They kinda fixed strike aircraft already with the ticket bleed nerf, and they're adding some extra objectives to some maps, something like oil refineries, so that maybe will get baked in some time to get that... i wish
Gaijin nerfs and neuters US equipment. The F15E radar is pathetic compared to the Eurofighter. The LFP of the SEPV2 was nerfed intentionally. Time to take a break from this game.
Also, GRB should be on par with ARB when it comes to rewards. Having to play like crazy to get 10k of RP when playing tanks is crazy considering people can fly in a straight line for a few minutes, bomb a base, get one kill and die and get 20k RP
The First Update of War Thunder in 2025 it's gotta be the arrival of the F/A-18 Hornet. Don't care is anyone is gonna throw trash at it but it's gotta be in game. it's been too many updates passed since it's not been added.
It probably hasnt been added yet because they always try to give each nation an update where they beat everything else. right now its france/germany/italy but the wheel will eventually turn and the F-18 will get added and the US will be on top again
I think they should add the Norwegian air sub tree to sweden. Even if they double the current Finnish air sub tree, it will still be quite small compared to other nations. Norway offers a lot of needed variation in the Swedish air tech tree, as well as filling gaps.
I've been advocating for Sweden to get the norway and Denmark subtrees for a while. Make it a full Scandinavian tree. Problem is we might have to wait a little cause the amount of leopard 2A7s they would get from this would probably make them the strongest top tier nation in game hands down. Then again the leopards aren't as strong as they were a couple patches ago with the depression nerf and this new CAS meta.
recalling my previous comment: "Sweden is pretty ok with air tt but at rank 5-6 is kinda empty, yes the planes there do the job but by today Gaijin standards it needs some fillers, I'm expecting a new subnation makin its way there, maybe they expand finland but they're already filling some places at lower tiers so maaaybe they're adding norway to replace finland at that rank, so it'd continue till top tier with the "supposed" norweigan F18" Yeah, Finland is a very small classic sub tree but it stops being important once props end, it empties once you reach jets and takes a couple ranks to get decent, Norway would enter to complement the jet era and end up with a Hornet, i know everyone will get one too. Aaaaaaand there's so little DESIGNATED IN GAME strike aircraft for a nation that ended up turning almost all it's aircraft into that role, the first one is the SK60B... I don't mind they adding the swedish mosquito or something, even prototypes, Sweden DOESN'T have anything between 4.3-6.7, and the 4.7 is a finnish bf so yeah, they could've added more aircraft there a long time ago. (dreaming for them to add the A21B (definitive Saab 21, with overheating issues solved, bubble canopy), J23 (Swedish zero) or the J27 (the "swedish super spitfire"), but they're gonna go the easy way for sure...
My personal prediction is for Swedish top tier, that being the introduction of the JAS39E (Gripen E). I see this being a very possible next addition for Sweden because of the introduction of AESA radar and the new disadvantage of having nothing to compete with typhoons and rafales
@ that is very true, also Brazil doesn’t technically have possession of the aircraft at the moment, but they do have a purchase order out for about 30 of them
@@paulsteaven that’s a very good point and would be a bit of work to model on the devs side, but I believe the Gripen E is on a slimmer airframe than its predecessor which could distinguish it as a separate aircraft. A good comparison would be the Strike Eagle version of the F-15 compared to its own predecessors
@@tylerkarpinsky602gripen e is larger with more powerful engine and can carry 9 air to air missile 6 on the wings and 3 on the belly. The only thing maybe holding back gripen e is the wepon system its the newest stuff of the new aim 120 c-7 and meteor and irst for ir is the common loadout they carry and nothing close to those wepons is in the game yet
I wish they would add some kind of mechanic that you can apply real camo nets like on the new tiger premium wich could also be movable if you enable it in the options. Would be a nice addition. I also would like more customization for the tanks like, removing the side skirts, adding logs. Maybe it would also be cool to keep or place some ricochets. Would be cool imo.
Regarding SPAAs that comprise multiple vehicles, there's a couple of options where they can incorporate the functionality into a single vehicle. SLAMRAAM for example relies on an external radar unit, but the launcher vehicle itself is pretty straightforward. Similarly, the Swedish military has a tracked vehicle that tows a small launcher with IRIS-T on it. That could be an option. Larger batteries like Patriot... yeah not convinced they'd work well in-game unless they increased map size and used them as a stationary opt-in spawn. (i.e. the batteries don't move - you can pick one and spawn as part of it). At that point, electronic warfare becomes viable for general SEAD to allow for CAS to operate. Then you see air dominance become much more important. It'd also open up the possibility of using SPHs as actual artillery instead of direct-fire vehicles. You could add spotter drones for example and relay GPS coordinates for SPHs to fire on. Hell, at maps of that size, having naval vessels in the same mixed battles becomes viable. I guess what I'm saying is that to get battery style SPAAs you need much bigger maps, in which case you probably want to create a whole new gamemode, which the game could do with. Either simulator or realistic but with large maps, new spawn mechanics, new objective mechanics and a combination of naval, air and ground assets.
@mel.darion9354 actually some things are based off western equipment,like for example IAR93,we had for event,is the project started at the same as in Yugo,but their paths of design devided in later versions since yugo one goes to western equipment and romanian to east modifications
We also need a Central Europian/Pan European tree for 🇵🇱🇨🇿🇬🇷🇹🇷🇦🇹🇸🇰🇱🇹🇪🇪🇱🇻. Sure some like Poland could go to Germany and the Baltics to the USSR but I feel a controversial tree would be funnier
Before, i thought germany needed a swiss f 18 since the ef 2000 t1 is strictly air to air, and the f 18c could be a good cas plane, but it seems like we skipped to the ef 2000 t2 with brimstones, so we probably wont need a swiss sub tree, since we already have a decent top tier and cas.
For ground, I think we might see some of those newer tanks which are actually the standard chassis with entirely new gun systems, such as the Leopard/Lerclerc mix.
I would love if they add the south african sub tree like the hawk mk120 and atlass cheetah at rank 7 but iam not sure if they would do it but i would absolutely love it
@martinwellhoefer9159 they saldy haven't, I've read through the patch notes at least the ones from before and after the storm warning update, and no mention of the Su-27 or Migs. But heck, even if they have its still ways out of what it should be.
If they do add naval missiles they’d better make them like 8.0 and NOT a separate tech tree otherwise the other ships will get left unused by most of the player base, the reason for 8.0 is so they would blur with battleships as this would be too broken
They should honestly start the naval arc adding some new *modern* ships capable of long range missile combat would be nice to see. Basically add more cool modern ships to naval
im just praying for the object 477 or 195 and the 640. I JUST LOVE THEIR DESIGN AND ALL, the 640 could go under the t80 line since it is a t80 and the 477 could be a premium or event vehicle and the 195 could go under the t90 line.
Me and my friends would love a premium Norwegian F-16 in the sweedish tree. Thst way we could all buy it and proudly play the cool jet together, regardless of which tech tree we're normally playing.
I actually think there is a chance the F22 gets added in the 2025 December patch. It’s crazy to think about, but at the rate we are going plus already having access to stealth technology in the F117, it’s definitely possible.
Its either gonna be op as hell or artificially nerfed. Soon top tier will just be matches full of f35s. Every nation except russia and china will get f 35s.
I think before we get anywhere near gen 5 top tier we need to rework the game to make it playable with weapons like aim 120 c-d or even input he differences between a-b. Not to mention aim 9x and other foreign counter parts. Role based games would be nice to see rather than team death match all the time. I can only play sim so long… ADD HEADLIGHTS TO NIGHT BATTLES
12:20 They could make the one vehicle then when you get to where you want to be you can deploy it and the systems open up. This would mean you could put your radar off to the side so if they add in SEAD the SEAD will then hit the radar but not the command or lunch systems if they are far enough away. That is the whole purpose of network SPAA systems, one radar can get diddled but another is still feeding info
I honestly dont enjoy air much even with multiple air trees done, and i just feel like the game has been focusing on air for the last year it just is really limiting especially with how many vehicles we can get.
One thing i think they should do is reduce the amount of clouds in a match. I dont mind clouds, but sometimes it's too much especially when you have clouds below 100 meters making it very hard to multipath. Its also very hard to multipath when there are dusk matches with thunderclouds, you can barely see a thing and you may have to turn on night vision (if you even have it) to multipath without crashing.
it's sad that we're already looking to the next year for what to get. Shows the game is fundamentally broken and the new additions are just momentary distractions. Will we ever be satisfied enough to sit on an update and enjoy it for a few months?
@@mostafamohammedahmed3404neither. It's the way live service game audiences enjoy their games. I ALWAYS look for the next thing. If nothing is on the horizon, I simply stop playing. Leaks play an important role too. Knowing roughly what to expect but having 0 details is key. That's also why I play this ridiculously grindy game - I get excited about an end goal (i.e. Rafale right now), then I massively enjoy my limited time with every vehicle up to it, knowing our time together is very brief. This makes me return to a lot of vehicles later, whilst not feeling stuck to them. There are a lot of people like me, and it's not an inherently bad thing. There's also a lot of nuance.
The only things they could add for the US air trees in modern aircraft terms would be the F-14D, F-18 and its variants, F-35 and its variants, and the F-22. It’s kinda wild that after next year, it might be it for the US tree.
I am kinda hoping that we get a BR expansion along with the Rank expansion. With 8 being cut back to 12.0-13.3, and 13.7/14.0 being 9. I think a lot of the BVR/Missile-truck jets should be at Rank 9. Top tier really is a big cluster right now.
IMO one of the first major things we're going to get next year is the Mitsubishi F-2. This patch honestly wouldve been the perfect time to do it along with the other 4.5 gens. Sure, irl its better then early rafales or eurofighters, but... in warthunder its going to lack a lot of the specialized EW characteristics that make it so great irl. Its slower then the other 4.5 gens, it has no HMD, fewer countermeasures, and only 4 fox-3s. So, unless gaijin is waiting to give it more modern missiles, or to fix its currently existing ones, its gonna be almost DOA if it arrives much later. Sure, its radar is going to be insanely good, probably being among the best ever added into game since its the J/APG-2 (the -1 doesnt work with datalink). But... they should've just added the radar gimped like they did the other aesas.
You think Gaijin will go for the 130/140mm 80s prototypes and the still in developpment tanks like Abrams X, EMBT, Leclerc Evo and KF51 Panther... or the T14 Armata
I think the f18 will be held back until more hype surrounds the top gun 3 film. I also think that india will give british air the rafale, and if not it will be made its own standalone nation. I think theres gonna be a bit of filler with high speed interceptors in the 9.7-11.0 br range with the f102, f106 and mig 25/mig 31 Im certain subs are coming to the game but i also think they might be included in coastal rather than deep water. I think theres gonna be a lot more decompression for both air and ground. Some naval reworks and an air rework for a bomber mode to allow for the addition of big name cold war jet bombers: b52, tu 95, b1, b2, tu -95, tu-160 (probably not 2025 for both naval and ground reword) I also imagine naval research costs will be dropped through the floor to make it more attractive to players.
I hope they will add more meaningfull secoundary objects to ARB so it won't be as boring and give graund units in GRB more means to defend themselfes from Air so its not Ground Air Battle
Sweden is pretty ok with air tt but at rank 5-6 is kinda empty, yes the planes there do the job but by today Gaijin standards it needs some fillers, I'm expecting a new subnation makin its way there, maybe they expand finland but they're already filling some places at lower tiers so maaaybe they're adding norway to replace finland at that rank, so it'd continue till top tier with the "supposed" norweigan F18
The british need a late war light crusier with any actual AA battery, A HMCS light crusier would be great considering the Aussies and kiwis already have bluewater ships and the Canadians don't. Obviously, the Thai tree needs a good fighter... late war post US refit nelson!!!! And fast battleships, please!!
Only things i hope they add this year is new game modes other then team death match and some sort of pve mode for air as for vehicles all i want is the mig 31 f14D and new eurofighter upgrades
1) I want new game modes---Rush, Defense, Capture the Flag, 1v1 duel for air battles. More objectives with a meaningful impact, I want a map where the objective is to win either by killing all the enemy player OR destroy their aircraft carriers, or bases, or bunkers to enable ally AI to move forward to capture an airfield or FOB. I hate the fact that AI cannot bleed tickets anymore I want them to revert it, who TF said remove AI causing ticket bleed?! 2) New maps, carriers for naval maps in air battles---to land on/takeoff from, give land based an artificial island to land on cuz its not that complicated. 3) Su-37/47! 4) Restructuring the tech trees to make them more streamline and logical---placement of vehicles or do what armored warfare does a global tech tree system, proper vehicle designations---Hellcats is not a LT, it was a TD, JF-17 is a fighter not a Strike Fighter, MiG-27 are Strike Fighters not Fighters. 5) More customizations of vehicles such as, fuel slide is now 0% to 100% our choice what to take, redesign the weapon selection menu something akin to DCS or Janes series of simulators or Strike FIghters simulations. 6) Do add-on new modern stuff but also bring more old era stuff. 7) Do less events, 4 events a year and 4 BP's, Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter events, I need breaks man, too many events and grinds. 8) Make drones great again as drones right now are worthless. Put them closer to the BF. 9) RP reductions for modules!!! stock grinding is the bane of this game!!! 10) Finally the most important thing... sincerity and openness, communicate with the audience, don't be silent, don't make false promises, don't try to be greedy, and fix bugs ASAP! so many things get labelled as "not a bug! when it is! or when something is missing from the vehicle irl standard but gets ignored!
They rly need to add 15,3 in air with current vehicles already Su-27S/f15a/Su-33/jas39a should go 13,7 av8 with spamraams 14,0/14,3 Su-27SM, f15c, f16c, jas39c 15,0 EF, Rafale f15e 15,3
If they add rank 9 my A-6E will be useless. And i want multicrew so bad, i mean dcs has it but thats a bit too complicated to be fun. So if they add multicrew for Top tier Air SB and maybe ground SB that would be awesome.
I think for spaa they should just make fictional vehicles. As long as theyre not crazy i dont care of some fantasy pantsir equivalent i just want something to deal with rank 8 jets
I think we will get next gen IR missile, better fox 3, and 4.5 for every nation, probably mid year we will get the su30sm and f18C and by the end of the year the SU 35 with TRV and the super hornet, gripen E and better rafales and EFs
If there were to be a new french subtree i feel like it would be spain, I obviously dont expect much to come from it other than a few vehicles to fill holes in the benelux subtree. That would mean that they'd get things like the eurofighter, t26 and pz III or II's (t26's and pz II's were supplied during the spanish civil war in 1936) but, I wouldn't expect it to be added in thr next major update but I feel like it would by mid 2026 or late 2025. Edit: do correct me if i have made any name (and / or) error with vehicle's and if they're spanish or not.
It does, but not immediately. It's like the flaps or G Overload warning. Or, for ground, when your radiator gets damaged. Nothing breaks right away, but if you push it harder, you may find out when it does break. It's the game's way of saying "Hey, you're good right now, but this is your last warning. If you keep pushing, your engine will be damaged" How far/long can you REALLY go before any damage? That relies on your experience with the vehicle, and toeing the line to find out :) it's different for each one, each environment, and each elevation. It's just a small part of the skill ceiling
@@dalh598.1oh thats interesting I always just manually tweaked my radiators to be just below the yellow I thought putting it in yellow or orange lowers the temp needed for it to turn red
Hopefully - especially with Submarines coming, they redo the Naval tech trees so that it's DD, Cruiser, and battleship lines - with maybe some areas especially as we get more modern that overlap or additional lines if they want to differentiate certain things like light and heavy cruisers or fast battleships/battlecruisers and 'standard' battleships. Cause as someone that actually plays naval arcade - the line of DD, into CL/A, into BB/BC - does not work. For starters - the ranks that let us use some things for missions but not others is a joke - Knox is a Gearing with 1 less quad 40 mm but it can be used for things cause it's rank 3 and Gearing is not. Let's then throw in that withing 1.4 BR, and all of ranks 1 and 2, you have DD's built during/right after WW1 in 1930's configurations - with basically no AA, vs late WW2/post war DD's with more firepower, way more AA, etc. And it doesn't get any better - 6.7 and 7.0 you have Arizona at the top of the line, in the configuration it had or close to it when it was at Pearl Harbor, while all the others around it - including 1 that was basically rebuilt immediately after the attack, are all in their 1943 or later configurations bristling with modern secondary DP batteries and tons of autocannons. Which - maybe better suited to 7.0 or higher but not the best because your talking jets - but way better than 8x .50 cals and just as many dated 5 inch AA guns. And that's just inter-tree not even talking about interacting with the messes in other tech trees. To say nothing of lets assume, for a moment - that naval will at some point like planes and tanks move in to the 80's and more modern ships - which will need to also interact with higher BR planes and their weapons systems. And lets assume that Coastal will not see much expansion, other than perhaps being where Submarines take over above the current BR range or maybe some DDE's (that could just as well be in the blue water lines or their own thing). Diving up that way also makes it easier when bring in more modern cruisers, DD's, and frigates - which when you remove carriers basically translate to BB's, CA/L, and DD's of yesteryear in the modern age in terms of the general role they fill. DD's have speed, mobility, smoke screens, and torpedoes to try and deal with Battleships. Earlier cruisers or even late in the case of some nations also have torpedoes for a heavy punch vs BB's or just spam rounds at it and try and knock guns out so they don't shoot back if you don't have torps cause you'll damage it even if you can't detonate the main magazine. Cause guess what - that was also reality, that people like to drag in to 'this game is supposed to be more realistic'.
Funny enough the eurofighter was really what I’ve been waiting for all these years, now that I have it I’m content so now I hope they finish fixing the actual game, work on new game modes and focus less on releasing new vehicles
Well I'm very intrigued to see some more second world war battleships like Bismarck, turpits, and the yamato, now as for submarines, yeah they will undoubtedly start off the submarines with like a pack that you can buy to get like early access to them, now I think for like the German submarine pack they'll probably go with like a famous U-boat, for example they would probably go with the U-47 that has the distinct Honor of sinking the British battleship Royal Oak in her home port,
The UK desperately needs another Subtree. The question is what? Canada is now out of the question as poor choices and community desires have left canadian vehicles spread out across 3 trees. Australia is still a possibility...but theyd need to rework the m1a1 aim in the US tree to be a US version and then add the australian one to the UK. India is the most obvious choice with unique vehicles that arent in the game yet. But also the most controversial. They also could address the 5 lines situation by making the tech tree a click and drag navigation as well as a scroll. Similiar to World of Warships.
i seriously want a Canadian tech tree or sub tree because it would fit in so well like why cant Canada just be put into America they have the same stuff but they would also bring new tanks and planes to the mix like the CF-100 or the F-101 and CF-101 or the famous CF-105 and not so famous CF-104 and after the hornet they can add the F-35 and with tanks such as the 6pndr ram and the sexton which carried the 25pndr GAIJIN ADDDDDD CANADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA thank you for reading
@4tbf616 yeah I’m just starting to think they’re upset at the United States maybe in particular the incident that happened in Syria were US special forces wiped out over 250 Russian Wagner group soldiers
I still dont get why gaijin is blaming people for playing on tiny screens being the reason that they cant add another line in the tech tree Theyre literally the one who made and programmed that fuking ui
Honestly can't see the F/A-18C coming into the game anymore, if they add an F18 they need to add the F/A-18E/F, they should have added the F/A-18C when the F-15C came into the game, poor F18, already outdated and it's not even in the game.
2025 will be a great year. May be the greatest year that there has ever been. Big year big things, biggy will come back from the grave and save music
Trump ahh speech
We will See in 1 year , i See more bugs , no New game Mode, and no br fixings. All of this was already was talked about, merry holidays.
@@justforfun_ger7137 I see gaijin laughing all the way to the bank 😂
@@Likeaworm as they count their money ? Well you maybe right.
I hope strategic bombers and revised game modes come in 2025
They kinda fixed strike aircraft already with the ticket bleed nerf, and they're adding some extra objectives to some maps, something like oil refineries, so that maybe will get baked in some time to get that... i wish
T-90M with top mounted cage/cammo net + M1A2 SEP V3 (with buffs to SEP V2 and V1) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
We just need Abrams with good aps to make it a little different from other abramses
@@RenanSAbreu Ukraine tree with drones, can only be Player vs soviets/ russia.
Gaijin nerfs and neuters US equipment. The F15E radar is pathetic compared to the Eurofighter. The LFP of the SEPV2 was nerfed intentionally. Time to take a break from this game.
@@PyroBlonde7777 yup, time to touch some grass sir
@@RenanSAbreu I'm almost done building my 400whp hot hatch. Definitely not playing much of this patch.
Also, GRB should be on par with ARB when it comes to rewards. Having to play like crazy to get 10k of RP when playing tanks is crazy considering people can fly in a straight line for a few minutes, bomb a base, get one kill and die and get 20k RP
yeah, equal rewards!!!
Don't forget naval
Play Moffet, shoot at things, 100-200k SL every match
I think its because once you die you cant respawn
The First Update of War Thunder in 2025 it's gotta be the arrival of the F/A-18 Hornet. Don't care is anyone is gonna throw trash at it but it's gotta be in game. it's been too many updates passed since it's not been added.
It probably hasnt been added yet because they always try to give each nation an update where they beat everything else. right now its france/germany/italy but the wheel will eventually turn and the F-18 will get added and the US will be on top again
Probably even going to be the super hornet since the f/a 18 would be kinda outdated
They typically flop between an Aircraft and vehicle update, my money is on new vehicles, possibly a Thai ground subtree? Maybe new AA?
@L300-nnPerhaps the f 18a could be at 13.0 with aim 7m and aim 9m.
@@martinwellhoefer9159not 13.0 man, atleast 13.7
I think they should add the Norwegian air sub tree to sweden. Even if they double the current Finnish air sub tree, it will still be quite small compared to other nations. Norway offers a lot of needed variation in the Swedish air tech tree, as well as filling gaps.
We dont need more copy n paste vehicles
@It’s not copy and paste if the planes have unique modifications and weapon loudouts.
I've been advocating for Sweden to get the norway and Denmark subtrees for a while. Make it a full Scandinavian tree.
Problem is we might have to wait a little cause the amount of leopard 2A7s they would get from this would probably make them the strongest top tier nation in game hands down.
Then again the leopards aren't as strong as they were a couple patches ago with the depression nerf and this new CAS meta.
@@mystic0970I get what you mean but I think its too late now
Sweden really need more airplanes at this point lmao
recalling my previous comment: "Sweden is pretty ok with air tt but at rank 5-6 is kinda empty, yes the planes there do the job but by today Gaijin standards it needs some fillers, I'm expecting a new subnation makin its way there, maybe they expand finland but they're already filling some places at lower tiers so maaaybe they're adding norway to replace finland at that rank, so it'd continue till top tier with the "supposed" norweigan F18"
Yeah, Finland is a very small classic sub tree but it stops being important once props end, it empties once you reach jets and takes a couple ranks to get decent, Norway would enter to complement the jet era and end up with a Hornet, i know everyone will get one too.
Aaaaaaand there's so little DESIGNATED IN GAME strike aircraft for a nation that ended up turning almost all it's aircraft into that role, the first one is the SK60B...
I don't mind they adding the swedish mosquito or something, even prototypes, Sweden DOESN'T have anything between 4.3-6.7, and the 4.7 is a finnish bf so yeah, they could've added more aircraft there a long time ago. (dreaming for them to add the A21B (definitive Saab 21, with overheating issues solved, bubble canopy), J23 (Swedish zero) or the J27 (the "swedish super spitfire"), but they're gonna go the easy way for sure...
My personal prediction is for Swedish top tier, that being the introduction of the JAS39E (Gripen E). I see this being a very possible next addition for Sweden because of the introduction of AESA radar and the new disadvantage of having nothing to compete with typhoons and rafales
Also italy can get it since Brazil is in italy tech tree and they had the Gripen E
@ that is very true, also Brazil doesn’t technically have possession of the aircraft at the moment, but they do have a purchase order out for about 30 of them
Without Gripen E's impressive EW suite, it will be just a better Gripen C not an entirely different aircraft.
@@paulsteaven that’s a very good point and would be a bit of work to model on the devs side, but I believe the Gripen E is on a slimmer airframe than its predecessor which could distinguish it as a separate aircraft. A good comparison would be the Strike Eagle version of the F-15 compared to its own predecessors
@@tylerkarpinsky602gripen e is larger with more powerful engine and can carry 9 air to air missile 6 on the wings and 3 on the belly. The only thing maybe holding back gripen e is the wepon system its the newest stuff of the new aim 120 c-7 and meteor and irst for ir is the common loadout they carry and nothing close to those wepons is in the game yet
Still waiting for that Hornet to sting in
I would like to get the romanian/yugoslav tree it would be a interesting new adition with some unique new vehicles
finish the hungarian air tree
Whats missing?
@L300-nn All of Hungary's WW2 aircraft.
I guess they’ll add the Thai ground TT in one to two updates. If you look at past updates where they added subtrees.
I wish they would add some kind of mechanic that you can apply real camo nets like on the new tiger premium wich could also be movable if you enable it in the options. Would be a nice addition. I also would like more customization for the tanks like, removing the side skirts, adding logs. Maybe it would also be cool to keep or place some ricochets. Would be cool imo.
yeah decals that look like gouges in the metal would be wonderful for more armored tanks especially.
Regarding SPAAs that comprise multiple vehicles, there's a couple of options where they can incorporate the functionality into a single vehicle. SLAMRAAM for example relies on an external radar unit, but the launcher vehicle itself is pretty straightforward. Similarly, the Swedish military has a tracked vehicle that tows a small launcher with IRIS-T on it. That could be an option.
Larger batteries like Patriot... yeah not convinced they'd work well in-game unless they increased map size and used them as a stationary opt-in spawn. (i.e. the batteries don't move - you can pick one and spawn as part of it). At that point, electronic warfare becomes viable for general SEAD to allow for CAS to operate. Then you see air dominance become much more important. It'd also open up the possibility of using SPHs as actual artillery instead of direct-fire vehicles. You could add spotter drones for example and relay GPS coordinates for SPHs to fire on. Hell, at maps of that size, having naval vessels in the same mixed battles becomes viable.
I guess what I'm saying is that to get battery style SPAAs you need much bigger maps, in which case you probably want to create a whole new gamemode, which the game could do with. Either simulator or realistic but with large maps, new spawn mechanics, new objective mechanics and a combination of naval, air and ground assets.
Me.....want.....YUGOSLAVIAAAAAAAA🇷🇸🇧🇦🇸🇮🇲🇰🇭🇷🇲🇪
🗣️‼️🗣️‼️🗣️‼️(even if its just us/soviet copy paste)
@mel.darion9354 actually some things are based off western equipment,like for example IAR93,we had for event,is the project started at the same as in Yugo,but their paths of design devided in later versions since yugo one goes to western equipment and romanian to east modifications
We also need a Central Europian/Pan European tree for 🇵🇱🇨🇿🇬🇷🇹🇷🇦🇹🇸🇰🇱🇹🇪🇪🇱🇻.
Sure some like Poland could go to Germany and the Baltics to the USSR but I feel a controversial tree would be funnier
Ah, yes a 1980 wolksvagen w/ a 106mm
Yeaaah, I would love to see Yugoslavia🇸🇮🇷🇸🇧🇦🇭🇷
I would really love to see a Spanish F/A-18 in the Italian Tech tree.
4:42, britain would get one through australia, as australian vehicles are already present in uk air tree
It might also go to America because of the AIM
My thought too, and the fact that canada is more french than english
@@gabrielraveleau1798 wdym, only 1 out of 13 prov+terr speaks french the rest are all english
@@agentmonde1 the aim isn’t even tech tree, plus there’s multiple aus aircraft in the uk air tree, a mini subtree if you will
@@gabrielraveleau1798 utterly nothing about Canada is French, even the Canadians don’t like the French bit
I really can't wait to see a swiss sub tree 😁😁😁
germany already has five lines in air and ground so that may not happen
@@genaraloffire ye but TT air is pathetic
@ it would be added to a line just not as a subtree, like the mirage 2000-5Ei in the chinese tree
Switzerland has enough vehicles that they could've been an independent tech tree. Most of their stuff will get left out if they're stuck as a subtree.
Before, i thought germany needed a swiss f 18 since the ef 2000 t1 is strictly air to air, and the f 18c could be a good cas plane, but it seems like we skipped to the ef 2000 t2 with brimstones, so we probably wont need a swiss sub tree, since we already have a decent top tier and cas.
For ground, I think we might see some of those newer tanks which are actually the standard chassis with entirely new gun systems, such as the Leopard/Lerclerc mix.
I would love if they add the south african sub tree like the hawk mk120 and atlass cheetah at rank 7 but iam not sure if they would do it but i would absolutely love it
They could also unnerf the Su-27's and Mig-29's flight models...
(I know they won't)
I heard that they did buff the su 27 flight models, but it seems like they just forgot about the mig 29.
@martinwellhoefer9159 they saldy haven't, I've read through the patch notes at least the ones from before and after the storm warning update, and no mention of the Su-27 or Migs.
But heck, even if they have its still ways out of what it should be.
If they do add naval missiles they’d better make them like 8.0 and NOT a separate tech tree otherwise the other ships will get left unused by most of the player base, the reason for 8.0 is so they would blur with battleships as this would be too broken
They should honestly start the naval arc adding some new *modern* ships capable of long range missile combat would be nice to see. Basically add more cool modern ships to naval
im just praying for the object 477 or 195 and the 640. I JUST LOVE THEIR DESIGN AND ALL, the 640 could go under the t80 line since it is a t80 and the 477 could be a premium or event vehicle and the 195 could go under the t90 line.
195 отец арматы, и если будет в игре то скорее всего марафоном
Me and my friends would love a premium Norwegian F-16 in the sweedish tree. Thst way we could all buy it and proudly play the cool jet together, regardless of which tech tree we're normally playing.
I actually think there is a chance the F22 gets added in the 2025 December patch. It’s crazy to think about, but at the rate we are going plus already having access to stealth technology in the F117, it’s definitely possible.
Thing about the f22 is it will never be accurate
Its either gonna be op as hell or artificially nerfed. Soon top tier will just be matches full of f35s. Every nation except russia and china will get f 35s.
I absolutely agree, there is a big chance it's coming this year.
I think it would be awesome to see the Strv 2000 and some other UDES vehicles in the game
Premium Thai sub-tree Ha-Go, based on the gate guard tank with that ass-trocious digital camo.
4:05 the same thing happened with Israel being added as a tech tree, and Italy with the Hungarian stuff
F-14D in which the RAF was going to get instead of the F-4 Phantoms. I Hope we can get one as Premium.
Wouldn’t mind the AS-90 challey 2 street fighter and a new warrior
As always, I will hope for lots of Australian content. Canadian content would also be nice.
I think before we get anywhere near gen 5 top tier we need to rework the game to make it playable with weapons like aim 120 c-d or even input he differences between a-b. Not to mention aim 9x and other foreign counter parts. Role based games would be nice to see rather than team death match all the time. I can only play sim so long… ADD HEADLIGHTS TO NIGHT BATTLES
12:20 They could make the one vehicle then when you get to where you want to be you can deploy it and the systems open up. This would mean you could put your radar off to the side so if they add in SEAD the SEAD will then hit the radar but not the command or lunch systems if they are far enough away. That is the whole purpose of network SPAA systems, one radar can get diddled but another is still feeding info
I honestly dont enjoy air much even with multiple air trees done, and i just feel like the game has been focusing on air for the last year it just is really limiting especially with how many vehicles we can get.
One thing i think they should do is reduce the amount of clouds in a match. I dont mind clouds, but sometimes it's too much especially when you have clouds below 100 meters making it very hard to multipath. Its also very hard to multipath when there are dusk matches with thunderclouds, you can barely see a thing and you may have to turn on night vision (if you even have it) to multipath without crashing.
13:03 I suppose they add all vehicles as one big train xD
it's sad that we're already looking to the next year for what to get. Shows the game is fundamentally broken and the new additions are just momentary distractions. Will we ever be satisfied enough to sit on an update and enjoy it for a few months?
I’m sure it isn’t the vehicles it’s the gamemodes. We have been playing the SAME game modes for like 10 years we really need more variation
@ it's the game modes and the maps. The maps are terrible at anything past 8.0
@@mostafamohammedahmed3404neither. It's the way live service game audiences enjoy their games. I ALWAYS look for the next thing. If nothing is on the horizon, I simply stop playing. Leaks play an important role too. Knowing roughly what to expect but having 0 details is key. That's also why I play this ridiculously grindy game - I get excited about an end goal (i.e. Rafale right now), then I massively enjoy my limited time with every vehicle up to it, knowing our time together is very brief. This makes me return to a lot of vehicles later, whilst not feeling stuck to them. There are a lot of people like me, and it's not an inherently bad thing. There's also a lot of nuance.
The only things they could add for the US air trees in modern aircraft terms would be the F-14D, F-18 and its variants, F-35 and its variants, and the F-22. It’s kinda wild that after next year, it might be it for the US tree.
Maybe they could have the YF-23 as a squadron or event vehicle
If they bring a rank 9 air I'd expect to see a massive decompression shift across the entire air TTs because of it.
I am kinda hoping that we get a BR expansion along with the Rank expansion.
With 8 being cut back to 12.0-13.3, and 13.7/14.0 being 9.
I think a lot of the BVR/Missile-truck jets should be at Rank 9.
Top tier really is a big cluster right now.
Hoping for Canada air subtree myself. No idea where they would put it, maybe in the UK?
Currently Canada is in Germany and USA so weird to put it also in UK where they have Aussie and India but then yet again Aussie is also in US
@@hanzsolo5460Canada is also in the British tree when they added the ram 2
IMO one of the first major things we're going to get next year is the Mitsubishi F-2. This patch honestly wouldve been the perfect time to do it along with the other 4.5 gens. Sure, irl its better then early rafales or eurofighters, but... in warthunder its going to lack a lot of the specialized EW characteristics that make it so great irl. Its slower then the other 4.5 gens, it has no HMD, fewer countermeasures, and only 4 fox-3s. So, unless gaijin is waiting to give it more modern missiles, or to fix its currently existing ones, its gonna be almost DOA if it arrives much later.
Sure, its radar is going to be insanely good, probably being among the best ever added into game since its the J/APG-2 (the -1 doesnt work with datalink). But... they should've just added the radar gimped like they did the other aesas.
You think Gaijin will go for the 130/140mm 80s prototypes and the still in developpment tanks like Abrams X, EMBT, Leclerc Evo and KF51 Panther... or the T14 Armata
Eventually they'll have to. But I extremely doubt that new development tanks will be in 2025
Legacy Hornets and Indigenous Defense Fighter(Fighter Ching Kuo) were definitely dead on Arrival. How about name the update "Dead on Arrival"?
I think the f18 will be held back until more hype surrounds the top gun 3 film.
I also think that india will give british air the rafale, and if not it will be made its own standalone nation.
I think theres gonna be a bit of filler with high speed interceptors in the 9.7-11.0 br range with the f102, f106 and mig 25/mig 31
Im certain subs are coming to the game but i also think they might be included in coastal rather than deep water.
I think theres gonna be a lot more decompression for both air and ground.
Some naval reworks and an air rework for a bomber mode to allow for the addition of big name cold war jet bombers: b52, tu 95, b1, b2, tu -95, tu-160 (probably not 2025 for both naval and ground reword)
I also imagine naval research costs will be dropped through the floor to make it more attractive to players.
Given Patriot or S300 range, you could just take control of an already deployed system around the airbase
I hope they will add more meaningfull secoundary objects to ARB so it won't be as boring and give graund units in GRB more means to defend themselfes from Air so its not Ground Air Battle
Having a better top teir SPAA for Italy would be great.
The Otomatic can not compete agianst SU-34 and KA-52
Sweden is pretty ok with air tt but at rank 5-6 is kinda empty, yes the planes there do the job but by today Gaijin standards it needs some fillers, I'm expecting a new subnation makin its way there, maybe they expand finland but they're already filling some places at lower tiers so maaaybe they're adding norway to replace finland at that rank, so it'd continue till top tier with the "supposed" norweigan F18
The british need a late war light crusier with any actual AA battery, A HMCS light crusier would be great considering the Aussies and kiwis already have bluewater ships and the Canadians don't. Obviously, the Thai tree needs a good fighter... late war post US refit nelson!!!! And fast battleships, please!!
Only things i hope they add this year is new game modes other then team death match and some sort of pve mode for air as for vehicles all i want is the mig 31 f14D and new eurofighter upgrades
A slider side to side for the 5th line? No no no nonsense
Just give me the Su-30SM for March patch
1) I want new game modes---Rush, Defense, Capture the Flag, 1v1 duel for air battles. More objectives with a meaningful impact, I want a map where the objective is to win either by killing all the enemy player OR destroy their aircraft carriers, or bases, or bunkers to enable ally AI to move forward to capture an airfield or FOB. I hate the fact that AI cannot bleed tickets anymore I want them to revert it, who TF said remove AI causing ticket bleed?!
2) New maps, carriers for naval maps in air battles---to land on/takeoff from, give land based an artificial island to land on cuz its not that complicated.
3) Su-37/47!
4) Restructuring the tech trees to make them more streamline and logical---placement of vehicles or do what armored warfare does a global tech tree system, proper vehicle designations---Hellcats is not a LT, it was a TD, JF-17 is a fighter not a Strike Fighter, MiG-27 are Strike Fighters not Fighters.
5) More customizations of vehicles such as, fuel slide is now 0% to 100% our choice what to take, redesign the weapon selection menu something akin to DCS or Janes series of simulators or Strike FIghters simulations.
6) Do add-on new modern stuff but also bring more old era stuff.
7) Do less events, 4 events a year and 4 BP's, Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter events, I need breaks man, too many events and grinds.
8) Make drones great again as drones right now are worthless. Put them closer to the BF.
9) RP reductions for modules!!! stock grinding is the bane of this game!!!
10) Finally the most important thing... sincerity and openness, communicate with the audience, don't be silent, don't make false promises, don't try to be greedy, and fix bugs ASAP! so many things get labelled as "not a bug! when it is! or when something is missing from the vehicle irl standard but gets ignored!
Small armoured cars at 10.0 with Tow systems or just more atgm vehicles from The 80s/90s
Yugoslavia and Greece as nations added to Italy and Dutch/Flemish voice lines!
They rly need to add 15,3 in air with current vehicles already
Su-27S/f15a/Su-33/jas39a should go 13,7
av8 with spamraams 14,0/14,3
Su-27SM, f15c, f16c, jas39c 15,0
EF, Rafale f15e 15,3
What about the f4f ice and viggen d/i? And the 12.7 jets?
Sorry tec we don't have WW2 battleships in naval yet
Scharnhorst: Am I a joke to you?
@werfault4076 that's technically not a WW2 battleship
we need bigger maps, with some new objectives mechanics. This game has so much potential
I think F18 will come with electronic warfare and anti radiation mechanics. Need massive gameplay reworks for ARB
If they add rank 9 my A-6E will be useless. And i want multicrew so bad, i mean dcs has it but thats a bit too complicated to be fun. So if they add multicrew for Top tier Air SB and maybe ground SB that would be awesome.
I think for spaa they should just make fictional vehicles. As long as theyre not crazy i dont care of some fantasy pantsir equivalent i just want something to deal with rank 8 jets
I hope we get a roadmap for 2025
I just hope for more unique early to mid tier vehicles.
Imagine Germany also getting the Canadian F/A-18 because of the Canadian Leopard premiums already in the tech tree😂
Would be great if Germany would get their east-german stuff like T-54 and so on before getting a subtree. Theres so much missing.
I think we will get next gen IR missile, better fox 3, and 4.5 for every nation, probably mid year we will get the su30sm and f18C and by the end of the year the SU 35 with TRV and the super hornet, gripen E and better rafales and EFs
Britain has potential to be a great nation for air if they get some indian aircraft and the canadian F/A 18, just folder the tornados
I never understand why it's in the British tree
@@rinzler3260 what is?
The Australian F-18 would be the best one to come to the game as it gets 4 BOL pods
If there were to be a new french subtree i feel like it would be spain, I obviously dont expect much to come from it other than a few vehicles to fill holes in the benelux subtree. That would mean that they'd get things like the eurofighter, t26 and pz III or II's (t26's and pz II's were supplied during the spanish civil war in 1936) but, I wouldn't expect it to be added in thr next major update but I feel like it would by mid 2026 or late 2025.
Edit: do correct me if i have made any name (and / or) error with vehicle's and if they're spanish or not.
A new French sub tree would probably be Algeria
@patriotic-panda you're probably not wrong that is a good shout
"been years since america got a banger for an update"
f15e: 🗿
8:22 just a quick question why do you let your engines overheat does it not have any negative impact?
It does, but not immediately. It's like the flaps or G Overload warning. Or, for ground, when your radiator gets damaged. Nothing breaks right away, but if you push it harder, you may find out when it does break.
It's the game's way of saying "Hey, you're good right now, but this is your last warning. If you keep pushing, your engine will be damaged"
How far/long can you REALLY go before any damage? That relies on your experience with the vehicle, and toeing the line to find out :) it's different for each one, each environment, and each elevation. It's just a small part of the skill ceiling
@@dalh598.1oh thats interesting I always just manually tweaked my radiators to be just below the yellow I thought putting it in yellow or orange lowers the temp needed for it to turn red
F-14d is basically just an f-14b with an irst so I doubt they’d add it
it’ll probably just be added down the line at random, won’t have a big deal made out of it.
Revised or new game modes.
Mig-25 will be added
hope they find a way to add South Korea to the US tree. And maybe North Korea to the USSR tree?
Hopefully - especially with Submarines coming, they redo the Naval tech trees so that it's DD, Cruiser, and battleship lines - with maybe some areas especially as we get more modern that overlap or additional lines if they want to differentiate certain things like light and heavy cruisers or fast battleships/battlecruisers and 'standard' battleships. Cause as someone that actually plays naval arcade - the line of DD, into CL/A, into BB/BC - does not work.
For starters - the ranks that let us use some things for missions but not others is a joke - Knox is a Gearing with 1 less quad 40 mm but it can be used for things cause it's rank 3 and Gearing is not. Let's then throw in that withing 1.4 BR, and all of ranks 1 and 2, you have DD's built during/right after WW1 in 1930's configurations - with basically no AA, vs late WW2/post war DD's with more firepower, way more AA, etc. And it doesn't get any better - 6.7 and 7.0 you have Arizona at the top of the line, in the configuration it had or close to it when it was at Pearl Harbor, while all the others around it - including 1 that was basically rebuilt immediately after the attack, are all in their 1943 or later configurations bristling with modern secondary DP batteries and tons of autocannons. Which - maybe better suited to 7.0 or higher but not the best because your talking jets - but way better than 8x .50 cals and just as many dated 5 inch AA guns. And that's just inter-tree not even talking about interacting with the messes in other tech trees. To say nothing of lets assume, for a moment - that naval will at some point like planes and tanks move in to the 80's and more modern ships - which will need to also interact with higher BR planes and their weapons systems. And lets assume that Coastal will not see much expansion, other than perhaps being where Submarines take over above the current BR range or maybe some DDE's (that could just as well be in the blue water lines or their own thing). Diving up that way also makes it easier when bring in more modern cruisers, DD's, and frigates - which when you remove carriers basically translate to BB's, CA/L, and DD's of yesteryear in the modern age in terms of the general role they fill.
DD's have speed, mobility, smoke screens, and torpedoes to try and deal with Battleships. Earlier cruisers or even late in the case of some nations also have torpedoes for a heavy punch vs BB's or just spam rounds at it and try and knock guns out so they don't shoot back if you don't have torps cause you'll damage it even if you can't detonate the main magazine. Cause guess what - that was also reality, that people like to drag in to 'this game is supposed to be more realistic'.
Funny enough the eurofighter was really what I’ve been waiting for all these years, now that I have it I’m content so now I hope they finish fixing the actual game, work on new game modes and focus less on releasing new vehicles
Romanian and yugoslavian subtrees and my soul is yours, Gaijin.
i would like to see the MIG25 in 2025
Well I'm very intrigued to see some more second world war battleships like Bismarck, turpits, and the yamato, now as for submarines, yeah they will undoubtedly start off the submarines with like a pack that you can buy to get like early access to them, now I think for like the German submarine pack they'll probably go with like a famous U-boat, for example they would probably go with the U-47 that has the distinct Honor of sinking the British battleship Royal Oak in her home port,
The UK desperately needs another Subtree.
The question is what?
Canada is now out of the question as poor choices and community desires have left canadian vehicles spread out across 3 trees.
Australia is still a possibility...but theyd need to rework the m1a1 aim in the US tree to be a US version and then add the australian one to the UK.
India is the most obvious choice with unique vehicles that arent in the game yet. But also the most controversial.
They also could address the 5 lines situation by making the tech tree a click and drag navigation as well as a scroll. Similiar to World of Warships.
india is the only with its own vehicles so ill take that any day. I am sick of every country getting copy paste vehicles.
They already put Taiwan under CCP China flag. What’s more controversial than that?
I hope we get mor WW2 Tanks and Aircraft’s
AA for Britain between 5.3 and 8.3 would be welcome!
I wish for Hungarian panther or IS2 or Italian P51
WW1 would also be nice, but we all know thats just a pipe dream lol.
Super tucano, turboprop with AAM-1 Piranhas at 9.0
F/A-18, Jas39 Gripen E and F-15EX
i seriously want a Canadian tech tree or sub tree because it would fit in so well like why cant Canada just be put into America they have the same stuff but they would also bring new tanks and planes to the mix like the CF-100 or the F-101 and CF-101 or the famous CF-105 and not so famous CF-104 and after the hornet they can add the F-35 and with tanks such as the 6pndr ram and the sexton which carried the 25pndr GAIJIN ADDDDDD CANADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I just want the slamram for usa and the delta dart and the abrams sep v3. and yes it has a spall linner... and LWS
Yeah those would be a welcome addition for the US tree
@ yeah slam rams with a 25 km range would be amazing.
Hah, as if gaijin would ever give the US anything good.
@4tbf616 yeah I’m just starting to think they’re upset at the United States maybe in particular the incident that happened in Syria were US special forces wiped out over 250 Russian Wagner group soldiers
Abrams doesnt have spall liner abrams uses bulit in armor "spall liner"
2025 é o ano do Bismarck.
I still dont get why gaijin is blaming people for playing on tiny screens being the reason that they cant add another line in the tech tree
Theyre literally the one who made and programmed that fuking ui
Einstein: I don't know with what algorithm War Thunder 2 will be played with, but War Thunder 3 will be played on sticks and stones.
Ngl id love to see swiss Tanks like the Panzer 58&68
What if they just make the lines smaller? Wouldn't that tix it?
I hope for better ground RB rewards cuz the current rewards make me feel like a beggar.
Rank X (10) should be Stealth aircraft only
I want to see czechia and Poland man
Honestly can't see the F/A-18C coming into the game anymore, if they add an F18 they need to add the F/A-18E/F, they should have added the F/A-18C when the F-15C came into the game, poor F18, already outdated and it's not even in the game.
F18s are almost guaranteed now for next update.
If aviation is going to expand they need to add better anti air defenses