n' Hetfield if you will.
HOF Ceremony with a serious tone: "boy, you know,...uhhh, he really wiped his family out there but let's talk about how good his chops were." I laughed but I felt bad doing so.
The saddest part was people blaming Kevin Sullivan and the conspiracy theories around Benoit's death. If anything Benoit was a pos to Sullivan and Benoit fans didn't want to acknowledge he's a real life monster and blamed Kevin Sullivan for a freaking gimmick he had.
Hogan has achieved 'drunk Uncle at a Wedding' status. He makes noise and people shake their heads and move away from him. He isn't relevant anymore, and hasn't been for a while, which is possibly partly what is prompting these ridiculous statements. He wants publicity. The WWE is doing just fine without him, McMahon is no longer there - He must feel like he is in danger of being utterly forgotten or overshadowed by the legacies of Bret, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, Cena, Punk...
To Stevie's point at 11:20, yeah, there are many ways in which Chris showed his dark side over the years. also keeping in mind, when the tragic incident happened him and Nancy were both pounding bottles of wine.
Stevie, been watching you since I was a kid. I hated you. Because you were so good as a heel, in RTC, your channel has been great. Made me realize how well spoken, realistic, and astute you are. You're way better than Hogan, buddy. BWO!
Who's forgiven Benoit except his son? That aside, ppl don't forgive Hogan bc he's done 💩 things & when ppl start to forgive him 😅he does more 💩 things. Very few ppl that know Hogan have anyrhing good to say about him as a person. He isn't a decent human being
@tpc3347 I'm not saying Benoit was a bad guy his entire life, but he certainly left this world as a bad guy. Sometimes in life it is possible to commit acts so terrible at the end of one's life that it can completely change the way you are thought of. Something snapped in Benoit towards the end and those last few days of his life over wrote the life he lived before.
If the question starts out as "Did Hulk Hogan really just..." the answer is always yes.
Exactly brother.
How despicable does a person have to be when the only example of someone worse than themself that they can think of is the guy who murdered his family
Except when the next words are "tell the truth?"
@@someguywithanopinion506 let's be fair to Hogan, there were plenty of other guys he could have picked. But the fact that's his goto...
Thats not exactly true, a lot of times its no lmao
Hogan deserves respect. Nobody can work 400 days in a year like he did.
🤣🤣🤙🏾🤙🏾
Did you know that Hogan's time-travelling shenanigans hopping back and forth to Japan is what inspired the 1978 Superman movie?
@@bipolarminddroppings was that before or after he formed Metallica ?
Yea for sure
Or lift Andre the Giant over his head 😂
"He didn't say that.......Tell me,he did not,just say that."-Booker T
Hogan, we're coming for you, .....
😂😂😂@@supportpatriarchyordietrying
Were kummin for ya mother sucker fucker
@@supportpatriarchyordietrying😂
@@sadetwizelve Suckaaaaa!!!!!
"I've never used my creative control clause even once" May be the biggest lie Hogan has ever told.
Absolutely
That doesn't work for me brother
Yup 100% When I first heard this even I thought it was bullshit.
Nah, it's not the biggest but it's the most obvious falsehood.
He once changed the booking of a match during the middle of it
Hogan probably saw that clip with Paul Heyman roasting that guy for saying Chris Benoit was his boy thinking the wrestling world forgave Benoit. 😂
Right now, Hogan's dealer is telling a potential customer - "Did you hear the shit Hogan said? He said that shit after he smoked my shit. That's how good my shit is. Are you sure you dont wanna try some? "
As a former dealer and now part owner of a dispensary... I don't know any people looking to have their weed make them a lying jackass. Just saying...
@dhotnessmcawesome9747 when all you know is average you'll happily settle for it
"I got some shit for sale you oughta get some! You'll be the highest guy that ever lived!
It might kill you man you won't even know it! I can feel your best sense starting to give!" - Freebase by Pennywise.
Didn’t Hogan say he smoked with RVD?
@@dhotnessmcawesome9747 I'd try that sort of strain once out of curiosity and I'd do it alone as to not make a jackarse of myself but that just me
Damn, you can see the emotions within Stevie's eyes, they speak volumes
i am pretty sure that Stevie is still hurting over this, he knew everyone involved, has worked with them. that makes it a lot more personal.
Does Stevie have like a TDS towards Hogan?
@@rattnroll84what?
For one Steven Richards has piercing blue eyes. Two, he has the ability to tell stories with his motions and expressions because of his wrestling ability.
If Hogan is seeing fans that have "forgiven" Benoit on Social Media then he has a very terrible Social media feed.
It’s people that want Benoit in the hall of fame. U can look in a lot of comment sections on RUclips and see that .
Hulk Hogan has lost his mask of sanity a long time ago.
@@deon3133 yeah you funny, but he’s not going to the Hall of Fame at all. It’s never gonna happen. It’s never gonna happen in the future and I mean it’s never gonna happen in the future. 2026,2027,2028 like I said he’s never going to the Hall of Fame. Never these people need to move on from the Internet. They need to move on their opinion don’t matter at all. They sick people in the head that they think their man or they don’t really don’t we make them in the future, and we just say we make fun of every single year and he still in the Hall of Fame because he doesn’t deserve
ive seen more people Pro Benoit than Anti Benoit online
@@deon3133that doesn't mean you forgive him.
People will never forgive Chris, we just know how to separate the wrestler and the person and still its hard to watch the wrestler. I do believe Hogan says things for clicks.
I just wish people could understand Chris was very literally not himself. It's no excuse, but people need to UNDERSTAND that this what, 38 year old wrestler had the brain of an 80 year old Alzheimer patient.
The man quite literally was not in his right mind, whatever was left of it.
@@TeemoQuintonit's not an excuse, but a factor as to why he did what he did. Still unforgivable, mind
His own son has forgave him. Nobody was more impacted by what happened than him
@@TeemoQuintonI agree it’s not an excuse, its the reality of the situation
@@TeemoQuintonhe was sane enough to work a match with Elijah Burke that same week; book his travel and lodging; drive; communicate with coworkers; take care of himself; and Google the easiest way to delete yourself. He was enough of himself to do all of these things so fuck him. Alzheimer’s patients can’t do any of those things.
No one in their right mind has "forgiven" Benoit. Most of us can recognize his work without glorifying him in a hall of fame or whatever. Hogan is fucking mark.
how about somebody prove that he did it before we react like lab rats?
Its a crazy amount of peole who still make excuses for that shtpile psycho murderer!
If we want to hold the same standards; "glorify the work, condemn the man". Hogan needs to be removed from the HOF. What about Snuka, removed too?
@@matthewsingleton8802Anything other than videotape footage isn't good enough for you?
@@dethclaw None of what they did is even remotely compareable to benoit ! What is wrong with you people??
Chris Benoit as a wrestler was one of my favorites along with Eddie Guerrero. But once I found out how he murdered his family there is no forgiveness. Some people may think it’s important to recognize the in ring talent Benoit brought to WWE, I can understand that. But there is no forgiving. Hulk Hogan lives in his own world though.
I just preach understanding with Benoit. He did it, but be was quite literally a full on dimentia patient doing it.
@@TeemoQuinton Benoit had a whole list of issue leading up to it: his career was supposed to end in a matter of months, he had marital problems, huge anger management issues, steroid abuse, CTE, depression after Eddie died.
It's not up to me to forgive him, what he did hurt me but nowhere near as much as it hurt the victims as well as Chris's other son and Nancy's sister. I understand the possible reasons, but I can't excuse it. Nobody can or should.
Do me a favour, fuck off making excuses for him. Literally no other CTE patient has done what he done.
Benoit Didn't Do It
Kevin Sullivan Did
@@TeemoQuinton stop defending the killer. He’s not going to the Hall of Fame. You guys need to move on. You guys are gross and disgusting. This is pretty disgusting. It’s disturbing being nice to a killer. Who did something disturbing to his family that night. So stop just stop it stop it. It’s 2024 move on he’s never going to the Hall of Fame. Stop being so nice stop being so happy he’s never going to the Hall of Fame. It’s it’s embarrassing. This is pretty embarrassing. Go find your new wrestler. On AEW OR WWE because you guys need to move on this is disturbing
People didn't "forgive" Benoit for what happened. The most people have gone on from is "If I put what happened off to the side of my mind temporarily, his matches are still very enjoyable to watch", but the person was never forgiven.
Who cares if he had some fake wrestling matches that people liked. If a plumber who was the best plumber in the world had done the same would anyone say 'oh but he was such a good plumber lets try forgiving him for committing murder'?
Benoit was a evil monster end of story
There are marks who keep trying to push their stupidity that his personal life should be separated from his professional. Those marks are either too stupid to get, or refuse to acknowledge that because of the tragic ending to his personal life his in ring career will not EVER be acknowledged by the places and companies that actually matter.
The same thing applies to all those football players who had CTE that were great players before the brain trauma caught up to them their tragic incident will always overshadow their talent.
@lutherheggs451 Would these people also defend serial killers who happened to be great plumbers or electricians? What makes a wrestler so special that should make an exception for them? Oh Benoit was an expert at fake wrestling other guys big woop 🙄
Your statement is exactly why Hogan said what he said. Some go even further and say, "Well it wasn't really him, it was brain damage" or "Benoit and his family were killed by someone else". So many people try to justify what Benoit did because they can't just accept the fact he was a murderer of his family and there is no excuse for it. Hogan may be one of the biggest liars in the history of the business, but he never murdered his wife and children.
@@JackgarPrime Right we hate Terry Bollea not hulk hogan…he just wants to blur the lines btw Bollea n Hogan to keep people thinking he’s actually hogan, which is kayfabe…if people can put aside how bad Shawn Michaels was and apparently a whole new 180 degree person then people can put aside what Chris did when u talkin specifically about wrestling…once u understand how bad his physical health in his skull with CTE and concussions, but also mental health with having to deal with the physical pain and the personal problems with himself and his family and masked it with pain killers, as a lot of people do…with that being said, I’m not saying I “forgive” him or don’t hold him accountable cuz he is and he paid for it with his own life, but we can analyze and understand where and why things went wrong and make adjustments…that’s why not in just pro wrestling, but in sports in general, medicine and science has advanced tremendously since the 90s-05. Unfortunately, there’s nothing being done for mental illness and concussions. People don’t wanna help, and when people wanna help, the people in need don’t wanna talk…so,seeing from all these school schoolings, there’s nothing being done for anyone with mental illness and depression and that’s exactly what they want…as long as it makes them the most amount of money
I no longer think Hogan has any connection to "the truth."
It took you this long?
It's actually brilliant,he's been a hero and a heel, have to keep on the ideas of teenage marks, it's in style to be a liar and pretend like you have multiple personalities so you're not responsible when you lie,,, again,,, brilliant
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or "reality"
I think my fav offensive Hogan quote was while he was getting divorced and he said: "Now I understand why OJ did it."
It's not that the fans have forgiven Benoit, it's that people take mental health and traumatic brain injuries into account. Unless a concussion made Hogan use his creative control the way he did and say racist remarks, there really isn't a comparison, is there?
To be fair, CTE would explain why Hogan has become completely detached from reality. Only problem is that Hogan didn't take any head and big back bumps for most of his career, so unless his brain is in his ass, he doesn't have much excuse...
Would his brain being in his ass explain why he's constantly talking out of his ass?
@@bipolarminddroppings Why do you think Hogan is detached from reality? Is it because he said the no-no word?
@@echolalia682
Do you even know of hogan?
This. The main problem, I think, is that the WWE isn't really allowing an honest conversation to be had as to the effect of the brain trauma on his actions. There's a lot of shaming going on for even entertaining the idea that his altered brain chemistry was the biggest factor. They've been burying this conversation wherever possible. Even Richards says here that alcohol drastically altered his actions, and what does alcohol most notably affect? Brain chemistry. Now he can make a decision to stop drinking, but he can't make a decision to unscramble his brain cells after a concussion. Also, people born with mental illness learn over time to adapt to many social difficulties, and even they can't solve every problem in that respect, and it's still easy to see how difficult it is for someone who's had bipolar disorder their entire life, for instance, to remain connected to reality, so imagine someone whose mind was previously healthy suddenly experiencing a mental illness for the first time. It'd be like if you exposed a deaf person to the sound of an air-horn for 24 hours. They wouldn't know how to handle that.
I can understand not liking Hogan, but there are a lot of people who talk good about Benoit and thinks he should be in the HOF. It's really weird. Watch the video of Heyman tearing into that dude that says that Benoit is his boy. Those people exist and there's a lot more out there than can hide behind their computer screens. These people are very loud on the internet too.
a loud vocal minority does not represent wrestling fandom as a whole. weirdos are gonna weirdo on the internet, but that doesn't mean wrestling fans as a whole forgive him.
@@ronwapossibly you are def right, I'm just saying that this is probably what Hogan is thinking about. Sadly, people get grouped together. He was wrong by grouping us together about this topic but it does happen.
Listen to the response Paul got from that audience after his reaction and rant, they nearly blew the roof off the place in agreement. That was one dude in a sea of people who thought he was a fucking moron...
And?
Is hogan admitting that he has cte?
what is that??
Google it
That doesn't work for me brother... or maybe it does dude.
@@billybadass3056 if you don't know what cte is.. you have it.
@@erikaw7767 well ask for me I don’t have CTE only because I’ve been hitting in my head only like a few times and I never went violent with anybody And there are some things were like I don’t remember things such as like if I say something crazy online or if I say something stupid getting into a fight with someone or I have no memory of it yeah, I can only go to sleep when I can remember all of the stuff that happened in my life and everything else but I don’t have CT. You can only get it if you’re getting hit by the head by someone which lucky for me I don’t have it but thank you for sharing with the class, my friend.
No one forgave Benoit, there are just some wrestling fans that can separate the performance from the man.
I never had to forgave him, cuz he didn’t nothing to me. he’s still one my favorite wrestlers. I don’t think his character was much different than him personally.
@@krissanders987 And here you see the edgy dumbass in the wild.
@@krissanders987 it's always nice when sociopaths out themselves so publically.
You need some help bud
Kevin Nash mentioned that open alcohol containers were found in Benoit's house, but that reporting on it wasn't "sexy enough " for the media outlets. I tend to agree, as I know at least 2 guys who turn into different people when drinking hard alcohol.
Benoit had no alcohol in him, but Nancy did. Why everything about the case is so bizzare.
Hulk Hogan found the Titanic in 1985. Just ask him. He also built the Titanic. By himself. Just ask him.
Hogan was in band actually you people need do research
@@tonyslicer7399 yes. He was recruited by Metallica. Just ask him. He was better than Cliff Burton ever was.
@@RobertGoodwin-j1iI think what he meant was that hogan was part of the famous titanic band that was playing as the ship went down. Which I have no doubt is true.
@@k_ir3868 that is actually true. He played until the end and then swam all the way to New York. Brother.
He hung and bung there before his match with Hercules, brother
Hogan has single handedly destroyed his legacy little by little since 1995
Some might say since 1993. WM 9 comes to mind.
No he hasn't..
That's why people still talk about him..
He's not wrong ,,people have seemed to of forgiven Chris..
He's definitely mentioned more , there elements of his wrestling career that are being seen more often , like the cross face being used.
I think people just like to get offended ..
None this means anymore has forgotten what occured and how tragic it was..
He can never destroy his legacy he is an icon and you are a certified Panzy
He’s another Ric Flair; his own worst enemy, and he can’t help himself.
@@bonilla4205 he can't destroy it but has def taken away from it.
It took me a soild 10 years for me to sit down and watch Benoit matches without fast forwarding it
I know the feeling.
I never watched them just because it's weird. It was just his scrambled Alzheimer's like brain but it's still weird.
People don't know that Verne Gagne had a Alzheimer's flashback and body slammed an old man in the nursing home and killed him. The brain is real folks...
Before WM 40 this year, I went back and watched all 39 priors in the span of about 2 months. When Benoit's first match came up (WM 2000?) I tried to watch it, but 5 minutes I couldn't separate his wrestling from how his life ended. So I skipped it, and all of his other matches at Mania
Not only do I watch Chris Benoit matches, I also consistently mod him into the WWE 2K game every year.
Oh, and I also listen to Lostprophets.
So umm, am I worse than Hitler or something?
I still cannot watch Benoit matches without feeling uncomfortable. I tried watching the triple threat main event of WM 20 with Benoit, HBK, and HHH recently because of how good I remember it being and Benoit just took away from it. So tired of hearing Hogan and his bs he says and does. What a vile person.
Why? Benoit was a victim of CTE. He didn't do anything wrong. The lack of awareness on this is ASTOUNDING.
@@ModernDayRenaissanceManHumans are emotional creatures. Especially wrestling fans. They’re the last group of fans who would use critical thinking.
I'm sorry, but did Hulk Hogan just accuse me of forgiving Chris Benoit?
Nancy "Woman" Benoit deserves to be in the WWE Hall of Fame. She managed everyone in WCW, including Flair, and I will die on the hill that she made Tommy Dreamer.
Call him Terry not hulk maybe he will start behaving like a real person
Based on what Glitter did, that's not a boast I'd be willing to put my name to.
Was going to say it not someone you would want to be referenced with.
Gary Glitter? That's true.
His situation is similar to what Buck Zumoff did.
My parents and their friends used to get all dressed up and go in a huge group to Gary Glitter concerts. I have never let them forget it.
I thought the same thing.
To take a page out of Hogan's book, but flipping it into a negative. Hulk Hogan is a national treasure, Terry Bollea isn't.
Brit literally says “Hawk Hogan” lmao, it’s not just MarkyD
SUOISYO
“But he sounds dumb so shut up before I smack you one.”
In Hulks defense he does smoke a ridiculous amount of weed
Hogan's dealer: "Did you hear the shit Hogan said? He said that shit after he smoked my shit. That's how good my shit is. Are you sure you dont wanna try some? "
so do i, and i dont say or believe such tripe.
Weed doesn't make you a lying racist, it may however make your social filter droo
Hogan does not smoke weed.
Booker T: Tell me he didn't just say that?
We will never forget what CB did, but that swiss cheese brain has killed more than a few NFL players, they aren't in their right mind as the atrocious things happens. You don't have to forgive him, and he doesn't need to be in the hof. What a tragedy
Rather than head injuries I would say drugs played a role. Steroids can mess up your thinking in high doses most of us who have operated in that world have experienced or know guys that are crazy aggressive on that shit. Combine it with upper/downers alcohol and depression and that's how that shit often happens.
I would be shocked if 90 percent of guys who off their families weren't abusing drugs.
We know for a fact that his head injuries were extensive (like the brain of an 80-year-old with dementia, according to the doctor who examined it) and it's hard to deny that they played a role. What's hard to figure out is why Benoit in particular was so damaged; of course most if not all wrestlers have some level of brain damage, but brains like Benoit's are like the ones we see in the NFL, where former players routinely die or commit suicide before age 40, not something we really see often in wrestling.
@WhereIsTheIntruder the flying headbutt, was named as a big contributor all those suplexes too.
Benoit son did not have special needs guys. Nancy sister on the talk is Jericho podcast said he didn’t
Kind of irrelevant isn’t it?
@@JimCornetta It's relevant. Helping spread fake info isn't good.
@@JimCornetta it was an entire scandal in itself in the aftermath used by the press to justify why Benoit did what he did, it was pure speculation and a disgusting smear to disabled people everywhere.
@@shams3831 he killed his son what was the case your just being a bitch
I was a HUGE Benoit fan. God will judge him, I don't. I cannot ever see a scenario where he gets into any halll of fame. I wouldn't put him in because of what he did.
Is Hogan just working everyone to ensure he stays relevant? He's not an idiot. He reached the pinnacle in his professional career and manipulated those around him to stay there. Cynical, yes - but he doesn't lack intelligence
Surely some of these things are pure click bait to ensure his relevance. He is the ultimate narcissist. He will not let himself fade into obscurity
I think it's all a work
I think he's just so used to people buying his bullshit that he's forgotten it's bullshit. It's easy to do if you tell the same lie enough, you can forget it's a lie.
He could stay relevant by telling the truth, too. Jim Cornette has stayed relevant by just giving his honest opinions on stuff, Stevie is doing the same, as do many former wrestlers.
Hogan IS an idiot.
The comparison to Benoit caused me to burst out laughing when I watched the interview because of how absurd it is. Hulk Hogan has done and said some monumentally stupid things over the years, but as Stevie said, he never murdered his wife and special needs son. At this point, everyone knows who he is and what he's about. He's just upset that not everyone loves him. I personally find him highly entertaining with his tall tales and obvious lies veering into the absurd. Perhaps he's trolling us all and running with the gimmick, as per his court statements, that he isn't Terry Bollea, but instead the character "Hulk Hogan" when he made certain statements.
I'm actually a fan of Hogan's lies. I think he's just performing. When he says he auditioned for Metallica to replace Cliff Burton, that's just funny. This however is not funny. In fact, this is one of the worst takes he's ever had. I know where he's coming from. I understand what he means. But I don't think he understands just how controversial this take is. Even if you think this, don't express it. It's still such a tragic event in history. The wounds still feel fresh in everyone's memory. Chris was very sick. Maybe he couldn't help having these destructive thoughts that sent him insane. But forgiveness is not on the table. The crime is just too severe.
Stevie!!!! I'm glad you took maven advice to start a youtube channel !!! Mad props from Portugal, love to see u well
"People are eventually gonna let you know who they are"
Not me. I'ma keep you guessing forever. Am I a caveman? Am I a time traveler? Am I a crocodile? Your best guess will never come close.
You’re the Repo Man.
I think you hit the Benoit situation perfectly. As a fan of Benoit as a teenager, seeing that tragedy unfold was absolutely awful. But growing up, I personally had to learn that:
He wasn't in his right mind but it was due to his own life choices.
Nancy and Daniel did not have a choice in the matter.
Chris Benoit the performer was amazing. Chris Benoit, notably after Eddie died, the person...wasn't a person.
We shouldn't exalt his accomplishments but use it as a cautionary tale.
Makes perfect sense. And Hogan is an absolute piece of shit for bringing up this tragedy
I grew up in Houston and spent every weekend st my Pawpaw's farm in Louisiana.
My Pawpaw and Grandpa who lived in Florida got me into wrestling.
My Dad hated wrestling, but would take me to see shows in Houston, Louisiana and Florida.
I was an OG Hulkamaniac.
I watched the cartoon, saw No Holds Barred and Suburban Commando in theaters.
However as I was exposed to more and more wrestling and retaining more memories, that began changing.
By 1990 I was no longer a diehard fan.
As a 44 year old, I can appreciate what Hogan the character meant to the business.
But as a man, I really don't like him or believe anything he says.
I liked Benoit.
I followed his career.
I followed the incident and the aftermath.
I will talk about his career. I will talk about the brain damage, which could be a reason the incident happened.
Can I still say he was a talented wrestler? Yes, I can.
Can I write off what he did? No.
Is talking about his brain damage excusing what he did? No.
It could be brain damage, it could be drinking, we can't really know.
Did he have a Hall of Fame career? Imo, yes.
Should he be in the hall of fame? No. It cannot and should not happen.
What happened to his family was tragic and horrible.
What a crazy comparison Hogan is making.
I see plenty of people online defend Hogan. I see people condemning Benoit.
He is talking so much nonsense.
Reasonable take, pretty much sums up how I feel.
@diamondhead1984 Thanks, I appreciate that. It's a difficult and complicated subject, I feel.
@@Hexx_Iztenze I'd like to add that it bothers me that they cut Daniel and Nancy out of the Wrestlemania where Benoit wins the World title on the WWE network. I think them being erased is a disservice to their memory. It's also a sobering reminder that everything can be lost when we don't keep our demons in check.
@diamondhead1984 I'd agree with you on that. I haven't watched it on the network, so I wasn't aware of it as I have that Mania in my dvd collection.
It’s also completely different cuz Chris was dealing with mental heath and CTE, while that doesn’t excuse Benoit, it can at least explain how n why he did what he did…Hogan was just being a dick with the biggest ego always tryna cover up the truth cuz it’ll make his look bad…people nowadays can separate the wrestler from the person too and hogan really blurs the lines with reality and doesn’t hesitate to tell lies that makes no sense all n doesn’t help his character …so I don’t understand why he thinks he has to do it
Lets be fair about this. Hogan could also have CTE. He's still a racist POS. But he might not be totally in control of his brain.
I don't think people ever forgave Benoit, I think it was just the moment that finally woke people up to how senseless and stupid a lot of things behind the scenes were.
In the context of everything, he's not fully to blame for how things ended. If anything, it's surprising that hasn't happened more throughout history due to what was considered "acceptable." In reality, who knows how many other cases like Snuka got swept under the rug.
“That’s Hulk Hogan’s signature look, blonde chinese hair and the skin of a hotdog”
It's true. Dude ruled the 80's looking like a Hebrew National covered in mustard. Dude is a living NY street vendor's cart.
@@J.Lee83😂😂😂😂
I appreciate the always sunny reference
Well, Hulk Hogan is certainly not as evil as Chris Benoit.
That being said, Chris Benoit has not been rehabilitated by the WWE. He will not, and cannot ever be inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame.
It's only a small subset of Chris Benoit fans who are vocal in their support of him. If I were them though, I would keep quiet.
How you feel about Hogan is how I feel about John Wayne. Hard to watch his movies knowing he's said plenty of terrible stuff back in the day. I mean Hogan said disgusting things too about his daughters boyfriend.
I don’t care what anyone says, a large portion of internet wrestling fans still love and defend Chris Benoit. This has been true for a long time, and it’s something I’ve always been baffled by. So of all the controversial statements Hogan has made, this one ranks really low for me.
Never go full Hulkster
Hogan is like that one family member everyone has. They can’t help but lie about any and everything. Telling the most outrageous stories. Always one upping your stories. Even when telling the truth, they sprinkle in exaggerations and lies to boost the story. Most Everyone in the family loves them and talk about how cool it is to hang with them. And even have fun and love to hear that family member’s outrageous tales. But they also know not to believe those bs stories. It’s just who The Hulkster is……. BROTHER!
Hogan hasn't done anything nearly as bad as Benoit.
It's not the role of the fans to forgive Benoit or Hogan. Benoit did what he did to his wife and child, it's up to his family and his wife's family to forgive him, no one else, it's no one else's business. Same as Hogan.
That don't work for me brother.
I was a big fan of Benoit, and I can't watch his matches, because the sight of him makes me feel ill.
Didn't Steph compare something really stupid to 9/11?
She compared the steroid trial to 911
As someone who does remember the amazing wrestler that Chris Benoit was, and celebrates the person he was and the things he accomplished in Dub. Let me be very clear; I will never Forgive Chris Benoit for what he did on his last day.
1. It's not mine to forgive. 2. What he did was horrific and monstrous and that is far removed from the man Chris Benoit used to be.
The day that Chris Benoits face ever shows up on a current day wwe production, should even the inkling of him being inducted into the HoF be mention? That will be the last day that I will watch something WWE produces.
As a human being who values human life. I, and I hope we all, do not celebrate murders and child killers. RIP Nancy and Daniel.
Hogan was a pretty good interim bassist. Really held the band together before Robert Trujillo joined. It was his idea to mess with the drums in St Anger 😂
As someone who grew up a big Hogan fan, I’ve lost total respect for the man. His racist statements alone lost me. I do not forgive him for anything he’s said.
My opinion is that I'm not mad at Hogan for his racist comments. Everyone is this life isn't going to like you, and that's fine with someone like me.
Racist says racism is fine with them. Shocking.
@@butkusfan23I'm not bothered by his comments. I'm not a fan of his, so I can care less what he says about African Americans, and I'm A.A.
@@butkusfan23that should teach you to do a bit of critical reading and not to jump to conclusions. SJWs are rarely constructive.
Andrea did die a few days later after WM , But HOGAN raised him from the dead .
One can't deny Benoit's Legendary Wrestling Career/Legacy but Him as a Man and what he did is Unforgivable
I can deny his wrestling and career. He was overrated
@@Real_Name_Jimno, he wasn’t
There have been so many as good or better wrestlers and are still that I'm not missing anything by never watching another one of his matches or talking about anything he was involved with ever again.
Didn't his son say something about wanting his dad in the HOF???
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Never Understood why People need to Capitalize random Words
This is a tough one for me because Chris Benoit is my favorite wrestler of all time. His in-ring work is god-tier but his crime is unforgiveable. We will never know what contributed to it, be that CTE, depression, substance abuse or a combination of all those things. I can still love his work but also hate what he did.
I love hearing Stevie's take on things. The way he speaks makes it easy to hook onto what he's saying
I got a feeling that we are all being worked. I theorize that Hogan and Cornette are working together; Hogan says ANYTHING to put heat on himself and then Cornette makes a video about it which gets huge traction. Then somewhere along the line Stevie was like, "Yo fellas, can I get in on this?"
i could believe that if jimmy wasent so transparent about things and people he truly despises, lol.
More of Hogan's lies...
"Fuck Benoit."- The fans
Was going to say something about Hogan projecting with Chris, but Hogan's having a music hit with a Gary Glitter song. WOW! I think that's something he SHOULD keep quiet about.
I forgive and understand that Chris Benoit was not in his right mind, but I will never forgive him for killing Nancy and Daniel. R.I.P. Nancy and Daniel.
As Jim Cornette one said, “you have never heard all of Hulk Hogan’s lies, unless you have heard every word that has ever come out of his mouth”
"Metallica bassist Hulk Hogan "
James you slick with that one lmao
I have a friend that is in no way a Trump supporter. At all. But he's a huge Hogan fan, and even met him in person in the aftermath of Scott Hall's passing. In spite of everything that Hogan did, whenever Hulk does anything, including the Trump endorsement, that guy still cheers him on.
The fans haven't forgiven Benoit, it's the trolls out here talking about putting him in the HOF and such.
You don't speak for all of the fan. I have forgiven him. His brained was literally screwed.
In before "but people without other mental illnesses don't kill people."
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182whatever he killed his family there's no forgiveness from god for this act only weirdos like you will say I have no problem watching his match cuz i only see him as a great technical wrestler when seeing his matches but irl i know what monster he became end of his days yeah cte and roids make him terrible but still its not a way to forgive somebody
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 its ok to understand and take me tal illness/damage into account, but it doesnt absolve him from what he did. Tragic, yes, but no less horrifying. Appreciating his work, acknowledging his character before the onset of his issues, sure, but the fact remains that he murdered his own family and that cant be swept aside with sympathy for his condition
@@beethovenlivesupstairs4182 Generally speaking, people with a mental illness are less of a threat to others than mentally healthy people are. Vastly bigger threat to themselves, but less dangerous to those around them.
You're wrong. I see LOTS of people on forums, like reddit, that say it wasn't his fault due to CTE. They are calling him a VICTIM.
I was watching a political podcast the other day that described Trump as having the super power of having no shame. He can say absurd lies all day; his fans don't care and they will shower him with adoration.
Hogan is just like his boy.
Sadly, male narcissism and delusion isn't rare nor useful and impressive enough to be a superpower. Unless you class a superpower as a damaging mutation a la X-Men, then yes, sure.
Yup. I think that speaks volumes to our status as a country. We don’t want truth. We want confirmation and affirmation.
*I was a HUGE Benoit fan myself & it legit makes my blood boil when fans continue to make excuses, even go as far as to make up conspiracy theories surrounding what he did. Its disrespectful to the ACTUAL victims, both Nancy his wife & Daniel his DISABLED son.*
Sadly nothing Hogan says would shock me at this point
While I do get where Hogan is coming from, the comparison is insane:
Benoit was one of the greatest wrestlers ever, whose in-ring work deserves nothing but admiration, who then did an extremely terrible deed (and Stevie is spot in about who has to forgive or judge).
Hogan OTOH was a mediocre wrestler rightfully criticized for his backstage politicking but - applying the standard of current times - what I would barely raise an eyebrow about what he did in his private life. (And he actually defeated a real-life monster villain in Gawker.)
This is actually not a case of forgiveness but of separating art and artist.
Why do I get where Hogan is coming from? Well, he wasn't ostracized and cancelled for any of his backstage misdeeds, not even for his adultery but for saying a bad word. And in this, Hogan's accusers were way worse than he was.
Hogan is one of the very few people that I give a pass to for just about everything. hehe. He could say that he he was with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Mike Collins on the Apollo 11 mission, and I would say, 'ohh Hulk is being Hulk...just living the gimmick'. If it was anyone else, I would write them off as a lying POS. I don't know why..but I have a soft spot for the guy.
Same Man.
The first step is admitting you have a problem, this is good. Next step is to stop doing all of that. Hulk IS a pos.
Hogan's BS is relatively harmless at the end of the day. It's not like the rock who is trying to sell you a product or push an agenda.
Mark
@@xsoultillerx Guess you never heard that Hogan faked a neck injury from a match he had with Taker then.
Hulk didn't have a problem with booker getting the belt, he had a problem losing to Jarrett and Russo had no idea what he would do afterwards. If hulk didn't wanna lose to booker because he's black, why would hulk lose to the rock like 3 years later?!?!
He's as delusional as Trump
@@Ultrasoniic stupid idiot?
I'd say he's more delusional then trump. Because I bet Hogan actually believes what he's saying. trump knows that his base of supporters love it when he says their things at a rally or in a debate. He doesn't necessarily buy into or even care about any of it.
@@Ultrasoniic another trump *ss licker
@@Ultrasoniic same narcissist personality
@Ultrasoniic Trump is not a politician, he's a showman.
You're so cool Stevie.
Hulk Hogan is the GOAT
The chris benoit thing is kinda true though people do still highly rate him thats fact
I can’t believe people don’t understand what he was saying.
Me too. I was like “…is that it?”
I met Hulk Hogan a week or two ago at a meet & greet. There were at least a few thousand people there. So Hulk isn’t doing to bad & still has multi millions of fans
Fans love and respect Benoit the wrestler, but not Benoit the person.
I agree to a point. I appreciate the worker but hate the man.
Love the art, hate the artist
I disagree, by all accounts Benoit was a great person until he went mad one night. I'm not going to hate someone for succumbing to a disability
@@molsy1768 it was done over three days.
@jamesmaskell3743 What's your point, or do you normally stop writing comments halfway through?
he was alive for 2 days after it, where he went through an entire bible and ripped out every page that mentioned hell.
He went insane, woke up and then realised what he done, damned himself to hell and took his own life.
My interest in wrestling had been waning for a few years, but the Benoit murders made me disassociate myself from wrestling completely for about a decade. I have heard several others fans say something similar. It could have killed the whole industry and basically led to the birth of the PG era. Even today people who aren’t wrestling fans know about the Benoit murders. I don’t “forgive” him. I did finally go back and rewatch some of his matches but to be honest I don’t even need to do that at this point, there are enough other talented wrestlers past and present whose matches I can watch ad infinitum and not feel like I’m “missing out” by not watching Benoit.
I think Stevie said it perfectly. We can respect the work Benoit did as a wrestler, but was absolutely one of the worst people outside of it. We should be able to separate the art from the artist. But geez, I think Hogan just buried himself as a terrible person with that statement
I mean, was he really a bad guy? I mean there is a 100% possibility that he did that frame. They got murder by a whole bunch of peep you know I remember watching the TV show heels and the one thing I know is that do I believe he’s in hell for committing suicide no because once you’re in suicide, you can go to heaven and all this other stuff and like I don’t believe in that religious bs The point is what I’m trying to make is that like one you commit suicide you won’t have to worry because they’re not the only thing you need to think about is that they’re not in hell they just go onto a better place
But why? lol... to be fair there are people out there that want benoit in the HOF because they think he didn't do it either because his brain or he was framed (very small % of dorks)... If they can excuse that in their minds why not him for being a big dumb wrestler lol. it shouldn't matter what a 6'8 wreslter who is clearly not bright, thinks.
Thanks fam, this just gave me a stroke@@WrestlingGod-f4v
I don't respect anything that vanilla midget did, he is a stone cold killer.
@@erikaw7767 I am thinking OK I’m not trying to be like an asshole or anything I try to like the whole thing with David like I feel bad for him and now since Kevin is dead, he should feel bad about himself and I feel bad for him and I want him to become a wrestler and I want him to have some love in his life it’s not having a whole bunch of hate like I’m so pissed off that he is not a wrestler because of this nonsense like it’s ridiculous if you can just listen to me for five minutes that’s all I ask me this. Listen to me for five minutes and if you can believe my theory, then I will tell you what’s really going on and if you can just tell me what you think about it then maybe just maybe you understand what I’m saying he shouldn’t have to runaway or change his name or getting picked on because his father was a dickhead like I don’t like that stuff I care about him just like I care about his family who went through this tragedy. I know that he was framed and I know that there was someone in the house before hand I’m not know government agent and not no detective or not no police officer. I’m just a normal wrestling fan who knows true crime stuff when it does because I’m a true crime fan. I watch plenty of police shows and conspiracy documentaries prove that he is innocent and he never lay a finger on Daniel or Nancy the one thing that you and everybody else forget about the tragedy the last thing that Chris said to Chavo was that his son and wife had food poisoning they were at a restaurant before the tragedy happened like don’t you think for one second that someone could lure him out of the house murder the two of his family and then when he came back inside, did do something to him and then after that, they hang him with weight bencher the cause of the hit his head and then King him from his room after that right after that they got rid of the evidence and what I found about the situation is that the cops got there and then all the sudden decided to leave so quickly I believe there was a mistake and they must’ve read the whole autopsy wrong they didn’t even check his semen or his fingerprint or any of that to see if he didn’t do any trouble. All we know is that all three people were dead and it almost killed wrestling to begin with if I am right about this and they got killed by someone just tell David that I got his back because I know how it feels to lose a family member and somebody else treat you like crap like you can’t just be someone you’re not just to let the consequences happen that’s why I’m trying to tell all you people. The whole thing could be a lie. It could be a whole entire set up I’m not doing it for my own benefit. I’m not doing it for anything else. I’m trying to be a great guy and do helping for a great because I like to help people that’s who I am I would never ever ever ever ever take advantage of somebody else’s life and if Chris was still here, he would’ve told you the same thing
Not gonna lie, Hulk doing background vocals for Metallica would have been brutal.
"Hell," "brother," "yeah," "no," "oh," "Ooo..." and other utterances and both clearly within the vocabulary and vocal range of James Hetfield and Hulk. Hulk n' Hetfield if you will.
Hogan is just a weirdo dude
Did you see JDfromNY was on Vince Russo’s show? Lol
@@thisiskris017
Im not watching anything with JD
@@adrenochromejoe7448 Oh he’s cringe but he mentions Twfs, just a bizarre collab
@@thisiskris017
Going against Kevin never ends well
HOF Ceremony with a serious tone: "boy, you know,...uhhh, he really wiped his family out there but let's talk about how good his chops were." I laughed but I felt bad doing so.
Dude is living rent free. Why are you so obsessed with talking about this man?
💯
He’s the GoAt and when Hulk passes away all these guys will be kissing his ass.
I’m not sure you actually understand the meaning of the words you’re using.
Not surprising.
@@Rschr101 He's a racist piece of scum.
@@joshuaDstarks sorry, I can't understand you. I don't speak BROKE
No one forgave him his matches were just good.
The saddest part was people blaming Kevin Sullivan and the conspiracy theories around Benoit's death. If anything Benoit was a pos to Sullivan and Benoit fans didn't want to acknowledge he's a real life monster and blamed Kevin Sullivan for a freaking gimmick he had.
Hogan has achieved 'drunk Uncle at a Wedding' status. He makes noise and people shake their heads and move away from him. He isn't relevant anymore, and hasn't been for a while, which is possibly partly what is prompting these ridiculous statements. He wants publicity. The WWE is doing just fine without him, McMahon is no longer there - He must feel like he is in danger of being utterly forgotten or overshadowed by the legacies of Bret, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, Cena, Punk...
To Stevie's point at 11:20, yeah, there are many ways in which Chris showed his dark side over the years. also keeping in mind, when the tragic incident happened him and Nancy were both pounding bottles of wine.
Stevie, been watching you since I was a kid. I hated you. Because you were so good as a heel, in RTC, your channel has been great. Made me realize how well spoken, realistic, and astute you are. You're way better than Hogan, buddy. BWO!
Who's forgiven Benoit except his son? That aside, ppl don't forgive Hogan bc he's done 💩 things & when ppl start to forgive him 😅he does more 💩 things. Very few ppl that know Hogan have anyrhing good to say about him as a person. He isn't a decent human being
We are now joining CTE already in progress.
As a person with mental problems I don't forgive Benoit for what he did, but I do understand why it happened. I still love and respect his work.
Nobody has forgiven Benoit. People are capable of saying that Benoit was one of the best in wrestling but also a terrible excuse of a human being.
@tpc3347 I'm not saying Benoit was a bad guy his entire life, but he certainly left this world as a bad guy. Sometimes in life it is possible to commit acts so terrible at the end of one's life that it can completely change the way you are thought of. Something snapped in Benoit towards the end and those last few days of his life over wrote the life he lived before.